A Love Letter to Andres Torres
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 7, 2011 12:00 PM PST
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PrintThe 2010 Giants were not expected to win the World Series. No, please, sit down. Hear me out. It was a bit of an unexpected run. Everything came together in just the right way, and the baseball monkeys ended up producing the entire works of Shakespeare, mercifully getting Comedy of Errors out of the way first. The Giants won the World Series. Lead turned into gold. Cold fusion was discovered. Atlantis was found*.
When I think of the 2010 World Series, I think of Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain, Edgar Renteria and Madison Bumgarner. When I think of the 2010 NLCS, I think of Cody Ross and Juan Uribe, with the usual suspects mixed in. When I think of the 2010 NLDS, I think of Ross and Lincecum again, maybe with a little Brooks Conrad mixed in.
When I think about the 2010 season -- from start to finish -- I think about Andres Torres.
He was the unlikeliest Giant ever. He played in the unlikeliest season ever. Andres Torres was 2010. Heck, you don't even have to add "Giant" in back there. He was just about the unlikeliest player ever. A high-school track star, who took up baseball at a scout's suggestion, who kicked around the minor leagues as if he was a track star who never figured out how to play. He came over as a minor-league free agent, and he made the team in 2009. He was 31, and he was a fifth outfielder. He did fifth-outfielder things, and he was pretty good at it.
Torres had a great chance to be our generation's Donell Nixon, giving the Giants a great partial season before a miserable partial season got him booted out the door. It would have been fun. He would have made for a swell remember-that-guy punchline in 15 years, which fifth outfielders often do.
Instead, Torres took over the center field job the following season, wrenching it from the grasp of a guy who was paid $60 million to be the Giants' center fielder. Torres led off, and he got on base. He hit for power. He stole bases. And he played the best center field I think I've ever seen a Giant play, apologies to Darren Lewis, Tsuyoshi Shinjo, and Marvin Benard. When people talk about how good Willie Mays was in the field, I think, "Wow, he must have been even better than Torres!"
And without Andres Torres, the Giants don't win their division. No division, no playoffs. No playoffs, no parade. No parade, and I would have never found out about that delicious Red Bull beverage that certainly does not taste like peacock urine and was advertised on Tim Lincecum's hat. It's a slippery slope.
It's absurd to think about. That's why he's the one who is the personification of such an absurd season, where Cody Ross and Pat Burrell were included as prizes in the organizational Happy Meal, where a 21-year-old regained his velocity and dominated one of the best collections of hitters in baseball, and where a rookie catcher led them all. Torres is the most absurd story of them all.
Think about some comparable quotes from 2014.
"Boy, without Matt Kata hitting leadoff, I'm pretty sure the Cubs wouldn't have won the World Series.""Remember, it was Jeff Salazar who led the Indians in the regular season. Without him, they don't even make the playoffs, much less the World Series!"
Nonsense. Those quotes are nonsense, but they're roughly equivalent to what Torres did for a long-suffering franchise. Andres Torres doing what he did was complete nonsense. It was a story from W.P. Kinsella channelling Lewis Carroll, and we got to see it.
That's why Torres was beloved as a player, and we haven't even gotten to how he was beloved as a person. Can't remember who had the anecdote about Torres saying hello to everyone several times every day, but it's amazing. Peter Hartlaub recounts a story about his dad and Torres. A lot of players get the kindest/gentlest treatment, Manchurian Candidate-style, but with Torres, I believe it.
This isn't going to make sense to anyone else. If a White Sox fan sat me down and asked if I'd heard the good word about Scott Podsednik, I'd chew my arm off if it gave me a chance to escape. So don't pretend like we can explain this to other people. Loving Torres is something that's uniquely Giants fan.
And when Torres comes back next summer with the Mets, I'm going to give him a standing ovation as if he's Willie Mays carrying Joe Montana on his shoulders after they've returned from the first manned mission to Mars.
Thank you, thank you, thank you Andres Torres. You'll always be one of my favorite Giants of all-time, even if you only stuck around long enough to get 1,000 at-bats or so. You'll be missed.
* It was under the couch the whole time.
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Andres the Giant will certainly be missed.
Sure is dusty in here.
/grabs a kleenex
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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Atlantis is always in the last place you look.
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by rotorueter on Dec 7, 2011 12:06 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Isn't EVERYTHING in the last place you look? I mean, why the hell keep looking if you already found it?
- George Carlin
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Torres saved the Giants 2010 season with all the walkoffs he hit
Didn’t he have at least 4 walkoff hits in 2010? That was huge.
BAHAHAHAHA
JohnSheaHey John Shea
Bochy seems set with team now: “we think we have the coverage in the outfield and at short.”
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
This team is arguably worse than it was last year.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
It deserves reprinting
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
Edgar Renteria’s agent has reached out to Giants, says WS MVP would be glad to return. Not promising, though.
Huh?
To make that argument, I think you’d have to predict more going wrong in 2012 than in 2011. Hard to see that happenin’
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Nope
You just have to predict that everyone who is old will get older, and everyone who was hurt will play worse than they did before they got hurt, and that this might be the season where one of our good pitchers actually gets injured, which hasn’t happened yet, against all odds.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
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I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, the Giants strategy next year is basically: hey everyone who sucked and/or was hurt, play better!
Ask me about my blog.
by xanthan on Dec 7, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
And also, please don’t come back down to earth, Ryan Vogelsong.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Ugh.
Guy has had one good year amongst a history of terrible. I like him, he’s nice, he was amazing last year, but he is still under team control.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
BUT GIVE THAT GUY A NEW CONTRACT
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Except for Jonathan Sanchez — you turn into a Melky.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
Well sure
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, the Giants strategy next year is basically: hey everyone who sucked and/or was hurt, play better!
Sounds small for 2012, but their 3-5 year strategy is basically, “Hey, everyone who’s really good… don’t leave!” I can’t hate on that.
"Your curses do not compare to those of Houston fans or Detroit fans, and especially not to those of fans from the northside of Chicago. You are not Hamlet. You are Valerie Bertinelli. Your victim act is schlocky, and totally unconvincing. You fancy yourself tormented. You are merely insecure."
-- Scott Burton to Red Sox fans, 6/12/02
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Except unless you’re the Yankees, Red Sox, or Phillies, this is an untenable strategy. You need to develop from within so that you don’t have to pay market value for every WAR.
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Retention
Well, no one’s saying “don’t bother developing from within.” In fact, that’s a rare position for anyone to take about any team.
I’m making a comment about the big bucks tradeoff between retention and free agent shopping.
"Your curses do not compare to those of Houston fans or Detroit fans, and especially not to those of fans from the northside of Chicago. You are not Hamlet. You are Valerie Bertinelli. Your victim act is schlocky, and totally unconvincing. You fancy yourself tormented. You are merely insecure."
-- Scott Burton to Red Sox fans, 6/12/02
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Not so sure...
I have faith that Buster Posey is extremely likely to play better than Whiteside or Stewart did for the remainder of last year. Whether he is 100% is a different argument, but to assume he will only play as good as his replacements seems a tad pessimistic.
This also goes for Panda and broken wrists/shoulder issues. I would even be willing to extend the same expectations more tentatively toward Sanchez.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Plus Huff is projected to add 75 points of OPS
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BEST SHAPE OF HIS LYFE
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2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
I'm pretty sure ZiPS doesn't look at something like that
So any conditioning he does is a bonus. Worked for Panda.
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The way I see it
You hope Posey can replace Beltrans bat. The other changes in the OF I expect to be a wash: Pagan= Torres and I will be pleasantly surprised if Melky has another good season.
The infield has not changed with some horrible amalgimation of Pill/Huff/Belt still being at first, a fragile Freddy Sanchez being expected to help carry the offense with Fontenot waiting in the wings, Crawford with good defense but swinging a box of cooked Kraft Macaroni and Cheese at the plate, Pablo hopefully will continue to be Pablo.
The team looks like a wash from the way we ended last year except now we are down a SP and have to rely on Zito for a full season.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Why is the mac and cheese still in the box if it’s cooked?
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I was using it more as a unit of measurement, then actually a box.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
You have to put it back into the box in order to swing it all at once.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Or you can take it as the insanity of everything. Your choice.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
You need to start thinking more outside of the box.
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by ResDog on Dec 7, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think the 2012 Giants will top their team OPS+ of 89
And that really doesn’t seem like that bold a prediction.
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I'll take the under.
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You're on!
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Even money!
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Psst.
He doesn’t actually pay!
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Goofus does pay
it’s just in Nigerian Naira. Current conversion rate 1 Nigerian naira = 0.0062 US dollars. How is that even possible ?
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I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Dec 7, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
He’s scribbled notes down. Don’t worry.
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It’s being kept in the same drawer as the list of white people, isn’t it?
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Dec 7, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
*On* the same list.
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Sure we have a good defensive shortstop
But the outfield is gonna suck if we have Huff playing left and Cabrera playing center (WHY!?!)
This doesn't sound like the real Bruce Bochy
@JohnSheaHey
Bochy wants Huff getting time in left not Belt because Belt is the future at first and one position will help his confidence.
Maybe it’s the Bruce Bochy that feels he didn’t help Belt out much by moving him around defensively as a rookie.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
You guys are not focusing on the important things.
Belt will start at first next year.
In FRESNO.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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HOORAY FOR ME
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Belt will be an everyday starter in the major leagues before the season is over
He just won’t do it in America.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
xxx
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
by jctGamer on Dec 7, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Always rec'd
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Greened for truthiness
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
JohnSheaHey John Shea
Bochy wants Huff getting time in left not Belt because Belt is the future at first and one position will help his confidence.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
That would be fine if it weren’t for PILL
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
This is all because he went to Winter Ball and proved himself
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I’ve been thinking that acquiring Pagan may cost Schierholtz more playing time than Belt. I could see Bochy going with a Huff/Pagan/Cabrera starting outfield with Nate as 4th OF/defensive replacement.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
RAGE
SIGN THIS MAN
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Not that I listen particularly closely to what comes out of the org
But if they’re looking out over the players they have an determining that their offense is going to be average, they’re insane.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
BUT HUFF LOST WEIGHT
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
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BEST SHAPE OF HIS LIFE
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
by Falconer88 on Dec 7, 2011 12:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
HE TOLD ME HE WAS GOING TO DO IT!
HE TOLD ME!
<3
by InTimmyWeTrust on Dec 7, 2011 12:10 PM PST reply actions 10 recs
HETOLDTOLL ME HE WAS GOING TO DO IT!
HETOLDTOLL ME!
<3
by ThePasswordisWillieMcgee on Dec 7, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions 8 recs
green plz <3
MOON LANDING? BEAR GRYLLS!
by Anonymous1337 on Dec 7, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously
“Yeah…Yes!”
It’s like Joe Buck snuck in to his skin for a second. I also love how he tries to keep it serious and starts getting super prepared for his AB.
by InTimmyWeTrust on Dec 7, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
That was beautiful, Grant. These damn allergies, you know.
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I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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I forgot about Matt Kata.
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Another piece of "The 25" leaves us
And this one hurts more because he was a genuinely nice guy.
Thank you, Andres!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 7, 2011 12:14 PM PST reply actions
Thanks for the input, Mr. Black Or White!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 7, 2011 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
I'm attracted to genuine people
with a twinkle in their eye, and Andres Torres is that kinda guy. I love love him.
by City Girl on Dec 7, 2011 12:14 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
* It was under the couch the whole time.
It’s actually cloaked in the SF Bay.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 7, 2011 12:17 PM PST reply actions
Andres, my adopted son.
I very much appreciated the value you contributed to the team in excess of the salary you were paid. Your UZR will be missed.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Dec 7, 2011 12:17 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
LOL EMOTIONLESS PARENT
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
You forgot "You're nothing to me now"
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He's not nothing.
He is an opponent, to be destroyed.
Just win, baby.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
If my kids turn out to be like you, I’ll hold their heads underwater myself.
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If you hold their heads underwater, they will almost certainly end up like GP.
by capn on Dec 7, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
OOH!! LACK OF OXYGEN BURN!!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 7, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
Ha.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Would you like some Aloe for that burn ?
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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Someone should install an emotion chip in GP one of these days.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
I'm kidding, people
I like Andres, and I hope he does well. Just not against us, and not in any way that could harm the Giants.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
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I knew you were
but I still think you could use the chip.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
I mentioned something like this in the last thread or the one before
If he hit for the cycle against the Giants and singlehandedly delivered victory to the Mets, it would not upset me.
Well, it would, but I wouldn’t be upset with him.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
by El Person on Dec 7, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I've got it.
You are Agent Van Alden.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Andres Torres will always be a Giant.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
by EliminateMe on Dec 7, 2011 12:17 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
Sadly, he won't qualify
Those honored have played a minimum of nine seasons for the San Francisco Giants, or five seasons with at least one All-Star selection as a Giant.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Exceptions are dangerous.
They changed it to 9 years to let in J.T. Snow and then….
…HOLY GOD – IT’S MARVIN BENARD OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE!!!!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
I have crayons and oodles of art supplies going unused. We could just add him in ourselves.
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
WE SHOULD BUY ANOTHER BRICK
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
I'm thinking more driveway chalk than crayons
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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There should be an exception for World Series Champions.
by Mycroft's Brother on Dec 7, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This seems reasonable. And I don’t think Chris Ray will come busting through the door with this exception either.
have a wreck!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
Screw the Wall of Fame
The 2010 team deserves its own memorial
I don’t want Andres Torres memorialized in the same place as Jose Guillen.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
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Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2011 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
Amazing player, I'm genuinely sad to see him go
Great, great Giant. Should never have to buy a beer in the bay area.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
I’M ALL OUT OF LOVE
I’M SO LOST WITHOUT YOU
I KNOW YOU WERE RIGHT BELIEVING FOR SO LONG
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Like one where Sabean isn’t drunk-dialing other GMs?
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
One where Aaron Rowand hits a homerun using nothing but his eyelid.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 7, 2011 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
He can’t keep his eye on the ball well enough for that.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
I just feel like we could have the same rotation, plus enough money/spare parts to address SS and add OF depth with a plan as simple as “Let Sanchez go. Let Affeldt go. Keep Torres.”
We’d have the savings, Ross would still be on the table, Ramirez would still be around as a trade piece, Belt would be playing, and the greatest appreciable difference to the roster would be that we’d have slightly fewer outfielders at this exact moment.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
We could have won the bid on Nakajima and paid him basically a full salary with the Affeldt money alone.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
They traded Andres Torres for Angel Pagan and Ramon Ramirez for Angel Pagan. Two trades.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
You mean...
Andres Torres for Angel and Ramon Ramirez for Pagan.
dave burba signed a ball for me as a kid in a game when he got hit in the ass with a comebacker
alway’s a burba-shaped hole in my heart next to andres’.
by MadisonBumpleganger on Dec 7, 2011 12:20 PM PST reply actions
Melky Cabrera
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
by scout6 on Dec 7, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
go crazy
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
DON’T MIND IF I—
/bursts into tears
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increased the RDF
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met the quota for Cabreras on a roster.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
Players don't get more lovable than Andres the Giant
The rare player that appreciates the fans as much as they appreciate him.
Here he before the parade right before he signed my jersey:
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I was right up front for the parade, and when Torres was scampering around, women were literally throwing their cell phones at me, begging me to get pictures of him. It was kind of awesome.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 7, 2011 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
I will miss you Torres,
but I am too pissed off at this offseason strategy to properly acknowledge what you meant to this team and the fans. Good luck.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
by scout6 on Dec 7, 2011 12:21 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Same here. The sadness is losing the battle against my overwhelming, general rage.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
RAGE
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
by Falconer88 on Dec 7, 2011 12:24 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Was this before or after they ripped his heart out?
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
It’s difficult to speak with a mouth full of broken heart.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2011 12:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
We should be the ones crying
wait…we are. So sad.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Fucking jerks.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I agree.
Fuck Sabean and fuck Bochy. Right now I could care less about whether this move will help the Giants in the end. If Sabean and Bochy are going to COMPLETELY MISHANDLE the offseason, the least they could do is bring Torres back as a backup. He might just be the most beloved Giant from a beloved World Series team.
Always a Giant, baby.
by Here Be Giants on Dec 7, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
accurate interpretation
to assimilate: (egocentric)
Tears of sadness…
to accommodate: (healthy cognitive development)
Tears of joy…
JohnSheaHey John Shea
Seibu Lions accept Yankees’ bid for SS Hiroyuki Nakajima. Giants didn’t submit a post, Sabean said. Nakajima wanted to play in the West.
I hate this FO so much.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
I can’t remember the last time I was this pissed off at the Giants. Maybe Alderson for Sanchez.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
I’m feeling pessimistic, too. I already tweeted this, but the Giants’ solution to the worst offense in the NL is Melky Cabrera and Angel Pagan. Oh, and a full season of Brandon Crawford.
Let that soak in for awhile.
Ask me about my blog.
by xanthan on Dec 7, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If they would just sign Furcal, most of this rage would go away.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Funny how a 34-year-old who had an OBP under .300 last year and hasn’t been healthy since 2009 is the answer to all our prayers.
His OBP was under .300 too!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
No, it's wishing and hoping
and thinking and praying
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
2 MILLION DOLLARS
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
That they would have gotten back if they failed to reach a deal
It was an absolutely no risk opportunity that they passed on.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 7, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
ASK WHY YOU MOTHER FUCKERS, YOU WORTHLESS PIECES OF SHIT. YOU HAVE A PRESS PASS NOT JUST TO REPORT FACTUAL ITEMS OF WHAT DID OR DIDN’T HAPPEN BUT TO OCCASIONALLY GIVE US INSIGHT!!!!! ASK WHY!!!
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 7, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
#RDF
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
by Falconer88 on Dec 7, 2011 12:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Meet the new misfits and castoffs
Melky Cabrera, Angel Pagan, and Emmanuel Burriss.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Pretty much me too
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 7, 2011 12:52 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I dont want to give Ross two years
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
#SFGiants didn’t made a single offer to Cody Ross camp, I’m told. Five other teams are in the mix. Likely one of them will offer 2 years.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I would at the right price
As in, “ok as a 4th OF”
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting. I'm Twittering now (well maybe not literally now): @GoofusMcP
One more RHH that can play multiple positions would be cool
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No doubt
I’m on the Furcal express bandwagon
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Yeah. It isn’t totally comfortable, but it beats the rusty rickshaw (Crawford) or being dragged to your destination by rabid sewer rates (Burriss).
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
The Furcal Express bandwagon is currently in the shop.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
I can testify, through personal knowledge, that Andres Torres is a genuinely wonderful person. I will miss him a lot.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
And we’re supposed to trust you? A faceless person on the internet?
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 7, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
But her face is right there! Upper right!
Celebrating 60 years of NBC News Today, January 14, 1952 - January 14, 2012
I can vouch for the fact the kdl has a face.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2011 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
I can’t confirm it but I believe it to be true.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Holy crap, you guys are right; I’ve never noticed a picture of her before.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 7, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
AND DON’T YOU FORGET IT
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2011 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
Torres would irritate the security guards at times because he would be signing autographs for fans, talking to them close to game time when the guards want all the people all the fans to go back to their seats.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Good work Grant. Like I wasn’t going to miss him enough already.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2011 12:30 PM PST reply actions
WTF aren't there about 800 gifs in this thread already?
fuckit, I hate everything
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Soon as the Mets come to Nats stadium I’m going to go give Andres a one man standing O. Possibly my all time favorite SF Giant and I’ve watched nearly everyone who ever put on the uni.
I love Andres.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
If not for Matt Cain, Andres Torres would have been my favorite player on this team by far. I’m pretty much as numb to the team now as I have ever been. Hrm.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
That and being dead. This just isn’t your day.
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He’s in the next tier, with Tim and Pablo and Madison.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
All of those guys except Torres are still on the team
yet people’s staircases are scuffed. I still like the Giants ok.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
That’s what happens when the sections that are removed come from the top tier, though.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
And I still like the Giants, and will still be in their corner come April, but it’s hard no to be emotionally affected when my emotional attachments are tampered with.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
Giant “The Forbin Project” Pain laughs at your puny human emotions.
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Wow. I am impressed by the reference.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
He’s already set the bar too high for himself for me to be impressed anymore.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 7, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
Really, as sad as I am that Andres is gone, a team that still features Buster, Pablo, Matt, Timmy, Madbum, Romo, and Nate and conceivably even Belt is still a pretty easy one for me to love.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
This, although...
…I’d probably be talking like Howie is if they traded my Panda
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting. I'm Twittering now (well maybe not literally now): @GoofusMcP
If they ever trade Cain, I’ll hold GiantPain’s kid’s head underwater.
Celebrating 60 years of NBC News Today, January 14, 1952 - January 14, 2012
GP will be sad to see him go, but he’ll realize that his kid was doing nothing to help the team win, and so he’ll move on quickly.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 7, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
Cain would be up there, but Timmy...
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
It’s really troubling to me, on a personal level, that the Giants have jettisoned two of my favorite players (I was one of the biggest J Sanchez cheerleaders) without getting appreciably better.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
I’m probably more sad about this than I was when they traded Ortiz to the Braves, and Ortiz was my first official favorite player of my life.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
And I hated the Braves.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Ortiz, to me, was the original Sanchez. His games just went on and on and on. I remember in the 2002 season he had half a dozen or so starts where he actually hit the 100 pitch mark before he had managed to become the pitcher of record. Not only would he walk lots of guys, but he’d get to 2 strikes and then there’d just be a litany of foul balls hit while the count slowly worked it’s way to 3-2. I saw a game of his in Chicago on just a brutally hot day and 2.5 hours in we were still in the 4th inning.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
I was 14 and he was a magical winner who magically got out of his innings by magic and won games. Right player, right time. If his clone were playing for the Giants today, I’d probably have much different feelings.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Well, I wasn’t 14 when they traded him. That came later. That was when he became the favorite. I was 17 when they traded him. Which was still pretty young. And he was still a magical winner with all the same qualifications. And then he kept magically winning in Atlanta, digging the knife.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
My childhood hero (because I was lucky enough to have my childhood at the right time) was Willie McCovey and I was probably pretty close to 14 when they traded him, so I know how you felt. Actually, withstanding that soul-destroying parade of the Mays/Perry/Bonds/McCovey trades was the greatest crucible of my Giants fandom. If I could get through that, nothing could kill me.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
Mine was Bonds. When I was 10 I was on the Pirates and started watching them. Barry became my favorite player and is the reason I am a Giants fan today.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Can’t do much better than Barry. I loved his father as a kid, too. I remember going to a Labor Day doubleheader against the Braves in 1973, when he should have become the game’s first 40/40 man. He hit 3 HRs that day giving him 38 for the season and history was so close it seemd we could reach out and grab it. He didn’t hit number 39 until his penultimate PA of the season and later admitted that he got caught up trying to hit HRs that last month and took himself out of his game.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
I’ve never really looked at Bobby’s career much. What I saw in The 10th Inning is about all in know.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Bobby did everything great. True 5 tooler. Fantastic OF who could easily have been a great CF in his early years if he hadn’t had Mays for a teammate. He’s a Hall of Very Good player whose alcohol troubles prevented him from being even better. Both he and Murcer felt personally betrayed by that trade and I think it hurt both their careers.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
He was ahead of his time.
His big “fault” was he struck out too much.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
He held the record for Ks for, what about 30 years? And the year he set it (well, technically, the year he set it for the second time) he hit .302. His BABIP that year was .387
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
LOL old
I loved his father as a kid, too.
How did you even know Bobby when he was a kid?
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Bobby Bonds 40-40
If I recall correctly, he lost a home run that year on a ball that Lon Simmons thought was mistakenly called foul.
"Your curses do not compare to those of Houston fans or Detroit fans, and especially not to those of fans from the northside of Chicago. You are not Hamlet. You are Valerie Bertinelli. Your victim act is schlocky, and totally unconvincing. You fancy yourself tormented. You are merely insecure."
-- Scott Burton to Red Sox fans, 6/12/02
http://espn.go.com/magazine/burton_20020612.html
Guess I should include shuffling Marichal off, too, forcing him to play his decline years in front of crowds that didn’t care about him, or worse (Dodger Juan, the single worst sight of my life).
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
by Roger on Dec 7, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
They got appreciably wealthier!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
I guess that’s representative of how many folks feel. It’s not so much the idea of losing the players as it is losing the players without seeing a clear improvement, at least at this vantage point.
Celebrating 60 years of NBC News Today, January 14, 1952 - January 14, 2012
As the freakout percolates I would like to take the opportunity to remind everyone of this:
The 2010 San Francisco Giants Opening Day Lineup
1. Rowand, CF
2. Renteria, SS
3. Sandoval, 3B
4. Huff, 1B
5. DeRosa, LF
6. Molina, C
7. Bowker, RF
8. Uribe, 2B
by capn on Dec 7, 2011 12:36 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Man, I wish we had Good Uribe at SS again.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
We just have to get lucky again!
Of course!
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
All the best, Andres! (Keep plunking Phillies, RamRam!!)
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2011 12:38 PM PST reply actions
If it were based on nicknames, it should Matsui, right?
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 7, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
This is my wallpaper on my work computer.
And everyone who passes by asks about it (I’m in Portland, OR).
It think it’ll stay up there forever now. Sniff….
video 9/27: Amy G's Giants Xclusive Andres Torres
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/video?PID=JDVoIkaCSwTDPEVXtgryl2qdWiAkSrSZ
Torres:
“I can’t wait to come back next year…I love this place.
I want to be a Giant, no matter how.”
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"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
I seriously fucking love that man.
Celebrating 60 years of NBC News Today, January 14, 1952 - January 14, 2012
You will be missed Andres. Thank you for everything.
Boo
by LosGigantesTodoElTiempo on Dec 7, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
KLaw likes the Mets side of the deal more
Thinks Torres is a little better player than Pagan
Doesn’t think either will get to 2010 levels.
Karabell said none of this matters unless the Giants play Brandon Belt every day.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
LOL HIM
Playing belt everyday
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
by Falconer88 on Dec 7, 2011 12:44 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Fucking fuck
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
by Tortured on Dec 7, 2011 12:43 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
THEY'RE GIVING AWAY ALL OUR LATINOS CALIENTES
Celebrating 60 years of NBC News Today, January 14, 1952 - January 14, 2012
I also have to mention
the Badonkadonk quotient on the Giants has taken a considerable hit.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Yes, it has. Buster has but one ass, and magnificent thought it may be, it cannot carry the whole team.
Celebrating 60 years of NBC News Today, January 14, 1952 - January 14, 2012
J Sanchez and Torres cancelled each other out in that dept
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Damn, this trade is looking worse and worse by the minute.
by jhawx on Dec 7, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Goodbye Andres
Hope you come back to wear a Giants uniform again.
As for many of the McCoven
I’m too old to get as bent out of shape as some of you.
Enjoy youth.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
Sobbing sobs
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
by Tortured on Dec 7, 2011 12:47 PM PST reply actions 14 recs
Thanks for the memories, Andres
First player to win the Willie Mac Award and the World Series in the same year…and at this rate, he’ll be the only player to do so for a long time.
I loved Torres even in his down year. Posted this in the previous thread
I don’t bring up too much personal stuff, as this last year was very difficult at times and very amazing at others. But anyway, my current favorite memory of Andres:
“My dad and I were driving highway 88 to visit my grandfather, who at the time, looked like he wasn’t going to make it two more days, and we pulled over in the Sierras to listen to that 16 pitch epic at-bat that drew the walk in the bottom of the 9th loss against the Padres.”
Baseball’s been the only common interest that’s linked my dad, my grandad and me, and I don’t know, something about listening to the game because my grandfather at the time couldn’t was very important.
by Cap M on Dec 7, 2011 12:53 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Can't wait for the 2010 reunions
when Andres will come back to the ballpark sporting orange and black.
Also—let’s bring him back to the organization when he retires.
Krukow (for what it’s worth) mentioned his return this morning on Murph & Mac. He also said this trade tore Sabean up. Have at it.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
If he is saying Sabean didn’t really want to trade Torres, he is full of shit.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
agreed but I like this sentiment too
If he is sayingSabeandidn’t really want to trade Torres, heis full of shit.
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
Id prefer this to the Rockies
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
According to @nickcafardo, Red Sox might go after Cody Ross to play RF. He’s seen as a better budgetary fit after David Ortiz accepted arb.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Anything to keep him out of the NL west
I like the Sox only for the reason my friend is a die hard.
Cody has a lot of game left, I wish him well.
Andres Torres was too good for this sinful team.
I hope he balances out his meds and drives the ball all over Citi Field, running wild on the basepaths until they don’t even remember who Jose Reyes was.
Seriously, this was a pretty smart baseball decision* but it’s breaking my heart.
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 7, 2011 12:55 PM PST reply actions
*Unlike the Nakajima thing, or lack thereof. TWO MILLION DOLLARS. TWO MILLION. TWO. You could have traded Kepp for a bag of balls for the posting fee, and negotiated a pretty team-friendly contract. Keep Crawford in AAA for a year, shift Nakajima to 2B next year, jesus goddamn christ on a crutch.
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 7, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
I just think rightly or wrongly, (most wrongly) Sabean and Bochy were very uncomfortable with the prospect of having a very important part of the team being a person with which they have no idea how personal interactions will go. And then selling that acquisition to the owners.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
I think they just think the posting fee system is bullshit.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
A very important part of the team? He’d be signed as a backup, utility infielder.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 7, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
Could be
I thought they thought of him as a starting SS.
I could well be wrong.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
with the Yankees he will at most a backup, utility infielder, because well you know
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
He’d probably end up out performing Crawford, so then he should start, but he could have been signed as a backup, like the Yankees did, like the Giants were looking for.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 7, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
He would probably outperform Crawford, but unless he loses one or more important limbs, he’s virtually certain to outpeform Burriss.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
You guys think it’s funny to continually but indirectly bring up Roger Metzger.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
1. Roger Metzger did not lose any limbs, only partial digits.
2. If you asked me who I’d rather have at shortstop in 2011, Burriss or Metzger, I’d lean to 64-year-old Metzger.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Yes, I remember it well and being throughly creeped out by the entire thing included his troubles coming back. Those were the days when he had to come back to make suitable money.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
BTW, the Yankees didn’t necessarily posted the highest amount. That was the one that was accepted.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Wait, I thought the highest bid had to be accepted or rejected. There’s no right to choose a different bid.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I seem to remember the Twins weren’t the highest bidder last year.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Posting is a sealed, silent auction according to the Wiki article (FWIW), but that seems to jive with what I recall as well. The posting team only finds out the highest amount, but not the identity of the team, and has to choose to post without knowing the team.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I NEVER SAW THAT
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 7, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
I like that it was written by the little squirt herself. And what about that part in her hair? Satanic, I tell you.
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by SituationalLefty on Dec 7, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions
I love Andres too, but how come we loved him through the bad 2011 yet turned on Aubrey Huff? Is it because of Andres’ story, or because of the salary difference?
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by rxmeister on Dec 7, 2011 12:58 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Andres Torres was not a bad baseball player in 2011
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 7, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
I mean, Andres' only problem last season was not playing enough
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 7, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
That, and a .632 OPS
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by Goofus on Dec 7, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, because the elite fielding is pointless in a center fielder.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
I don't disagree
But the team’s biggest problem was scoring.
Replacing defense with offense might turn this into a game of the gopher holes, now we lose 4-3 instead of 2-1. Has to be better than losing 2-1 1-0 all the time.
As I've said, I loved me some him
I just think:
- His 2010 offense looked more and more fluky
- I had concerns about his ability to bounce back at all given his age and “issues”
I was hoping to see him come back as a 4th OF, but that wasn’t a given. In my mind they’ve aquired a guy who has a better chance to return to form (track record and age) and lesser chance that his 2011 is his new norm.
If that means giving up some defense, and a bullpen arm, I’m ok with it.
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So you think 2011 was his true talent level, offensively?
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
That's just it
I don’t think anyone has an idea what his true talent level is. ZiPS has him at a 91OPS+, but it seems like with a carrer like Torres, using what’s worked to predict other players likely becomes a lot less accurate with Torres.
He’s not a guy I’d feel comfortable counting on as a starter.
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I wouldn’t want him leading off. I’d start him though.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
yep
He was a pretty meh hitter and a tremendous defender at a position where above-average offense is a bonus.
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 7, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
An OPS+ of 82 seems somewhere below "meh" to me
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Well, Andres had a wRC+ of 85 in 2011
Which is, as Goofus says, a bit below “meh” after all. But it’s not basement-dwelling or anything. Crawford’s problem is that, while a superstar defender at SS with an 80-90 wRC+ is workable in the majors, this team needs all the offense it can squeeze out and I don’t think Brandon has much to squeeze.
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 7, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
This is the thing that puzzles me: the people who are adamant that Torres was “an average player” last year tend to be the same people who are adamant that Crawford is irredeemably horrible.
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Why does that puzzle you? Torres hit much better in 2011 than I ever expect Crawford to hit, and Torres was a better defender than I expect Crawford to be.
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Torres is probably one of the top five defensive center fielders in the game. (Or near it.) Crawford looks good on defense, but I’m not sure he’s that good. And, as you mention, I don’t think he’s much of a hitter. His ZiPS (70 OPS+) looks pretty bad.
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Also, if Crawford is an 85 OPS+ hitter he’s definitely a starter. I just don’t think he’s that good of a hitter. No one like his hitting, not even scouts, nor do the projection systems, or the advanced stats.
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Come on, GP
Crawford’s defense is really good, probably as good as Torres’. But answer my question – how well would he have to hit to get loved by you?
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
I dunno
Probably around a 75-80 wRC+ would make me think he’s worth playing every day. That’d be a 15-20% improvement over what he did last year.
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Also, I thoroughly dispute your first sentence.
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Based on?
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
Torres's stats in the defensive metrics
Unless Crawford is literally the best defensive shortstop in baseball right now, he couldn’t match the kind of runs-saved numbers Torres has put up for the past three years.
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Well, the problem there is with the metrics, none of them actually work so it’s strictly strawhat arguing, which is pointless.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
That’s not true at all. Just because a tool isn’t perfect doesn’t mean you should ignore it.
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I wonder if, defensive skills being equal, more runs get saved in the outfield because the cost of a non-out for an outfield hit is generally more bases than for an infield hit.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I was just thinking out loud.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
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Torres hit .221/.312/.330 last year. Crawford’s ZiPS projection for next year is .225/.291/.336.
Hang on, ima work that out …
Using the linear weights figures Nivra posted earlier, Torres’s line is worth 2.5 runs more than Crawford’s if you project them both over a full season.
Crawford’s probably not as exceptional a fielder as Torres is, but (a) he’s very good, and (b) the offensive bar for a shortstop is around five runs lower.
Any difference is trivial.
Why are you using such weird methodology
You should be consistent. Either use both their lines from last year or use both their ZiPS projections.
Also, let’s say I accept your numbers. 2.5 more runs on offense, and I expect Torres is a good 4-5 runs better on defense.
Are you struggling to understand why I like one player who I think is more than half a win better than another?
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As I said, what puzzles me is the repeated assertion that Torres was an average player last year. If you believe that (and I think it’s pretty silly, but who knows), how do you reconcile that with disdain for a player who projects to have similar performance?
How does Crawford project to be average? Shortstops don’t hit well, but .225/.291/.336 is still bad.
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Man, I didn’t think this argument was going to prove this abstruse.
I don’t think Crawford projects to be average. Nor am I comparing Torres going forward to Crawford going forward, or Torres’ long-term history to Crawford’s long-term history.
What I’m saying is that it is an article of faith among most of the smarter posters here that Torres was actually a good player (or at least “average”) in 2011. If you place this much weight on defense, you have to give Crawford’s skill set more respect.
Every time I read “abstruse” I think “obtuse”. I don’t know why that is.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
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Project 2011 WAR out to fulltime
Torres: 2.1 WAR for 398 PA…. That’s over 3 WAR for a full season of 600 PA.
Crawford: 0.5 WAR for 220 PA… That’s less than 1.5 WAR for 600 PA.
Considering 2 WAR is average, then Torres is above average and Crawford is below.
Now repeat using weighted 3-yr projections and MLE’s (like ZiPs) and you can start to understand the Torres love.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 7, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
That being said...
Personally, I’m not offended by starting Crawford.
I think he’ll at least repeat 2011, which would net 1-1.5 WAR, mostly on defense and positional adjustment. I am also hopeful that he can improve to a 70-75 wRC+ or so, which would put him at average or above.
It’s definitely an improvement over starting Cabrera/Tejada and their collective -0.6 WAR over 500 PA.
Crawford has value, even if someone like Barmes would have produced better value.
I wouldn’t be offended by it, but it seems like an unnecessary commitment to a player who might well prove to be truly terrible. Commit a few million to Gonzalez or Cedeno, start Fontenot at either second or short every time you’re facing a right-hander, and let Crawford hone his craft in Fresno till Freddy gets hurt.
Thank you.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Ayup.
Torres wasn’t blocking a possible offensive solution.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 7, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
Because Torres wasn't bad.
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This is like Ray Durham all over again
Dude was nothing but good and always gets crap for his term as a Giant.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 7, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
He was fine to start, but had breakable legs and a clank mitt at the end.
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But my immediate mental imagery of the guy is him playing a grounder to second like a kid playing his first game and allowing the game winning run to cross the plate. All the while I’ve dropped to my knees and yelling NOOOOOOOOOOO WHAT ARE YOU DOING YOU IDIOT!
That play was what started a standard curse in our household, when I spontaneously screamed out “crap-a-doodle-fuck!” in response. Some of our friends have picked it up as well.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Torres still gave a shit
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And he was better than Aubrey Huff
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Torres tried so hard that it probably hurt his productivity.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 7, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
Huff was actually bad.
And he’s kind of a jerk (funny, but a jerk nontheless) and Andres is the nicest human being on the planet.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Torres 2011 WAR 2.1 in 112 games
Huff 2011 WAR -.6 in 150 games
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 7, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
Torres wRC+ 85 with great CF defense
Huff wRC+ 84 with average first base defense
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 7, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
I read somewhere Huff saved 6 runs on defense
Which is solid for 1B. His negative WAR must have been positional penalty for horrid offense.
Exactly
I am not sure why this is even being disputed.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 7, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
Torres worked his ass off and kept at it. Huff showed up out of shape and compounded that during the season. And apparently whined when he lost out on playing time at 1B.
Plus, Torres was charming, infectious and enthusiastic. And handsome. Don’t forget the handsome.
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by Ott on Dec 7, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
both Bochy and Sabean have stated flatly that Emmanuel Burriss will be on the team and will be used at short.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
I like to think of that as their saying it in a very flat tone
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 7, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
There's still time to take the under, Goofus.
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My "over" assumed Crawford at SS anyway
So Burriss can’t really screw things up any more if he hits vs. RHP
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When he’s playing 2b for 3 months while Sanchez is on the DL
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 7, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
Are you saying Burriss couldn't hit even worse than Crawford?
Because I think he could.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 7, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
He can hit double!
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by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
speed never slumps!!!
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by RichHerreraHomer on Dec 7, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
What if he doesn’t hit well in spring training?
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 7, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
Torres is useless on the team, but Burriss has a future.
That should tell you a lot.
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by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
Baseball America doesn’t list him as a minor league free agent, so I believe he’s still with the Rockies.
by free f.p. #14 on Dec 7, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
I remember hearing they released him.
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by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, it looks like he was DFA’d, but he probably cleared waivers.
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by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
According to BB-ref
November 20, 2011: Released by the Colorado Rockies.
You were right the first time. In that case, I would guess he hasn’t signed anywhere.
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by free f.p. #14 on Dec 7, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
My first thought was...
“eeew…”
Then I thought, … “Wait a sec… he’ll probably outhit Crawford. He might give up some runs on defense, but he’ll make it back on offense. Might not be a bad move.”
Then I looked at his stats:
2011 Crawford: 60 wRC+
2011 Manny: 36 wRC+(!!!)
Bochy and Sabean’s obsession with him is so weird.
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by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
No weirder than their love for Velez.
Which is to say, still pretty damned weird.
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You’re right. I had totally forgotten about that. Mostly because I could never hate Eugenio, for some reason, even when he sucked.
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by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
I will always love him for running over SIRM when I was at the yard. That was such a great day.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
That was awesome. Eugenio was a total sweetheart, also. I’m a sucker for nice guys.
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by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t know. I won’t say he’s not, because I don’t know him. I’m sure he’s a lovely person. I’ve just never had the chance to interact with him because he doesn’t seem willing to interact with fans, in my experience.
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by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
That makes him unlovely.
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He could certainly be nicer to the fans. When I’m around. (I’m sure people have Manny being nice stories. I’m working off a relatively SSS.)
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by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
Chica, if they’re not nice to your charming self, they’re not nice to anyone.
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by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
“Oh god, there’s that blond girl who like baseball. So obnoxious.”
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 7, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
More like, “Oh god, there’s that blond girl who’s always talking to us and asking us to sign shit. So obnoxious.”
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by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
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by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve seen Manny when he was being nice to fans. It was in DC so it was likely his friends and family, but still, he seemed quite nice. Probably just more comfortable.
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by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
I remember the pre-Freddy days when Velez and Manny split time at 2B.
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by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
IT WAS MAGIC INSIDE
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by Ott on Dec 7, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
It's so strange to feel this sad.
He was barely on the team, had a down year and is getting older. But he is Andres Torres, one of the nicest people to have ever played and was so much fun to watch jump around and go crazy. He will be missed by most.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Dec 7, 2011 1:04 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Also from Baggs' blog post I linked upthread...
It’s hard not to smile when you think of Torres with his tree-trunk bat and his choppy little sprinter’s arms. Any time a teammate hit a home run, Torres swore it was a called shot — including Renteria’s series-winning drive in Game 6.
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by jhiat00 on Dec 7, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
All good reasons. Fuck you Huff
Add that he didn’t block a better player either.
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by rxmeister on Dec 7, 2011 1:06 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Andres
It’s a bless.
Going to miss that guy.
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I’m sure the PTBNL wouldn’t be substantial but I don’t remember seeing that reported earlier.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 7, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
Goes right into Sabes’ Shiny Shirt Fund
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Good thing it hadn’t gotten out.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
Baby alien loose on the ship. They should have just followed the damn quarantine procedures.
Also, like, a medical checkup after dude’s miraculous discovery might have revealed something growing inside of him.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
This is why you need a full crew of competent officers. A crew of seven like this just can’t handle a problem of this magnitude.
Sorry: A crew of six. That one guy’s dead.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
Five.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder what the cat represents.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
Something evil, no doubt. It’s a cat.
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I wonder if Sigourney Weaver says “You bitch!” in every one of these movies.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
Hey, that spaceship exploded three times.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
Well, good thing she already undressed to put on this spacesuit.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
All kidding aside, I like the movie.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
3 is the one in the prison? Before today, that’s the one I’d seen recently enough to remember. I watched parts of Resurrection and it was so spectacularly bad I could only imagine it must have been intentionally so. And for all the complaining I’ve heard about how Whedon’s original script was great… it can be hard to imagine based on what I saw.
My understanding was that Scott did Alien as a horror movie and then Cameron did the sequel as a special effects vehicle, which drove up the action almost necessarily.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
Both very good movies.
I like Aliens more because it strikes me as a flawless action film, and those are extraordinarily rare (plus I just plain enjoy them). Alien was also good, but didn’t make a ton of sense. I hate how that shrieking harpy is put in charge of Dallas’s sonar thing, and how she can’t give advice other than “GO GO OH MY GOD OH MY GOD”. And I hate the stupid rooms which make so sense, such as the one where the cat hides before Alien makes its first kill. What the hell is that room? The chain and water room? And so on.
Still a good movie, though, and one that I’ve liked more on repeat viewings.
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1. The shrieking girl shrieks because she isn’t trained for that stuff. These people are basically truck drivers, not intergalactic soldiers.
2. My understanding is that the “chain and water” room is just below the coolant system, and the water is condensation.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
I am almost positives there exists a place on the internet where you can find the blueprint of the ship.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
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There is. I’ve seen it. I’ve heard the explanation and I refuse to accept it because I AM RIGHT.
As for the harpy…. Just put Ripley on the radio. Is that so hard? Put shrieking girl in the corner and give her some tea.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
The sci-fi cliche of the important but absolutely pointless & dangerous room was so lampooned in Galaxy Quest
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
The cat represents humanity. Juxtaposed against the coldness of the Alien and of Ash, who represents the Company. Ripley goes back for the cat.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Makes sense.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Source: Hanley Ramirez’s rep asked the Marlins for a restructured deal. MIA upset with this, will now be looking to trade Hanley (more).
So Belt and who else for Hanley? I will not include MadBum.
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by Montreal Giants Fan on Dec 7, 2011 1:12 PM PST reply actions
There’s no fucking way, but I’ll naturally allow myself to get sucked into this idea.
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Mayor of Smug.
How about Sabean?
Hanley can SS/GM
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Your mom's a girl
Zito's wife?
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 7, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
It’s not about what the player means to you, it’s about what he means to the other team, at least as far as whether or not they will accept the offer.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 7, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
This is "no shit"
Therefore I can’t even see what Belt’s worth in a package for Hanley out in Florida. They already have better Belt.
Can we con them into waking wilson? They could have the unstoppable duo of Bell and Wilson!
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by Montreal Giants Fan on Dec 7, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaant
Belt and Brown and Hembree maybe? They’d need ML talent too, so Nate or something? That still doesn’t feel like enough.
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We can toss in Pill!
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by Montreal Giants Fan on Dec 7, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
After seeing Brown's ZIPS and reading scouting reports
I think he’s borderline untouchable. Dude looks like a major contributor.
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 7, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
Impossible to say something like that after one A-ball season.
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From a strawhat perspective
I think he’s got to be pretty close to untouchable to the org, seeing as how they preferred to give up Wheeler instead of him.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
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Well sure
But when you’re talking about acquiring an MVP-caliber shortstop with three years of relatively cheap control on his contract, your untouchables become touchable fast.
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teehee
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 7, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
That’s true, although given RDF I’d guess that $47MM isn’t what Sabes thinks of as “relatively cheap.”
I guess it’s worth mentioning that Sabean’s typically held player’s with “makeup issues” in disdain.
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MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
Dude, hold on. Miami is desperate to unload this guy if they are trading him.
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No they aren't
They can keep him.
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Throw in Burriss with whoever else.
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Wheeler, Belt, & Panik probably would have done it.
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 7, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
HERE IT IS:
Belt, Panik, Nate, Hembree
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by Montreal Giants Fan on Dec 7, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
Why would the Marlins want Nate
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Why would they want Belt?
He’d be replacing either Gaby Sanchez or Logan Morrison.
Hanley is owed about 48 mil for the next 3 years
Considering the salary relief, we could probably get Belt for him + maybe some PTBNL BS.
It would be like the Marlins trading Hanley for Belt and first 3 years of Buerhle
The Marlins aren’t looking for salary relief at the moment, methinks.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Yea no
But he is being paid 48 million dollars!
We could take 48 million and get 3 years of Rollins. Rollins + Belt > Hanley
The price of what he is owed affects his trade value. Zito might be tradible if he made 2 million a year.
This, thank you. Everyone went crazy all of a sudden. Hanley’s deal is cheaper than market, but not by all that much. If he plays like a $25m/year guy over the next 3 years, you’re only looking at $27m in excess value.
That’s a fair amount of excess value.
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Fair amount, sure. But how much is Belt worth? Or Brown or Panik? People seem to packing the whole farm to get him.
He wouldn’t bid $5 for a SS from Japan, you think he’s going to spend money on a bad soldier?
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 7, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
So before I go back to work, one last thing:
Brian Sabean couldn’t even be bothered to remember Hiroyuki Nakajima’s name. He posted for $2 million, will probably get a contract with an AAV of 3-4 million, and provides a right-handed bat at SS with some power potential and a skill-set that translates better to MLB than the slap hitting of Nishioka.
And Brian Sabean couldn’t even be bothered to remembered his name.
Fucking inexcusable.
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 7, 2011 1:14 PM PST reply actions
He posted for $2 million, will probably get a contract with an AAV of 3-4 million
The Giants couldn’t have done it. That’s Affeldt money.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
Over/under on OBP and BA for the SS position this year
The line for BA is .225
The line for .OBP is .290
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Over – Brian Sabean
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With a Crawford.Burriss platoon?
Under.
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Way under.
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I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
Not specifically but that's looking likely
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I’d move those numbers to .215 and .270.
by free f.p. #14 on Dec 7, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
Under and over.
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That’d be what, a 7-8 BB%? I can see him doing that.
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@Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Marlins have big offers out to C.J. Wilson (6 years) and Mark Buehrle (perhaps as many as 4), and will sign whoever says yes first.
The Marlins are just trolling everyone at this point.
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I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
If we lowball 10 players, and they each have a 10% chance of accepting,
Then we’ll get one Free Agent uber-cheap, right?
I think one thing I’ll miss the most about Torres is his hands when he ran.
They were all WOOSH.
Ask me about my blog.
It made him go faster! It kind of reminded me of how kids with new shoes think they run faster and jump higher – Torres looked like the believed in that kind of stuff.
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actually, good running form does make you go faster. His hands were a little exaggerated, but his mechanics were really good.
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Your mom's a girl
I say that as a former track guy…track strawhats
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Your mom's a girl
No doubt. I was just relaying what it reminded me of.
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Marlins upset with Hanley, because given his subpar year in ’11, they were greatly surprised he wants more money to change positions.
There’s a prostitute joke in there somewhere.
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by can of corn on Dec 7, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Obviously he should’ve negotiated first.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
WoW Grant,
WoW Grant, are you doing the deleting, talk about sensative!
http://giantsbaseballblog.blogspot.com/
http://giantsbaseballblog.blogspot.com/
Ban this fool
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Why
You that bored
This is a Giants site right?
http://giantsbaseballblog.blogspot.com/
Advertise somewhere else
I already have to deal with ticket squid and Joe Mauer staring at me
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You have a link in your signature. There’s no reason to include one in the body of every comment. That’s called spam.
And I hope you’ll reconsider the warning you received about spamming the site.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Warning?
Everyone has links in their sig, get over it. I post my site in every comment i make everywhere. Your small if you get offended by it!
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BAN HAMMER PLEASE
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Haha
DFA this Rowand Guy please!
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I love the YOU’RE ALL FUCKING ASSHOLES AND STUPID TO BOOT AND HEY WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ MY OPINIONS ON BASEBALL, PLEASE?
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by troymccluresf on Dec 7, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
The you’re/your thing should be a bannable offense by itself.
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
Whose small?
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
If you’ll kindly read my comment, nobody cares about the link in your signature. It’s the ones you’ve been plastering in the comment bodies.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
WHo the fuck cares?
I’ll stop OK, didn’t know it was offensive….
You guys have some issues though if that’s getting to you, seriously.
http://giantsbaseballblog.blogspot.com/
Also
I post here 2-3 times a month, so I don’t troll here waiting to jump on people like a lot of posters here seem to do.
http://giantsbaseballblog.blogspot.com/
You don't seem to know what being a troll means
You should research and write a blogpost about it.
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And then come and link to it here so we can all go read it.
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I’m sorry if this has hit a nerve for you. Please understand that we regularly have to manage bulk spammers who have no interest in the content of this site, and the full link in the comment body is pretty much the unifying marker for those individuals. The link in your signature is fine. If you’d like, go ahead and make it an active link. But keeping it out of your comment bodies will help to differentiate your comments long-term from those of the many lousy spammers we deal with the rest of the time.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
Wow. Maybe you should go sit over on that chair and cool down for a few. You’re getting mighty worked up that we won’t all go read your crappy blog.
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HAHA
I love it, keep giving me pub here:
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You are all class
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Your mom's a girl
He’s short a ‘c’ and a ‘l’, but yes…all class.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
Oooh orange background with black text.
My eyes are still burning. Love the pixelz on the logo too.
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I checked out the blog, guys! It's good stuff!!!11~!
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Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
You know what?
mccoveychronicles.com
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/banned
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In this guy’s defense, his signature isn’t as bad as my old one from 3-4 years ago. Yikes.
Ask me about my blog.
How’s your blog doing?
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I AM UNRATED
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
NC-17 is a rating, JD
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Making me
25K a year, thats how!
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Why that's a bit better than minimum wage!
Congrats!
(And I don’t believe that figure for a second)
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25 kilocents
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25 Naira
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READ MY CRAPPY BLOG!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 7, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
I didn’t realize Grant was a WoW player. What a nerd.
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RELAX
DON’T DO IT
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
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Pro tip: When you're warned and told of the rules at a well-established community...
…don’t tell people to “Get over it”
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by Goofus on Dec 7, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL competing reporters
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
#Marlins prez Samson: Hanley did not ask for contract to be restructured. Hanley not getting traded. Hanley critical part of team. #MLB
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LOL WINTER MEETINGS
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by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Source: Hanley Ramirez’s rep asked the Marlins to make him a vampire. Will only play night games at third unless traded to Seattle .
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 7, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Wow
Talk Giants Baseball guys, not about Sigs, this site has always been a bit of a parody, but very entertaining I must say!
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I'm eating brisket tonight.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 7, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
Luckyyyyy
I had some at Famous Dave’s not too long ago. It was really good.
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My first attempt at stew turned out pretty good.
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Oh hey, yeah, we never heard the results. Did the kids like it?
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by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
No way – they won’t get near red meat. It was for me and the fella.
Meat was tender and tasty, the veggies just right. I had to add a bit of extra flour to thicken the sauce, but it tasted just right. I finished off a bowl by sopping up some sauce with some nice thick sourdough.
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Nice!
Those slow cookers are key for easy meals.
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I really need one of those.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 7, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
I finally bought one. I’ve been waiting years to do it.
Next up – beef tangine.
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You may also eat brisket tonight
http://sodacraftsf.com/post/13429353345/brisketfest?28f49780
Crap, is this spam now?
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by troymccluresf on Dec 7, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
Sounds amazing.
It would be a lowwwwng drive for me though.
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That’s a really tough one.
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 7, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
hey Treacle
cram it.
Sincerely
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Your mom's a girl
I'm trying to
But you keep linking to your shitty blog that I’m never going to read
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Type so he can understand
you keep linking to you’re shitty blog
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 7, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
Thank you for the guidance on what to talk about. I will consider it carefully. Do you have somewhere I could read more about your thoughts and feelings?
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
Can I just say, in my defense, that it’s been a while since I’ve linked to an old Today tape?
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You rarely post the URLs.
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I know it wasn’t possible, but I kind of like the Bedard deal for Pittsburgh. I wish the Giants could have picked him up. Would have been good Vogelsong insurance.
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Sabean is holding out for Daniel Cabrera.
Seriously, though, Bedard would be fun to have rehabbing with the Giants. I’d enjoy thinking about him coming back from an injury in time to help bolster the rotation.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Dec 7, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
Bedard to risky
Probably only good for 20 starts or so at this point in his career!
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Trecole696 to monopoly.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
No. Bedard not to risky. Bedard to Pittsburgh
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OK, Giants brass
I’m putting my “the SS shouldn’t have to hit” hat so I can enjoy Crawford’s play next year. Everyone else has to produce, tho, and you have to play Belt or no deal.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
From a fan’s perspective, I think that what Crawford brings is that he’s an interesting player. He’s not an inspiring one, or one to lay a ton of hope on. But when I’m watching a game, and Crawford is on my TV, I have something to be interested in. Which is a pretty refreshing difference between him and somebody like Tejada.
So if we can’t improve over Crawford, I’m perfectly happy to watch him for a while.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
I can’t wait till he wears a jersey reading “Boo” on the back.
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There was a story about this on the Freakonimics podcast last week.
Had a brief interview with him too.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
Rich Harden
Speaking of fifth starter candidates. There isn’t much of a market for him, and I’d take him on the right 1 year deal.
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I'll take the over but with the Giants missing the playoffs.
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I think the pitching still has enough to get them to .500
I think they still miss the playoffs though.
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Gah
You’re putting me in a tough spot because I think they’ll win 87 or so. I don’t want to go much lower than that, if only because our pitching is still good and our division is still bad.
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I’m assuming that the pitching will be worse than last year, because last year’s staff was so good. Obviously there’ll be some regression offensively, but given that this offense is worse than last year’s I’m not sure it’ll be enough.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
There’s a substantial black hole if anyone on the pitching staff gets injured.
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I'm not getting this
“but given that this offense is worse than last year’s”
Last year’s offense gave:
- 419 PAs to Eli/Stewart (62/68 OPS+)
- 476 PAs to Tejada/Cabrera ((68/44 OPS+)
- 351 PAs to Rowand (74 OPS+)
- 230 PAs to Keppinger (74 OPS+)
- 152 PAs to Burriss (34 OPS+)
That right there represents 25% of the of the 2011 PAs. A full quarter of their season’s PAs were wasted on guys who shouldn’t be in the lineup. Yes, a full-time Crawford is probably going to be pretty horrid at the plate and probably just replace Cabrera/Tejada’s crap, but his defensive upgrade makes the team better.
If you replace the rest of those PAs above with PAs from Posey, Sanchez and Melky/Pagan, you’re upgrading things. If Huff plays to his ZipS projections, he’s an improvement over his 2010 self. The only real “loss” from the 2010 team will have been Beltran, but he was only here for 179 PA’s.
I think offense will still be an issue for the Giants, but what are you looking at that tells you this offense will be worse than last years and how is it a “given”?
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by Goofus on Dec 7, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Looks like ZiPS thinks we’ll have 4 starters above average with a 127, 116, 106, 103, then a couple more in the 90s. It doesn’t like Freddy at all (83, same as Fontenot’s which is convenient because once his shoulder explodes again we’ll hardly notice he’s gone) and Crawford (70) and Burriss (68) look pretty spectacularly awful. But you’re right it looks like there’s a lot of room for improvements around the diamond.
The keys are obviously going to be Posey and Belt. Those two can probably make or break the season offensively. Three other pretty big ? will be Vogelsong, 5th starter, and Wilson. When’s baseball start again? I want games.
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Pagan (97) and Nate (99) project above average too
League average OPS+ is 94-95
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Seems like one of these years the Dodgers should win the division, just on the strength of Kemp and Kershaw alone. Though how they’re going to do that with the entire rest of the roster made up of MI I’m not sure.
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MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
With two Gold Glove outfielders, they can afford to play five infielders and leave the rest to their fantastic outfield defense.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
I like Panda and Tim/Matt/MadBum
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I miss my son already.
Why is everyone with a personality being chased out of town?
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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I’d say the Giants are planning on replacing all their players with robots, but GiantPain would get all excited.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Dec 7, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
@johnfayman John Fay
#Reds plan to talk to Cody Ross’ agent. “He’s an interesting name,” Jocketty said. It would be short-term deal
@johnfayman John Fay
#Reds plan to talk to Cody Ross’ agent. "He’s an interesting name," Jocketty said. "You probably meet more people named Ross than you do named Cody, but Ross is his last name.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 7, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
MLB.com’s Mark Sheldon
There has been thought given to adding free agent OF Cody Ross, who had a very brief stint with the Reds in 2006.
"We kicked it around," Jocketty said. "I saw his agent yesterday in the lobby. It’s an interesting name. He said he’d be interested in coming back, probably on a short term thing. I told him we’d discuss it and we did. But we have some other things to do first before we start looking at extra guys."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 7, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
Troy Renck of the Denver Post:
The Rockies like Cody Ross, but not on a three-year deal. He’s viewed more as a complementary player than an everyday guy.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 7, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
I love all these comments from Marlins mgmt about how Ramirez is staying
Because otherwise they know that his trade value is kinda effed. D’oh!
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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Beurhle to the Marlins for 4/58
3ish win pitcher getting 15 million a year. FANGRAPHS WINS AGAIN.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
This offseason is so weird.
Next year’s firesale is going to be epic.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Dec 7, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
FUCKING MARLINS
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Buerhle to #Marlins: 4 yrs, $58M. #MLB
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Does Sabean and the ownership group know how fucked up it’s going to be if Beltran signs at an affordable price with another NL west team?
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by rxmeister on Dec 7, 2011 1:56 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Nope.
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LOL thinking that Sabean and the ownership group actually "know" things
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Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
This is starting to keep me up at night
Now that Boston has (supposedly) passed on Carlos . . .why the hell aren’t we in on him? So far this off-season is mostly about moving pieces around but not actually improving.
Don't believe everything you think.
BTW
Buerhle will pitch a no hitter against us next year.
He is exactly the type of pitcher we can’t handle.
/cue we can’t handle any pitcher jokes
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Last time I checked
Yes, he is capable of throwing a baseball from the mound all the way to home plate. We’re doomed.
/swings at slider low and away
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 7, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
The Miami Marlins are the new Philadelphia Eagles.
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Reyes agent Peter Greenberg on Giants’ interest: “There were some early discussions…They loved the player but just didn’t have the money.”
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
How could we compete with the financial juggernaut that is the Miami Marlins
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Haha
/raises ticket prices
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 7, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, where could they have found $10 million?
/slowly turns head to glare at Affeldt and Lopez.
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 7, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
If you’re reading this and you don’t have a panda and a giraffe hat in your closet, it’s your fault.
Boo
by LosGigantesTodoElTiempo on Dec 7, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
JimBowdenESPNxm: JIm Duquette of SiriusXM is reporting that JImmy Rollins has agreed to terms with the Phillies [via Twitter]
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I just get the sinking feeling they’re going to bring back Renteria and talk about how he’s a proven World Series winner…TWICE!
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 7, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
Commissioner Bud Selig issued a memo to all baseball teams stating that all operating funds must be transferred to the teams of the National League East. Effective immediately.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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I rant on Twitter
I'm more ok with this than the alternative
If Rollins actually left Philly for another team that’s not the giants I’d be more upset.
Then again, doesn’t seem like they really tried to get him or anyone else to replace Crawford.
The first six innings are overrated.
Shit, meet fan.
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Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Attention will soon be brought to Fielder, and subsequently to Beltran, who will sign with Miami for 3/$20. Then more Bork about how that was too much money for the Giants.
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 7, 2011 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
I got $20 bucks to lend,
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
BAHAHAHAHAHA
Jon_Heyman Jon Heyman
Guess what? I’m told marlins still trying for wilson even after landing buehrle (and reyes and bell). Talking to prince too
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
whatever
Their pitching still leaves much to be desired. Johnson is the pitching version of Freddy Sanchez, and Buerhle is alright.
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 7, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
Watch them all get traded next season.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 7, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
HOLD ON A SECOND
jaysonst: Sources denying reports of any #Phillies agreement with Jimmy Rollins [via Twitter]
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
C-C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
It's just so frustrating to see all this action going on and to then watch the Giants trying to sell fake watches outside the Winter Meetings.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Maybe Sabean was the one who fell into the pool?
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Well put.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 7, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
Renteria agent spoke to Giants
I just checked his splits, his career he destroyed LHP.
For the right price… you all think Rent>Burriss right?
throw them both in a blender and make a protein shake
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Dec 7, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
[takes deep breath]
YOU CANNOT TRUST BRUCE BOCHY TO NOT PLAY RENTERIA EVERY DAY
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Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
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by scout6 on Dec 7, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Yeah, but now Sabean and the ownership have guaranteed he'd be the best option on the roster
progress!
The first six innings are overrated.
Burris v. Renteria — which is worse?
OH MY GOD, YOU GUYS. WHAT THE HELL?
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I would actually prefer renteria to Burriss
If not for this
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Are you trying to say he will be inserted to 1B rotation and block Belt?
Who here wants more Crawford at bats? They both could be serviceable… I am afraid of Burriss.
uh.....
Didn’t Renteria win a little something called the World Series MVP?
Oh wait, that’s right, he has two of them….
Do you remember a certain 3-run homer he hit to clinch the series for us?
And yet, Renteria get’s zero respect
If you’re going to slobber all over Torres, you better show a future hall-of-famer like Renteria some respect.
Goddamn bunch of homers on his site
Edgar Renteria has had a 79 OPS+ since 2008, and has averaged 300 plate appearances in the last two years while playing fogey defense at SS. He gets all my respect and all my props and all my love for that World Series win, but he doesn’t get my roster spot.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
Like Simpson?
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2011 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
Didn’t Renteria win a little something called the World Series MVP?
Oh wait, that’s right, he has two of them….
Livan Hernandez won the 1997 World Series MVP for the Florida Marlins.
Show some respect.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 8, 2011 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
He will certainly make the ballot and will likely get at least a vote or two.
He will not be enshrined, but it’s not LOL worthy – he is in the conversation.
Again: he’s not getting in.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 8, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
He was very good. As a younger man.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 8, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
He'll be somewhere around the 50th best SS of all time.
There are about 20 SS in the HOF now, and two joining in the next 10 years (Jeter and ARod (maybe)). If Barry Larkin isn’t getting into the Hall, and its looking unlikely, and Renteria isn’t even close to that good, I think it’s absurd (hence LOL) to assert he’s a future Hall of Famer.
Agreed with everything except the Larkin comment. I’d think Barry’s getting in this year.
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Barry should get in this year.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 9, 2011 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
Fontenot. Fontenot. Fontenot.
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 7, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
Actually I’m perfectly fine with Crawford.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 7, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
You might change your tune when he’s one of 5 regulars batting under .230
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Dec 7, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
If he’s one of 5, it doesn’t make any difference whether or not he’s in there.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 7, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
I’m saying if there’s 5 other guys hitting below .230, then having Fontenot hitting .250 instead isn’t going to make any significant difference.
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 7, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
Well honestly, .230 might be optimistic if you consider how Crawford hit last year.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Dec 7, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
Yes I am
But not enough to get all excited over.
Renteria is not good, and any small difference he would make against LHP would be negated by his lack of defense compared to Crawford. Plus, you know in your heart Bochy would play him every day if he was on the roster.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 7, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
I'd say the difference is bigger than that
But even if it isn’t, improvement is improvement. Just because everyone else sucks doesn’t change that Fontenot would be better than Crawford.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Who are the other four?
I’m assuming you don’t mean pitchers
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I would love it if anyone from the team was acting like he was an option. He’s certainly better than Crawford and Burriss, and he’s cheap.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
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by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
Burr, is cold in here.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
There must be some Torros in the atmosphere.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
I actually saw that movie in the theaters.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Two things:
First, I totally spelled Toros wrong. How embarrassing.
Second, I used to have that movie on VHS and watch it regularly. Even more embarrassing.
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
Toros?
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
Just sign Furcal.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Just sign Beltran.
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 7, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
darrenrovell darren rovell
Trying to confirm RT @LobShots BREAKING: The Marlins just signed the Yankees.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I unfollowed Rovell the other day
He was driving me crazy
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Shit. It is snowing.
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An ill-fated combination.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
George Lucas knitting in a Starbucks? George Lucas knitting in a Starbucks.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
MEESA MAKIN A SCARF!
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Looks like no Episodes 7-9, I guess.
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 7, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
He’s actually working on the script. With the latest in knit-script technology, he can ensure the highest number of holes per square inch.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
Both random and awesome.
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
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by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
My friend posted this on FB, and I had to share it with the world.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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It looks like crocheting to me.
And both crocheting and knitting are extremely relaxing, if you’re doing something simple.
by mrs. owlcroft on Dec 7, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
This is definitely true.
I knitted an afghan one summer at Candlestick
by mrs. owlcroft on Dec 7, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
Holy shit Simmons thinks we're getting Chris Paul
My Final Prediction: Chris Paul to Golden State for Curry, Udoh and Thompson, followed by Golden State using its amnesty on Biedrins and signing Chandler. Welcome to relevancy, Warriors fans. You deserve it.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7327616/the-fourth-day-nba-christmas
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dude that's so much to give up
for a guy on a one year deal. If Paul won’t extend his contract, screw that.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Dec 7, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
I dont think that deal happens unless CP3 commits to long term deal with Warriors
Otherwise yeah, no way in hell do I give up our last 3 1st round picks.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Dec 7, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
Then he posits we'd flip monta for rudy gay or iguodala
Paul, Gay, Lee, Chandler
THATS A REAL TEAM
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I would be sad to see Ellis go, because he’s such a Warriors sort of player, in the way that Jason Richardson was before him. It feels right and proper to have him on this team playing with the Adonal Foyles of the world.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
You don't go very far in the playoffs when he's your best player
I do like him though
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Simmons is just grasping at straws in coming up with any possible situation he doesn’t go to the Lakers.
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 7, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
I’m a Kings fan, but I would probably become a Warriors fan if they got Chris Paul. Especially if they got Paul and Chandler.
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by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
Dear God, the Marlins are loaded
C: Buck
1B: Sanchez
2B:
3B: Ramirez
SS: Reyes
LF: Morrison
CF:
RF: Stanton
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Ramirez at third is probably a total wild card.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Dec 7, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
I figure it’s just a Michael Young situation. If need be, they can find something good for him.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
He’s such a tempestuous player, I think he needs a productive year without all that side stuff to remind teams of how dynamic he is.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Dec 7, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
Perhaps
Of course, if he were to absolutely refuse to play third, the Marlins wouldn’t have that luxury.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
It's an interesting scenario
Because I think Ramirez really wore out his welcome with all his antics last year. And then they sign another SS to a 6 year deal with the expectation that one of the best SS’s in the game move over to 3B. It’s a weird way to go about your business.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Dec 7, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
You can’t actually refuse to play a position. Refusing to take the field at your assigned position is one of the very few things that can legitimately lead to a team not paying you. Soriano said he was going to refuse to play LF when the Nats got him and they just said too bad and wrote him in as LF which when it comes down to it is probably what the Marlins will do.
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Although only 3 of those players were above-average last year
And only two of those three were actually very good.
I count Morrison, Stanton, Reyes, and Sanchez as good last year. Hanley Ramirez will not stay that bad either.
I don’t think you count Morrison as particularly good. I’m not even sure that 1 WAR is above average is it? It’s just above replacement. 3 WAR for a 1B isn’t great either.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
Ok, but is 7 of 16 particularly good, as opposed to above average? And yes, I understand the potential goodness of both Gaby and Morrison, but you were specifically referring to their production last year. Last year, Morrison was a 1 WAR player.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
Reyes and Stanton were awesome. I love Mike Stanton. I want to tattoo his face on my face.
Morrison (while it is mostly due to his horrific defense) was only worth 1.0 WAR last season, and barely hit at all after May.
Sanchez was decent, but only a bit above average (ranked 12th among qualifying 1B). Like Morrison, he only hit well the first two months.
In any case, saying the Marlins are stacked is debateable.
Shift+A
750+ comments in the 2.5 hrs it took to drive back to SF. That plus the 1500 in the last fanshot, that’s a lot of well-deserved Torres love.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Finally a fellow Boarwalk Empire fan! I compared GP to Van Alden. Thoughts?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Van Alden is way too emo. GP can’t be bothered to hold his detractor’s heads under water, let alone shoot someone in the foot.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
That’s the hidden, darker side.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Not trying to say that.
Besides the more obvious uptight qualities are the ones I was referring to.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I think I know what you mean, but
I still see GP as more like Spock. He doesn’t really give a shit if you agree with him or not. This is why I enjoy disagreeing with him. Van Alden thinks people who disagree with him are going to rot in hell, and he’s happy to expedite the process.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Boss' wife?
GP FOR MAYOR
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
Baggs
As for how their current pieces fit … Bochy said today that he and the front office are unsure how they’ll use Angel Pagan
So in other words, whatever it took to get Torres off the roster, huh?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
WTF
What possible lineup for this team as currently constructed does not include Angel Pagan as center fielder?
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
The Nate love is starting to get weird
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I am wondering if they are trying to move Nate
and are talking him up.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
As a Nate fan, it pains me to say this, but I don’t think anyone would really want him.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
I did say "trying"
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I will play baseball with him and let him score.
by City Girl on Dec 7, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions 8 recs
He's probably on his honeymoon
or just back.
Patience!
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
MOVING ON UP
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
A PHENOMENAL read for Giants fans. RT @mccoveychron A Love Letter to Andres Torres sbn.to/suPtHd
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I’m guessing he hasn’t delved down into the comments.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 7, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
YOUR A SHILL BAGGERLEEEE!!!!!!!!
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
1940 Xmas evening with a full moon over town
Baggerlee met Billy DeLyon
and he blew that poor boy down
Do you know what he shot him for?
What do you make of that?
‘Cause Billy DeLyon threw lucky dice,
won Baggelee’s Stetson hat
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Gin fizz, love
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
LOVE the Stack-O-Lee blues!
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
We should start a Twitter blitz campaign to get him on here.
by free f.p. #14 on Dec 7, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
mccoveychron McCovey Chronicles
Note: Man Falls Into Pool At Winter Meetings now has a .gif, courtesy of @LookoutLanding. mlb.sbnation.com/2011/12/7/2619…
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
:(
Harry Morgan passed away.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
.
“I had a Still in Guam in World War I; One night it blew up. That’s how I got my Purple Heart.”
—Harry Morgan as Sherman T. Potter
I’m thinking he would have fit right in here.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Damn, the Marlins are acquiring everybody
TrippingOlney Not Buster Olney
BREAKING: THE MARLINS HAVE SIGNED MY TWITTER FEED FOR 6 YEARS AND $136 MILLION
LOL
The plot thickens
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
And the twists and turns continue with Pujols talks: source says STL has nine-year offer on table, not 10.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Ken Rosenthal reminds me of that guy in Wire
from Season 5. The reporter from the Baltimore Sun that makes stuff up to create a story
He reminds me of that guy who interrupted a WS game in 2007 to report on the status of the talks between ARod and the Yankees.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
He reminds me of a smurf.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
IT GROWS
AmyGGiants Amy Gutierrez
RT @mccoveychron: A Love Letter to Andres Torres sbn.to/suPtHd
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Heard this : 88G is considering retweeting this story
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Don't let it die...
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
Reflect on that a little longer.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
Never saw him play,
but that’s precisely why I thought it was a question worth asking.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
Although they aren’t very Sabremetic, if haven’t read Roger Angels books from that era you should.
Ahh, the days of that green concrete called astroturf!
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
Wow, center field has been a black hole since Mays retired
Between him and Torres, the good players are Maddox, Gladden, Butler, Lewis, and…Grissom?
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Shinjo
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
touche
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
seriously though
that one play Shinjo made where he ran all the way to his right to catch a ball, make a 360 spin to nail a guy at third (or was it home?) was one of greatest plays I’ve ever seen.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Dec 7, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Shinjo had that rare combination of range, accuracy, and arm
Torres had supreme range, but had neither the accuracy nor the arm that Shinjo had.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
The one thing about Shinjo that stuck with me was how he would always throw the ball sidearm. I think he’s the reason I still do that.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Yeah he had that little whipping, side-arm motion. I remember him always turning around after the throw too.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Dec 7, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Here you go. Never Forget
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ebrtGQjB9PI#t=261s
One of the greatest play ever. I wish I have the Jon Miller version. He went all the way into Deep Right centerfield to make up for Benard’s mistake.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Lofton!
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Darren Lewis was a fabulous defensive centerfielder.
I wish I could have seen Andres in person, but I do believe he’s even better than Lewis, which is really saying something.
by mrs. owlcroft on Dec 7, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
He looks like he saw a zombie.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
That top pic is really amazing. Could make for a classic painting with the Giants caught in/with dramatic stances and facial expressions.
expressions
Rent: intense triumph.
Ross: even more so.
Freddy: giddy, slightly mischievous joy.
Torres: a kind of blankness that comes from shock, maybe.
Ruiz: sees someone wearing a funny hat.
jcrasnick Jerry Crasnick
Source says Pujols continues to negotiate with clubs other than #Cardinals. But Albert will not be going to Florida.
SamMillerOCR Sam Miller
Joe = very reliable RT @joeontheradio As we speak…Angels ARE in Pujols bidding
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
It’s all coming from FO people. It’s not all true, but it’s all sourced.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
So, basically, these writers are useful idiots?
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Dec 7, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
Definitely useful. Don’t know how idiotic. Certainly at least Gammons and Rosenthal and Heyman have made a pretty decent living for themselves hanging out around baseball activities, which isn’t the easiest thing in the world to do, and getting access to the sources they have in front offices is a big part of how they’ve been able to do that.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
From Razzball
Angel Pagan – Was traded to the Giants for Andres Torres (and Ramon Ramirez). This trade happens in your fantasy league when two owners grow bored and trade apples for apples. Neither of these apples are delicious.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
OT
Kate Bush special on http://www.kfjc.org/netcast/index.php till 5pm
NP: Her cover of PF’s Comfortably Numb
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Gonna register this and turn it into a weird fetish site
ENJOY YOUR BAN, SIR
The first six innings are overrated.
Grant has really hit the big time!
ashkonmusic Ashkon
@mccoveychron great great great article on Torres. Thank you.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
OK..
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
by slapsy on Dec 7, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That is a wild expansion of the definition of “musician”, IMO.
/get off my lawn.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Just shows you can't believe everything you see on the Internets
Excuse me if this is “breaking”, but,
McCarver wins Hall of Fame’s Frick Award
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
If I'd know Frick awards were for sale,
I’d have bought Kuiper one years ago.
by mrs. owlcroft on Dec 7, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
Lulz
mccoveychron McCovey Chronicles
Thinking if the Giants amnesty Zito and trade Huff for a draft pick, they could be a mystery team for Pujols.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Oh man, that’s some rosterbation I can get into…
Boo
by LosGigantesTodoElTiempo on Dec 7, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
Would that it were
Basketball teams still pay amnesty players it just that its off the salary cap books.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
This may already have been mentioned, but Chartball is offering a really cool Giants’ 2010 infographic poster: heah.
Celebrating 60 years of NBC News Today, January 14, 1952 - January 14, 2012
I wish my secret Santa read McC!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
I predict Pujols signs with the Angels
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
JeffFletcher1 Jeff Fletcher
Internships available with #sfgiants and #athletics magazines ow.ly/7Smef
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I’ve looked, there aren’t any.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Ugh. Sorry, dude.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Eh, I’m enjoying not having to roll into work early in the morning every day. I have a lot of other stuff I need to work on in the meantime anyway. Also the sweet sweet unemployment money.
Live Nude Food
Reminds me of the 24 hour, full-nudity, truck-stop we passed by in Ohio in the late 90’s.
We didn’t get out of the car but it smelled depressing driving by.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
I am not aware of such a location.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Somewhere between Columbus and Cleveland? It was off a smallish state highway.
I like naked girls, but naked girls serving me flapjacks?
I dunno.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
HOW DID THIS HAIR GET IN MY SYRUP???!?!?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
WHY IS IT SO CURLY???
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
Whatever happened to that rumored second deal involving the Giants?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Keppeneger traded to Satan for Sabean's lifetime control of the Giants.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Keppinger
doesn’t move very well
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
He moves like a luxury cruise ship
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
yes
a luxury liner, like the Titanic
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
Pre
no way Kepp can maneuver around an iceberg. Hell, Keppinger might be the iceberg.
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
That’s cold
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
Wait, Street was traded to the Padres?
When did that happen?
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
he was traded to the Padres for nothing
Here. Take him. Pay this man his money.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
As I said earlier on twitter
The NL east teams are arms racing with each other to try to beat the Phillies.
The Giants believe As-Is is good enough to beat the D-backs.
Once you get into the playoffs, it’s a fucking crapshoot of whose pitching is hotter.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
When it comes to shooting crap
I’ll bet on the Giants.
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
Occupy update
Many are packing up, there will be some resistance, but it looks like not much. Almost no one showed up to the injunction hearing this afternoon.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
So the Winter Meetings are essentially over?
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
#occupyNull
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
by bgunn on Dec 7, 2011 4:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe I am a bad person
but when I think of Jonathan Sanchez, the two immediate comps that comes to mind are Oliver Perez and Scott Kazmir.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
but i didn't use to do that
It used to be RANDY JOHNSON AND SANDY KOUFAX
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Ollie Perez made $35.7 million.
Scott Kazmir made $30.8 million.
I think young Jonathan would not consider you bad people for writing this history!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Mark Buehrle?
Marlins? Am I late?
My adopted son, Brandon Crawford. Dude hits grand slams and plays defense.
Like a Whiteside throw to 2B
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Like Aaron Rowand on a slider
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
You were quicker than a Zito FB to the plate...
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
Pagan's nickname
is wildhorse or equiv.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
Neil Young likes the Sharks.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
Well if he commits another 10 errors in 2012...
I’ll be the first to rename him “Trojan Horse”
No more UZR special olympics please.
We need to get those horse heads from Amazon.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
horse is now approved for human consumption!
timely hat
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Your mom's a girl
New strategy
By holding spending down this year, the Giants are in position to be buyers in the fire sale that will follow the Marlilns’ 2012 World Series title.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
by EliminateMe on Dec 7, 2011 4:21 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Or epic collapse
since a Miami team buying every high-ticket big shot they could get their hands on worked so well for the Heat…
NorCal passion trapped in SoCal pain...
I wanna rage.
At least we can all have a good laugh at the expense of the city of Manchester.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
BOOOOO
Go Blues. I’ll take a Premier League title and be plenty content.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Gunners coming in hot! Until van Persie gets hurt! Then we’re fucked!
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2011 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
I believe we play next Saturday
NASRI’S REVENGE
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
So we do.
Lucky for you Wenger decided to use our last trusted outside back in a game that did not matter whatsoever. Wouldn’t you know it, he got hurt.
So:
Sagna
Gibbs
Jenkinson
Santos
Now we have to use our best defender, Vermaelen, paired with someone like Djourou or Miquel.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
More Torres Love
http://manginphotography.net/2011/12/andres-torres-was-a-great-giant/
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
You can buy a piece of Torres
$29.00 4/8/11 12th Game used STL at SF Opening Day MLB FJ286566 Brian Tallet to Andres Torres. Foul ball to screen
$29.00 5/12/11 3rd ARI at SF MLB FJ286847 Daniel Hudson to Andres Torres. Fly to center drop by Gerardo Parra
$29.00 8/4/11 8th PHI at SF MLB FJ292901 Cliff Lee to Andres Torres. Foul to backstop.
$39.00 8/29/11 3rd CHI at SF MLB FJ705097 Randy Wells to Andres Torres. Double to left center.
Also:
$29.00 5/8/11 3rd COL AT SF MLB FJ286796 Jorge De La Rosa to Aaron Rowand. Pitch in dirt.
$29.00 5/26/11 7th FLA at SF MLB BB750276 Anibal Sanchez to Aaron Rowand. Groundout to SS to 1st.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
Yup.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
This is fun!
$29.00 6/8/11 7th WSH at SF MLB BB750385 Sean Burnett to Aubrey Huff. Groundout to first.
$29.00 8/25/11 2nd HOU at SF MLB FJ705035 Henry Sosa to Aubrey Huff. Pitch in the dirt-strikeout.
$29.00 9/14/11 1st SD at SF MLB FJ705363 Tim Lincecum to Alberto Gonzalez. Fielded by Lincecum throws to Huff, drops ball for error.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
: \
This is not the fun I was looking for.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
Everything comes down to this
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
Giants are maxed out on payroll, Sabean said. Have to choose between tendering Keppinger or Fontenot. It’s one or the other.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Red pill or blue pill?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
This is like saying
You have to choose between Beta and VCR
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Dec 7, 2011 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
like choosing
minidisc (outside of JP) vs DVD player
This is a nice twist on the OMG face.
/ right click save
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
BEST TRADE EVAR LAST YEAR
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
Sabean confirms Ross, Beltran won’t be re-signed. No offer made to either player. Talks never went past the general stage.
1 minute ago
LOL GIANTS
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2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
So all the $$$$ we spent on World Series bling went where exactly?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
My guess is that the Beltran just doesn’t want to re-sign with the Giants because they haven’t made a single offensive improvement. He’s no fool, but he never got to the team at full strength with Sanchez and Posey, so F him.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Dec 7, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
at leas they could've made an offer and told the fans they tried
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
Sabean confirms Ross, Beltran won’t be re-signed. No offer made to either player. Talks never went past the general stage.
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I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
Looks like there will be no selfishness next year
But damn, Beltran could hit! Apparently that kind of player isn’t allowed on the Giants.
seriously though...
How do you give up a top pitching prospect for 2 months rent of a player? Before, I thought the trade was good…but that was thinking that they would actually attempt to re-sign Beltran and had a plan to do so after the season. Now it looks like they knew all along that they’d only get this season.
It’s cute that you think there was a time before the RDF.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2011 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
This is for all the people who thought he was going to try to sign Beltran
You should have known better.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Brian Sabean hasn't made a single move this winter that gave the team a better chance to win
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
They DFA'd Darren Ford.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
yeah, at best it's basically been lateral moves
that could admittedly be better due to reasons of age. but still…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
this sucks
The last two months of Giants baseball in 2011 was almost unwatchable. It will just be more of the same, except with a hobbling Posey.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Dec 7, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
I was so frustrated I boycotted MCC for a couple months
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Dec 7, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
Look on the bright side
Maybe the Mayans were right and the world will end in 2012…. during baseball season.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
With any luck
The apocalypse will begin right at Sabean’s feet.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Dec 7, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not gonna lie. I completely checked out.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Dec 7, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
No seriously, SF was a baseball town for about 12 months. It’s the Niners again now.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Dec 7, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
Sadly, this.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
DONT WORRY GUYS.. THE PLAN IS HOPE
Hope that Posey is all better
Hope that our pitching is still historically good.
Hope that Aubrey Huff bounces back.
Hope that Melky is as good as he was last year
Hope that Belt breaks out
Hope that Sanchez, or anyone else. doesn’t get hurt.
Hope that Crawford/Burriss learn how to hit.
NOTHING CAN GO WRONG. THE PLAYOFFS ARE CERTAIN.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
LOL at Belt breaking out!
He kind of needs to get ABs in order to do that.
I guess I'm already rationalizing
but this team should be much more interesting than Randy Winn era teams right?
WWRWD?
Giants Baseball: It's better than the Rowand/Molina/Winn Era
Catch the fever!
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Worked for Obama
DONT WORRY GUYS.. THE PLAN IS HOPE
Hope that Posey is all better (he will be)
Hope that our pitching is still historically good. (3/5ths will be)
Hope that Aubrey Huff bounces back. (he won’t)
Hope that Melky is as good as he was last year (possible, not likely)
Hope that Belt breaks out (can’t if he doesn’t play, and there is no room)
Hope that Sanchez, or anyone else. doesn’t get hurt. (he will)
Hope that Crawford/Burriss learn how to hit. (won’t happen, Burriss knows how – can’t)
NOTHING CAN GO WRONG. THE PLAYOFFS ARE CERTAIN. (this org doesn’t care about the Playoffs)
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
It seems like a stretch to assert that Cain, Lincecum and Bumgarner will all be as productive as last year.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
That’s what people said after 2009 and then 2010 happened. Granted Lincy struggled a little, but these guys ARE historic.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
Oh yeah, and then 2011 happened. No reason to believe they won’t stay within the margins above or below their past performance, which means ALMOST historic, or better.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
We don’t know that they’ll all stay healthy, which is always a concern for pitchers. If someone gets injured, it’s all over.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
We don’t know…but does that mean it’s “a stretch” to believe 3 historically good, historically healthy pitchers won’t continue on that path?
I have career numbers that lead to my assertion…you have “not all pitchers stay healthy.”
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
And how did you know I didn’t mean Zito, Vogelsong, and Surkamp…
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
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Job 1:14-15
I know it's somewhere upthread, but I am just damned happy that he got a WS ring.
by Bar None on Dec 7, 2011 5:16 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
his first homerun trot was my favorite of all time
He sprinted like they were going to take the bases away from him.
Trot like a champion
OSH Baseball Tip: Your hair? It's dumb.
So how bout those niners everyone?
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
He has a plan?
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
The Giants had pre-tender negotiations with Andres Torres that “weren’t leading anywhere,” Sabean said. “And we got Pagan for a reason.”
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Oh man this is my favorite tweet of the day
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The Giants are really hoping Emmanuel Burriss will live up to potential this year as well. Sabean saw him recently, says he’s in great shape
BEST SHAPE OF HIS LIFE
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he has no potential
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Fixed
This Sabean fellow iskind ofstupid
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
Alt Alt fixed
This Sabean fellow is
a special kind of stupidan arrogant prick who has his head up his ass
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
...yep
RayWoodson680 Ray Woodson
Maxed out ? So, it’s a great idea to alienate fan base, right ?
2 minutes ago
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
I'll still always root for Matt even when he is in pinstripes or with BOS
RayWoodson680 Ray Woodson
Zito/Ro budget factors + Cain/Lincecum. Won’t need to worry bout Cain w/out better lineup.
/sigh
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
Ugh block quote fail \
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
Ugh block quote fail \
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
And calling it now. Matt Cain, IF he ever leaves SF as a FA, will sign with the Rangers.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
will make it easier to root for him if he's not a Yankee
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
This is really cool
http://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2011/12/05/document-the-symbolism-survey/
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
I would LOL if it weren't so depressing
RayWoodson680 Ray Woodson
Giants 2012 lineup: 1. If 2. Maybe 3. Hope So 4. KnockWood 5. Pretty Please 6. Sugar On Top 7. Good Luck 8. Rosary Beads 9. Ouija Board
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I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
by Falconer88 on Dec 7, 2011 6:13 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
At what point is the Giants FO going to tell him to knock it off?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
probably by tonight
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
most folks are here now:
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2011/12/7/2619384/futility-thy-name-is-utility#comments
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I’m late, but I want to thank you, Grant, for writing such a meaningful post worthy of what Andres Torres gave to us as fans.
Not only was Torres humble, kind, generous, and charismatic, he was inspiring. He made me believe that I—and all of us—could follow dreams after all. Here was a guy who didn’t make it until the tail end of his prime and he won a World Series in the process. Fortunately in the real world, my prime lasts a bit longer than the 27-32 window in MLB, so I feel a little less inadequate for starting college late and still building my career.
Thank you, Andres, for being a great Giant.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 8, 2011 6:57 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
I <3 Andres Torres 4ever
Thanks Grant for such a touching and spot-on love letter.
Suarez, el Pistoliero. He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the Rectification of the Vuldronaii, el Pistoliero came as a large moving Torb! Then, during the Third Reconciliation of the Last of the Meketrex Supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Sloar! Many Shubs and Zulls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day, I can tell you!
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 8, 2011 3:24 PM PST reply actions
Correction
A lot of players get the kindest/gentlest treatment, Manchurian Candidate-style, but with Torres, I believe it.
Should read:
A lot of players get the kindest/gentlest treatment, Nuschlerian Candidate-style, but with Torres, I believe it.
"Friends, San Franciscans, Countrymen....Humm Baby."
by The Nuschlerian Candidate on Dec 8, 2011 9:54 PM PST reply actions
Andres....
I gave my friend (a Mets fan) the scouting report on you and told him to take great care of you. Enjoy the Big Apple. I hope you crush it there. I’ll never forget the man with the Big Bat.
/PTB looks up
Oh. Sorry, Pat. The other man with the Big Bat.
"Friends, San Franciscans, Countrymen....Humm Baby."
by The Nuschlerian Candidate on Dec 8, 2011 9:58 PM PST reply actions
A move about Andres Torres and ADHD: Yungo Gigante
Just saw this on SFGate.com. Hope someone sees this post and passes it on.
http://www.yungogigante.com/y/home.html
from
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/12/14/sports/s182009S00.DTL
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