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It was never about the money. Jose just wanted a front row seat for the Marlins' new home run light show.

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Winter meetings!

The most wonderful time of the year.

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 6:54 AM PST reply actions  

GP, I imagine this was addressed on the previous thread, but...

…would you have had the Giants give Reyes what the Marlins did?

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by Goofus on Dec 5, 2011 6:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, he would.

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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Dec 5, 2011 6:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I like how you ask him as if he were some authority on the matter.

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by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 6:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I am a noted authority on what I would or would not do.

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 6:58 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

But only with a commensurately large sample size.

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by TheLetter2 on Dec 5, 2011 7:12 AM PST up reply actions  

hi!

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 7:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm highly unpredictable in small amounts.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:13 AM PST up reply actions  

This has gotta be my favorite GP comment of all time.

Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster

by SituationalLefty on Dec 5, 2011 8:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

Woulda gone a little higher, too.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 6:59 AM PST up reply actions  

But you could get TWO Aaron Rowands for that price!

by Evan on Dec 5, 2011 7:04 AM PST up reply actions  

And field a competitive team given your level of spending!

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 7:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of which,

I saw Aaron Rowand jerseys for sale at Sports Authority this weekend for $100 a piece. Yeah, those are gonna sell.

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by Goofus on Dec 5, 2011 7:05 AM PST up reply actions  

lol

those weren’t gonna sell a week after they got him, let alone now.

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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Dec 5, 2011 7:06 AM PST up reply actions  

MAYBE THEY’LL SIGN A GOOD PLAYER THAT WEARS #33.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 7:07 AM PST up reply actions  

This

If they take Rowand off the back and discount them, I am willing to buy and hold.

by Myemail21479 on Dec 5, 2011 7:08 AM PST up reply actions  

If they are home jerseys you don’t even have to do that.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 7:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Still, the last person to wear that number will be Rowand

That can’t be undone… I would wait for someone else to be awarded the number.

by Myemail21479 on Dec 5, 2011 7:26 AM PST up reply actions  

There has to be a Joe or Biff Rowand out there somewhere the Giants could sign

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 5, 2011 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Not with average annual salary :(

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 5, 2011 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m agreeing with GP. That deal looks mighty reasonable to me.

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by Roger on Dec 5, 2011 7:43 AM PST up reply actions  

LOLGIANTS

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 6:55 AM PST reply actions  

/giants sign rollins to 6 year 107 million dollar deal

sabean points to mvp award

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man

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by operation carrot on Dec 5, 2011 6:57 AM PST reply actions  

One day, I want to mail Chase Utley a couple knockoff MVP trophys

To compensate for the TWO times that he had a teammate win the MVP in a year that he was better than that teammate.

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:01 AM PST up reply actions  

You’re 50% right.

Howard put up some insane numbers his MVP year.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2011 7:10 AM PST up reply actions  

They were within .1 in bWAR, and Utley had him by a full win in fWAR

Defense and position matter. Utley’s one of the great defensive 2Bs of our time, and Ryan Howard plays first base, and not even that well.

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t realize he was that good at defense. So Alomar-like?

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 7:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe even better

Every defensive metric has him providing at least a full win or more with his glove every year since 05, when he became a full timer.

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:23 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s if you buy into 1) buy into defensive stats and 2) agree with positional adjustments for WAR.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2011 7:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess

But it’s not like it’s just one metric that has him as a once-in-a-generation defender. Every single one I can find, including the useful “aggregate defensive metrics” on fangraphs which smushes all the different ones together, thinks that Utley is routinely a +10 defender, year after year, which is just bonkers.

So yeah, I guess if you think every single metric is wrong. But every metric publicly available has him as the best around.

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I see Utley play all season and think he is incredible but that 2007 season by Howard was huge offensively.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2011 7:23 AM PST up reply actions  

They are building a pretty decent team.

Hanley Ramirez
Jose Reyes
Logan Morrison
Mike Stanton
Gaby Sanchez
Chris Coghlan

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2011 6:58 AM PST reply actions  

Josh Johnson If He Can Stay Healthy

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by Kestrel76 on Dec 5, 2011 7:09 AM PST up reply actions  

PUJOLS IS COMING

PUJOLS IS COMING
PUJOLS IS COMING

by Myemail21479 on Dec 5, 2011 7:09 AM PST up reply actions  

and after that he might sign with the Marlins.

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by Kestrel76 on Dec 5, 2011 7:10 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Bienvenidos a Miami

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 7:12 AM PST up reply actions  

A towering shot.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2011 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Coghlan is kinda bad

But they have some good young players, and soon, Pujols!

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:10 AM PST up reply actions  

But as their 6th best hitter?

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2011 7:11 AM PST up reply actions  

And one of their worst defenders!

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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:13 AM PST up reply actions  

With the offense they’re amassing I think they should bite the bullet and install Matt Dominguez as their 3B and figure out somewhere else to move Hanley. They’ve got enough bats to swallow Dominguez’ horrible offense and it would give them a fantastic defensive left side of the IF.

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MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!

by Roger on Dec 5, 2011 7:46 AM PST up reply actions  

HanRam to CF has been mentioned

Because, uh, why not?

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I was wondering what they’re going to do with Dominguez. Seems like he could be Pedro Feliz or better for a few years.

by Evan on Dec 5, 2011 7:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if Hanley to 2B and Bonifacio to CF would work? Not sure how Bonifacio is in CF though.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2011 7:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I WANT TO SEE A BADLY PHOTOSHOPPED JOSE REYES WITH THE NEW MARLINS HAT

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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Dec 5, 2011 7:05 AM PST reply actions  

It was my understanding that Goofus is always up.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2011 8:31 AM PST up reply actions  

If it’s for more than 4 hours, he should see a doctor.

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by can of corn on Dec 5, 2011 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Heyman says the Red Sox are really interested in bullpen help

I still say Wilson + Hembree for Lowrie is fair.

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:15 AM PST reply actions  

Grahamcracker bones

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by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 7:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Marshmallow ligaments!

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 7:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Sounds delicious.

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by can of corn on Dec 5, 2011 8:19 AM PST up reply actions  

A local was on the Philly sports talk radio saying that the Phils are interested in trading Victorino. When asked what they could get for him he said they could get relief pitching.

I saw Wilson+Hembree for Victorino.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2011 7:18 AM PST up reply actions  

That sounds crazy to me

He was their best player last year. No idea why they’d trade him.

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 8:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh pls pls pls pls I would deal with a rectum face if that’s all it took to acquire him.

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Why we toss in an Affeldt for Dom Brown component just to even things up.

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MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!

by Roger on Dec 5, 2011 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s because you don’t have 14,000 fake beards to move and commercials to film.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 5, 2011 7:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Would anyone notice if they just commanded Romo to grow his out?

I mean, Romo’s a first year arb guy right? Tell him you’ll give him an extra 100k if he never shaves, and then if anyone asks about Wilson, just be like, “who?”

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:24 AM PST up reply actions  

We’ve always been at war with Eastasia.

by Monkeyking42 on Dec 5, 2011 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Nope

We have always been allies with Eastasia

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

To get the deal done.

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Apparently we have the winning bid in on the Japanese SS, though I’m not sure if the consensus is he can actually play SS in the majors. Might be another 2B.

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by Roger on Dec 5, 2011 7:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I would kill to take a look at the Giants books. I wonder what kind of creative accounting they’ve been doing.

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by Kestrel76 on Dec 5, 2011 7:16 AM PST reply actions  

#SFGiants appear to have submitted posting bid on SS Hiroyuki Nakajima, sources tell @Ken_Rosenthal and me.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 5, 2011 7:20 AM PST reply actions  

But there has been no announcement from Nakajima’s club, so it’s not clear if bid was accepted.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 5, 2011 7:21 AM PST up reply actions  

OMFG PLEASE BE TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 7:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Is it on his twitter?

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by Kestrel76 on Dec 5, 2011 7:23 AM PST up reply actions  

YES

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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I am really excited right now.

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by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 7:25 AM PST up reply actions  

We we so excited

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 7:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I have no idea who this chap is.

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by TheLetter2 on Dec 5, 2011 7:26 AM PST up reply actions  

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=nakaji001hir

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by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 7:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Nakajima, 29, batted .297 with 16 home runs, 100 RBI and 21 stolen bases this past year in Japan.

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by Kestrel76 on Dec 5, 2011 7:25 AM PST up reply actions  

He is a RBI Creator

We need to protect him in the lineup, runs will not score without him

by Myemail21479 on Dec 5, 2011 7:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Quoting from rotoworld. No idea what his slashes are.

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by Kestrel76 on Dec 5, 2011 7:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Here's his stat page

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/profile.asp?P=/Hiroyuki-Nakajima.shtml

THINGS I LIKE:

Consistency. OPS of at least 800 since 2004, and an OPS of at least 890+ past three years.

What I consider to be transferable skills: High contact rate, very good strikeout-to-walk ratio, and plate discipline.

Supposedly very good on defense.

Also, jctgamer will be ecstatic if we get him.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm excited

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by Kestrel76 on Dec 5, 2011 7:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree

I’m assuming the power will go down but the OBP should be transferrable.

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by DFARowand on Dec 5, 2011 7:44 AM PST up reply actions  

The power always seems to be the thing that doesn't transfer as well

But an eye’s an eye. It’s also important to remember that Japan is currently in something of a modern deadball era, so anyone who’s hitting well is doing it against a backdrop of league offense over there being very depressed. I think there were something like 5 starting pitchers in Japan last year with ERAs under 2.

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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Jctgamer being ecstatic is something that you like?

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 7:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I threw in the "also" beforehand to denote that it wasn't part of the "things I like" list.

But I like when other people are happy!

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Just checking.

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 7:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Man, there are going to be so many creepy gifs of asian girls up in here if the Giants get him.

by chilibean_3 on Dec 5, 2011 8:36 AM PST up reply actions  

pew pew pew ewwww

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by SituationalLefty on Dec 5, 2011 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

REDEEM YOURSELF SAVVY SABES

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m telling you, even if we get Nakajima and he sucks, it’s hard not to give Sabean credit for just taking a fucking chance on something interesting.

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by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 7:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

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by Kestrel76 on Dec 5, 2011 7:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

Wilber Bucardo: Missing?

by gianator on Dec 5, 2011 7:33 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

That was my angle. Now everyone will think I stole it from you when I write today. It’s a good thing I stopped giving a shit in 2007.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 5, 2011 7:37 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Yes, the thousands of people who read my little comment on your little blog. Don’t flatter yourself.

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by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 7:40 AM PST up reply actions  

ALL HAIL

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 7:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Smug: If you lived here, you’d be home by now!

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 5, 2011 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

You should post this every time you steal someone’s angle.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 7:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Wait, you used to give a shit?

by Mrbasepaul on Dec 5, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Uh huh.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 7:46 AM PST up reply actions  

If we get him and he sucks then the Giants never take that chance again. Ever.

by chilibean_3 on Dec 5, 2011 8:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Wtf

More: #SFGiants have not confirmed their bid on Nakajima. This could impact their pursuit of Gonzalez and Hairston.

Per Morosi.

Wilber Bucardo: Missing?

by gianator on Dec 5, 2011 7:32 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Not hard to understand

I don’t think teams know whether they’ve won or not until the whole process is over. So it looks like the Giants submitted a bid, and while they were waiting, they talked with Hairston and Gonzalez.

Hopefully, if they’ve actually won the bid, they’ll go after Nakajima instead of either of those guys.

THAT SAID, Hairston might still be in play as a utility guy.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Signing both Nakajima and Hairston would be fine with me.

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by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 7:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Ok that makes sense.

Wilber Bucardo: Missing?

by gianator on Dec 5, 2011 7:37 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Hairston

I haven’t been following. Which Hairston are they pursuing? Not that I’ve ever bothered differentiating them. Can either of them even play SS?

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by kennv on Dec 5, 2011 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Jerry can.

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 8:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

I see it now on his B-R page. The defense section is pretty cluttered.

Also, please no Hairston. I like them as pantomime villains. Not as the good guys.

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by kennv on Dec 5, 2011 8:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Ass Snake.

RIP 2011 Giants Post Season

by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 8:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Jerry.

Wilber Bucardo: Missing?

by gianator on Dec 5, 2011 8:01 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

==

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 5, 2011 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

The shocker?

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Wrong configuration.

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 5, 2011 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Not the way I like it.

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Ouch...

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 5, 2011 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

German

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by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 8:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t even care if he doesn’t perform…I’d just be happy to see Sabes take a risk like this

by Hoey on Dec 5, 2011 7:33 AM PST up reply actions  

cool

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by jponry on Dec 5, 2011 7:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh no, Sabean is an idiot!!!!!

by Hyoton on Dec 5, 2011 7:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, say what you will about Sabean

But damn if he can’t keep a secret.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:46 AM PST up reply actions  

BUMGARNER!

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2011 7:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d think Bum would be able to keep a secret. He’s a good listener.

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by TheLetter2 on Dec 5, 2011 7:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Very stoic.

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 7:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Stoic Cat agrees

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by nvsfg on Dec 5, 2011 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

This is my favorite thing about Sabean

because it makes the McCoven so much more entertaining.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 5, 2011 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I can dig it

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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 5, 2011 7:48 AM PST up reply actions  

No fucking way

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Dec 5, 2011 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Jon Morosi says

#SFGiants appear to have submitted posting bid on SS Hiroyuki Nakajima, sources tell @Ken_Rosenthal and me.

Wilber Bucardo: Missing?

by gianator on Dec 5, 2011 7:27 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Inb4 BREAKING

Stupid iPhone, Grant scooped the scoop.

Wilber Bucardo: Missing?

by gianator on Dec 5, 2011 7:28 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

GRANT WRITE A POST ABOUT OUR NEW JAPANESE OVERLORDS

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:36 AM PST reply actions  

Reyes just went there because he looks good in yellow, blue & orange.

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by ResDog on Dec 5, 2011 7:37 AM PST reply actions  

But then again who doesn’t?

by Lunkus on Dec 5, 2011 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I know what I'm getting with Hairston and Gonzalez

At least Nakajima has a chance to be something better than meh to bleh

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by DFARowand on Dec 5, 2011 7:38 AM PST reply actions  

True in a way

but Japanese imports sometimes have difficulty with the culture shock.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 5, 2011 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Not a problem

we have Japantown

Choppin' broccoli

by SimpleJaquez on Dec 5, 2011 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

He could find the information easily

http://www.sfjapantown.org/About/history.cfm

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by nvsfg on Dec 5, 2011 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Thinking about money

The Twins signed Tsuyoshi Nishioka, who was 26 and coming off a career year, to a 3 year/9 million dollar deal after paying a 5 million dollar posting fee, which essentially made it a 3 year 14 million dollar deal for the Twins.

I think I’d be pretty OK with a similar deal, even though Nakajima is a couple years older.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:41 AM PST reply actions  

Nishoioka was a BUST

Considering pretty normal SS getting 5 mil a year, anything close to that would be a steal.

by Myemail21479 on Dec 5, 2011 7:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Nishioka got hurt

But you’re right, he sucked. I don’t think him sucking has a lot to do with how Nakajima might perform, though.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Similary stats

Nishioka – .305 /.380/.443

Nakajima – .313/.389/.491

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by Kestrel76 on Dec 5, 2011 7:47 AM PST up reply actions  

To Clarify

Those are career Japanese League slashes.

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by Kestrel76 on Dec 5, 2011 7:49 AM PST up reply actions  

No they aren't

You appear to have pulled Nishioka’s “minor league” stats from B-R, which do include his Japanese league numbers, but also include 29 PAs from the Twin’s minor league system this year.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Whoops

True.

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by Kestrel76 on Dec 5, 2011 7:50 AM PST up reply actions  

And the stats on B-R, for reasons beyond my understanding, only go back to 2007

Whereas Nakajim has played since 2004 with much more consistent success than Nishioka ever had.

For instance, Nishioka had OPS’s under 800 in 2007 and 2009. Nakajima hasn’t been under 800 since 2003.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:52 AM PST up reply actions  

They also don’t seem to have his 2011, which was not as strong as past years.

by Monkeyking42 on Dec 5, 2011 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Nor do I

I was just mentioning even at a good price, there is always a chance it is all for waste.

Average SS price for possible above average play is worth that kind of risk.

by Myemail21479 on Dec 5, 2011 7:49 AM PST up reply actions  

The question for me is whether Nakjima is a legitimate SS. With Nishioka even before he signed we were hearing a lot of chatter from scouts who thought he’d have to move to 2B in MLB.

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by Roger on Dec 5, 2011 7:49 AM PST up reply actions  

This is true

I haven’t heard a ton about his defense, but the little I recall reading has him as legit.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:52 AM PST up reply actions  

So he can fill in the next time some joint on Freddy becomes pudding again and Crawdad can play.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 5, 2011 8:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Who knew Sabean had guts?

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by rxmeister on Dec 5, 2011 7:45 AM PST reply actions  

/looks around at no one raising their hand

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by ResDog on Dec 5, 2011 7:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Dude is getting beefy in his older age.

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 7:48 AM PST up reply actions  

You don’t think signing a new center fielder every year takes guts? You don’t think going into a season with no backup to your 41-year-old shortstop takes guts? You didn’t think trading for Shea Hillenbrand and Orlando Cabrera in the heat of a pennant race takes guts?

by Evan on Dec 5, 2011 7:51 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Beltran took some guts.

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by ResDog on Dec 5, 2011 8:05 AM PST up reply actions  

WHAT A SELFISH ASS

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 8:06 AM PST up reply actions  

John Shea says

I’m told report that #SFGiants apparently submitted bit on SS Nakajima is not accurate.

:(

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by gianator on Dec 5, 2011 7:49 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

WHAT???

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by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 7:50 AM PST up reply actions  

They actually put in a bid for a yacht called the SS Nakajima.

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by TheLetter2 on Dec 5, 2011 7:51 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

With plans of renaming it RDF.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2011 7:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Or the Gimme Sex.

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by TheLetter2 on Dec 5, 2011 7:53 AM PST up reply actions  

…is it spring time yet?

by Hyoton on Dec 5, 2011 7:51 AM PST up reply actions  

For Hitler?

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 7:52 AM PST up reply actions  

And Germany!

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2011 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Well then

Looks like there might have been some premature celebration there.

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by Kestrel76 on Dec 5, 2011 7:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Man, that was a great 29 minutes.

by Evan on Dec 5, 2011 7:51 AM PST up reply actions  

TWSS

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 7:53 AM PST up reply actions  

No, no, that was 2.9 minutes.

by Evan on Dec 5, 2011 7:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Not bad.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2011 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Marathon session.

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by ResDog on Dec 5, 2011 8:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey Brandon, so about that stuff I just said…I was just joking. I think you will make a great SS!

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2011 7:53 AM PST up reply actions  

BREAKING

Oh, wait.

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 7:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Of course

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by DFARowand on Dec 5, 2011 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Get your shit together, fourth estate

It would be pretty funny if Nakajima had been signed by the Yomiuri Giants.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes. Ha ha ha. My sides, they split with laughter.

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by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 7:55 AM PST up reply actions  

WHY DO YOU FUCKING DASH MY DREAM LIKE THIS MOTHERFUCKERS

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FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

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can of corn

by jctGamer on Dec 5, 2011 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

There he is

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I was hoping you wouldn’t read any of that.

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by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

He got into GP’s stash o’ rum

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I feel like Buzz Lightyear when he learned that he was a toy

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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by jctGamer on Dec 5, 2011 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t you get it? I’m Mrs Nesbitt!

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by ResDog on Dec 5, 2011 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Son of a

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Dec 5, 2011 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

NO NO
In fact, according to Henson a deal with Arizona "could get done this week" if Kuroda is willing to drop his demand for second-year player option

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by DFARowand on Dec 5, 2011 7:53 AM PST reply actions  

Hiroki, man, you are a good pitcher. You go ask for whatever you want, and alternatively go to Japan or something.

by Hyoton on Dec 5, 2011 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

This would be bad.

How is Arizona the team putting together the best bid for him? I’d prefer him over CJ Wilson.

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by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 8:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Why would I trust the Muppets guy to give me accurate information about where Kuroda’s signing?

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by rxmeister on Dec 5, 2011 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I think we should sit tight until Baggage has something concrete.

Damn you Morosi.

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by gianator on Dec 5, 2011 7:56 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

I think we should sit tight until Baggs has something concrete.

Damn you Morosi.

Wilber Bucardo: Missing?

by gianator on Dec 5, 2011 7:56 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

It's not the Rockies.

#Rockies weren’t the team that bid on SS Nakajima, team official said.

Are the beat writers of each team going to tweet a denial of a bid?

Wilber Bucardo: Missing?

by gianator on Dec 5, 2011 8:00 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I think we should sit tight until Bags has something concrete.

Damn you Morosi.

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by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 7:57 AM PST reply actions  

I think we could list right until baguette has stonewalled cretins.

Damn you Marconi.

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by TheLetter2 on Dec 5, 2011 7:57 AM PST reply actions  

I think we could whilst the Bag that Stonewall Jackson in.

Damn you macaroni

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by kb2011sfg on Dec 5, 2011 8:03 AM PST up reply actions  

HOF announcements imminent

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 8:02 AM PST reply actions  

I think they should sit tight till Baggs has something concrete.

by Evan on Dec 5, 2011 8:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like he needs more fiber.

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 8:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Damn you millivinilli

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by kb2011sfg on Dec 5, 2011 8:04 AM PST up reply actions  

FWIW

Baggs has not said anything about the posting report being false. And I don’t take Shea that seriously anymore

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by Falconer88 on Dec 5, 2011 8:06 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I think he's at the HOF ceremony, so he might not have any idea.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 8:07 AM PST up reply actions  

He did tweet the original report about the posting

But he won’t probably talk about it later until after the HoF stuff is over with

I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55

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Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT

WHY IS CABRERA?!?!

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by Falconer88 on Dec 5, 2011 8:15 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Baggs is in Dallas, my bad

His post:

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/extrabaggs/2011/12/05/report-giants-appear-to-have-submitted-posting-bid-on-japanese-if-hiroyuki-nakajima/

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 8:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I completely forgot the Winter Meetings were in Dallas.

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by ResDog on Dec 5, 2011 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Nashville next year.

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by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 8:28 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s within ideal trolling distance by car.

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by TheLetter2 on Dec 5, 2011 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

They’re fun—-I got to go in 2009 when it was in Indianapolis. You need credentials to get into the meetings and the Rule-5 Draft, but you can just hang out in the hotel lobbies if you want to meet players, managers, reporters, etc.

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Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe I’ll grab a drink after work.

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by ResDog on Dec 5, 2011 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Aw, hell. I can sit around our lobby here and hang out with reporters.

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by TheLetter2 on Dec 5, 2011 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

But not players!

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure. The possibility of running into Brian McCann. That’s something you can do every day.

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by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Running into him sounds like it wouldn’t even hurt. Beefy.

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

It would be wonderful.

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by TheLetter2 on Dec 5, 2011 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m imagining you as the pitchman for Campbell’s Chunky Soup Men NOUN. I’m not sure what the product would be, but it would obviously be marketed by gentlemen such as Mr. McCann.

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

GET A SIGN AND GET DOWN THERE!

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2011 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I WILL COSINE

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

GREAT NOW WE'RE OFF ON A TANGENT

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

GIVE ME A SECANT TO THINK OF ANOTHER PUN

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

OK I'LL GIVE YOU SUM TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I WILL HAVE TO LOG YOUR GENEROSITY

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I"VE NOTHING TO ADD TO THIS SUBTHREAD

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 5, 2011 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I think they should fix the anti double posting algorithm for sbnation.

by Hyoton on Dec 5, 2011 8:05 AM PST reply actions  

I think they should fix the anti double posting algorithm for sbnation.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 5, 2011 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Santo to the HOF

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 8:06 AM PST reply actions  

Excellent. Too bad it didn’t happen while he was alive, though.

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by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 8:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Really bad.

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by ResDog on Dec 5, 2011 8:08 AM PST up reply actions  

extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
ROn Santo is in!!

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 8:07 AM PST up reply actions  

extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
ROn Santo is in!!

TWSS

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 5, 2011 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

About freaking time. 3B are so underrepresented in the HOF.

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 8:07 AM PST up reply actions  

There are alot less of them, but I’m not sure how underrepresented they are. Now that Santo is in, it’s hard to figure out who else you could make a case for who was really a 3B. Nettles maybe. But most of the guys who are high up on the 3b career WAR lists played significant to major parts of their career at other positions (Evans, Allen, Perez) Buddy Bell and Ken Boyer aren’t good enough.

Chipper will almost certainly go in and he’s played the majority of his career at 3B. Rolen I think probably should but won’t. But after those guys, it’s pretty hard to figure out who you could stick in there who isn’t already there from the career 3B).

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by Roger on Dec 5, 2011 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Update from our fearless leader
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Can’t locate the telegram station. BS

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by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 8:08 AM PST reply actions  

Damn you Marconi!

by Evan on Dec 5, 2011 8:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Stop playing the mambo and help him!

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by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 8:11 AM PST up reply actions  

LISTEN TO THE RADIO

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 8:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Sorry for all the posts. Went a little overboard there. I’ll stop now.

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by gianator on Dec 5, 2011 8:13 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

You’re fine. We were just funnin’ ya.

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by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 8:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Funyuns!

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 8:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Haha I know.

Rarely get to post here, so when I do, I try to get involved in all the discussions.

Still damn you Morosi!

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by gianator on Dec 5, 2011 8:17 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Moroni, you fargin icehole!

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by ResDog on Dec 5, 2011 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 5, 2011 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

:D
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by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 8:16 AM PST reply actions  

Classic hall of fame

Dick around until a guy his dead

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by DFARowand on Dec 5, 2011 8:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Classic hall of fame BBWAA

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by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Buck O’Neil says hi.

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by Kitspool on Dec 5, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

So given the the rumors, what are your expected outcomes for the Giants offseason

Yes or No to the following:

Beltran

Lincecum to a longterm deal

Lincecum to a 1-2 year deal

Cain to a longterm deal

Hairston

Alex Gonzalez

Affeldt traded

I’ll go first.

Beltran: No

Lincecum to a longterm deal: No

Lincecum to a 1-2 year deal: Yes

Cain to a longterm deal: Yes

Hairston: No

Alex Gonzalez: Yes

Affeldt traded: No

I think in the end Sabean overvalues Affeldt and no deal gets done. They clearly need a shortstop so I think Alex Gonzalez becomes the third straight stop gap vet at that position in as many years. Sabean wont go 8 like Tim wants and he’ll end up settling for something that keeps them out of arbitration just like they did two years ago. And there’s no way in hell they get Beltran.

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by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 8:23 AM PST reply actions  

Lincecum to a 1 year deal called arbitration?

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

That doesn’t sound very likely.

by Hyoton on Dec 5, 2011 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I think they can find common ground for one or two years.

But it’s pretty much one great big LOL, Sabean offering a 4 year deal to Timmy. I mean, he’s Tim Effing Lincecum, he saved your franchise. Show some respect.

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by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 8:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree. It’s just odd to put it as a “1 or 2 year deal” when he’s under team control for another 2.

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 8:28 AM PST up reply actions  

That's just what they have said publicly.

No more odd than signing a two year deal two years ago.

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by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 8:29 AM PST up reply actions  

True.

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxtJoGdujYo

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by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice.

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by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't look too hard, he might break
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Teams looking at Edgar Renteria as multi-position utility guy, including 3B. Wants to play for contender. #MLB

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by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 8:39 AM PST reply actions  

LOL that's nice. Good to know.
Wants to play for contender.

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by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

hopefully nobody will insult him with a low offer.

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by rxmeister on Dec 5, 2011 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Sigh

I had about 30 minutes of positive feelings about the Giants offseason this morning (HIro Nakajima would be huge in SF next season):
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/12/giants-appear-to-have-bid-on-nakajima.html

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by Fla-Giant on Dec 5, 2011 8:44 AM PST reply actions  

Morosi said both him and Rosenthal had it confirmed

I guess only time will tell.

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by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

still possible. There’s been enough time for those two to tweet a retraction since Shea made his comments.

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by rxmeister on Dec 5, 2011 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

That one was so unexpected

I though it was a SS (strong Safety) to the NY Giants.

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by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

So isn't it possible that the First rumors were correct

even though that goes against everything Sabean has ever done or said?

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by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Baggs hasn't shot it down yet

I’ll wait until he shoots down the report. Or we find out the winner of the bid. I don’t think Shea is reliable

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More Baggs:
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Probably mentioned yesterday.

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by bgunn on Dec 5, 2011 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s a brave brave man…

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by Merope on Dec 5, 2011 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I like this comment
Sabean needs to learn from what the A’s learned last year many players don’t care about posting fees they want it all. Any bid over $20 million means a deal will m ost likely not get done.

This guy clearly understands the posting system.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

The cake is a lie!

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 8:45 AM PST reply actions  

I made a pecan pie yesterday. I haven’t had any of it yet, though.

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by kdl on Dec 5, 2011 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Pecan Pie is always outstanding.

One of my favorite desserts. The ingredient list is a bit staggering hwoever from the nutrition perspective.

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by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m a cake person, but I love pecan pie.

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by kdl on Dec 5, 2011 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

How is your cold?

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by Merope on Dec 5, 2011 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Much better, thank you! :)

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by kdl on Dec 5, 2011 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know that I’ve ever tried pecan pie.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

You should. A good pecan pie is pretty great.

by chilibean_3 on Dec 5, 2011 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I am currently eating a raspberry pear pie for breakfast.

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

That sounds weird. Is it good?

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by rotorueter on Dec 5, 2011 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d say that it’s alright, but not great. Needs more raspberries, and it was my first time ever making pie, so I think the dough suffered (and I forgot the eggwash, so it isn’t nice and golden brown). Evaluate for yourself here.

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the second go will be much better than the first.

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Michael Cuddyer and Josh Willingham

Star Tribune:
Agents now are speculating that Michael Cuddyer will end up back with the Twins. The belief is that the offer Cuddyer and his agent, Casey Close, expected isn’t out there. That could change this week of course.

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 5, 2011 8:58 AM PST reply actions  

It also included the Rainy Day Fund, which asked for a charitable donation from Mr. Willingham.

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by speckops on Dec 5, 2011 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if they count contracts they didn’t sign as freed up money for the RDF. If so that fund grew a lot with the Reyes signing.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Good

I don’t want either of those guys at the price they want

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by DFARowand on Dec 5, 2011 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Why hasn’t there been any Beltran rumors?

It’s like teams are ignoring him or something.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 5, 2011 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I've thought about this. Here's what I've concluded.

We see: a guy who led the team offensively when he was playing.
Others see: a guy who missed a month after being traded and isn’t a 1.000 OPS type hitter and is average defensively.

He’s also, what, 36?

To us he looks like an offensive messiah to other deep pocketed teams, he’s just another bat.

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by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

It would be sweet if this was true and he could be had for a one-year “prove myself” deal.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 5, 2011 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe the less you hear of him means the less other people care the easier it is to sign him? Or maybe everybody’s just sitting around waiting for the Marlins to offer a ridiculous contract

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 5, 2011 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve been wondering about this too. I thought maybe since wuzziz name now signed with the Marlins that we’d hear more about Beltran this week?

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by Merope on Dec 5, 2011 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

He’ll be 35 next April and he did have an 1.134 OPS the last month of the season.

He takes good care of himself and is in really good shape and some players have longer careers than others.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 5, 2011 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

1.134 OPS the last month of the season.

SSS.

It’s pretty clear he’s a .850-.950 kind of hitter.

But that is GREAT in the context of the San Francsico Giants. It would be like adding another Posey or Panda typr bat.

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by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s probably also true that teams are turned off by the prospect of paying for someone who could rapidly decline because of age or become useless because of injury.

It’s probably understood by interested teams that he wants more than they are willing to offer and they are going after other players instead. For example, the Red Sox have Willingham near the top of their list.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 5, 2011 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I can understand this

what I don’t get is overpaying for relievers. Why has that become fashionable?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 5, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

See Armando Benitez

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Age/health is likely playing a role at this point but he’s pretty freaking good without having to compare him to the rest of the Giants offense.

by chilibean_3 on Dec 5, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Nothing more on Nakajima

Hopefully the situation will be clearer later today.

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by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 9:11 AM PST reply actions  

The Brewers were the only rumored team but
Brewer GM Doug Melvin said Friday he would not be posting a bid on Nakajima.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 5, 2011 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Giants?

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

This is why I don't care about college football
“I think the BCS is just a mess,” said George Wine, 80, who retired as sports information director at Iowa in 1996 and still writes stories for the Hawkeyes’ official site. “I think college football is crying for a playoff system. This voting is highly subjective. I realize that voting is subjective and often arbitrary. I probably don’t do as much research … but who the hell knows whether Oregon is better than Wisconsin?”

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/content/harris-voter-i-think-bcs-just-mess

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by DFARowand on Dec 5, 2011 9:16 AM PST reply actions  

If the things I’ve heard about the BCS being a total racket that does little except rip off the schools that play in its bowl games are true, then the ranking system is the least fucked up part of the whole thing.

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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2011 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Whats this?

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2011 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Another thing it would be nice if I would research properly: But my anecdotal understanding is that not a lot of the revenue generated by the BCS Bowl System actually goes to the schools that participate.

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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2011 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

That doesn’t seem that far fetched.

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by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2011 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Dan Wetzel

had a great article destroying the BCS about a week ago, especially the mathematical portion.

"Stern’s analysis was clearly right," said Bill James, the baseball statistics maven whose work was highlighted in the book and movie "Moneyball" and backs Stern’s call for a BCS boycott. "This isn’t a sincere effort to use math to find an answer at all. It’s clearly an effort to use math as a cover for whatever you want to do.

"It’s just nonsense math."

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-wetzel_football_hostage_illegitimate_bcs_112911

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought that was a lame article because it starts with this:

Understand this, though: No matter what it says, the BCS is not a system designed to choose a championship matchup. It is merely a tool to stave off the inevitable playoff bowl directors fear will cut into their millions in tax-free profits, a casino-style distraction to placate the masses.

And then spends exactly zero more sentences talking about the alarming part of that sentence. The whole thing is about how it’s weird to have computers vote and shit.

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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2011 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

To be fair, I guess, it is pretty weird to have computers shit. Apple may have gone a little far with that innovation.

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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2011 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

“Siri, where can I find some diapers for a computer?”

by Hyoton on Dec 5, 2011 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I got a little of that

but I think Wetzel’s point is that the “computer portion” of the BCS is nothing more than a cover and that a better system exists but is not used by the BCS intentionally.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

you mean the part about the bowl directors? There was a whole write up, possibly even a book or two written last year? on that whole subject. I don’t follow college sports at all, I just remember last year or maybe the year before getting tired of hearing about it. People were constantly honking on about it on KNBR.

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by Merope on Dec 5, 2011 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I feel like if bowl revenue that should probably be going to schools isn’t, though, it’s a pretty big fucking deal. There’s a lot of cash tied up in that system.

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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2011 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

that’s what part of it was. That the schools could make way more money the bowl director people apparently get huge salaries – year round- for doing the bowl thing.

Then there was stuff about bowls not wanting teams if they don’t “travel well” I would guess that’s for the non-BCS type bowls.

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by Merope on Dec 5, 2011 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Fiesta Bowl scandal prompts Senate Ethics inquiry.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I recall that happening.

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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2011 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

A final four playing off into a NC game would be perfect this year.

Use the Fiesta and Sugar to play off into the NC. Make the Sugar between LSU and Stanford and the Fiesta between OSU and Bama. Or keep it a bit more regional and keep the Fiesta as is an dhave them play the winner of the Sugar (Bama or LSU).

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by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

The only way that the BCS will die

is if the ratings for the championship game tank in comparison to the other “BCS” bowl.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I think they are actually very well positioned to go make the change I outlined.

It would eliminate two BCS births, but if they combined that with ridding the all conferences of AQ status and just taking the top 8 teams in the BCS equation regardless of conference, they could definitely pass it off as “more fair” and maybe even, just plain old “fair.” They wouldn’t have to change any dates since the NC game already plays a week or more after the other BCS bowls.

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by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Granted this is Football and not Mens Volleyball

but that is essentially the system Men’s Volleyball has used. Only a 4 team playoff.

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by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Infact with the way the archetcture stands right now...

I would guess that the system has been designed this way. In a manner that they could become far more “fair” when threatened by outside forces, legal or otherwise, on a one year timeframe without disrupting too much the rest of the system.

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by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

38 degrees

Too cold to run outside?

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by ResDog on Dec 5, 2011 9:27 AM PST reply actions  

Too cold to continue living.

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by TheLetter2 on Dec 5, 2011 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

TL2!!

We missed you.

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by Tortured on Dec 5, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s good to see you.

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by TheLetter2 on Dec 5, 2011 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

nipple-chafe.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 5, 2011 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Intrigued

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by ResDog on Dec 5, 2011 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I walk when it’s that cold outside. Mittens, head covering, and something to cover your mouth/nose area is important.

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by Merope on Dec 5, 2011 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I best not. I huff & puff a lot.

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by ResDog on Dec 5, 2011 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah that wouldn’t work too well. Your scarf would be frozen to your face.

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by Merope on Dec 5, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

And now it’s drizzling. I’ll just be a little jollier for xmas.

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by ResDog on Dec 5, 2011 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I just ate a bunch of peppermint/chocolate dipped pretzels given to me by my secret santa. I love/hate him/her.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I tried to go outside to water the plants and rake up the fallen leaves, but I think my neighbors have some kind of “person who hates 2nd hand smoke” detector. Within 5 minutes of stepping outside I get smoke coming at me from 2 out of the 3 possible directions.

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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 5, 2011 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Spray em with the hose

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by ResDog on Dec 5, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

hehehehehe

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 5, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s too something to run outside

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Dec 5, 2011 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Fat & lazy in my case.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 5, 2011 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

That's not very cold

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by DFARowand on Dec 5, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Nah. You’ll warm up quickly.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

When Reyes starts to stink it up in Miami,

do we remember this post? I’m glad the Giants didn’t pay him that money, but he would have been a huge upgrade and help.

There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.

by Giant_in_la_area on Dec 5, 2011 9:28 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

It’s by Goofus—of course we will.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 5, 2011 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

When he is the best SS in the game for 4 of the 6 years do we remember your post?

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by DFARowand on Dec 5, 2011 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Is that when he stays healthy,

or actually tries to play hard like last year. I just don’t trust Reyes to continue to play like last year.

There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.

by Giant_in_la_area on Dec 5, 2011 9:35 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

but all he needs to be is JJ Hardy for the next 6 years!

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

But for that much

they are expecting more. I know he is a very good player, and would love to see him here, but if the injuries persist can they justify that contract?

There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.

by Giant_in_la_area on Dec 5, 2011 9:41 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

That was actually a reference to the fangraph defense of the signing.

BTW: I have turned 180 and am now all for the move since I learned that Cowherd hates the signing.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Why do you believe he is going to stink it up?

by chilibean_3 on Dec 5, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Poo.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2011 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

That was a poor choice of words. When his contract becomes a burden would have been better.

There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.

by Giant_in_la_area on Dec 5, 2011 9:37 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Ok. So you think he wont be worth the money because he’ll get hurt and/or play lazy. I don’t know. The years where you think he wasn’t playing hard he was still a top SS. I can at least understand your injury fears though I wasn’t worrying about it much.

by chilibean_3 on Dec 5, 2011 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

been hanging around the MDs too much; too many legumes

by Hyoton on Dec 5, 2011 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Laynce Nix signs with Phillies
@Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Source: Nix two-year contract with #Phillies worth $2.5 million. Should not preclude other moves. #MLB

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 5, 2011 9:28 AM PST reply actions  

This seems cheap

He’s maintained good production the past three seasons as a part time player.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 5, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

This is pretty good
If Nix is the last offensive piece the Phillies plan on adding outside of short stop, it will have been a puzzling offseason. In Ruben Amaro Jr.’s end-of-the-season press conference, he expressed a desire to put together better at-bats, particularly with two strikes. But the three hitters the Phillies have added are all the opposite kind of hitter: Wigginton is a career .185 two-strike hitter; Thome is a career .172 two-strike hitter. And Nix is a career .141 two-strike hitter. Rather than pursuing the type of veteran contact hitters that gave them fits against the Cardinals, the Phillies have added two swing-and-miss power hitters to go with a power-hitting utility man in decline. None will provide much in the way of options if Mayberry ends up struggling in an everyday role.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillies/135008358.html#ixzz1fgPFR1wH

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

RAJ

is fast becoming the worst GM in baseball. Combine that with desperation, the Phillies are going to be bad for many years to come.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Phillies’ fans seem to think that RAJ is operating under the belief that if he spends…spends…spends…the team will always contend and if the team always contends they’ll have the money to spend…spend…spend… but he’s made such bad decisions they’re comparing it to a tech stock in the late ’90’s.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 5, 2011 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Inflation = infinite

by Hyoton on Dec 5, 2011 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Sigh

All players are terrible with two strikes. All of them. Citing two strike stats is moronic.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Ty Wigginton, Jim Thome, Laynce Nix. One of these things doesn’t belong here, one of these things just doesn’t belong.

by Hyoton on Dec 5, 2011 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

FTFY

Ty Wiggington Jym Thome Laynce Nix

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 5, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh hey

I met Lance Nix a few weeks ago while he was a guest for a wedding at the hotel I work for; nice guy. I also met Billy Butler and Jeremy Hermida. They were all in town for the same wedding, and I know it was a ball player’s wedding, but I never ended up finding out who it was because I don’t work too closely with that particular department.

by JSing on Dec 5, 2011 10:24 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Baggs floats another one of my whales of whiteness
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
Stanford guy, switch hitter. Would be fit for SF if BOS needs relief. RT @nickcafardo A few teams asking about Sox utilityman Jed Lowrie.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 9:30 AM PST reply actions  

This would be awesome.

But IMO it’s just not enough for Boston.

RIP 2011 Giants Post Season

by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I would love that

But even suggesting Boston would give him to us for Ramon Ramirez or Affeldt is laughable.

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by DFARowand on Dec 5, 2011 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Sweetspot

had an entry in which they debated whether a Lowrie for Minor trade would be equal.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Lowrie's a bit of an odd case

Because they don’t really need him for anything, and he’s always hurt, so teams don’t seem to have a high impression of his value. I agree that he couldn’t be gotten for RamRam or Affeldt alone, but I think a relief-centered package might work. It would likely have to include one of our better prospects, though.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Runzler and Affeldt!

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Do we even have any good prospects left to trade other than Brown?

I believe we can’t trade any of our picks this year.

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by DFARowand on Dec 5, 2011 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I meant someone like ToJo or Hector or Ehire or something

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Re-sign RamRam

and send him and Nighttrain back to Bos.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Can't trade Lopez.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

That's right

wasn’t really going to happen anyways. I just like the trading Bos their former relievers angle.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Everything is good

except for the Stanfurd part.

If Sabean gets Lowrie for Affeldt and a prospect, the Giants should throw Zito in for free.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

J’yes!

Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
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by ResDog on Dec 5, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I presume this some kind of “Lannister.”

Celebrating 60 years of NBC News Today, January 14, 1952 - January 14, 2012

by TheLetter2 on Dec 5, 2011 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

No, actually he was sworn to Storm's End and Renly

but he declared for King Joffrey Baratheon later, who TECHNICALLY is a Lannister, but he doesn’t know that, and…

Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Dec 5, 2011 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

One of our station volunteers just came into my office to ask if GP is a girl. To my great credit, I answered the question without laughing.

Celebrating 60 years of NBC News Today, January 14, 1952 - January 14, 2012

by TheLetter2 on Dec 5, 2011 9:41 AM PST reply actions  

his name is Leslie Ann Levine

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Dec 5, 2011 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

With a very firm “Yes, of course he is,” right?

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Dec 5, 2011 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

No, no. I did the right thing.

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by TheLetter2 on Dec 5, 2011 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I know you posted above

Glad to see you back! Was getting worried that we had pushed you away. You know, sometimes why the relationship goes too fast, a person can get a little defensive…

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, that is pretty much what happened. I took some time for myself, and did other things. I think the lesson is probably to reduce the amount of time I spend here in a given day.

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by TheLetter2 on Dec 5, 2011 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Wait wat

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ll explain on Twitter.

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by TheLetter2 on Dec 5, 2011 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s having the volunteers draw up the Weather map.

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by ResDog on Dec 5, 2011 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

TL2 is so important he hires people to waste time for him

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Dec 5, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Nakajima!

Here’s where we see the Rainy Day Fund in action, right?

Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Dec 5, 2011 9:45 AM PST reply actions  

No if John Shea has anything to say about it.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Right...?

RIP 2011 Giants Post Season

by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Someone form an opinion on Jed Lowrie for me. He doesn’t seem overly good.

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on Dec 5, 2011 9:45 AM PST reply actions  

He is not Brandon Crawford.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 9:46 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Winner

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by ResDog on Dec 5, 2011 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

But is he ‘not Brandon Crawford’ enough to be worth anything more than free?

by chilibean_3 on Dec 5, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

decent

but injury prone. Available because Boston already has Avile and Scutaro. People believe that he will garner a big return but I think Affeldt and a mid/low prospect would do it.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Sounds a lot like a hobbit I know.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

He was drafted in the 1st round by Theo. So he is teh awesome!!!!!!!!!

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2011 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

If he's healthy and hits his career averages, he'd be very good, and cheap.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Very good seems like an overstatement. But I can kind of see it if he can handle SS, and stay healthy.

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on Dec 5, 2011 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Look, you little shit, you can't ask me to come up with an opinion for you and then complain about the one you get

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I reject your opinion!

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on Dec 5, 2011 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

And not to be sematic about it

But average-defending shortstops who hit .252/.324/.408 are good. I don’t know how you differentiate the “very” from the “non-very”, but whatever.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Dec 5, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

The guy hasn’t played in more than 90 since 2008. I’m not very interested.

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Dec 5, 2011 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

more than 90 games that is

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Dec 5, 2011 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't mind it if the Giants can get him

for Affeldt. That would also mean the end of Fontenot though.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks to all those rehab assignments, he has great minor league numbers!

by Hyoton on Dec 5, 2011 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Spells his name funny.

by Evan on Dec 5, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

HardBallTalk:

Joe Capozzi of the Palm Beach Post reports that the Phillies are "strong players" for free agent third baseman Aramis Ramirez. Meanwhile, Todd Zolecki of MLB.com confirms that the Phils do indeed have interest.

The most likely scenario is that the Phillies envision Ramirez as a fallback option for their lineup if they are unable to retain free agent shortstop Jimmy Rollins. They can’t possibly afford both, right? Buster Olney of ESPN.com wrote earlier this morning that it appears the Phils’ biggest competition for Rollins may come from the Brewers or Cardinals, though his colleague Jerry Crasnick hears that St. Louis doesn’t plan to pursue him even if they are unable to re-sign Albert Pujols.

Link

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 5, 2011 9:46 AM PST reply actions  

Did I say the RAJ is fast becoming the worst GM?

He is now the worst GM.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Did he get approval to approach Yankee levels with payroll? Are they actually nervous about the Marlins?

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by rxmeister on Dec 5, 2011 9:48 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, the ownership group in Phillie is a tight nit group of 10 or so people who are represented by Dave Montegomery (who IIRC is also the largest share older). Monty is involved pretty directly with the club, though he does allow RAJ lots of freedom.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2011 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

there may be some cracks involving the Madson thing but that may have been patched over with a lot of Papelbon.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

The theory here is that RAJ went rogue on that one just to see the price Madson wanted and that Monty never nixed the deal.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2011 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

SO yes the Phillies ownership is very much involved with payroll. Hence all the creative Cliff Lee trade and contract.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2011 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

This is why
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Rival exec: #Phillies actively trying to move Polanco. Would clear 3B for A. Ramirez. #MLB

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by DFARowand on Dec 5, 2011 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

And the first RAJ overpay to be cut short is….

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2011 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess you gotta give it to RAJ

He’s got the balls to make moves.

RIP 2011 Giants Post Season

by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

The guy declined a $16 million option.

Probably wants 3-4 years at $16-18 million per.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

SWOOP!

He’s played 786 innings at SS, the last time being in 2005!

by Every6thDay on Dec 5, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m sure Polanco would love to move as well, but that isn’t happening either.

by Hyoton on Dec 5, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

What has this world become?
In a sign of dire economic times across the pond, Buckingham Palace is now doing some budget busting, with the queen herself due for a pay freeze and Prince Charles set to foot the bill for some major expenses.

Queen Elizabeth II will see six consecutive years of frozen pay, as new austerity measures in the U.K. have cut funding for the royal household.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 9:52 AM PST reply actions  

That’s a real shame.

by chilibean_3 on Dec 5, 2011 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Not the kind of world I want to live in
"You don’t really realize, but the queen is going around Buckingham Palace, turning off the lights, having fewer staff, even turning the heating down. She sometimes even writes letters in her very own fur coat," Ingrid Seward, editor-in-chief of Royal magazine, told ABC News.

by Hyoton on Dec 5, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

So...

we didn’t get Reyes?

Quelle surprise, as Bruce Bochy’s French ancestors might say.

"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein

by Kitspool on Dec 5, 2011 9:57 AM PST reply actions  

Mamma Mia! As Bruce Bochy’s French ancestors wouldn’t say

by Hyoton on Dec 5, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Bork bork bork! As Bruce Bochy always sounds like in my mind.

by chilibean_3 on Dec 5, 2011 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Swedish!

RIP 2011 Giants Post Season

by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Alright...driving up to Ventura

Hopefully the Giants don’t sign Yuni on the first morning of Winter Meeting.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 10:01 AM PST reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Phillies senior advisor and former GM Pat Gillick would consider a position as the Dodgers’ new president of baseball operations, he told Bill Shaikin of the L.A. Times.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 10:02 AM PST reply actions  

Dang it quote fail
Phillies senior advisor and former GM Pat Gillick would consider a position as the Dodgers’ new president of baseball operations, he told Bill Shaikin of the L.A. Times.

Gillick is good right?

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by CalBear949 on Dec 5, 2011 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

“Stand” Pat Gillick? Kind of a retread, if memory serves me correct.

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by Kitspool on Dec 5, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Gillick is good right?

They did put him in the HoF last year.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 5, 2011 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Gillick built what RAJ is destroying

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

He helped build the Blue Jays teams of the early 90’s, the last Orioles teams to make the playoffs in the late 90’s (the one that could have won it all if it weren’t for Jeffrey Maier), the Griffey Jr/ARod Mariner’s teams, and your current Phillies team, so, yeah, he’s pretty good.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 5, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

DID IT WITH ROIDS!

Brady Anderson, Alex Rodriguez, Aaron Boone…

RIP 2011 Giants Post Season

by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

OT: Boardwalk Empire

Ew, ew, ew, that Gillian is evil, sick and wrong. Great tv episode, tho.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 5, 2011 10:07 AM PST reply actions  

I’m enjoying the season a lot.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 5, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s way better than S1. I do like how this latest ep tied in a lot of things from both seasons.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 5, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

The back-story on Jimmy “the (literal) motherfucker” Darmody really amplified his character. Some good writing where I wasn’t expecting it.

And polio seems so ancient, but damn, wasn’t really that long ago.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 5, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve really enjoyed both seasons. Going to catch last night’s episode tonight on HBO Go!

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by jhiat00 on Dec 5, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I am so many weeks behind on that. I think I’ll catch up on Bored to Death first.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Dec 5, 2011 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

The Mr. usually watches that. I wonder if he remembered to dvr it this weekend.

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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 5, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd take him 4 Zito or them paying a lot of the money
The Cubs are getting a bit of interest in left fielder Alfonso Soriano, tweets SI’s Jon Heyman. Soriano, 35, is owed $54MM through 2014 and has a full no-trade clause. I think the Cubs would have to eat over $40MM to move Soriano

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by DFARowand on Dec 5, 2011 10:16 AM PST reply actions  

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No public word from Hanley Ramirez on if he’s ok with position switch. Until that changes, trade remains possibility.

by Every6thDay on Dec 5, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

They would probably take Zito for him.

One less year.

Zito 2/45
Soriano 3/54

RIP 2011 Giants Post Season

by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

With the 7 mil buy out we have to give Zito the Contracts are basically the same

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Dec 5, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

My number included the buyout.

27 million in 2013. 19 million in 2012.

That buy out is so high I am almost fearfull, they will pick up the 11 million more so as to not “waste” the 7 million.

RIP 2011 Giants Post Season

by Cody_ransom on Dec 5, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

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