One Last Hope
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 23, 2011 10:32 AM PST
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PrintThe rage isn't gone -- just simmering under the surface. The Giants should have had two goals in the offseason. The first should have been to find a shortstop. The second should have been to keep Carlos Beltran. The Cardinals did both! Boy, they're having a great offseason. Except for that one thing. Still, the Cardinals coming away with both Beltran and Rafael Furcal makes me jealous, especially seeing as they're a small-market team.
But the last thing the world needs is some unwashed guy handing out pamphlets in front of AT&T Park, which is sort of the caricature this place would devolve into after just a couple more "WHAR MORE HITTERS? WHAR?"-screeds. Turns out they hit their budget with Aubrey Huff after Barry Zito and Aaron Rowand pushed them to their max. Also turns out that none of those three contracts were a good idea. Let's write 10,000 more words about that some day.
It's the bargaining stage now, and I'm clawing at reasons why the Giants aren't going to have the worst non-Astros lineup in baseball. I think I have a good one. It's not just the return of Buster Posey either, although without looking up his WAR compared to Eli Whiteside's, I think that's good for 27 more wins and 129 additional runs. It's not just the return of Freddy Sanchez, who will really move some sweet runners along in his 33 games.
I can look at the lineup and be thrilled with 25% of it. Another 25% is perfectly reasonable, considering (Melky and Pagan). There's 25% of the lineup that makes me furrow my brow and mutter something like, "okay i guess i can deal with freddy sanchez and schierholtz i guess, they're okay" under my breath. Mix in a hope for some fluky BABIP nonsense or career years, and if you squint, all isn't necessarily lost. The best way to put it: It's not quite as insane as hoping for Dan Ortmeier, Jose Castillo, and a 41-year-old Omar Vizquel will somehow do something amazing.
But give me one more hitter. That's all. And there's still a chance. No, there is another, in nerdspeak. It will take a little effort. It will take some cajoling. It will take threats. It will take a conversation like this:
Sabean: Put Brandon Belt in the lineup.Bochy: Welllll, you've got Huffy on the comeback trail, and I don't want to stick him in the outfield, mess with his mental state.
Sabean: Put Brandon Belt in the lineup.
Bochy: Wellllllll, Pilly's shown me a lot, and he has the experienced approach that you can only find from a 35-year-old prospect.
Sabean: Put Brandon Belt in the lineup.
Bochy: Welllllllllll, Manny needs some at-bats if he's going to be a pinch-hitter, and he plays first now, so …
Sabean: Put Brandon Belt in the lineup.
Bochy: Hrmmgarrumphwelllllllll, looks like Ted Lilly's on the mound. Welp, can't start Belt today.
Sabean: /flicks open switchblade
I'm not saying that Sabean is openly pushing for Belt in the lineup. But he should be. Belt is the chance at a lineup that can keep the pitchers from a Matt Williams hairline. Belt has the minor-league numbers and the scouting profile of a player that can turn into something better than the league average this year, with the potential for something more. I guess Huff has the same profile, but I'm biased in favor of prospects. That, and science is on my side.
I know this isn't realistic. It's gonna be Pill and Huff and Huff and Pill, with Belt down in Fresno. No, seriously. They'll get another outfielder -- say, have I mentioned my Ryan Ludwick prediction? -- and decide they need Pill's right-handed bat on the bench. I'm often wrong. Here's hoping I am with this one, too …
But look at the ZiPS projections. Ignore the name at the top of the list because we're done with the rage. Most of the lineup -- with a middle-infield exception -- is projected for an OPS+ of 99 or better. I'll take it. But close to the top is Brandon Belt, who is quietly expected to do awesome things. No Beltran? I'll get over it in 2015. But the failure to upgrade the lineup can be softened just a little by using the in-house option wisely.
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Belt will be awesome in 2012… in Fresno.
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Better that than the bench in SF.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Has anyone ever seen Phil Collins & Matt Williams in the same place at the same time?
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by satyricrash on Dec 23, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
Matt Williams was Phil Collins’ stunt double in Miami Vice, believe it or not.
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Isn’t that the bald-o that teamed up with Philip Bailey on that catchy “Easy Lover” diddy???
Boo
by LosGigantesTodoElTiempo on Dec 23, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
I think Huff will most likely be an average 1st-baseman next year.
It would be nice to see Belt get a lot of time in the outfield. Preferably at the expense, evenly divided, of Schierholtz and Cabrera.
I pressed post on accident but instead of adding more to that I think I’ll just leave it.
by chilibean_3 on Dec 23, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
Ironically, Belt is the reason I did not want them to trade for Beltran in the first place last July
because of reasons?
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So you're sayin you hate it because of reasons?
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I agree with you
Because of reasons
Blerg
by Myemail21479 on Dec 23, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t care for the comment, but responding because of reasons to something that doesn’t make sense is better than referencing the underwear gnomes for the 1000th time.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 23, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
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by can of corn on Dec 23, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
Belt is the reason for the season.
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by satyricrash on Dec 23, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
What I cant stand
Most rage-filled bases have already been covered in one way or another. This whole situation with the off-season is about as ugly as Kellen Moore’s face. It’s more about team philosophy. We have a perceived “pitcher friendly” park and incredible eye and talent with pitchers of all ages with our FO and staff. Pitchers shoujld want to come here and pitch much like a hitter wants to go to Colorado. Therefore, naturally, we should expect to hone and develop pitchers on the cheap, like Mota and Ramirez. I mean, when you can clean the dodger taint off Mota and make him kinda look like a serviceable reliever, that’s near miracle status. In this case, we should be looking for pitchers on the cheap that our staff thinks they can spin into gold, or at least bronze. Then we go and sign a bunch of LOOGY’s for a ton of cash in our supposed limited coffers?
We are terrible with hitters. They aren’t as willing to come here to resurrect careers or sign cheaply based on the perception of the park. Therefore we need to attract hitters here that are more established. The FO knows all of this, and still seems to be ass backwards. You don’t buy the hotel room before you have your prom date, and you definitely don’t buy two hotel rooms trying to attract a prom date.
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by Giant Voodoo on Dec 23, 2011 10:44 AM PST reply actions 9 recs
You don’t buy the hotel room before you have your prom date, and you definitely don’t buy two hotel rooms trying to attract a prom date.
That might be the greatest metaphor for the Giants FO failings that I’ve ever seen. I’m standing and applauding at my cubicle right now.
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
This post is evidence that Grant has decided that we have focused too much rage and hatred on Brian Sabean and the ownership group
He wants us to now aim it back at Bruce Bochy.
Lolinups
April 1- 2012
Pagan CF
Sanchez 2B
Panda 3B
Posey C
Huff LF
Melky LF
Belt 1B
Crawford SS
April 1 – 2013
Brown CF
Panik 2B
Panda 3B
Posey C
Belt 1B
Nate RF
Melky LF – Biggest question after SS, could be anyone, just a guess
Fontenot SS – After taking over mid season 2012
Blerg
Two left fielders would be quite a strategy
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Been done.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5wcT3dtii8
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2 rookies on opening day 2013?
never, ever, ever gonna happen with this team
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 23, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
I’d kind of like to see Panik play at a higher level than the Northwest League before I assume he can go from college to the majors in a year and a half.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
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Boo
by LosGigantesTodoElTiempo on Dec 23, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Can some explain to me why Sabean extended Affeldt and Sanchez?
I know this is old news, and I am not talking about Affeldt’s current extension. I am talking about when Sabean had a year left on each deal. In both cases he extended both players. Was he thinking if they performed well, then he would have to go mulit-year? Affeldt had his worst year as a Giant in 2010, and may not have been invited back for 2011. Or certainly could have been brought back cheaper. Sanchez of course got hurt, but I highly doubt he would get his deal for 2012 this offseason. Again, Sabean must have been thinking each would do well and perhaps not demand more money on an annual basis, but maybe want more than one year. It just seems very questionable to want to lock up a middle reliever and an oft-injured mid thirties 2B.
Because he’s incompetent.
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He did it because if Wilson and Romo get Malaria, Bochy is comfortable using these two. It doesn’t matter that they are weak elsewhere and had some decent pieces to use if Wilson got small pox and Romo got lost in Vietnam.
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If you can explain to me why Sabean and Botchy were extended, I'll answer your question.
Hint: Incompetence is a good place to begin.
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by Sabean's_Folly on Dec 23, 2011 9:53 PM PST up reply actions
Play Belt? LOL
Pill: “Gotta earn it first. Good luck in Fresno, Belt.”
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 23, 2011 10:49 AM PST reply actions
but a small face
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at least he doesn’t look like Ryan Doumit
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by Giant Voodoo on Dec 23, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
Neither has he, because he swings at everything.
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by calgiants86 on Dec 23, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions 5 recs
This was good for chuckle
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Geez
people keep saying this.
But Buster didn’t earn it in AAA…Belt will start a lot in 2012. He played in 18 of the Giants last 24 games, starting 16. He also played in 15 of the Giants last 17, starting in 14 of them.
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Yes
Buster played AAA for about a month before being promoted and remained on the roster for the rest of year. Sabean traded Molina away just to allow Buster to play at C, even though Buster was slumping at the time of the trade.
I think Belt will be given every chance to play regularly until at least end of June. I think Pill will go down to AAA and Huff will mostly play in the OF with an occasional start at 1B.
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So the starting OF is Huff in LF, Melky in RF and Pagan in CF?
Belt at 1B?
Nate is the 4th OF.
Who will be the RH bat off the bench?
Burriss
LOL
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
oh heck!
Lookie what I found….
awhile back some people were wanting pocket schedules for the Sharks, we went to a game a few weeks ago and I picked up some extras. I have 3 left. Send me an email with an address if you want one.
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Oh, Yahoo. That the commenter's handle is USA really takes this over the top.
USA 9 minutes ago
He must of never went to any English classes. He did a very poor job of speaking.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 23, 2011 10:57 AM PST reply actions
must of?
we all know it’s musta
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by Giant Voodoo on Dec 23, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
It would have been a shame if the teacher were injured and forced to re-sign.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 23, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
No, "You're Momma!"
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To those that need to site history too justify having “a chip on their shoulder” today, I say “your momma!”
This is like Marco Belinelli lighting up NBA summer league
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I really wonder
whether just before Sabean pulled the trigger on the Beltran trade, he specifically told ownership: Because we’re giving up a prospect like Wheeler for a two-month rental, we HAVE to re-sign this guy in the offseason to make it worthwhile.
And maybe Neukom, who was ostensibly still in charge of the owners at that time, gave the green light to make the trade with that assumption in place. Then Bowtie was ousted, the new owners in charge decided they didn’t want to spend whatever it cost to get Beltran back, and suddenly Sabes was left holding the bag, so to speak.
This doesn’t explain re-signing Affeldt and Lopez, but still.
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
I still don’t understand how trading for Beltran last July has anything to do with signing him as a FA this offseason.
Does the trade of Wheeler have anything to do with where he signs as a free agent?
No, not from his perspective.
But prospects are more valuable than money. Bird in the hand and all that. If the Giants thought him worth trading for last July, it’s mind-boggling that they saw no reason to pursue him in the offseason.
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Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 23, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
*the 'he' in my SL referring to Beltran, of course.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 23, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
I am willing to believe that they legitimately rented Beltran with the hopes that he would get them to the playoffs last season. I also think it is likely that they were disappointed in his attitude or his proclivity for injury and thus did not want to throw more money at him this offseason. I still hate the fact that they made the trade in July. I am disappointed that they did not sign him now, but those two facts are not related in my head.
But prospects are more valuable than money.
Well, not really. Every prospect has a monetary valuation.
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I hear a bird in the hand also has a defined value.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 23, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
It sounds to me that the Beltran trade was the straw that broke the camels back
And re-signing him was not going to happen, as soon as Neukom was gone.
Blerg
by Myemail21479 on Dec 23, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
I think that's something close to what happened
Sabean made the trade thinking he’d have the payroll flexibility to re-sign Beltran, then the regime change came.
Mark DeRosa , he had his moments.
I feel like I've been saying this too much the last couple days
But I don’t care about the office dynamics of San Francisco Baseball Associates. It doesn’t matter whether Sabes or Baer or Bryan Srabian is responsible. The thing is, it happens.
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Doesn't really matter.
If you need to re-sign a guy to make a rental worth it, that means you shouldn’t do the rental! Because having traded for him or not really doesn’t have much bearing on offseason signability.
Good call Grant
This is the only hope. I just don’t have faith in this team to do the right thing
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 23, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
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Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 23, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Hoping like Hell.
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by Cody_ransom on Dec 23, 2011 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
Just a question
Why are most people assuming a 1B/OF combo of Huff/Nate/Melky/Pagan over Belt/Huff/Pagan/Melky? I know your first instinct is to ask me “Are you new here?”, but they did say Huff would be playing more OF this year to get Belt settled in at 1st, and they were happy with his winter ball progress.
Most of the Huff-to-outfield talk came before they got Pagan.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 23, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
it's been the kind of offseason that doesn't leave most of us optimistic
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What makes you think that Belt is going to play?
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The same thing that makes my kids think that a fat man in a red suit is going to fly to my house on a sled led by a bunch of deer tomorrow night.
Lies your parents tell you.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
Like “If you work hard and do what you love you’ll get ahead” ?
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
Hairy palms would be kind of cool, though. Not even Beast has hairy palms. That would be just another point in the favor of jerking off too much.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
My list is currently scored at 129-0.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
It worked for me!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
Because
he played a lot in September.
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So did Justin Christian.
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Well
considering they had DFA’d Rowand, I expected him to.
He played in 18 of the Giants’ last 21 games starting 12.
Torres started 7 of the other 21 games.
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1B
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He played a lot in September, when it was pretty clear that they were out of the race. That does nothing to convince me he will play in April, when they are still “in this thing.”™
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Actually
Giants were in the race until the very last week.
or have we forgotten the 8 game winning streak in early-mid September when Belt and Crawford played regularly.
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Disagree
Red = chance of playoffs; blue = chance of division; black = chance of WC. They didn’t even break the 10% mark with that winning streak.
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Also, I’m tempted to ‘shop this and circle that little bump in September with "we’re in this thing!"
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I'm pretty sure you can MS Paint that
Also mark the even money point.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 23, 2011 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
Yup
Not yet being mathematically eliminated from the playoffs =/= “in it”
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
This is from July
http://22gigantes.com/2011/07/giants-playoff-chances-now-at-694.html
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 23, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
LOLU
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
I mean, yes, obviously they were in the race until they were eliminated. But in practical terms of not relying on a complete once-in-a-lifetime miracle? Nah.
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No
but it negates the point about him playing garbage time.
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In what way? It was, for all practical purposes, garbage time.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
What? That’s garbage time. At the peak, they had a 5% chance of making it. Which means the rest of the time, their odds were substantially worse. That’s pretty much the definition of garbage time.
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I can’t find the link but at some point the Giants were about 3 games back of the Braves and 1 back of the Cardinals.
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September
I believe just before the LA series in which the Giants lost to freaking Kershaw again.
Had the Giants beaten Kershaw, they would have been tied with the Cardinals at 2 back because the Cards and Braves both lost.
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Are you arguing with the percentages in the graph now?
They had, at best, a 5% shot. That’s pretty much the be-all, end-all of this argument.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 23, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
5% is not out of it, in my book
1 in 20 isn’t thaaaat long of odds
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1 in 20 isn’t thaaaat long of odds
This is the reason all the Vegas casino’s make so much money, that quote right there.
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by danieljgrant on Dec 23, 2011 8:28 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
That is a great sig.
And yeah, “a 1-in-20 shot” sounds a lot better than “a 95% chance of failure.”
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 24, 2011 7:03 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, it does.
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At the same time I realize that a team has to be realistic about the odds, I also think giving up in the face of 20-1 odds is pretty weak.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 24, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
But...
If someone comes to you and says…
I’ll give you odds that there’s a 95% chance of Thing A happening versus a 5% chance of the exact opposite happening.
…who in their right mind takes the 5%?
The only way that happens is if there is a HUGE reward for going for the 5%. It is very easy to argue that the best thing the Giants did for the 2012 season was to play the young guys at the end of the year.
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by danieljgrant on Dec 24, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
The huge reward is the playoffs.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 24, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Ok... I agree...
But what would you have bet on? Say…
I’ll give you $20 at 95%, or $250 at 5%. One time bet. What are you choosing?
The Giants chose the more likely of the two outcomes. And as I said, it may be to the 2012 Giants benefit to play the young guys.
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by danieljgrant on Dec 24, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Giving me questionably applicable math problems isn’t going to change the fact that I want everyone in uniform trying to win every game regardless of the circumstances.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 24, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
Uh-huh...
…and so in your life, any time the odds of something happening are 5%, you don’t bother.
Imagine finding out you’re one of 20 finalists for some huge lottery thing. When they call to inform you, are you going to say “Nah, count me out…that’s just garbage time.”
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That's not a fair comparison to me
The point is that by the time Belt got playing time, they were clearly out of it.
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"They were clearly out of it"
No they weren’t. Haven’t there have been a lot of cases where teams have come back from longer odds?
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Well, yes.
5% of all teams that have found themselves in that situation is a sizable list at this point. But rate stats are a lot more useful than counting stats.
There have been zillions more cases where teams didn’t come back from those odds. Is it outrageous when a manager pulls his starters in the sixth when down 11-3? If a boxer is getting shelled every round, but he’s got that massive right hook!, should his manager let him stay out there and be bludgeoned?
I don’t see a problem with a team deciding to play for next year (or to avoid injury, or to rest starters for tomorrow, or whatever) once the odds of failure are 95%. Sometimes you have to take the long view when defining victory.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 25, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
I don't disagree
I just think 5% is too early to throw in the towel.
It’s like being down 3-0 in the World Series…no time to quit
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Or when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 27, 2011 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
It depends...
On the risk/reward. If I have a 5% chance of winning a million dollars, and a 95% of nothing happening, then what’s the risk? None. Why not show up?
However, the Giants felt that playing the young guys benefited them more going forward than playing the vets. And let’s be honest, it’s not like the vets were lighting it up. I’d much rather give the young guys some AB’s at the very end of the season than give them to vets in a long-shot to make the playoffs.
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by danieljgrant on Dec 24, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
I think that late in the season, they'd given up on the vets
Let Miggy and Rowand go, sat Huff more, sat Torres more.
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On September 19th, when their playoffs odd peaked again, they were 3.5 games back of the Braves and 1 game back of the Cardinals. So with 9 games to play, they had to jump two teams, won of which had a 3.5 game lead. That is a pretty insurmountable lead.
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Yup, those Braves had a pretty insurmountable lead
hmmm.
by MightySlacker on Dec 23, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
2.5 GB != 3.5 GB. And, the Cardinals had to only pass one team. We had to pass TWO.
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But
to say that it was far from “garbage time”
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Dude. Their average playoff chance even during that hot streak was about 3%. That’s like the definition of garbage time.
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I doubt your definition coincides with most peoples'
“Garbage time” to me means when games don’t matter anymore. If you and I are on the same team and we’re down to a 5% chance of making the post-season, are you really going to stand up in front of the team and say “Fuck it guys, this is garbage time now.”
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No, of course not. But that doesn’t mean that it still isn’t garbage time.
I’m struggling to come up with a good in-game football analogy, which I feel might resonate with people better, but I imagine it’s basically the equivalent of letting the backup QB lead the final drive when your team is down by 21 with 2 minutes to go. Could he still pull it off the upset? Sure. Does that mean that it’s not garbage time? Nope (sorry for the double negative), it’s still over.
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The odds of coming back from 21 down with two minutes...
…are far, far longer than 5%
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Are they? 14 down then? I was hesitant to put an exact number on it, because I completely admit that I’m less familiar with football, and I didn’t want the exact number to be nitpicked.
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OK, 14 then
That’s not “garbage time”. If the game is important and a coach pulled the QB down 14 with two minutes to play, it would be the end of him.
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Again, this is completely ignoring the fact that even with the 8 win game streak they peaked at about 5%. The rest of that month, they were way lower than that. They basically had to win every single game at that point.
Perhaps we just have different definitions of garbage time, but if you have to do everything perfectly and get a lot of help in the process, that’d qualify for me. Maybe not for you, and that’s totally fine.
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How about a different definition?
What about “no team has ever come back from this far behind”?
By that definition, I think the Giants were still within that window as teams had previously come back from more daunting odds.
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LOL U
How did that other team do? Anyone pass them?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 23, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Your will be done.
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by speckops on Dec 23, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
“Your will be done” just sounds wrong.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
It was pretty close to garbage time
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
No
The season ended 1 day after Beltran arrived and Cinci blew us out of the water. August was a disaster, and everything afterwards was just a dark shot in hell.
Blerg
by Myemail21479 on Dec 23, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
I don't know
I like having decent OF options. Huff and Belt in LF is more patchwork to force more hitters with upside in the lineup.
I would like to see the 25 man, maybe Ross could be got for 2 mil and slipped in there too. The Giants website show 4 OF, 1 is Christian.
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by Myemail21479 on Dec 23, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
“He may play for the right team,” his agent, Scott Boras, said at the winter meetings. “He may not play.”
Translation: Don’t bother calling unless you’re a contending team seeking a lefthanded-hitting part-time outfielder and you’re a short flight from Drew’s South Georgia home.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 23, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
Right on
But our team is lefty heavy, and Ross can play CF.
Blerg
by Myemail21479 on Dec 23, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
Ross would be nice
That would give the team 4 OF’s, plus Huff/Belt
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
I'm fine with Ross.
Hopefully he can settle down to a 1 year deal for pennies. If not, I guess there’s always Andruw Jones.
I'd be fine with Cody on the cheap.
The Giants only have 3 OF right now. Huff & Belt don’t count.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
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Over
I feel like I should be more optimistic re: Belt
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Wayyyyyyyyyyy Under
He’ll get three or four ABs in one game, go hitless, and get sent back to Fresno.
I was all LOL until I saw “Fresno” and then I was all LOL.
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by Cody_ransom on Dec 23, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
We could be looking at another Posey/Molina thing
where Sabes will have to get rid of Huff before Belt gets to play. But I’m thinking Belt will play a lot more this year, doubters be damned!
There is one thing I’m happy about for 2012: Huff & Freddy are the only creaky vets left for Bochy to play with. Everyone else is in their 20s. It is kind of refreshing.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
He’ll get rid of Huff to make way for Pill.
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Burriss will also get some time there.
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This is so incredibly insane.
It’s one thing to have him on the roster and it’s another to play him at 1B instead of Belt.
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by Cody_ransom on Dec 23, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
The thing I take a bit of solace in is that Aubrey Huff, coming off of last season, considering the tittering about his conditioning, at the end of his contract, is exactly the kind of player that Brian Sabean will cast off by June without a second thought if it turns out he sucks again.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Exactly
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That is my thinking
But who knows
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by Myemail21479 on Dec 23, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Let's not forget they actually DFAd Rowand and Tejada last year.
And they even threatened Panda with Fresno if he didn’t shape up. I think they’re serious about Huff having to produce. I think it’s why Pill is still in the mix.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Sabean has a long history of simply discarding players at the end of both their contracts and their usefulness. Aurilia. Roberts. Tejada. Rowand. Molina. And those are just the ones who come to mind first.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
So watch out, Barry Zito.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
He so enjoys putting them down that he tries to collect them all just so he can have first dibs.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Durham, Morris,
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Right
So why is everyone so LOL Belt all the time around here? I get that we all love the chasm, but when it’s not likely to even be true, it’s just wallowing for the sake of wallowing.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Durham was traded
And he was having a solid season before then.
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Chris Ray!
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
but he was awful the season before.
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And he was pretty good the season before that
And pretty much every season before that. What’s your point?
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that Sabean traded him away
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Trading him away =/= “discarding players at the end of both their contracts and their usefulness”
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Wasn’t Woody kind of dumped too in the middle of the season?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
His final appearance in 2005 was at the end of July.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
He kind of needed to go by then but it was still a shock considering his popularity and how much he meant to the team. Slightly on the classless side of things
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
Brian Sabean and classless are two things I am shocked to see in the same sentence.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
Orlando Cabrera…. OH WAIT
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by calgiants86 on Dec 23, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
Cabrera, I think, was kind of obviously a horse of a different color there.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
I can’t wait until we re-sign him.
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by calgiants86 on Dec 23, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Of course, Sabean has an equally long history of having players who fit that mold.
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Certainly.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, well
there is that. But other than Huff & Freddy (well, and Zito, of course), it’s not the case this year. That was my original point. Can we count this as progress?
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
I do
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How could I forget?
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
One of my all time favorites.
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by Cody_ransom on Dec 23, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
Well, Pagan is 30 I think
But he’s actually the best option in CF now, so it’s good that he’ll play every day.
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
LOLINEUP
CF Pagan
2B Burriss
3B Sandoval
C Posey
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1B Pill
LF Huff
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For all the Pill hate
I prefer him as the RH PH over Rowand.
I find it unlikely he is going to push Belt out, LHP might see more Posey at 1B than Pill. Of course I have more faith than most Belt will be treated right, going forward.
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by Myemail21479 on Dec 23, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
I hope nobody hates Pill
I just hope he doesn’t start over Belt.
It wouldn’t surprise me if he were a useful bat off the bench/emergency 2B.
Mark DeRosa , he had his moments.
There still is a chance Huff could have a comeback year
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How far of a comeback?
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I’ll take it!
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This is kind of great
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by calgiants86 on Dec 23, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
“We’ll see you tomorrow night.”
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 23, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
So much of game 6
Reminded me of game 6, 2002
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by Myemail21479 on Dec 23, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
WHY???
Why is KNBR talking about the A’s trading Suzuki?
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Why in crap would they trade Suzuki? I mean, he’d probably pull down quite a haul….
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that’s why I was shocked, I hadn’t heard anything about it up until I walked into the bedroom just now and heard Kreuger going on and on about the A’s holding FanFest at the airport so the fans can wave good bye to all their players. Then he rattled off the ones who have already been traded and added Suzuki’s name.
Maybe it was hyperbole?
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I’m surprised the A’s haven’t done a full garage sell yet and just put all their players out on the street and see who comes by and buys them.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
LOL
Suzuki? Really? Maybe for a non-prospect.
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by doubleteapot on Dec 23, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
The A's are doing a total rebuild.
Suzuki’s literally one of, like, 3 valuable players they have who aren’t cost-controlled.
The others are Balfour and Bailey. Fuentes isn’t cost-controlled but he sucks.
Beane’s going whole hog, it seems.
I mean...the A's have two players above 6 years' service time.
Fuentes at $5 million. Then Balfour at $4 mil.
Suzuki and Braden are the only other guys left to trade.
I think Buster Olney tweeted this morning about them “maybe” trading Suzuki because they’re totally rebuilding and he would be in high demand. It was pretty clear Olney was just throwing out the possibility. Leave it to KNBR to talk about it like it was a fact.
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well now… to be fair I didn’t hear the whole bit. I was running the vacuum cleaner and sorting laundry and waiting for the gardeners to move their damn truck, so I could have missed a “Can you imagine?” or something to set the bit up as a supposition.
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I kind of want to see them trade Fuentes, Balfour, Suzuki, and Bailey, all for prospects, just because what in all hell.
Rainier Day Fund
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
The A’s will be moving to Tacoma if they can’t get San Jose.
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Fucking young whippersnapper, beating me to the punchline.
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With all the rain they’re planning for, they should just move to Forks.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
I hear the vampires up there are really, really good at baseball.
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Oh, hey, unintentional tie-in. Nice how that worked out.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
That scene ranks somewhere 12 on a 1-10 scale of unintentional comedy. Not that I’ve ever seen the movie ever
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The line, “Hold on tight, Spider Monkey” ranks as the single worst piece of writing I think I have ever seen in film.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
I was in Bangladesh a couple years ago and Twilight was on TV. My cousin wanted to watch it to see how bad it was. I couldn’t sit and watch it for more than a minute. It was Star Wars Holiday Special bad.
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Everything about that movie is terrible, except, oddly enough, Bella’s dad. He’s an actual, interesting, sympathetic character.
That’s the only one I’ve seen, and that aided by rifftrax. From the looks of it, they only get worse.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
That's the only scene I've ever seen.
And yeah, wow it’s bad.
Also, if both pitcher and batter both have super-vampire baseball powers, how come the pitcher can’t get a single pitch past the hitters?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 23, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
BECAUSE SHE PLAYS BALL LIKE A GIRL
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
Tacoma!
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Aroma!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
DIPLOMA SNIFFER
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I guess Buster Olney published an article 4 hours ago speculating that the A’s may look to move Suzuki next, and then it took off.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Suzuki for Dwight Howard
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by calgiants86 on Dec 23, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
I like the idea of...
Belt plays left this year while Huff plays 1B and then next year when Huff is gone Belt moves to 1B. Bochy? You reading this? Trust me, it’ll work!
Matt Cain, Tim Lincecum, and Madison Bumgarner,
L2WIN.
FFFFFFFfff...
OT: Sex in the Campaign Room
At least Stephen Colbert is trying to sign a Matt Moore-type deal.
Comedy Central host Stephen Colbert offered to pay $400,000 to buy the naming rights to South Carolina’s upcoming Republican presidential primary—and contrary to earlier reports, he says the state GOP almost took him up on his offer.
…
The party did submit Colbert’s proposed referendum to the state Election Commission, which polled voters on whether “corporations are people” or “only people are people.” But the question was blocked, after a state Supreme Court decision last month removed all non-binding referendum from the primary ballot.
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But Matt Moore, executive director of the South Carolina Republican Party, disputes Colbert’s account, telling Yahoo News that nothing was agreed to.
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The back and forth between the state GOP and Colbert has irked key South Carolina Republicans, who say party officials came close to embarrassing the state and diminishing South Carolina’s “first in the South” primary.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 23, 2011 11:31 AM PST reply actions
Wow lots of guys are named Matt Moore
I never thought this was a common name
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 23, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
They’re all actually the same guy.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
He's a blur
Check him for PEDs
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
What about LEDs?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Yeah those, too.
They would help him work at night.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
LSDs?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Nobody hasn't never said
that the one and only Matt Moore isn’t non-heroic in his non-restraint with all manners of pharmaceuticals. After all, he earned the name “Moore”.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
SET's ?
/ tax joke
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
State Excise Tax
sorry..working on tax reports today..Happy Holidays ?
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
South Carolina Republican Primary presented by Stephen Colbert?
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Psssh. Like Colbert would submit to second billing.
“We hammered out a contract over barbecue. Colbert Super PAC would pay up to $400,000 directly to the state and counties to defray the cost of the election,” Colbert writes. “In return, the primary’s official name would be ‘The Colbert Super PAC South Carolina Republican Primary.’ This name would appear on all press releases, official notices and signage, including the debates. We would finally raise democracy to the same level as the Tostitos™ Fiesta Bowl and Kardashian™ weddings.”
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 23, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Surely some state will be willing to do this, yes?
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
I certainly hope so.
But South Carolina is Colbert’s home state, so he may not offer it to anyone else.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 23, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
It's already been done for a bowl game
“The Beef ‘O’ Brady’s Bowl” – the first football game sponsored by a porn star.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
LOLOL
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Dec 23, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
heads up
if you’re behind on boardwalk empire, dont read joe bucks tweets….MAJOR plot point that got spoiled for me :(
Yea we DVR'd it
The last episode, my girl was setting up on the couch and I read twitter while waiting to start it, YIKES.
I don’t think anyone should not expect spoilers if they don’t watch any HBO series in real time.
Blerg
by Myemail21479 on Dec 23, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
It was good
I am hoping someone got me Arkham City for Xmas
Blerg
by Myemail21479 on Dec 23, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
The game is pretty and the voice acting is AWESOME. The mood of the game is also extremely effective. The scarecrow battle in the morgue early on may be kind of boring from a gameplay perspective, but everything else about it was so great I didn’t even care. The one thing I really dislike is Harley’s redesign. The camera is a bit disorienting at first, too. Thug battles are kind of mashy, but boss battles take some real skill and attention. I kind of wish that I wasn’t compelled to be in detective mode 100% of the time, either. Not a perfect game, but the stuff they get right they really, really get right, and the stuff they get wrong barely takes away from it.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
I’m probably going to have no choice but to get Arkham City next.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
I started it a few weeks back. Played a few hours and haven’t had a chance to get back to it. It’s good but Asylum is better.
by chilibean_3 on Dec 23, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
AA did a lot of things right
A lot of good moments
A great mood and story telling experience
Average to great gameplay dynamics, bonus for having multiple styles of game play
The detective mode is cool, but I eventually would flip it on for 2 reasons, to find the exit to a room, or to count the bad guys. Sometimes I kept it on to track the armed guards.
Blerg
by Myemail21479 on Dec 23, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
On what system?
Thinking about it for the PS3.
I was going to get Skyrim and the horrible reviews for the PS3 version have scared me off.
I’m playing AA on the PS3. So far, so good. We were thinking about getting Skyrim, but it may just be too much of a timesuck.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
Also, I haven’t even really advanced the plot very much. I’ve been trying to scout out every location and do all of the miscellaneous and faction quests before advancing the main plot too much.
Haha, I've hardly done the main plot at all
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Pardon me if this has been discussed endlessly, but is there any other free agents we can hopelessly dream of or fixate on to keep us from facing the reality of this offseason?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 11:49 AM PST reply actions
Jonah Keri doesn’t understand why the Giants aren’t in on Prince Fielder.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. When I read that I wondered if he actually has heard of the Giants over the past five years.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe after writing that book on the Ray he assumes all teams are competently run.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Which one?
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
Because
We are broke remember?
by CainIsAble on Dec 23, 2011 11:52 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
i think it's time to start fantasizing about trading for Hanley
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Who would we trade? Belt + somebody?
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Dec 23, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
Belt might make too little money for the Marlins
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
Lump Zeets into the trade.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Dec 23, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
I hear Alex Smith is a free agent.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
small hands
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Heart of a lion
Hands of a child…
by CainIsAble on Dec 23, 2011 11:54 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Knbr
Is pissing me off. They seem content with the giants lack of doing anything at all.
by CainIsAble on Dec 23, 2011 12:00 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
To me
This season is reminiscent of the 2010 team. Wondering if pablo will repeat his awesome year. Wondering if huff will be any good. Wondering if some prospect will come up and shred (belt). Etc etc
by CainIsAble on Dec 23, 2011 12:06 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Niners will resign him
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Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 23, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
I thought they were resigned to keeping him this season, what with the lockout and all.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
they’re kind of stuck with him since the team won so much. All that winning might have been a big mistake
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah what’s another decade of losing between friends?
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 23, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
I’ll take winning over not winning.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
I like Larry Krueger in general
but when I heard him say a few days ago something along the lines of, “the 49ers could win a playoff game at Lambeau” I started laughing out loud.
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
“the 49ers could win a playoff game” kind of makes me chuckle
by chilibean_3 on Dec 23, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe he will resign and we can get Rodgers!
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Dec 23, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
OMG!!!
FINISH GARDENING ALREADY!!!!
It’s going to be dark by the time I can get out of here.
They really should come and let us know when they are going to have our cars blocked in.
IF GIVEN A WARNING I WOULD HAVE MOVED MY F’ING CAR!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
usual the gardeners/landscapers are here on Thursdays, for some reason they are here today chopping up trees. They’ve got my car and my neighbor’s car blocked in by their truck and about a ton of branches.
I’m hoping they take off for lunch around noon…. usually I go to the gym/walking in the morning, but silly me today I decided to wait for it to warm up a bit before leaving…and I got trapped.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
hank
http://blog.sfgate.com/giants/2011/12/23/the-winter-of-our-disconnect/
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Sabean always has believed that it makes little sense to have one or two big players if the supporting cast is weak.
So, since the supporting cast is going to be weak, it’s better to not have big players!
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
“We can’t sign good players because we have so many bad players it won’t matter.”
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
I shouldn’t have even added the last three words.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
“and did I mention, we only have $130 million to spend”
GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!
by Cody_ransom on Dec 23, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
better to just have an all around weak offense
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
The Giants have never had any success with one big player carrying the team.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Well
I would say that Bonds would count as two big players and he got a lot of help from Kent.
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This is the ultimate Calbears statement.
1 player = 2 players because I have to disagree.
So awesome.
GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!
by Cody_ransom on Dec 23, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
Don't you ever ask yourself...
“why do I have to be such an a-hole?”
GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!
by Cody_ransom on Dec 23, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
What was that guy’s name again? Borry Bands or something?
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Dec 23, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
Harry Hands
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
Horry Hands
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Dec 23, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
John Dowd
Finally a signature worth having:
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by fierrpawz on Dec 23, 2011 4:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
John Dowd
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
by fierrpawz on Dec 23, 2011 4:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I don’t think this is actually a bad game plan. It’s just making sure that the players you have instead of are good enough for it not to matter and that might (might) not be true of the Giants.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
No. It’s backward, short-sighted logic. It’s a terrible game plan. It’s a game plan that dictates you never make individual improvements because, individually, they don’t improve you enough. It’s a game plan that does not understand the concept of addition.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
It's basically
diversification (safer, less upside) versus going after a couple big investments (bigger risk but bigger rewards).
The logic makes sense. The question is what stocks/investments are you diversifying in.
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It’s arbitrarily distinguishing between improving an individual position a lot and another individual position less. It’s saying that we can’t upgrade one position a lot until we upgrade a few of them by a little first. There’s no reason to think that 1) you can’t do both at the same time, or 2) total improvement is more valuable than distributed improvement.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
two should say “less valuable”
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
Again
it’s about how you commit your money. You may think that Affeldt is not valuable and the Melky is a minor improvement. But the Giants don’t.
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“The Giants think x” is not a defense of logic.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t think he’s defending the Giants, I think he’s just saying the Giants think a certain way and that’s how it is. Which is sort of my point that if you’re going to go no collection of superstars, you better make sure the rest of the lineup is solid because if it’s crappy, you blew it. The Giants don’t seem to be able to put together a solid lineup, especially now, so it’s hard to defend their thinking right now
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
He started from a position that was defending the Giants.
The logic makes sense.
When I questioned the sense of the logic, he said, “That’s not what the Giants think.”
Seems like a straightforward progression to me.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
the logic of having several good players vs one.superstar makes sense.
Whether the Giants have good players is up to debate
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by CalBear949 on Dec 23, 2011 12:24 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
The logic of having the best cumulative lineup makes sense. Whether the parts that add up are well distributed is not significant.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
There is a risk, and mostly one of injury. That’s why I said “not significant” and not “doesn’t matter”.
The Zito thing is a bad example. He was certainly a big contract. But he does not represent an unbalanced distribution of good in the rotation.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
there is more risks involved in investing in a player than simply injury. And risk management is a real thing. A single large contract can wreak havoc on a team’s ability to compete for several years.
I’m not talking about large contracts. I’m talking about total production. If you’re collecting that production on the free agent market, then sure, it’s going to cost you some. But if you’re signing, say, Albert Pujols, the risk is his health. Not getting production out of Barry Zito wasn’t the risk of signing a great player to a lot of money.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
I think maybe I’m not representing my thoughts very clearly.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
but, you have also argued that the distribution of the total production does not matter. When you factor in risk, it does matter.
If your entire offense is based on Pujols and he gets injured, oops, there goes your season.
you have also argued that the distribution of the total production does not matter
I said it was not significant, and specifically already made the distinction between that and “not mattering” – because they are very different things. Distribution is a nice thing to have, but it’s not something that should prevent you from improving your production. “No, this player is too good. Our production distribution will be all wonky” is a terrible argument. The significant thing is total production. Distribution matters in its own small way, but it’s secondary in every sense.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
which is why I think Beltran
went to STL. He doesn’t have carry the offense
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by CalBear949 on Dec 23, 2011 3:17 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
I think Beltran went to St. Louis because they… you know, offered him a contract.
I encourage you to check out Fish Stripes, Catch-28 and my twitter.
This is much funnier than people are giving you credit for.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
I hate to disappoint you, but it’s stuffed.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
I am not sure this quite puts the giants position in the right light.
The giants have built a top tier pitching staff. One that can give up less than 3 runs a game. I think by their actions that this offense is good enough with that. Wins are made by the ratio of runs allowed vs runs scored. They have put all their chips on runs allowed. All of them. I think every one here agrees that a league average offense would be more than enough. Obviously the FO thinks they can split the hairs finer than that. I disagree and think league average should be the goal. I do not think the lineup they have constructed during the off season is that. This is a shame as it wastes, as 2011 made clear, the fine line between adequate and wasting these limited years. 2/24 would have been the right move. Itales me sad that the FO punted on this. Very sad. C
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by fierrpawz on Dec 23, 2011 5:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Matt Cain’s loss in a one hitter agrees with you.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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The giants have built a top tier pitching staff. One that can give up less than 3 runs a game.
No, they can’t do that.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
But it’s one thing to start Burriss because the team just botched everything and another thing to start him because they don’t have any money left to get a SS. And as a fan, I’d much rather see a lineup of hitters who I all believe has a chance to hit the ball as opposed to a lineup of two really good players and a bunch of guy who makes me want to go stand in line for garlic fries.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
I’d like to see a lineup with as much run-scoring potential as possible.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
but how much run scoring will take place if you have two hitters on a team and nobody to get on base in front of them?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
If they get on base a lot, it will help runs score.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
or what if you score lots of runs but then the other team substitutes an all-left-handed lineup in the 7th inning after you take your starting pitcher out. What would you do then?
Or your 3 and 4 hitters bat and you’re now looking at 2-3 innings of everyone else? If you remember late-period Bonds, as soon as his bat was over, everybody stopped paying attention in part because there was nobody else besides him who could hit
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
In 2006, the Giants score 746 runs. In 2007, they scored 683.
The offense has only eclipsed the second number once since Bonds has been gone. They have not scored more than 700 runs in a season since. It totally sucked having Barry Bonds and scoring more runs than we have been able to score since having Barry Bonds.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Good explanation
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Yes but Hank nailed it here:
My thought? I expressed them in October when I suggested the Giants should take a one-time financial hit this year and go after an impact hitter that will fit better financially as the Rowand and Zito contracts come off the books after 2012 and 2013. I also said:
At least for the moment, we’re still a capitalist country. The Giants’ partners have every right to decide how much profit they want to make on their investments and set the player payroll accordingly. But let’s be intellectually honest here. It’s not accurate to say they cannot afford a big-name hitter. They can. It’s just a matter of how much risk they will allow their general manager to take against the potential reward of another parade down Market Street next fall.
Yup
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But I still don't think the Giants would have gotten
Beltran for 2/$26 million.
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Again
we don’t know what we don’t know.
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IGNITE RAGE BUTTON ACTIVATED
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Not at 2/$26 million and certainly not at 2/$30 million.
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My ignition for rage is when Beltran signs elsewhere.
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by CalBear949 on Nov 17, 2011 3:49 PM CST via mobile up actions
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
by speckops on Dec 23, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This.
So much this.
Total a-hole.
GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!
by Cody_ransom on Dec 23, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
And remember...
1 player = 2 Players. Because of contrarian reasons.
GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!
by Cody_ransom on Dec 23, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
If you’re referring to CalBear, I’m going to have to say this is over the line. I may disagree with him 90% of the time, but he’s in no way an asshole. I just happen to think he’s wrong and a bit of a FO apologist.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
A bit?
He makes Goofus seem like DFARowand!
this made laugh
actually I agree with Goofus a lot
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by CalBear949 on Dec 23, 2011 3:24 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Calling CalBear an a-hole is out of line
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
He seems like a nice person to me.
I disagree with him a lot, but he’s always patient and pleasant.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Yep, he never calls anyone names.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
And people really lay into him hard around here.
I really hate that.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
I feel bad sometimes for the whole ‘your mother gives a great blowjob’ thing.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
To be fair, he was being totally political after saying that he wasn’t doing it to be political.
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C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Well, yes, that’s why only sometimes.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe she does though.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Dec 23, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
You shouldn't.
Because she does.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
It definitely makes me uncomfortable. Also, I feel like it makes them worse than they accuse him of being. It’s not even a good way to argue.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
He just has different opinions and people should respect that. He gets treated like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at the UN.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Dec 23, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
IMMADINTHEHEAD
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
One of my favorite SNL skits: Iran So Far.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
Mine too, so hilarious.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Dec 23, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
It's mostly deserved
I can’t recall anyone not looking stuff up like him.
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
This line.
Good to have divergent opinions. Just because you might not agree does not an ahole make. He takes time to explain and argue his position. Even when wrong. I respect that a lot.
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
by fierrpawz on Dec 23, 2011 5:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Yes.
I was the a-hole.
Misdirected rage.
Apologies to Calbears, and everyone else for disrupting things here.
Sincerely.
Merry Christmas, Ralphie.
You can sit down now.
GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!
by Cody_ransom on Dec 23, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
No biggie
thanks for all the kind words! Who knows…I may have some deep resentment against the Giants FO. Happy holidays everyone!
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Dec 23, 2011 12:49 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Wait, are you calling CalBear the a-hole or are you calling yourself the A-hole for thinking that it’s a really cool thing to call somebody you disagree with on a message board?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Nevermind
never scanned down enough to see the rest of it. go back to whatever you’re doing
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
I called him an a-hole
then I called myself an a-hole for calling him an a-hole.
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by Cody_ransom on Dec 23, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
a-holes for everyone!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
MERRY CRUSTMAS!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Cardinals have a better lineup than Giants.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
I love this because it might be true.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
That was a good story, not the least of which was that he read a lot of fan’s minds. Also because he gave some sort of sign that he thinks the FO isn’t quite on the up and up with their finances.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
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Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 23, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
Forgive me for doing some quick, back-of-the-napkin calculations
According to the Giants, their break-even revenue point with attendance at 3.25 million is $130 million.
I know Schulman is qualifying that sentence with “According to the Giants,” but it still makes me rage almost as much as the Beltran non-signing.
Apparently the Giants say they need to sell 3.25 million tickets at an average of $40/ticket to break even. Now, if you are PURELY talking about “revenue from ticket sales” and absolutely nothing else (merchandise, concessions, parking, TV, radio, etc.), then that statement might be correct if I truly believed the average ticket price was $40, when in fact it’s probably $5 or $10 higher. Maybe more. But you add in all the incidental revenue that I just left out, and I call Bullshit on the Giants self-reported break-even point.
If they don’t want to spend the money on Beltran, fine. Just tell us so. Tell us they’d rather make a profit. It’s totally their right. Just stop with the crying poor. That’s what I find truly offensive.
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
Goofus and others have made a decent point that the non-25 man roster (the stadium doesn’t staff itself) could be a decently large expense. It’s something worth keeping in mind.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Well also
people know what they spent for tickets and concessions, and think the team got all of that money. Lots of other people take a cut, especially if you buy resold tickets.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
This is also true.
My real issue is that it’s Sabean’s job to work within the constraints of the budget, and I happen to think that he severely misallocated funds. After last season, it should’ve been obvious that the offense was the far and away the biggest issue, and I don’t think we’ve made serious improvements to a historically bad lineup.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
As someone who gives the FO more of the benefit of the doubt than others, I can understand the RDF thing but I think they blew it this year because they went cautious when they should have gone for it. Another playoff run and possible series would have done more for the RDF than hoarding money ever will.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
I doubt the Giants pay the vendors but I could be totally wrong.
My guess would be that they are part of the contract with whomever does the food services, which could possibly be the Giants. Not sure how they have it set up.
GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!
the big constraints are the stadium debt plan (I think it’s $25 million a year) and revenue sharing.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
revenue sharing is partially the fault of Sabean for signing so many awful contracts
GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!
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sfgiants.com:
Centerplate manages concession and merchandise stands and provides special catering services for AT&T Park.
The company now known as Centerplate was officially founded in 1995 when a group of top-level managers of Volume Services, Inc. engineered a friendly buyout of the firm from its parent company.
March 8, 1993
Volume Services has bought out the remaining two years of the Harry M. Stevens food, beverage and novelty contract at Candlestick Park, San Francisco, and intends to plow $2 million into improvements before the April baseball opener.
Larry Hatch, Volume president, confirmed that on Feb. 27 the food company signed a contract, pending San Francisco Recreation & Parks Department approval, to provide concessions for San Francisco Giants baseball for “a minimum of five years.” Volume will pay the Giants a percentage. It must now negotiate with the San Francisco 49ers of the National Football League and with the city for other events.
Baseball alone would bring in approximately $12 million in total…
June 30, 1997
Volume Services signed a 20-plus-year contract to continue providing foodservice, which will include concessions, merchandise and suite catering, for the San Francisco Giants at Pacific Bell Park, scheduled to open for the 2000 season.
Larry Hatch, Volume: Services’ president, made the announcement at the Assn. of Luxury Suite Directors conference here The concessionaire will also partner with Real Restaurants, which operates several high-end restaurants in the San Francisco, South Bay and Napa Valley areas, on an upscale dining facility at the ballpark.
“Our commitment is in excess of $23 million,” Hatch said.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 24, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
Let's acknowledge that's true
They could have used Hembree and Runzler instead of Affeldt and
The Giants have just emailed me to inform me that the holiday ticket sale ends tomorrow. Should I tell them it’s not in my RDF?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Should ask them first what the weather’s like
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
This would amuse me greatly.
GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!
by Cody_ransom on Dec 23, 2011 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
i must have missed it
but what is the origin of the rainy day fund term? Did sabean say it at some point? i know everyone uses it but Ive been gone awhile
It was mentioned in print. Can’t remember where, probably by Baggs in regard to the ownership groups wishes for the money that was spent on Beltran and technology. It was said to be a big part of why the parties parted ways. Neukom liked improving the assets and the rest of the owners essentially wanted more money in their pockets.
GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!
by Cody_ransom on Dec 23, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
It’s due to the idea that the FO is terrified of losing money and not being able to pay off stadium debts (which was how Magowan explained it). RDF is for that time when only 1.5 million show up every year and they have no money to afford anything (the irony of it all, of course, doesn’t seem to occur to the FO at all)
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Rainy Day Fund Chronicles:
Mark Purdy 09/15/2011:
Neukom, it is said, believed that this was his money to spend as he saw fit — and he did so, to increase payroll and buy new technology for the baseball department, among other expenditures. Instead, the executive committee allegedly wanted the money to be put in a “rainy day fund” for use in leaner times. The committee also believed that Neukom needed the committee’s authorization before making such major financial decisions.
September 15th, 2011:
Q: Was the disagreement over the rainy-day fund the precipitating event?
-NEUKOM: The Giants are a partnership. We have substantial reserves. I won’t mention the amount, but they’re very substantial reserves. So in any normal business sense of the word ‘rainy-day fund,’ we have a rainy-day fund, and it’s more than adequate.
Tim Kawakami on September 15th, 2011:
-Q: How could you use the rain-day fund? Could you use it to pay into a Lincecum contract? What’s the process to convince ownership to tap into it?
-BAER: Are you referencing what Bill called a reserve fund? Let’s call it a reserve fund.
I think that reserve funds aren’t typically used to address player contracts. Reserve funds are to address some major event that happens unexpectedly.
-Q: Like what?
-BAER: A baseball strike. An earthquake. Come up with your calamity.
Look, we learned the hard way. From ’93 through ’99, before we got to this park, this franchise lost a lot of money. The investors went into their pockets to write checks to fund it.
I think that we have the full ability to handle player transactions with the annual resources of revenues. Ticket sales, sponsorship sales, television contracts etc. So I don’t see this as let’s get this rainy-day fund to pay somebody an extra x-million.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 23, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Oops, missed a part of the first one:
Mark Purdy 09/15/2011:
Neukom’s falling-out with the Executive Committee, the baseball sources said, began over how to spend the additional millions of dollars that flowed into team coffers after the World Series championship. For example, one source says that since October, the Giants’ merchandising revenue alone has increased by $1.5 million to $2 million per month over previous years. Ticket sales also boomed. The Giants have effectively sold out every game this season.
Neukom, it is said, believed that this was his money to spend as he saw fit — and he did so, increasing payroll and buying new technology for the baseball department, among other expenditures. Instead, the Executive Committee wanted the money to be put in a “rainy-day fund” for use in leaner times.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 23, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
Look, we learned the hard way. From ’93 through ’99, before we got to this park, this franchise lost a lot of money. The investors went into their pockets to write checks to fund it.
I think that we have the full ability to handle player transactions with the annual resources of revenues. Ticket sales, sponsorship sales, television contracts etc. So I don’t see this as let’s get this rainy-day fund to pay somebody an extra x-million.
THEN WHY DID YOU RE-SIGN BRIAN SABEAN?
GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!
WOW!
I totally missed that 2nd quote when it happened. That sure is telling. So there is a more than adequate rainy day fund already. My rage just quadrupled.
I love this
The beauty is that the creation of the RDF instantiates the necessity of it.
My brother has decided to try to kill everyone in Solitude.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Too bad some of them can’t be killed. :(
by chilibean_3 on Dec 23, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
yeah he's killed the jarl like 10 times
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I read that as Seattle and was a little shocked
The first six innings are overrated.
I wanted to do that once
but then I took an arrow to the knee.
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved solar powered broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Dec 23, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
The things that annoy me is when I fast travel somewhere and there is a random dragon encounter, and someone I was planning to interact with decides to go all hero and gets himself killed. I’ve lost some vendors that way.
Also, decided to do the marriage thing and the wife disappears directly afterward. I think she tried to walk to our home city and got killed.
Not if everything goes right! Hope like hell!
by chilibean_3 on Dec 23, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
I’m mentally moving the exclamation to the end of the sentence.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, it is not.
We still have Tim & Matt & Panda & BUSTER & Madbum. I’ll never get bored when all of those guys are on the team.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Just wait for the LOLineups!
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Dec 23, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
I’m as bummed as everyone about the off season but I still think the season’s going to be a lot better than most people are thinking.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Let’s talk about something unrelated to baseball.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Aside from that short Twilight subthread and a bit of football talk, I don’t think we’ve done that today.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
What’s for lunch?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
looks like leaving early is what’s for lunch.
by chilibean_3 on Dec 23, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Was it a huge burrito or something?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
“What the hell is this? You know I don’t eat burritos! I fucking hate burritos! How dare you!”
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I finally went to Eddie’s Cafe. Dinky little diner near my office. Cheap, quick, not too bad.
And on my way back to work, I saw that Little Star now opens at 11am Fri-Sun. I’ma get fat(ter).
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 23, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
YOU’RE weird.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 23, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
Are you back in the Bay Area right now?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
My younger idiot brother got into a bunch of trouble. I had to cut short my vacation and fly standby (which took me on a redonkulus route), get him a lawyer etc etc etc. Hopefully I can get on some kind of flight later today and rejoin the rest of my family on vacation.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Sorry to hear that. Hopefully everything works out ok!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Yeah, hopefully for his sake. He really is the black sheep of the family but he is trying to get his life back on track and that’s why I’m keen on helping him. Thanks for the good wishes :)
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
This is new. Asking the McCoven to go off topic?
Hey, speaking of McCoven, GO VOTE FOR THE MCCOVEN AWARDS! Voting for some of them closes today at 5 p.m.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
Thanks for running these, by the way. You’re awesome.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Thanks. :)
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
I brought up my video gaming.
I just finished reading Wonderstruck, for what it’s worth. Though it’s not the triumph of form that The Invention of Hugo Cabret was, it’s a really good story with some pretty sweet art.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
Now, I started reading The Girl Who Fell from the Sky. Then, I’ll read all of The Things They Carried for the first time.
I’m also in a book club that’s reading The Hunger Games now. The first meeting will be on the first five chapters, which were basically just fine.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve been reading The Salt Roads by Nalo Hopkinson. One of the books I bought when I was in Trinidad. It’s really good.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
I read Fledgling by Octavia Butler a few weeks back. An interesting read, if the execution was a bit stiff and sometimes oddly formulaic. I’m looking forward to reading Kindred a few books down the road, at least. Not sure why I didn’t start with that one, except, hey, vampires.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve never read Fledgling, so I can’t comment there. I do know some people really dislike Butler as a stylist, but I’ve never had a problem there.
Other stuff I hope to get to before the spring semester starts (which is in like a week and a half, geez):
Edwidge Danticat, Create Dangerously
Earl Lovelace, Is Just a Movie (another one I got in Trinidad; apparently it doesn’t come out in the States until April)
Ursula K. LeGuin, Powers
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
Barf to The Hunger Games.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
It Is What You Think It Is.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
I’d just save yourself the effort and watch Battle Royale or read the Long Walk instead.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I did those already! The last guy I talked about Hunger games to said it was better than B.R., which after looking at a synopsis I was not entirely convinced.
If you like YA poppery, go for it.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve read the short story a few times, which on its own is a triumph of literature. I’m really looking forward to reading the whole thing.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
It was assigned reading the summer before last; I was going to blow through it, but then I found myself really liking it.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
I hear In the Lake of the Woods is also quite good.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I’ve liked everything he’s done, but Nuclear Age was probably the weakest.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Just finished the Collected Writing of Abraham Lincoln and The Last Boy (Mickey Mantle biography — man was that guy fucked up). Am about halfway through Dreams from My Father and Life of Pi (for some reason took a really long time to get around to this one).
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Life of Pi has been sitting on my shelf, unread, for years. The longer it goes unread, the less I seem to want to read it.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
One of those ‘It is what it is’ sort of books.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
His background story is sorta boring, but I love that book. Probably top 3 favorites.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 23, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
What the hell do they have left to trade?
Worley, Brown, Galvis?
by MightySlacker on Dec 23, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
WTF Mets?
And WTF Phillies? Why trade to somebody in your own division? And isn’t the Phillies payroll this year around $300 million dollars?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
This would also mean they’d be paying Polanco $7.25 million to be a utility infielder in 2012.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
Seriously?????
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
stupid comments on parade at Schulman's non-Beltran-signing-apologist post
I agree. Beltran is way past his prime. And he will undoubtedly get hurt again. It could be any time, and worst when we are fighting for the division. He probably hits 18 hr’s again. 13 mil for that?
The Giants are younger, faster in the outfield, with great defensive improvement. That is huge in a pitchers park. Cabrera is a stud. I think that was a master stoke of a pickup.
Now trade Volgesong and Belt for Hanley Ramirez and the Giants are set.
Henry, just be honest and say that Beltran is not that good anymore. He didn’t help last year, so why would he make a difference this year?
It would have been nice to see Beltran in the line up, but not at that price and, more importantly — years. Two years may not seem like much, but look at what a burden Huff has become to the payroll and the development of Belt and Pill.
I was at the game last August when Beltran got hurt. He injured himself swing a bat. It was then that I hoped the Giants would sign him for maybe one year and less than $10 million. I wouldn’t want to give $13 million for two years to someone who has a history of major injuries the past three years and is so fragile he gets hurt swinging a bat.
The Giants just have to somehow survive the rest of the Zito contract. And I don’t blame Zito for that. He didn’t force them to give him that contract.
That was at Peter Magawon’s insistence. Maybe Magawon can do the honorable thing and admit he messed up and put the franchise in a severe and long-term bind, and then payoff the rest of Zito’s contract with his own money. I’m sure he can afford it.
Compare stats at the end of the season.
I think Nate will out perform Carlos.
Games played, stolen bases, fielding, and batting average!!!
Beltran, do me a favor and when you play against the Gs, don’t get all uppity and in our face cuz we “dumped” you and get motivated and then hit a bunch of game winners to “show us”.
You never meant anything to us. All your hits were with the bases empty.
All of your RBIs were after the game was decided.
Your “defense” was embarrassing.
And, when we needed you most, you were on the bench nursing your hurt wrist.
The least you can do when you play the Gs is drop a few fly balls and strike out a few times with the bases loaded, just like old times.
Thx.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
Yikes
That bitterness is unbecoming of the holiday weekend :(
by MightySlacker on Dec 23, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
The Giants just have to somehow survive the rest of the Zito contract. And I don’t blame Zito for that. He didn’t force them to give him that contract.
I agree w/ this one.
Over
by cybermaldonado on Dec 23, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
He still hasn’t worked hard enough in maintaining his focus. Once he’s gotten that down….watch out!
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
Let’s hope Mrs. Zito keeps him on a short leash.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
HAWT!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
And it’s Bochy and Sabean’s fault that he’s going to be back in our rotation again in 2012. Blame for everyone!
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
that was in there more for the notion of 2 years being too much for Beltran
and the notion of harm being done to Pill’s development.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
Same thing I said a couple years ago about Posey
The guy needs to play because he is the Giants only hope. So what if he ends up stinking? It’s not going to make the offense any worse than it already will be. And maybe he will turn out to be good. Who Knows?
(thanks to goodness slumping ticket sales force Sabean play Posey).
It’s like playing an old Winn over Nate all over again. We THINK Nate won’t be that good. Whereas we KNOW Winn won’t be any good. Easy decision… no?
Over
OT Beer
Yay, Southern Pacific Brewing is opening!
http://uptownalmanac.com/2011/12/new-mission-brewery-southern-pacific-brewing-opening-their-doors-nye
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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I read this as OT Baer. Time for me to log off and walk away. Going to see Mission Impossible: Random Title Extension.
saw it last night
very entertaining, action all the way, even though tom cruise never seems to get a scratch on him no matter how many times he slams his face into a building or car…
Dude’s can survive F16 crashes. Buildings are nothing to his face.
Over
by cybermaldonado on Dec 23, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
I read that wrong
thought it said Mission Impossible: Random Tittie Extension.
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved solar powered broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Dec 23, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
Have you tried any beer from Heretic Brewing Company?
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
I have not.
Might have to do that next time I see my friends in Concord.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 23, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
OMG you guys!
CJ Wilson just responded to shanghaijim on Twitter.
Team Badonkadonk for Life!
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
Huzzah!
Might have to join twitter just to see what that guy is up to.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Rather Have Cody over Ludwick
Much rather have Ross than Ludwick… Since Cody lowered his demands, maybe he’d return on the cheap. An ‘08/’09 Cody was an above average hitter with power. He was never healthy until late last year and tore it up in September… I say give him 1 year/$5M and let him compete with Nate for PT in right.
Giants should be worried about Freddy Sanchez too. Get Wilson Betemit as utility guy/Freddy’s insurance. When he says he hopes he’ll be ready by opening day, that’s not a great confidence builder. Even if he does start the year, you know he’s destined for 2-3 DL trips.
http://giantsbaseballblog.blogspot.com/
Yeah, I still think Cody has a spot on this team.
And, oh yeah, he’s much better than Ludwick.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 23, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
Wow. If not for her voice, I would not have realized that was Amanda Bearse.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
Man, Fright Night 2011 was so much better. The high school douchebaggery at the beginning was obnoxious, but they dispensed with that quickly enough. And, hey, I learned that Marti Noxon is both still working and still making references to Buffy.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 6:03 PM PST up reply actions
She’s writing for Glee now. I know she gets a lot of crap but she went from Buffy to Mad Men to writing a movie to writing for a TV show about trying to make it to Sectionals and that’s gotta hurt
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
Are they still using that same plot?
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Plot for which show? Buffy dies again? Don Draper starts drinking again? Or the Glee gang have to make it to Sectionals plot? Glee’s story arch is always the group trying to make it to regionals so they can get to sectionals and then nationals which they mainly accomplish by not going to classes to do glee stuff but not actually practice for glee stuff. It’s pretty much like how Community said it was.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 24, 2011 12:29 AM PST up reply actions
So semis, then semiregionals, then regional semis, then national lower-zone semis?
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
And then breakfast, second breakfast, elevenses, luncheon, afternoon tea, dinner, and supper.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 24, 2011 7:06 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, that’s pretty much it in a nutshell
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 24, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
Well, she took a bunch of stuff that was annoying and didn’t make sense in Fright Night and wrote it in a way that was not annoying and made complete sense in the remake, so she gets a few points.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 24, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
The movie got good reviews and I was happy that Marti was getting good reviews on something considering the beat down she took on Buffy. I mean she wrote for two of the best TV shows ever and is now writing for one of the most crappy and sloppy shows on TV
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 24, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
Of course you'll get over it in 2015
That’s when Beltran will show up on Sabean’s radar.
by Ice Watter In His Veins! on Dec 23, 2011 1:53 PM PST reply actions
Mr. Plinkett tackles the Crystal Skull
i've never seen this movie but i want to watch this review
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I actually liked Crystal Skull, but I do agree with some of his points. Though he adds a weird pedophile thing in addition to the dead wife gag.
Nice. I can’t watch this at work, but will certainly give it a viewing later tonight.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Though I don’t understand what there is to like about Crystal Skull.
“I am pretty handy with a blade.” Oh are you? Are you really? That would have been worth mentioning in the 17th century, Shia, but thanks all the same for chipping in.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
/swing purposefully through the trees, leading his monkey brethren by example
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I simply do not agree with the argument, and it is one that I’ve heard before.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
It’s okay. Better than ToD.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Dec 23, 2011 3:01 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
This is false on special effects alone.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 23, 2011 7:18 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
kinda of lost me with the Mary-Kate and Ashley part.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Someone should tell the Cardinals that middle infielders bat 2nd
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Carlos Beltran will bat second for the Cardinals dlvr.it/11wDMT #mlb #hbt
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
huh
rafaelrojasc Rafael Rojas C
former Rockie Yorvit Torrealba just punched an umpire at VZ league because of not agreeing with a call. Lovely.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 23, 2011 2:18 PM PST reply actions
I'd still take him over Pierzynski
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Quiet around these parts today
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
lol
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Dec 23, 2011 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
Hahah didn't see this
BMcCarthy32 Brandon McCarthy
@
@JarrodBParker Hi Jarrod! FYI in this org. we play FIFA. Only @BrettAnderson49 plays NHL but he’s weird so don’t listen to anything he says
BMcCarthy32 Brandon McCarthy
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@JarrodBParker Also, any chance you’re like a HUGE Star Wars fan? Me and @BrettAnderson49 have way too much good material to just throw away
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 23, 2011 4:00 PM PST reply actions
Billy Beane is tearing nerd families apart
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Dec 23, 2011 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
It's that time of Friday
And it’s a holiday weekend. Happy Holidays to everyone! Be safe and take care McCoven.
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Same to you!
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
Happy Holidays!
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 23, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
Eat, Drink, and Stay Out of Trouble
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Merry Christmas!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
@CC_Sabathia
Extending the video contest 1 more day! Create YOUR OWN 30 sec Christmas music video. Signed ball goes to the winner. Gimme your best!
1 minute ago FavoriteRetweetReply
/ looks around for jctGamer…he could totally win this thing.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
wait all the football games are tomorrow?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Yep
Except for Packers vs Bears on Christmas night
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Oh, Alex Smith
Joe Staley got him to sing Rudolph the Rednosed Reindeer, and it is so cute. I can’t find the direct link, but it’s front paged here: http://www.49ers.com/media-gallery/index.html
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
This sucks.
My question is this though: do you think that the front office truly believes that the lineup is going to vastly improve or do you think they’re simply trying run the team like a business where they’re making as much money as they can?
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.
I think they’re pretty clearly in it for profit. I mentioned this already yesterday, but I’m getting cynical enough to believe that the insistence on stuffing away money to sign Lincecum and Cain later at whatever cost is probably 20% because they’re very good players and would help the team win and 80% because if they lost them fans would freak out and it might hurt attendance.
The first six innings are overrated.
probably 20% because they’re very good players and would help the team win and 80% because if they lost them fans would freak out and it might hurt attendance.
And I thought I was cynical. Too bad you are likely correct. Have to protect that investment.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
But what drives me nuts about this argument is that there is no guarantee that Cain and Lincecum will sign here. If the offense continues to struggle to put up 4 runs a game, then what pitcher would want to stay here.
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.
by 1ManWolfPack on Dec 23, 2011 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
if we pay them, they'll stay
The Giants aren’t the A’s or Royals or Rays. They aren’t a team that can’t afford to keep its own homegrown stars around for as long as they want them. They aren’t the yankees or Red Sox in that they’ll go buy team of all stars, but they should be able to keep their own. That means Cain and Timmy. The RDF supposedly exists specifically to keep these players. Hopefully, it actually exists. Use it.
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
Flags Fly Forever
"Orlando before Zod" doesn't have the same nice ring to it.
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 24, 2011 8:02 AM PST up reply actions
I think this portion of Hank's article is a good assessment
Sabean always has believed that it makes little sense to have one or two big players if the supporting cast is weak. He would rather own a room full of toys than one Xbox 360. He was ripped for that philosophy in 1996, ripped for it again after the 2003 season when he didn’t make a move for Vlad Guerrero and is being ripped for it today. But he is not budging.
Critics argue that had the Giants had taken the $5 million they gave Jeremy Affeldt, the $6 million or so they will have to spend on Melky Cabrera and found another million in the sofa cushions, they could have had Beltran back. In other words, it’s better to have a sure thing like Beltran in the middle of the lineup and fill other holes with replacement-value players.
The Giants counterargue that they secured two important pieces for the price of one, that Cabrera is younger than Beltran and a better fielder now, and that Affeldt fills a big need in the middle of a bullpen that they refuse to weaken.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Ugh...
Well stated, but it still angers me. What’s the point of a solid bullpen if you don’t have a lead! Think of a lineup with Fontenot, Crawford, Stewart, and Lincecum. Jesus…
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.
by 1ManWolfPack on Dec 23, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
Oh you'll get this lineup a lot
Especially when Sanchez gets hurt
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
My favorite is people who cite Sanchez going down as a freak accident. He suffered a season ending injury going for a routine groundball, and that’s supposed to make me feel better?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
This is a little cold but we should have a pool to see when Sanchez will get hurt first, what he will hurt and how he will get hurt.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I suggest
Colonel Huffstard, in the intrasquad game, with a routine grounder.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 24, 2011 7:12 AM PST up reply actions
Man, he must have fucking hated those Barry Bonds years.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
.
May 01, 1998|HENRY SCHULMAN
Jeff Kent’s three-year, $18 million contract extension not only provides the second baseman with much-desired job stability, it signals that Giants ownership is prepared to ratchet up spending significantly in a bid to field a competitive team at Pacific Bell Park.
…
Sources close to the negotiations said that team owners needed a lot of convincing before they agreed to commit to Kent through 2001. But Larry Baer, the Giants’ executive vice president and a key liaison between the front office and the ownership group, said Sabean stated a convincing case.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 24, 2011 1:21 AM PST up reply actions
I think both of those things are likely true.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 6:10 PM PST up reply actions
I seriously think they want to win and seriously want the organization to do as best as they can. I also seriously think that they’d like to do it in a budget and are okay with hurting their chances to win if it means not losing or not tearing into the RDF or what have you. It’s been this way since ’03 or ’04 too.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
Winning Baseball = More Income...
I hope the ownership group understands this. And that sports in NOT a normal business. The better the team plays, the more money they will make. Yes, the attendance numbers were high even through the lean years (2005-2008), but it was plain to see on tv that not all those who bought tickets actually WENT to the game. That means no money from parking/concessions/merchandise/etc. The product on the field didn’t draw people in.
But at the same time, the ownership group can’t just throw cash around like it’s Monopoly money either. I understand they want to sign Tim and Matt to long-term contracts. But what is the team doing to convince them to stay? “Hey guys, listen, here’s a TON of money. What? The offence? Pssh. Don’t worry about it. It’ll all work out. Remember 2010? Wasn’t that great!”
What the FO should be thinking:
Winning Baseball -—————→ More Money
More Money -————————> Improved Offense
Improved Offense -—————→ Keeping Timmy and Matt
Keeping Timmy and Matt -——> Winning Baseball
What the FO is actually doing:
1. The Giants won the World Series! OMG!
2. ????
3. Profit!
Watching the Giants play baseball is like buying tickets 162 times a year to have Mike Tyson pretend your testicles are a speed bag.
by danieljgrant on Dec 24, 2011 6:35 AM PST up reply actions
There’s a line that has to be drawn, though. If you just go for it and spend, spend, spend, you could put your team so deep in the hole you might not recover for awhile. The Phillies and Marlins could be in deep crap because of all their signings, for instance, or there’s always the owner of the ‘97 Marlins who went overboard on signings and then realized afterwards he couldn’t afford it so blew the team up (granted, he was also a major dick). The big question is just how much risk do the Giants FO wants to take and it’s apparent they’re not really into taking any sort of risk.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 24, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
All business' involve risk...
The best companies put out of a successful product, then re-invest that profit back into making their product better, and so on. Companies like Apple, Microsoft, etc. If every company sat on their laurels and didn’t re-invest in their product they’d go the way of the dodo.
Of course, re-investing correctly is a BIG part of that.
*cough*ZitoRowand*cough*
Watching the Giants play baseball is like buying tickets 162 times a year to have Mike Tyson pretend your testicles are a speed bag.
by danieljgrant on Dec 24, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
I’ve spent like the last 3 hours looking for my kets.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 23, 2011 4:56 PM PST reply actions
*keys
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 23, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
They’re probably in your pocket.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
If only. I have looked every-fucking-where
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 23, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
In the Car ? That’s happened to me.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
I dont think so. You cant really lock it from the inside and I needed them to get in the house.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 23, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
update on the keys?
I used to do that all the time, it’s frustrating and ANNOYING now there’s a big ole hook by the front door.
most often:
bathroom counter
in between the seat cushions [couch/chair]
on the kitchen floor, where they dropped cuz my hands were full
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Still lost. Basically given up.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 23, 2011 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
Couch, jacket pocket, pile of clothes, fridge, on the TV, bathroom…
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
Checked em all
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 23, 2011 6:17 PM PST up reply actions
still in the door?
that’s peachy when you do that. Especially when you don’t realize it until the next morning.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
window sills, behind the Kinect, bookshelf, DVD rack, medicine cabinet, door, pantry, closet, stuffed cosily inside a beanie…
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
Have you rooted around your colon a bit?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2011 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
I wasn’t that far gone. I was beginning to suspect my dog though.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 23, 2011 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, that’s too bad. I totally know where your kets are.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
Russia, btw.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2011 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
In Soviet Russia, your keys find you!
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
And you’re always in the last place they look.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 24, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
Yeesh
HeathHembree Heath Hembree
Just witnessed a shooting in westgate mall #notafunfeeling
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 23, 2011 5:25 PM PST reply actions
Is this some other Westgate Mall, or the one here?
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Probably in South Carolina
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 23, 2011 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
I thought this dudes 15 minutes of fame were over already.
http://blog.sfgate.com/stew/2011/12/23/joe-montana-raps-with-ashkon/
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Yeah, he’s lucky to be spending time with The Authentic Giants Fan.
by Hyoton on Dec 23, 2011 6:14 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
lol the cat is snoring.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
huh
didn’t know your cat was Jeff Fassero.
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved solar powered broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Dec 23, 2011 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
Man, this is going to be a long weekend. Oy.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Well I still have all that laundry to do…. we were just able to get a load of what the Mr. really needed for his trip.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I’m watching Fever Pitch, but not the Jimmy Fallon one. The Colin Firth one about soccer based on the Nick Hornby book (I guess he also wrote the screenplay). I <3 Colin Firth.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
I love that last scene when he’s watching soccer with his buddy and almost walks out on the game, but….
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I haven’t seen it in forever, so I don’t remember that part. Stop spoiling it! ;-)
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
watching the Sharks. Crazy game.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I missed the game the other night when they scored 5 in the first.
This is different. Why do they suddenly seem to forget where their brains are for like 5 minutes?
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
I missed that one too! Maybe that’s the trick, we don’t watch, Sharks make big score-score.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
more
moar
mohr!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
That book is so good.
I used to live with someone with OCD. It’s extremely accurate.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
cute:
http://news.yahoo.com/does-norad-track-santa-191108615.html
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Ewwww Byrnes on my radio… turn it off! turn it off!!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Oh now Roethlisberger isn't going to play
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
they’ve been saying that all week. Where you been?
That sucks for fantasy football people….
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
And my new starter because Ben’s down and with money on the line? Alex Smith.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 23, 2011 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
well they’re just playing Sea…. hmmm well…. good luck with that.
I’ve always felt fantasy football playoffs should end like 2 weeks before the regular season does. Once you get down to the last 2-3 games there’s too much “We’re resting our starters” type shenanigans to deal with.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Also everybody’s banged up.
In a lot of the fantasy guides, they actually say things like Peyton Manning or Tom Brady might be a risky pick because by the time the playoffs start, they’ll have won so many games the team will sit them more. Most teams still keep pushing but the Colts often sat players down around now to rest them for the playoffs, thus screwing over a whole bunch of GMs
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 24, 2011 12:33 AM PST up reply actions
Should we go tag team that guy that just boarded him?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Man, where’s jctgamer when ya need him? I’m looking for one of those crowd participation videos where the people in the stands all use different cards and their clothing to make images and what not. I don’t know what to call it and that description’s a little too long for a search.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Or, I guess, card stunts.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
hmmm card stunts… interesting…probably get people doing shuffling tricks but it’s worth a try…
oh and YAY TEETH!!!!!!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
well that’s closer…
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
“human lcd” was the one i was looking for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jgkm2pdWgY
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
there better be a penalty on the play
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I should find a place to go for a walk Sunday morning… nobody will be around.
something close but not gross, Folsom lake is close but it’s mostly icky.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Seems to me a lot places near where you live is pretty gross.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
pretty true, that’s why we want to move! The nature center is cool but I do that almost everyday. There’s a few places on the more southerly side of the lake that we’ve never been, so maybe I’ll try those.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Bah!! Drive down Fair Oaks to Rio Americano High School. Park somewhere nearby and then walk along the river either toward the freeway or toward Folsom proper. It’s a nice little jaunt, and none too stressful.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Dear Giants owners,
I get that you can’t go after Pujols or Fielder, but I have an extraordinarily hard time believing
that you can’t find a way to please the fans that buy all those panda hats.
We only want you to field a team that can compete, that should be doable.
You have let us all down.
If I wanted to watch a shitty team play baseball, I would fire up my General Electric™
Model C204 Gravity Distortion Time Displacement Unit and go back to 2006.
Yours Truly,
REDACTED
The McCovey what-cles of Narnia
We’re just going to tell them [we get ticket people calling us to get us to buy season tickets] we’re just going to tell them that OUR rainy day fund won’t allow for it.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I was going to say this if I had canceled my season tickets. I kept them. I was there in the awful 2008 season (2004-2007 at least had Bonds, mostly) so I’ll be there for the awful 2012 season. Plus I like the people around me. We’ll make fun of the team during the game (and maybe I’ll finally meet 1ManWolfPack).
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
It’s silly for us to get season tickets, we can’t figure out why they keep calling! In good years we average a game a month. [good years for us financially that is]
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I have ESPN on as background noise. They showed a promo for Sunday’s NBA TV schedule and who was “singing”? Justin Bieber (with some hip hop artist I didn’t recognize) and it was AWFUL. I think my ears were bleeding. Bieber is tone deaf.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I was going to post that, but I didn’t want to search for it.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
That's Busta Rhymes performing with Bieber.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 24, 2011 7:16 AM PST up reply actions
Man, I’ll be glad when the holidays and these damn lexus commercials are over.
DAMN 1%ers!!! GET OFF MY TV!!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
oh and in a “get off my lawn” moment earlier today…I was at the 2nd hand store and I came across some potholders… that had their original GEMCO price tags on them. Made me dizzy there for a minute.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Government Employee Merchandising Company. I still think of this every time I go to the Target in Redwood city.
Having worked for the man that created that company, the line of succession is as follows: FedMart begat GEMCO, GEMCO begat Price Club, Price Club begat COSTCO.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
There was a brief interregnum of Price Costco, IIRC.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 24, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Yep…One of the guys I worked with at Price Club #1 on Marina Blvd in San Diego, Jim Sinegal was one of the original founders. Price Costco lasted about two years. Price Club heir Robert Price formed, Price CO real estate after the closing and sale of the stores.
History of Costco
Costco was founded in the early eighties by James Sinegal and Jeffrey Brotman. The two owners had both been involved in the retail world, and wanted to try their hand at their own store. Sinegal had worked for other wholesale distribution stores, such as the Price Club or FedMart.
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/people/people.asp?ticker=COST:US
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
We did a Jim Sinegal video at work once… the experience made it clear he cares more about running a retail operation than doing quality video production.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 24, 2011 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
HA !
I can’t even imagine how much money he has now. I ended up with Price Club because my childhood best friend’s Stepdad, John Thompson was one of the original partners in Price Club (CFO). He and Sinegal took original Stock Options as payment the first few years. He retired at the age I am now and did not ever have to work again.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
People rioting over some shoes. These are times I hope the world ends next year.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I would just have a demo crew on by at all times to collapse any stores where rioting occurs.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
On stand by, of course.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I'm thinking more M84 Flash Bangs..
Controls the populace and saves the structure. Merry Christmas
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
So do neutron bombs.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 24, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
One last hope you say?
I’d rather reserve that for the hope of some team taking Zito and his contract, the Giants signing Prince Fielder, and then shipping Belt and Huff for a major league caliber SS and a better outfield(s). Lol hope.
by hankmoody on Dec 24, 2011 1:20 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Neukom
September 17, 2011|Bruce Jenkins
How is this going down with Major League Baseball?
“Bill Neukom did an amazing job, and I know this from the inside. The Giants were not well-regarded by MLB before he took over. Between enabling Barry Bonds (regarding steroids) and other indiscretions – like sidestepping MLB’s ticket stipulations when the All-Star Game was here (2007) – the Giants were known as a team that behaved badly. Neukom changed all that. With his class and professionalism, he brought them right to the top of the class.”
Gwen Knapp 09/16/11
He will forever be known as the steward of San Francisco’s first World Series victory. If the team is lucky, his departure won’t be remembered so vividly.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
Why not?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 24, 2011 9:29 AM PST up reply actions
bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do...
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
Flags Fly Forever
"Orlando before Zod" doesn't have the same nice ring to it.
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 24, 2011 8:04 AM PST up reply actions
DING DONG DING DONG DING
It comes along
Just once a year
On Winter’s wings,
December’s rear
AHHHH-AH
Humbug faces commandeered
And then appears
A perfect Christmastime
/repeat for four consecutive ad slots to ensure maximum earwormitization
BUY TIME WARNER PRODUCTS AND/OR SERVICES, EVERYBODY!
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 24, 2011 7:29 AM PST reply actions
Rage? What rage? It's Christmas Eve!
/pulls shards of glass from Cabbage Patch faces
//sweeps up millions of pieces of Barbie Dream House
///another shot of Jameson
////climbs back in bed
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
by bigboneded on Dec 24, 2011 8:13 AM PST via mobile reply actions
If there is one thing I have faith in, it’s Brian Sabean and any manager under him utilizing the best in-house options.
/puts on Santa hat
/throws self downstairs
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
by ResDog on Dec 24, 2011 8:18 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
I’m not gonna sit through another 162 1-0 games next season.
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
of course you won’t…
some of them will be 2-1, others might be 3-2 or even 2-0 !!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
has this been shared?
“According to sources, even more heartbreaking than the player’s unrealistic statement has been the response from his fans, who not only ignored their gut instinct that the player’s once-promising career was basically over, but actually began speculating how good their team would be when he finally returns.”
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Dec 24, 2011 9:08 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
Shall I take
French or Japanese?
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Dec 24, 2011 9:54 AM PST reply actions
Japanese
it’s harder but way more useful and rare
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved solar powered broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Dec 24, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
I’d say that’s debatable. There are a number of places that you can go with French, but Japan’s pretty much it for Japanese, right?. French also helped me improve my English, and I think that’s unlikely to be true for Japanese.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Yeah
Unless you’re a Japanophile, you’ll get way more use out of French than you would Japanese. In my case, I have no interest in French but like a lot of Japanese things.
I dunno.
This is probably too late to the party and you’ll never read it, but I’d say take Japanese, unless you are planning a move to Canada eh.
The Mr. works in technology and there are many companies with satellite offices or affiliates or partners of some kind in Japan. It impresses the Japanese officials when you can speak a little Japanese.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Both!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Offered on same days I can take with my work schedule.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Dec 24, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
French. It is by far more useful. You can use that in a plethora of countries in Africa as well as France. Also many people in Europe speak French as a secondary language. Another reason it is even more useful is that is one of the Romance Languages (languages that come from latin) and learning it will make learning other Romance languages (Italian, Spanish, Portuguese etc) a lot easier. French also was used until not so long ago as the language of diplomacy.
You should take Japanese if you plan on working in Japan though.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Dec 24, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
You could say it's the lingua franca of a good portion of the world.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 24, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
depends on whether you’d rather date French members of the opposite sex or Japanese
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 24, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
you’ll never get a french girlfriend if you speak japanese
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
by Alex_Lewis on Dec 24, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL RAIDERS
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
LOL RAIDERS
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Hmmm... Giants-Jets. Who to cheer for....
I guess it comes down to whom I as a 49er fan want to see come out of the NFC East. I’m obviously rooting for Dallas to lose to Philly today and the Giants next week, and I assume the Eagles will beat the Redskins next week. So cheering for the Jets today basically means pulling for Philly to win the tiebreakers between three 8-8 teams.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 24, 2011 10:20 AM PST reply actions
Dream Team!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Cheer for the non Rex Ryan Team
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Dec 24, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
no way in hell i want the eagles to be anywhere near the playoffs
they are playing really well as of late
Ummmm
Hardball Talk @HardballTalk 38m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Report: The Athletics could be granted permission to move to San Jose by February dlvr.it/121ZnN #mlb #hbt
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
It’s a little ambiguous, but my reading is that they could get permission by February, not move (since there’s still no stadium).
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
That's part of the plan.
Playing in front of zero seats will give them the opportunity to claim sellouts.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 24, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
How much of a plan is there? I know the Niners’ plans are pretty far along but there’s a big difference in saying “hey, kids, let’s build a stadium!” and actually getting it built. I could also imagine the excitement in the Coliseum this year as A’s fans go watch a team that’s in re-re-rebuilding move in preparation to bolt to a new place.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 24, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Co-owner Lewis Wolff has said that once the team is free to move, the park could open in 30 to 36 months.
LOL to all those A’s fans from Oakland who support this move.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 24, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
There’s no way in hell that stadium is going to open in 30 to 36 months. This is California, there’s at least five lawsuits and two propositions to be filed the moment the move is announced
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 24, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
This is California, there’s at least five lawsuits and two propositions to be filed the moment the move is announced
And then they will still need to complete the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) Report
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Ladies and Gentlemen, the 2011-12 Nets!
Jersey Strong.
Brooklyn Ready.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 24, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
Permission granted
Is a failure by the Giants in my eyes
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
.
Some dirty shit:
http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_19571910
Although San Francisco Giants officials acknowledge they support the group, exactly who else is behind Stand for San Jose and who’s bankrolling it is far from clear.
…
It’s not easy to find members of Stand for San Jose who are willing to speak openly about the lawsuit.
…
San Jose city officials said they expected the lawsuit and are unimpressed with its claims. And, they added, they see right through the group’s hidden agenda.
“Any time a group of San Francisco lawyers funded by a group of San Francisco millionaires calls themselves Stand for San Jose, we should brace ourselves for whatever comes next,” said San Jose City Councilman Sam Liccardo, who added that it was obvious that the San Francisco Giants are the main players behind the suit.
Giants spokeswoman Staci Slaughter called Liccardo’s comment “a false characterization of the group.”
She acknowledged that “part of it is supported by the San Jose Giants and the San Francisco Giants.” But, she said, “it also represents other citizens who are concerned about the issues at hand.”
…
“It’s clearly a setup to try to stall the project and delay the project in hopes that Major League Baseball will say no,‘’ Reed(San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed) said. "I think MLB will look at the merits and the facts and say yes.’’
…
A decision by MLB commissioner Bud Selig on whether the A’s can relocate to San Jose is expected early next year. It would then have to be approved by three-quarters of MLB’s owners.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 24, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Reinsdorf backs A's move to San Jose
http://www.fieldofschemes.com/news/archives/2011/12/4748_reinsdorf_backs.html
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 24, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
Jerome Simpson did a complete front flip over a guy
And landed on his feet for a TD
Fucking amazing
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
That should be worth double fantasy points
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 24, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
It looks like he tried to pull the defenders helmet off.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 24, 2011 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
I’m surprised nobody flew a flag on the play for excessive something or other
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 24, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
Excessive awesome
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting. I'm Twittering now (well maybe not literally now): @GoofusMcP
Well, he doesn’t complete the flip if he doesn’t reach back for that leverage.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 24, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
I remember Jahvid Best doing a similar jump into the end zone when he played for Cal, but it didn’t turn out well for him (he ended up with an injury and missing some games).
I think Reggie Bush did a few flips into the end zone at USC but I’m not sure if he did one over somebody
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 24, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
I was at that game
He jumped like 5 feet in the air, and then got smashed another 5 feet into the air. He landed in the endzone for a touchdown, but I think he might have actually been knocked out for a minute. It was scary. He was way the hell up there.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 24, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
Truth
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
which doesn’t stop him from dating Victoria Secret Models. It’s good to be a crappy QB in New York
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 24, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
So frustrating
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Yup.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 24, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
Kraft High five fail
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
by DFARowand on Dec 24, 2011 12:36 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
LOL
I saw that during the halftime highlights.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 24, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
Don’t leave me hanging Bro !
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
The Raiders are the ante-Tim Tebow.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
ugh.
Anti.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Tim Tebow threw back to back pick sixes today
And is losing 40-14 to Buffalo
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
O Father, wherefore hast thou forsaken Him?
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 24, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
The amount of backpedaling the sports media will start doing now that he’s being exposed will be quite a joy to watch. I just hope nobody hurts themselves as they do so
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 24, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
BUT HE CAN TOTALLY KEEP UP HIS INTERCEPTION RATE!
lol.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 24, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
I’m lolling at the people who told me that.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 24, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
NO PROBLEM
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 24, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
So Fox took me away from the Giants/Jets game to show me a black screen
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
No, that was just the Jets.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 24, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
They are playing stupid today.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 24, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
He’s been receiving like trash lately.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 24, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
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