Community Prospect List #31
by marcello on Feb 9, 2011 11:41 AM PST
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Tanner with the W (O/U on big league W's: 0.5). Here is our list so far:
1. Brandon Belt
2. Zack Wheeler
3. Thomas Neal
4. Gary Brown
5. Francisco Peguero
6. Brandon Crawford
7. Charlie Culberson
8. Chuckie Jones
9. Ehire Adrianza
10. Jose Casilla
11. Jorge Bucardo
12. Tommy Joseph
13. Eric Surkamp
14. Mike Kickham
15. Jarrett Parker
16. Hector Sanchez
17. Heath Hembree
18. Roger Kieschnick
19. Conor Gillaspie
20. Rafael Rodriguez
21. Seth Rosin
22. Jason Stoffel
23. Nick Noonan
24. Michael Main
T25. Brock Bond
T25. Jake Dunning
27. Chris Dominguez
28. Ryan Verdugo
29. Reinier Roibal
30. Clayton Tanner
For #31, we have the following options:
Dan Burkhart - FYI, the first link has his age wrong, it's right in the 2nd link
Each player should have a link to Baseball Cube in their first name and a link to FanGraphs in their last name, unless one wasn't available. The poll will close Thursday at noon, unless it's clear enough to call before then.
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Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Brandon Allen
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
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Jacob Dunnington
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
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Kendry Flores
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
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Ydwin Villegas
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
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Armando Paniagua
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
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Julio Izturis
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Jose de la Cruz
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
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Leonardo Fuentes
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
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Chris Lofton
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
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Matt Graham
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
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Ryan Cavan
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
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Edwin Escobar
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
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David Quinowski
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
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Devin Harris
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Marvin Barios
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
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Brett Bochy
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Bryan Salsbury
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
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Sundrendy Windster
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
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Carter Jurica
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
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Simon Mercedes
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
by marcello on Feb 9, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Ryan Rohlinger
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by GiantPain on Feb 9, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Does Ryan belong on the prospect list still? And if he does, doesn’t he kinda belong higher than 30 with his AA/AAA wOBA above .375 and ability to back-up MI?
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by kennv on Feb 9, 2011 4:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This.
Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010
by j14 on Feb 9, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
I think he's still eligible
And probably yes to your 2nd question. I actually wouldn’t have minded him as the starting SS instead of signing Tejada, although I can sort of see why that wasn’t an option.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
As far as I know he's still rookie eligible
Which I thought was the qualification for this list.
I guess everyone at MCC just kinda forgot about him.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I believe Rohlinger is not rookie eligible at this point. He’s under the Games played and AB limits for a rookie, but there’s also a service time codicil of the rookie qualifications — they can’t have been on the active roster during the period of 25 man limits (i.e., not counting September) for more than 45 days in previous seasons. I assume that this is cumulative (like all the other qualification limits) and if so, Rohlinger appears to have somewhere in the neighborhood of 52 days of major league service at this point which would put him over the edge.
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My official rule is that when the team calls up a guy and my first thought is “Him again?” then he’s no longer rookie-eligible.
Less jargony, but cuts right to the heart of the matter!
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That said, I’m really hoping Rohlinger is the 24th or 25th man on the roster this year. I don’t believe they’re going to go into the season with Fontenot and DeRosa as their backup SS options, and if it comes down to Rohlinger vs. Burriss, he’s the clear winner to me. Heck if it comes down to Rohlinger vs. Nate, I think Ryan’s probably the winner for me.
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Cool, sounds like he's not eligible
How did you figure out the 52 days?
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Even if he is still technically a rookie
Rohlinger has been up and down for three seasons and seems more like a veteran now, so I hope he isn’t put on this list if for no other reason than if eligible, he should rank much higher. Its almost not fair to include him as an “oh by the way, guess who we forgot about” vote competing against the unknowns that are left. Maybe at the end of the list, we can have a special “where would Rohlinger be” vote to see where he ranks.
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by crazedcrustacean on Feb 10, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Steve Edlefsen
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I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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by Gobroks on Feb 9, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Hector Correa
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Blog: GMPotential.blogspot
JCP
Burkhart or Monell next. I was leaning Burkhart, but then I realized that Monell is Burkhart with four years of success behind him. A good year in AAA could give us our very own David Ross.
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Completely agree with this
Although, to be fair, Monell has nowhere near the defensive reputation that Burkhart does. But he’s probably being underrated here.
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If Burkhart is the better receiver (and he certainly seems to be), I’d take him over Monell. His brief season at S-K was slightly better than Monell’s in 2008, though Monell was a year older at the time.
Monell’s yet another guy whose SJ stats look nice till you check out the K/W.
Monell's season looks actually pretty similar to his 09 season
Except his SLG and K’s went up. I know Correlation != Causation, but I do wonder if he tried to sell out for more power which helped cause the increase in K’s
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I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Blog: GMPotential.blogspot
Not me
Burkhart is the better prospect. Three years younger, better defender, and equal batting average bat. I wouldn’t be shocked if he shares the San Jose job with either Sanchez or Joseph.
Concerns about Monell – Not added to the 40 man roster and he was not invited to major league spring training. His Winter stats were not good either. He is kind of getting the Brock Bond treatment from the Giants.
With all that said, Monell’s left handed power bat puts him close behind Burkhart on my list.
Going Monell again
Good hitter, premium position etc
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I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Twiitter: @gobroks
Blog: GMPotential.blogspot
He’s shown good OBP skills and has good game speed and I believe good D. He was the MVP of the DSL two years ago when he really did seem to walk off the island with a .466 OBP. His biggest problem is, of course, that he’s been quite old for his level the last couple years and will always be even if they move him straight to Augusta this year.
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What about Justin Fitzgerald, Craig Westcott or Nick Liles? Curious as to what folks think about them as each of them put up decent numbers in the lower minors but I’ve never seen any scouting reports on them.
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by crazedcrustacean on Feb 9, 2011 2:11 PM PST reply actions
Westcott is the best of the 3 IMO
I think he could be added. As for scouting I’m not sure exactly what he throws.
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I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Twiitter: @gobroks
Blog: GMPotential.blogspot
He did get tatttood a bit in AA. Still getting to AA rotation in his first full year was quite an accomplishment, especially for someone who hasn’t pitched much. Fla-Giant seems to think his velocity is much higher than I’ve seen it reported elsewhere, so I’m not sure what the story is there. His K rate sure took a huge nosedive in the transition from short season ball to A+ and AA, though.
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Liles would be interesting as a 2nd basemen
But even then, his hitting would still be a notch below Cavan, who has yet to make a poll.
Note the lack of a hyphen.
I have to imagine he’s a bit younger, though.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 9, 2011 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
Goin past 30?
I’m impressed. Don’t hardly know anything about any of em past #10.
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Burkhart
Because, why not?
Quietly hoping Brandon Belt develops into John Olerud, circa 1993.
by AndOnTheDrums... on Feb 9, 2011 2:51 PM PST reply actions
Holy Crap.
I don’t know any of these people. I choose to abstain.
Looks it might finally be JCP’s day!
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by Giant among Angels on Feb 9, 2011 6:26 PM PST reply actions
JCP
And I’m too tired to explain. Gotta be up at 2 AM.
But I’ll say this…in the draft, he was known for his power…..but this season he could be defined by his speed.
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At this point, I’m mostly just interested in the high-upside foreign signings: Leonardo Fuentes and Marvin Barrios. Maybe Armando Paniagua from the AZL or Ydwin Villegas from the SAL.
Foreign bias
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—Rogers Hornsby
I'm generally with you
But I haven’t heard much about Armando Paniagua at all, so I’d like to get a scouting report before throwing him in the mix.
And Villegas had a TERRIBLE year. He’ll probably repeat Augusta, and I hope he rebounds, but… yeeesh…
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I did see a report that Paniagua was throwing 94-95 last year in the AZL. I think that came from Sickels, but I can’t put my finger on the right spot in my brain just right now.
Villegas was pretty awful last year. Probably will be starting in Augusta again this year. Still young though. A worse hitting Ehire? Let’s hope for a rebound. The organization likes him enough that they played him above minor Izturis when both were in the AZL and then promoted him to full season ball above Izturis as well, though Izturis has always been the better offensive player.
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I’ve heard that Villegas’ defense is good enough for him to stay at SS, but nowhere near Ehire’s. He’s going to have to develop a LOT at the plate. Worth keeping an eye on, though, because, as you say, he’s young.
Didn’t realize that Paniagua had such a good arm…
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Yeah, I didn’t mean to suggest that Villegas was regarded in any way similarly to Adrianza defensively. Just noting that at the moment he’s vastly inferior to Adrianza both offensively and defensively, which truly isn’t much of a prospect. Although at #31 not much of a prospect is pretty much what we’re looking at. I think the distinction at this level is between guys who aren’t much of a propsect and aren’t likely to change that perception next year (the Nick Liles sorts) and the guys who we think have a chance to take a developmental leap in the coming year. Villegas at least has the age going for him that you could sort of squint at him and see that. Same with some of the young arms.
Of course, saying all that I voted JCP, as in fact, I have for each of the last three spots.
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don't get mad, but maybe similar to the way I used to vote for Eugenio
speeeeed! Vroooom
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