Would you trade Zito for Burnett?

by 3dottk on Dec 8, 2011 12:30 AM PST

$19 million 2012

$20 million 2013

AJ Burnett Contract:

$16.5 million 2012

$16.5 million 2013

So we would save $2.5 million this year, and 3.5 million next year, also the Yankees are trying to move AJ, so they're willing to throw in $8 million to do it... Probably not if we return Zito though.

Pros of AJ:

Doesn't get injured often

High Strikeout rate

Cons:

He sucks as of late... could pick it up in a return to the NL

I for one would like to see this because I've given up on Zito, the Yankees love lefties and Burnett has worn out his stay there as well.

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we wouldn’t save money, but yes I would do this simply because Burnett’s upside is higher.

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by Nnamdi Asomugha on Dec 8, 2011 5:34 AM PST reply actions

Yes

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by GiantPain on Dec 8, 2011 6:15 AM PST reply actions

and the Yankees would rent out Zito to do pizza commercials? And that would make him valuable?

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by foothillsfan on Dec 8, 2011 6:47 AM PST reply actions

Psh.

If the Giants were interested in saving money, they would be doing things this offseason that actually save money.

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by howtheyscored on Dec 8, 2011 8:15 AM PST reply actions

You wouldn’t spend $9.5 million on two LOOGYs?

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by SFGuy on Dec 8, 2011 9:13 PM PST up reply actions

Yes I would

Plus no buy-out for Burnett in 2014 like what Zito has

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by baetown415 on Dec 8, 2011 8:20 AM PST reply actions

Of course

by joe t on Dec 8, 2011 8:35 AM PST reply actions

Yes Please

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by Smotheredinhugs on Dec 8, 2011 9:12 AM PST reply actions

Duh, but why in the HELL would the Yankees want a worse pitcher than they already have? Can you imagine the Red Sox lineup against Zito in either Yankee Stadium or Fenway? HR Derby

by hawaiiconnect on Dec 8, 2011 9:14 AM PST reply actions

Yes

theres not a player i wouldnt trade him for

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by Meatball on Dec 8, 2011 12:55 PM PST reply actions

Arod?

That’s a tough contract to eat.

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by Bhaakon on Dec 8, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions

Straight up?

I wouldn’t trade him for Alex Rodriguez, Jayson Werth, Joe Mauer, Ryan Howard, and TBH, probably not Albert Pujols. Carl Crawford’s on the fence too – I really like him and I think he’ll bounce back, but he got a LOT of money and 2011 was not encouraging.

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by quincy0191 on Dec 8, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions

Let's see...

Zeets is looking to be paid $46MM over the next 2 years. Let’s assume he accrues 1 WAR per year at $5MM/WAR. That means the net loss is ~$36MM.

Do you think all those people above will underperform their remaining contracts by $36MM?

by Nivra on Dec 11, 2011 9:29 AM PST up reply actions

Yes

Werth’s already looking like a bust; he actually outperformed his 2011 salary by $1.4M, but he only got paid $10M. When he hits years 4-7 of that deal and is being paid $20M+ for his 35+ seasons, I expect him to easily lose $36M.

Pujols’ deal is so big he can still be worth $20M+ a year and lose $50M.

Rodriguez produced $1M more than his deal in 2008 – since then, he’s underperformed by $10M+ annually. His deal is actually front-loaded so it gets better over time, but he’s still locked up through 2017 at $20M+ per season, and I doubt he gets better (which he would have to in order to even produce $20M of value as he hasn’t done that since 2008).

Mauer can’t stay on the field and he’s making $23M annually until 2018. Last year, the first year of his huge deal, he got paid the same amount for $8M worth of production. He has outperformed that salary a few times, but I’m not betting on a catcher who spent a lot of time hurt last year and wasn’t great when he was on the field.

Crawford is less certain as I do think he’s a very good player and he’s still quite young with a good injury history, but he is getting paid $20M a season until 2017, and was worth $0.9M last year. Not to mention he’s only exceeded that $20M mark twice in his career (2009 and 2010).

So yes, I do think those players will all underperform their contracts to the degree Zito is “better” than them. But it’s not just that – getting Zito’s salary off the books in two years is better than trading it for a contract that isn’t up for six years, particularly for players who are already showing signs of decline.

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by quincy0191 on Dec 11, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions