Power Ranking the Most Annoying Quotes From the Past Week
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 9, 2011 12:42 PM PST
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PrintYou know, you can probably skip this one. Especially if you're tired of McCovey Cynicals. I'm not a bitter guy, really! November 1, 2010! Tim Lincecum's two Cy Young's! Best ballpark in the game! Things could really, really be worse.
But for some reason, the Winter Meetings just annoyed the heck out of me. Here's a ranking of the ten most annoying quotes. Unless otherwise noted, they're all pulled from Extra Baggs.
10.
"The guys have been good. They know what needs to be done. And the way it works out, there’s comfort in Cabrera and Pagan playing for a contract. Then you have Huff, who has an option in his contract, and Freddy is a free-agent-to-be."
Oh. Contract years. Dayn Perry found there was a slight increase of production of players in their walk years, so it's not as completely asinine as looking at spring training performances, but it's still a silly way to justify standing pat. The Giants are hoping that the players who were bad last year are less bad -- that's the whole strategy. Expecting it in part because of their contract status is more ex post facto reasoning than anything.
9.
Sabean’s reponse: "I know what’s not percolating. We did not bid on the Japanese shortstop. Did not. N-O-T. Enough said."
Would have loved a "Nakajima" instead of "the Japanese shortstop." I'm not picky. Just a sign that Sabean kicked the right tires and did his due diligence instead of a, "Wait, they play baseball there? How adorable!" It's something that maybe came across in print differently than he meant it, but it was a deflating way to quash what had been the only exciting news of the week to that point.
8.
"I think we’re pretty well set in the outfield, to be honest," Bochy said.
Is Melky Cabrera, Angel Pagan, and Nate Schierholtz the worst offensive outfield in baseball? I mean, none of them are especially horrible, but as a group not one of them is really a threat to escape the orbit of mediocre. Wait, I haven't looked at the Padres' proposed outfield. And I think the A's have Ryan Sweeney, and only Ryan Sweeney, playing in all three spots as of now. So it's not the worst.
But, brother, it could use an upgrade. Suppose it beats the Roberts/Rowand/Winn outfields of yore.
7.
"We won the World Series," Torres said by phone from Puerto Rico. "How would I ever forget the Giants, the fans, all the people? I’ll always respect them and always thank them for everything. I always said I’ll put some part of the Giants in my heart."
This one's annoying because it chokes me up. MISS U ANDRES.
6.
If you think Matsuzaka is precisely Zito's equal and that Zito will get a $75 million, five-year contract, Matsuzaka would cost the same with a $25 million posting fee and a $50 million, five-year contract.
That's a quote from a Hardball Times article from early in the 2006 offseason. I just stared at it for a while with my mouth open, remembering that's what people though Zito was going to get. Therefore, it makes the annoying power rankings.
5.
First base could be a mix-and-match between Huff, Brett Pill and Brandon Belt. "It could play out in spring training," Sabean said.
Oh. Spring training. They give an award out, you know, to the young player with the best performance/attitude in spring training. No, really. It's called the Harry S. Jordan Award, and Belt won it last year. Then after two weeks of Belt struggling, the Giants ignored everything that happened in spring training because basing anything at all on spring training performance is luuuuuuudicrous.
Yay to the Giants for recognizing that. Boo to them for using it improperly to hose Brandon Belt early last year. Triple-boo to them for relying on spring-training battles year after year. Though we all remember how Joe Kmak really leveraged that spring award into a long career.
4.
Anything about Brett Pill starting
Again, I'm rooting for Pill. Rooting for him just as hard as I rooted for Dan Ortmeier. Putting those two names in the same paragraph is not something I did by accident.
3.
"How the hell can we not think we’re better than we were last year?" (Sabean) said. "From a health standpoint and a production standpoint, the law of averages will tell you we should be better in both areas."
Ayup. I understand the general sentiment -- the Giants were extraordinarily unlucky with runners in scoring position last season, which isn't something you'd expect to remain static. And Posey back will help. A lot.
But to see a GM completely defile "the law of averages" like that …. I don't know. It's like asking a movie director about Casablanca and having him say, "Never read it." Just feels like a part of a GM's job should be not to fall for Gambler's Fallacy.
2.
"We’re hoping like hell that Burriss can turn into the player we all forecasted him to be," Sabean said. "He’s doing all he can to be versatile. He’s in great shape. I’ll say this, he’s taking this very serious. He knows he has an opportunity."
Utility infielders often have weird paths to the majors. Ryan Theriot was pretty awful in the minors, but he carved out a perfectly acceptable career in the majors. That could happen to Burriss. I hope it does -- he's one of the more likable guys in the organization.
I just don't want to think about him being something the Giants are counting on. Keep it to yourselves, people. The whole best-shape-of-his-life thing: insulting. He's a longshot's longshot. He's a 25th-man right now, but only if you squint -- a Velez with functioning synapses. He should be treated as such. Which is to say, brought up as much as Matt Downs was a couple of years ago.
1.
"Being brutally honest, we pretty much got to the top of the budget," said Sabean, after a relatively inactive Wednesday at the winter meetings. "It’s down to Keppinger or Fontenot as the extra man."
This reminds me of the Michael-Tucker-or-draft-pick dilemma. Hey there, fellas, how about both? Slap a Giants' logo on some boxes of chocolates and have a fundraiser. I don't even want Keppinger back, and this quote annoys me. It's just so … final. It's like, how much more strict can the Giants get with their self-imposed salary cap? The answer is none. None more strict.
Came into the offseason hoping the Giants could re-sign Carlos Beltran, and now we're talking about Brett Pill, Manny Burriss, and not affording utility infielders. So it goes.
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Not sure about that, but the boredom is excruciating.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Dec 9, 2011 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
If I only had baseball, the lack of vocation would be tolerable. I’d probably get MLB on video, but that’s not an option. So, I’m shit out of luck.
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by gallo del cielo on Dec 9, 2011 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
The Burris quote is number one for me.
I don’t ever want to hear my GM saying “We’re really hoping for (this).” “Were really hoping for something that has no evidence it can happen.”
Carter Jurica!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 12:50 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
“We’re really hoping that a stupid decision we made doesn’t continue to bite us in the ass”
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
They’re hoping like hell. Like hell.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
I don't get that saying
The common use of Hell describes it as a destination or place rather than a person or other being that can think, and therefore, hope. I mean, you may as well say, “I hope like San Bruno that Burriss turns into the player we all think he can be.”.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
Also idiomatic is
“We’re hoping to heaven that Burriss can turn into the player we all forecasted him to be”
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
The goddess Hel was very optimistic.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Hell is also not a place one would think of as being full of hope.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 9, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
Actually
What would anyone need hope for in heaven? There’s a lot of hoping going on in hell.
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Hoping like hell...
Think of it in this manner:
Hoping like [a soul stuck in] Hell [for eternity].
For the puroposes of the saying, hell means everybody sent down there for eternal damnation. Back when the saying became common, hell was a very accepted and real deterrent.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
But the law of averages…
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by Soulbrother16 on Dec 9, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
Wait
Dayn Perry found there was a slight increase of production of players in their walk years
GP has said there’s no correlation so amny times I believed him. Now what?
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I think the key word here is "slight"
As in so small to be statistically insignificant.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
That's an extremely flawed study
Using a sample of just 212 free agents, arbitrarily decided by the studier, who identifies them as “Top” free agents. Pagan and Cabrera, undoubtedly, would not qualify for “top” status, and thus aren’t even the kind of players included in this study.
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I totally expected to see my name or GiantPain's name somewhere in this list.
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There had better be extensions for at least two of Lincecum, Cain, Bumgarer, and Sandoval this offseason. That’s the only thing that’s making me keep my chin up.
When’s the last time the Giants made a free agent splash, anyway? Like, for a player who was thought to be very good and turned out to be very good? Was it Bonds?
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Was it Bonds?
I don’t think pointing out that it was Beltran will help any of us feel any better.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 9, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Key words: "free agent"
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
:headdesk:
I’m an idiot.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 9, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
Quick! Blame day drinking.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 9, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
and Zito
both of whom led us to the World Series title
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
When’s the last time the Giants made a free agent splash, anyway? Like, for a player who was thought to be very good and turned out to be very good? Was it Bonds?
Depends on what you mean by “very good.” Maybe Ray Durham.
Also, again depending on definitions, maybe Ellis Burks. We originally traded for him, but then re-signed him after he’d filed for free agency. Ditto for Jason Schmidt.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 9, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
It was that time they signed Vladimir Guerrero to takeover as superstar from a fading Bonds. Luckily, it also meant Sabean didn’t sign a bunch of mediocre players like Michael Tucker.
So they would have had Bonds and Vlad
and 7 minor leaguers on the roster.
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You're joking, right?
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
I think he’s trolling us, at this point.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
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Why?
Where is the money to pay for the other players going to come from?
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Nope
If you are working within a budget and need to fill a 25-man roster. You can pay most of that money to one player (Vlad) and use league minimal players to fill the remaining spots or you can spread the money around and get cheap MLB players to fill the spots.
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Did I miss the part where Jason Schmidt, Ray Durham, Marquis Grissom, etc. get cut from the 2004 Giants?
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Explain.
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"So they would have had Bonds and Vlad and seven minor leaguers on the roster"
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Well of course they were other players on the team
it is a 25 man roster. But the choice would been Vlad and 9 league minimal players or the 10 players listed below.
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I posted this before
Vlad signed for a 5/$70 million deal with the Angel or about $14 million
AJ: 3.5 million
Tucker: $1.5 million
Tomko: $1.2 million
Herges: $1.1 million
Eyres: $1 million
Hammond: $1 million
Snow: $1.5 million
Feliz: $800K
Brower: $600K
Hermanson: 800K
Total: $14 million.
You also have to pay about $3.5 million on top of Vlad’s salary just to fill roster spots.
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First off
Vlad’s contract in 2004 was worth $10m, not $14m. Second, see my comment above
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Yes
just like Reyes’ contract is $10 M in 2012.
Even if you take that point, his $10 M plus the $3.5 M for the league minimal.
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Vlad was a sweet warrior prince. The verdict is out on Reyes for sure, but my prediction is sweet tears for the Marlins.
Correction
the list totals to $13 million.
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Savvy Sabes, is that you?
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It's not savvy
it’s just reality.
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So when Savvy Sabes says something like “If we signed Vlad, we wouldn’t have had [list of many, many shitty players],” you nod your head in agreement?
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Again…you can have Vlad but you would have to also put up with having 9 league minimum players.
I don’t nod in agreement, I realize that he is working within a budget.
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NEWS FLASH
All those guys sucked.
[Poorly Wrought THING] is what Brian Sabean would have made if he were a [THING-maker] instead of a MLB GM
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I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I think I would. I think it’s because I don’t think Lincecum wants to stay.
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No
I would never want to put up with his BS. Or have to read about it on this board.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
No
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If he didn't crater last year?
Then yes
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Yes
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Lincecum is under control for two years and will likely cost 40+ million over them
HanRam is under control for 3 for 46 million. Ramirez ~ 6 months younger. Plays a position of need and less organizational depth.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
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He likely won't stay at shortstop.
Which kinda calls the position of need thing into question. I hear we already have a pretty good third baseman.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I hear our second baseman is recovering from a season-ending injury or is AAA filler.
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Ramirez at 2B would not be a bad idea
He couldn’t possibly be defensively worse than Jeff Kent.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
2B would be good.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 9, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
Until he gets Nishioka'd.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I thought the reason Nishioka got Nishioka’d was that they don’t do takeout slides in Japan.
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They are much less aggressive about them; they are designed to throw off footwork without risking injury for the other player. That said, part of the reason Nishioka got injured is because his leg was turned at such angle that made him extremely vulnerable, one someone who is actually trained to play at 2B would probably never do.
My point, at its root, is that middle infield positions are not fungible because they cover roughly the same range. If I’d want Ramirez to play anywhere, it’s a corner, where his bat is significantly less valuable. Transitioning him to 2B is risky for a number of reasons.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
You could throw him out there for the next three years.
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position of need
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Doubt it, because in eyes of rival evaluators, Ramirez is not suitable for SS and he doesn’t have much trade value at the moment.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 9, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
I doubt our evaluators were included in Buster’s sample… we thought Tejada could play a suitable short
by Bochy's IT guy on Dec 9, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah but he's a douche
I'm just a simple Giants fan trying to make my way in the universe.
by Tim Lincecum's Bong on Dec 9, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
No
I suspect Ramirez’s attitude would be very difficult for the Giants to manage.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
No
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 9, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
Really?
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“Not even close” is a pretty bold statement. I’d do it, but I wouldn’t feel good about it.
by free f.p. #14 on Dec 9, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I can see arguments either way, but I think to say “not even close” either way is crazy.
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Ramirez is under contract for three more years ...
I’m not a WAR junkie, but Ramirez’s bWAR was lower than Miguel Tejada, Aaron Rowand, Brett Pill, and Mike Fontenot last year. Gamble that it was an outlier, and that he’ll be fine? Absolutely.
Use Tim F. Lincecum as the player you give up for that gamble? Aren’t enough "l"s in the world to write “aw, helllllllllll no” with the proper emphasis.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 9, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
Gamble that the fact that Lincecum’s K rate has gone down for three straight years and his BB rate has gone up for the same amount of time is an aberration/reversible trend?
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I'd rather have modest decline from 4.4 WAR.
Then count on rebound back from 1.3… especially noting that he loses a good deal of value as soon as you move him away from SS.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Ramirez only played ~2/3 of a season last year though
I’m not saying it’s good, but Ramirez’s bounceback will from a ~2 fWAR level, not a 1.3 fWAR level.
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
It went from historically elite to among the best in baseball.
It’s not like he went Zito.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 9, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
He ranked 22nd by fWAR in 2011
He’s still good. He is. But so is Ramirez, and they’ll basically cost the same, but you get Ramirez an extra year.
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But Ramirez isn’t home grown and a fan favorite. I don’t own a Ramirez jersey.
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I do not care.
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Then why did you ask me to vote?
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I didn't!
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I guess I must have interpreted this wrong:
Instant Poll time!!! Would you trade Lincecum for Hanley Ramirez straight up?
Yes or No
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That was Goofus.
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Wait, you mean Goofus and GiantPain are separate people? I’ve been getting them confused all this time.
I stand corrected. I am a bit distracted. I mean why am I expected to work on a Friday afternoon??
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Don't look here.
I’m at home cooking.
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My work parking lot is empty. I think we’re at about 15% staff right now. 3:30 pm.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
HAWT
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
All the McCoven look alike
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I have been unpacked.
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UNPACK UNPACK UNPACK
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LOL
Of all the people to mix up, you mix up us.
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I think it was because GP was advocating for that trade in the last thread.
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But so is Ramirez
That’s probably true, but you’re really underestimating how bad he was last year. And if he can’t stick at short, he just ain’t that good. Good, but not that good.
And you can’t focus on the Lincecum K decline without looking at Ramirez’s power decline.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 9, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
I'm focusing on both
They’re both good players who seem to be declining in ways that are kind of a bummer.
If you were asking me who do I think is going to be the better player from now on, I might even go with Lincecum. But the relevant concern here is who will be better over the course of their existing contracts relative to the amount of money they make.
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He wasn't "bad" really
Just average-ish (once you take playing time into account).
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
He was Freddy Sanchez making $15 million.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
His walk rate was absurdly low in 2009, when it went up in 2010, it was still lower than it was in 2008.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 9, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
This seems like an attempt to agitate GiantPain.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 9, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
I wasn't aware there was a different variety.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
OK, but
What if I told you it would be a Ramirez/Burriss platoon? That would make it more appealing, no?
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by GiantPain on Dec 9, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Burris would be the backhanded compliment in the platoon.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 9, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
Nope
And I’ll explain the comment I made in the last thread GP. First, HR has seriously erratic fielding numbers that I fear could stabilize on the bad side at any moment.
Second, his ISO has gone from .239, .201, .175, .136
his BABIP of .379 in 2009 is disguising a steady drop in WAR.
I think his BABIP will climb a bit from last year, and his ISO might as well, but I could see him being right around 3 WAR each year in the next 3. It wouldn’t surprise me.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 9, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
Lincecum has a stead WAR and peripheral decline as well since 2009.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Since 2009, yeah, not 2008.
And maybe it’s just homerism, but I feel like Lincecum has a better chance to hang around 4-5 WAR than Hanley does.
The biggest difference between Lincecum’s 2008 and 2010 was his HR/FB moving up to normal levels. In other words, Lincecum’s decline scares me, but I think there’s a better chance that the decline isn’t as bad as it looks.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 9, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
Because the difference between Ramirez and Crawford/Burriss will likely be greater than the difference between Lincecum and whoever else (Surkamp, Zito, back-end FA starter, etc.).
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
This was the main reason I brought it up
That, and because Timmy wants 8 years
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It’s not really clear what he wants. He said earlier this offseason that he is fine going year-to-year, or maybe every two years. I think the 8-year deal with an opt out “from his camp” is mostly setting the bar high, since the Giants will inevitably haggle them down.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
No
I would not send Timmy to a team that would demand he cut his hair.
#TeamLongHair
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 9, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
Nah.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
No
Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian
I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.
Hell No
Look at Hanley’s stats. He is clearly on a downward trend. Timmy is the best pitcher in baseball. Get him 3 runs, and he is unbeatable. Pitchers like that don’t grow on trees. I believe Timmy does want to stay in SF, I think he is just waiting to see if we can add some offense once the Rowand/Zito money is off the books. it doesn’t make any sense for him to commit long term at this point to a team that clearly doesn’t want to spend to add offense.
by Michael Mills on Dec 9, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
Timmy is the best pitcher in baseball.
I am a Tim Lincecum fan and this is not true.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
However!
Pitchers like that don’t grow on trees.
This is true! How funny would a tree full of pitchers look?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
The Livan tree would need extra sturdy branches.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
The Latos tree would be a weeping willow.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
It'd be a weping wilow.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
by speckops on Dec 9, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 9 recs
Can you imagine the tree that gave rise to David Wells?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
This tree would suffer from gout.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 9, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
This perhaps
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
Perfect!
Slap a 1927 Babe Ruth NYY cap on it and we’re done!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 9, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
Plus it would be covered in bright red flowers in the spring emulating gin blossoms.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
And it would buy everyone in the bar a drink!
(1998 World Series in San Diego so I’m told)
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 9, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
It would have to grew like huge potato plant. No other structural way to supourt the weight.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
/plants a Jennie Finch tree
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
If they grew on lemon trees, it would make making lemonade very convenient
You get your lemons and your pitchers from the same tree!
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NO
Because then we’d have a starting-pitching problem that, given our farm system, would have to be remedied almost immediately by an overpriced free agent starter. If the Marlins really want to get rid of Hanley, they can take something less shiny. Here, we’ll give you Nate and Burress. But then there will be money problems.
by Duelling Brandos on Dec 9, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
I think a back-end but not sucky FA could be had this year at a reasonable price
There’s a glut of 1.5ish WAR (or better) starting pitchers still out on the market right now.
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
No
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Dec 9, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sentimental to a fault
So no. No I would not. I won’t try to defend my position either, it’s strictly based on sentiment.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NorCal passion trapped in SoCal pain...
I wanna rage.
no sanks
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
No
/ stands at the back of the line waiting
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
No
An out-of-shape guy who was probably going to have to move off SS anyway and who has a very questionable work ethic? Yeah, I’m not so sure about that.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
Lulz.
Compare the yes/no ratio after Grant chimed in to the one before he chimed in.
"He forced it to go in the net, and that's a good thing." -Jerry Reynolds
"He's gonna get a big hug, and I'm gonna hang on for a while." -Duane Kuiper
Not fair! I answered before reading Grant’s answer!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
Am I
The only one who predicts/expects Freddy to completely crater next year? I’m talking .250/.290/.350, or something like that.
No, you're not.
But you’ll get chastised for being a pessimist. Shoulders aren’t necessary to swing a bat.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I think he's about as predictible as player can be
Don’t think he’ll crater
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His production might be, but his health status isn’t.
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You don't think a Sanchez injury is easy to predict?
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I expect he’ll be out for the season by the end of June. What body part decided to explode is kind of anyone’s guess.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Man, it’s gotten really dark here while I’ve been away.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
He went down for the season when he dove on (what looked to me to be) a completely routine groundball. That does not bode well.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
He also popped his meniscus fielding a lazy cutoff throw.
Then went on to play the last 5 months of 2010.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Has he ever played after a massive shoulder injury before?
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Plate appearances, by season
2005: 492
2006: 632
2007: 653
2008: 608
2009: 489
2010: 479
2011: 261
So, no.
by free f.p. #14 on Dec 9, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
Didn’t he have like 6 of them in the 2009 off season?
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 9, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
I thought those were arthroscopic knee surgeries?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
For such a "predictable" player
He certainly has massive injury problems and huge variances in year to year performance.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Freddy Sanchez fWAR since 2007:
3.2
1
1.9
2.5
1
Predictable!
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I was about to say
2 ± 1 seems reasonably predictable to me. He’ll be somewhere between a bench player and nearly an All-Star!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I just think he's going to get hurt again
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I don’t expect it to crater. He’s pretty darn good at the modest things he can do with the bat.
We may only get that for 14 games or so, is the thing.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
Golden Gate Beer Bars | Tweetybox
by troymccluresf on Dec 9, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
I shudder to think. . .
. . .what the off-season moves would be if they were drawing 15,000 a game, not raking in the TV $$$, and not selling a half-dozen Giants logoed items to every man, woman, child and canine in Northern California.
by betterthanbochy on Dec 9, 2011 12:57 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
“It could play out in spring training,” Sabean said.
Man, this takes me back to playing Franchise mode in Madden ‘99 back when I was 14. I would go through the offseason, putting my team together however I felt best, click through to the start of the preseason, arrange my depth chart, simulate through the preseason, and then go check out who won the game’s randomly assigned “positional battles”. I’d look at my depth chart and see that this 32 year old receiver at 78 overall beat out my first round pick 84 overall rookie for a starting gig. “Wow,” I’d say. “Screw that.” And then I’d make the better player the starter.
At 14, I was ignoring the preseason of the teams I was running better than the people who run the Giants.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2011 1:04 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
This is bad.
I’m so freaked out by the Giants’ SS situation, I’m agreeing to trade Lincecum for Hanley Ramirez.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
It is pretty bad.
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
I forgive you
but only because these Winter Meetings have been so sucky it would make anyone go a little nuts.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
YOU SUCK
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
“We’re hoping like hell that Burriss can turn into the player we all forecasted him to be,” Sabean said.
Giants baseball: Hoping like hell.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
It’s that astute scouting acumen in the comment that sells it
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 9, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 9, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
They also want Crawford to magically increase his BA to .240 by wishing it to be so.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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I hate Number 3 the most
That assertion was completely pulled out of his ass.
Also, I still miss Torres. :(
If only Zito had received a five-year contract
He’d be out of our hair RIGHT NOW.
Anagram of "SF Giants season" = GAS OF NASTINESS
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Dec 9, 2011 1:11 PM PST reply actions
But if Zito weren’t on the team, we wouldn’t have had the depth to trade Sanchez!
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
Yea we would have 18 mil to sign Buerhle
Why do my owners like profit>winning? Championships are the wealthy's bragging rights in Yacht rooms. #RDF can go to #!@%^
You can’t just throw the bullpen/centerfield money around like that.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
Starting pitchers do nothing for 4 days
Put them in CF and tell them it is fly ball practice, lazy bastards
Why do my owners like profit>winning? Championships are the wealthy's bragging rights in Yacht rooms. #RDF can go to #!@%^
Odd how prescient the Zito/Matsuzaka-comp turned out to be, though
Dice-K: 4.25 ERA in 622.2 IP for the Red Sox.
Zito: 4.55 ERA in 821.2 IP for the Giants.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
HOW MANY WINS?
Why do my owners like profit>winning? Championships are the wealthy's bragging rights in Yacht rooms. #RDF can go to #!@%^
I appreciate the Spinal Tap reference
Thank You. That is all.
Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.
Saean's "Did Not" about putting an offer on Nakajima reminds me of this
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 9, 2011 1:16 PM PST reply actions
This is my favorite movie of all-time. OF ALL-TIME.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
What is it?
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The Room.
It’s “Plan 9 from Outer Space” bad. So bad it’s good. There are various highlights on YouTube, including the scenes above.
YOU ARE TEARING ME APART LISA
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Oh, is that the one where people throw spoons during the screenings?
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
Ooooooh. The Room.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
and, yes, people throw spoons during screenings
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 9, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
there’s not a whiff of delusional fantasy at all in that comment. None.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 9, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
I wanna know who this "we all" is.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Sabean, Burriss… Burriss’ mom…
Is it February 19 yet?
by j14 on Dec 9, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
When I consider the bad soldier myth and the curse of the strikeout, Burriss strikes me as the perfect non-elite Sabean/Bochy player. He’s a good guy, does nothing but work hard, doesn’t complain about his demotions, is willing to play wherever they want him without question, and he does pretty much nothing but make contact with the bat.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
BA had Burriss as our 10th best prospect in 2008!
Just 3 spots behind Eugenio Velez!
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
When I type Eugeni… into Google, it suggests eugenics.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
In 2006
BP had him as our 4th best prospect
Has no power and likely never will, so he needs to continue hitting .300 and drawing walks to have offensive value
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
And then he didn't.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
If he just tilted that helmet back and let the pitchers see his eyes.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 9, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
In his defense he was pretty much brought up to the majors from the Sally league. He’s still never played in AA and was only in the Cal league for like a month one time (before being demoted to the Sally).
Not much defense for a kid I never believed in, but they certainly did everything possible to screw up his development.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
Other gems from that article
In a Perfect World, He Becomes: An old-school leadoff man/shortstop.
Gap Between What He is Now, And What He Can Be: Average. Burriss will play his first season at Low A, as coming from a smaller school he’s not as advanced as most college players. The Giants hope he’ll be a finished product by the time Omar Vizquel is finally ready to step down.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
Giants baseball: Hope like hell
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
Has the official 2012 slogan been released yet? If not, you might want to send that to the GIANTS BRASS.
Ask me about my blog.
Where does the term "brass" come from, anyway?
The nameplates on their desk or something?
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I believe it has to do with military insignia.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
I’m guessing it has something to do with the military.
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Military.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Dec 9, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 7 recs
I’m going to go ahead and rec this.
Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian
I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.
It’s definitely not military.
Probably from show tunes.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 9, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
Breathe, Relax, Aim, Sight, Squeeze (marksmanship Training)
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Chasm?
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
Whew!
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
If I’m not talking baseball, I’m probably not being serious.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 9, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
I think it’s a combination of braying and ass.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
No, that’s Kevin Millar.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
Military 109th Division
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 9, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
THey are all equally horrid
Maybe Beltran went to trade 3 players for 2, save money and say you are spent, so no Beltran.
Keppinger or Fontenot? Is that even a question? If Crawford fails, I don’t want another Ocab trade, I don’t want Burris and I sure as hell don’t want Keppinger out there.
Panik outhit Crawford in the AFL.
Burris, yikes
Lastly, what hurts the most if no real idea what to do with Belt. You either play him 140 games in the ML, or send him straight to AAA and wait for Huff to suck. One more 2011 is not what Belt needs.
Why do my owners like profit>winning? Championships are the wealthy's bragging rights in Yacht rooms. #RDF can go to #!@%^
I’m with you on most of this, but …
Panik outhit Crawford in the AFL.
Seriously, that’s an argument? Comparing 2 batting averages over less than a 2 month period? Panik also outhit Bryce Harper in the AFL, so I guess that means he’s better than Harper.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Love the Joe Kmak reference
He lived up the street from us, and his sister babysat for us once or twice.
He beat my brother out for a starting catcher job in American Legion ball….
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
Ramirez
Posey
Sandoval
Belt
I could live with that middle of the lineup. I would not be resigned to watching a long slow trudge of scoreless inning after scoreless inning if they happen to fall behind early. I don’t think that middle of the lineup would require 3 errors, a HBP, a passed ball and catcher’s interference to score a run.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 9, 2011 1:29 PM PST reply actions
FTFY
Ramirez
Posey
Sandoval
BeltPill
Why do my owners like profit>winning? Championships are the wealthy's bragging rights in Yacht rooms. #RDF can go to #!@%^
FTFY
Ramirezdidn’t hustle benching, Burriss
Poseyrest day Stewart
Sandovalbackup Burriss again, playing 2 positions
BeltPill
<3 Kanani Madison
Giants Baseball:
that got bad fast.
<3 Kanani Madison
by giant4life83 on Dec 9, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Game used merch release today: helmets.
Three Torres ones.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
I almost bought one to send to him to keep.
Then figured he might already have one. What do you folks think?
by mrs. owlcroft on Dec 9, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve been trying to think of something to do too.
I don’t know how that works with players, what they might keep or not keep on their own. I want to send him a thank-you of some kind too. Haven’t decided what yet though.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Giants Baseball: N-O-T
What the fucking fuck Sabean?
Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian
I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.
Soooo
How do you guys feel about the Matt Moore deal? I just with the Giants could be as smart about locking up prospects.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
Dark times lie ahead, harry
Soon we all must face the choice between what is short, and what is empty.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
GET OFF UR HANDZ GIANTS MILITARY BRASS!
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
Maybe we should just go ahead now and sign Blackburn, Crick, and Mejia to 10 year deals.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
He’s a decent quarterback, but I wouldn’t lock him up for too many years if I was the Dolphins.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
I'm envious
I love the strategy of locking up a really young guy for long and cheap, with lots of incentives. If it works you’ve got a fantastic value, if it doesn’t you didn’t waste that much money.
I can’t imagine how great this would be with a team that did it purely out of strategy and not out of necessity.
The first six innings are overrated.
AND it makes him easier to move in a trade to fill a different need later on
so envious.
The first six innings are overrated.
No, please
I’m glad the Giants didn’t lock Eugenio Velez up long-term.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Imagine if we had done this with Timmy.
or locked up Buster like Longo.
Dbacks getting Cahill?
You still going to sit on your ass and call yourself broke, Giants brass?
Proud owner of over 20,000 comments. (most of them in the wrong place) Oh yeah, and Buster Posey
They have 3 pitching prospects much better than anyone we have. They can do that.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
Cahill is being traded, and is only just going into his first arb year. That’s not a question of spending, it’s a question of depth.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Isn’t he on a long-term contract?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
So he is.
I was going off of Cot’s, which is out of date.
Still, the deal is very team friendly. Five years and $30 mil guaranteed (minus 2011), with two club option years valued at $13MM each. Loooooooots of team control, which was more my point about him entering arb years.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I could actually see them not getting much surplus value out of that deal.
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I think the idea is more to take an advance on the value. Win before the pitching declines and Upton gets old.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
...This sounds really familiar.
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...But I can't place it.
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Nope. No idea why they'd want to win now before a great asset declines.
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The issue with the Giants is
what do they trade? Most of the valuable prospects accumulated while being awful is already in the majors. The A’s and Diamondbacks, meanwhile, have a surplus.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Talent is talent. In the Giants’ case, I’m not advocating the trade market since as you point out, the cupboard is a little bare. But man, a FA hitter would look pretty nice to complement that sweet pitching staff.
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Yeah. It’s a very tough situation for the Giants right now. We continue to be laden with bad, bloated contracts at a time when all our top-shelf talent is due for a payday. There is enough wiggle room, courtesy of 2010, to secure some of those pieces long term, but not much room for anything else. After 2014, things should be easier, but who knows how many of those pieces will still be around, or who will be there to step in for them?
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I’m going to laugh/cry so hard when Beltran signs for 3/33.
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I will laugh when the Cardinals ask him to play CF again.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Holliday-Beltran-Berkman (I realize that he’ll play 1B, indulge me) would be an amazing combo at the plate and unbelievably lul-worthy in the field.
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Still
Craig would move to RF
lolololol
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Rosenthal says they're getting Breslow too
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That third one to me is the most annoying.
Law of averages? Really?
That’s how you run an organization?
/puts on tin foil hat
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Although, any GM who firmly believes that the law of averages means that good streaks are followed by bad streaks in order to even things out would have had that notion generously reinforced by the Giants previous two seasons.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
I guess I’m too damn cynical. To me 2010 was the law of “you got fucking lucky for 2 months”
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not that it wasn’t fun…
but I don’t know that you try to replicate that as a strategy
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Well, I mean, I agree with you. But I can definitely see a gambler looking at 2010 with no injuries and great performances and then looking at 2011 with dramatic injuries and awful performances and go, “Huh. Law of averages. What can you do? We were due.”
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Wait... so you mean to tell me TGWTWS, NOT because of Savvy Sabes' Savvy?
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they did but they got rid of the computers in a cost-cutting move. Something has to be sacrificed at the altar of utility fielders
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Like you just got snakebit.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 9, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
Great if Skaggs or Bauer is included.
Meh if not.
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but they just acquired an all star starting pitcher!
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A lot of people have PArker ranked higher than Skaggs, though.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
Oh wait
No they have Bradley over Skaggs. Holy shit the Diamondbacks system.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
Well
Bauer seems a consensus at 1, but after that Bradley, Skaggs and Parker are mixed around at 2, 3 and 4.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
Pretty ridiculous.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
But we have Gary Brown, around whom our team’s future plans need to be built!
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Gary Brown makes our outfield shenanigans even more confusing to me
Why not just keep Torres around another year to warm the seat for Brown?
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Pagan is a FA after this season, and we save money by not paying Ramirez. Pagan is more likely to pass for an everyday player.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
In a down year
Pagan had a oWAR of 1.9 and is 29.
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So trade Ramirez and Sanchez for a shortstop, which is way more of a need than CF was when we had Andres Torres.
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Like?
SS is a premium position. Teams with good SS are not going to give them up, especially not for Ramirez and Sanchez.
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We don't need a good SS
An average one would most likely be a bigger improvement over Crawford than Pagan is over Torres.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
Like?
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Clint Barmes would do wonders for this team.
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Not a trade candidate
and do not want for 5.25 million per year for two years. He’s 32 and has a career OPS+ of 78. Crawford in his first go around in the majors had a OPS+ of 66.
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If this team is really expecting that Brown will solve any problems in the future, they’re not doing their jobs.
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Yes, looking at your minor leagues and planning for the players there to be part of the team’s future is asinine.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
Looking at your Single-A team and expecting that is asinine, yes.
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Really
cuz Mike Trout, Heyward, Buster, and Belt were single-A guys before being brought up.
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Without checking, I'm pretty sure those guys beat the crap out of the ball in single A
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Actually, Heyward and Belt had played around 50 games in the upper minors before they were recalled. Trout had played in AA for half a season. Posey had played about 80 games at AAA before he was given a real shot in the majors.
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My point is that
you can look at your Single-A team as your future. It depends on the player.
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It's time to play guess the player!
A: .371/.445/.600 (168 wRC+)
B: .336/.407/.519 (140 wRC+)
Hint: both are lines from San Jose, but player A’s was in only about a month’s playing time.
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DING DING DING
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Why would it?
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Because the level of play in college is really low?
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Because he's in the same league as a bunch of 20 and 21 year olds?
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I think the league counts to a degree. There is really good baseball being played in the Big West and Pac 10 every year. I am not basing that any data, just my thoughts
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 9, 2011 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
Even smaller samples, but some of the summer leagues probably play even better ball.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 9, 2011 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
Do I expect the team to plan as if Gary Brown is a sure thing? No. Do I expect the team to ignore his existence when looking forward and planning for the team’s future? Also no.
If a team is not constantly evaluating their minor league talent at all levels, identifying players that belong on the fast track and making plans for those players’ advancement (and contingency plans for the lack thereof) they are not doing their job.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2011 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
This team is expecting Emmanuel Burriss to solve problems.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
?
He is a good candidate for being a star CF and leadoff hitter for years to come.
Giants already have 3 SPs, a 3B, C, and 1B locked up for the next few years. Coming up would be a CF and 2B.
That leaves RF, LF, and SS.
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Star is a bit strong
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
toned down by the term “candidate”
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You’d have to be pretty loose with the term “candidate” then.
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
He had one good year at San Jose. Let’s not get carried away.
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Of course, I’m talking about a candidate.
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It’s very unlikely to happen. If he progresses nicely through the system without any setbacks, we’re looking at a Peter Bourjos-type player.
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Reading all the scout reviews
it appears that he needs to walk a little more and be better defensively
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Sure
2.5 WAR guy, Vogelsong’s 2011 was 2.4 WAR.
Nice complementary piece, but adding a 3rd starter to that team is not like they signed Fielder.
NL West has been pretty quiet, I wouldn’t worry about Cahill. Also, you seen his FIP and xFIP? I am not sure those work well in the BOB.
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Can't include Bauer
Players can’t be traded until 1 year after they were drafted.
by free f.p. #14 on Dec 9, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
That was my initial reaction too.
Someone on another thread said that he’d be able to be dealt in January. Did the new CBA possibly change that?
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I like it for us
I think Cahill is over-rated and Parker is a good prospect. Cahill has never had a FIP under 4. Just one year of good results.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
Meaning
I think the A’s win.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
his contract is worth something too
very team friendly.
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Hmmm
But Breslow is pretty good.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
But
Cowgill could be a decent player.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
I don't fucking know
I’ll wait for Roger or Evan or GP
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
This was the book on Cowgill at the start of 2011
Collin Cowgill
Born 5/2/1986 (25 years old)
OF, ARZ
A fifth round pickup by the Diamondbacks back in 2008, Cowgill is a small-framed but solidly-built slugger in a Diamondback system chock full of mashers. Hitting right and throwing left (yes, really) the potent corner slugger is probably best-known for swatting 10 home runs for low-A Yakima over a two-week period back in 2008. His power is real (16 more dingers in his first 500 AA at-bats in 2010) but he’ll need to work on his defense and discipline before he’s ready to break into higher-level ball.
I saw him play about 25 games in Reno with the Aces. Dude is small, but very fast, a decent arm, and pretty good fielder. IMO his speed makes up for his minor deficiencies as a fielder. He can get to balls, even when he breaks wrong.
He can take walk and he hit very well in Reno. in 395 AB’s .354/.430/.554 wOBA of .442 wRC+ of 155. You need to discount that for the high altitude park and 3A pitching. In 92 major league AB’s he went .239/.300/.304 wOBA of.270. STAT NERD HELP DESK REQUEST. Does the higher weighted on base average vs OBP point to an issue? Can someone explain how that would occur ?
Bill James projects him for a triple slash of .283/.341/.434 in 2012 with 205 AB’s
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Higher wOBA than OBP means that a lot of his value comes from his power
wOBA is basically just a more accurate OPS, but it has the same scale as OBP; in other words, a .442 OBP hitter is as good at getting on base as a .442 wOBA hitter is at hitting in general.
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So his lower wOBA of .270 vs OBP of .300 in his ML at bats means he walked more than hit for power in Snakeville.
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Dude doesn't make $5 MM.
Must be pretty shitty.
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I don’t care who wins the trade in the long run, having Cahill on the Dbacks staff makes them tougher in 2012.
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This
Cahill will have a better offense to support him, and therefore more motivated to succeed.
The D-Backs are a team on the rise.
Kevin Towers:
“We see an opportunity in the next couple of years — and this is just in our eyes, the way we view it. After winning a division, expectations of the fan base, looking kind of at our competition — this is probably an opportune time to hopefully stay on top, if we make the right moves, and are able to make our club better, even if it means giving up prospects.”
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 9, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
Cahill will have a better offense to support him, and therefore more motivated to succeed.
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Wasn’t he very disgruntled with his situation in Oakland? That’s what I’m going off of.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 9, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
people are always disgruntled…nobody is ever gruntled.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 9, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure Albert Pujols and Jose Reyes are feeling darn gruntled right now
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 9, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 9, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
I’m not saying this will translate into better numbers, but he should win more with a better offense.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 9, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
Wow.
That could not be any more opposite than the Giants approach after winning in 2010.
by BestHyperboleEver on Dec 9, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
Counterpoint
He will also not be pitching in the Colliseum. Trevor, have you met my friend “the mean?”
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
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If you read the Lincecum/Cain story and still have every confidence the Giants will be able to keep both pitchers … well, good on you. That’s what Brian Sabean says he is committed to doing, and I believe him.
But almost every rival club official or agent I spoke with this week told me that the Giants are eventually going to have to break up with one or the other.
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I’ve long been on record about my skepticism that the Giants can keep Cain, Lincecum, Sandoval, and Posey long-term.
Which is sad.
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The reality in sports is that the Yankees might be the only team non-Soccer franchise that could hold onto four young stars for long periods of time. It’s just not that financially feasible.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 9, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
Not only is it not financially feasible, it's probably not even a good idea.
Just because a guy happened to be drafted and developed by your team doesn’t make him the best use of resources going forward.
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There is a problem with your logic here. That problem is that Matt Cain, Tim Lincecum, Pablo Sandoval, and Buster Posey are awesome.
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It’s the other rotating pieces that the Giants would have/are having a hard time coming up with. Those four (+Bumgarner) are exactly what you should build a team around.
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As long as they're cost controlled, I couldn't agree more.
At free agency prices, I don’t think so. Even a upper-level revenue team like the Giants will struggle to build its team around market-priced stars.
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But if you lock them up before their FA
at a lower price, the team wins.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
If they do it early enough to get lower salaries.
It’s too late for Lincecum and Cain in that regard.
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It's hard to do with pitchers.
I mean even Weaver didn’t get locked up until the last year of arb.
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the next several years are going to be brutal, free agency-wise
2013: Cain
2014: Lincecum
2015: Sandoval
2016: Emmanuel Burriss oh nooooooo
2017: Posey and Bumgarner
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Honestly
They should probably lock up Posey, Sandoval, and Bumgarner before trying for Lincecum.
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Maybe they want to see how Posey recovers from his injuries and how dedicated Pablo is to keeping his weight off? Or how much money they’ve given to Matt and TIm first?
(not being snarky, just thinking out loud)
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 9, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
It they wait for those things, they're not going to get favorable salaries.
The key to getting value on these deals is to get them done BEFORE arbitration. Really, they’ve already waited too long on Sandoval.
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2010 kinda made it difficult to assess his value.
They have a chance to lock him up before arb, and have apparently expressed an openness to it. It just won’t be quite as team-friendly as it would be otherwise.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Maybe, but it's not like he was awful in 2010.
People really overeacted to that season, much like they did to torres. “Not as good as he was last year” =/= “god, he’s done.”
Except for Huff, of course.
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yup
In Pablo’s bad year, he was still league average.
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lol Torres!
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Yes, but that was with eyesight problems and weight problems. Not exactly the time to be through bags of cash at a dude.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I actually don’t envy Sabean because there’s a lot of juggling going on. He’s having to juggle the budget in building a team, a budget in keeping Matty & Tim, and juggle arbritation numbers for Posey, MadBum, and Pablo. Then he’s got to figure out ways to keep the budget done in such a way all of those players can keep on playing with the Giants and not lose them. That’s a lot of balls to be thrown in the air and I have a feeling it’s one of the reasons for the our exciting new offense.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 9, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe, but he hasn't done himself any favors by not extending these guys long term.
His basically sat there and watched the flame burn along the trail of black powder leading towards the big fat powder keg of free agency, and suddenly he’s sprinting to stamp it out at the last second. That’s just poor planning.
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Not saying he’s handling it well, just that I think that’s the one of the big things driving the team’s decision making and it’s not an easy thing to have to juggle and even harder to not screw up.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 9, 2011 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
because our new exciting offense
is so much better than our old 2006-2009 offense.
And back then he had nothing to juggle, except maybe to blacklist Barry because Bud told him to.
Maybe it's because I'm 15 minutes away from the weekend
But with all of these short term contracts & not wanting to target older players past 2013, it sure seems like the Giants ARE trying to keep them together. HOPE!
Whether or not the players will be tempted by other offers is another story.
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
eventually Lincecum/Cain will be broken up
The Giants can afford both into their mid 30’s, though.
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
I’d be okay with letting them go when they hit their mid-30’s because that’s when there’s way more downside than upside. Right now both of them appear to still be at the top of their games and losing them would hurt even more because watching one of those two put up unGodly numbers in Boston or New York would just flat out kill.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 9, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
The Giants can afford to keep both, the question is whether they want to. They can continue with the pitching first strategy. Heck we freaking carried Zito for 7 years, they can carry Timmy, Matt, and Madbum.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
ok maybe
but of course, this is why you might want to consider going over budget and win some pennants while they are still together.
There are no flags for ‘most consecutive seasons above 81 wins’
[Poorly Wrought THING] is what Brian Sabean would have made if he were a [THING-maker] instead of a MLB GM
trollolol
And on Thursday it was made public that first baseman James Loney was arrested for suspicion of driving under the influence after his Maserati hit three cars on the freeway Nov. 14. Loney appeared to be intoxicated. He passed out after stopping his car in the fast lane and, when awakened by other drivers, attempted to flee the scene.
No one was injured, and the joke will be that the cars hit are lucky Loney doesn’t have any power. Loney hits 10 to 15 home runs a season, below average for a first baseman, yet he will likely get a raise to more than $6 million through arbitration.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
lol
He passed out after stopping his car in the fast lane and, when awakened by other drivers, attempted to flee the scene.
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“Hey coach … which bar are we meeting up at after the game?”
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
"Dammit James, I told you we're going to--"
“Look down, Skip.”
“Aw Fuck!”
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
I know it's LOL Dodgers and all, but to be serious...
Instead of adding wild card teams and creating year-round interleague, can the Powers That Be in baseball please address the DUI issue amongst its players and coaches/managers? It’s like Nick Adenhart never existed.
Sorry to be a buzzkill (literally).
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
That's only part of the story.
…Loney was handcuffed and taken to a hospital for breathalyzer and blood tests that were negative for drugs and alcohol….
One source with knowledge of the episode said Loney was rear-ended, hit his head on the ceiling of the car and momentarily blacked out. That might explain the glancing collisions of the other vehicles and the disorientation that he exhibited to police.
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What the hell
Negative for drugs and alcohol? What happened then?
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 9, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
Saw Tommy Lasorda topless, caused a psychotic episode?
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
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Cannot unsee
Cannot unthink
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 9, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
mini-rapture
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 9, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
WTF?
However, during the tests and according to the report, Loney was uncooperative and became “aggressive,” spitting the mouthpiece at an officer. He was placed in arm and leg restraints and given an “injection” by hospital staff to calm him. The Los Angeles City Attorney will decide if Loney is charged in the incident.
I’d be kinda pissed too if I got rear ended, knocked out cold, screwed up my Maserati and then everyone around me thought I was driving drunk. But I wouldnt be run-from-the-cops-then-need-to-be-restrained pissed.
The first six innings are overrated.
The LA times article from today was slightly different from MLB
Loney sideswiped three cars on the 101 Freeway in Sherman Oaks, stopped in the fast lane, passed out, then awakened and tried to flee the scene, only to crash again, said Leland Tang, a spokesman for the California Highway Patrol….Tang said officers extracted a blood sample to test for drugs and alcohol but that the test results were not yet available….
Loney was driving his 2009 Maserati westbound when he sideswiped three vehicles and his car came to an abrupt stop in the fast lane, Tang said.
“The three parties involved in the collision, including the driver of a 2008 Mini Cooper, a Toyota Prius and Mercedes-Benz attempted to contact Mr. Loney, but according to their statements, he appeared to be unconscious,” Tang said. “He eventually awoke and he saw all the people standing around him. He then attempted to flee the scene.”
Amid Monday evening rush-hour traffic, Loney drove across all the westbound traffic lanes, collided with an Infiniti I30 and hit the sound wall on the right shoulder, Tang said.
It’s not like being disoriented when one first wakes up after having been knocked unconscious is unusual.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
Attempting to flee the scence pretty much tells you that he wasn’t so disoriented that he didn’t know he was guilty of something. Immediately attempting to flee after returning to consciousness is not a usual response.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Oh, so now we know what he knew?
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2011 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Dealing with disoriented patients on a daily basis, I am not at all surprised by that response.
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People go crazy at the drop of a hat. It’s quite remarkable.
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-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Not even that. Patients that are really disoriented (like those with head injuries) just do strange things. There is no use predicting or rationalizing what those might be.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
And yes
They really do. It’s depressing.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
My mom had some pretty major surgery a few nights ago. After, she had an episode of what is apparently called ‘ICU psychosis’. It was as fun as it sounds.
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so, yeah, depressing. Causes one to realize that this whole human facade could unravel with shocking speed.
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-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
kripes, what a year you’ve had.
I hope everything works out okay, for everybody.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I bet. I hope you are doing stuff to take care of yourself too. Get your flu shot! and eat healthy… not beef jerky!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Being in the Revovery Units is enough to make anyone crazy. What are they thinking about “recovery?”
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 9, 2011 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
This is correct
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2011 9:49 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, Alex has had some tough months.
Me, I’m fine, except for the shoulder that hurts because my friends beat me up last night.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 9, 2011 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
Oh gosh
That is terrible. I hope she’s doing okay. ICU psychosis is really scary. I’ve had to treat it a couple times and it’s really difficult. It’s really is depressing.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
She's feeling way better, so that's good.
Still a distressing experience.
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-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
A definition i've found for ICU psychosis
“acute brain failure”
…
FUCK THAT SHIT!
/insert Sabean joke here.
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I’m very glad to hear it. Hope she continues to improve and gets out of the hospital and quick!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
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She’s at MD Anderson, and let me say that they do a kick ass job over there. I’ve been in my share of hospitals, and they all suck, but MD Anderson has sucked the least. The nurses and doctors are all great. When mom had her problem, we managed to get a hold of the actual surgeon, and he actually came to her room and talked her down. Dude is like captain surgery, but there he was, helping us out. I appreciated it.
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Oh, man. Dude, I hope she recovers quickly and well.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2011 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
I’d never heard of ICU psychosis, but I’ve looked it up.
It makes my own little desire to just check out seem like nothing.
I still wish I’d done it.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 9, 2011 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
I'm surprised at you all...
This is not a laughing matter. It’s a laughing out loud matter.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
But, like with most things, it’s best to laugh about it anyway.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 9, 2011 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
regarding Burriss
It amazes me that the organization even keeps him around, let alone talks about a bigger role for him. He’s been in and out of the majors for four years now; the Giants even gave up on Eugenio after four years. Burriss is spectacularly bad at hitting, not very good at anything else, and has been worth -1.0 WAR over the last three seasons.
Our team is weird, but you all know that.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
i remember that one time burriss hit one out of the infield last year and kruk was beside himself.
by MadisonBumpleganger on Dec 9, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
True Facts
Emmanuel Burriss has fewer Home Runs as a professional (4 minor league, 1 major league) than Duane Kuiper (7 minor league, 1 major league)
Speaking of which, that one home run Burriss had in 2008 has to have been an inside-the-park job, right!?
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
would a dropped third strike, errant throw down the first base line, and ricochet in the corner count as an inside-the-parker?
by MadisonBumpleganger on Dec 9, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
No
I’m pretty sure I remember his HR being legit, i.e. the bleachers.
I can’t remember the opposing pitcher, the weather conditions, or how many rows into the seats it went, so I’m using the word “legit” as a figure of speech.
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
Dunno if I would classify many home runs in GAB as “legit.”
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Any home run is the same number of runs
But it doesn’t mean Burris goes from suck to anything, he still sucks.
Why do my owners like profit>winning? Championships are the wealthy's bragging rights in Yacht rooms. #RDF can go to #!@%^
It was high
I’m not sure how far it was
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
But it’s different now – he’s ready to meet the team’s expectations! They said so!
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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IIRC, he's the only African American with even a remote shot of making the team.
I’d like to say that I don’t think this enters into the reasoning for keeping him around, but it very well might.
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Burris is a Brother?
I thought he was Hispanic for some reason.
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Correct.
Burriss (if he sticks in MLB) would be the first Washington D.C. born ballplayer since…Maury Wills (born 1932).
I know this because I was born in Washington D.C. and have a knack for remembering stupid facts like this.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 9, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
OMG
BURRIS IS TOTALLY GOING TO BECOME MAURY WILLS YOU GUYS!!!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 9, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
Gah
Just what he need, a guy who can’t hit for crap leading off for a decade because of the STEALZ!!!
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Epic Fail:http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_1962.shtml#NLmvp
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Frank Robinson had a pretty good year, eh?
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 9, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
88 career OPS+
He mixed in some fine years, but I’m not interested in sifting through the dross if the dumb manager is going to keep batting him leadoff no matter what (and that’s not just Bochy, pretty much every manager has an irrational soft spot for leadoff steals)
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SCIENCE!
BURRISS WILL WIN AN MVP, 2 GOLD GLOVES, BE ON 4 WORLD SERIES TEAMS (WINNING THREE OF THEM)….BOOK IT.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 9, 2011 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
I can really only think of one.
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
Daddy?
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 9, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
Doesn't anybody remember Maury's dad any more?
The ineffable Shirley Povich, who wrote for the Washington Post.
by mrs. owlcroft on Dec 9, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
Can’t be true, as Shirley is a girl’s name.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Is he really Shirley Povich’s son? How sad.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
My favorite sentence of sportswriting ever might be “Jim Brown, born ineligible to play for the Redskins, integrated their end zone three times yesterday.”
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
I’m probably the local chapter president of the Manny Burriss Fan Club (along with BVCE), and even I don’t understand why they’re keeping him around.
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
I remember being excited when he was first called up because he was Not Bocock.
Holy shit those were bad times.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
I remember those days
Back when anyone under 30 was considered a prospect with upside, no matter how untalented. .
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Except for poor Brian Bocock. Nobody ever thought he was a prospect, even then.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
I was just looking at this spreadsheet. Looking at everyone’s agent, I noticed that Angel Pagan’s is simply listed as Octagon. With everyone else, there’s a full name.
I’m guessing Octagon is some sort of conglomerate of agents or something, but I prefer to believe Angel Pagan is represented by a luchador.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
i prefer to think of Dr Claw pushing for a second year
by MadisonBumpleganger on Dec 9, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
I mean, I would pay good money to see someone like this hit Sabean with a hurricanrana or a springboard plancha
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
on second thought I should've gone with La Parka
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
Paging Dr. Wagner..
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
Octagon is very large multi-sport agency with offices all over the U.S.
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Probably around eight of them
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Thats a significant amount for an agency
And they have one in every region that matters.
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He says hi
And he wants to know how your family is doing.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Dec 9, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
Aw.
I bet he really is!
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 9, 2011 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
Why are there balls hanging from your chin?
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
He’s a ballchinian!
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
WOOHOO
Red Cross confirms that it won’t prosecute gamers for war crimes
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
lol
this seems like the most ridiculous story I’ve ever heard, but I’m sure theres something more ridiculous in the future
Aaron Rowand can finally breathe a sigh of relief.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2011 1:24 AM PST up reply actions
3:45, everyone else in the office has left, I'm here til 5:30
GOODBYE PANTS.
The first six innings are overrated.
Wanna talk about tv?
All this baseball talk is depressing. Do you watch Boardwalk Empire?
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Last episode was crazy
and great. I think it’s the first time I really loved an episode, and it was so unseemly. blech.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
SPOILER ALERT
I loved Angela but I can see why they had to kill her off. I think I actually just loved the actress more than the character.
WWRWD?
I like they way they structured all the reveals about Angela, Jimmy and Gillian relationships. They’ve been telegraphing the Gillian stuff since the beginning, but I really like the way it played out.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
yeah that whole scene with jimmy and gillian I was just cringing and saying there not actually gonna…
WWRWD?
Darmody's imminent fall
should be epic
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
I don’t see how he is going to survive the season. But I wouldn’t be surprised if he does since this is television and he is a main character
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 9, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
I’d have trouble wanting to watch the show without Jimmy. He & Richard are the only characters I actually like. They’ve taken all the fun out of Margaret.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
I don’t really like Jimmy, which doesn’t mean that I don’t think he is a compelling character.
Weirdly, I am most intrigued by the real gangsters, especially the New York crew. I LOVE Rothstein and I kinda like the AR/Luciano/Lanksy dynamic. Unfortunately they can’t play around with these characters as much, considering they are, you know, real people.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 9, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
Right. But they changed his name and so much about him specifically so that they weren’t bound by what happened to the real person.
The Lucky/AR/Meyer/Capone have much more name recognition (of varying levels, of course) so they can’t get away with as much. Like they couldn’t have one of them randomly die in the finale because that never happened.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 9, 2011 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
maybe
he runs back to Nucky?
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
That is the way I think it plays out. But Nucky hasn’t really shown himself to be that forgiving a character.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 9, 2011 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
I still don’t understand why he went over to the Commodore in the first place.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Yeah
this makes the most sense. But still, the Commodore was the one who fucked her up and Nucky was the one who cleaned up the messes and raised Jimmy.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
But she is trying to be the power behind the throne. She can’t manipulate Nucky in the way that she could the Commodore and her son.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 9, 2011 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah but I’m only about 3 episodes into this season so far. I don’t have HBO and OnDemand has spoiled me to where I don’t like watching shows no my computer any more. I’m just going to marathon it one of these weekends now that the season is over.
The first six innings are overrated.
TV and the comp are fairly far from each other
My convoluted solution will likely be to download episodes, put them on my phone and then hook that up to the TV and watch.
The first six innings are overrated.
Wow
Our problem is our laptops are both too old to do HDMI and we’re too broke for a new computer, so when I watch HBOGO I have to do it on the laptop, which is annoying.
I love catching up or rewatching old HBO shows, tho.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Ka-Ching! RT @MikeDiGiovanna: Since AP/CJ, #Angels have sold about 1,000 season tix, more than 500 on-line orders for ticket packages.
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They’re going to be so sorry when they realize what those signings have done to their Rainy Day Fund.
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by rotorueter on Dec 9, 2011 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
At least they play in sunny Los Angeles
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Forget the Rainy Day Fund. Their lefty specialist and centerfield funds are both completely shot. They won’t be able to retain any of their utility infielders. I mean, this is really bad for them.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2011 1:27 AM PST up reply actions
The NBA does not entertain me, I’ve realized how true that is since the lockout ended.
Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
Sorry for you
I can’t wait for the season to start.
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With people bashing Stern
There was a great interview on Espn radio LA with an former exec as to why Stern’s move make sense. In short, the move would have put the Hornets over the luxury cap and without Paul. This would totally kill any potential sale because no one wants a team with no superstar and still have a huge payroll.
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I feel no sympathy for owners like Dan Gilbert, but what he said was true. The Lakers not only would have gotten the best player in the deal, they would have also saved a ton of money, facilitating the addition of a third superstar.
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Who?
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Comic Sans Cavaliers owner
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
I mean
What superstar are the Lakers getting with just Bynum?
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Have we talked about Baggs' Winter Meeting Summary article?
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
omg this little nugget is in there
Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
by kb2011sfg on Dec 9, 2011 4:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2011 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
Each time I see it I become more and more convinced that is Larry David
The first six innings are overrated.
Looks like Sabes to me. He just finished his celebratory cocktails after trading for Pagan.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 9, 2011 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
you gotta be pretty wasted to fall up.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2011 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
To answer your question, Calbear
it was discussed in the last thread, I think. Everything is horrible and the Giants will be lucky to get 70 wins, as usual.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Oh
Well then I should look for a new team to root for. How about those San Jose A’s?
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nah Giants are gonna repeat this year yo!
86 wins
Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
I agree that Belt loses
Aggravating.
Pablo Catching? Sure lets take a guy who could be the best 3B in the org ever, and make him catch. He blocks 3b with his foot on tag plays, he has the instincts. It seems silly to me to be nothing more than insurance so they can PH the second C when the want to.
Why do my owners like profit>winning? Championships are the wealthy's bragging rights in Yacht rooms. #RDF can go to #!@%^
Meh
Emergency C are always some weird combination. Remember when Pedro Feliz represented all of us in catching?
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Pedro Feliz is still all of us in everything.
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Love this quote regarding Brandon Crawford
He will be the everyday shortstop, and perhaps there’s a reason that Bruce Bochy wasn’t given any veteran fallbacks that he might be tempted to lean on.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 9, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, yes he can.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2011 1:29 AM PST up reply actions
ok and if Bruce asks for a fall back
he’s told the team is out of $, so tough.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2011 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
perhaps there’s a reason that Bruce Bochy wasn’t given any veteran fallbacks that he might be tempted to lean on
Note to Sabes: If you have to keep shiny objects away from your manager so that he won’t stab himself in the eye with them, maybe he’s holding you back a little.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2011 1:30 AM PST up reply actions
Cahill-Breslow trade is official
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I bet you had that same prediction lined up
when the trade didn’t go though
[Poorly Wrought THING] is what Brian Sabean would have made if he were a [THING-maker] instead of a MLB GM
And
they didn’t even have to give up either Bauer or Skaggs.
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the Diamondbacks have acquired pitchers Trevor Cahill and Craig Breslow from the Athletics for minor leaguers Jarrod Parker, Collin Cowgill and Ryan Cook
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That should be in quotes
mlbtraderumors
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John Shea's summary
As for payroll, eight players are signed for $81.6 million, including Barry Zito at $19 million and Rowand, the ex-Giant who’s due $13.6 million.
Of the 12 arbitration-eligible Giants, 10 are expected to be tendered contracts and will make about $40 million. According to MLBtraderumors.com, which projects arbitration salaries, Lincecum will make $19.2 million and newcomers Cabrera and Pagan project at $4.4 million and $4.7 million, respectively.
I still don’t get how they get to $130 million. This looks like $122 M to me.
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Melky made $1.25M last year. how does he get that kind of bump?
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2011 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Monster year and another arb year.
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one good year and a bunch of crap before that. he should get a raise, but $4.4 would be significantly more than he ever made before. it seems a bit high to me.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
I agree with you.
Considering he went from $3.1 to $1.25 the year before, $4.4 really seems high to me.
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The rest I believe are league minimum
7 X $500,000 is $3.5 M.
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I think they’re closer to $89M before the Arb raises.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
They started at
$72 million, added $9.5 M with Lopez and Affeldt….$82 million
Timmy at $19.2, Vogelsong at $2.5, Casilla at $1.9, Panda at $3.2, Melky at $4.2, Pagan at $4.7, Nate at $1.2, Romo at $1.3, Burris at 600K. Fontenot $1.3…that’s about $40 million
Minimums at $3.5 million…I get $125.5 million.
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sorry. I always include the $5M to Bonds, but I believe the team doesn’t count that against player budget.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2011 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
Those numbers are also fluid
because you never know what the arb numbers are going to be.
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Why does Rowand get $1.6 MM this year? How was he not paid last year?
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You mean
$13.6 million?
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I meant $1.6 MM on top of his $12 MM salary for ’12.
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Cots has his salary at $13.6, but I thought they paid his bonus up front and only owed him $12 this year.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2011 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
it’s possible they agreed to pay out the bonus over time and that accounts for the $1.6M.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2011 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Correct
The Giants only owe Rowand $12M in 2012 (and then they owe him nothing more). The $8M signing bonus was paid off during the 2009 season.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
BR says $12 million for 2012.
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Shea (and Cot's) is wrong by at least $1.6M
Rowand is only owed $12M in 2012. In 2008, Rowand signed a 5 year contract for $60M plus a $8M singning bonus. The $13.6M figure comes from prorating Rowand’s $8M signing bonus over the length of his 5 year contract and adding the subsequent $1.6M to each year’s base salary. However, per his contract, the Giants paid the $8M signing bonus as $4M in 2008 and $4M in 2009.
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that’s what I thought.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2011 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
I am also still looking for the
$4.5 million to get to $130 M.
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it’s possible they’re leaving some room in case some of the arbitration cases are worse than they think.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
Probably
but most cases don’t even make it to arbitration…they just pick a number. I mean the Melky and Pagan numbers seem like guesses to me.
Pagan made $3.5 million but had a bad year last year…he may get a raised by by $1.2 million? Melky had a monster year but made $1.25 M last year…I should estimate that he gets $3 to $3.5 million.
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Cots also has Cain making $15.333M this season
instead of $15. just weird. they don’t always show their sources.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2011 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
Trevor Cahill shit I put together
Looking up his numbers:
2009 2010 2011
- K/9: 4.53 5.40 6.37 ↑
- FB%: 34.1 29.0 25.3 ↓
His effectiveness is heavily dependent on his BABIP, which was way low in 2010. I’m assuming Chase Field will make it harder on him in this regard.
Fangraphs:
We know that BABIP on groundballs is higher than on flyballs, as a ball is more likely to sneak between two infielders than it is to fall in front of an outfielder. In general, groundball pitchers will post higher than average BABIPs, not the other way around, though the effect is generally pretty small.
His LOB% was average last season, and a marked improvement over 2010.
His LD% was higher than 2010 and but in line with 2009.
Fangraphs:
As you probably know, the lion’s share of hits in baseball come on line drives, and so a pitcher who doesn’t surrender that many hard hit balls will also not allow that many hits (though, this does not appear to be a skill, as the year to year correlation of LD% is very low).
His BB/9 were higher than 2010 but in line with his career.
Positive attributes:
Athletics Nation:
Cahill’s own fielding ability, which is especially significant because he is a ground ball pitcher, his ability to produce weaker-than-average contract with a pitch that has exceptional movement to oft escape the sweet part of the bat or ball, his capacity to force teams to build station-to-station rallies, and his adaptability, are attributes that are within Cahill’s control. He brings them to the mound in whatever park he pitches, in front of any defense, and within the framework of any level of luck.
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AN hates this trade.
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they should
it’s a shitty trade, I’m sure they will find a way to blame the Giants for it.
Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
I don't get how they didn't
get Skaggs or Bauer and Parker in the trade.
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guess everybody says Cahill is over rated, so he wasn’t worth those guys.
Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
Just talked to an As fan I know
and he just said, “depends on who they got.”
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Players have to be a year from being drafted before they are eligible to be traded.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Skaggs would’ve been eligible. He was originally in the Angels system and was the centerpiece in the Haren deal.
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Bauer, on the other hand.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I’m still confused by this, because someone even quoted Olney as saying that Bauer could have been included if the trade had been consummated in January. And there were multiple intelligent people over on AN who were demanding Bauer’s inclusion as well. That didn’t jive with what I recalled either, and my cursory googling has been unable to turn up if perhaps that changed with the new CBA. Anyone know?
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They got Parker
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
But Billy Beane made the trade
therefore it is great
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
More TV OT: Is anyone still watching Sons of Anarchy?
I just finished watching the last ep of the most recent season.
Oh yeah.
I was a bit disappointed with the finale, but the show and this season has been so good, I’m trusting it’ll kick ass immediately upon return.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 9, 2011 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly. I really liked this season and thought the build up of the second to last episode was great. Then the CIA came in at the start of the finale and said, “Hey by the way, all this shit you set in motion all season? Nevermind.” And almost everything went back to the status quo (except Jax being President).
It just felt like a major let down.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 9, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
This season is over already?
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
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last episode was Tuesday
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2011 6:10 PM PST up reply actions
I do, but I’m having a harder and harder time suspending disbelief.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
Totally. The bad guys just get more and more elaborate. But I do like how they have expanded upon the supporting characters (Chibbs last season and Juice this season). It is good to get to know the guys other than Clay and Jax (and to a lesser extent, Opie)
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 9, 2011 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
Oh yeah, I'm with the CIA
/flashes badge, goes unquestioned
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
Ridiculous. They might as well have had badges that said “Deus ex machina”
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 9, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
I think they are trying to be all Wire-ish with the deep politics, international corruption and whatnot, but they execute it with the intellectual depth of a kiddie pool.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
I'm willing to give them a pass until I see where they go with it next season.
OTOH, the whole “THE IRA STOLE MAH BABY!” storyline was just over the top ridiculous to me and never redeemed itself, so maybe I shouldn’t cut them much slack.
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I like to pretend vast swaths of the third season didn’t happen. It was just so stupid.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 10, 2011 12:33 AM PST up reply actions
I was pretty disappointed in the ending of season 2 and I haven’t watched since. I do plan on catching up at some point though. I also went as Opie for halloween, although next year I’m planning to grow the beard out properly.
WWRWD?
Opie is awesome. The third season is kinda a mess. The fourth season is better (in my opinion) but the season finale disappoints (this seems to be a trend with SoA).
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OT: radio drama
we were talking yesterday about books on tape / radio dramas…
I haven’t looked yet, but, anybody know if there is a good radio drama of “A Christmas Carol” ?
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hmmm there’s a version of it with Patrick Stewart doing the whole thing himself.
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He's famous for doing that.
Used to be live every year somewhere, but he may have slacked off lately.
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That’s what this is, a recording of one of his live performances.
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Arizona is a better team than the Giants
Hopefully the 2nd Wild Card will be implemented this season. That’s our only chance.
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yet more OT: i wanna buy chocolate
I want to buy one of those Whitman’s Sampler-type thingies as thank-you gifts but I’d like to go with some local operation if possible. Anyone know where in the East Bay I could go? I suppose See’s is technically local.
Sees would be a helluva lot better than whitmans!
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sees
I suppose I can go to their location in that weird shopping canyon in Emeryville. And I can drop by Ikea while I’m in the area to get a chair or something.
Sees will have all kinds of stuff especially made up for the holidays and you can even get a single truffle in a box. I did that one year for my parent helpers, it was a little thank-you but they liked it.
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Cahill is kind of overrated but he’ll probably kill the Giants.
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He throws pitches over the plate right?
So yes.
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As a third starter in the NL West
I think he does just fine. He’s a good third starter for them.
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Probably means Saunders gets the shove.
Unless he’s supposed to be replacing Marquis.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Saunders going to get 8.7 mil in Arb
Put only put up 1 WAR last year in downward trend. I would give him the shove, pick someone else up cheaper or better.
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by Myemail21479 on Dec 10, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
I think stress was an issue for him last season. He’s young. He should do fine with a better offense backing him up.
SF Chronicle June 19, 2011:
The reasons for Cahill’s struggles are up for debate. Manager Bob Melvin and pitching coach Ron Romanick believe that, with three members of the Opening Night rotation out of action, Cahill is trying to do too much. He’s overthrowing sometimes. He’s trying to be too fine other times.
“At the start of the season, he was part of five Musketeers, and they were all feeding off each other,” Romanick said. "Now it’s just Trevor and Gio Gonzalez left. I told Trevor not to put all that burden on himself, don’t try to do too much.
“But he’s just missing the glove, and then he’s behind, and then it kind of goes from there.”
Cahill believes that mechanics come into play because he feels as if he cannot repeat his delivery. Yet during his bullpen sessions, he does everything perfectly. He repeats his delivery well.
It’s taking it into games that’s the trouble; the urgency of big-league pitching doesn’t allow for thinking about mechanics.
“I feel like I’m fine,” Cahill said. “Now it’s getting the bullpen session into the game. My bullpens are better than they’ve ever been. Ron said I need to keep that rhythm.”
SF Chronicle June 20, 2011
“You’re not supposed to be thinking about mechanics while you’re trying to get the hitter out,” Cahill said.“Better rhythm today,” manager Bob Melvin said. “He was fighting himself before. His timing was all over the place. In the middle innings, you could see him start to gain his confidence. When he stops thinking about mechanics and all the exterior things and has good thoughts and just throws the ball, good things happen to him.”
HBT July 22, 2011:
Also a concern is the regression of his curveball. Based on a couple of early-season viewings, I thought it was turning into the strikeout pitch he needed and I got quite a bit more bullish on his future as a result. Unfortunately, he’s no longer throwing it for strikes or getting swings and misses with it.
HBT today:
His peripherals didn’t justfy his 2.97 ERA in 2010, but his strikeout rate took a nice step forward last season, even as his ERA increased along with it. He finished the year 12-14 with a 4.16 ERA, but his overall outlook seems just as positive as it was a year ago. He’s never been hurt, and as a big-time groundball pitcher, he’s a great fit in an hitter friendly ballpark like Chase Field.
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My first football [lolsoccer] game of the year tomorrow
And my team proceeded to have both of its centrebacks limp off last week, leaving us with precisely no defenders to use.
On top of that, I have to sit in the home section of the ground, so if we score I can’t celebrate or I’ll get beaten up.
…I’ve not been this excited in months!
Sundrendy!
How good is your keeper?
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Pretty good. But our central defenders will be a guy who’s outclassed playing at Right Back and a guy who was so valued by the team that he didn’t have a squad number.
Sundrendy!
Coloccini?
Carter Jurica!
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Between him and Gutierrez, that squad has some hair. And back when they had Carroll? Sheesh.
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Billie Beane boned us
he couldn’t get a better deal from the royals? Or are the royals clutching at their prospects like magic beans?
Hate that trade for Oakland.
You're thinking of Billie Bird or Billie Burke.
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Carlos González, Huston Street, Andre Ethier, Dan Haren, Brad Ziegler, the list goes on.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 9, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
Zito
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isn't jarrod parker a pretty good prospect?
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Drafted a spot ahead of Mad Bum
yes, but expendable for Arizona + he has an injury history.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 9, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
Happy Friday
(t’s from last night’s Parks & Rec)
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I love Andy in the background.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
GO MAKE YOURSELF THROW UP!
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Best Swanson ep. ever.
And Andy’s silver lips was freakin classic. I almost died.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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I’d take the episode where he’s stuck in his chair, but the whole house building thing was good.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
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by Soulbrother16 on Dec 9, 2011 8:43 PM PST up reply actions
I love everything about that shot
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 9, 2011 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
The office hated on the Black Eyed Peas as well...
aside from the obvious, anyone know why NBC does not like them?
Pokemonz help: (no srsly, please help)...
…So in our Rule V Draft, I need to decide who would be a more viable pickup: Tyler Graham, Johnny Monell, or Brock Bond. Viable meaning, most likely to see MLB action.
In the Rule V rules, they can stay on my MiLB roster, but I have to pay them.
I like Graham better, but I need IF help more and I have Ramos and Hector Sanchez, so I’m not needing a Catcher.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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I love it.
It follows MLB, except we have a salary cap based on our org’s IRL salary. I have the Twins org. But player movement is just the same with trades, Amat Draft, Rule V stages, etc. Our MiLB free agent draft is coming up and my two big targets are Reiner Roibal and Adalberto Mejia.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
What do the Giants do for a back up 2B if when Sanchez gets hurt and they let Kepp or Font go?
Bond? Pill? Deal?
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Haven’t you been paying attention? Burriss
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
It’s sad that you’re right.
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
well crap, I guess my cd/dvd drive dealie just died
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
They did have 7 previous years of awfulness
so I would think that they had more time to build up.
Giants are still better than D-Back. Other than Upton and Young (and maybe Drew), I don’t see anyone on the D-backs that I would take to replace their Giants counter part.
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Correction 5 out of last 7 years of awfulness
Good in 2007 and 82-80 in 2008.
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I am quite surprised that they haven't made a bigger splash
They have a $28 million payroll coming into this year.
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His stats were down last year and his injury last year does not help. His career has also been pretty sporadic, one good year followed by one below average year.
but probably Drew considering Crawford’s lack of offense
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There’s no way to say that Crawford is better than Drew. They shouldn’t even be compared.
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C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
are you seriously saying you’re not sure if Stephen Drew is better than Brandon Crawford!?
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I was thinking more of a defense v. offensive deal
But sure I will say that Drew is better than Crawford.
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drew is not exactly a slouch
he was bad early in his career but he’s been solid for the last 3
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Was just looking at dWAR on BR. UZR says that he’s pretty decent.
So yes, I would rather than Drew than Crawford. Injury is still a concern.
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yeah but for crawford
Being the worst offensive player in baseball is a concern
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:) I have unreasonable faith that he will be decent. .700 OPS!
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I’m gonna hope for a Cliff Pennington type line.
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To be fair, he clearly stated it was unreasonable.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2011 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
Let's see
Goldschmidt is better than Huff/Pill, Drew is far better than Crawford/Burriss, and the entire outfield is better than what the Giants have. What’s more, the Diamondbacks aren’t too far behind in the positions where they trail.
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Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
But is Goldschmidt better than Belt? No.
Panda >>>> Roberts
Buster > Montero
Sanchez = Kelly Johnson
Drew >> Crawford
Young = Pagan (Pagan actually has a higher OPS+ than Young)
Upton >>>>> Melky
Nate = Parra
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belt isn't playing
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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
So I cannot include him
in who I rather have on the team?
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Kelly Johnson was traded
I think Aaron Hill is their 2B now
You're right
I was looking at BR.
I would say that Sanchez/Fontenot/Burriss > Hill/Bloomquist
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Oh we haven't even talked about pitching
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They’re really not far behind the Giants.
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No
but potential is different than proven.
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Hudson and Kennedy were both worth ~5 fWAR last year. So no, it’s not really all potential. Their potential is what makes them scary as hell.
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Hudson and Kennedy are very good but we will see if they can repeat
Certainly Bauer and Skaggs are very good so we will see what they can do.
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I'd bet good money neither reaches that again next year
They both accumulated twice as many WAR as they did in 2010, so I’m going to go out on a limb and say there’s going to be some drop off
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Kennedy, perhaps, but I suspect that you’ve overlooked that Hudson posted 2.3 fWAR in 2010…in 95.1 innings/14 games started. He was still on pace for a 5 fWAR season.
That was a really stupid trade at the time the White Sox did it, and it’s an even stupider trade now.
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I did overlook that about Hudson
And still I would bet that Hudson doesn’t reach 5 WAR again.
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
You are seriously underrating how much Drew is better than Crawford and overrating how much Panda is better than neck tat.
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I really like Drew but I looked at his stats and it’s really inconsistent. He’s turning 28 and have alternating good/below average years. He will be coming off of a big injury and it may affect his range.
I think Panda is a lot better than Roberts.
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Whereas Crawford is just consistently shitty? And Panda is probably better than Roberts, but you have him two more “>” than Drew is better than Crawford. That’s just crazy.
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Again
I was looking at defensive v. offensive value. Drew certainly averages about a 2 oWAR and 0 dWAR. I can see Crawford being a 0.5 oWAR and a 1 dWAR
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That’s like worst case scenario for Drew and best case scenario for Crawford. I will be shocked if they’re even within 2 WAR next year.
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That’s Drew’s career avg for WAR
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by CalBear949 on Dec 10, 2011 7:34 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
And it includes seasons that give virtually no indication as to how well he’ll perform next year. Typically only the last three seasons give some sort of useful information in how a player will perform in the next year.
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We only added a 4 WAR OF and Pagan, who had 5.5 WAR in 2010
Add in either Huff or Belt
Posey
Reasonable 2B
That is not bad. Still want to get a SS or Beltran, but not my money\choice.
Why do my owners like profit>winning? Championships are the wealthy's bragging rights in Yacht rooms. #RDF can go to #!@%^
I suggest you do something about it!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2011 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
I really don't like that this implies 50 year d backs dynasty.
Still only half full stadiums at any given time.
I wish they would kick the tires on Jimmy Rollins.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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Why would they want him?
They have Emmanuel Burriss.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
You want to give him
5 years?
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"kick the tires" means see what it'll actually take to get him
the Phillies appear to be the only team pursuing him right now. He’s not going to get five years.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Will he take Schrute bucks?
Because the Giants have no money.
It’s going to be tough beating the D-backs with Buster and Panda being the only position players better at their position than the Dbacks position players.
And now their starting rotation is improved. Hopefully Kennedy crashes back to earth.
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OT: holiday wish list fanpost
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2011/12/9/2625068/ot-all-i-want-for-insert-name-of-holiday-here-is
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I know I've complained about them before (all the time) but...
RAWR SATURDAY FINALS.
Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian
I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.
NOOOO. Stop improving yourselves
The Diamondbacks were discussing a two-year deal with the arbitration-eligible Joe Saunders over the past couple of weeks, but tonight’s acquisition of Trevor Cahill has changed things a bit. In fact, Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic hears that Arizona may now trade the veteran left-hander.
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Brett Pill starting at first base would be great news.
One of the few giants who can actually hit the damn ball.
Giants should trade Belt before the start of the season….
not sure if serious
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
PAID HIS DUES
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
by Falconer88 on Dec 9, 2011 10:11 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
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Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 9, 2011 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
My reaction
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Actually I'm going with this
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
As an aside, I acted in something last weekend (YOU CARE). Pretty fun.
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Uhh
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oh my god trying to find the cheat here is going to drive me insane
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 9, 2011 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
It has to do with the differences in international exchange rates.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2011 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
The thickness of the borders between colors?
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
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On the far right, the grids don’t match up. I really think the border between the different colored regions has been thickened in order to fudge the area.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
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Yep. The thicknesses change and the fudge only has to be like 1/20th of a unit.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2011 8:14 AM PST up reply actions
Since I can’t pause it, I’m not going to try.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2011 1:37 AM PST up reply actions
No.Really
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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Lulz
You are too funny. No, really, you make me chuckle. Do continue.
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Don't be so impatient with Belt
Younger, better built, better minor numbers, LH. He will be near all star level at Pill’s age.
Pill will get his time but not at Belt’s expense.
Why do my owners like profit>winning? Championships are the wealthy's bragging rights in Yacht rooms. #RDF can go to #!@%^
!!!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2011 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
From Tom Verducci on CNNSI
On the importance of Regional Sports Networks and something very, very, bad:
There is a reason the Rangers, who were in bankruptcy a year ago, and the Angels, who kept coming up short on free agents, are now superpowers — they lined up state-of-the-art massive TV deals. Once it was new ballparks that created the hierarchy of spending power in baseball. Now RSNs are the new oil wells. Next up at the TV windfall game: the Dodgers.
Gulp
On the Marlins:
One baseball source said this is a franchise with such uncertainty that it asked free agents to be paid in two pay periods (some players prefer getting their money in only one period, the regular season) so that they could use the late-year revenue-sharing payments from baseball.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 9, 2011 7:06 PM PST reply actions
the giants should do one
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This adds a wrinkle to the A's saga
Giants can’t really do a network if the A’s are in San Jose.
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Having the A's in San Jose
cuts down on the exclusivity of the Giants. Dodgers and Anaheim are a good distance apart and have pretty separate audience. Giants/A’s interest overlap considering the bandwagon nature of the Bay Area.
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Speaking as somebody halfway between SF and SJ, that’s not really how it works on the Peninsula and South Bay (the area of contention). The A’s being in San Jose has virtually no impact on the SF Giants ticket sales at AT&T. It does probably means the Giants org needs to relocate the SJ Giants, but there’s plenty of other minor league markets around northern California, and cost of relocation are reasonably trivial.
But TV markets don't go that way.
Giants can market that they are team for SF, Marin, South Bay, and Peninsula. IF the A’s going in, the TV market will be greatly diluted.
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Can’t say I really see it working that way day to day around here. Lived here 30+ years and I’ve yet to come across an Giants fan who would stop following the SF Giants if the A’s moved.
1) It’s about marketing…eyeballs and potential reach
2) It’s also not about current fans but future fans. Also, many of the “fans” are easily swayed
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The trend seems to be towards extrmely long TV deals, 10+ years. The long-term impact of the A’s moving to Sn Jose, particularly indoctrinating the young fans of the south bay, would certainly be a factor.
IIRC, though, the Giants already formed a pseudo-network by taking a big stake in CSN bay area.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
They did, but it now occurs to me that their intransigence might be at least partly a means of getting the Giants a deal similar to what the Orioles got in recompense for the Nats’ move into Washington.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2011 8:18 AM PST up reply actions
The A’s being in San Jose has virtually no impact on the SF Giants ticket sales at AT&T.
I think this is incorrect, and will get more incorrect as time passes.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2011 8:16 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I read somewhere that the Dodgers next TV deal will be a bidding war between TWC and FOX and could go as high as $4 Billion.
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Dec 9, 2011 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
Wont’t yoy buy a panda hat or six and support our struggling franchise?
I like penguins more
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Ron effin' Swanson
Parks and Recreation @parksandrecnbc
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His mustache looks like fecal matter.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
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by Soulbrother16 on Dec 9, 2011 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
Festooned with smaller turds.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
Next thing you know the Giants will have signed Jamey Carroll and shit will truly be fucked,
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Is it wrong to have beef jerky for dinner?
Yes. No.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
As long as it’s accompanied by a vegetable serving. How do you feel about pickled onions?
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 9, 2011 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
I like ’em! Need to heat up a can of beans or something.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
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No
is that the only option?
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
If you’re my cat, then yes. He stole some earlier this year and it made him throw up everywhere.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2011 1:39 AM PST up reply actions
As Grant said, awkward.....
CraigBreslow Craig Breslow
I can no longer denounce the relevance of Twitter. It broke the story of my trade…to me.
CraigBreslow Craig Breslow
Thanks for all the well wishes as I head to the @dbacks!
MCC cracks me up
There was a comment on here that went against the grain, got multiple responses. I go back to his posts, 1 a day, 3-5 responses each. Always causing a commotion with an old school stats lean.
NOW THE part of the story you might find amusing. The first response to one particular response:
FOR THE SWARM!!
Dearest, Susan – The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer
You guys are silly sometimes, especially Lars.
Why do my owners like profit>winning? Championships are the wealthy's bragging rights in Yacht rooms. #RDF can go to #!@%^
Was it the Pill one? Because that was itself silly.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2011 1:40 AM PST up reply actions
Just because
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by DFARowand on Dec 9, 2011 9:10 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
The Giants offseason (sorry I'm really bored and trying to do anything but study)
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that is so cute!
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by Myemail21479 on Dec 10, 2011 9:44 AM PST up reply actions
Instead of trying to get a big bat. Why not focus on being a contact; singles and doubles hitting team?
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- WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US???? NOOOOOOOOOOBODYY!!!!!!!!!!!!
- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.
So, why did the little flat faced dog run into itself? Some show of defiance?
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 9, 2011 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
Um wow.
CraigBreslow Craig Breslow
Molecular Biophysics & Biochemistry RT @ihatepopouts what was your major at Yale?
I thought he was joking so I looked it up. He isn’t.
He graduated Yale in 2002 with a B.A. in molecular biophysics and biochemistry. He deferred acceptance to the New York University School of Medicine because of his “love of the game”.
He certainly has more brains than our current one, though Biochemistry and Biophysics don’t exactly train you to manage a baseball team.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 9, 2011 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
Sure they do.
They teach you about logic and how to use it. Specific science training is overrated; it’s how to think rationally that’s actually important.
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Savvy Sabes LOLs at your big words
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Dec 9, 2011 11:43 PM PST up reply actions
He’s often non-jokingly been called the smartest pitcher in the game. I think Chris Young went to Princeton and got a major in economics, but getting into NYU’s med school is a cut above that even.
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He certainly has far more value to society than an economist.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Why, Community why?
I hate Christmas episodes. And musicals.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 10:16 PM PST reply actions
I’m not a huge fan of either, and yet that was the best episode of the season.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
You’re going to want to see the jiggling Annie in a Santa outfit gif aren’t you?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 9, 2011 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
Boopy doopy doop boop SEX
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
I preferred Britta in her tree outfit
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Dec 9, 2011 11:41 PM PST up reply actions
So Britta feels the same way about Christmas as about pizza.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Christmas comes but once a year. Pizza comes every time I call.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 10, 2011 12:04 AM PST up reply actions
Hey man, can you post more gifs of hot chicks? I’d like to compare their hotness to one another and maybe make a chart comparing their hotness in various areas.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2011 8:22 AM PST up reply actions
Hmmm
Brewers shortstop Alex Gonzalez told Spanish-language sports talk radio show Los Cronistas in Venezuela that he had offers from the Giants and the Mets but that he chose to sign with Milwaukee because he wanted to be a starter
The A’s preferred Jarrod Parker over Trevor Bauer during trade talks with Arizona, a source tells Bob Nightengale of USA Today.
The A’s objective is to get younger – not necessarily cheaper – and to build a competitive team within three years in anticipation of a potential move to a new ballpark in San Jose, according to Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Parker over Bauer……?
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
Aha!
CaliforniaJag Brad Hill
I say the A’s trade every good player they have to the NL West until the Giants give up San Jose
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Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 10:26 PM PST reply actions
Apparently it is Fred Lewis’ Bday today
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Dec 9, 2011 10:28 PM PST reply actions
Watching Next Iron Chef (from last week)
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
INTENSE EPISODE!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Everyone at my school who applied to Stanford got rejected
Am I a bad person for laughing?
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
You should feel happy for them.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Every year something like three or four dozen people from my school go to Berkeley.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
The size of the respective schools are pretty radically different (6,800 v. 25,000) and Berkeley obviously draws a much higher percentage of their students from California.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 9, 2011 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
My graduating class (in San Jose) had 3 kids go to Harvard, 3 to Stanford, 7 to Berkeley, and about 25 to UC Santa Cruz.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 9, 2011 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
You're probably a bad person, but not for laughing.
We had our winter formal the night that Stanford gave back its early action decisions. Something like 8 or 9 people applied out of our class of 55, and 5 got in. It was a real awkward night.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Am I a bad person for being happy Castle's daughter got rejected from Stanford?
I hate it when people on TV are like, oh yeah, of course I got in to X hard school. What, like it is hard? No one ever seems to get rejected from anywhere on TV.
I especially hate it when they have NEVER been portrayed as particularly academically gifted/driven. (Although this doesn’t really apply in her case. More of the Glee/The OC type thing)
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 9, 2011 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, like Quinn from Glee just decided to apply for Yale
I don’t think they accept you just because you’re pretty.
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 9, 2011 11:40 PM PST up reply actions
I know! ::sigh::
She may have a good sob story for her application essay but that doesn’t help if her SAT score or GPA are not close perfect.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 9, 2011 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
But she won Regionals once on Glee!
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 10, 2011 12:00 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t know where Stanford gets its students
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
From speckops’s school.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
I don’t think anyone from my school has been accepted to Stanford in years.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 9, 2011 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
I met a lot of people from Plano, TX, wherever that is.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Dallas suburb, I want to say. It has a suitably boring name.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Yup.
Plano is located within the metropolitan area commonly referred to as the Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex. The city is home to many corporate headquarters: Alliance Data, Cinemark Theatres, Dell Services, Dr Pepper Snapple Group, Ericsson, Frito-Lay, HP Enterprise Services, J. C. Penney, Pizza Hut, Rent-A-Center, and Siemens PLM Software.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 9, 2011 11:57 PM PST up reply actions
Famous for an incident involving black tar heroin.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
My Uncle's family lives there
I visit once a month or so. It’s famous for having an incredible school district and being full of rich people, Also famous for having one of the highest cocaine usage rates in the U.S. Lots of disposable income and rich, bored kids.
Proud adoptee of Dick Tidrow the mastermind behind Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain, Buster Posey and many more. Also known as "The Reason".
My brother went there and a friend from High School. I, however, was deemed unworthy of Leland Stanford Jr’s University and went to a State school instead
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 10, 2011 12:01 AM PST up reply actions
You’re a bad person for caring much, yes.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Watching Breaking Bad S3
I hate Skylar now.
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 9, 2011 11:40 PM PST reply actions
I know it's how you feel but the negativity towards skylar always gets me annoyed
How did you expect her to react?
Seriously, a fugue state?
Under duress . . .
. . . from mrs owlcroft, who is poking me in the ribs with sharp objects, saying that I should drop in to reply to people who wonder where I’ve gone:
You read quotations like those ten crystalline gems—pearls of wisdom—and you wonder that a sane man runs away screaming from discussion of this team’s near- and middle-range prospects? Our raised vegetable beds have cinder-block walls: if I need something to pointlessly bang my head against till it’s bloody, I don’t even need to log on anywhere.
(Incidentally, how in Heaven’s name is anyone supposed to take seriously a man who can, in public, utter the pseudo-word “forecasted”?)
Nothing material is going to change till ownership realizes what it has on its hands with Sabean and Bochy. It’s easy to pick on them, and they deserve it, but this organization is a multi-storied outhouse, and it’s the guys with their pants down in the top crapper that bear the final blame.
There. That’s better. (With a tip of the hat to Peter Cook and Dudley Moore.)
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
by owlcroft on Dec 10, 2011 1:56 AM PST reply actions 6 recs
rec’d for “multi-storied outhouse”
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
I’m starting to think that staying up for this eclipse was a bad idea. Should have just gotten up early. Ugh. My Saturday is going to be spent unconscious.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I fell asleep at 11:00 or so. I don’t even know how.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
And of course a beautiful woman started texting me at around 11:30 or so. This is just the way things work for me.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
There was an eclipse last night? I hope the waterbenders are okay.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Robins been a bit sloppy today
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2011 7:37 AM PST reply actions
they poop on your car?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Oh
I just now realized I didn’t post that on the Arsenal blog. Oops.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2011 8:59 AM PST up reply actions
Dan Runzler and Brandon Crawford wedding photos(CSNBayArea)
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/giants-talk/post/Two-more-Giant-weddings-?blockID=609258&feedID=2796
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
Dan Runzler FOR THE WIN!
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
meh
She’s very pretty, but that sculpted blond thing is not my style. But, good for the boy all the same!
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Out of the 4 recent wedding pictures I'd give him in the nod
Considering they’re all that blond type
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Trevor Cahill a young Roy Halladay?
MLB Tonight breaks down A’s starter Trevor Cahill’s value, calling him a young Roy Halladay
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=14727857&topic_id=&c_id=mlb&tcid=vpp_copy_14727857&v=3
Comparing Cahill’s numbers and trends with Halladays’s career stats gives some weight to this idea. The most striking difference is BB/9 and overall innings. Halladay is stingy with free passes and is an innings eater.
LD% GB% FB% K/9 BB/9 LOB%
Halladay(career) 19.0 55.1 25.9 6.88 1.85 73.6
Cahill(last season) 18.8 55.9 25.3 6.37 3.55 72.8
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
Halladay's walks and innings pitched are pretty much what makes him Halladay
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
And of course his ability to consistently get batters out at a much higher rate and efficiency than the average starter.
It wasn’t until Halladay’s fourth season in the bigs that he topped 200 innings. Lets see where Cahill goes from here in that regard, being that he is only 23.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 10, 2011 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, Cahill’s K/BB is pretty much Sanchez-esque because the dude walks too many people for how few he strikes out.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Roy Halladay was worse his first three seasons at the same age as Cahill.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 10, 2011 9:39 AM PST up reply actions
i don't think a pitcher
going from what Roy Halladay was to what he is now is really a career path you can project with anyone else. That shit was unique.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I mean
just because Cahill isn’t as bad as Halladay was in his first three years (and really only that one year with the 10+ ERA) doesn’t mean he’s going to progress to being as good as or better than Halladay.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
But then, Halladay is the best pitcher of the 00s, so.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
actually Randy Johnson probably is.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
interesting
used play index to find top pitchers by ERA+ with at least 1500 IP from 2000-2009 and got
5. Curt Schilling
4. Roy Halladay
3. Roy Oswalt
2. Randy Johnson
1. Johan Santana
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Santana was a beast.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Agreed
One helluva tear.
Roy has been best last 10 for sure that is still active.
Why do my owners like profit>winning? Championships are the wealthy's bragging rights in Yacht rooms. #RDF can go to #!@%^
by Myemail21479 on Dec 10, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
yeah definitely the best of the pitchers whose careers started around 2000
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Pedro Martinez??
forget it your right, RJ had more cy youngs and was a Giant
Giants win the World Series! (soda spews from nostrils as I choke for joy)
by Giant Colossus on Dec 10, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Too few innings.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I mean, if it went 1996-2005, Pedro probably wins hands down.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
true say
Giants win the World Series! (soda spews from nostrils as I choke for joy)
by Giant Colossus on Dec 10, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
yep
Pedro from 96-05: 177 ERA+, 2058.2 IP
Randy: 162 ERA+, 2134.0 IP
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
#3?
Kevin Brown!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
lol no HOF votes
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Chris Carpenter also struggled early in his career.
I wonder if sinker ballers need extra time to develop their craft. Flame throwers and high strike out pitchers have it easier early in their careers because they don’t have batters putting the bat on as many balls.
Theres this idea that because Cahill was lucky in 2010, and because some of his numbers went down in 2011 and that he struggled at times, he has already hit his peak. People need to remember he’s only 23.
I wonder if he bitched about the direction of the A’s organization and that was a main reason for him being traded.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 10, 2011 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
Lots of pitchers struggled early in their career and didn’t turn out to be awesome. I’m not saying Cahill won’t, but I could probably find lots of other pitchers with similar numbers to him who didn’t turn out to be great five years down the road.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Also Derek Lowe can be included.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 10, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
man, I hate waking up late.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I’m a not early/not late kind of guy. I am usually up before 7AM. This morning, I’ve already had coffee ( double espresso), read the local news and review, checked McC and commented in a few places, and eaten breakfast.
Now I’m off to do some work with the non-profit. Have a good morning Merope.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
I like to be up by 630 and out of the house by 730. I didn’t wake up till 830 this morning,
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
if it's not the weekend, I'm up at 5:30
Yoga-ing like the hippie I am, then off to work by 6:30.
Why do I leave so early? So I can be out at 4 every day.
you keep saying that…
you might change your mind once it actually starts
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I forgot how slow Friday evenings/Saturday mornings are at McC
Especially during the off-season
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
plus a lot of the kids have finals or are traveling home this time of year.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I have a final due on Monday
That I’m maybe 1/5 of the way completing. LOL me
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
I finally have a moment to myself for the first time since October
And I’m spending it here? Good god.
Honestly, a day in is what the doctor ordered
I was working 7 days a week from mid-October up until Halloween, when my Dutch house guest arrived, I pulled out all of the stops to do a nice Halloween for someone who really hasn’t had one. A day after I sent her on her way for the first time, I flew out to London, was there for two weeks, came back, and had the house guest again, all the way til yesterday. Through all of this, crazy work goings-on, a lot of sight seeing, a lot of going out and a lot of Cap M being tired.
I’m going to bust out the ol’ illegal narcotics, order some food and play some video games today, because tomorrow, I start working out again. Sigh.
every once in a while a sloth day is a good thing. We’ve been passing a cold back and forth here for about a month. I’ve had a week of sloth days now and I’m getting tired of them!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I'll take that as sponsorship of all of the prog metal I'm going to listen to, NBA Jam I'm going to play
and Pizza I’m going to eat.
It’s all well and good, I really need to start picking up the pieces of starting to get back into shape after two months practically of ignoring it. Like, tomorrow.
Plus my singing voice is destroyed from all of the whiskey and other harmful things I’ve done to it without any warm ups or cardio.
Le sigh.
so ...........
i’ve been playing Skyrim for awhile now and just found out my favorite Giant Andres Torres is gone …… i’m going back to Skyrim ……. it’s a better world there …….
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
November 1, 2010: Best/craziest/drunkest night of my life.
UPGRADE!
/Torres’ heart breaks
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 10, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
I so want to buy this game, but Im too into Battlefield 3 right now
You follow me, I'll follow you --------> http://ayeyooojerm.tumblr.com/
- SF GIants Baseball 2011 = *sigh* Home of 6 World Series Titles
- SF 49ers Football 2011-2012 = ??? Home of the 5.5 Super Bowl Champs ( Aaron Rodgers should of been a Niner)
- WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US???? NOOOOOOOOOOBODYY!!!!!!!!!!!!
- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.
Should I buy MW3 or Battlefield 3?
PROUD FATHER of a baby totally made during the 2010 World Series.
MW3..same as all the others,but is that a bad thing? No, IMO
Giants win the World Series! (soda spews from nostrils as I choke for joy)
by Giant Colossus on Dec 11, 2011 9:34 AM PST up reply actions
Fuck fuck fuck
Stupid Dbacks
our whole advantage is our pitching
cahill (isnt he one of grants favourites?) is going to be really solid and once bauer gets to the bigs he is quickly going to be the third best pitcher in our division
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Dec 10, 2011 10:30 AM PST reply actions
So everytime someone asks me what i want for christmas my only answer i give is the giants world series dvds
so i may be getting like 14 sets
worth it
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Dec 10, 2011 10:36 AM PST reply actions
couldnt think of a better gift..well maybe, but not appropriate here
Giants win the World Series! (soda spews from nostrils as I choke for joy)
by Giant Colossus on Dec 10, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Hahah
Joe Kmak went on to have a great career…….as my algebra teacher
by Capitol Hill Giant on Dec 14, 2011 10:20 AM PST reply actions
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