2011 Adoption Draft: Draft Order with a Poll
by free f.p. #14 on Feb 28, 2011 2:56 PM PST
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PrintAfter some fine discussion in the last thread about rules and such, we have a draft order. Here's the formula I used to create draft points, based on a suggestion by Fla-Giant and nvsfg:
DP=#comments + (20*#months of membership) + (35*#fanposts/shots)
I probably made a few mistakes with length of membership and stuff, but to be honest I don't really care and I'm not going to go back and fix them. This is an adoption draft, after all.
Also, people who voluntarily threw their adopted Giant back were not compensated. Only those that were lost in FA or trade (like John Bowker or Matt Downs) were compensated with elevated draft position.
The question now is, when should we start this bad boy? As soon as possible? After ST so we can see who's making the roster, and we have somewhat of an idea as to where people will be starting out their seasons? That's where the poll comes into play. Vote below for your favorite option.
Oh, that's right. Here's the draft order:
- scout6
- cornball
- nvsfg
- rightcenterfielder
- quincy0191
- Little Napolean
- Desert Fox
- jcb9
- PiKAgiant
- Gobroks
- say hey nation
- Graham Crakalaka
- baetown415
- sanfrankid
- j14
- DFARowand
- Fla-Giant
- Giant Torture
- TGOH
- waffles
- kezargiants
- foothillfan
- TimLaserandMattyC
- Ceora
- Lies and Perfidy
- The Enchanter
- operation carrot
- imovermyhead
- capnk
- druncan
- OmahaGiants
- waelwulf
- bombs
- bruddah
- atxgiantsfan
- Nnamdi Asomuagh
- garbanzo24
- malarky
- YoMamaisaGiant
- free f.p. #14
- deluzian
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I’m assuming < gasp > that you used the “date joined” info from McC specifically?
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I tried
but I may have messed up a few. So sue me lol
San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
Buster Posey: 100% ballplayer, 0% bullshit
by free f.p. #14 on Feb 28, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
Woohoo! The trade deadline is fast approaching. I’m now open to trade-up/trade-down offers for my #16 slot.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Oops. Looks like I got knocked back to #17 by the addition of cornball.
Looks like there are more and more members coming out of the woodwork wanting to join the draft now. This is probably another good reason to delay the start for at least a few more days. It would be nice to get everybody involved that want to participate – and I say this knowing that I could easily get knocked down a few more spots with more participants joining in.
BTW, where’s Roger? I’m real surprised that he’s not interested in this, given his level of interest in the prospects.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Roger has Jorge Bucardo
And will likely hang onto him for a while.
Aaron King, please pitch better.
McC Wiki - for all you newcomers out there.
I know I haven't been around much
But how did I miss this? I’d love to get in on this again. I had YEAH JOEY and am in search of spawn.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
you're in
2nd overall, too
San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
Buster Posey: 100% ballplayer, 0% bullshit
by free f.p. #14 on Feb 28, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, when did we do signup for this?
I was unable to get online at work today; would love to get in on it.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 28, 2011 4:17 PM PST reply actions
you're in
San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
Buster Posey: 100% ballplayer, 0% bullshit
by free f.p. #14 on Feb 28, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
ASAP
The sooner we get it rolling the faster it will be done. Hell I can make my pick right now if you want.
Waiting for the next adoption draft...my son was killed in a horrible FA transaction.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
I lost my son... Am I too late?
I’ll stop lurking once the season rolls around. Pinky promise.
My son: actually Jose Guillen?! I guess all along, the enemy... was me.
i’ll add you tonight
San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
Buster Posey: 100% ballplayer, 0% bullshit
by free f.p. #14 on Feb 28, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously
I can pick right now.
Waiting for the next adoption draft...my son was killed in a horrible FA transaction.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
As could I
/ thats two of the top three. Just look at my sig.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
Is it too much of a pain to join the draft just to see where I would be picking? I could then decide whether to throw Jon back in an informed manner.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 28, 2011 4:55 PM PST reply actions
Not without some serious incentive…
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 28, 2011 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
Seems like you could trade with somebody for a good spot. I’ve got to believe that Jon Miller is a very popular adoptee.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I actually am mostly just curious about where I wold fall on the list but I’m too lazy to figure out everyone’s score.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 28, 2011 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
I haven’t done the math but I believe you would be somewhere between 10 and 15
San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
Buster Posey: 100% ballplayer, 0% bullshit
by free f.p. #14 on Mar 1, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
actually pretty far from it.
Waiting for the next adoption draft...my son was killed in a horrible FA transaction.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
I got some work to go do
but I will be back tonight. And we could start the draft tonight if we wanted.
JUST SAYIN’
Waiting for the next adoption draft...my son was killed in a horrible FA transaction.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
by scout6 on Feb 28, 2011 5:18 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Yes
Please lets start tonight.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Since we can’t have kids of our own Mr. Merope and I will draft this year – if it’s not too late to be added, that is.
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Wow.
My draft position is better than I expected. I might actually get someone relevant this year.
"Just another ahahahaha... laugher."
Yea, screw it, ASAP
Whatever happened to Brock Bond, with his .311 BA? Oh well, sigh, always goin to be my adoptive son!
11/1/2010 if you dont know what occurred on that date, we got issues.
I am back.
We could so do this. Right now.
We could do it. All of us.
Waiting for the next adoption draft...my son was killed in a horrible FA transaction.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
I’ve been trying to think who you’re so excited to draft. Now that I’ve seen the list of available players, I’m guessing that it’s Cody Ross, although it could be Santiago Casilla. If you’re a prospect hound, then I’m guessing you like Gary Brown.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Aside from already knowing who I want
It’s more the fact I was part of the draft last year slotted in the bottom of the draft. It took over a month to complete the draft. I want to get it rolling so people are not waiting forever to get their pick.
This is not really rocket science, it’s a fake adoption draft. I don’t think we need to put it off for the weekend to start it.
Waiting for the next adoption draft...my son was killed in a horrible FA transaction.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
I think that we can start tomorrow. By that time all of the stragglers will have had enough time to chime in. A noon start might work best. I don’t think the process should take more than 2 weeks this year, don’t you think?
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
God I hope so.
Waiting for the next adoption draft...my son was killed in a horrible FA transaction.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
Hah!
My first guess was spot on! Nice pick getting Ross the Boss. I actually had no idea who you would pick, I just went with who I would most likely pick if I was in your spot – based on the available players.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
this is soooo friggin cool. I can't wait for this.
This is the first time I did one of these so excuse my ignorance when I ask how we are supposed to know which players are available. Will their be a list or something?
by Nnamdi Asomugha on Feb 28, 2011 11:55 PM PST reply actions
i know that im late but i would love if i could draft this year. Thanks
"Why is no one hugging me right now?!"
-Sergio Romo
Fringy Prospect Here I Come!
Looking for someone toolsy at pick number 18, but if anyone wants to trade down in exchange for me rec’ing all of their posts for the entire year, let me know. Also, if someone wants to rec all of my posts I might be willing to trade down.
Brandon Belt, "HE'S GOT THE POWER!"
Hah
I’ll be taking the last of the fringy prospects one pick ahead of you at #17. Be prepared to be stuck with somebody no longer in baseball or no longer considered a prospect.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
What?
Are you trying to tell me that Thomas Neal won’t be available at #18? I’ll be adopting Will Clark anyway, I’m sure he’ll still be around.
Brandon Belt, "HE'S GOT THE POWER!"
by Giant Torture on Mar 1, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
I swear to god, if people start rec’ing someone’s posts for an entire year because of some lame pretend draft pick trade, I’m gonna start kicking some asses.
I USED TO NOT BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
What exactly would be the benefits of trading down?
Other than thinking your guy won’t be drafted, what is the incentive? Is the other poster supposed to back you in arguments or something?
Waiting for the next adoption draft...my son was killed in a horrible FA transaction.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
Mostly just for the fun of it. I thought that trading would add a layer of intrugue and interest to something that is just a one-trick pony show. Trading for shadowy “future benefits” could lead to some funny exchanges down the road.
The other reason that I suggested it is that I could see that the guys that I most want to adopt could easily be gone by the time that I draft. I would be willing to trade down, at that point, with another member that really has their heart set on somebody that is still available.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I suppose that’s all well and good, as long as lame post rec’s aren’t among the shadowy future benefits.
I USED TO NOT BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Nah, that was just a joke on my part – I was serious about the rugged good looks compliments though.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Don't go all bondslegend now
or do, that would actually be kind of funny. Maybe I will pick one random person and rec each and every one of their comments all season long just to see what happens.
Brandon Belt, "HE'S GOT THE POWER!"
by Giant Torture on Mar 1, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
I’ll swap my 35 for your 18 and I can’t rec all your old posts but I will laugh whenever you say something and I have a couple months credit on my MCC Premium account left, just saying.
I have seen the future of rock n' roll, and its name is Buster Posey.
"Practice is a crutch for the talentless."
by atxgiantsfan on Mar 1, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
Sorry
Already have McC Premium, now if you had McC Platinum we might talk.
Brandon Belt, "HE'S GOT THE POWER!"
by Giant Torture on Mar 1, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
Draft will be starting as soon as I can add the new people
I’m in class right now but I get out in an hour. I will add the new people as soon as possible and then we will get this show on the road. Full list of rules, links to Giants rosters, FO people, etc., will be included in the next fanpost.
Let’s do this
San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
Buster Posey: 100% ballplayer, 0% bullshit
One quick thought
When the actual draft happens, it needs to be kept extraneous comment-free. Simply, whose turn is up and that person’s pic. Otherwise, it’ll get out of control quickly.
The thong is, it happened.
I agree
but I’m not a moderator, so I’m not really sure how to enforce this.
San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
Buster Posey: 100% ballplayer, 0% bullshit
by free f.p. #14 on Mar 1, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Ridicule
That and by stirring up the anger of the mob….or you could just ask a mod for help.
Brandon Belt, "HE'S GOT THE POWER!"
by Giant Torture on Mar 1, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
so I’m not really sure how to enforce this.
Hire jponry. That should take care of it. That woman does not play :-)
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
I'll go in as often as possible and delete posts
…but put something in the instructions on your original post
The thong is, it happened.
Definitely.
Waiting for the next adoption draft...my son was killed in a horrible FA transaction.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
You people have pictures of me???
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
I really should have read that terms thing before I clicked the join button.
Seth Rosin can hit the side of a barn with a baseball. From space.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
DRAFT HAS STARTED
San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
Buster Posey: 100% ballplayer, 0% bullshit
Thanks for doing this!
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Damn
Chuckie Jones and Seth Rosin just went off the board. The odds of me trading down from the #20 oick just went way up.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Picking Rosin was really your fault. If you hadn’t done all that work telling me about him I probably would’ve drafted Parker.
Seth Rosin can hit the side of a barn with a baseball. From space.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
Only myself to blame?
LOL. I’m probably also largely responsible for Chuckie Jones going off the board so quickly after my glowing fanpost from a couple of months back.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Apologies for cluttering up the official adoption thread with comments.. I read threads #2, #3, and #4 but had missed number one. As a suggestion, it might be helpful to link the other threads and the already adopted spreadsheet on the official thread. Feel free to delete my comments there.
Proud father of Barry Bonds.
No worries
You weren’t the 1st, and you won’t be the last. Goofus will delete your posts the next time he takes a look.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
As it turns out...
Some of those links were hidden in the body of the post. I always fall for that trick.
Proud father of Barry Bonds.
List of Available Players
In the interest of making things easier for all of the upcoming drafting members I compiled a list of available players.
I broke it up in several different levels, but mostly by the league the players last played in. Each separate category are listed in alphabetical order, with the prospects that I think are the most interesting listed with an asterisk after their names.
>>> On Current 25 Man Roster <<<
Santiago Casilla
Mike Fontenot
Ramon Ramirez
Miguel Tejada
>>>> Non-Roster Spring Trainee Invitees <<<<
Casey Daigle
Brad Eldred
Terry Evans
Marc Kroon
Guillermo Mota
Jeff Suppan
Ryan Vogelsong
>>>> Highly-rated minor league propsects <<<<
Brandon Allen
Brett Bochy (tommy john surgery)
Ryan Cavan
Jake Dunning
Jacob Dunnington
Edwin Escobar
Kendry Flores
Leonardo Fuentes
Matt Graham
Stephen Harrold
Heath Hembree
Julio Izturis
Carter Jurica
Mike Main
David Quinowski
Reinier Roibal
Hector Sanchez
Jason Stoffel
Jose Valdez
Carlos Willoughby
Sundrendy Windster
>>>> AAA <<<<
Brad Boyer
Justin Christian *
Tyler Graham *
Brian Lawrence
Daryl Maday
David Mixon
Craig Whitaker
Matt Yourkin *
>>>> AA <<<<
Michael Ambort
Mike MacDonald
Felix Romero
Sharlon Schoop
Jake Stevens
Clay Timpner
Craig Westcott *
>>>> A+ <<<<
Brian Anderson
Drew Biery
Jose Flores
Kelvin Marte *
Josh Mazzola
Dan Otero *
Andrew Romo
Ari Ronick
Michael Sandoval
James Simmons
Eric Stolp
Joel Weeks
Kyle Woodruff
Christopher Wilson
>>>> A <<<<
Dan Cook
Hector Correa
Chris Heston *
Brian Irving
Jason Jarvis
Mitch Lively
Ryan Lollis
Bryan Salsbury *
Jeremy Toole *
Kyle Vazquez
>>>> ss-A <<<<
Jeff Arnold *
Daniel Brock
Wilber Bucardo (lost 2010 season to injury)
Alex Burg
Raynor Campbell
Kaohi Downing
Adam Duvall *
Devin Harris
Aaron King
Devan Kline
Cameron Lamb
Mike Murray
David Newton
Mario Rodriguez
Taylor Rogers
Ryan Scoma *
Stephen Shackleford
>>>> AZ Rookie <<<<
Andy Altemus
Ryan Bean
Gus Benusa (lost 2010 season to injury) *
Ryan Bradley
Mark Christman (tommy john surgery)
Jose Cuevas
Brice Cutspec
Jose De La Cruz *
Austin Fleet
Bobby Haney *
Wes Hobson *
Ryan Honeycutt
Rafael Martinez
Raymundo Montero *
Luis Munoz
Leonardo Ochoa (lost 2010 season to injury) *
Armando Paniagua *
Carlton Salters *
Gaspar Santiago *
Stephen Shackleford
Jake Shadle
Joe Staley *
Jason Walls
>>>> Dominican Summer League <<<<
Luis Angeles *
Marvin Barrios *
Gabriel Cornier *
Keurin Feliz
Victor Feliz
Miguel Ferrer
Jesus Galindo *
Bertoni Garcia
Ariel Hernandez *
Lorenzo Mendoza
Simon Mercedes
Shurendell Mujica
Franklin Noel
Juan Nova
Cristian Paulino *
Fernando Pujadas *
Alberto Robles
Luis Vasquez
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Oops
Scratch Ryan Cavan and Willie Mota – they’re already adopted.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Carlos "The Jackal" Willoughby is now off the board
Nice choice, j14
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I just saw that Juan Ciriaco opted for free agency.
Is it okay to ask for advice in this thread?
Look out. I'm having a thought.
Sure
Ask away. Just take any advice you get with a grain of salt.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Jeremy Toole and Tyler Graham are interesting, but I have a feeling about Ryan Scoma.
Thing is, Scoma hasn’t been around that long and might come to naught.
I’m new to the MiLB thing and I don’t have much confidence;
Information is hard to come by.
Look out. I'm having a thought.
If I had to bet I would say that Graham is most likely to be the one to spend more than 2 seconds in the major leagues – probably not with the Giants. He has 2 tools (speed and defense) that are above-average at the major league level. Scoma and Toole both have a much harder road, and have been much more inconsistent. If I had to guess I would say that Toole has the better chance, since he can always slide into spot relief where his 1 above-average pitch (his FB) can be less exposed and there are always plenty of major league openings for.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Information is hard to come by.
Wait for the “Minor Lines” by Steve S. to start up here in April and you’ll get daily doses of info on our prospects. You can also do a search here on the MCC for the names that are of interest to you, to see what has been written about them in the past.
Also, check the blogs that are linked to on the left hand side of the MCC main page. Several of them have occasional info on the minor league prospects. Dr. B who writes the “When the Giants Come to Town” blog did a whole series of the top 70 or so prospects on his blog over the past seveal weeks. He has a lot of info to read.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Awesome… thank you.
Except now I like Scoma’s name and he’s an unlikely pick.
I’m such a dramatic fan.
You should see me at the track; it’s a disaster.
Look out. I'm having a thought.
Good thing you didn't take Scoma
I’ve had my eye on him, but I don’t pick for like 6 picks or so still.
San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
Buster Posey: 100% ballplayer, 0% bullshit
by free f.p. #14 on Mar 3, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
I'm now on the clock - now accepting trade proposals!
Anybody wishing to trade up into my spot at this time, please post your trade proposals now. Be creative. I’ll leave the trade window open until about 11:00 am California time.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I took Jake Dunning
Sorry, I’ll be away from my PC for about 4 hours, so I don’t have any more time right now to do the trade-down thing. I will conitnue to be open to trade proposals in the coming days to anybody that doesn’t like their available draft choices and would like to take Dunning from me. It would likely involve a draft-and-trade deal where I would instruct you on who I wanted you to draft and then we would trade our draftees with you ending up as Dunning’s proud parent. Just post your proposal below.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Looks like a run on relievers
Dunning, Dunnington, Casilla, and Stoffel went off the board almost in succession.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
So does anyone want to make a trade for Mike Krukow, who I just selected?
Brandon Belt, "HE'S GOT THE POWER!"
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