Stat lovers who hate stats
by Grant Brisbee on Mar 17, 2011 9:39 AM PDT
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PrintIt won't be long before we get the first wave of nonsense from stat-crazed dunces claiming there's nothing to be learned from a batting average, won-loss record or RBI total. Listen, just go back to bed, OK? Strip down to those fourth-day undies, head downstairs (to "your mother's basement and your mother's computer," as Chipper Jones so aptly describes it) and churn out some more crap. For more than a century, .220 meant something. So did .278, .301, .350, an 18-4 record, or 118 RBIs. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of nonathletes are trying to reinvent the game?
Well, that's a fun passage. It's a shame that a week after defending Bruce Jenkins as a good writer, albeit one with whom I frequently disagree, he falls back on the lazy, lazy, lazy "stat nerds in the basement!" rhetoric. I look forward to his next column, in which he absolutely skewers police officers for liking donuts. Don't get him started on airplane peanuts.
But that passage doesn't need to be dissected here. If you're reading this, you probably have a good idea that Matt Cain isn't a below-average pitcher, even if that's what his won-loss record would indicate. You know that Aubrey Huff last year was a much better hitter than Bengie Molina was in 2009, even if their respective RBI totals were similar. You know that even though the 2008 Giants had a batting average that was better than the league average, that team was a completely miserable offensive team that still makes you twitch in your sleep. All of the stats Jenkins mentioned are flawed.
Well, maybe the passage deserves to be dissected a little bit. My favorite part was when the guy who called out "stat-crazed dunces" ended his rant by holding hands with his favorite stats. Oh, oh, or when he thinks that stats created by nonathletes are automatically worthless, as if Henry Chadwick pitched 3000 innings for the Brooklyn Superbas back in the day, which validates all the statistics Jenkins loves. That was awesome.
The best way to mock this, though, would be a good dose of flattery-by-imitation. Here's the template:
For (some extended period of time), (this outdated stuff) meant something. So did (other outdated stuff). Now it all means nothing because a bunch of (pejorative) are trying to reinvent the (subject)?
Such as...
For several centuries, boiling lead meant something. So did trebuchets, mangonels, and battering rams. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of gunpowder fetishists are trying to reinvent the rules of modern combat?
See? Fun. Have at it.
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Did I do it right?
For eons now, throwing our feces out of our windows and into the street meant something. So did walking through those feces on our way to the apothecary. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of civil engineers are trying to reinvent the sewage system?
Gigante. Campeón. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Mar 17, 2011 9:45 AM PDT reply actions 6 recs
I take it that you’ve read Neal Stephenson’s Baroque Cycle trilogy? That’s his description of Paris in the 18th(?) century.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
—Rogers Hornsby
“Paris was founded on the principle that there was absolutely nothing you could not achieve if you crowded a whole bunch of peasants together on the best, richest land on Earth and then never stopped raping their brains out for a thousand years.”
by Lies and Perfidy on Mar 17, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
For eons, sex meant something. So did home town discounts. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of Pat Burrell’s are trying to reinvent the everything?
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Mar 17, 2011 9:46 AM PDT reply actions 5 recs
For centuries without end, horse and buggies meant something. So did sedan chairs. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of wheel-loving gasoline heads are trying to reinvent transportation?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 9:48 AM PDT reply actions
For months, blogging meant something. So did message boards and blog comments. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of twits and facebookers are trying to reinvent the internet?
He uses statistics as a drunken man uses a lamp-post - for support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
For decades, semaphore code meant something. So did smoke signals. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of point and clickers are trying to reinvent instant messaging?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Careful, your nerdery is showing!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I mean, this needs more crotch-scratching and whatnot. Probably beer cans, too.
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by TheLetter2 on Mar 17, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Atta babe. Gamer. That post had 76% more OBP than your last post!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That means on-base percentage! It’s a measure of how often a batter reaches base for any reason other than a fielding error, fielder’s choice, dropped/uncaught third strike, fielder’s obstruction or catcher’s interference!
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by TheLetter2 on Mar 17, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
STOP REINVENTING THE GAME AND CHANGE YOUR UNDERWEAR
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I missed the defending Jenkins bit. I’ll just go ahead and ignore that it happened. He’s exceedingly hacktastic.
by Rorsavelt on Mar 17, 2011 9:50 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
As a serial Jenkins defender myself, I felt somewhat betrayed by last Saturday’s column, which I read (as I always do) on Saturday morning. I stated that disappointment here (I think just before the GDT that day) and quoted a few of the lines from above. Grant is absolutely right that the prolonged tirade is graceless, humorless, and clueless.
As a longtime reader, I would have thought it beneath him, but it appears that I am wrong. I’m afraid that I put this all into a carefully measured e-mail to Mr. Jenkins on Sunday. I figured that it might be more palatable coming from a longtime reader/defender. But he has not responded.
Though we joke about it, and though some McC’s are young enough to actually live at home, the truth of the matter is that a huge majority of us are productive working professional, and many of us are, um, advanced in years. I know this, and Mr. Jenkins now knows it too, if he took the trouble to read my e-mail.
Regarding baseball beat guys/gals at newspapers, I wrote several months ago that even though a daily column or game day coverage shouldn’t be soaked with saber data or highly weighted derivatives, a professional sports scribe is obliged to have a working knowledge of that stuff. It’s not just a fad.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm glad you wrote to him
And if they’re not obliged to have a working knowledge of sabermetrics, they’re obliged to at least not mock them, ffs.
Still backing Notgardo, wheresoever he may wander. (Don't forget to wriiiite!)
I’m supposed to be one of those newfangled bloggers, and all I really use are BA/OBP/SLG with an idea of park factor, as well as ERA+ and FIP for pitchers. That’s pretty much it, and it’s just not that hard.
by Grant Brisbee on Mar 17, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s pretty much it, and it’s just not that hard.
TWSS!
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
Let me also point out that the save was created by a non-athlete,
so in Jenkins’ “mind”, it shouldn’t be considered as relevant to the game itself. Perhaps Bruce is resentful that no stat remains for him to create and this is all just sour grapes on his part. As one of us knew him slightly (which is the only way you’d want to know him), that’s a credible possibility.
by mrs. owlcroft on Mar 17, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally
And that’s why Baggerly is so well liked and respected.
by Rorsavelt on Mar 17, 2011 2:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Not enough to spell his name correctly, however. :)
Your point stands, though — I was pretty disappointed in Bagg’s coverage of the Giants in the early part of 2010, but I thought he turned it on down the stretch (much like the team coincidentally — or perhaps not). And this year, he’s provided the best coverage of a Giants spring training I’ve seen in my ~25 years as a fan — what with his blog posts, columns, tweets, and videos. And even on his worst day, Baggs kicks Jenkins’s ass up and down the page.
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 18, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I must confess that I especially like Shulman.
Schulman.
Sheer hose. I especially like those too.
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by gallo del cielo on Mar 18, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s purely, purely speculative on my part, but I feel like he’s been lashing out in his columns since the Zito thing. Like, he was really professionally embarrassed, so now he’s licking his wounds – in an admittedly professionally embarrassing way – by putting on his venerable fan jacket.
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 17, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you see what he said about the Moneyball movie? lulz.
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 17, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
He said, basically, that while the book was brilliantly written, there is nothing more boring than the A’s search for no-speed, no-defense, no-average players who could really work a 3-1 count on their way to achieving nothing in their hopeless careers, and that the movie would need explosions to be interesting.
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 17, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
(A lot of that, sadly, is word for word)
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 17, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
There will be an explosion if Jason Giambi’s on-base-percentage drops below .350.
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 17, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
BO-RING
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
If by explosion you mean “montage of Scott Hatteberg learning to play 1B with soaring music playing”, then yes.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
For 5 minutes, Bruce Jenkins’ opinion meant something. So did Joe Morgan’s. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of game-cheaters are trying to reinvent the strawhat?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
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by jhiat00 on Mar 17, 2011 9:52 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Seriously though
It isn’t hard to understand why he decided to write this tripe. This is clearly a defensive reaction to being so painfully transparent in his attempt to stir up drama with the Zito story he completely fabricated.
I’ve never considered him a “good writer”. Anyone who knows so little about a subject after decades of writing about it can’t be described that way.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 9:53 AM PDT reply actions
As we noticed last year
having columnists diverted from other beats to write about the Giants regularly may not result in better coverage of the team.
I wish the Bay Guardian would start covering the team. Or KRON.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I see you said this before me. Even though my comment is higher in the thread, let it be known that Lars got to it first.
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 17, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I REFUSE TO KNOW THAT
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
You know my ex?
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by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
For years, Weimar currency meant something. So did Confederate bonds. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of asshat speculators are trying to reinvent central banking?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
Hey there Rainbow Johnny Reb!
Dad of Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Mar 17, 2011 11:34 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
For many hours, Grant meant something. So did Mr. Bisbee. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of jponrys are trying to reinvent mccoveychronicles?
Adopted Father of Marc Kroon. He better make the roster.
by bruddah on Mar 17, 2011 9:56 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
I was gonna take a stab at this
But the article makes me too angry and sad. I wrote essays in middle school about books I didn’t read that provided better arguments than this. Why don’t I write for the Chronicle?
For decades, journalistic integrity meant something. So did openmindednes. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of foward-thinking lovers of the game are trying to understand it better?
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
by bgunn on Mar 17, 2011 10:02 AM PDT reply actions 12 recs
I like this one.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
/golf clap
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." - Grant
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Mar 17, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
This is fun.
For more moons than I can remember, quality newsgathering meant something. So did comprehensive coverage of international issues. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of talking hairpieces are trying to reinvent broadcast journalism?
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by TheLetter2 on Mar 17, 2011 10:06 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
take that MSM!
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
and on a personal note
getting all of your available news from the big news channels during a natural disaster with a family member in the general vicinity is a recipe for stress. I’m so glad we were able to get some internet access.
they trade in panic.
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
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oh
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
That’s understandable, “cruise ship” and “tsunami” could not be a good combination especially if they happened to be inshore.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
actually, something I learned is that as long as you are out to sea, a ship is a very safe place to be in a tsunami.
unlike with your standard waves, it is a swelling of the entire ocean, so much like the tide you don’t really notice.
We did have some 70 mph winds. That was a little interesting, but they spin to face the wind and it really flattens out. Pretty amazing, really.
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Right, as long as you are out to sea.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I was this close to adding that to my comment. Thanks for picking it up.
by chilibean_3 on Mar 17, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I think someone holding a laptop must have sat on Bruce's straw hat in Scottsdale.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
This is my favorite part of Jenkin's article
Now it all means nothing because a bunch of nonathletes are trying to reinvent the game?
Agreed since Jenkins laced them up, put on the pads, and put it all on the field.
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In case you were wondering
Here is Jenkins’ sports background
Bruce Jenkins has been a member of the Chronicle sports staff since 1973 and a columnist since 1989. He’s a graduate of Santa Monica High School and UC Berkeley, class of 1970 with a degree in Journalistic Studies. Over the years he has covered 21 World Series, 17 Wimbledons, 22 U.S. Open tennis tournaments and many other big events, including World Cup soccer, the NBA Finals and each of the four major golf tournaments. He has won national awards for baseball, basketball, tennis and football writing.
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
You know, that looks pretty unfortunate next to your avatar there. Just sayin’.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
There are always outliers and aberrations.
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Stop trying to reinvent the student body with your crazy statistical analysis.
by Rorsavelt on Mar 17, 2011 2:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
For every year in human history up until the point where I started feeling old and confused and underappreciated, all the ways that we did some things meant something. So did all the ways that we did all the other things. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of people who are younger than me are trying to reinvent the ways we do things?
Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.
by D4P on Mar 17, 2011 10:08 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
heh
it’s even funnier when you realize just how old some of these young stats guys are.
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Exactly. See my post above, made before I saw this.
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by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
amen, brutha.
this ‘stats revolution’ is fully 30 years old. Sheesh, more even.
moral panics over new technology are usually ridiculous, but even more so when it isn’t even new technology any more.
How freaked out were people when Henry Chadwick was doing his thing? “We’ve been doing just fine without this new fangled ‘batting average’. Chadwick should get out of his mom’s basement and watch a game.”
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Older. You think Branch Rickey cared about batting average?
He uses statistics as a drunken man uses a lamp-post - for support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
yeah. I was really trying to confine it to those who were really outside baseball, since that’s where most of the animosity comes into play.
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
This actually sums it up very nicely
Sort of depressingly too.
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NOBODY CARES ABOU STATS
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
WAR, UZR, wOBA, i dont even
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
For centuries, snake oil meant something. So did trepanning, the four humors, and leeches. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of lab-coated microscope-squinters are trying to reinvent medicine?
by Evan on Mar 17, 2011 10:10 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
OK, now my sides are starting to hurt.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
are you a trained barber?
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I think these leeches are actually flesh-eating bacteria, and they seem to be headed for my ribs. Did you get them from Stan Conte?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Quart low on phlegm.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
u right, wait, i dont even know
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
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I would nod in agreement if my doctor hadn't just told me that nodding in agreement is a sign of devil possession.
by Every6thDay on Mar 17, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
To the witch dunkin’ pond!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
How do YOU know? To the witch burnin’ pyre with you!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
New theory is that since humors just need to be balanced, it doesn’t matter if you take them out or put them in. That’s why they transfuse all that blood these days. People aren’t sanguine enough!
I really, really hope I’m never diagnosed as having too little phlegm. I don’t want that transfusion.
He uses statistics as a drunken man uses a lamp-post - for support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
Breaking: Cupping not nearly as dirty as expected.
Seriously, those marks are temporary right?
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
They are like bruises left from the blood that gets sucked to the surface by the cups. I remember my wife remarking that I looked as though I had fought off a giant squid, but they fade naturally. Being that this is Chinese medicine, it’s hardly new though.
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Trepanation reference FTMFW.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Adoptive dad of Andrew Romo. Hope he's half the beard-grower his big brother is.
by EliminateMe on Mar 17, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
This officially made me think that Bruce Jenkins is an asshole.
I was okay with the guy even if I disagreed with him on some things.
But seriously Jenkins; fuck you.
Try to learn something dipshit.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Mar 17, 2011 10:11 AM PDT reply actions
send this to kentremendous.
Adopted Father of Marc Kroon. He better make the roster.
modern family, kthxbye
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I wasn’t trying to get into a which show is better (even though P&R is better).
by Every6thDay on Mar 17, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
YOU SHUT UP!
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
I find I have enough time for 2 half hour comedies each week.
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
nope, i am not in this line at all
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
BIG TALK!!!!
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
fine, you caught me
I have time for at least 6 half hour comedies a week. Oh man, I think it is seven now.
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Maybe this is why my lot in life has not significantly improved lately. I watch way too much TV.
My typical Thursday: Community, Big Bang Theory (DVR), The Office (more an obligation now), P&R, 30 Rock, Modern Family (DVR) & Cougartown (DVR).
by Every6thDay on Mar 17, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Modern Family isn’t that great. It’s well-done, but it’s incredibly formulaic. As a viewer one can predict in advance what will happen because the writers always shoot for the most awkward situation possible.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
hot
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
KenTremendous would probably prefer producing his television show than critiquing bad sports writing is all.
by Every6thDay on Mar 17, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
NASA's Messenger spacecraft
Will become the first to orbit Mercury. The orbital insertion maneuver will begin at about 6pm this evening.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 10:16 AM PDT reply actions
I’m excited. I can’t wait to see the pictures and other data.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
I am looking forward to this as well
And I think a lot of people take putting something in orbit around a planet for granted now. But doing so around a planet so close to the Sun is seriously pretty tricky.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s the issue then isn’t it, the fact that they’re going around a planet like Mercury, has this ever been done before?
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
This will be the first.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I can’t get a reading one way, up or down!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
"orbital insertion maneuver"?
does Zap Brannigan know about this?
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"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
No, but Zaphod Beeblebrox does.
Finally a signature worth having:
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The Cassini shots of Saturn were out of this world.
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 17, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
They still are!
Some of the best photos ever taken of anything.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed!
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 17, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Greetings, computer.
Yeah, I was just out shooting yesterday.
Heading out later today, too.
Please stop by my Flickr page if you’re into nature photography or infrared landscapes. I’ve been focused on bobcats for a few years now.
Thanks for asking, Xan.
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 17, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks, bruddah.
Mostly, in Marin. Tomales Point in Point Reyes is incredibly reliable for bobcats. Supposedly it’s also your best bet to see a Mt. Lion, but I haven’t seen one yet.
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 17, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve been focused on bobcats for a few years now.
Any cougar shots? :~)
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
No cougars, but I did see a beaver once.
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 17, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
How do you do your IR shots? I did 3 rolls of IR for a college project a few years ago and its a huge pain in the ass and completely stress full as the cannister itself cannot be exposed to light like normal film.
Do you use IR Film or are you using the new fancy IR specialized pentax(?) camera?
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Mar 17, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
When I played around with IR years ago, I just shot with a digital camera that had an IR filter.
Ask me about my blog.
That’s not true IR though. :P
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Mar 17, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I suppose my shots aren’t “true” IR either.
Technically they’re “near infra-red.”
There’s a place in Washington state called Lifepixel and, for a fee, they’ll replace the low-pass filter in your digital camera with an near-infrared filter.
I did mine a while back, but they have a whole host of different kinds of IR modifications to offer now.
Good stuff.
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 17, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Awesome. You’ve got some really beautiful shots. I’m trying to get back into photography and I was thinking of your stuff the other day.
Ask me about my blog.
Nikon D300, Nikkor 300mm Prime lens, paired with a Kenko 1.4x teleconverter. The D300 has a DX sized sensor, so the actual 35mm focal length equivalent is 672mm (with the converter).
My IR camera is a old Nikon Coolpix 5400.
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 17, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
rec'd
I’m glad you asked, I had not seen his photos before.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Ha! – I was thinking about YOU because I’ve been getting into snake photography and there’s this killer subspecies of garter snake called Thamnophis atratus zaxanthus, or diablo range garter snake.
That’s not where you got your handle, is it?
I wish i understood latin better.
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 17, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
The orbital insertion maneuver will begin at about 6pm this evening.
Oooh, date night!
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Your avatar makes this the perfect comment
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I think I am going to start referring to all sex acts as "maneuvers"
Makes em sound classy.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
put an 'o' in there
it’s even classier
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"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
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That’s pretty early. But it is St. Patrick’s Day.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
everybody drink
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Too late!!
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
This thread is becoming one of my all-time favorites rather rapidly.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
For 1000’s of years, assuming celestial bodies were Gods meant something. So did thinking the earth was flat. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of penis-faced scientists are trying to reinvent astrology?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
We are seriously provoking the wrath of the Mercurians.
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by shanghaijim on Mar 17, 2011 11:36 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
We have Andres Torres on our side
He is as fast as any Mercurian!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Where to follow the progress
Daniel Muller’s realtime countdown clock (which includes key events other than the moment of orbit insertion), running now
MESSENGER’s website, which will begin a live webcast at 23:55 UTC / 4:55 p.m. PDT according to the mission website, but 23:30 / 4:30 according to Twitter; I’ll certainly be tuned in at the earlier time.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow that thing is moving fast.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
TWSS
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
She said that before the insertion?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
—Rogers Hornsby
yes
and 8 seconds later
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I also noticed a spot for “Messenger Twitter Updates.” It would be cool if the space craft was going to actually send twitter updates. Or if it just started posting Space Oddity lyrics.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
HIOLY CRAP IS IT HOT HERE
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
BEEN IN SPACE FOR 8 YEARS NOW #MISSIN MY BOO
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
BE SURE TO PUSH EXPEL AND NOT INTAKE WHEN FLUSHING SPACE POO
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
MILK WAS A BAD CHOICE
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year, 23 years old. This is his year.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that.
by free f.p. #14 on Mar 17, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy shit they launched that thing in 2004?!
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
If you really want a surprise
Lookup of the circuitous route it took to get where it is.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I noticed the two flyby dates. I wonder why they didn’t just put it in to orbit right away.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
wouldn’t that require a lot more energy?
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
With less than six hours to go, MESSENGER is on schedule for its 8:45 p.m. (EDT) rendezvous with Mercury. “The command sequence containing instructions to maneuver MESSENGER into orbit about Mercury is now executing, the science instruments have been turned off, and the propulsion system is conditioned for its big show this evening,” says MESSENGER Project Manager Peter Bedini.
The MESSENGER team at the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory (APL) in Laurel, Md., expects confirmation of orbit by 10 p.m. (EDT).
Coverage of the mission will begin at 8 p.m. (EDT) tonight at APL’s Kossiakoff Auditorium. The event will include a mission overview by MESSENGER Project Scientist Ralph L. McNutt, Jr., and live commentary by other scientists and engineers. The event will be broadcast live via Webcast at http://mfile.akamai.com/7111/live/reflector:22179.asx?bkup=22194. Note: This webcast cannot be viewed using Safari browser. Mozilla Firefox is recommended when viewing this webcast on a Mac.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Very much so
I’m a nerd. If my mother had a basement, I would be living there.
Actually, what I am really looking forward to is the New Horizons mission.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
New Horizons will be great. Mariner 10 gave us a good first look at Mercury during its flyby in 1975, but to date no probe has ever returned close-up data on Pluto. What we could learn from New Horizons could re-write the books on icy bodies in the Kuiper Belt.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
I remember both Voyager missions
I was a mezmerized kid when all that was happening. I was already geeked out about space after watching Apollo, but that cemented it.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
New Horizons!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, you leave Duane's belt out of this.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Adoptive dad of Andrew Romo. Hope he's half the beard-grower his big brother is.
OK I am hooked.
Get me some popcorn.
I want to wake my daughter from her nap so she can see this.
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
I can see an argument for BA, even RBIs
Though they both obviously have flaws. But thinking a win-loss record means anything for a pitcher is absolutely ridiculous. Even Cy Young voters realize this now.
I would add RBIs to your list. Jenkins chose spectacularly silly numbers to illustrate his point, if there was one other than expressing a desire that underage individuals vacate the grass in front of his dwelling.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, they only matter if they are clutch runs, so I don’t see your point.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I assume it's passive vs. aggressive
I think they think an RBI means (usually) someone did something and their team benefited because of it. A run scored means you just waited around for someone else to do something.
Of course, it misses the whole point that getting on base is (usually) critical to scoring runs.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
I’m so tired of hearing about Micheal Young
Michael Young told Tim MacMahon of ESPN Dallas that he has is having a tough time adjusting to his new role as a designated hitter/utility infielder.
“It’s definitely tough to get in a rhythm, without a doubt,” said Young. “If I was playing second every day, it’d be easier to get locked in. If I was playing third, it’d be easier to get locked in. It’s definitely tough to bounce around, but I’ve had to kind of get accustomed to it this spring.” He might be struggling with his new role, but it’s hard to tell by the way he’s swinging the bat. Young is batting .393 with two doubles, two triples and six RBI over his first 28 at-bats this spring.
Ask me about my blog.
Since Young is a hunk of rock playing the field, I see what he means by getting “locked in.” It’s a miracle he can jog off the field at the end of each half inning.
by Every6thDay on Mar 17, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Jenkins know his audience, and is simply trolling. Jon Carrol likes to bait cyclists. Jenkins likes to bait stat nerdz. Pathetic. Carrol seems like a decent fellow, so, maybe his editors are confused.
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 17, 2011 10:17 AM PDT reply actions
Indeed.
The first time he did it, it broke my heart, because dude is funny. Often.
The second time, I just thought, okay, SFGate has instituted a policy of trolling/baiting to increase reader comments.
If bumper stickers were theprose form of the 80’s, then trolling has got to be the prose form of the new century.
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 17, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
To be fair, the cyclists in San Fran have been a fairly militant bunch in the last few years. That attitude generally earns a mocking of some sort.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, with all their trying to stay alive and shit.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
Both sides have some insufferable assholes.
by chilibean_3 on Mar 17, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
If dying for my commute is good enough for Jesus
It is good enough for bicyclists as well!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I would have less mixed feeling if as a pedestrian I didn’t have to keep a sharp elbow ready for the ones trying to run me down. A large chunk, at least a third, are just as bad as auto drivers, just a little less deadly.
…and many have no sense of humor. I often find them stopped at a red light, blocking my ability to make a right on red. They never seem to enjoy it when I yell “Share the road” at them.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
I don’t mind that — if it were a car, it’d be blocking me, too. On the road in a car, I am very tolerant. But when they blow down crowded sidewalks on their brakeless fixies, I am not.
When walking, I am more likely to be run into by a biker or, at least, forced to make a sudden evasive maneuver (usually accompanied by an insult from the biker). And I see bikers break the rules of the road faaaaaaaar more often. Like 90% of them ignore stop lights, stop signs, and what have you. Feel like, anyway. And forget about turning gestures.
Not to say that auto users are without sin, of course. Far from it.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
For me it’s all about the likely harm. Yes, bicyclists should not put themselves at risk, because in the end we all pay for their hospital bills on one level or another. But when they put others at risk, I get really irate.
I don’t disagree, but even the most maniacal bicyclist is far less of a danger to others than every single person who has ever driven a car.
I’m sorry for your wife. But I know you know that anecdote ain’t data. No question American cyclists are disproportionately assholes (largely attributable to the fact that cycling is so damn hard here imo). But that doesn’t make them a public health hazard in any real sense — the opposite, if anything.
How many pedestrians or motorists were killed by bikes last year?
I’ll agree that this new generation of cyclists needs to adopt a more thoughtful riding style, but, at the end of teh day, there really isn’t any moral high ground for motorists to claim (as a group).
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 17, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I've seen more bad behavior by cyclists
in San Francisco than I’ve ever seen done by auto drivers.
So many of the cyclists obey no rules and go where they want. I’ve seen them cause auto accidents. I doubt these same individuals would ever drive a car that badly, yet somehow they feel they can ignore all rules while cycling.
“More?”
I suspect you are just used to car driver misbehaviour.
You probably don’t even say “Good Day” to them.
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by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Theyre oppressed! That means they can do whatever they have to!
Dad of Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Mar 17, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
And pedestrians are even more oppressed, which is why if it ever comes down to it if possible I am going badly to hurt any cyclist who runs into me.
Kick them in the knees.
Fixie riders have weak knees.
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 17, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I admit, I’m one of those crazy bikers when I’m on campus. But then again, I’m on a college campus that has a grand total of three roads where cars can actually drive (and maybe four stop signs that I encounter on a daily basis), so it’s just a question of pedestrians. If I’m off campus, I follow the rules of the road.
And man, do I hate a lot of the pedestrians. They don’t look when they cross the street, they walk in large groups that don’t allow anyone to get by, they stop suddenly, they make sudden turns, and they walk right in the middle of narrow paths. I’ve never ran into anyone, but there have been some close calls when people decide to cross one of the streets without looking.
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Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
Yeah, whenever anyone complains about those crazy cyclists, I want to get them on a bike for an hour so they can experience guessing what kind of crazy unpredictable shit pedestrians are going to pull next. To say nothing of the cars & trucks.
I used to ride my bike around a lot in Phoenix. It’s not safe as a mode of transportation.
Seems like the most dangerous part isn’t even stoplights. It’s those driveways in the middle of a block where a car will barrel up to the street looking at traffic and not for someone coming down the sidewalk.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I’m good with most cars and trucks on campus, because most of them are just university employees and they know how to deal with bikers. It’s the freaking pedestrians that make me have to slam on my breaks. A lot of them think because they’re walking and they’re slow they don’t have to pay attention, so they’re in their own little world. Hate to break it to you, but you should pay attention, especially if you’re walking in a bike-heavy area like a college campus.
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Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
I’ve been wondering since I moved here: are bikes supposed to stop at stop signs? I’ve noticed they don’t, and it makes me unsure about how to cross. Of course, I live in the Sunset, where most of the cars don’t really stop, just go slow.
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by shanghaijim on Mar 17, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, okay. I understand that. It’s like in the Philippines: there are traffic laws, but no one needs to obey them unless the cops are out for their bribes. :) I understand that!
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by shanghaijim on Mar 17, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
That sounds terribly dangerous.
Why would you not stop at a stop sign?
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
they have to ignore inconvenient laws
how else would they stay alive?
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"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
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Well, bikes are very narrow. And if you stop on a bike, you lose your balance and fall.
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by shanghaijim on Mar 17, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
As for the cars, I’m just making a joke about foreign-born drivers. I mean, my uncle, rest his soul, could not drive here because he was always getting ticketed for not stopping at stop signs. I don’t think there are stop signs in the Philippines, and if you see a pedestrian start to cross, you must go faster to get around them.
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by shanghaijim on Mar 17, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
In Indonesia, and I think other places, the car has the right-of-way.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s probably it. Pedestrian has least rights, and that’s how I walk around here. It’s so weird when I stop to let a car cross and they start waving me across in irritation.
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by shanghaijim on Mar 17, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard stories of car owners suing the pedestrians/bicyclists for damages. This is back during Suharto of course so dunno if that’s changed.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
This actually makes more sense to me. Like how the bigger vessel has the right of way on the water.
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, technically it’s the less nimble craft that has the right of way… which still means bikes and peds should yield to cars, which makes sense to me.
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
In what universe is sail less nimble than a container ship?
I yield to cars because I want to live, but I give cars that take my right of way a good, hard smack on the rearmost window as they pass. Occasionally drivers want to start something as a result, so I only do this where there are lots of people around.
You’re that guy who tried to pull a bat on me after nearly mowing down two dozen people who made the mistake of crossing on a green when you decided to run a red light, aren’t you?
It wasn’t even a wood bat. For shame.
I’m pretty sure that being more nimble, a sail boat would need to yield to a container ship, especially in a restricted space.
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I am the wrong person to consult here. The interwebs seem to indicate that on the open ocean, the container ship formally remains the give-way vessel. However, if the give-way vessel cannot avoid collision, the stand-on vessel is responsible for doing so. Hence, the sailboat has the right of way, but must nonetheless use its brain, turn on its engines and get out of the way.
I know that at least in coastal waters the sailboats have to give way to the container ships, often because the container ships are traveling in tight shipping lanes at high speed. It’s kind of terrifying crossing a shipping lane in light wind if you don’t have a motor. Container ships move really fast.
Bicyclists seem to consider themselves to have a divine right to never stop.
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
what?
put my foot on the ground? but then I gotta start up again!
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I'll just go ahead and leave this here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3nMnr8ZirI
Ryan Cavan: Probably better than you think.
It turns out that bicyclists don’t think this is funny when you yell it at them mockingly from your car window.
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
none of the bikers on the Stanford campus stop at stop signs and it’s really frustrating.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I’m so glad I don’t have a car anymore.
I used to scream at reckless cyclists.
It’s… Why would you do that?
I am a car. Do you not get that?
If we hit each other you will be dead.
I will be a sad car and you will be a dead person.
Why would you do that to us?
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
I don’t want to be an asshole motorist, but I just worry. If they’re not running blindly into intersections, they’re drifting around aimlessly and slowly in the middle of the street. They’re just as bad when I’m walking around – I’ve been nearly hit by bikes several times this year. I don’t know if it’s just Stanford where they’re this bad though, because though bikers on the road used to annoy me (still feel bad for all the tourists who think they can easily bike from Sausalito to Stinson Beach!), it was never to this degree.
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It’s a war, jponry! Like everything else nowadays, it’s militant. Everybody’s militant about something. Everybody’s an activist about something. Everyone wants their rights asserted and other’s rights curtailed.
Meh. I cough and call it fate. I’ve embraced passivity and am working on meekness.
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I’m sick of reckless ridiculous bike riders who think they are the only ones who should have the right to be on the road. And the nitwit car drivers who take being behind the wheel of a 2 ton killing machine as their divine right.
Self entitled bastards the whole lot of them!!!
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I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 17, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes they are supposed to follow vehicle laws.
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"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
In your experience, do most motorist follow vehicle laws?
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 17, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, yes. Do 9 out of 10 cars you see blow through stop signs without slowing down?
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by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s not my experience that most drivers are capable of driving safely, or with other’s safety in mind.
I would not give drivers (in general) a passing grade on their performance at stop signs.
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 17, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I would give bicyclists a much worse grade.
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I guess I give drivers a worse grade because when they fail people die, and when cyclists fail, well, nothing [statistically interesting] happens.
I guess that’s why some states (Idaho and Oregon) are already considering “Red-as-Stop” and “Stop-as-Yield” laws for cyclists.
And by the way, I haven’t defended blowing thru stop signs as a behavior. I’m just pointing out that drivers, as a group, regularly and flagrantly violate all kinds of laws. For them to complain about the same behavior from another class of commuter is textbook hypocrisy.
So add to that, that the bicyle is a sustainable form of transportation. Then add to that, that fossil-fueled cars probably aren’t a sustainable form of transport, and that’s how I get to the conclusion that the cyclists (and pedestrians) have the moral high ground.
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 17, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Bicycles are simply not a viable form of transportation for everyone – think disabled people, the elderly and those who live outside of an urban environment.
I do support a reasonable balance of the needs of motorists, bicyclists and pedestrians. I support the SF Bike Plan and the creation of a citywide bicycle network, but at the same time suspect it will be bicyclists who defy the ‘ghettoization’ of bicycles.
Really though, l find the rhetoric of most bicycle advocates to be somewhat dishonest (I’m not accusing you of this, just in general) since they will couch their transportation policy arguments in terms of a sensible sharing of the roads when in private they will admit to fervently desiring the total elimination of the automobile (and, with my friends at least, a visceral disdain for motorists).
I also believe that the rhetoric of moral superiority prevents actual, constructive discussion of transportation issues.
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
so this:
Bicyclists seem to consider themselves to have a divine right to never stop.
and
It turns out that bicyclists don’t think this is funny when you yell it at them mockingly from your car window.
…is what constructive discourse looks like?
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 17, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
The first is an observation. One that is pretty accurate. The second is my sense of humor.
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I have to admit, if i didn’t think yelling was hilarious, my name wouldn’t be The Gene Hackman.
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 17, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Really? Most bicycle advocates fervently desire the total elimination of the automobile? That seems like a gross overstatement. Most of the bicycle advocates I know are also, at least on occasion, car drivers, and acknowledge that you can’t do everything by bicycle (though most would say, I’m sure, that you can do a lot more than more people think).
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I should have said many rather than most, it’s true. Or maybe even ‘some’.
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I admit, freely, to wrongly blaming bicyclists for the bad urban planning that uses bike lanes to create traffic (stated city policy here) to make driving so miserable that drivers will give up and take LOL MUNI. There should be three 38-Gearys along in the next hour or so. They travel in packs.
I think SF lets bicycle groups carry the water on all these initiatives, and that makes them look unreasonable. I prefer having bike lanes and think that, say, having one on Guerrero or Valencia is great for drivers and bikes both. Turning every 2-lane street into a 1-lane street is nuts.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
yes, motorists routinely blow through stop signs at 20 mph.
you have a very warped sense of reality, Mr. Hackman.
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But at least he has the moral high ground.
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
me?
shit, man.
Don’t matter if i’m on my bike or walking or driving.
I’m on the highway to hell.
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 17, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Like I said above I don’t condone blowing thru stop signs. I find it just as frustrating as the next motorist/pedestrian does.
Bikes just aren’t as dangerous as cars.
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 17, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU SHOULD ALL YIELD TO ME!!!!!
Now that that is settled, Belt looks like he can really hit.
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by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Your question was “do motorists follow vehicle laws”. The answer is, generally, yes. Stop sign means stop. Know it. Live it.
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by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
They mostly stop at stoplights and such, and the majority manage not to drive on the sidewalk.
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Everything you described is something that pedestriants are allowed to do. You as a bicyclist are a vehicle, not a pedestrian. The pedestrian as a result always has the right of way. If this is hard for you to handle on a visceral level, you have to get off your bike and walk yourself.
Me, I hate other pedestrians myself. They can’t even walk in freaking straight lines, and I will tell them so when I am in a bad mood. That doesn’t make what they are doing anything less than kosher.
In my experience...
Bicyclists like to switch between assuming the rights of motorist or pedestrian as fits their immediate needs.
by BestHyperboleEver on Mar 17, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
lol Berkeley pedestrians.
I was mystified the first time I saw what I now think of as Berkeley-style street crossers. The basic strategy is “ignore the light, put your head down so driver’s can see you’re not looking at them, which you aren’t, because looking at them means you see them, and seeing them means you shouldn’t walk, and then walk.”
It’s frightening.
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 17, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Owpostrophe.
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 17, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
The mindset really is “If I don’t look at the cars, it’s not my fault if they hit me.” Really.
Really! I still have a hard time thinking about it.
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 17, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve actually noticed this sort of thing much more in other places. Chicago was particularly bad. My wife and I even started calling it Chicago Jaywalking – the practice of just slowly wandering out into the street and meandering across without looking, even though cars are coming right at you, and assuming they’ll stop. We always connected it to midwestern niceness: you could assume people would stop for you.
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I think in Berkeley, I noticed it mostly around campus. Because, you know, students.
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 17, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
In Italy, you have to do that or you will be run down. I found myself shadowing locals to cross the street because they just head across the street and people stop for them. If you are hesitant or make eye contact they figure you should know better than to walk in front of their car and just keep going. Despite the apparent insanity of all Roman pedestrians, drivers and bicyclists, in the week I was there, I never saw a collision. A friend who lives there explained that signs and laws are regarded as suggestions, but the one unbreakable rule is no hitting anything. It seems to work, but I’m still not sure how.
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
/decides not to go to Italy, or at least not to do any walking there.
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by howtheyscored on Mar 17, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Not because I wouldn’t be safe. Just because I would shit myself.
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 17, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you go to Naples? It’s bananas, just get a local between you and the traffic and go for broke.
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"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL – that’s EXACTLY how I crossed streets in Rome. I was scared to cross streets, so I totally shadowed the locals to cross.
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And it’s especially strange to me, who is a person who, as a pedestrian, will routinely wait for a walk sign even if there are no cars on the road, and who when preparing to cross the street at a stop sign, will wave cars through so they don’t have to wait for me.
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 17, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
On behalf of all the drivers you have waved through, I officially appreciate your consideration and thank you for your courtesy.
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
And if they insist on waving me through instead, I run acoss.
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 17, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Across, too.
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 17, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I like to show some hustle in that situation too.
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 17, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel bad when a car waves me through, but running would be kind of strange, so I do this weird half-run half-walk hopping thing instead.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Sometimes I’m carrying a bag and I have to do this weird bag-clutch half-run thing.
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by howtheyscored on Mar 17, 2011 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t imagine having to actually drive in Berkeley.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Then try imagining not having a heaven. It’s easy if you try.
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by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
It has earned them the nickname ‘Massholes’.
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
that's the funny part
In this particular piece he wasn’t ranting about the SF fixie crowd, he got shamed by some wanna-be road racer and went on to condemn road riders as rude and overly serious.
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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 17, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
rays?
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good quote
Congratulations, Angelenos! You are the fairest of America’s fair-weather fans! The Lakers unfaithful abandoned their team en masse when Magic retired in 1991, then reconfirmed their fickleness by sending local TV ratings plummeting 30 percent after Shaq departed in 2004.
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LOL, Oregon basketball fans #14?
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Games at Mac Court were a lot of fun.
As for Duke fans, we went to a Duke-NC State women’s game a few years back and got to hear the “If you can’t go to college, go to State” taunt in person. My favorite, though, was when Duke fans would point at themselves and say “Culture” and then point over at State fans and say “Agri-culture”.
Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.
well... they are number 9 on the list...
and i agree:
When everyone already resents you for being a perennial national champion, brainstorming new ways to make fun of people doesn’t make you clever. It makes you a dick.
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Not to mention that State students
are generally poorer and blacker than their Duke counterparts, which makes the taunts seem a little less good-natured and harmless…
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LOL, i'm a WVU fan, and West Virginias #3, this is too true
those people are just straight up hooligans and hoopies… oh my god, i’ve never been around a crazier crowd of people in my life, flipping of kids, yelling at kids, swearing at kids for wearing Marshall stuff, it was insane
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yep, this almost happened at Miami with my big bro who's a huge WVU fan
The school led the nation in intentionally set street fires from 1997 to 2003, lighting up an unmatchable 1,120 blazes. That includes 120 in a single night to celebrate a football win over Virginia Tech in 2003 and sixty infernos set to celebrate advancing to the second round of the NCAA basketball tournament in 2005.
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Ha, right off the bat
15. Los Angeles Lakers
Starfuckers
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
/reads ‘laker fans’ only earned #15
/ignores the rest of the article
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
/continues to read anyway
/reads #4 Raider fans
/outraged
/shivs somebody
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Raiders fans are full of fail
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+1
Like the 49er QB situation
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
for the past 9 years, yep
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LOL
My roommate is a fan of 15, 12, and 9.
Also, I’m surprised Habs fans aren’t higher on the list. Just this past week they flooded Montreal’s emergency services reporting Zdeno Chara’s hit on Max Pacioretty.
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I really don't think
it’s so very hard to understand. Sabremetrics are an attempt to isolate the information to only aspects of the game that are under direct control of the player you’re looking at. Why is this wrong and Unamerican? How stupid do you have to be to see that it’s the way to go?
OTOH, it’s really, really hard to isolate that information, from what I’ve seen. But RBIs and wins for pitchers is just dumb.
This torture tastes delicious.
Nerd's reinventing the game?
More like just a different view of the game. He can give meaning to whatever he wants to. It just sounds like he is complaining nobody is playing in his sandbox anymore, instead of going to the new one.
Time to repeat in '11!
by Myemail21479 on Mar 17, 2011 10:24 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, lost in his rant- the game hasn't changed at all, just the interpretation
Interesting delusion of grandeur
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For the entire history of baseball, RBIs meant something. So did win/loss totals. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of people who are more qualified to analyze statistical data than most athletes are trying to reinvent the way we comprehend the statistical nature of baseball?
Peanut Butter outside, Chocolate inside... Butter inside, Cheese outside.
Nope. That one guy posted a lengthy blog article hours after the situation began stating that he wasn't worried
and that there’s no reason to be worried, so, I am not worried.
by Every6thDay on Mar 17, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
we needed wcw and jctgamer to come in and give us some updates.
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Basically from what I have been reading.. the cores are gonna melt down but the reactors are going to contain it. The problem is they put all the old fuel rods in these giant pools of water next to the reactors..well I guess those pools are empty and the old rods are dumping tons of radiation into the air.
now bloomberg is reporting radiation alarms triggered in chicago and houston in plane cabins and luggage from Flights from Tokyo.. Not harmful amounts but enough to trigger alarms.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-17/tokyo-passengers-trigger-u-s-airport-detectors-n-y-post-says.html
On the other hand, they have restored power to the plant. But almost all the other news is still pretty bad.
I haven’t seen this. Got a link?
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New Power Line Installed At Fukushima Daiichi Plant: Govt
TOKYO (Nikkei)—Japanese officials have installed cables to supply electricity from Tohoku Electric Power Co.‘s (9506) power grid to the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, a step they hope will help inject water more efficiently into the facility’s crippled reactors that are at the center of Japan’s nuclear crisis, the government’s Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said at a news conference Thursday night.
Officials will try to connect the cable to the plant’s No. 2 reactor on Friday, the agency said.
The No. 2 reactor’s containment vessel was partly damaged in its pressure suppression chamber. The reactor building is emitting vapor deemed to have originated from spent nuclear fuel’s storage pools into the air.
Tokyo Electric Power Co. (9501), which operates the plant, will try to restart the No. 2 reactor’s cooling system Friday by using the power supply from Tohoku Electric, officials said.
Sounds like the pumps are still down, though.
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They are, and the spent pond at No. 4 has been dry for who knows how long. About the only other good news aside from the cable was that the pump cars got a little water into the dry areas, and that Tepco has taken headcount back into the 300s from 50.
I’ve heard they are having to switch workers out at much faster rates as the amount of radiation grows.
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You know it’s bad when even TEPCO is admitting it.
“The pond in rector four is the cause of very considerable concern. What has happened is that this has been damaged by explosions and is leaking very fast.
“We’ve had reports that it has gone dry.”
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You know it’s bad when even TEPCO is admitting it.
“The pond in rector four is the cause of very considerable concern. What has happened is that this has been damaged by explosions and is leaking very fast.
“We’ve had reports that it has gone dry.”
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
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Those aren't 4th day undies
They’re WEDNESDAY undies. Fuckin’ Jenkins.
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game that seems to have resurrected itself in my absence...
what day comes after Wednesday?
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Buster Posey: 100% ballplayer, 0% bullshit
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year, 23 years old. This is the year.
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by free f.p. #14 on Mar 17, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
win
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by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Today, Thursday, March 17, 2011. It’s thirty-five minutes past the hour.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
Now on to the news
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
DONT!!!!!!!
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FRIED EGG FRIED EGG
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by Murray, Present on Mar 17, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
fun fun fun fun
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Are 4th Day Undies similar to 7th Day Adventists?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
JUST AS HOLY!!
Thank you! Try the veal! Don’t forget to tip your waitresses.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm not clever enough for this.
But does this offend anyone else?
Now it all means nothing because a bunch of nonathletes are trying to reinvent the game?
I’m pretty sure a solid majority of us and stat guys played sports at least through high school. It might not make us professional athletes, but we are still athletes.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
Reminds me of the Jonah Hill casting for Paul DePodesta
in the Moneyball movie. Its like, uh, the dude played college football at Harvard. Yeah, its Harvard but still, its Division I football.
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Buster Posey: 100% ballplayer, 0% bullshit
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year, 23 years old. This is the year.
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by free f.p. #14 on Mar 17, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Ikr. I’m the total non athlete in the room (PE: chess) and I’m the non-stats person.
He’s just trolling.
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by shanghaijim on Mar 17, 2011 11:46 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Chess is a sport! Check that king! Check that king! Mate! Mate! Mate!
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by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Mate! Mate! Mate!
Ah, high school.
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by shanghaijim on Mar 17, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
i'm trying to reinvent the game? SINCE WHEN BRUCE
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Yeah
I played high school sports and I can pretty much guarantee I’m a better athlete than that worthless shitbag. Also, stolen from FJM:
Also, since he’s pretty much calling everyone who cites statistics nerds, I did a search for “Bruce Jenkins” on baseballreference.com.
The results? “Found 0 hits for your search.”
Bruce Jenkins: never a professional baseball player.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Meh
For minutes now, Bruce Jenkins meant something. So did belly button lint. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of people with brainwaves are trying to reinvent the common sense?
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
In retrospect,
I should have removed the last “the”
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
For decades, slavery meant something. So did the subjugation of women. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of hippies are trying to reinvent civil rights?
Too soon?
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Mar 17, 2011 10:48 AM PDT reply actions 7 recs
A+
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." - Grant
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
Third Street Kings
by walkoff baltimore chop on Mar 17, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Perfect for this thread
sabr sabr by robneyer
Our new website is now live! Come check it out: http://www.sabr.org
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 10:52 AM PDT reply actions
For several decades, Intellivision meant something. So did Colecovision, Atari, and Famicon. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of realistic graphics and gameplay whores are trying to reinvent the rules of videogames?
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
I do miss Intellivision, though.
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Oh, you are so, so wrong.
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Come on now, the number pad was just silly.
/slides in underlay
by chilibean_3 on Mar 17, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I still have a plastic bag full of those.
Ow! Nostalgia!
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Nice phone.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Mar 17, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
For centuries, creation myths involving the earth being a giant turtle meant something. So did sun god worship. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of scientists are trying to reinvent basic astronomy?
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Mar 17, 2011 10:53 AM PDT reply actions
But the Earth is still 6000 years old right?
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
the dinosaur “fossils” were planted to test our resolve. duh
by NeifiPerezz on Mar 17, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
how on earth do you reinvent astronomy
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You can, but don't make the same mistake Galileo did
Keep it to yourself!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
For boogers, poop meant something. So did farts. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of mucus are trying to reinvent the weiner?
oh my god, i'm in shock
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
awesome
I read this in Butt-head’s voice
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
looks like that NYT tech gadget columnist
Jacob Dunnington
by TimLaser and MattyC on Mar 17, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
There were other funny things on here...
but THIS is the one that made me laugh.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
/snickers, makes fart noises
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Jenkins spots hot gamer prospect
.278, .301, .350
by whiteylockmandoubled on Mar 17, 2011 10:57 AM PDT reply actions
For fifteen minutes, Katy Perry meant something. So did Ke$ha. Now it all means nothing because Rebecca Black is trying to reinvent truly horrible tween pop music?
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Mar 17, 2011 10:59 AM PDT reply actions
People need to stop grouping Katy Perry with Ke$ha.
I did find this funny tho.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
They really don’t need to.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Katy Perry is still relevant. She has substantial assets.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Pig
I was thinking about her intellectual and critical thinking prowess
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
FAKE
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Most fake ones look funny
Too gravity defying or something.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Katy Perry’s almost look gravity defying
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
FLAWLESS REBECCA BLACK
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
For years, Friday meant something. So did looking forward to the weekend. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of passing school busses are trying to reinvent fun, fun, fun, fun.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
by rotorueter on Mar 17, 2011 11:00 AM PDT reply actions 12 recs
YES
San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
Buster Posey: 100% ballplayer, 0% bullshit
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year, 23 years old. This is the year.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that.
by free f.p. #14 on Mar 17, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I WISH I COULD REC THIS TWENTY TIMES
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
OH DEAR CY
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." - Grant
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
Third Street Kings
by walkoff baltimore chop on Mar 17, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
This feels like a million giddy hugs.
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Suck it Pepsi
U.S. sales of Diet Coke overtook those of Pepsi-Cola for the first time in 2010, making the diet soda the No. 2 carbonated soft drink in the country behind Coca-Cola, industry data are expected to confirm Thursday.
http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/112372/diet-coke-wins-battle-in-cola-wars
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Trial two
For centuries, the sun rotating around the Earth meant something. So did the flatness of the Earth. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of beard-wearing, telescope-viewing, star-gazing kooks are trying to reinvent Astronomy?
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Christ, what an asshole.
Still backing Notgardo, wheresoever he may wander. (Don't forget to wriiiite!)
by tk on Mar 17, 2011 11:03 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Christ was a pretty good guy actually.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
at least, that's what my parents told me
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
I mean he did die to redeem the entirety of humanity.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Arrogant bastard
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
For centuries, crucifixion meant something, it was the standard punishment for Roman criminals. So did flagellation. Now it means something else because some long haired dude from Nazareth died for humanity’s sins and made it into his symbol?
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Mar 17, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
too soon
also LOL. Happy Easter, PR!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I think tk was talking to Christ just now.
by Every6thDay on Mar 17, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Could also be commenting on his magnificent sphincter.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
by scout6 on Mar 17, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
HAHA!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I AM UTTERLY OFFENDD BY THIS ENTIR THREAD AND WILL BE PRAYING FOR ALL OF YOU. also, what?
Dad of Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Mar 17, 2011 11:49 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Vapors!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I need the smelling salts
Dad of Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Mar 17, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
OT: Click here to hide the spam
Pretty good deal (or you could make an offer for my field clubs):
$10 — WORLD CHAMP SF GIANTS VS. OAKLAND A’S, REG. $20
http://www.travelzoo.com/l/64578861-996105/
The Giants will be closing out their spring schedule as they
take on the A’s on March 28 and March 30. Choose from two
discounted seating levels:
- View Reserved Infield … $10 (current price $20)
- Lower Box Left Field … $15 (current price $30)
Enter the code CHAMPS in the Coupon Code box and select your seating
level.
For more information on this deal, click here:
http://www.travelzoo.com/l/64578861-996105/
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
Preseason games they should pay us
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
OT: Interesting, Peets and Starbucks
they’re close to a deal?
Peet’s Coffee & Tea Inc (PEET.O) recently held talks with Starbucks Corp (SBUX.O) about a potential sale to the large coffee shop chain, CNBC reported, citing a DealReporter report.
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Bummer
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
well...
“What can Starbucks do with Peet’s business in the next 2 to 3 years? They can probably double or triple it,” West added.
yea
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Oh wow. I don’t drink coffee so I don’t care but that still seems surprising.
by chilibean_3 on Mar 17, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully this means an end to the horrible coffee at Starbucks.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
unfortunately, it’ll probably mean horrible coffee at Peets
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
hell, i also like the pastries at peets more than starbucks
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Or it’s an end to the existence of Peets, soon to be available (for additional fee) in SBUX.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
well, you can imagine how Peet's stock is doing
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I always thought the drive for unending growth was problematic.
I don’t get it. Probably why I’m poor.
by Every6thDay on Mar 17, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
THIS! I asked my dad about it once. “why do we have to grow the business? Can’t it just stay the same?”
Around that time, he decided to eventually sell the company rather than give it to me.
Dad of Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Mar 17, 2011 11:52 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That’s a basic principle of economics. Growth is necessary.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
“Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.” – Edward Abbey
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Adoptive dad of Andrew Romo. Hope he's half the beard-grower his big brother is.
by EliminateMe on Mar 17, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, like I laid attention to economics in high school. Or statistics. Or accounting. I’m a poet! An artist! I sip nectar from the teat of Polyhymnia!
Dad of Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Mar 17, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep! And ultimately will never amount to anything, believe me, I know it.
Dad of Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Mar 17, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
never amount to anything
You are an artiste!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
No no, artist.
Artiste refers to Julie Taymor, or so I’ve heard lately.
Dad of Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Mar 17, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
/googles Julie Taymor, shrugs
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I sip nectar from the teat of Polyhymnia!
I hear Starbucks is buying this too.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Noooooooooooo
Dad of Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Mar 17, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
and i agree with this
“Other than Starbucks removing a competitor from a marketplace, I don’t see much of a synergistic need for Peet’s to be gobbled up by Starbucks,” Reynolds said.
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
meh, i'll go to the Ugly Mugg over on soquel
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
ohhhhh, shoot. then that's different
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Not exactly a limited selection
There’s still Lulu’s, Bene, Pergolesi…just off the top of my head.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Adoptive dad of Andrew Romo. Hope he's half the beard-grower his big brother is.
by EliminateMe on Mar 17, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I was referring to
actually buying lbs of coffee to consume in my home. Agreed, there’s lots of great coffee houses in this town.
This torture tastes delicious.
Oh yeah. Well, then I’d go someplace that carries Verve. SCCRC is good but Verve is way better.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Adoptive dad of Andrew Romo. Hope he's half the beard-grower his big brother is.
by EliminateMe on Mar 17, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Verve?
This is new to me.
PiKA, the best coffee house, IMO of course, is Pergolesi because they have these awesome chocolate or vanilla cupcakes with white frosting. Man, those things are fluffy and delicious. Plus, good chai.
This torture tastes delicious.
It's pretty new, period.
I think New Leaf carries it, or you can go to their place on 41st. You won’t be sorry.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Adoptive dad of Andrew Romo. Hope he's half the beard-grower his big brother is.
ZOMG – they’re going to be opening a New Leaf up in my neighborhood in a few months. I can’t hardly wait.
I USED TO NOT BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
i can't stop wont stop
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Hm
Guess I’m the only one that thinks Peet’s tastes awful and Starbucks tastes good.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Ve read that we are all wrong in our value system regarding coffee, and that the Japanese are far superior in this regard.
Dad of Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Mar 17, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with Peets being bad
I like Starbucks frappucino’s and I haven’t seen any coffee places that make blended drinks as well as them
I'm sure this thread is dead, but
Coffee Bean has the best ice blended drinks. Easily.
by Every6thDay on Mar 18, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
noooooooooooooooooooooooo
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." - Grant
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
Third Street Kings
by walkoff baltimore chop on Mar 17, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
wow. amazing.
judybattista Judy Battista
RT @familyonbikes: Japanese nuclear worker: “I am prepared to die to avoid meltdown.” Say it with me: I won’t complain about my job today.
Adopted Father of Marc Kroon. He better make the roster.
This looks like fun!
For many millenia, crawling around on all fours meant something. So did slithering, oozing, flopping, writhing, and squirming. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of bipedal baboon-babies are trying to reinvent the concept of effecient movement?
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. - SLC
I was certain he had written the following before:
For more than a century, .220 meant something. So did .278, .301, .350, an 18-4 record, or 118 RBIs. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of nonathletes are trying to reinvent the game?
Using my mother’s computer wizardry, I found out I was right (ironic title is ironic):
But no matter how modern-day statisticians try to downplay traditional numbers, there’s a volume of meaning in .178, .230, .289 and .337, at least when based over a long period of time. That’s a wonderful little taste of truth.
So not only is he an idiot, not only has he learned nothing about the game of baseball in almost 6 years, he’s also just recycling material.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
FJM skewering here.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Missed the 2nd part.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
nice link
For heaven’s sake, speak English. This is the new cool trend in baseball, quoting esoteric statistics as if they’ve been part of the game’s fabric for 50 years. Go ahead, disappear into a basement somewhere and play around with numbers. Be sure to remember HEEP, SKANK and VLZSKS, while you’re at it. We’ll be out in the sun, discussing a little thing we like to call “runs batted in.”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/09/14/SPG2JEN50G1.DTL#ixzz1GsjnVnta
I left the stupid “read more” link in because I think it’s funny the Robo-Chron thinks that will increase readership.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Especially when
it doesn’t even paste itself in right so you follow it for more and you get a nice 404.
Still backing Notgardo, wheresoever he may wander. (Don't forget to wriiiite!)
404? Speak English, I remember when it was simply an unresolved link.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
by bgunn on Mar 17, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
Nice to see you around tk!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Just because I live in my mother’s basement doesn’t mean that I don’t shower and change my underwear everyday.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Mar 17, 2011 11:25 AM PDT reply actions
Who isn't?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
always
my wife is not on board
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
/obligatory public admonishment for using such an easy double entendre
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
when an lazy joke is not made
an angel gets aids.
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Actually
I think I like “bababababa” better. That made me crack up at work.
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year, 23 years old. This is his year.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that.
by free f.p. #14 on Mar 17, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Craven Morehead
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
LOL, u lose
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
OT: 1st round of games… 1 down, got WVU
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
1 for 1!!!!!!! YES
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
I'm the only one to go 0-1,
If Butler wins, I’ll be 0-2. I suck in RD1
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
wait... tied
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
WHAT A GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUTLER!!!!!!!!!
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
2 for 2!!!!!!!
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
For decades, the Giant’s futility meant something. So did their utter inability to produce any useful players from their farm system. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of castoff and mistfits are trying to reinvent a new winning attitude.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Mar 17, 2011 11:30 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
For the span on human history, human emotion meant something. So did companionship and connection on a spiritual level. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of geneticists and robotic scientists are trying to reinvent the definition of humanity.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 11:33 AM PDT reply actions
It’s a brave new world, Johnny.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
For centuries The Church meant something. So did Inquisitions and Crusades. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of Lutherans are trying to reinvent religion?
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
For centuries, paganism meant something. So did making ritual sacrifices and drinking from the skulls of our enemies. Now it all means nothing because of bunch of Jewish cult members are trying to reinvent religion?
He uses statistics as a drunken man uses a lamp-post - for support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
For centuries the lack of higher learning meant something. So did the need for research in science and math. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of Catholics are trying to invent the university?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
BOLOGNA!
Dad of Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Mar 17, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently during the Old Dominion
Nobody learned how to rebound the fucking basketball gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! GO BUTLER!!!
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urgh. not shaping up to be the best day for me…
Adopted Father of Marc Kroon. He better make the roster.
ohhhh noooooooo, maybe you should've picked WVU and Butler
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
i picked WVU and old dominion still has a chance.
Adopted Father of Marc Kroon. He better make the roster.
Free throws....
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
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Goddammit Butler
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
tip in with like .3 left
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
watching your bracket get crushed?
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
ugh. doesn’t matter. they’re losing to pitt.
Adopted Father of Marc Kroon. He better make the roster.
Pitt... so damn good
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Pitt sucks.
Luckily they’re in a weak ass bracket.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
Good thing I bet that there would be no buzzer beaters in the first round.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
BOX OUT?? WHY WERE THERE THREE GUYS ON ONE SIDE OF THE RIM??? UGH>
Adopted Father of Marc Kroon. He better make the roster.
ITS LIKE WATCHING THE WARRIORS, lol
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YES!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
BUTLER WINS!!!!! I am 1 for 2!
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Mar 17, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ll definitely have 2 losses today b/c I took Princeton over Kentucky.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Mar 17, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I would totally watch Visgoths Sports
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
everything go blue for a moment there?
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
OMG TOMMY LASORDA IS ATTACKING!!
Dad of Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Mar 17, 2011 11:51 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Sorry
Apparently my 6-month-old had something to say about that.
by BestHyperboleEver on Mar 17, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I NEED MOREHEAD TO WIN
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LETS GO LOUISVILLE!!!!
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OT: I'm 0 for 2, but gonna win it all:
SportsCenter
#Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski says G Kyrie Irving will play limited minutes off bench Friday vs. Hampton http://es.pn/hJj61c
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
it's cool, cuz i got Duke losing to UCONN
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YES HE CAN, AND HE WILL
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
SHUT UP DUDE
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
As do I. I guess that’s a good thing since you seem way into this.
by chilibean_3 on Mar 17, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
One of the best weeks of the year in my opinion, and i got nothing else to do, since SMC isn’t in it
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Easily the best 4 days. Aside from any 4 day period containing 11/1/10
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
definitely not feeling confident about Arizona moving on against Memphis
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what i'm getting at
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Oh, sweet.
In the McC pool I’m 1 for 2. Too bad in my pools worth $$ I’m 0 for 2 tho.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
WVU is clutch in the tournament, always
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Yea, let’s see what happens next round vs. UK, and i have them losing that game unfortunately… But Pepper just took over in the last few minutes, that was the best defensive scenario i’ve seen
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Faried is a beast.
Adopted Father of Marc Kroon. He better make the roster.
For centuries, “blergle” meant something. So did “faroon”, “glipt” and “tranchet”. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of nearsighted scriveners are trying to reinvent dictionaries?
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Adoptive dad of Andrew Romo. Hope he's half the beard-grower his big brother is.
by EliminateMe on Mar 17, 2011 11:57 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
For seconds, reading through all comments meant something. So did Z’ing. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of cockney are trying to reinvent the shift-A?
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." - Grant
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
Third Street Kings
by walkoff baltimore chop on Mar 17, 2011 11:58 AM PDT reply actions
When is the NCAA tournament over?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
should be after opening day
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april... 4th? 5th?
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
April 4th is the finals. Says my bracket.
by chilibean_3 on Mar 17, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
MADNESS
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmmmm, just realized I picked a lot of underdogs. That seems like a sound strategy.
by chilibean_3 on Mar 17, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
To hell with April 4
April 5th the WS trophy is in Fresno.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
It will go away in a couple weeks when most people have been utterly eliminated from whatever gambling scheme they have become involved in.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I have noticed a correlation in the “madness” of March relative to how well a given person’s bracket is performing. If the bracket goes bust, they tend to stop caring quite so much.
LIVE EDT
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The only time I cared about march madness was when I was a kid and my mom bought me the basketball from Pizza Hut.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I loved those.
There was this time when my brother and I order pizza while my parents were away. My parents came home a lot earlier than expected and before the pizza guy came. So I had to distract my parents while my brother waited outside of my parents’ house to intercept the pizza guy.
Good times.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Even if your brackets are still alive, the first 2 rounds are 100 times better than the next 4 rounds. Today and tomorrow there are around 2-4 games going at all times. Sat/Sun there is 1-2 games going on at all times. The next week not so much.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
by the way
anyone else get Baggs’ book today?
Adopted Father of Marc Kroon. He better make the roster.
No! I’m kinda ticked off – it shows that it’s In Stock on Amazon, but my expected delivery date of my pre-order is still April 1. Wonder if I can cancel and re-order to get it now.
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by can of corn on Mar 17, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Ew!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha! I showed them. I cancelled the other order and put in new order. I get my free Amazon Prime trial two-day shipping, plus I only pay $3.57 since I got a $10 credit when I bought a DS game for my kid. Yay me!
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by can of corn on Mar 17, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s supposed to arrive next Wednesday.
I don’t know what I did to piss off Amazon.
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
At least you had an arrival date. Mine just said “Expected Delivery between March 1 and April 1.” Fuck that. I want it now!
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by can of corn on Mar 17, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Who cares?
If I want to watch an an old has-been yelling into the wind I’ll go down to the Tenderloin
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Read this as
“I’ll go down on the Tenderloin”
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
For several centuries, “hwā” meant “something”. So did “hwæt”. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of people who no longer speak Old English are trying to reinvent the English language?
Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.
by D4P on Mar 17, 2011 12:17 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
OOOOOO, thanks Grant, later everybody
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Right when I was about to make my first fanpost.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
For several years, McC meant "something". Or nothing, I don’t remember. Now it all means nothing because a bunch one people who believes basketball is not a sport is trying to reinvent what is an acceptable topic for discussion in a thread?
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Any chance this meme could last all year?
Kind of an official McC complaint form?
“I’m sorry, we did not receive your complaint as it was not submitted in the right format. Please resubmit in the following format: For (some extended period of time), (this outdated stuff) meant something. So did (other outdated stuff). Now it all means nothing because a bunch of (pejorative) are trying to reinvent the (subject)?
Only submissions in the correct format will be allowed to post.
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
OT: Planning a big trip to London in November
Any folks here do the hostel thing? I’m not exactly made of money and traveling on my own, so if there’s any tips on places to stay, by all means, let me know.
For a long ass time, earning your pay meant something. So did accountability, putting in an honest day’s work, and respecting your co-workers. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of fucking useless, ass clowns are trying to reinvent the art of doing the bare fucking minimum and being overpaid to do it?
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
Hey, what did I do to you?
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
by ResDog on Mar 17, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Gee, you must work with the same people I do!
FtF: Welcome to Opposite Season!
McC: Don't get it? Try the McWiki wiki.
creepy.
“Strip down to those 4th day undies, head downstairs and churn out some more crap”.
Jenkinsburgers
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
nah
old, stringy, mutton. Pass.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
THERE'S NO SUBSTANCE TO THEM!
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Bitter and overdone!
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Adoptive dad of Andrew Romo. Hope he's half the beard-grower his big brother is.
PBJ. With Fritos between the slices of bread.
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by can of corn on Mar 17, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
jam is better
apple-pear butter is best.
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"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
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Oooo – I love apple butter. That sounds even better. Where would one find such a delicious sandwich spread?
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by can of corn on Mar 17, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
good question
my mom used to make that sort of stuff. I honestly have no idea if that sort of thing is available commercially. I would bet perhaps at farmer’s markets and the like.
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PB&honey, then.
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by can of corn on Mar 17, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
same
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Aren’t you the one who never had a PBJ?
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by can of corn on Mar 17, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
wow, good knowledge!
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It was memorable.
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by can of corn on Mar 17, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I remember that, too.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
seriously? it was that memorable?
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YES! You’d never had a PBJ!!!
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by can of corn on Mar 17, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
yep… still haven’t, plus i dont even have bread here! Gonna go up to Berkeley tomorrow and go to Bread Garden for some wheat bread
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O HO
You’re all “LOL CAL” until you want something good, then it’s all fine. Whatever dude.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Cuz when i think of good things, i think of CAL
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Dude, aren't you in Aptos?
You don’t need to go to Berkeley for bread when there are any number of outstanding bakeries in Santa Cruz.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Adoptive dad of Andrew Romo. Hope he's half the beard-grower his big brother is.
i’ll be up there anyway, i’ll be doing some hiking/running/golfing up in Tildon
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
That's no excuse
for not going to Gayle’s for some of their delicious francese.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Adoptive dad of Andrew Romo. Hope he's half the beard-grower his big brother is.
? i've always gone to gayles
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
My work here is done.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Adoptive dad of Andrew Romo. Hope he's half the beard-grower his big brother is.
been going to Gayles since a kid
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
an american kid who has never had a PB&J?
yeah, that’s memorable.
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I’m sure I have at some point, but I can tell you I don’t like it.
LIVE EDT
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that's understandable
but to have never had one seems well nigh impossible.
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Yeah. Just as memorable as when you had never heard of Karma Chameleon.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I remember that one.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." - Grant
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Third Street Kings
by walkoff baltimore chop on Mar 17, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
never heard of it
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I envy you
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
i have a following
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lots of spambots
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." - Grant
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Third Street Kings
by walkoff baltimore chop on Mar 17, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
vegemite.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
God, no. Have you had it?
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by can of corn on Mar 17, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve tried it. Not recommended.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I like it! I mean, like on a train or backpacking or something.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Me, too. I happily heaped it on my toast on my first morning in Tasmania at a B&B, and took a giant bite, much to the delight of my hosts. It was NASTY. Tastes just like the salty yeast that it is. While disguising itself as delicious apple butter.
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by can of corn on Mar 17, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
ooh
bad tastes when you are expecting something else are real extra bad.
reminds me of that time I took a nice, healthy swig of buttermilk by mistake.
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Bovril
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
what is this?
they had it in a recent Top Gear
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It’s a super concentrated, salty beef extract paste. My godparents always had it around and all their kids would often have butter and bovril on toast. Never liked the stuff myself.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Never tried one. I’m afraid I would like it too much.
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by can of corn on Mar 17, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably heating up the smoked ribs, gonna make either an omelette or quesadilla… although i heard quesadillas are high in fat
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Depends on how much cheese you put on, I guess.
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by can of corn on Mar 17, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
something i didn't realize, cheese is high in fat
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Chasm?
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by can of corn on Mar 17, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I kind of want to give you a friendly hug right now.
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
not if you get them without cheese
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"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Yeah, quesadillas are high in fat but smoked ribs are great for your arteries.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
that melted cheese flows right in.
rib particles are too big to get in your blood stream.
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Trust him kids, he’s a doctor!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
They wouldn’t let him have that username if it weren’t true!
LIVE EDT
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I pronounce it ‘Durrrrr Stankus’
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HERR STANKUS!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
needs a shower
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And change your underwear while you're at it.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Falafel!
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
MOM!
More Hot Pockets!
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Don’t forget to bring my clean underpants! It’s Thursday!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Salad and curry chicken soup leftover from Yummy Yummy yesterday.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Non-atheletes
If you are not an athlete you simply can’t really appreciate sports. If you never danced you can’t really appreciate West Side Story. If you never acted you have no understanding of theater. If you haven’t made a movie don’t offer your opinion on films. Thank you in advance Bruce.
I can only be nice to one person a day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.
by GiantMalcontent on Mar 17, 2011 12:42 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I read that Homer never fought in battle.
Pooooooooooserrrrrrrrrrrrrr
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
OT attempt
For weeks, Charlie Sheen’s tiger blood meant something. So did his Adonis DNA. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of CBS executives are trying to reinvent Winning?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
—Rogers Hornsby
by Lyle on Mar 17, 2011 12:42 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
My response:
Mr. Jenkins- you said something in your article back on March 12th that troubles me a bit.
It won’t be long before we get the first wave of nonsense from stat-crazed dunces claiming there’s nothing to be learned from a batting average, won-loss record or RBI total. Listen, just go back to bed, OK? Strip down to those fourth-day undies, head downstairs (to “your mother’s basement and your mother’s computer,” as Chipper Jones so aptly describes it) and churn out some more crap. For more than a century, .220 meant something. So did .278, .301, .350, an 18-4 record, or 118 RBIs. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of nonathletes are trying to reinvent the game?
Unfortunately, there really isn’t much to be learned from batting average. All it tells us is the player’s rate of hits made, not how often he reached base or how hard he hit the ball. It tells us something, yes, but very little. Win-Loss total is heavily affected by the support the pitcher receives from A) his offense, B) his defense, and C) his bullpen. Is it fair to rate a pitcher based on things that he doesn’t have full control over? And the same can be said about RBI. A hitter’s RBI totals will absolutely be inflated or deflated by his slot in the lineup and his supporting cast, not to mention the difficulty of his opportunities. A hitter that sees an inordinate amount of men on third base will likely knock in more runs than a hitter that sees mostly men on first.
It doesn’t take a mathematical genius or a “stats-crazed dunce” to find the flaws; all it takes is an individual willing to think critically for a minute. Also, I don’t really understand this “.220 meant something for more than a century” logic. For centuries, people cured illnesses with treatments that we would cringe to even consider today. If you’re sick, do you treat it with an old, outdated method that might help a little bit, or do you go to the doctor and get medication that directly solves the problem?
You’ve been grossly mislead if you’re under the impression that sabermetrics is an attempt to “reinvent” the game. Sabermetrics is designed to enhance our understanding of it. It’s an alternative view on things, and it’s something that is being implemented into front offices across the league. If you disagree with sabermetrics, that’s fine- but at least have the decency to try and understand it a bit before you criticize others for finding value in it.
Sorry for the extremely delayed letter, by the way- I don’t live in the Bay and only recently saw your article.
Best Wishes,
JT Jordan
PS- a number of non-athletes invented the traditional statistics that you so often cite.
Triples Alley: Analysis of the San Francisco Giants, Baseball, and Sabermetrics.
by JT Jordan on Mar 17, 2011 12:47 PM PDT reply actions 11 recs
rec'd
I USED TO NOT BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Mar 17, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
If your posts are gonna be all like this, you just wont fit in around here. I suggest adding a few lolcats, maybe some llama pictures, a reference to Kim Batiste and it will be more up to our standards here.
All in all, a good try new guy.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Triples Alley: Analysis of the San Francisco Giants, Baseball, and Sabermetrics.
by JT Jordan on Mar 17, 2011 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Better.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Moneyball
What pisses me off about Jenkins’ article and about the way people talk about Moneyball in general is the fact that they invariably miss the point. It’s not about advanced statistical analysis. That was a byproduct. It’s about finding market inefficiencies so that a team with vastly inferior resources can compete.
Hector Sanchez: Suck it Russell Nathan Coltrane Jeanson Martin.
Yes, that is so much less nerdy of a concept.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I might have to disagree on stats use by the A's under Sandy Alderson being a byproduct.
by mrs. owlcroft on Mar 17, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
True. I should have clarified by saying the purveyance or the popularity of statistical analysis as applied to baseball was a byproduct of Moneyball.
Hector Sanchez: Suck it Russell Nathan Coltrane Jeanson Martin.
Mm, but Moneyball as a “philosophy” is probably different from sabremetrics as a philosophy. There’s no need for sabremetrics to prove itself practical.
Dad of Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
If the weightings and averages are accurate, they should be both predictive and analytic, which would make them a practical tool for assembling a roster.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Roosters come pre-assembled
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
And ready for immediate erection.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Really? I thought one purposely shied away from real-world predictions and devoted more time to unearthing interesting mathematical relationships.
Dad of Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
What we did for the A's was real-world stuff.
The one thing Mr. O is most proud of is finding Billy Taylor and getting him a career in the bigs.
by mrs. owlcroft on Mar 17, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
LESSHEAD
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 12:58 PM PDT reply actions
OT
Big East Can Suck It.
Me 1
Big East 0
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
WVU…
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
I picked them.
But I have them losing in the second round.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
so... the big east can suck it? lol
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
You got it.
I’ve only got Syracuse and Pitt making it to the Sweet 16.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
Pitt, syracuse, Uconn, notre dame
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
My final 4 contains 0 Big East teams.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
those aren't my final four teams, more like my elite 8
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
THat will leave your bracket in shambles.
Don’t you want to win?
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
so far so good
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Mine is
Kansas St., Kansas, Mich St., N. Carolina, tOSU, SD St. and Perdue
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
Frank Perdue U, home of the Fighting Layer Hens!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Forgot Missouri
I’ve got the Big East going 6-15 if I counted right.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
And I realiz
My West Coast Bias is Showing.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
HAHAHA, SUCK IT PRINCETON
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
already in it, bro
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
What's a fan post?
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
GOOD NEWS!!
KenTremendous Ken Tremendous
NBC just picked up #parksandrec for another season. Celebrate by watching our new episode tonight. And by eating a large steak.
Adopted Father of Marc Kroon. He better make the roster.
When I’m done eating a Mulligan’s meal, for weeks afterwards, there are flecks of meat in my mustache. And I refuse to clean it because every now and then a piece of meat will fall into my mouth.
Hatterz gonna hat
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
we got em just where we want
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Aw, jeez, you got us, guys.
Doh! Thanks for puttin’ us in our place.
Go ahead now; we’ll be over here.
…
waiting.
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Who gives a fuck what someone named Chip Buck thinks.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
lol
Chip Buck ON TOAST!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone call the wahmbulance
Chip Buck walks the tight rope of the Red Sox-Yankee rivalry by contributing to both Fire Brand of the American League, a blog about the Boston Red Sox, and It’s About the Money Stupid, a blog about the New York Yankees. You can follow him on Twitter.
AL East fan who thinks the World Series belongs to that division.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
You can follow him on Twitter.
I can stab myself in the eye with a fork, but I’m not doing that either.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, um
In all probability, Huff will be a 2-3 WAR player at best this season. While that’s still pretty solid, it’s not likely to be the kind of production Brian Sabean envisioned when he gave Huff a two-year deal this past winter.
So, he presumably, Sabean has access to all the same information this guy does, and the Giants likely employ at least one dedicated statistician. So, I mean, why would this guy assume that Sabean’s pretenses for giving Huff the contract were so uninformed in comparison to his own predictions? I mean, it’s one thing to say you disagree with it, it is another for a hack writer to just assume that the current WS Champ GM could learn a lot.
Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.
My favorite part
Huff has a 2 year deal for $11 mil per, right? If we use the $5 mil/1 win on the open market theory…
Yeah, that’s exactly the kind of production Brian Sabean envisioned, actually.
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year, 23 years old. This is his year.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that.
by free f.p. #14 on Mar 17, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
It's a Yankees/Red Sox blogger. I wouldn't sweat it too much.
It’s like if those people have no emotional investment in a World Series, then it doesn’t even really exist.
While I’m not trying to take away from their accomplishment
Generally when people say that that is EXACTLY what they are trying to do.
Anagram of "SF Giants World Series Champs" = SHARP, ORGASMIC, ENDLESS SWIFT
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Mar 17, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really I don’t understand how it’s possible to care about either of those teams.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I don’t, either.
But both of them?
Sounds like his real love is being an asshole.
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
by waelwulf on Mar 17, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Somebody throw a Pulitzer at him!
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
No offense, but (something that will offend you)
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
PACK IT UP!
Lets start working on 2012.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Swap The Giants roster with the yankees and.....
If all the Giants players played for the Yankees the article would talk about how brilliant the team is. How this team is ushering a new era in baseball, an era where pitching dominates the game because power hitters just can’t juice anymore. It would go on and on about signing great talent and having a farm system spitting out star players like Posey, Bumgardner, Wilson, Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez and Belt. It would praise the fact that we are stacked with young pitchers who have proven their durability while also providing a place where veterans like Huff and Burrell can recapture some of their prior magic. It would talk about how the Giants took all despite an injured Freddy Sanchez and slumping Panda. It would bring up the fact that Bumgarner and Posey where mid-season call ups and they are on an upward trajectory.
But, because we are the San Francisco Giants, all they can say is…they should have re-signed Renteria!
Regression
is mostly bogus when it’s predicted ahead of time. It’s invoked in inverse proportion to how well the commentor wants the player to do. No one is crying regression for the Phillies rotation or Heyward or any of the other awesome players the Giants made look bad last year. But Huff and the health of the Giants starters – obviously that can’t continue. Hell, why not assume Miggy will regress to the mean, too, and have a stellar year. Because, that’s why.
This torture tastes delicious.
I’m posting on the SweetSpot for Saturday.
My post? THE GIANTS WILL REPEAT, YOU ASS!
Not really, but that would be kinda funny.
Ask me about my blog.
Your response should be: "You know who wasn't in the 2010 World Series?"
The Red Sox and Yankees.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
“GIANTS WIN IT ALL”
And post it twice just to drive the point home.
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
bonds voicemails not usable by prosecution at trial
It should be noted that
Federal prosecutors Wednesday released transcripts of the messages, which they say demonstrate Bonds grew increasingly threatening and hostile as a result of taking steroids.
Clean athletes never get angry.
Documented fact.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
I was thinking the same thing
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
The prosecution has made this a personal vendetta. Their chances of prevailing are razor thin, so they’re using this as a way to smear Bonds as much as possible publicly. Asshats.
I USED TO NOT BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I believe that Greg Anderson’s refusal to flip has put sand in their metaphorical vaginas.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I love that there will be no backlash for releasing the transcripts.
“Oh we can’t use them, ok, we will just make sure the public gets them anyway”
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
In addition to the Parks and Rec news
Community has also been renewed. Hoorah!
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Huzzah!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Who cares?
If I want to watch an an old has-been yelling into the wind I’ll go down to the Tenderloin
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
THEY HAVE CHANGED THE MATRIX!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
YEESSSS
LEAVING FOR SCOTTSDALE IN 20 MINUTES
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
OT: RIP Michael Gough
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=31363
Dad of Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Me, too,
but it’s not letting me just post a dot.
by mrs. owlcroft on Mar 17, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Try a non-breaking space for true minimalism. & nbsp; (with no space between the & and n)
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
It won’t let you do that in the subject line, but it should be OK in the body of the comment.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
And let’s give up a dot or two for Marty Marion. My grandfather spoke of him often, for he thought him the most graceful fielder he’d ever seen. MM passed for a big shortstop in the day (’40’s/early ’50’s) at 6’ 2" and 170 lbs., but they say he gobbled up them grounders. Not much of a bat, though he hit some doubles, and in ’42 achieved a OPS+ of 102. According to Gramps, he went to the 5 hole like nobody else.
Died on Monday at 93. Mr. Jenkins might think that we do not respect the old players around here. He’s wrong about that, too.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Wins and losses are important
Example: Matt Cain
Clearly an average pitcher as indicated by his W-L records and xFIP.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
LOL - lame phishing
From the email address "Gmail Team <group.replyscs@gmail.com>" I just received:
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I think I should supply this information as quickly as possible, don’t you think? I hate to have “Permanently Lockup” Account.
I USED TO NOT BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I guess it’d be tooooo obvious if they asked for you SS#
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
I kinda feel left out that I didn't get an email.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
But it’s from the Gmail team! It’s like the G-Force team but with fewer capes.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
I almost posted the failmail I got yesterday
From: Mr. John Smith
Re: OPEN THE ATTACHED FILE IMMEDIATELY!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
No, this looks totally legit.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Reminds of the phishing scams I get from banks I don't even deal with
“update your account info” crap
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Greetings from toasty Scottsdale
Bruce Jenkins made himself look even more foolish, huh?
Also, what minor league team is PBF with a Cardinals-looking logo? There be a lot of their players hanging out at this Starbucks.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
by esseffgeez on Mar 17, 2011 2:15 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Peetbux
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Palm Beach Cardinals?
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Huh. I doubt a FL team would train here.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
I found a website for the PBF (Calgary) Redbirds.
Okay, now I really want to know. Ask one of them!
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
I’ll ask ‘em tomorrow, they’re all staying at our hotel apparently. They just got on a bus to play a Kansas City team? (dont quote me, i was eavesdropping).
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
Might be The Browns.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: Fan-dumb
Why don’t they make fans – as in “air circulation device” – easier to clean? Why can’t I just pop the thing apart and put the cage and the blade through the dishwasher? Why must it always include the use of 2 different types of screwdrivers and a box of bandaids?
FtF: Welcome to Opposite Season!
McC: Don't get it? Try the McWiki wiki.
We sports fans are also air circulation devices.
I want to clean my fan but I don’t see how to get at the blades.
Dad of Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
/fart joke
high colonic!
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
CLEAN YOUR PROPELLER!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 17, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Unscrew you!!!
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
The only fans I have are inside my desktop case. They were indeed a pain in the ass to clean until I started using compressed air.
by non sequitur on Mar 17, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Dyson says hi
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
IT'S A WITCH!
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
No, it’s a giant fan that doesn’t work.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve always wondered what shanghaijim looked like…
(my apologies to shanghaijim)
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
For 52 years, the world series meant something. So did the playoffs and knowing your roll . Now it all means nothing because a bunch of misfits are trying to reinvent the way you win a championship?
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Mar 17, 2011 2:25 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
How does one get to know a roll?
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
Do you knead more than one?
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
This kind of talk raises no good.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Use a testing kit….
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Mar 17, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Does anybody else miss Bruce Jenkins Boner?
For most of civilization, the Abe Lincoln meant something. So did the Fu Manchu. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of insane relievers are trying to reinvent the beard?
Fear the beard:
Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 17, 2011 2:29 PM PDT reply actions
Obligatory Space Opera Nerd Joke
For twenty-two years, the Force meant something. So did Lightsabers. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of Midichlorians are trying to reinvent Star Wars?
Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 17, 2011 2:39 PM PDT reply actions
For 12 parsecs, Victory-class Star Destroyers meant something. So did TIE Fighters. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of Lucasfilm ret-con nerds are trying to reinvent the Imperial Navy?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
a parcec is a unit of distance
ownage
Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 17, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
kidding, it was funny
Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 17, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought it was a play on Han Solo’s line about how the Millennium Falcon made the Kessel Run “in less than twelve parsecs”.
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
…
If I had lunch money, I’d beat myself up for it.
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Both are good points.
Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 17, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
OH SNAP
/McBain’d
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
For twenty years, being a bounty-hunter meant something. So did being a scoundral. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of nerdy CGI artists are trying to reinvent Han Solo shooting first?
Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 17, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I likes it
For 30 years, being a Yoda meant something. So did being a Sith Lord. Now it all means nothing because a plaid-clad nebbish is trying to reinvent lightsaber-less Force power duels?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
For a generation, kissing your sister meant something. So did saving your bro from the Sarlac pit. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of magic wand-wielding British wankers are trying to reinvent the fantasy love-triangle?
Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 17, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
For hundreds of millions of years having a two-chambered heart meant something. So did the absence of lungs or limbs. Now it all means nothing because some shit-stained foul-smelling sea creature got up and walked out of the ocean and is now trying to reinvent basic physiology.
by capn on Mar 17, 2011 2:41 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
lulz
best pejorative yet! I bow down before your vilification.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
/points and laughs
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Beat LA
Torres, Sanchez, Sandoval, Posey, Tejada, Burrell, Belt, Ross, Dirty
Yet another Miguel in the 5 hole. Belt gets to play with the big boys
big boys...
We need an A-team photoshop job done..
YES!!!
There may be remainders, mis-labeled products, or expired packages on this roster. Feel free to browse around the clubhouse, if you find anything interesting contact Brian or anyone else on the sales staff.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I want to hear Tom Waits take a crack at it.
by non sequitur on Mar 17, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
so political...
For over 60 years, the image of Hitler meant something. So calling somebody a Nazi. Now it all means nothing because a bunch small-government maniacs are trying to reinvent hyperbole?
Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 17, 2011 3:11 PM PDT reply actions
Theres a really big turkey in my driveway.
Carter Jurica!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 17, 2011 3:13 PM PDT reply actions
thanksgiving come early?
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Yep.
About 7 of them live along the American River Parkway and visit my classroom, which sits against the levy, on a regular basis. They are, indeed, big. I could take down one of them, but I don’t think I could take two.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of rosters and fowl, Did I miss part 2 of the Gallo story?
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
No. I blame Alex.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
He is irresponsible in that way.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks. I don’t get here every day for comments so I could easily miss it, or I was not sure I get the continuation with my ultra premium special lucky platinum McC subscription and would have to upgrade again.
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
I am grateful and humbled by your interest in that tale, fierrpawz, if that is your name.
I intend to produce a Part 2, but I’m easily . . . . look! a grub > > >
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
ah lurking here too I see.
My given name is Ken, but fierrpawz is an earned nickname.
Hmm… maybe I too should right a cliff hanger story and leave all in suspense.
It all started in college, on a Tahoe ski trip with 3 girl friends from college…
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
No, like REALLY big.
Carter Jurica!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 17, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
it look like this?
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
no
Carter Jurica!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 17, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
a-ha
This is why Rowand is not in the starting lineup! Whatever gets the dented cans onto the back shelf!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Where do stat lovers who hate Bruce Jenkins go?
Carter Jurica!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 17, 2011 3:32 PM PDT reply actions
I know there was a discussion about this the other day
But FanGraphs did an article about women in baseball. It mostly focuses on them in the FO though.
Carter Jurica!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 17, 2011 3:37 PM PDT reply actions
Aw, crap, I got caught up reading the comments.
I and my liberal arts degree are outraged.
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
So you’re saying I shouldn’t read the comments to this article?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
A lot of flippant comments and a few offensive ones.
And a lot of “If they could be, they would be already!”-type rationale.
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
I don’t know if you’re offended because you have a liberal arts degree and therefore are sensitive about gender inequality, or because you have a liberal arts degree and are offended by people who can’t read a couple paragraphs and understand them (i.e. the people who moan about how no woman could ever physically succeed in MLB when that wasn’t the author’s point).
4 8 15 16 23 42?
Carter Jurica!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 17, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Mud flap physique. Impossible and undesirable.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
You are so outdated. For decades, B/W/H stats mattered. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of geeky basement dwellers are trying to reinvent ways to measure a woman.
Today’s stats are A2H%/db/IQ210%. (Ankle to wrist ratio/decibel level/IQ to hotness ratio) Get out of the 20th century man.
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
the new Antlers album sounds pretty amazing
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
they performed (almost) the whole thing live at SXSW today
it comes out on May 10th, I think.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
REQUEST DENIED
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
WHY?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Genius.
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 18, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm far from being a SABR guy
And i think some of you go to far in these stats but Jenkins is an idiot.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Grant Bisbee is gonna be huge.
d_a_cameron David Cameron
One of the funniest takedowns of anewspaper columnist using the stupid mother’s basement shtick: http://sbn.to/hmt06u
You should probably use your real name soon.
Adopted Father of Marc Kroon. He better make the roster.
Oh. I clicked on that and had a brief moment of panic and confusion.
The confusion, it’s still happening.
"Never a doubt... never a doubt." - Aubrey Huff
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Beyond the Box Score picks up the Jenkins mess
Also they picked up the “Giants Won the World Series Because No Bonds” think from Gene Wo[deleted]:
Link
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I like that there are more orange shirts than green ones on the dancers.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
YAY!!!
They’ve renovated the Ahwahnee restrooms!!! Gads what a stench.
FtF: Welcome to Opposite Season!
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Hey, congrats Merope! You dudez still have to go upstairs though, amirite?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I did when we were there in December, I just heard the good news that the renovations were complete on the radio. For such a swanky swank hotel those restrooms were stinky-stank.
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For years, Mad Libs meant something. So did Choose Your Own Adventure books. Now it all means nothing because a bunch of blog entries by Grant Brisbee are trying to reinvent classical interpretations of copyright law?
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
Anybody seen the cat? I just realized she took off when I vacuuuuuuuumed the bedroom and haven’t seen her since.
FtF: Welcome to Opposite Season!
McC: Don't get it? Try the McWiki wiki.
Ah,
The Vacuum. The cat’s natural enemy.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Probably cowering somewhere under some furniture or in a closet if my cat is any indication.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 17, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Curled up on top of the snake’s tank near the heater… heat whore.
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Does your skirt blow up around your shoulders, much to your pleasure and obligatory embarrassment?
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 9:12 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
This was meant for El Person, up above the vent ^ ^ ; > .
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Mar 17, 2011 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Jenkins is a terrific baseball writer
Jenkins is a guy that goes more off feel than stats. His hyperbole notwithstanding, essentially all he is saying is that the traditional stats should not be ignored. And they shouldn’t. Jenkins would never be so stupid as to claim Cain, for example, is not a good pitcher because of his win-loss record. He would, as he has, find other explanations. There are always aberrations.
Baseball is a historical game. That history is part of its allure. Ignoring the traditional stats to an extent reduces the opportunity to use history as a guide.
I enjoy this board, although I lurk much more than I post. You have taught this older guy a bit about the sabermetric approach. Where I go off the reservation is when those defending the new stats do so by denigrating the old. To me they are both tools that we, as fans, use to evaluate.
But that’s not what he’s doing. He’s going out of his way to sling insults just to defend his castle. It couldn’t be more clear.
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 18, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Columnists hage to be provacative sometimes
I’ve corresponded with Jenkins for years and met him for a very nice lunch once. A good guy. Old school to the core. More of a “feel” guy then anything else. You see that on his pitch count stuff. Bruce has been railing against that for years. But remember when he was growing up watching games, pitchers finished what they started. Heck I bet he saw Nolan Ryan pitch a coupe 175 pitch outings.
So don’t take it so personally. Its just a different philosophical bent.
But he’s not being provocative. He’s being insulting.
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 18, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
“Jenkins would never be so stupid as to claim Cain, for example, is not a good pitcher because of his win-loss record.”
You’re giving him too much credit — he specifically says BA, W-L, and RBI used to mean something, but that statheads are trying to “reinvent” make the game, making it more complicated than it needs to be. Matt Cain is a losing pitcher — that’s what the W-L record he defends says. Nowhere does he mention context — you’re inserting that because it’s what you want to believe, not because there’s any evidence he actually believes this.
These “new stats” as you call them are what adds the context W-L ignored — not only does he not appreciate that, it’s the exact point he’s actually warring against.
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 18, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Lex:
I am a man of Jenkins’ age and a reader of newspapers. I remember Ostler’s first column in the LA Times, and I remember thinking that “this guy has some spark.” I was a junior at UC Irvine.
You are correct that columnists must provoke. That’s the nature of the job. Most of us on chat rooms like McCovey Chronicles have been guilty of voluntary provocation, and perhaps even 2nd degree inflammation. For better or worse, the blogosphere tends to protect us. I try not to post anything I wouldn’t put under my real name, but that’s me.
In his column last Saturday, Mr. Jenkins crossed a line of civility that even notorious curmudgeon Mark Twain rarely crossed. Twain usually understood the game, and I fear that Mr. Jenkins now doesn’t. Twain placed his harshest opinions in the mouths of obvious fools from both sides of an issue. He reserved brief space for the voice of reason, but it then seemed very reasonable. The middle ground usually appeared to be a good camping space.
I have urged Mr. Jenkins to retreat from his harsh polemics and gently learn the approach of his current opponents. Sun-Tzu posted that the warrior who knows his opponent is the stronger. Sun-Tzu meant that a combatant should know his enemy’s weapons, tactics, and strategies. If those are weak, or if the enemy’s own understanding is faulty, the combatant will prevail. Yes, this is a difficult course of study and it is best to have guides. Several books are available. Old guys like us don’t like to change. Yet, we must.
As a long time fan of this old school writer, I am sorry that he has adopted this losing tactic. It really goes beyond “philosophical bent,” and drifts into simple refusal to evolve. The joy of baseball rests in its continuity and in its evolution. I invite Mr. Jenkins to evolve and, as Alice says, “Join the dance.”
Consider it to be a quadrille. It involves an attempt to circle the diamond after hitting the ball squarely. Lewis Carroll, a mathematician, would have found it an amusing paradox. Quite correctly, his first question would have been, “What exactly do you mean by ‘it’?”
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Mar 18, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Jenkins WAS a terrific baseball writer...
His Zito article pretty much spelled the end. He should just pack it in and head for the North Shore for good.
The problem I have with some “stat guys” is they can only tell you what happened. They can’t tell you the why. They have no earthly idea what they’re looking at when watching someone swing the bat. Nor do they understand instincts. Does an outfielder get a good jump, take the proper route etc.. This why scouting is such an important part of the equation.
I seem to remember some “stat guys” insisting Fred Lewis was an above average outfielder. Funny stuff
THIS IS BULLSHIT.
WE ALL WATCH BASEBALL.
WITH OUR EYES.
IT’S WHAT MADE US INTERESTED IN THE FUCKING STATS TO BEGIN WITH.
WE UNDERTSTAND THE GOD DAMNED GAME.
FUCK.
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 18, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
That’s the thing, though. Not “some”. None. It’s a 100% complete fallacy.
Every single person who is interested in baseball is interested in baseball because they get pleasure out of watching the game. There is not a single person in the world who likes baseball because the numbers are so pretty.
When you’re looking at blogs, it may seem skewed sometimes. But I guarantee that if you sat down and watched a game with any one of those people who supposedly don’t understand the game outside of the numbers, you would be absolutely shocked by the rapture in their eyes when Buster Posey swings the bat, or their sheer appreciation of a smoothly turned double play.
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 18, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
And I used all caps only because I’m always so surprised that the “stat nerds don’t enjoy/understand the game” attitude even exists. It doesn’t even make sense to presume that a person who is obviously invested in the sport can possibly be so jaded toward the actual spectacle of the game. It doesn’t. Can you really justify the the thought that it does?
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 18, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow - how do you really feel!!!
I don’t think that the argument is that “stat nerds” don’t know the game. I think the argument, for better or for worse, is that some use stats as the be all end all. It’s just a matter of emphasis. Again, I like the old stats, the new stats and my eyes. Its all part of the process. And the arguments are part of what make baseball so fun.
I wouldn’t pay attention to anybody who doesn’t believe in the value of scouting (which is what using stats as the be all end all means). I also don’t think those people exist.
I think what happens is you visit a blog, where people are talking about things when the game isn’t being played. The blog is text-based. The easiest thing to talk about is numbers. Numbers are on your keyboard. The emphasis happens because it’s a lot harder and more time consuming to break down detailed scouting reports online. Scads of stats are available online within seconds. You can’t get ahold of video the same way. I can’t make a .gif of Nate’s swing and break it down by parts in less than two minutes. I can find his wOBA in a matter of seconds.
And at a place like McCC, where people typically want to make convincing, well-conceived arguments, it’s just easier to use the stuff that you can find in seconds than to perform much more time-consuming scouting processes.
The emphasis isn’t really a matter of what the people value. It’s just what ends up getting more play over here.
And even that doesn’t prevent a lot of good scouting information from out here. It just, I think, causes the skew in representation.
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 18, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re totally misunderstanding my point. I’m not questioning anyones ability to enjoy or love the game. That’s ridiculous.
I’m saying. Just because someone can enjoy the game and as you say, admire the swing of Buster Posey, doesn’t mean they have the ability to judge talent beyond the numbers.
Take Nate for an example. There are plenty of people that can’t figure out why his MiLB numbers don’t translate to the big leagues. But if you know what you’re looking at all it takes is a few clips of his swing to figure it out.
His swing mechanics and pitch recognition skills are terrible. You simply can’t drive the ball when your upper body ends up out over your front foot. He ends up reaching for pitches all to often. In addition, Nate doesn’t load his hips and opens them too soon. Not a good combo.
Put simply, he doesn’t have any leverage at contact. This results in lazy fly balls and topped ground outs.
And again, I’m talking only about “some” and I would never, ever question someones love for the game.
But it’s still a totally false dialectic. There are just as many “feel”-type fans who don’t understand any of the same things. You’re talking about pretty heavy observational scouting skills.
Your example is also flawed, since Nate’s MiLB numbers don’t actually suggest that he’ll be particularly good as a major leaguer, if you know how to interpret the numbers correctly. PCL. Old for the league. And his translated AAA stats (I can’t remember what they’re called) are pretty pedestrian.
But, to counter fairly, I’d point out somebody like Darren Ford. There are plenty of “feel” guys who wanted this kid on the roster last spring because they saw him during a two week hot stretch when he looked capable. In reality, he’s a terrible baseball player.
You can’t put the onus of advanced scouting on “numbers people” when the complaint really applies to fans at large.
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 18, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes. Those.
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 18, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
“There are just as many "feel"-type fans who don’t understand any of the same things.”
Agreed but we are specifically talking about some "stats guys’ in this conversation.
“Your example is also flawed, since Nate’s MiLB numbers don’t actually suggest that he’ll be particularly good as a major leaguer”
This was just an answer to a question I continue to hear. His MiLB numbers do suggested he’d be a helluva lot better than he turned out to be. I never saw Nate in the Minors but it didn’t take me long to figure out he was destined for mediocrity in the big leagues.
“There are plenty of people that can’t figure out why his MiLB numbers don’t translate to the big leagues.”
Who/where are these people? If there are “plenty”, I’m sure you direct me to where I can find them.
“His MiLB numbers do suggested he’d be a helluva lot better than he turned out to be.”
Not according to most around here. The vast majority of statheads I knew were of the opinion he was a bench player at best. It seems you may be inept at analyzing minor league stats as you imagine some statheads are at analyzing swing mechanics.
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 18, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
“Not according to most around here.”
what is it about the word “SOME” that seems to be so invisible?
1) Actually, I italicized the word some just to show you I did see it. I guess italics are invisible to you. 2) You didn’t say some anywhere in relation to the sentence I quoted, so now your argument is essentially "I said ‘some’ when referring to one thing, so that “some” now relates to any and all statements I’ve made in this entire thread".
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 18, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
“The vast majority of statheads I knew were of the opinion he was a bench player at best.”
You knew his MLB capabilities because of his Minor League numbers? Without ever seeing him swing a bat? Sure, OK, Just Great. My Congrats.
Basically you admit that without the numbers you have no clue. But with them you have all the answers? Get real.
Oh well, I knew it too. The minute I laid eyes on that swing. So at the end of the day we both agree. Nate is a mediocre player.
The stats don’t lie.
"The vast majority of statheads I knew were of the opinion he was a bench player at best."
You knew his MLB capabilities because of his Minor League numbers? Without ever seeing him swing a bat? Sure, OK, Just Great. My Congrats.
Reading comprehension fail!
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 18, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
“Not according to most around here. The vast majority of statheads I knew were of the opinion he was a bench player at best. It seems you may be inept at analyzing minor league stats”
Which implies I would have known Nate would be a bench player in the big leagues simply by analyzing minor league stats
and stop with the “fail” how old are you? 12
1) What I wrote regarding who I was talking about: “the vast majority of statheads I knew”. What you read: “I”
2) What I wrote about their stance: “were of the opinion”. What you read: “knew”.
3) What I wrote about how much of him they’d seen: Not a godamn thing. What you read: “Without ever seeing him swing a bat”.
If that’s not a reading comprehension fail, what would you call it?
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 18, 2011 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
“Which implies I would have known Nate would be a bench player in the big leagues simply by analyzing minor league stats”
I wasn’t implying anything of the sort. I feel like I know how to analyze minor league stats pretty well, and I had no idea what kind of hitter he’d be one way or the other — I knew he’d never walk a lot and that worried me, but I also held out hope he’d end up being Garrett Anderson 2.0.
What I was actually implying was that judging a player by analyzing his stats and doing it by watching him play both have merit, but neither is fool-proof — Willie McGee had the worst-looking swing I’ve ever seen yet won 2 batting titles, and Matt Holliday’s minor league stats were not at all promising yet he’s an all-star.
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 18, 2011 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, I’ll accept that you’re referring to a small percentage of the population. Small enough to be negligible.
I guess I just don’t understand why.
I have just now conceived of a world in which Barry Zito is Lestat. But who is Armand?
by howtheyscored on Mar 18, 2011 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
The problem I have with some "stat guys" is they can only tell you what happened. They can’t tell you the why. They have no earthly idea what they’re looking at when watching someone swing the bat. Nor do they understand instincts. Does an outfielder get a good jump, take the proper route etc..
You’re making quite a few assumptions. I’m a “stats guy” but I certainly recognize when a player takes the correct route, has awkward swing mechanics or has a pitching motion that could prove to be troublesome in the future. You don’t have to be a “non stats” guy to be able to see things like that. In fact, when I first started intensely following the game I practically memorized scouting reports. I moved on to the statistical side of the game because it can either A) confirm what we already know and put more precise value to it, or B) lend some insight into something that we THINK we see but isn’t really there.
Triples Alley: Analysis of the San Francisco Giants, Baseball, and Sabermetrics.
My mistake- but it doesn’t look like I’m the only one to miss it.
Triples Alley: Analysis of the San Francisco Giants, Baseball, and Sabermetrics.
Zito article was unusual for Jenkins
He generally is not one to stir things up. He had his source and I’m sure it was a valid one. I still wonder if someone was just trying to light a fire under Zito.
I do agree with you on the “stats uber alles” approach missing out on the “eye test”. Course I was the guy that started about a 5,000 reply thread last year when I (believe it or not innocently, I didn’t know much about the cite then) asked why Lewis got so much love.
stats are overrated in baseball more then any sport
it’s all about personalities
the cult of personality
Trade Sabean/jk...Overthrow the Ydorks...
I am not a "real" Warriors fan because I don't have season tickets.
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