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Good morning all!

My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard

by NuschlerFace on Mar 5, 2011 8:30 AM PST reply actions  

Which reports of Zito’s demise would these be? The ones from ‘08? ’09? ’10? or this year’s model?

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by Merope on Mar 5, 2011 8:31 AM PST reply actions  

Shift+(Zito Demise Freakout)

This has nothing to do with anything, but Foster the People’s “Pumped Up Kicks” should be the music they play at the Big Phone this season when Brian Wilson comes in from the bullpen to close.

"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10

by Kitspool on Mar 5, 2011 8:56 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

disagree

there is no more perfect song than maria by scooter

"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."

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by operation carrot on Mar 5, 2011 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

for wilson i mean

"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."

Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010

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by operation carrot on Mar 5, 2011 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

So did he...

Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"

Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"

Pat Burrell: "The Patural"

Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"

by slackersphere17 on Mar 5, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL GERMAN TECHNO

"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10

by Kitspool on Mar 5, 2011 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

what a horrible pos. is that a spoof song?

Back on the market.

by positiveuphemism on Mar 5, 2011 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Damn, that song is an earworm. It’s good, but now I know what I’ll be humming for the next three days.

by Grant Brisbee on Mar 5, 2011 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I’ve listened to it about 30 times this morning. Damn these catchy Peter, Bjorn and John soundalikes!

"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10

by Kitspool on Mar 5, 2011 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I hate it when that song comes in the radio. Gets stuck in my head for a few hours every time.

by nataku on Mar 5, 2011 1:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Psst!

Hey San Francisco! You don’t need that 5th starter of yours. He sucks and he’s too expensive. Why don’t you release him so someone else can have him? Please? Pretty please? It’s not fair! Why do YOU get all the pitching?! Hmph.

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by capnk on Mar 5, 2011 8:56 AM PST reply actions  

Good god

I know ST stats are meaningless and yadda yadda, but check out the OPS some of these guys are putting up:

Posey 2.067

DeRosa 1.446

Ross 1.282

Belt 1.132

Torres 1.127

Sandoval 1.062

Of the possible regulars, only Burrell and Rowand are really doing poorly. With each passing day, it looks like Derosa could make Rowand expendable.

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Mar 5, 2011 9:03 AM PST reply actions  

jesus christ, buster posey.

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

rec'd

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by Prussian Creole on Mar 5, 2011 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

im a slave to clever remarks, wrecked

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by Giant Voodoo on Mar 5, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Sustainable, every one!

But yes, if these are even slight indicators of how the season might go, we would have good reason to be encouraged.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Mar 5, 2011 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Fixed
“Of the possible regulars, only Burrell and Rowand are is really doing poorly.”

"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10

by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 5, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

he’s been doing pretty well in the outfield for being Pat-the-Bat though.

by Cap M on Mar 5, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

To clarify...

It’s not that I don’t think Rowand is doing poorly, it’s that I don’t think he has a prayer to be a starter on this team — regardless of Bochy’s comments/actions so far this spring.

"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10

by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 5, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Well Bochy's actually being pretty smart about this

He’s letting Rowand fail all over Spring so he can’t be upset when he’s inevitably benched.

by Cap M on Mar 5, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10

by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 5, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I specifically said "regular"

Not “starter”. Even when he lost his starting job, he still got starts and PAs until September.

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Mar 5, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Okay, then I’ll re-clarify:

“I don’t think Rowand is doing poorly, it’s that I don’t think he has a prayer to be a starter regular on this team — regardless of Bochy’s comments/actions so far this spring.”

"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10

by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 5, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

So he can take another nasty shit?

"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10

by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 5, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Rowand should sit on the end of the dugout bench

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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 5, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

A gift from The Beard, no doubt.

"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
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by drdata24 on Mar 5, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Lineups

3:05pm ET Giants (Bumgarner – L) @ Athletics (Anderson – L)


1) Aaron Rowand ( R) CF
2) Freddy Sanchez ( R) 2B
3) Miguel Tejada ( R) SS
4) Pat Burrell ( R) LF
5) Mark DeRosa ( R) 3B
6) Brandon Belt (L) 1B
7) Nate Schierholtz (L) RF
8) Eli Whiteside ( R) DH
9) Chris Stewart ( R) C


1) Coco Crisp (S) CF
2) Daric Barton (L) 1B
3) Mark Ellis ( R) 2B
4) Josh Willingham ( R) DH
5) Andy LaRoche ( R) 3B
6) Michael Taylor ( R) RF
7) Landon Powell (S) C
8) Michael Choice ( R) LF
9) Eric Sogard (L) SS

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."

by esseffgeez on Mar 5, 2011 9:04 AM PST reply actions  

Yay Rowand

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Mar 5, 2011 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Today we get the (mostly) low OPS lineup.

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."

by esseffgeez on Mar 5, 2011 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve been busy the past few days, so maybe this has been discussed here, but: is the only reason they keep starting Rowand in CF to showcase him in a trade?

"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10

by Kitspool on Mar 5, 2011 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I think that's the general assumption

Either that, or they’re trying to see enough of him to decide whether he’s worth a roster spot. I know ST is meaningless, but the guy really hasn’t done anything since mid-May.

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Mar 5, 2011 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s been kind of astonishing how truly bad he’s been. And what’s alarming hasn’t been that his production tanked for a few months, because that happens to just about every player at some point in his career. What’s been alarming is how visibly he’s been this bad. His approach at the plate… his ability to make contact… his timing… just about all of his hitting skills looked as sluggish, confused, or out of synch as the results want you to believe.

This I’d compare to a guy like Pablo, who you could visibly see still had every skill that contributed to his 2009 season, but was just struggling with them. Rowand sometimes just looks like his skills are gone.

So I think that may be a good point, that they’re just trying to give him enough at bats this spring to justify himself. I don’t even think he needs to have a good statistical spring, as long as he scouts like his skills are still there.

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s really od, because it’s not like he’s so old that all those skills should just desert him like that (begin declining, sure, but just disappear?). But you’re right, that’s exactly what it’s looked like. In fact, the only thing it looks like he still can do is play adequate defense at a premium position. So maybe it’s a smart thing that the Giants are keeping him in CF for now?

But I have a feeling there aren’t going to be many nibbles in terms of trade talk and the Giants are going to end up basically either releasing him or trading him away for next to nothing and eating almost all of the contract. I know that if it were up to me, I wouldn’t keep him on the roster over any of the other potential bench players to start the year.

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by Smoke on the Water on Mar 5, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

One too many blows to the head.

by wcw on Mar 5, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

nope

Just good ol fashioned crystal meth.

by Cap M on Mar 5, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Doesn’t make me wonder.

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by Natto on Mar 5, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Space Jam II: WAR of the Worlds?
Rowand sometimes just looks like his skills are gone.

Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"

Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"

Pat Burrell: "The Patural"

Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"

by slackersphere17 on Mar 5, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe if Rowand tried a batting stance that was more traditional? It couldn’t hurt.

by Turf_Toe_ on Mar 5, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

oh lord

and you know who the MJ of that movie would be, right? None other than Barry Lamar Bonds.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Mar 5, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

"His Skills Are Gone"

Ah, the old B.B. King classic. Remember when Will the Thrill had it playing on his telephone answering machine? “The Thrill is gone…”

Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.

by tobias on Mar 5, 2011 1:05 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I suspect and hope that’s the case, but who knows. Maybe they just want to give him more ABs to see if he can get it going again.

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."

by esseffgeez on Mar 5, 2011 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

They should just let him work concession and get it over with.

by Cap M on Mar 5, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

This is what Baggs had to say
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
Repeat first 5 words … repeat first 5 words… RT @therealmatolson I know it’s Spring Training but why does Rowand get ABs leading off?

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by DFARowand on Mar 5, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Eli Whiteside, Designated Hitter.

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by j14 on Mar 5, 2011 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps better than pinch runner.

by speckops on Mar 5, 2011 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Shinjo wasn’t available?

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
—Rogers Hornsby

by Lyle on Mar 5, 2011 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I think I read somewhere that Whiteside has a sore elbow.

"At the end of the day, we don’t all wear the same uniform" -- Barry Zito

by Turf_Toe_ on Mar 5, 2011 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

or maybe it was a wierd McCoven dream I had.

"At the end of the day, we don’t all wear the same uniform" -- Barry Zito

by Turf_Toe_ on Mar 5, 2011 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

And then somebody corrected my spelling and grammer and I woke up.

"At the end of the day, we don’t all wear the same uniform" -- Barry Zito

by Turf_Toe_ on Mar 5, 2011 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

*grammar

…just doing my part.

Or did get chasmed?

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Mar 5, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Fixed

Or did I get chasmed?

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by iammclovin on Mar 5, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Or did I just get chasmed?

by Turf_Toe_ on Mar 5, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Linguo is dead…

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Nobody wants to eat live linguiça.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 5, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

LOLEADOFF HITTER

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 5, 2011 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

So

Mark and Brandon are carrying today is what you’re telling me.

by Cap M on Mar 5, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s too bad MadBum can’t DH.

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."

by esseffgeez on Mar 5, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey

Let Eli get back into the groove. He’s obviously the worst non-Rowand positional player who’s going to make the opening day roster, but he fills a purpose unlike Rowand. He’s there to dive and take bullets for Buster Posey.

by Cap M on Mar 5, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Eli still has important skills, hitting hasn’t been one of them, but important skills. Compare and contrast.

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by Rolfyboy on Mar 5, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Graysides!

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Mar 5, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Controversey errupts regarding Belt's HR!!!!

Baggs says it was change up and Schulman says it was a FB

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Mar 5, 2011 9:05 AM PST reply actions  

Throw a changeup often enough and it becomes a shitty fastball?

by speckops on Mar 5, 2011 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Or, like me

If you throw too much youth baseball BP with a 40+ year old arm, your shitty FB becomes a change up

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Mar 5, 2011 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

This thread jacking made me laugh about as hard as the lurkers unite fanpost.

by speckops on Mar 5, 2011 9:20 AM PST reply actions  

That might have been the loudest I’ve ever laughed from an internet comment. It’s exactly as much attention as Pearlman deserves. That guy is molten diarrhea.

by Grant Brisbee on Mar 5, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, you should follow me on the Twitter to get these sorts of things sent to your computer.

by Grant Brisbee on Mar 5, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d sooner follow the Journal of the American Chemical Society.

Also, Twitter is silly.

by speckops on Mar 5, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I would try ostrich

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 5, 2011 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

They have ostrich burgers at the Bluebird Cafe in Hopland.

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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 5, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Gallo del Cielo . . .

follows no man.

He is the world's most annoying rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Mar 5, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Also at Redrum (formerly Murder) Burger in Davis.

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by TGOH on Mar 5, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Also at the Flaming Grill in East Sacramento (on El Camino.)

He is the world's most annoying rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Mar 5, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I would try an exceptionally wide variety of mammal meat if I could. There are, naturally, the obvious exceptions.

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey now, they send me letters all the time, asking me to join.

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by timmeh on Mar 5, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

link?

Back on the market.

by positiveuphemism on Mar 5, 2011 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

DON'T - IT'S A TRICK

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by satyricrash on Mar 5, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

IT'S A TARP

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by SFGuy on Mar 5, 2011 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw 108 comments or whatever when I checked it out last night and I was like, “Ugh, Pearlman”, but then I clicked and I was very pleasantly surprised.

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

WOW. I didn’t expect that. Thanks for the laugh

Let's bring the...

by Swager on Mar 5, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

My favorite:
a couple of summers ago i found a bottle of zima in the back of a garage refrigerator at a party. it had to be at least 10 years old. i brought it home and stashed it away with the intention of opening it on a special occasion years down the line. to celebrate a hole in one, marriage, or birth of a child. but some boozy skank i brought home a week later drank it for breakfast.

Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?

by Azmanz on Mar 5, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s quality stuff, possibly Villiphied level.. Good to see we have bench strength.

He is the world's most annoying rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Mar 5, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

That was pretty funny. Don’t need to dignify that hack with a response.

I keep holding out hope that he’ll call me one day.

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by Alex_Lewis on Mar 5, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Bruce Jenkins: “Barry Zito just exposed my sensationalist article for what it was. And to think, I thought we were friends.”

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 9:44 AM PST reply actions  

He gave up one earned run on two hits and walked one in his second spring start, two days after manager Bruce Bochy confirmed Zito remains the team’s No. 4 starter.

 —- I am a bit confused about the 4th starter / 5th starter thing? Not that it matters much.

"At the end of the day, we don’t all wear the same uniform" -- Barry Zito

by Turf_Toe_ on Mar 5, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Zito is the 4th starter as in he’ll start the 4th game. That is all.

Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?

by Azmanz on Mar 5, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I think this guy pretty much nailed the Jenkins/Zito issue.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 5, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

lulz

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Secured Opening Day & Night tickets through the second chance drawing, Major League on the TV and a pot of tea. Not a bad Saturday morning.

Adopted Giant - Carlos "Don't Call Me Wallaby" Willoughby

by j14 on Mar 5, 2011 9:47 AM PST reply actions  

testing

Did I fix it?

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by Lies and Perfidy on Mar 5, 2011 10:07 AM PST reply actions  

Sweet

Back to your regularly scheduled non-bold McC.

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by Lies and Perfidy on Mar 5, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

god damnit

it’s broken again :(

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by Lies and Perfidy on Mar 5, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I see that the larcenous

Darren Ford has stolen 4 bases so far in ST, and Burriss 2 yesterday – glad to see those skills at work on behalf of manufacturing runs.

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Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. - Yogi Berra

by SituationalLefty on Mar 5, 2011 10:10 AM PST reply actions  

I’ve never understood that term “manufacturing runs.” It assumes that only home runs are legitimate. Getting base hits and good base running is just playing baseball.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

It's just one of those baseball shorthand phrases

Like “professional hitter” to describe someone who’s patient at the plate. Literally every single position player in baseball is by definition a professional hitter, but there you go.

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by Lies and Perfidy on Mar 5, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Manufacturing runs is shorthand for doing anything that isn’t just swinging the bat and seeing what happens. Bunts and stolen bases, mostly. If you take a normal at bat, where the runners don’t run and the batter is just looking for a pitch to swing at, as the most organic version of an at bat, then anything else is something artificial that you have to manufacture. I take it to be “artificially creating a scenario that you think will result in approximately 1 run”.

Frankly, I think it’s a much less useless shorthand than professional hitter. It is a bit backward, though, because these things typically don’t help you score runs.

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

But again, i think those things you describe are simply playing baseball. Just hacking away and hoping for the best is anyone’s game.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

And while I don’t specifically disagree, my point is more that it’s less meaningless than “professional hitter” or “plays the game right”. “Manufacturing runs” seems to have a pretty concrete set of events ascribed to it, and doesn’t specifically act as some nebulous platitude.

Basically, I don’t think it’s on the same level as those other things. It’s still a troublesome sort of phrase, but at least it’s one that can be grappled with.

Sort of on this topic: I heard Martie Lurie talking to Ratto on KNBR this morning. Lurie was feeling encouraged about Spring Training because the Giants are “hitting the ball, catching the ball, and throwing the ball.” It was very astute.

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL. I see your point, I still think it’s an unnecessary term.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Professional hitter has a specific and useful meaning.

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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 5, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

In that it refers to somebody who plays major league baseball professionally, and does not pitch in the American League?

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

That is your lampoon of it, yes.

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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 5, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

HE PLAYS THE GAME THE RIGHT WAY!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 5, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

ZORAK MOST CERTAINLY DOES

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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 5, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I think you could likely ask 15 people what “professional hitter” means to them, and get 13 perfectly unique responses. Maybe I’m wrong, but I have yet to see the consensus that tells me I’m not.

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a guy with reasonable plate discipline and a plan, who can stick to his plan in a gametime at-bat. It is used to differentiate these type of hitters from hackers, who just see ball/hit ball, and that is a useful distinction.

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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 5, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

OK. So the people who described Jose Guillen as one were just mistaken?

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Mar 5, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe they were.

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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 5, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

More specifically, I think that if there is a consensus, it’s one that’s defined by negative space. Which is to say that there is a conception of a “hacker” – a guy who swings at everything – and that a “professional hitter” is everything that guy isn’t. And that’s exceptionally broad.

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you object to the thrower/pitcher dichotomy as well?

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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 5, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I’m representing myself poorly.

I don’t object to the titles universally. If I’m talking to somebody and it’s clear that they have a concrete, limited, logical, and useful definition that they ascribe to the title, I’m more than happy to run with it. You seem to personally have a fairly defined set of criteria that you use to make these classifications, and I don’t have a problem with that.

But I do think that the broad understanding of these terms is very loose and that, often, people use them for the benefit of either being vague or illogical. That’s what I object to.

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I've thought of it as scoring runs with less base hits

Walks, SBs, SACs, taking extra bases

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Mar 5, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Same here. Like small ball type stuff, using non-hit events to increase scoring chances.

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by waelwulf on Mar 5, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we’re describing the same thing, in essence. “Scoring runs by not simply swinging away.” I do think it’s a little bit more specific, in that I think people say it to refer to specific managerial attempts to mitigate the randomness of baseball events. Sometimes walks just happen. Sometimes you’re gifted a base. Those events, I think, don’t tend to get the title.

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

It is good to see

America has not outsourced our run-manufacturing jobs. We still lead the world in manufacturing runs, and all the best run-producing factories are still in this country. God bless America.

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by RDreamer on Mar 5, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

YEAH - "manufacturing"

 has a certain artisanal quality. Small numbers of runs, hand-made by base-stealing thieves, carefully aged until October. Very SF. Let’s have more of it!

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Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. - Yogi Berra

by SituationalLefty on Mar 5, 2011 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Me. I was trying to follow you on Twitter.

by speckops on Mar 5, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I divided by 0.0bar.

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

OT

Yesterday I met up with the last person ever to leave my undergrad lab. Truly a humbling experience to think about how successful my old boss was—advisor to two future Nobel Laureates and numberous professors, wrote the singular tome on inorganic chemistry and reactivity in the 60’s, even has a reagent named after him. Though they’ve basically taken his lab keys, they’re going to have to pry his office keys out of his cold dead hands.

/pours one out of JPC

by speckops on Mar 5, 2011 10:12 AM PST reply actions  

Nah, he’s like 84. So it’s time for him to move on and give up his lab space for someone younger with a bigger lab.

by speckops on Mar 5, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

not This?

Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"

Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"

Pat Burrell: "The Patural"

Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"

by slackersphere17 on Mar 5, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Puppy pics rule.

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."

by esseffgeez on Mar 5, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I call this one, "Genuine Evenings with Dr. Caboodle"

Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"

Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"

Pat Burrell: "The Patural"

Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"

by slackersphere17 on Mar 5, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: Whiteside

All they need do is look at catcher Eli Whiteside. Remember, he came down with elbow inflammation very early in camp. It was supposed to keep him out a couple of days, and he still is not throwing the distance between home plate and second base.

From Schulman

by Turf_Toe_ on Mar 5, 2011 10:12 AM PST reply actions  

I just said Whiteside has a sore elbow !!

by Turf_Toe_ on Mar 5, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Dude wears #22

he’ll be an awesome back up catcher again.

Kevin Mitchell has a black belt in keeping it real.

by kbsofaraway08 on Mar 5, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Epidemic of inflamed elbows going around in Giants clubhouse!!!!

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by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Per Baggs

Matt Cain (inflamed right elbow) played light catch today w/no problems, Dave Righetti said. Next step TBD. Gotta think Gs will be cautious.

/steps away from ledge, but leaves window open

by Reddish on Mar 5, 2011 10:19 AM PST reply actions  

BOLD!

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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 5, 2011 10:29 AM PST reply actions  

Fixed the bolding. Had to sacrifice son of ggf’s comment to do so, my apologies.

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 10:32 AM PST reply actions  

He had it coming.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on Mar 5, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

HE HAD HIS CHANCE!

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

So you're on a burning helicopter that's on its way down

And you have two parachutes and there are two passengers: Fred Lewis and Eugenio Velez.

You’re not the suicidal type, and despite their shortcomings it would just be wrong to leave them both behind. Who do you save?

by Cap M on Mar 5, 2011 10:36 AM PST reply actions  

FBAL

Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"

Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"

Pat Burrell: "The Patural"

Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"

by slackersphere17 on Mar 5, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought they could both fly.

by KrazyKrabMeat on Mar 5, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Nah, give Fred the parachute, and have FBAL wrap his legs around me. He’s pretty skinny … we’d make it.

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by bombs on Mar 5, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Even though he’s now a Dodger, Velez. FLEW is kinda a jerk.

"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey

by LincecumFTK on Mar 5, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Well

He does have that Dodger commitment to defense that I think we can all get behind.

by Cap M on Mar 5, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

both will get a WS ring

wierd

Kevin Mitchell has a black belt in keeping it real.

by kbsofaraway08 on Mar 5, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

You have to wonder

How those kind of guys feel about that sort of thing. It’s not like Barry or Bengie who at least contributed SOMETHING to the overall picture (and hell, Bengie was on both of the WS teams)

by Cap M on Mar 5, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I think he meant Zito.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Oops, my bad

I remember someone after the series saying Bonds should get a ring

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Mar 5, 2011 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

The command to “beat they ass.”

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by Natto on Mar 5, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Sacrifice isn’t the same as suicide.

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

You're right

I was just trying to make the decision feasible.

I may also be extremely self-centered. We’ll see next time I’m on a burning helicopter. Hopefully my mutant healing factor will kick in

by Cap M on Mar 5, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

This question also makes me very uncomfortable. Say you have one ticket for two to the greatest Cirque du Soleil show of all time, but the only people who are available to go with you are Fred Lewis and Eugenio Velez. You can’t get in without another person, and you’re not giving up your seat. Who do you take?

This avoids that whole “I’m fantasizing about somebody dying” problem.

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

If you are going to the circus

You have to take Zorak on the off chance that he will go running on to the stage and start stumbling about with the dancing ponies.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 5, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Fred Lewis would probably just think the circus was gay, anyway.

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I would shoot Zorak and LOLFred

Set fire to the extra chute and save myself.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 5, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I would put on BOTH parachutes, so my ascent is extra luxurious.

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Mar 5, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, I meant ascent. I plan on falling up.

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Mar 5, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

burn

Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"

Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"

Pat Burrell: "The Patural"

Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"

by slackersphere17 on Mar 5, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

HAHA!

Like landing on the softest of down pillows!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 5, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Take both parachutes with me

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by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Fly the helicopter into Dodger Stadium

If Velez lives, he gets a free ride to work.

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Mar 5, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Nobody has to die because Velez missed the flight.

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

BOOM!

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s the last time I’ll use the BOOM line.

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

From today's game notes

Upcoming probables:

3/6 – Robertson (SEA) vs Lincecum
3/7 – Ogando (TEX) vs Sanchez
3/8 – Vogelsong @ Vargas (SEA)
3/9 – Peavy (CHW) vs Zito

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."

by esseffgeez on Mar 5, 2011 10:41 AM PST reply actions  

Remember, the 7th is on TV

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by SFGuy on Mar 5, 2011 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

That . . .

would be Monday. 6:05 start time. Damn. I’ll be at trivia. On the other hand, they’ll have it on TV, but I won’t hear the announcers and some players will thus be unidentifiable. In addition, about a year ago one of the sots who runs the place tried to activate some fancy feature on the TV’s around the room (PIP, I think) but succeeded only in canceling all on-screen graphics, such as “the score” and “the inning.” Good TV’s, though.

Oh well. Everyone still managed to have a fine time there on the evening of Monday, Nov. 1, 2010.

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by gallo del cielo on Mar 5, 2011 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

POOP

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Mar 5, 2011 10:50 AM PST reply actions  

That was actually a misleading article. He changed his stance on drugs.

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

FLIP! FLOP!

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Mar 5, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

As in they're A-Ok?

It would explain the Dock Ellis like behavior except without the no-hitter.

by Cap M on Mar 5, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL VIC

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Mar 5, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

wow

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Mar 5, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I've given up on that blog. They are idiots.

I refuse to click that link.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 5, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Pretty sure that’s Rox Girl’s opus on inflamed cuticles > elbows.

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."

by esseffgeez on Mar 5, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Sad, delusional idiots

What sucks about the Rockies is that I’ve always kinda liked Todd Helton, but their fans and the rest of that team just suck on such a grandiose level.

That blog is really the culmination of all things wrong in the world that aren’t Dodger related. Or y’know a real problem.

by Cap M on Mar 5, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

/guiltily clicks link, denies having clicked link

2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 5, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

/attempts to not light Dinger on fire, just this once.

"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey

by LincecumFTK on Mar 5, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Old

"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Adopted Giant: William VanLandingham
I'm on the Twitters

by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Wait, who let the dogs out?

Dad of Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Mar 5, 2011 11:03 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

It was me. But I had to. They were pooing, and that’s a small room and a lot of dogs. It’s not sanitary.

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Is it too much to ask for one Giants spring training game to be televised?

I mean really, CSN can’t televise a Saturday game between the Giants and A’s?

Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.

by marcello on Mar 5, 2011 11:38 AM PST reply actions  

Monday’s game against Texas is televised (CSN-BA)

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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

That's good

But I’d like to sit and watch a baseball game today and my only option is Boston vs. Florida. Sweet.

Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.

by marcello on Mar 5, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Man

When will Boston stop with the exhibition games with amateur teams ;)

by Cap M on Mar 5, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, Game Six!

Dad of Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Mar 5, 2011 12:26 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

This GDT is in the best shape of its life.

by speckops on Mar 5, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

OT: Has anyone seen the documentary "Babies"?

It’s amazing. It’s also on watch it now on netflix.

Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?

by Azmanz on Mar 5, 2011 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

I'll add it to my queue

and recommend: The Good The Bad The Weird.

It’s a Korean remake of TGTB&TUgly. It is a lot of fun and definitely worth the 125 minutes.

Back on the market.

by positiveuphemism on Mar 5, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I have seen babes.

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by Natto on Mar 5, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve seen it. It’s filled with cute, and not a whole lot more.

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

And I mostly did enjoy it. The “rotten” blurbs on rottentomatoes amuse me, though.

There is almost literally no difference between watching Babies and just watching a baby.
Spoiler alert: babies are similar around the world. That’s it.

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

remember the one game where he did play by play for a few innings

Let's bring the...

by Swager on Mar 5, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. Kuiper had a bad stomach.

"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Adopted Giant: William VanLandingham
I'm on the Twitters

by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

only one?

Back on the market.

by positiveuphemism on Mar 5, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sure there have been others. I was thinking of the bad stomach day

Let's bring the...

by Swager on Mar 5, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Showcasing!

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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

A Rowand walk?

"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Adopted Giant: William VanLandingham
I'm on the Twitters

by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 12:07 PM PST reply actions  

soooo

pinchrunnertime amirite?

by Cap M on Mar 5, 2011 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

leadoff obp!

Never in doubt.

by TimLincecumIsGod on Mar 5, 2011 12:07 PM PST reply actions  

standard

Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?

by Azmanz on Mar 5, 2011 12:08 PM PST reply actions  

OT: Cuban sandwich lunch is delicious.

Finally a signature worth having:

Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.

by fierrpawz on Mar 5, 2011 12:10 PM PST reply actions  

I had leftover pork tenderloin, sauerkraut with carrots, and a pint of Sierra Nevada Glissade.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Mar 5, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

________________

My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard

by NuschlerFace on Mar 5, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

what is richard simmons doing?

oh, it’s mark cuban. But still wtf is richard simmons doing

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Mar 5, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Now keep in mind, keep in mind, I’m not 100% sure. But there is a remote, outside chance that this is slightly photoshopped.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Mar 5, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

i can tell because of the pixels

and i have seen many shops in my time

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Mar 5, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

As if there’s any doubt.
Richard Simmons in plaid?

Look out. I'm having a thought.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).

by waelwulf on Mar 5, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

The lighting on those two faces is completely different

It’s instantly obvious.

"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris

by achiappanza on Mar 6, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I know

I’m trying to love you, Mark. Let me in!

by Cap M on Mar 5, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

All-meal adaptable. As The Stomach Turns.

He is the world's most annoying rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Mar 5, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

welcome to 2003

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Mar 5, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

MILTON BRADLEY

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL Flappy

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Mar 5, 2011 12:13 PM PST reply actions  

torres would have caught that

Never in doubt.

by TimLincecumIsGod on Mar 5, 2011 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

yep

With the normal defense there’s 2 outs and a guy on 1st

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Mar 5, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

part of me is happy to see Ellis get a hit.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

TWO!

"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Adopted Giant: William VanLandingham
I'm on the Twitters

by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 12:17 PM PST reply actions  

I'm being reminded

Whenever I’m sad about certain longterm contracts, I think about Eric Chavez and smile. At least our crappy long-term guys are alive.

by Cap M on Mar 5, 2011 12:19 PM PST reply actions  

Jason Schmidt
Darren Driefort
Mike Hampton

Let's bring the...

by Swager on Mar 5, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Kruk says they might keep Belt!!!

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 12:21 PM PST reply actions  

INAGM but I don’t think it would be awful for him to get steady ad bats in the minors.

Let's bring the...

by Swager on Mar 5, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

if that happened

it would HAVE to be doom for Rowand, right? It’s hard to squeeze him into the 25 man roster even if you assume that Belt starts the year in Triple A… if Belt starts in the bigs, on the other hand, that means that Rowand would have to beat out at least two of: Fontenot, DeRosa, Ishikawa, Schierholtz, Burrell. (I’m assuming that Belt would push Burrell to the bench and that Whiteside is guaranteed a spot as backup C).

Anyway, I just can’t really see that happening. If Belt is up, then I think Rowand is definitely out.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Mar 5, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Out where, precisely?

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Mar 5, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

traded for pennies on the dollar or flat out cut

at a certain point, I think the Giants are going to have to acknowledge that it’s a sunk cost and the team is better off without him. I think/hope that point is now.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Mar 5, 2011 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

STFD

"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Adopted Giant: William VanLandingham
I'm on the Twitters

by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 12:22 PM PST reply actions  

LOL Wilson
BrianWilson38 Brian Wilson
Sorry World, ill be delving into Beverly Hills Cop marathon for the next few hours…Machine is watching Pulp Fiction on repeat. GOT EM!

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Mar 5, 2011 12:22 PM PST reply actions  

At least we got PTB cheap

and he makes Huff and Wilson happy

Let's bring the...

by Swager on Mar 5, 2011 12:25 PM PST reply actions  

exactly

and he’s paid accordingly. $1 million is not too much to pay a scary power hitter to lurk on your bench.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Mar 5, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Yay Belt!

"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Adopted Giant: William VanLandingham
I'm on the Twitters

by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

sweet swing

Jacob Dunnington

by TimLaser and MattyC on Mar 5, 2011 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

A balk?

"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Adopted Giant: William VanLandingham
I'm on the Twitters

by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 12:28 PM PST reply actions  

BELT VROOOM

Never in doubt.

by TimLincecumIsGod on Mar 5, 2011 12:28 PM PST reply actions  

One of my fellow Alabamians, incidentally.

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by TheLetter2 on Mar 5, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

HE DISCOVERED HIS ANCESTORS LAST NIGHT ON NBC

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by shanghaijim on Mar 5, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL Whiteside

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by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 12:36 PM PST reply actions  

So is anyone on the Chris Stewart bandwagon over whiteside?

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by DFARowand on Mar 5, 2011 12:38 PM PST reply actions  

I saw him play last week in Scottsdale. He looked pretty good. Tall for a catcher.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Everyone is on that bandwagon

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by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not quite on that band wagon

Rather, i’m on the “Let’s stock the Fresno Grizzlies with all the guys we can call up at need” band wagon. I want the Grizzlies to have lots and lots of talent ready to go.

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by Rolfyboy on Mar 5, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m on any bandwagon that doesn’t involve Whiteside.

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by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

PANIC

oh, wait, he threw today.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 12:38 PM PST reply actions  

Is anyone else worried about the left side of the infield when MadBum pitches? He’s really our only ground ball pitcher.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 12:46 PM PST reply actions  

What makes you think he’s a groundball pitcher? His rate was 45.1% last year.

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by rotorueter on Mar 5, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s groundball by Giants standards then.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL Choice

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by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 12:50 PM PST reply actions  

At least DeRosa made for his error

or not

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by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 12:52 PM PST reply actions  

STFD

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by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

booyah with authority?

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by rotorueter on Mar 5, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Ain't having it

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by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 12:56 PM PST reply actions  

Another clank from Tejada

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by DFARowand on Mar 5, 2011 12:56 PM PST reply actions  

I see that Buster & Stewart/Eli

will have to pick up Miggy’s garbage all year.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

STFD

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by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 12:58 PM PST reply actions  

BANGARANG, RAM-RAM

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by waelwulf on Mar 5, 2011 12:59 PM PST reply actions  

That Belt kid sucks!

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by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 1:02 PM PST reply actions  

DFA Him

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by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

what’s a peekaboo stance?

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by shanghaijim on Mar 5, 2011 1:05 PM PST reply actions  

It’s when you stand so your wiener pokes out of the hole in your boxers.

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

ooh!

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by shanghaijim on Mar 5, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

OT: Watching Universal Soldier for the first time

5 minutes in…I’m already confused

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by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 1:06 PM PST reply actions  

I’m all ears.

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

wow…good memory.

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by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember thinking that was so clever as a kid.

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugh

Miggy is everything I remember him to be from his A’s days.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 1:10 PM PST reply actions  

Well Tejada's defense looks great

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by DFARowand on Mar 5, 2011 1:10 PM PST reply actions  

So

Can Crawford play this year?

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by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 1:11 PM PST reply actions  

That’s 2 in a row, Miggy, jesooks!

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 1:11 PM PST reply actions  

tommy joseph has the face of a 40 y/o

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 1:11 PM PST reply actions  

Has some hairy arms as well.

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by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Nick Noonan is really cute

Of course, I don’t think he’ll ever make it, unfortunately.

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

"Now see here, Bochy."

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by RDreamer on Mar 5, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

He looks a lot like Jack Cust

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by TehGreekStallion on Mar 5, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks like a young Bochy?

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by rhythmismt on Mar 5, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

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by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 5, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Jesus Christ Tejada

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by DFARowand on Mar 5, 2011 1:11 PM PST reply actions  

No that’s Buster

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by shanghaijim on Mar 5, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

So you yank the pitcher because Miggy sucks?

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 1:12 PM PST reply actions  

I’ve got some very serious doubts about Tejada being able to play a full season without totally screwing over the Giants.

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 1:12 PM PST reply actions  

Never wanted him on the team. I’m going to throw that in everyone’s face later this season when everyone hates him.

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by can of corn on Mar 5, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I will support you completely in this regard.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Because everyone else loves him?

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by rotorueter on Mar 5, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I think even his biggest supporters are pretty lukewarm on him

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

meh

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by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Yup. Inspiring fellow.

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by can of corn on Mar 5, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

“Not as Bad as Some Other Very Terrible Options!”

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by oldjacket on Mar 5, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m going with “Could Have Been Worse”

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by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember a certain segment among us very adamantly not knowing what else could have been done.

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by waelwulf on Mar 5, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I still wish they’d held out for JJ Hardy

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess it depends on what the Twins were asking for

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by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

They ended up trading him for a 23 year old in A+ ball and a guy with a career 8.13 ERA and 1.04 K/BB ratio, so.

(The second guy has nice K numbers in the minors, but super high walk numbers).

I would have done any two of our top relief prospects. Waldis + Stoffel?

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t the groupthink that JJ was had so easily because the Giants took Miggy off of the SS market?

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Because the Giants no longer needed a SS, which meant the O’s had basically no leverage.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 5, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

…and they got him for nothing anyway. So I don’t see how that works.

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

If you’re arguing the Twins had no leverage, then sure, but he said the O’s didn’t.

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry

I meant Twins

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 5, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I just find it odd that the whole argument seems to be based on the notion that if we’d traded for JJ Hardy before Tejada was signed, then it would have cost an exorbitant amount and, therefore, we had to settle for a wholly mediocre option. He was traded for nothing. I’m fairly certain the Twins didn’t absolutely have to trade him. Did Miguel Tejada really make THAT big of a difference?

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s hard to say what it would have taken but I think it’s safe to say it would have taken more than what the O’s gave up. That’s all I was saying.

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

This

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by Goofus on Mar 5, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

of course. bidding drives up prices

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Once the Twins signed Nishioka

There was no reason to keep Hardy. Trading him and getting something in return instead of having him rot on the bench was the best choice. With 2 teams fighting for him, his value would have gone way up. Once the Giants dropped out, I guess the Twins were willing to give him away for nothing. I agree, seems kind of stupid.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 5, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

But Nishioka is playing second base.

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think I’d call it ‘groupthink’. It was a theory posited by a few people. Even if it would have cost more for Hardy, I probably would have gone as far as Runzler and a lesser prospect for him. At the very least, he’s a very good defensive SS, unlike Tejada.

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I started to get nervous

when that one poster who works for the Padres described him as having the range of a Weeble.

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by oldjacket on Mar 5, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

You can't assume that

If two teams had been trying to get him, the price would have gone up

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Mar 5, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

The price could have gone up exponentially from what Hardy ended up being traded for and I still think it would have been a good deal.

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

you two are talking about two different things, though.

price vs worth

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t follow. Hardy was traded for essentially nothing in baseball terms (two flawed relief prospects). I’m saying that even if he’d cost a lot more than that, it still would have been a good deal and probably better than signing Miguel Tejada, so who cares?

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree.

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by can of corn on Mar 5, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I agree with this

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 5, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't say I didn't agree.

Hardy was worth a higher cost (to us, based on our need) than he was traded for.

My point was that while Goofus was saying there would have been a higher price for Hardy due to multiple teams in on him, jponry was saying that, due to our need, he was worth the cost to us- even if it’s above market value.

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess I think the implication in “It would have cost more for Hardy” is that he wouldn’t have been worth it. Unless the Twins were demanding a major player on the ML team, Zack Wheeler or Brandon Belt, it probably would have been worth it. And I’d be surprised if they were asking for any of those.

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the Twins were trying to hustle Sabean based on his reputation for making sucker-deals. Think Boof Bonser/Liriano for AJ.

Sometimes, having a GM with a rep for overpaying doesn’t get players for their fair market value.

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

to be clear, what I’m saying is I think they were asking for a good ML-ready player, Wheeler, Belt or Neal.

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

You're talking in generalities

since we don’t know what the Twins would have demanded you really can’t say for certain.

Maybe the Giants inquired and they said “Brandon Belt and Zach Wheeler”

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by Goofus on Mar 5, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

And you’re talking from a ridiculous perspective that because there were two shortstop options available, the Twins asked for two top 100 prospects.

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was pretty obvious I was exagerrating

My point was that you can’t say they blew it by not trading for Hardy unless you know what they would have had to give up…and I’m pretty sure you don’t.

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by Goofus on Mar 5, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think I ever said I thought they blew it, just that I would have preferred to see them wait it out with him rather than settle for Tejada.

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I was hoping for Hardy too (even at a higher price).

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

But this is my point

That “higher price” might have been crazy high.

Unless we know what it is, how can we have an opinion?

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by Goofus on Mar 5, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the Twins were hoping to wedge Sabean for blue-chip prospects.

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

You can think that, but I think it’s ridiculous to assume that

Hardy + Tejada available = cost for Hardy is two top 100 prospects
only Hardy available = cost for Hardy is two flawed middle relief prospects

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I was talking more to the generality of Sabeans rep for overpaying for players.

I haven’t seen him pull off a good trade in a long time, other GMs think they can get better players off him than they would from a more cunning GM

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

“I haven’t seen him pull off a good trade in a long time”

The Giants traded for Javier Lopez last year and he helped them win the World Series. You’re argument is invalid.

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by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 5, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

We really can’t because we aren’t able to compare what the O’s gave up to what was asked of the Giants. I just wanted a shiny new SS!

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I was hoping they would trade for Bartlett.

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by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

We could have kept Edgar for considerably less than 4.5 mil.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know how good I would have felt about that.
Imagine what we’d be saying now if we’d sat with Renteria and his injuries continued to put him out of the game.

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by waelwulf on Mar 5, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

and you think Edgar could play 150 games?

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

What about 15 games?

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by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

No, I didn’t want Edgar back, I was just trying to say that we paid Miggy way too much.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

1 year deal…some premium

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by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Miggy is (at least) 36. Who would give him more than one year?

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

The Giants.

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

No, cuz the Giants only gave him one.

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by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Thankfully.

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

oh, the irony that this season people may actually start saying they WISH we’d have kept Renteria.

Could you ever have guessed those words last summer?

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

This will most certainly happen if Edgar plays consistently for the Reds.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

think he’s a backup over there

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Sign me up as a Miggy supporter

Someone has to. Besides, I actually think he’ll be just fine.

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Mar 5, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m in this camp. I don’t think Uribe/Rent were all that great last year on defense.

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by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Uribe’s D was underrated.

Everyone seems to know alot about Miggys D since he played for the A’s all those years, so it seems legitamite.

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I sincerely hope that you are right. Or that Rags can teach everyone to pitch like Matt so we don’t need an infield.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t love or hate the signing. Just glad it’s one year.

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by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

So Tejada's going to suck all year then be World Series MVP?

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by DFARowand on Mar 5, 2011 1:12 PM PST reply actions  

Renteria had shitty range

But he was very solid with the ones he got to

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 5, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

in the 10 games played for the Giants in 2010

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by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d still rather have Edgar come in a few times a year and play well than have MIggy sucking in 140 games.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Tejada played fine defensively when he got to San Diego. It’s just spring training.

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by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember him from the A’s and he’s never been that good at D. He can hit, tho.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

So you're saying

You’d want Renteria for 12 games a year and Brandon Crawford for 150?

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by Goofus on Mar 5, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

That frankly sounds better than Miggy to me right now. Perhaps his bat will still redeem him. I think that’s the best we can hope for.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Miggys bat won’t, and can’t, come close to recovering all the runs that his poor D will open the floodgates for.

Big innings usually start with critical errors.

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree, but it’s worked for MIggy his whole career. He even won an MVP with crappy D.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

remember his offense was his main attraction. once that’s gone, then he’s nearly worthless.

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

According to fangraphs he was worth $5.3 million last year.

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not a huge believer in 1 WAR=$5MM.

My point was that his offense is declining fast, and I think we could have done better than Miggy, but Sabes panicked when Uribe left and tried to replace Uribe with Miggy.

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly how I saw it.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

so hit him 8th. I’d rather have a competent SS with a great glove who can’t hit than a average (if that) SS with a bad glove.

Miggy will drive in a run every other game, maybe. How many runs will his poor D allow to score?

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Crawford’s glove is shiny, ML-ready, right?

So give him 150-200 ABs and see what he can do.

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Bocock's glove was mlb ready too

just sayin’

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by Goofus on Mar 5, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm definitely the biggest Crawford fan here.

There is no reason he should be in the MLB to start the year.

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by Azmanz on Mar 5, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I was in the JJ Hardy and/or farm dudes camp. Even so I don’t mind the Tejada signing.

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Bloods!

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by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Crepes!

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Waffles!

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by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Chocolate!

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by timmeh on Mar 5, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

/overreacts to spring training error

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by rotorueter on Mar 5, 2011 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

Two runs in.

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by waelwulf on Mar 5, 2011 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

So I want Belt to start at 1B

And move Huff to LF. Pat the Bat as starter vs lefties and a bat off the bench

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by DFARowand on Mar 5, 2011 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

If only Belt was a SS.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

christ, can you imagine an SS prospect who hit like that?

he’d be the #1 prospect in the nation

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7:15 a.m. or p.m.? What time zone?

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by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

PM PST

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It’s my dad’s birthday so I’m going to dinner at 5:30. It was supposed to be today, sigh.

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by Soulbrother16 on Mar 5, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, jeeze, bad D is not welcome.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 1:22 PM PST reply actions  

Ugh

Shitty defense all over

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by DFARowand on Mar 5, 2011 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

Miggy suckage is rubbing off on the other infielders.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not seeing Miggy’s error on gameday (at the least the one in the 5th inning) What happened?

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by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard bad defense on here on Miggy but gameday only talks about a walk and 3 hits to the OF

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by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Those "hits" were very generous calls based on what Jon was saying

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by DFARowand on Mar 5, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

weren’t errors, per se, but plays that Miggy should have made.

instead of a double play, he didn’t get anyone and crooked numbers went up on the board.

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL GIANTS

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LOL GIANTS

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by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL Rowand

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by DFARowand on Mar 5, 2011 1:31 PM PST reply actions  

What do you think

Stephen Drew would cost us, if AZ would trade him?

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 1:39 PM PST reply actions  

Wheeler?

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by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

A lot

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Belt +

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Well Towers said they weren't trading him

Honestly I don’t think we have the prospects to get it done. When Belt “graduates” the system is pretty bare.

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by DFARowand on Mar 5, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s kind of hard to say because I don’t think the Giants have the kinds of prospects right now that would fit in a deal like that one. Maybe Wheeler, Neal and another Bish prospect?

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Drew is my white whale

and I want him on the Giants, but it’s not worth Belt.

If we could guarantee a contract extension, Wheeler and Neal could be worth it to me. Problem is, like you guys stated, other than Belt, Wheeler and Neal, the system is bare. So while Wheeler&Neal could be worth it, that’s all we have left, so the price to us is very high.

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the trouble is that Wheeler & Neal is probably the best sort of package the Giants could put together and, yet, I don’t think the Dbacks would be interested.

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Buster + Belt for Drew + Upton.

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by Alex_Lewis on Mar 5, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

NO U

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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 5, 2011 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

If it has to be done, I will gladly trade myself to the DBacks for Drew + Upton.

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by Alex_Lewis on Mar 5, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Buster+Belt for Drew, Upton, Johnson.

MAYBE

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

And Dan Haren, why not?

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by Alex_Lewis on Mar 5, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

hey, that’s a middle infield and a very good, young, proven hitter.

but, alas, I’m attached to Buster and will be loving Belt soon too.

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

They may not want Belt as much since they need pitching but either way it would take a lot.

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they’d pretty happily take Belt.

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Who wouldn’t? It’s just that they probably value pitching a little more right now than a 1B/OF guy. IIRC their pitching was horrific last year.

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

they might even take a couple ML-ready relievers.

I wonder what Jed Lowrie would cost from the Red Sox. mmm…..

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

i think they’re planning on giving lowrie a lot of PT

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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought they were sticking with Scutaro?

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

this is the situation that, to me, bears watching

No guarantees that Lowrie would be great, but he could at least probably handle the position defensively and wouldn’t be terrible at the plate.

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by Smoke on the Water on Mar 5, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Weezy and Runzler? I dunno. They might want more than that.

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

…the DBacks that is.

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

hell no, that’s a massive overpay. Runzler has a high enough ceiling that he could be dealt for Drew straight up.

Runz has a few years of team control left, while Drew will be a FA in 2012? or 2013? And we all know young pitching with team control is worth good money.

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know. It seems fair to me. Maybe that’s why I’m not a GM.

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow. Um, no. I like Runzler, but Drew is a star, and Runzler is a back-bench reliever.

by wcw on Mar 5, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

This sounds like more economics mumbo jumbo. Use your heart, not your numbers! Dan Runzler has at least twelve grit levels and three stuff levels more than Stephen Poo, or whatever you call him.

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by Alex_Lewis on Mar 5, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

your right, it is economics. and good ones, at that. everyone knows young, cost-controlled pitching is worth a ton.

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep. Like Bumgarner.

by wcw on Mar 5, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

So is a young, high ceiling player who plays a valuable position.

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

How is his lefty fastball? Does it sit at 109 like Runzler’s?

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by Alex_Lewis on Mar 5, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

IMPOSSIBLE

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by Alex_Lewis on Mar 5, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Google has not helped me interpret your economics mumbo jumbo, so I’m gonna have to go ahead and have Dan strike you out.

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by Alex_Lewis on Mar 5, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Was that a slider? Was it? Was it?

by wcw on Mar 5, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

1,925 IPS IS ACCEPTABLE

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by Alex_Lewis on Mar 5, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, I’m pretty sure that this isn’t a serious conversation.

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by Alex_Lewis on Mar 5, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

by wcw on Mar 5, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

HOW DARE YOU

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by Alex_Lewis on Mar 5, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes. And he’s extremely affordable.

by speckops on Mar 5, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

the DBacks are rebuilding, and Drew probably won’t be there by the time they are good again.

Runzler is cost-controlled for a couple more years and under team control for an additional 3.

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Runzler has never really started a game. I’m not sure why they’d want him.

by speckops on Mar 5, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

That whole thing about being the greatest pitcher of all time.

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by Alex_Lewis on Mar 5, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m getting the feeling you don’t actually think Runzy is the best of all time.

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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 5, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Underestimate him at your peril.

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by Alex_Lewis on Mar 5, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

So is Alex Hinshaw. Maybe we can get Pujols for him because he might not be in St. Louis next year.

by kingofthacove on Mar 5, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

alrite, whatever.

you know, we know, that Hinshaw was never good. Runzler was.

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

He showed some promise as a decent reliever, but he still walked too many guys last year to classify his season as “good.”

by kingofthacove on Mar 5, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

im thinking of when they stretch him out to be a starter. i just think the guys got promise.

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s harder to get away with crappy control as a starter, and he’s about to turn 26, so I don’t know how much he’s going improve, if at all.

by kingofthacove on Mar 5, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s going to lose velocity when he gets stretched out. I think it’d be difficult to project how that will affect his stats, other than they’re likely to go down.

by speckops on Mar 5, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

On the other hand, no.

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by Alex_Lewis on Mar 5, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Time to go. Daughter woke up from her nap

I guess I should feed her or something.

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by calbearjd on Mar 5, 2011 1:43 PM PST reply actions  

That would be good.

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by 49er16 on Mar 5, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

go dad!

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by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

don’t inconvienience yourself feeding your daughter, though

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Well, tell her I said hi.

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Damnit

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Other teams are under no obligation to make the Giants better.

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OMG we’ve turned into championship fans.

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I thought of you the other day, watching one of the you-know-what kinescopes. Garroway was interviewing some Navy kid in the whole ‘50s uniform, and I thought, “J would jump this guy in a second.” But he had a Northern accent. I don’t know if that kills it for you or not.

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The only thing that really kills it for me is effeminacy. Although sailors aren’t high on my list of uniform fetishes.

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by shanghaijim on Mar 5, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Mounties?

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by Alex_Lewis on Mar 5, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Ew, Canada.

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by shanghaijim on Mar 5, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Da da DAAAAA!

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by Alex_Lewis on Mar 5, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah, it’s got to be whenever the Indian and Pakistani guards change at the border. Now THAT’s Monty Python.

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by shanghaijim on Mar 5, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Do those flags say “Bang!” on them?

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by jhiat00 on Mar 5, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Shut yo mouth!

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I think this guy had a high swagger ratio. Copy that on the uniforms. Will bear in mind.

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by TheLetter2 on Mar 5, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

These guys?

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by Alex_Lewis on Mar 5, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Those helmet feathers tickle

What?

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LOL they don’t need me for homosexual hijinks

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Swagger. Noted.

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by shanghaijim on Mar 5, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Terrible game by the Giants today

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Mar 5, 2011 1:56 PM PST reply actions  

thinking the same thing, and maybe it’s just as well at this point in ST. Shame them and get them working harder on defense.

"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker

by Rolfyboy on Mar 5, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

it happens

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Besides, the As have great pitching. Sometimes the D suffers when guys are getting nothing going at the plate. Frustration.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

THEIR PITCHING ISN’T GOOD, OUR HITTING IS SLUMPING!

"I only have one flash of greatness a day, and I already used it at 12:30am- Me"

I'M OFFICIALLY GOING TO BE A FATHER ON SEPTEMBER 17, 2011

by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL US

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by shanghaijim on Mar 5, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

Braves
Phillies
Rangers

"I only have one flash of greatness a day, and I already used it at 12:30am- Me"

I'M OFFICIALLY GOING TO BE A FATHER ON SEPTEMBER 17, 2011

by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Even Culberson? I saw him play last week and he was awesome with the glove that day. (And he’s CUTE!)

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 2:00 PM PST reply actions  

Culberson’s rep in the minors defensively has generally been bad

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess he was having a good day, then.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Welp with this game as it is

I’ve decided to watch the 25th Anniversary Les Miz concert before its rental period ends.

LOL Nick Jonas.

And I’ve decided “Stars” will be sung by Josh Hamilton.

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by shanghaijim on Mar 5, 2011 2:04 PM PST reply actions  

I listened to a few songs on yt

and he was so bad. No range

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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

no range
bad accent
can’t act

Oh well, he pulled in the box office, and that’s all that matters.

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by shanghaijim on Mar 5, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I understand PBS is running that concert, or one like it, on Sunday evening. I plan to check it out.

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by TheLetter2 on Mar 5, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

The Miguel Tejada of overwrought musicals.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Mar 5, 2011 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

les mis is not overwrought

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

that's right!

What’s a word for over-overwrought?

by wcw on Mar 5, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Wroughten to the core?

"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10

by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 5, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

awesome

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

My ticket partner is trying to sort of tickets, unfortunately his main partner has been ill. So now he’s juggling the schedule to figure out what goes where. My first game is the Wednesday exhibition. It looks like I got all but one game that I ask for, good stuff.

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by timmeh on Mar 5, 2011 2:13 PM PST reply actions  

Kruk’s singing.

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by Natto on Mar 5, 2011 2:13 PM PST reply actions  

Complimentary pints of tequila are standard for spring training.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Mar 5, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Coco Crisp is driving them home

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 5, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

: /

"I only have one flash of greatness a day, and I already used it at 12:30am- Me"

I'M OFFICIALLY GOING TO BE A FATHER ON SEPTEMBER 17, 2011

by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

When the game goes south, the announcers seem to want to talk about food.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Spring Training games are funny.

I have been listening to the whole game.
I have no idea what inning it is.
I have no idea what the score is.
I have no idea who has been in the game but Madbum.
I do not remember one story from JMiller or Krukow.
What time is the game tomorrow?

Finally a signature worth having:

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by fierrpawz on Mar 5, 2011 2:15 PM PST reply actions  

never.

"I only have one flash of greatness a day, and I already used it at 12:30am- Me"

I'M OFFICIALLY GOING TO BE A FATHER ON SEPTEMBER 17, 2011

by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

YOURE NOT EVEN ENJOYING THIS ONE

"I only have one flash of greatness a day, and I already used it at 12:30am- Me"

I'M OFFICIALLY GOING TO BE A FATHER ON SEPTEMBER 17, 2011

by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

BBrandon?

Well this game sucks.

"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller

t's Posey time!!

My Adopted Giant: Heath Hembree

by sanfrankid on Mar 5, 2011 2:17 PM PST reply actions  

Come on Neal, be Real!

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 2:18 PM PST reply actions  

Aw Thomas

When keepin it real goes wrong.

"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller

t's Posey time!!

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by sanfrankid on Mar 5, 2011 2:21 PM PST reply actions  

To be fair, Ziggy is good.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

KNBR commercials are already annoying me.

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by Natto on Mar 5, 2011 2:22 PM PST reply actions  

This is why God made the mute button.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

There is no mute button on my radio, only a volume dial.

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by Natto on Mar 5, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

bummer. I can only get KNBR on the interwebs.

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

You know you want Rowand back Philly!
hankschulman Henry Schulman
Nice day for the Phils. D. Brown broken hamate. C. Utley cortisone shot in knee. C. Ruiz taken up in the Rapture. (One of those is untrue)

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Mar 5, 2011 2:24 PM PST reply actions  

LOL PHOOLIES

I bet Werth is laughing it up.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 5, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think anyone is fully realizing what losing Werth is gonna do to that offense. He was the anchor.

"I only have one flash of greatness a day, and I already used it at 12:30am- Me"

I'M OFFICIALLY GOING TO BE A FATHER ON SEPTEMBER 17, 2011

by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

CAPTAIN …. CAAAAAAAAAAAVEMAAAAAAAAN!!!!!

Dad of Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Mar 5, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

But who cares, OMG PITCHING! eyeroll

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

those "greatest rotation ever" articles are redic. they haven't even played ONE game yet.

Cliff Lee will be a bust, or at least nowhere as good as they are paying him to be.

They will owe Howard and Lee a combined $50+MM/yr in their age 37 seasons, lol.

"I only have one flash of greatness a day, and I already used it at 12:30am- Me"

I'M OFFICIALLY GOING TO BE A FATHER ON SEPTEMBER 17, 2011

by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Cliff Lee will be a bust, or at least nowhere as good as they are paying him to be.

That’s a bold prediction.

by speckops on Mar 5, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

not really that bold, considering I am talking about over the course of the contract, not just 2012.

"I only have one flash of greatness a day, and I already used it at 12:30am- Me"

I'M OFFICIALLY GOING TO BE A FATHER ON SEPTEMBER 17, 2011

by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re a firefighter, so I’m assuming that you have your own ladder to help yourself. :p

by speckops on Mar 5, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

damn it

i left my ladder up there, but it’s nice down here. theres a jacuzzi and girls in bikinis.

and cake

"I only have one flash of greatness a day, and I already used it at 12:30am- Me"

I'M OFFICIALLY GOING TO BE A FATHER ON SEPTEMBER 17, 2011

by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

not many (if any) pitchers in history have been worth $25+MM/yr at age 37 season

"I only have one flash of greatness a day, and I already used it at 12:30am- Me"

I'M OFFICIALLY GOING TO BE A FATHER ON SEPTEMBER 17, 2011

by giant4life83 on Mar 5, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I knew I should have laid a sizable bet on the O/U line of 97 wins for the phighting.

by speckops on Mar 5, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh, Jon, “gaijin” doesn’t mean “helper.” It means… foreigner.

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by Natto on Mar 5, 2011 2:25 PM PST reply actions  

He was talking about Marc Kroon’s time in Japan, and how they referred to foreigners as “gaijin.” He said that he believed that “gaijin” meant “helper.”

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by Natto on Mar 5, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

he was just talking about his yard helper
The word is composed of two kanji: gai, meaning “outside”; and jin, meaning “person”. Thus, the word literally means “outside person”.

by wcw on Mar 5, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

What’s the word for an indoor person? I’m an indoor person.

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by shanghaijim on Mar 5, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

“Neko”

Look out. I'm having a thought.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).

by waelwulf on Mar 5, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

As in Case? And the soap?

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by shanghaijim on Mar 5, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

And those terrible candy wafers?

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by TheLetter2 on Mar 5, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Neko case is definitely better off in doors.

Also, I thought the soap was the wafers.

Look out. I'm having a thought.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).

by waelwulf on Mar 5, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

“in doors” is two words now.
Mark it on your calendar;
This is when it happened.

Look out. I'm having a thought.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).

by waelwulf on Mar 5, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Neko de Drive

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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 5, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL Jax

"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller

t's Posey time!!

My Adopted Giant: Heath Hembree

by sanfrankid on Mar 5, 2011 2:36 PM PST reply actions  

Yep, Jax is ready.

Adopted Giant - Carlos "Don't Call Me Wallaby" Willoughby

by j14 on Mar 5, 2011 2:36 PM PST reply actions  

Dammit. A’s fans are going to be lording this all over us for the next twenty years.

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by shanghaijim on Mar 5, 2011 2:36 PM PST reply actions  

I might as well not even have kids.
It would just be too cruel.

Look out. I'm having a thought.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).

by waelwulf on Mar 5, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

And while they’re not looking, the team up and moves to Boise.

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by TheLetter2 on Mar 5, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

IDAHO
You’d a ho?
I did!

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by shanghaijim on Mar 5, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I DA PIMP

2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 5, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

But, are you a ho protector?

by wcw on Mar 5, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I encourage their use.

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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 5, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Helps you, um, nip disease vectors in the, um, bud.

by wcw on Mar 5, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL Nick Jonas singing “Empty Chairs at Empty Tables”. PROJECT, boy. Get that voice out of your nose.

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by shanghaijim on Mar 5, 2011 2:37 PM PST reply actions  

"The Star-Spangled Banner" was adopted as the anthem only 80 years ago?

What the hell did America sing before then?

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by shanghaijim on Mar 5, 2011 2:46 PM PST reply actions  

God Save the King/Queen?

by speckops on Mar 5, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Take Me Out to the Ballgame.

He is the world's most annoying rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Mar 5, 2011 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Put the lime in them, drink it all up.

by wcw on Mar 5, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

That song is an earworm.

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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 5, 2011 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

If you read my blog, you’d have known that.

As to other your other point, per Wikipedia:

Before 1931, other songs served as the hymns of American officialdom. “Hail, Columbia” served this purpose at official functions for most of the 19th century. “My Country, ’Tis of Thee”, whose melody was derived from the British national anthem,3 also served as a de facto anthem before the adoption of “The Star-Spangled Banner.”4 Following the War of 1812 and subsequent American wars, other songs would emerge to compete for popularity at public events, among them “The Star-Spangled Banner.”

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by TheLetter2 on Mar 5, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

This Land Is Your Land works for me.

by wcw on Mar 5, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I got this factoid from your blog but there was no explanation and it’s not like I can ever trust Wikipedia! ;)

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by shanghaijim on Mar 5, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, so I get the blame. Great. :^)

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by TheLetter2 on Mar 5, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

LISTEN TO MY SHOW NERBS

by speckops on Mar 5, 2011 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I'M MICHELE NORRIS, LOSERS

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by TheLetter2 on Mar 5, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of whom, Brian McCann is in the best shape of his life.

by wcw on Mar 5, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

McCann is leaner, more muscular, and generally fitter…

One of the things I like most about McCann is his sturdiness. Sounds like what he’s done is tone up a bit, which sounds like a smart move for him professionally.

That said, I’ll be in my bunk.

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by TheLetter2 on Mar 5, 2011 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh well, back to work. I have to book a trip to Ontario for April, I want nice weather please.

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by timmeh on Mar 5, 2011 2:53 PM PST reply actions  

southern California is lovely that time of year. You should be in good shape.

by son of ggf on Mar 5, 2011 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Guess who has a brand new Celebi, bitches.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 3:37 PM PST reply actions  

That would be me.

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

And I preordered Pokemon White!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m going to probably get Black for or after my birthday this month. It looks like it’s possible to get a growlithe in B/W through the dream world, so that’s also cool.

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m still not sure how the Dream World thing works but I’m about ready for a new playthrough through a Pokemon game. And I kind of like that it’s all new Pokemon this time around for the first playthrough (no more goddamn Geodudes!)

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Mar 5, 2011 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm thinking of buying the new 3DS

and get one of the pokemons after that. I don’t have a dsi.

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by jctGamer on Mar 5, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I was getting sick and tired of those fucking Zubats. The forced use of all new Pokes this time around is definitely a draw. After I do get it, I might end up playing it all the way through before even beating SS.

I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?

by howtheyscored on Mar 5, 2011 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Got it last week. Ha. And also have Black pre-ordered for the kid, using Amazon Prime for superfast delivery.

And also, you can get a Victini starting next Friday via Nintendo WFC.

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I tweet (more often than I blarg).

by can of corn on Mar 5, 2011 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, that ST sucked. Here I’ve been complaining about the games not being on tv. I think I’m glad that one wasn’t!

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by Merope on Mar 5, 2011 5:16 PM PST reply actions  

Yes

New Archer on Hulu

Carter Jurica!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry

by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 5, 2011 5:21 PM PST reply actions  

Bum! :'(

But I wish I could wreck this more than once.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian

by Ceora on Mar 5, 2011 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

If you turn the telespcope around . . .

even Benjie would look small.

/train rec’

He is the world's most annoying rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Mar 5, 2011 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I unrec’d just so I could rec it again. Amazing.

"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller

t's Posey time!!

My Adopted Giant: Heath Hembree

by sanfrankid on Mar 5, 2011 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Can we sick him on Rowand?

by Tortured on Mar 5, 2011 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I can only believe that Rowand will loom to ruin us just as the threat appears to be subdued.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Mar 6, 2011 1:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I . . .

Yes. Yes indeed.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Mar 6, 2011 1:15 AM PST up reply actions  

i think zeets is gonna have a good year

cause he is getting the “i don’t give a fuck” mentality

it’s gonna hit or miss this year

ima bet on hit

Trade Sabean/jk...Overthrow the Ydorks...
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GO HOME LACOB

by Regulus on Mar 6, 2011 11:05 AM PST reply actions  

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