Hoping That the Giants are Just Kidding, Guys
In case you missed it, this was the headline of the Orange County Register on November 11:
Dipoto: Angels won't be big spenders this winter
LIAR. FILTHY, RAT-FACED LIAR.
"I can't say it's Plan A," Dipoto said of pursuing Pujols or Fielder, both of whom are seeking deals in excess of $150 million. "I don't particularly think it's the right way to go."
WHY DO YOU LIE? THE REPORTERS ARE JUST DOING THEIR JOB, YOU HORRIBLE PERSON.
Well, if the reporters are doing their jobs, the GMs who obfuscate and run interference are doing their jobs as well. There usually isn't a good reason to tell the truth, especially in the Giants' position. They've been a wet blanket this entire offseason, loudly exclaiming at every turn that there isn't a chance that they'll sign anyone more expensive than Eli Whiteside. But what's the risk of being a wet blanket, that the waiting list for season tickets will shrink? And what's the alternative?
Sabean: Oh, man, we are totally interested in Carlos Beltran. The whole offense clicked when he was here.Other team: Uh, we will offer Beltran three years then.
Sabean: I mean, a switch-hitter with power who gets on base? Everything that's wrong with this team has to do with not having guys like that. And we can have one for just money? Of course we're interested. Very interested.
Different team: $40 million, then. Final offer. Please accept this and hang up with the Giants or we're pulling the offer.
Sabean: Boy, we sure are interested in Carlos Beltran.
No one benefits in that scenario. Except for you. And me. And everyone who would prefer to see an offense-minded upgrade to the Huff/Pagan/Schierholtz outfield. We'd get the satisfaction of thinking that Beltran is still a legitimate possibility, but at the cost of Beltran being a likely possibility. It's all very go-back-in-time-to-kill-your-own-grandpa, this paradox.
Now Beltran's price is reportedly down. He's weighing offers for two and three years, probably around $12 or $13 million per year. Here, then, is the handy-dandy guide to affording Carlos Beltran:
Step 1
Sign Carlos Beltran before you move on to step two.
Step 2
Trade Jeremy Affeldt for anything.
Step 3
Trade Melky Cabrera for anything.
Step 4
Do not re-sign Aubrey Huff for $12 million after the season is over.
There you have it -- Carlos Beltran without an increased payroll. Maybe we're talking $1 million or so. Maybe even $5 million if the bidding gets hot and heavy. But there's a pretty good chance that the McCovey Chronicles Four-Step Method is a sound one.
Edit: It should be noted that the McCovey Chronicles Four-Step Method was originally developed by Lefty over a week ago. The idea wormed into my brain, "My Sweet Love"-style, and I apparently absconded with the idea and didn't give credit. So, please, visit Lefty's fine blog and encourage him not to sue me. Also, please don't tell him that I've done this before on six separate occasions because then he'll look for those posts too.
I can't shake the idea that the Giants are playing the game because they have to. They weren't going to sign Bengie Molina until they signed Bengie Molina. At three or four years, maybe the Giants really weren't in on Beltran. But if he's willing to accept a large two-year deal, it is ludicrous that the Giants aren't making an effort to do that. Here's hoping that they are. And the math is already done for them.
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Just say Nope to Hope...
Uncle Sabes...How much longer til we get there?
by NorCalGiant on Dec 20, 2011 9:59 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think grant is smoking again.
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Dec 20, 2011 1:16 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Nah, he’s off his meds.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I'm on meds now!
For high cholesterol and blood pressure. So if anyone’s itching for an OT-starter, some good healthy recipes would be delightful. Fish preferred, mostly because I have no idea how to cook a lot of it. Put some swordfish in the oven for 20 minutes at 350, and it came out pretty swell.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 20, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
omega-3
delicious. you should become a vegan, yeah the food sucks and you are always hungry, but you can live an extra month.
Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.
by James Westfall on Dec 20, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
I cook a lot of vegan food that doesn’t suck.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
Maybe
But it would probably be significantly improved with some sweet, sweet meat.*
*but not sweet meats, per se.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
or cheese, or anything that tastes good
Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.
by James Westfall on Dec 20, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
I've had many tasty vegetrian/vegan dishes
ht could have been made epic with a little animal flesh and/or dairy.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
a very simple one
Mix together dijon mustard, white wine, and some minced garlic. Dip catfish fillets into the mixture to coat. Panfry, sans oil, in a non-stick pan. Make sure to turn your fan on / open windows, because it gets smoky. Cook until it’s done on both sides. Then you’re done.
Goes nicely with rice and salad.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
What about the fish in the middle?
Peanut Butter outside, Chocolate inside... Butter inside, Cheese outside.
/interprets this as a tacit request to see my junk
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 20, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Most of the patients in my practice are startled by the fact that a cardiologist would need to touch their genitals.
“Really? That’s the best place to take my pulse?”
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 20, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
If he has to install a stent
He will see your junk!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
Hey there is a growing (pun intended) movement to use stents to treat erectile dysfunction. They are putting stents in the junk!
I cringed just reading that!
Ouch
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
Lars’ cardiologist: "GODDAMN IT! Will you stop propellering long enough for me to get to your femoral artery!?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
My childhood physician committed suicide by opening his femoral artery.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Yikes.
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He tried rat poison, but that didn’t work. Then they left him unsupervised in his hospital room.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
1: Open trash can
2: Deposit fish
3: Order pizza
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
by Solidarity on Dec 20, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
actually, this reminds me
A while back, I made a smoked salmon pizza. Homemade crust, pesto base, topped with smoked salmon, dill, and scallions. It came out as pretty much the best thing ever.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
This has potential.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Eliminate as much salt as you can
It sucks at first, but eventually you get used to it.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah.
I’m trying, and doing okay. But it turns out that every single goddamn thing worthwhile has salt.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 20, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
That’s because salt tastes good.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
sometimes you can make up for lack of salt by adding other spices. Hot peppers, curry, rosemary, etc… just make sure it’s true spice and not some stoopid mix with salt in it.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
there is no evidence that a low salt diet reduces your blood pressure
sorry.
[Poorly Wrought THING] is what Brian Sabean would have made if he were a [THING-maker] instead of a MLB GM
I doubt that you are.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 21, 2011 6:42 AM PST up reply actions
You’re way more successful and handsomer than me and yet, our insides are the same! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA U SUCK
Handsomer?
That’s Grant, not Sullivan.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
lol old
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Hmm, we do a Sea Bass thing baked in saffron that’s pretty damn incredible, I’ll have to see if I can find the recipe. Although it’s virtually impossible to not make a fantastic salmon no matter what you do to it as long as you stop doing it after about 10 minutes.
Also, the Candle Cafe in New York has a veggie cookbook that has had 100% yummified success in our house.
cedar plank salmon yo
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
First time I ever tried to make fish for a date, I tried to steam it in a pan. Everything was fine, until I tried to take the lid off. Damn thing was steamed shut. I tried to pry it open but nothing worked. I ended up pounding the lid with a hammer until it broke. My date was laughing, it was so fricken funny. We went out for dinner…now I broil fish, mostly salmon.
You were well on your way to using Solidarity’s recipe.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 20, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
Season with a sawdust crust for best results. I find it gets rid of that fishy smell quite well.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I have tried to like fish, especially salmon, and unless I drown it in something else to cover up the taste I find it nasty.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Shark is good when grilled.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
most likely it’s injured.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
/ golf clap….well done
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
What about Sharksrog?
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I used to hate fish, and even now, only like certain fish. I don’t care for raw oysters or scallops.
scallops must be prepared correctly or they suffer from the same problem as oysters
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Color me insane. $1.00 oysters this month at Hog and Rocks (new)!
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
I would be nervous about eating $1 oysters.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Of course you would, you don’t like them. Scott’s kitchen serves some of the best oyster’s around.
I think the Foreign Cinema is the best, but they’re $36.00/dzn, but a much better champagne list.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Sane men do not eat….testicles.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
That’s a fairly common happy hour special for seafood restaurants.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 20, 2011 6:57 PM PST up reply actions
Get a tuna steak. Marinate tuna steak in soy sauce, maple syrup, garlic, and bourbon. Get some potatoes. Mash ‘em. When mashing them, put in wasabi powder and grated Parmesan. Prepare some kind of plant to eat as well…. I usually go with green beans or sugar snap peas. Sear that tuna. If you’re feeling crazy, make some sort of mustard cream sauce to drizzle onto the green beans. Or whatever. I think green beans are awesome as is. Enjoy.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Hey, oatmeal can be fun. Nutmeg, cinnamon, brown sugar, maple syrup, any kind of dried or fresh fruit, pecans, walnuts…..
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Oatmeal is awesome, especially steel cut oats.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
oh yeah.
TJ’s has a frozen oatmeal that is really good.
….this reminds me… I was going to look for a slow cooker oatmeal recipe.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Wait
Frozen oatmeal? For when hot water is too complicated?
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 20, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
steel cut oats take awhile to make 30-45 minutes, plus cleanup, the frozen ones are done in 3 minutes and there’s no pots, pans, wooden spoons to demuckify.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh steel-cut, ok.
My very simple life has gone without steel-cut oats to date.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 20, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
Sarcasm is not welcome here....wait..nevermind
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Frozen Steel Cut Oatmeal that contains real maple syrup, and brown sugar.
I am not the only one that likes it.
Trader Joe’s Frozen Steelcut Oatmeal Might Change Your Life
http://www.seriouseats.com/2010/06/trader-joes-frozen-steelcut-oatmeal-might-cha.html
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Cleaning up after making oatmeal the “traditional” or stovetop way is such a freaking mess too. No time for that during the week.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
When I do make a pot of Steel Cut, I portion off 3/4 cup servings into ziplocks and put it into the freezer. Works almost as well as the TJ’s.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Pesce in carticcio is your friend. The ingredients are open to improvisation – for instance I often add a glug of white wine to each pouch.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
I "oven-fry" fish sometimes
Coat in seasoned panko crumbs (hold the salt) and bake. Also, baked salmon with a light coat of low sodium BBQ sauce or other tasty alternative is awesome with sweet potato “oven fries”. Been fighting the BP and cholesterol battles and have both under control now.
NorCal passion trapped in SoCal pain...
I wanna rage.
sweet potato fries with harissa or other hot, peppery, spice blends are really yummy.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Ayup.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
Got 2 for ya
First, Bourbon Glazed Salmon, just a pinch of that Bulleit you are so fond of…
Best for bbq, but you can toss it in the oven (400 for 20 or so)
Marinade: Cup of brown sugar, 6 tablespoons bourbon, 1/4 cup low-sodium soy sauce, 2 tablespoons lime juice, 2 teaspoons fresh ginger (grated or chopped), 1/2 teaspoon salt, 1/4 teaspoon ground pepper, 2 garlic cloves (crushed or sliced) and your salmon (8 6 ounce fillets) Do the math and cut in half for 4 6 ounce fillets, etc.
Mix up sauce, toss it in a gallon zip lock with the salmon, shake it all around. 20 minutes to 2 hours, your choice. If you like zingy, more lime, heat, more garlic, etc.
2nd Recipe
Rice can get boring, try “spanish style” – (cooking with a tall sauce pan in this case)
oil, heated up some, throw chopped onions (white/yellow your choice) in, simmer for a minute stirring, then toss your rice in – works best with long grain basmati, but whatever you got is OK – stir it to get it toasty. Then after a minute or so, depending on how toasty you have an appetite for, throw in juice of one lime, and salt (a little is OK). Stir it, and then throw in your 2 cups of water (assuming 1 cup of rice). Stir it, get it to a boil, cover and put on simmer like usual.
With the rice: the low man on the fish totem pole: TALAPIA. Cheap, white, flakey. Fry pan, some butter (don’t need too much), put in a little olive oil if you like, some people don’t like it with their fish, choices… Salt/Pepper a bit, then you can choose: lime or lemon, squeeze it on. Talapia will flake a bit, hopefully get a bit brown, cooks up quick (with kids, this is sort of important)
OK, so you got some weird rice and a cheap flaky fish. What the hell!
Throw some mango salsa on it. This way you can avoid some salt, get some flavor. Depending on season, some of these ingredients might not be hot, but sometimes an all-green lousy version of these tastes good… with salt.
Salsa: 1 mango, 1 avocado, 1 tomato, 1/2 jalapeno, 2 green onions, 1 lime. Slice em up to whatever size you like, add more of what you like, more heat, use the whole jalapeno. Garlic will overpower a bit, but you can add that as well, or some sliced raw onion.
Put that fish on the rice, and the salsa on the fish, nice quick meal. Somehow my kids like this, which is awesome for me.
Sorry to hear about the high cholesterol/blood pressure, it can suck at first, but you’ll be all good as long as you watch it.
Grant, you need this
I also just added blood pressure meds. Here are plenty of ways to do fish. Simple.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/03/magazine/mag-03Eat-t.html
I can only be nice to one person a day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.
by GiantMalcontent on Dec 20, 2011 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
Which tells you how kick-ass the off-season has been!
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I just saw that
hahahahahhahahahahha.
Dayton Moore is hilarious.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
hey guys/gals watch this....
this is what the giants need more of…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1DwUC4IkDM
just a couple of gritty vets getting in there and showing the younins how its done.
Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.
I am dreading the day some team gets a huge steal on Beltran.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
They'll get it when Whiteside throws low, and Orlando Cabrera cuts it off in front of the bag
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 20, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
I am quietly holding out hope that Sabean is playing it cool, and in his free time is reading dating guides on WikiHow to figure out how long he needs to wait before calling Carlos.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Maybe he’s seen Swingers too many times?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 20, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
Screw this baseball talk
I need to figure out what to make for my Christmas day feast.
I’m thinking a new york roast with a garlic-herb crust, and maybe some garlic smashed potatoes, but I’d like to add some razzle-dazzle.
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just add corn
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by James Westfall on Dec 20, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
creamed corn
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
...
Heh
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
My family always does goose for Christmas. It’s delicious.
I’m doing Christmas Eve dinner this year. The last few years, I’ve done a Pacific Rim Hot Pot. the recipe’s from a restaurant in the San Juan Islands – it has salmon, halibut, shrimp, shellfish, udon noodles, and a spicy broth that’s pretty much the best thing ever.
It won’t quite be “Pacific Rim,” though, since in Florida you can’t get halibut and we may or may not be able to get good Pacific salmon. Last year I think I used grouper and trout instead. Still good.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
I’m afraid I will need your address. Please set an extra place for me.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
No nothing here for Christmas this year. I’ll probably have leftovers.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Ditto
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
My family usually has ham but my niece’s boyfriend is spending the day with the family and he’s Jewish so no ham.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Since he’s Jewish, you’re making Chinese food?
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Hey! Thanks! Due to a total schedule fuckup Mr. Merope is out of town for the holidays … and I’ll be here alone. BUT …he hates Chinese food…I love it. Guess I’ll go out for Chinese food that day!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
We are going non-traditional. My Grandson asked for Taco’s and I gladly acquiesced to his wish.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
If my in-laws weren’t coming, I’d happily do something like this. We do the whole traditional thing for them.
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I applaud your willingness to submit to tradition. I’d probably tell them "Taco’s or go home. "
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
They’re old and my husband is their only living child. It’s the least I can do for them. They are very nice people, so it’s not too onerous.
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They are very nice people
and apparently so are you.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
That’s actually what we call it when I make the big slab of red meat.
Still doesn’t get the kids to eat it.
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Have you ever tried leg of lamb? I’m trying to work up the nerve to tackle that some time this winter. As a non-cook, I find the very idea daunting.
Now is the winter of our discontent
Made glorious summer by this son of Cabrera.
I do like lamb, but it must be cooked for a long time to get it tender enough to eat. It can also be bouncy if not done right. I’m thinking of trying it in the slow cooker.
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I'm trying to figure out how I want to make the brussel sprouts
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
See my comments re: preparing fish.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Same way Solidarity makes fish.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
good choices
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Whatever choice you make, it should include bacon of some kind.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Yup. Render the bacon in pan, remove bacon bits, toss halved sprouts in the rendered fat, season, roast. Add back the bacon prior to serving.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
This is my general mo with brussel sprouts. A little garlic and caramelized onion as well.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Make those onions shallots and that’s my approach too.
by BestHyperboleEver on Dec 20, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
My favorite method: slice them in half, coat them in a mixture of garam masala, cornmeal, and olive oil, and roast ’em.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
that sounds amazing
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I wish I was married to you.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Tease.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
Some might say that I saute my brussels sprouts with onion
But it would be more accurate to say that I saute my onion with some brussel sprouts.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Anything to hide the taste.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
Poor misguided fools.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
I don’t like artichokes either.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
choose small ones. Rinse, cut off the stem end. Cut in half.
chop some onion, fry (cast iron is best) with (olive) oil until a bit softened, then add brussels, sprinkle with cayenne, maybe some powdered fenugreek, cook pretty hot and fast, add a little soy sauce if it seems too dry
and like was said, DO NOT OVERVOOK
Marvin Barrios, come on I'll show you your bedroom. Don't stay on the phone too long to Panama, please.
by foothillsfan on Dec 20, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
Here in AZ I'm seeing Rib Roast for sale all over the place.
3.49-3.99/lb
I think that’s gonna be my choice.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
smoked one of those bad boys a while back…pretty amazing.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 20, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
It’s a different cut. I’m not a fan of prime rib.
Last year I made a tenderloin (same cut filet mignon’s come from). It was magnificent, but at $20-25 a pound, I’m so nervous that I’ll ruin it. The new york roast I’m looking at is about $12/lb. I can do that without freaking out.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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Not a fan of prime rib? What the… how could you not… why?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I prefer a finer cut of meat.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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tee hee
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
With less fat? Because that is where all of the yummy goodness is.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
The marbling has to be just so to make the meat tender without being all rubbery and bouncy.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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So you are a filet girl?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Totally.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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It’s a damn good cut. I’ve been converted to Ribeyes though.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
While wearing a straw hat, perhaps?
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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Only a straw hat. It’s hard to overstate how much this site has changed me.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
lulz
This site has probably ruined all of us.
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A friend of mine who lived in Kansas City, Cincinnati, and NYC before moving to SF and becoming a Giants fan was at the park and caught herself just before pointing at someone in a McCovey jersey and telling me “they must be on the message board, too!”
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 20, 2011 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
I did prkme rib roast last year
I think I used ina garten’s recipe.
My mother-in-law tried to get me to cook it in a roasting bag. True story.
Mark DeRosa , he had his moments.
by oldjacket on Dec 20, 2011 3:08 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
AS long as Beltran is still on the market
there is still hope.
As much hope as the Warriors getting Dwight Howard or the Niners getting Peyton Manning.
But seriously, there is still hope.
Even at a reduced price, they aren't buying
I mean, the Giants understand what they are running out at SS in 2012 and Rollins at 3/33 was too pricey.
I want to believe, because you are right, it has been a depressing offseason so far, but I believe the ownership group knows it can skate by and lock up their own assets without adding to the offense.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 1:24 PM PST reply actions
Yeah, but Rollins would have cost us our #29 pick in next year’s draft. Beltran is free.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
is that still true under the new CBA?
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
and could end up being
4/44 for Rollins.
Rollins and the Phillies finalized a $33 million, three-year contract on Monday. The deal includes a vesting option for a fourth year at $11 million. If not vested, that could be a club option at $8 million or a player option at $5 million.
Rollins
isn’t 3/33, he’s 3/38 or 4/44, and that’s the hometown discount. Giants would have had to go over that to get the win, and he would have cost the draft pick.
Nice player though.
Seeing as that he’s from here, wouldn’t the Giants get the hometown discount?
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
He was an A’s fan.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
I have a facebook friend who's a big Royals fan
He’s a really nice, smart, interesting guy, but his baseball opinions baffle me. He hated the Greinke trade Betancourt was his favorite player, and he was excited and relieved at the Bruce Chen contract extension this offseason.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
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Hahaha.
“You can HAVE that emo kid, but don’t take Yuni!”
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Maximizing the Misdirection
I have similar hopes, but they are waning in light of trading for two fourth outfielders and pencilling them in to starting jobs.
I want to go back in time and make sure Neukom and Baer’s grandmothers never learn the phrase “rainy day fund.”
Dammit, I wish I’d thought of this! Oh, wait…
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by leftymalo on Dec 20, 2011 1:26 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
LOL GRANT!!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
You'll be hearing from the Atlanta Braves' lawyers.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
LOL
Grant
This would not make sense because of reasons.
Like
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Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
by scout6 on Dec 20, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Edited the post.
When I wrote “don’t sue” I just thought it was a coincidence. Didn’t remember actually reading the post, which I do now.
Guys, you have to believe me.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 20, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I love that it was a week ago.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I do a lot of internetting
The worst part about this is that GiantPain is going to be a total ass. I mean, more so.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 20, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah. I assume this happens relatively often.
Not just with you, but with people whose job it is to be in front of computers all day.
Probably more so to you. And I am willing to testify to that, Lefty.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
The neck area behind his ear...
so creepy.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
What does GP have to do with this?
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
Hahahaha, Zeppo Hairston.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
He’s always catching accusing me of stealing his ideas.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 20, 2011 4:00 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Nice!
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Dec 20, 2011 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
well played, sir
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Too late!
My counsel has contacted your counsel and is demanding delicious Bulgarian feta cheese and a case of the finest locally distilled gin.
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by leftymalo on Dec 20, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I counter with ...
… an agreement to call it the McCovey Chronicles Four-Step Method By Way Of Somewhere Else
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 20, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
BULGARIAN FETA CHEESE!!!
Don’t tell anyone, but I’m Greek and love that stuff!
I'm sorry. I couldn't hear you. I still have champagne in my ears.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
My personalized licence plate
idea is starting to crystallize.
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Lars...
loose lips sink ships.
you would’ve made a lousy GI in WWII.
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lol
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
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by Soulbrother16 on Dec 20, 2011 11:24 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
If lightning HAS struck twice...
and it has (in the form of Lefty and Grant arriving at the same conclusion), I’m inclined to start creating my “Welcome Back Beltran” sign right now. I just need to order 6 lbs of glitter from Michael’s.
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I want to hope like hell
But Sabes has told me that feelings like that are reserved for Manny Burriss
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Maybe Beltran’s not in the best shape of his life right now?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 20, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
Just out of random curiosity
..will you be changing your username now that Scott is no longer with us?
Now is the winter of our discontent
Made glorious summer by this son of Cabrera.
You’re ignoring the possibility that the Giants value Melky Cabrera and Jeremy Affeldt more than Carlos Beltran, and think that the team will be better with them than him.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I feel like this is trying to twist the situation rather crudely.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Again, I don't see much to support this assertion.
They are paying Huff $12 million this year, after all.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
But don’t you think that’s why they don’t want to pay Beltran? They want to get his and Rowand’s contracts off the books before they start paying for free agents?
If I've said it once, I've said it a million times.
Without access to their books or their notes, I don’t know why they aren’t shelling out the extra coin for Beltran. Maybe they are really maxed out. Maybe they, like other teams, are worried about his health. Maybe they want to save money for the trade deadline to make self-corrections.
It’s also possible that they believe what GiantPain was suggesting, but it seems like a theory more born out of bitterness than objective analysis, if I may be frank. Picking up Affeldt’s option and trading Sanchez don’t strike me as moves that are meaningfully connected. Affeldt and Lopez I have an easier time believing, and while they might be misjudging their worth, it does strike me that the market for halfway decent LH relievers is pretty thin this year.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
it seems like a theory more born out of bitterness than objective analysis, if I may be frank.
Really? You think that me saying the Giants decision to spend 10 million on Cabrera and Affeldt next season instead of putting that money towards Beltran implies that they value Cabrera and Affeldt more than Beltran is a statement made out of bitterness?
Beltran was always going to cost about 10 million next season. That’s been the projection, more or less, since the offseason started (perhaps as high as 15, but that’s wiggle).
1) They knew he was probably going to cost somewhere around 10 million.
2) They had 10 million.
3) They decided to put that money towards Affeldt and Cabrera
4) They appear unlikely to put any money towards Beltran
5) Therefore, I assert that they think they’ll be better off with Affeldt and Cabrera than Beltran.
Call me bitter.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
You're missing a step or two, is the problem.
The Cabrera money was more or less already spent, unless they planned to non-tender Sanchez. As conceded before, Affeldt was totally a club choice, though they were going to have to pay a buyout either way, and pay a replacement at least the league minimum (Runzler), or someone on the trade market considerably more, given how thin the market is. So the combined savings between the two is more like $4 million. Even if you add in Lopez, Mota, and Fontenot, subtracting the league mininum for a replacement from all three, you’re still looking at a net savings of less than $9 million.
On top of that, there is seemingly low interest in Beltran at this point, and he still looks to cost around $12 million. So if his price is down to that much, it’s more likely that $15 million was a more realistic number to begin with.
So really, it’s just as likely that the money wasn’t there, and that ownership made it clear to Sabean early that they could not have Beltran for $15 million, end of story. So you can assert it. But we still don’t have anything even vaguely resembling certitude on what happened.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
No it wasn't. They could have traded Sanchez for a minor leaguer or a guy making league minimum.
And I’d almost rather have George Sherrill than Affeldt. And he’s making 1/5.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Okay. So if you non-tender Sanchez, take a minor leaguer, and don’t resign Mota, Fontenot, Lopez, and Affeldt, then you have just about enough money for Beltran, and half a bullpen.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I think Verdugo, Runzler, and Hembree would have been better than Mota, Lopez, and Affeldt.
Cheaper, too.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Yes, well.
Evidently, the organization doesn’t share that opinion, and I can’t fault them.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
OK
Explain why I’m bitter for thinking that, please.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
There seems to be a certain of projection of blame by a large faction of the commenters onto Affeldt and Lopez (Affeldt especially), even if it is truthfully directed at the organization, for not signing Beltran.
Even though we still have no fucking idea what did happen, might happen, or could have happened.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Affeldt and Lopez aren't that good.
It’s not their fault they’re signed to dumb contracts, but it’s their fault they’re fungible relievers.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I disagree with the “aren’t that good” or “mediocre” definitions on Lopez/Affeldt. They were both top 10 guys. If the Giants have looked around at the majors/minors/scrapheap, and decide those are their guys, especially short term, why not move on.
A top 3 bullpen is a strength. Expensive, yes.
I would consider it a luxury, personally.
But the org seems adamant about shoring it up, as do most of the top teams in baseball.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Look at the interest in Sean Marshall right now, another top ten Lefty with a defined salary.
I think its a big time weakness in the Yanks/Sox – their pens are terrible. The Yanks went to battle with one lefty in their entire pen, and they paid for it.
I think the 130MM is terrible, but I’m not taking it out on Lopez/Affeldt.
The Giants didn’t get their good bullpen by spending lots of money on relievers.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Don’t blockquote me with any of this please.
The Giants got their pen by FA, trade and the farm. They have evaluated their pen, the FA market (which is weakness defined), their minor leagues and possible trades, and if they choose to pay Lopez 2/10MM and pick up an option as the easiest way to do business, I’ll trust them on that.
Also
You didn’t tell me why having these opinions makes me bitter. You didn’t express an opinion about “a large faction of commenters”.
You specifically said that my theory “seems more born of bitterness than objective analysis”.
Explain yourself.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Because you sound bitter?
Passive aggressive digs get thrown around pretty commonly these days. “That’s two Affeldts,” just as an example. People seem to have dug in their heels about what’s wrong with the front office, despite it remaining a black box to pretty much all of us.
So yeah, I think there are a lot of people who are more interested in their own particular recipe of “what’s wrong with the org” than what we can actually scrutinize with any certainty.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I have had this discussion before
there is a sentiment that the Giant would be fine with Runzler and Hembree on the bullpen
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by CalBear949 on Dec 20, 2011 7:44 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
J. Sanchez dumped for cash
Zito replaces Mota
Surkamp replaces Zito
Hembree replaces Affeldt
Runzler replaces Lopez
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
Easier said than done. You now have three rookies (more or less) in important bullpen roles, Zito in a position he is ill-suited for, and a guy under contract for three years who has balky knees. They might all do well, but you assume a lot of risk in doing so.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Zito could do long relief work. Bochy had him pitch out of the bullpen at the end of last season. Mota was mostly cleaning up the mess Zito left behind anyways.
I anticipate Zito losing his starting job sometime next season.
Runzler is going to be 27. How long much longer is he going to stay in Fresno?
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
Until he learns to throw strikes.
Or to throw to first base. At least one of the two.
As for Zito, in his extremely limited sample as a reliever at the end of last season, he didn’t exactly dazzle.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
what happens when Romo and Wilson go on the DL again?
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by CalBear949 on Dec 20, 2011 8:16 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Both? Wilson could be broken and that is the reason for bringing Affeldt back.
They’ll be careful with Romo if they fear for his health.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
Sherrill has a lower career ERA, lower career FIP
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
/insert Vlad quote here
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I sincerely look forward to Beltran signing for 2/25 elsewhere and the subsequent MCC meltdown
I feel like I want to rage. Right now.
dont forget
Rick Ankiel is still out there…he fits perfectly into the Giants 2012 offseason plans. In no way is he even league average, he is almost 33 and his numbers show him trending downward…i can see it now, “we really weren’t comfortable going two years on Beltran with his injury history and his age, so we went for the younger more versatile Ankiel….he is a great clubhouse guy and one hell of a leader.. plus he can pitch if we get in a jam”
Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.
What a bizarre and improbable career he’s had.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
please make SF your new home Ankiel
it would just be so right
Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.
by James Westfall on Dec 20, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
...and keep the pressure on Zito
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i’d like to see who’s a worse pitcher at this point. Not quite sure Zito wins this
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 20, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sure the Cards checked this angle out...
…but is it against the rules to pitch from the outfield?
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I blame TBS more than I blame Ankiel.
Oh, and Ramon Ramirez.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Mike Gonzalez and John Grabow are still unsigned, maybe that will bring us up to 130 million.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 20, 2011 1:31 PM PST reply actions
grabow signed a few days ago
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by Nnamdi Asomugha on Dec 21, 2011 1:35 AM PST up reply actions
Apparently Grant isn't past the denial stage.
Or is this bargaining?
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I believe during the Melky thread at the beginning of the offseason
I mentioned that I was worried that Melky would be the only move. I think they have shown this is the only move to improve the offense they were going to make.
Melky is the big bat.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
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If nothing else, wouldn't Pagan and Melky appease Beltran's weird desire
for players that already existed on the team in forms he was less happy with?
Like hell
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Our only hope.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
by Cody_ransom on Dec 20, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The Giant’s should have taken whatever hit to the budget (which I give them the benefit of the doubt on for whatever reason) and signed somebody to show that they’re going for it. They could go for the jugular here- take the division, take the league, take the area. But just calling it a day with Melky shows no desire to go for the killer blow and that’s the frustrating thing
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 20, 2011 1:40 PM PST reply actions
Interesting
The NFL announced on Tuesday that it will be streaming the Super Bowl, Pro Bowl and Wild Card Saturday on NFL.com and via Verizon’s NFL Mobile app.
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
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I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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And Blackout Periods
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That’s the infuriating thing. I WILL buy it from them!
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by troymccluresf on Dec 20, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
Royals
HAHAHAHAHA
And yeah, prior to the TV renegotiation, I can’t imagine the Angels were going to spend.
I think the Giants should have considered a possible one or two year spike in their budget
With the knowledge that Rowand and Zito’s salaries will eventually come off the books. Those contracts are not going to be there forever and if you have the possibility of improving your team now, you should do so rather than wait. We are talking about an ownership group worth a collective couple of billion dollars. I am sure they can weather an extra 5 to 10 million for a couple of years.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 1:53 PM PST reply actions
I don't want to sound like the contrarians, but the Giants have raised payroll. And I think it *was* a $5M bump.
It’s being managed poorly and without creativity.
10-12 million.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
They did say they’ll raise next year or too although that could just be for whatever money they’re throwing at Timmy and Matt
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 20, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve mentioned it before, but raising payroll means nothing to me unless the product is on the field. If Rowand’s $13.5 mil is in the payroll, then we’re not seeing a $130 mil product. And then there’s the Zito thing. . .
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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So assume that the budget takes the lost money into consideration and that we are already in a payroll spike situation
Is the Giants actual on field budget really something like 100 million? Is that going to be the limit when the dead money is off the books? Is that really something we should look forward to?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
That’s kind of my point. For the front office to say “SEE – we RAISED the payroll” when almost $30 million is really dead weight kinda pisses me off. Write off the Rowand money – he’s not on the team. Sign Beltran. There. Done.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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Totally agree
The team value increased 80 million from winning the WS, I have to think they would see the value of spending cash now to add to overall value.
Blerg
by Myemail21479 on Dec 20, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
But what are your thoughts on Brian?
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
MCC INSTAPOLL
The best news of the offseason was:
A. Yunieski Betancourt to the Royals
Let us know your opinion and please feel free to chime in with your thoughts.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
2006-Present
MLB leaders, Games Played:
5) Nick Markakis, 946
4) Miguel Cabrera, 946
3) Ichiro Suzuki, 953
2) Adrian Gonzalez, 958
1) ______________, 959
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Prince Fielder
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
We've done this one before.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Hmmm. Sorry.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Try this one instead:
Since 2007 in the minors:
2007: .301/.370/.539
2008: .349/.404/.545
2009: .321/.379/.507
2010: .321/.376/.510
2011: .332/.423/.529
2011 in the majors: .312/.369/.478
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
nah, he was pretty bad last year
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
and last year was the first where he slugged over .500
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Prince
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Too easy!
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Brandon Belt.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Dec 20, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Kevin Frandsen
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
The question wasn’t games not played
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
OK smarty pantses, tell me who's hit the MOST DOUBLES from 2006-present
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Jose Castillo
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
by El Person on Dec 20, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Second guess,
Brian Roberts.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Third guess,
Poo-holes.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
ME
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
SCOUT6
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Reyes
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
GiantPain has abandoned us.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I'll look it up
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
And the winner is........
Matt Holliday at 253. 1 behind him is Robby Cano, and 1 behind him is Miguel Cabrera.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2011 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
Did you do that with B-R?
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
FanGraphs makes it a little easier.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, way easier.
And no subscriber blinders, either.
However, it still annoys me that tracking by a particular stat column defaults to ascending. It seems like it should be the other way around.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I know!
If anyone was wondering, Joey Gathright has the least amount of double for qualified players during that time span.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2011 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
And if anyone was wondering who the hell Joey Gathright is, you’re not alone.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I think I had his rookie card or something, but I’ve always remembered him.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2011 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
So HOF baseball writer Bill Conlin resigned today after the Inquirer publised a story about him molesting young girls in the 70’s, including his neice.
Kickham where it hurts
ugh
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
ugh indeed. I grew up reading his stuff- good sports columnists (at least to an 8 year old)
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 20, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
Why is the sports world becoming the new Catholic Church/boy scouts? Ugh.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Hey now.
We are getting better.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Its almost as if it can happen anywhere.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Yeah.
Sadly, that’s never a line you’ll get the public to swallow. People need a scapegoat for this stuff, so I guess everyone will start cracking jokes about sports in the Northeast now.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
This guy has child molester written all over him

Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.
Actually
The opposing coach at my son’s football game last night was a woman who looked just like that.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
To be fair thee allegations are not from any sort of paw enforcemen.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Dec 20, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
Now there’s an interesting sentence.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
God damn kindle fire
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Dec 20, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
This right here is why I use a keyboard phone and not touchscreen keyboard. I cannot type on those bastards.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
There were able to hear things others couldn’t.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
paw enforcemen
Looks at keyboard…“paw enforcemen” ? Is this a new Marvel superhero ?
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
origin story involves a man being bitten by radioactive puppies
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 20, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
Super power:
Being able to turn grass yellow with a single piss.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 20, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
And don’t forget their main strength- super adorableness! Able to stop bad guys cold with just one or two licks to the face
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 20, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
Villian: Capetian Hook Worm
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Dec 20, 2011 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
And “The Postman”
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
/kicks them into space
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
I think that as soon as someone is accused of being a child molester one’s mind immediately makes that person ‘fit’ the assumed image of a child molester. “Just look at the guy! It’s obvious!” If it was obvious, wouldn’t things have emerged earlier? In the 70’s, for example?
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Did you see the SNL skit where there was a press conference to announce that the team’s coach was not a child molester despite looking like one?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 20, 2011 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
Stuff like this reminds me how out of touch I am with reality sometimes. Like that study I saw the headline for the other day, about how some ridiculous percentage of women are raped in their lifetime, I’m like “whoa — kids are molested waaaaaaaaaaay more than I would have ever guessed.”
I’m reading The Last Boy…. Biography of Mickey Mantle. Apparently the Mick was molested as a child.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
People are monkeys.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 21, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
You had better believe it.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 22, 2011 7:48 AM PST up reply actions
More OT: Cable Providers
So I’ve been without cable for 10 days now at the new apartment. I’ve watched a few dvds, played some wii with junior & got a lot of reading in. It’s been nice really. But I’m finally going through withdrawals. So, who do I choose (my only two options): Time Warner or ATT?
Only must have MLB Network.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
I really really hate the blackouts.
I’m thankful that I’m likely moving away soon, because then I can finally watch the Giants without paying like a dipshit.
Ha yeah I always forget about the blackout.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
The worst part is, I'd pay a lot more if I could just have the damn Giants games
I wouldn’t even mind if they ran local ads in the middle to help pay for their affiliates. It’s not like watching a show or a movie, those breaks STILL happen, whether I’m watching a blue screen with logos or not.
Seriously. I’d pay a couple hundred bucks a season to watch the Giants on my computer or Roku. I’m NOT going to spend ~$1000/year on Comcast’s bullshit.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 20, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
It’s the same with the NFL ticket app/website. Wouldn’t the advertising dollars make up for the ‘lost’ ticket sales of locals watching the game?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Internet Media moving faster than Old Media
With a bunch of grumpy old people who have no idea how to cultivate a following in the 21st century.
I wrote a huge paper on this shit in my last year of college.
It’s pretty cool at least that NBC streams SNF and they are apparently going to do the same with the NFL playoffs.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
And the Superbowl.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 20, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
That'd be interesting to read.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
Golden Gate Beer Bars | Tweetybox
by troymccluresf on Dec 20, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
Here's what I really don't get
Okay, I’m sure most of you know this, but for those that don’t, massive parts of your cable bill come out of the deals from which your provider has made with various networks. For example, you pay a hell of a lot more in your cable bill for ESPN than USA.
Keeping this in mind, could there not be a way for a local, within-blackout range, buyer to subsidize on top of the annual fee paid for MLB.tv, the percentage paid out typically in your monthly cable bill for coverage on ESPN, Comcast Sportsnet, and local channels?
For example, say you’re in a primarily Comcast zone, and considering Comcast’s stake in the TV rights for the Giants, let’s just say you pay the monthly rate divided by the actual percentage of Giants coverage in the 6-7 month period that is the baseball stadium. Now, MLB still takes their annual rate for their service, you’ve placated a local cable affiliate and ON TOP of that, commercials are still run during live broadcasts, so the numbers that subscribe to this service are added to the advertising rates that Comcast sells out. It’s still a captive audience, and the commercials would literally function the same as if they were run on television.
I know the Cable Networks feel threatened, but in the case of live sports, there is NO reason that their ad dollars can’t function the same as they do now, it’s literally the source from which it’s broadcast.
Too bad no one will listen.
And if you essentially pay the rates they'd receive for having subscribed to say, a cable package on a market by market basis
What is anyone losing?
Sure, MLB Network loses out a bit, so you fold MLB N and MLB.TV together
It’s just absurd in 2011 that people willing to pay are not allowed to consume the media in the means that they wish.
A la cart TV would be so awesome.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Which is why it will never happen
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
It's already happening
ON Demand, Hulu, Netlfix, Amazon, etc. It’s only a matter of time before we abandon channels all together and just go a la carte shows over the interweb.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
It does happen it certain instances. The issue is which delivery model will win out. Apple and Amazon provide the best option for a la carte, but charge ridiculous prices. This makes the content suppliers happy.
Hulu + is pretty good, charges a reasonable monthly free, but the good content is primarily Network TV and you still have to watch commercials.
On Demand has very good content, but the best on demand items are mostly linked to current providers like DirecTV, Comcast, Charter et al.
Netflix is good for older premium content, the fees are reasonable, but they are fighting a tough battle with the content providers. They cannot be what they once were are hope to be because the content providers are getting beat up by the service providers. I mean really, Netflix offered STARZ a $30M dollar agreement after having paid them $3m each year previously. STARZ refused because Netflix would not set up a separate “channel and fee” for Netflix users.
I hope, like Brian Sabean hopes for good offense, that you are right.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
I must be in the minority here. I don’t want watch all of my TV on my computer.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
You probably are. My daughters both use their laptops for most of their TV. I have a big ass LCD TV and use my Roku box and DirecTV. I’m old, I need a big TV.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
TVs are computers at this point.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 20, 2011 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
To put it again
This is literally a scenario where Comcast was not getting a cent out of me (other than the dollars from the view that one television at a local bar was paying out).
They could, however, be receiving money from me, not only through my blackout restriction fee, but through advertising dollars, and HOLY COW, more accurate advertising data, which is INFINITELY easier to monitor over the internet than it is through over-air guesstimates.
But this is the not the way we've always done it...
because of reasons.
We’ll devalue our current business model which has been working for us for decades! DECADES I TELL YOU!
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
But wait...
If we were smart, we would find a way to satisfy the nonconsumers. Those who don’t want to pay $134.99 a month just to watch 5 or 6 channels. We’d create a new business model that would target nonconsumers by delivering to them good enough service at a price they are willing to pay…We’d grow market share, and create a new and more sustainable business model to go along with out current one. As the old one inevitable dies the new one would be there to take it’s place and instead of suffering the same fate as the music industry, we’d still be in business 50 years from now.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
EXACTLY.
The important thing for the cable industry is to have a plan for when basic revenues drive full-speed off a cliff. Networks will suffer, and some programming will close down altogether, but the demand for content will be driven by the consumer’s dollar and corresponding and accurately monitored advertising revenue, and not what the provider estimates will occur.
But could the new market growth at a lower subscription cost offset the loss of the current higher paying consumers ? Would it reduce choice and resrict access because only those with significant cash/content dominate the new market ?
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
But could the new market growth at a lower subscription cost offset the loss of the current higher paying consumers ?
This is short term profit kind of question. And this is exactly the type of question that kills most business model innovations that would otherwise sustain dying business models.
They should rather ask themselves, will this change help sustain my business further, beyond the forseeable future.
Assuming that your industry will continue to play by the current rules and demand is foolish at best.
Would it reduce choice and resrict access because only those with significant cash/content dominate the new market ?
I don’t see how offering a new service that is paired down at a lower cost would reduce consumer choice. Not sure if I am understanding this properly though.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
They should rather ask themselves, will this change help sustain my business further, beyond the forseeable future.
I agree with this. That doesn’t seem to enter in to the thinking at this point. When you own the content, you can often make/buy the rules about who is allowed to enter the arena.
I don’t see how offering a new service that is paired down at a lower cost would reduce consumer choice. Not sure if I am understanding this properly though.
Not that I am entirely cynical, but if the model is changed buy those that currently control the market, it seems to me that the cost of entry might be structured to prevent competition.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Here down in the early to mid-20 somethings, based purely on observation
I can tell you, they’re not getting shit from these markets like they used to. Maybe I’m insane, but I’m pretty sure with things being the way that they are, I’d have to assume that new cable subscribers’ numbers are dropping rapidly. Now, I’m not privy to that data, and could easily be full of shit, but given the dramatic increase of rate increases, vs. the substantial loss of revenue from advertising dollars given DVR and other means of avoiding commercials, there has to be SOME correlation.
They’re trying to force paywalls and make Netflix bare the brunt of their losses and cause them to not only, A) pay more for content, but B) control the bandwidth of their users on such services.
But the cable companies are renting the DVRs to consumers. And you’re dismissing whole age brackets that weren’t raised in the Digital Age and a significant portion of the country that still believes Monster cables are the best cables because they cost a lot.
Certainly. I'm not saying to abandon anything altogether
But there need to be baby steps and concessions made, or they’re looking at long-term gloom.
Oh BTW, the DVR rental fees surely do not offset the loss in ad revenue across the board, there’s no way it could unless they charged A LOT.
Well, as I say below, they’re changing the way commercials are made so that there are at least images that stick in people’s mind. Also, I read a report that said something along the lines of people not actually fast forwarding commercials as often as we think. And, if we take into account that it’s likely most people who own DVRs do not watch all TV content on delay, then they are at least seeing live commercials in instances where they cannot forward through.
And all those On Demand choices are those baby steps. As has been embracing — or, at least — being open to the idea of — the DVR.
I am simultaneously with you and against you on this. It’s not growing as fast as the technology and if these companies got behind it 100% we’d have even better consumption models/platforms/channels. But that’s just not how money works. Don’t leave it on the table. Still, film/TV is not the music business. They are at least aware that they have to do something to stay with the times, unlike the music business. It’s just happening at a crawl.
I was able to program a button on my cable remote
to jump in 30 second increments while using the DVR. It is the best thing ever.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
You are a fucking genius, Lars.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I have that built in on my directv remote. Also, 15 minute jumps, which are surprisingly handy.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
Concur
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Yup. Except when you try to do a 15 minute skip and it skips all the way to the end.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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All technologies have their dangers…
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
We have 5 minute jump buttons (forward and back) on our comcast remote alongside of the 30 second jump forward button. NHL intermissions are three 5 minute jumps and 4 30 second jumps. So useful.
Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
LOL
a significant portion of the country that still believes Monster cables are the best cables because they cost a lot.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
After the model was introduced by Tivo, and the cable companies fought like hell to keep them out of homes. They only changed the business model when they realized they could profit from it. Because it’s profitable.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
This is becaus of DIVIDENDZ!
Public companies get hammered when they dont meet projections. They have to keep the current revenues moving and cant incur costs. This is why few companies ever succeed at creating new market disruptions internally. In fact Apple might be the only company to accomplish this and still maintain growth.
Usually a separate entity needs to be created. This is why Netflix old model mail delivery was rebranded Qwikster and the streaming service was separated. That wasn’t handled well and eventually investors killed them for it and they had no choice but to reverse course.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
Smart companies will keep their ear to the ground for smart start-ups, and then roll out a competing product before they can brand and patent.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Or rather,
Smart companies should. They probably won’t.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
This doesn't happen much.
Google, facebook, Apple, that’s about it. They are too busy witht he current business model to be bothered by such things.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
Ergo should. It would be a change in the current MO, which is be about six steps and three lawsuits behind innovation, grumbling the whole way.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
like many other things in this country. We tend to do things because “that’s the way they’ve always been done” not because it does or does not make sense.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I remember reading about how Disney had to establish their own district with the ability to create local laws in Florida just so they could avoid all sorts of red tape that prohibits the innovation they wanted to do when creating Walt Disney World.
Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
The record companies never tried something like Hulu, or streaming their product on their own websites, like every broadcast network now does.
Of course, the big obstacle used to be that it was harder to download video than audio, but now we see that is no longer such a limitation.
So, the next thing they’ll do, since it’s all vertically integrated, is use the distribution arm to throttle bandwidth to prevent Netflix and other streaming services from competing directly with the cable channels in terms of ease of access/ubiquity.
If giving the consumers a choice is more profitable right now, then they’ll switch to a la carte. But because it isn’t this quarter or even in the next couple, they won’t. And, your’e right, they’ll be slow to change.
But video content providers and distribution channels are so much more intertwined than audio content providers and distribution that the 1:1 collapse you’re predicting just isn’t going to happen. Especially with Congress on their side.
The eventual stark losses would seem to necessitate some sort of back up plan
Rather than throw all the dice on vertical integration and hope like hell you get to regulate what everyone uses with their allocated bandwidth.
Once again
SOPA is that backup plan. It is easier to confine than conform.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Exactly.
People give people too much credit for planning ahead.
Suck all the profits from the current model until there’s nothing left and then re-rig the system so that the model stays on life support a bit longer to reap some more.
Ultimately, I think it'll fail.
Adapt or die, and all that.
They tried to kill VHS. They tried to kill MP3 players. They’re running out of bullets.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Nobody's trying to kill the DVR.
Nielsen now incorporates that in their sampling, ad companies have figured out that they need bright colors and static shots that will stick in viewers mind as they skip ahead, and networks have opened the floodgates on crawls, bugs and product placement during the shows.
Tried. Past tense.
See my above comment.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Which is why piracy happens in the first place.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
It’s cheap, it’s accessible, and most people don’t think much of the imposed disincentives.
It doesn’t need to be the only option to be an attractive one. Why do you think people always show up in GDTs asking for streams?
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
cuz they just bought a new sunfish ?
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Piracy happens because people would rather not pay than pay, not because they can’t get the content in the manner they’d like it (meaning the medium/availability).
It’s not necessarily that I wouldn’t pay a single cent (for example for baseball games) but it’s that I don’t want to pay $60 for the cable package, $10 for the reciever, $35 for installation, etc… just to watch 1% of the programming they are making me buy.
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Piracy happens because people would rather not pay than pay
This statement is correct.
Free, or not free: that is the question:
Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The charges and bundles of outrageous service providers,
Or to take arms against the sea of content
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by nvsfg on Dec 20, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I dunno… the whole football thing for us is messed up. We bought Sunday Ticket for several years cuz the Mr [for some crazy reason] wanted to watch his Bengals.
Then a tree on a neighboring property grew and we lost our satellite window. Now if the game isn’t on he pirates it cuz he’s really got no choice.
We tried some other NFL thing where you can watch the game after it’s over, but with all the blackout shit, most of the time he couldn’t watch the game until Tuesday night.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Blanket statements like that are rarely true.
Music piracy went on the decline as iTunes became more popular. Why? Because it’s accessible and convenient.
Game piracy went on the decline as Steam became more popular.
I’m guessing Netflix and Hulu led to a decline in TV and movie piracy, as well.
People will pay for production quality if it is easily accessible. The overhead costs of cable and packages like MLB.tv are, simply put, unattractive to consumers. Microtransactions are quite possibly the future of consumer media. And until the industries catch up with that fact, people will continue to pirate liberally rather than pay the overhead.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
At a point, when the legal option is cheap and convenient enough, piracy becomes much less attractive.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Exactly.
iTunes is exhibit A.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Music piracy went on the decline as iTunes became more popular. Why? Because it’s accessible and convenient.
But Apple had to force the issue. The RIAA was never in favor of direct single sales to consumers because they wanted to sell the complete album/disc as opposed to single songs. Apple was smart enough, had the clout and the technology to force the issue. Apple also created their own DRM to satisfy the content creators.
They also found the correct price to value ratio. This is where the Video content owners are dropping the ball. I like Dexter, but I’m not going to pay $2.99 per episode.
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The media conglomerates are going to continue to fight every step of the way: they want to have media distributed on their terms, and they don’t want to have to invent a new distribution platform. Ultimately, it is companies like Apple, Netflix, Pandora, and others that have and will continue to force the issue, as will the open source and Creative Commons movements as they continue to spread. The internet has completely changed the way we handle services and distributions (Salesforce, for example), and without a severe rollback in internet security and freedom (net neutrality issues, SOPA, Protect IP act, etc.), it’s going to continue to march the transformation forward.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
That's fine, but the same company that owns
NBC also owns internet pipelines (the actual cables) that allow for those other companies to flourish. Apple & Co. will need to come up with their own distribution at some point if they and the conglomerates can’t find a common ground.
Apple has the hammer.
If they dropped pricing to 99 cents per episode, game would be over. They have 120 million customers already paying that for music. Why wouldn’t they pay that for video? They have the money to take the loss for YEARS!
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See Netflix vs STARZ
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Then piracy will spike again
And the providers will sit there making no money.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
They will get their parent companies to put a dead hooker or naked toddler
in a Congressman’s car and the laws will change to stop piracy.
That would never happen…..that’s not the way we do business here in ’murica.
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Yet again
It’s called SOPA. They are voting on it tomorrow.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Need a rope ?
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It was more a reply to E6D.
My point is, it’s happening RIGHT NOW.
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1. What I am saying is Apple could pay them their rate and take a loss on content for years as they build up user base and create consumer habit.
2. Content providers, if they pulled the content would be saying goodbye to the biggest pipeline to digital devices, biggest by a huge margin. 25 million iPads out there as of June. There will probably be 40 million by January. 120 million credit cards in iTunes.
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You would make a terrible board member. You’re advocating taking a loss. Apple doesn’t innovate, it improves upon. The goal is to make money. I get what you’re saying, but, really, companies exist solely for the profit of its board members. That’s it. “Creating the future” or innovating, or whatever, is all bullshit. There are companies where innovation/advancement is the product, but all this cable stuff is really just a discussion about content distribution.
Every6thDay is mostly right on this
There is no innovation to be had at this particular juncture. It’s just a matter of having the will or market temperance to make it so.
Glad to be a terrible board member.
I don’t know that they would take a bottom line loss… They are doing just fine despit investing BILLIONS upon billions in cloud infastructure. Also there are people a lot smarter than you or I who disagree with this…
Apple doesn’t innovate, it improves upon. The goal is to make money.
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The current pipelines are outdated anyway.
And there’s already a plan that’s been developed to improve internet speed and bandwidth nationally.
Who’s fighting it? Oh, right. The media conglomerates.
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stealing it isn’t your first and only option
No, but if the first option sucks…
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by troymccluresf on Dec 20, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
Here’s one article discussing the matter:
http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2010/01/25/100125ta_talk_surowiecki
The appeal of bundling is partly that it reduces transaction costs: instead of having to figure out how much each part of a package is worth to you, you can make a blanket judgment. Bundling eliminates the problem of fretting about small expenditures, which may be one reason that flat-rate pricing is very common in the vacation industry (cruise ships, all-inclusive travel packages, and so on). It also offers what economists call option value: you may never watch those sixty other channels, but the fact that you could if you wanted to is worth something. Many consumers also perceive bundles as bargains; getting a bunch of things for one price feels like a deal, even when it’s not.
Read more http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2010/01/25/100125ta_talk_surowiecki#ixzz1h7R17Sq5
The real reason IMO is so they can sell more ad space.
This is a device of the provider/service. Most people would choose to view exactly what they want when they want. In fact I would guess that most customers would pay a premium to get only what they want. The option value of channels doesn’t match the satisfaction of getting exactly what I want.
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Counterargument:
Wal-Mart, Target, McDonalds, SUVs… the majority of Americans go big and go quantity all the goddamn time.
Our preferences (meaning, all of us presently involved in this discussion) of media consumption are definitely in the minority. As the older population gets replaced with our contemporaries, everything we’re talking about will become even more relevant. But, for now, the conglomerates don’t have to change, even if they need to change. And their enablers and protectors in Congress will guarantee this status quo for at least another decade.
Our preferences (meaning, all of us presently involved in this discussion) of media consumption are definitely in the minority.
This is very true. I’m 52, but I find that my views on this particular issue place me in the minority. Most of the people in my age demographic want to turn on the TV and be done. I would rather have more individual options and higher quality content. As long as the price/value equation remains reasonable, I’m in. When you want me to pay the same or more for options that require less investment and result in a higher return for the provider, that is where I jump off the wagon.
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This is where the utility of something like MLB.TV is a boon
You have access to every game, and can manage how you wish to view said game at your desire.
I do not care for the other 3 major sports, so every other package fails me, miserably.
Key correction:
Almost every game.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Well, this I do not disagree with
But to me it seems like arguing with two year olds who didn’t get their sundae that they wanted.
So they'll continue to play by the rules of the 20th century
and die. It might take a decade or two but unless they change, they will die.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
But going all the way back to MLB.TV
There’s no reason they can’t sell that ad space. The games are now developed with advertising breaks in mind. SIGH.
This is a true statement, but you can’t sell Panda Hats and Garlic Fries to people at home.
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I would order up some garlic fires if there was a button that delivered me some food.
This is the idea I have been looking for…starts writing patent application
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Only if this delivery mechanism was available when watching porn as well.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
I have a friend working for a start-up who would like to prove you wrong.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I too have a couple of friends who are working at a start-up
Doing similar things. Some of the stuff I’ve seen may not work, but it’s damn impressive.
I.E. clicking on a pair of jeans someone is wearing during a broadcast and having them purchasable via Google Shopping. And this is just the early stage stuff.
There a period when you could do that with select Ads on DirecTV. It’s a little clunky at this point as most people ( and their media equipment ) were not fully integrated in the concept.
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Seems to work decently on YouTube, though I don’t know how that works with payment.
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Pay Pal or CC information stored in your account.
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Huh?
You mean the channel’s account for YouTube partners?
I meant I’m not sure what how ad pricing differs for skippable vs. not-skippable ads.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Yes ? You were talking about ad revenue I ? My mistake… I was in a totally different place.
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I was professing ignorance about how ad revenue is determined and charged, much less how it works with ads you can skip. Are they cheaper? Are ads under a certain length unskippable. It’s a black box to me as an outsider to that aspect of YouTube.
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I would assume based on my general dealings with our media placement folks, that the type (video,audio, static) , placement (prominence, size) and ability to bypass or not would totally determine the cost.
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What I’m mostly curious about is whether they get more money if they viewer doesn’t skip, or if they just number crunch ahead of time to determine how many times a viewer watches the ad all the way through on average and sets the price point based on that.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Not an expert
but I would assume the ad would cost more if you can’t skip it. For example: you navigate to a site and the first thing you see is an ad you cannot skip or bypass. Think MLB Video. When you want to see the highlights you generally have to sit through at least one 15 second ad. Seems that would be worth more to the advertiser than an ad you could bypass.
Audience demographics also determine ad pricing. If everyone on McC is watching Community, and they fit in the target demographic for the advertiser, the ad would cost more to run during community than say Golden Girls.
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I get all that, I’m just unsure of whether pricing for skippable ads is predetermined or dynamic based on data.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I would assume that as most ad pricing, it is based on location, demographic geography, and visibility. For us, the pricing is essentially in “buckets” by type. And it almost always somewhat negotiable based on market dynamics.
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Yep
Our agency uses “inventory” to describe the amount of available media format and where. If the inventory is low, cost is up.
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Yup.
Pretty much this.
Once again, the easier you make it (and the less the consumer has to think about it), the more consumers will pay for it.
Not that people are pirating jeans. Except for Herman, of course.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Oh, and to clarify
I mean consumer will be more willing to pay, not that they will be willing to pay more.
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Ah, see. Most people think it’s easier just to pay for a buttload of channels than to sit down and pick out the ones they actually think they’ll watch. For most people, TV is background noise and making it anything more than that takes all the fun out of it.
That will change in time.
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The idea of a smorgasbord of entertainment is a powerful one.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
This is awesome. I mean, I didn’t come up with the idea, obviously, but when YouTube came out I wanted to be able to click on the image and pull up different things related to what I was seeing. At first, I thought (“well, if they do this, it’ll only be because they want people to buy shit”), but I was thinking more like (“what else has this actress been in?”) and I could click on her face and get her imdb or something.
Technically, Comcast or CSN or NBC Sports or whoever the hell owns the Giants TV contract is entitled to ad revenue generated from Giants’ games. That’s the whole reason why they pay such huge deals. The exclusivity. They make their money on the ad sales.
It’s a conflict of the regional-national variety, and that’s something that will always be a problem no matter how “with the times” people are.
Interesting thing about this
Is that the company that owns the Giants TV contract owns part of the Giants as well.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
Out of curiosity, what do you do?
It seems we’re coming from similar places. At least in terms of information, yours more pragmatic, mine more idealist.
LOL. I'm nothing and nobody.
I’m a secretary. This comm law stuff was the only part of my Communication degree that was interesting.
Ah, okay.
We intersect at Comm Law, which was part of my broadcast communications degree.
Don’t say you’re a nobody. I’m a low level video editor for a print company’s digital side, we’re all just doing our thing til that better thing comes along, regardless of what that thing is.
Which of course is John Carpenter’s interpretation of The Thing.
And if MLB.TV was still allowed to run local ads
A La the radio, that’s an easily reportable revenue source, and you can literally monitor how many people have seen that ad.
They already monitor your zip code.
But I'm not paying Comcast to watch the Giants on MLB.tv,
I’m paying MLB for the opportunity. They’re not going to kick a percentage of that money back to Comcast. And when I watch the Giants on Comcast (though I don’t because I’m in LA), then I’m actually paying Comcast money for the rights to view their content.
Well, that's the rub.
Obviously you could get around this with some of the band-aids I’ve just tossed out there as possibilities somewhere in this comment chain, but it’s a matter of everyone sitting down and discussing things like adults. Won’t happen.
It's the First Rule of Acquisition!
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by Every6thDay on Dec 20, 2011 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
There's just an easy opportunity for everyone to make money here
In everyone else’s ad revenue streams.
WILL DISCUSS MORE LATER. MUST GO HOME.
LOL..same boat..sort of
WILL DISCUSS MORE LATER. MUST GO HOME. FINISH WORKING.
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Right, soooo
If there’s any way for MLB.TV to make the money that it makes, charge a reasonable blackout waiver, and allow ad revenue originally waived by omitting adverts, but running them locally, and selling the data collected from a captive audience… I’d gladly pay for their service.
Oh ! You're back !
I just finished with the work, but am still at the office. So…I think many people would gladly pay for the service.
As an example, my daughter, who is huge Sharks fan, does not have a cable TV package. She signs up for the NHL streaming package through Roku. The season pass costs about $160 bucks, about the same as MLB. She’s all excited, turns on the TV and…no Sharks. She makes a phone call and they tell her " You’re in the blackout zone for the Sharks". She says "I"M IN FREAKING RENO NEVADA !! HOW CAN I BE IN THE BLACKOUT ZONE ! Turns out that DirecTV and Charter both provide CSN-BA so she has to go to them or not watch Sharks games.
Instead of taking her money, they had to abide by the current broadcast rules due to the contracts.
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This is bad…but should be green for truth.
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Do both offer Extra Innings?
HD DVR?
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
uverse does not offer extra innings.
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That would be my deal breaker
I need all of the baseball games.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
Or just taken an old PC and convert it to a media server ? Anything with a Dual or Quad core running XP at a minimum. I do have Win 7 running on a Pentium M Dual Core with 2GB of memory. Pretty good for streaming to a TV.
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Oh, need Cartoon Network.
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I feel like Adult Swim has been pretty meh lately.
And most of their stuff goes up online after premiering for free, anyway.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
They're better than they were for a couple of years
But yeah, other than Children’s Hospital and The Venture Brothers, you rarely find me giving a shit.
Metalocalypse is nice in doses, too.
Never could get into Children's Hospital.
Love the Venture Brothers, but I was pretty underwhelmed with the most recent season. I have seasons 1-3 on DVD; dunno if I’ll be picking up Season 4.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I feel like the comedy started leaking out in season three, and that fact was more apparent in season 4. Season to and early season three was the peak for me.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I prefer set-piece humor as oppose to jokes in general
So maybe that’s why I prefer it, still Season 2 will always likely be the best season.
Oh, I enjoy the situational humor; that’s really what the show is all about, minus the occasional gem (see: the Jupiter suite sequence with 21 and 24).
I just felt like the humor was more sparse in general in Season 3 and especially Season 4.
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Currently the only must watch for me is The Daily Show.
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Junior turns the channel when he sees the Adult Swim warning. It’s “inappropriate”.
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You’ve got him well-trained.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I wish it ended there. Kid gives me a lecture if I crack open a beer. Or a glass of wine with dinner.
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My bosses have a similar problem, even though the girls are like 11 and 13. Not that they should have personal experience with how alcohol affects your body.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
He’s only 10 but he took what they taught him at school to heart. Which is good. It’s just the look he gives me…
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MLB Network is just 1 channel
Do you mean Extra innings OR Mlb.tv?
I use Roku+ MLB.TV since I am out of market. Roku is $50 one time, does other stuff like HBO GO.
Extra innings when I had it 2 years ago, had 1 channel in HD, they would rotate games in and out of it. The advantage is you can use Picture in Picture with a good box (mine comes with it) to flip to other channels at commerical. Flipping Video settings for Roku v Cable Box is tedious by comparison.
I would go with what is cheaper. I think ATT has 250 GB data caps for TV + Internet, so I would be cautious if you have large network requirements. Everyone I know who had ATT Uverse loves it.
Blerg
by Myemail21479 on Dec 20, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
I just wanted to say I have absolutely enjoyed this conversation.
It’s an interesting time we live in, and obviously I can only come from the perspective of being entry level in the industry in some fashion, and watching the panic I see daily.
It’ll all work out in the end. I’m sure MLB, Comcast and the Giants would like some more of my money eventually.
Beltran v Melky
Grant, can I bet you that Melky’s next two years will be better than Beltran’s? More hits, total bases, runs, rbis, whatever?
RBIS!!
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Mayor of Smug.
Yeah, that is a sucker bet
Anyone on the Giants is going to fail in the rib eye department.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
Grant's gonna buy a shit-ton of fish with that money.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Now this is funny
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I’m curious what your basis for that bet is.
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Beltran has had 8 seasons that are better than Cabrera’s best.
Also, Cabrera’s nickname is Leche. Because they also call him Melk Man. Get it?
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UNCLE MELKY!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
Not if you're looking for 100/1 (which you should be).
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hahaha
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Mayor of Smug.
oh.
rafaelrojasc #Rockies agree with Casey Blake, physical pending
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
He’s a lock to do something incredibly irritating to the Giants.
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I really dislike Casey Blake’s face.
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I like it. And I’ve always wanted him to be a Giant. I don’t know why.
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Ew
No more vodka for you.
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My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Seriously
The NL West is a terrible place.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Perfect
He will fit right in.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
OUR DIVISION IS AWFUL
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
BWAHAHAHAHA
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Rockies To Sign Casey Blake bit.ly/t1lDH5 #mlb
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Man, it just keeps getting better and better.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
They all believe the 2012 Mayan rumors of impending doom.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Melky v Beltran
You may be right about RBI’s— and I didn’t factor in Beltran playing for a stronger offense. But my belief is that Melky will hit just as well, for a lot less money.
As a former New Yorker, I’ve seen a lot of Melky, and a pretty decent young player is going to do better over two years than a brittle one in his mid thirties.
by Scott from DC on Dec 20, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
You presuppose that Melky is pretty decent.
Until last year, he wasn’t even league average.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
The stats can be checked—I’d bet he was about league average as a Yankee. I know he was awful in Atlanta. But he used to get clutch hits in New York —and my sense is he’s on an uptrend, moving towards his best years.
by Scott from DC on Dec 20, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
rWAR is a bit more generous to him than fWAR.
And rWAR says he barely swung league average in 2007, but more than half that value was from playing a corner outfield spot. That was his only year prior to 2011. where he was passable. And 2011 was the only year where he was average by wRC+.
There. Checked.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
But he used to get clutch hits in New York
OH! You mean like Jeter!
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
Not like Jeter, but more than any Giant last year
by Scott from DC on Dec 20, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
If the Yanks had Melky clutchness they woulda beat the Tigers last year for sure!
Fuck that Brett Gardner guy
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
ha ha. point taken. Thing is Gardner and Melky were always about the same, and Gardner was a useful player on team which won 97 games with their offense.
by Scott from DC on Dec 20, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
Gardner has been nearly twice is valuable in roughly half the time.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Gardner and Melky are not the same
Gardner is in fact WAY WAY WAY WAY better.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Not to troll
but if we go by fWAR, he’s better than Swisher, and possibly Teixeira.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Not really. For the longest time Torre couldn’t decide which one was better. (I think Torre, maybe Girardi by then.) Then they traded for Granderson. Melky is actually much the better hitter, though w/o the infield hits.
by Scott from DC on Dec 20, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
Oh no
Melky’s never had an OBP better than Gardner
Melky’s only had a better wRC+ than Gardner once
Gardner is the best defensive LF in baseball while melky is a meh corner OF and an awful defensive CF.
Torres not being able to tell who is better is not really any kind of justification for anything.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Go easy on Torres; he's distracted.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I miss him so
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Gardner is definitely better than Melky.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
They can't even claim rib eyes

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
As a former reader of books
I assure you this unwritten idea is way better than this published item.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Pretty decent?
Melky’s best season of his career fWAR wise was last year. Carlos Beltran was better than Melky last year. 4.7 vs. 4.2
Melky’s best season last year, again, 4.2 WAR, would be Carlos Beltran’s 10th best season.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Man,
I have, like, three Yankee fan friends. All of them have called me just to tell me how much I’m going to hate Melky Cabrera.
Mark DeRosa , he had his moments.
by oldjacket on Dec 20, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I know some diehard Yankees fans
And I don’t bring up the Giants’ offseason with them because it always ends with them laughing because of Cabrera.
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Savvy……….Sabean.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
You say you're from DC
Did you recently move here? Say, from, say, maybe, say, Marin?
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I had that same thought.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2011 6:42 PM PST up reply actions
For those that have not re-freshed. Help cover our overlord's ass:
Edit: It should be noted that the McCovey Chronicles Four-Step Method was originally developed by Lefty over a week ago. The idea wormed into my brain, “My Sweet Love”-style, and I apparently absconded with the idea and didn’t give credit. So, please, visit Lefty’s fine blog and encourage him not to sue me. Also, please don’t tell him that I’ve done this before on six separate occasions because then he’ll look for those posts too.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Rec’d for the famous IP case reference.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 20, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
ok time to finally catch up on community and P&R
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
P&R better not be another re-run this week. Sonsabitches...
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I hate everything.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
With a new episode of 30 Rock too
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 20, 2011 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
At least it's coming back in January!
P&R gets awful ratings, but everything on NBC does, so it’s safe for now.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
The Office is going to go soon, 30 Rock will suck as soon as Alec Baldwin’s gone, and almost everything new is a train wreck. I’m not too worried.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Parks and Rec has been exactly as good as always. Last episode of Community was basically the best thing ever.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
If it's truely the last episode ever, it least it went out on top
I’d pay anything to see one more episode mocking NBC though a la Futurama when it came back on Comedy Central and was ruthless toward FOX execs.
They’re still shooting more episodes, but when they’ll air is undetermined.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
they’re prepping them for Regionals
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 20, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
Son of a…. I didn’t have TV!
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
Boopy boopy boop doop sex
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
Golden Gate Beer Bars | Tweetybox
by troymccluresf on Dec 20, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
How can we be downing Huff right now?
It’s the guys birthday. If you have the Giants on your facebook go look at the picture they used of him for it, worth a laugh.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Dec 20, 2011 2:33 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Remeber when?
About a month ago a lot of us were afraid that Sabes was going to sign Coco Crisp and be done with it. As disappointing as this offseason has been so frar at least it hasn’t been as bad as we imagined at one time. If the Cards truly are thinking of signing Crisp instead of Beltran then who is left as a viable option for Carlos?
Toronto? Miami? Yankees? Tigers? I can’t see Carlos wanting to play in obscurity in Toronto (not to mention they have no shot at competing for the playoffs) or the wasteland that is Detroit. I also think that the Yankess are going to continue to target pitching. So, which team is a better fit for Beltran than us?
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I sure hope the Giants are one of the "mystery teams"
With that being said, who the fuck thought of this whole “mystery team” thing? It’s become entirely too ubiquitous.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
That won’t matter, because the Giants don’t want Beltran.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
He drank the last beer and ate all the pizza because he’s a selfish mother fucker and THANK GOD HE’S GONE.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Detroit would make a lot of sense if they hadn’t already signed Victor Martinez for four years to be their DH. Still, they have a strong need in the outfield and are contending.
Philadelphia still has a need in left field and are expected to compete in the postseason again.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
Just drove to clear lake to get a free van that barely runs and doesnt have any seats
also clear lake smells bad
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Dec 20, 2011 2:41 PM PST reply actions
I don’t think lakes come with that option.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
It’s way easier than going door to door to legally inform your neighbors about that whole child molestation conviction.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
I could turn it into a good working(?) utility/tow vehicle! Studio Rental Property.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Unless you’re hispanic, have an awesome mustache, and want to take up gardening, your choices are rapevan and teenage sleuth team transport.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
ruh-ro raggy..
teenage sleuth team transport.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
It wasn't Clear Lake that smelled bad
it was the rancid Scooby snack crumbs.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
clear lake is pretty seedy looking
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
You’re just 3 friends & a dog away from solving supernatural mysteries.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
Just like Bochy always says
“Those blasted kids!”
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
would have gotten away it if it weren’t for them
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 20, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
Clear Lake is a disgusting place, in all senses of the word.
Adopted Giant: Mike Fontenot
He's like Grant, but fun size.
Occasionally, I tweet.
You suck, America
Rebecca Black tops all other YouTube videos in ’11
Rebecca Black’s infamous “Friday” video has topped all other YouTube videos of 2011 with 180 million views.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I’ve still never seen it. It’s my proudest accomplishment in my life so far.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
but you have to see it. It’s like a horrible accident where nobody gets hurt and is somewhat catchy. It’s “the Room” of music videos
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 20, 2011 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
I see it as an educational video that covers the order of four of the seven days of the week.
Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
and ponders the great existential crisis of whether to sit in the front seat or sit in the back seat
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 20, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
This is nothing.
I can’t wait to find out who the next president will be.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, but it was also the second most "disliked" video on YouTube.
Behind Justin Beiber’s “Baby,” of course.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Because it’s cool to dislike them.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
Listened to the Urban/Sabean chat on 95.7 The Game last night
Sabean answered all the big questions.
-With regards to Beltran, he gave the classic 2004 Vlad response.
-With regards to the overall budget, he said they are conserving cash so they can re-sign Timmy and Matt. The typical Larry Baer answer.
-He also seemed to indicate that Joe Panik is the future 2nd baseman. He really talked him up and said he was “surprised” by his AFL play.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
A couple of other things I remember Sabean saying:
- He’s relying on Huff to have bounce back year because the fate of the offense depends on it.
- He anticipates money being made available at the trade deadline, as ownership has never turned him down before.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
I’m starting to hate that— they don’t sign anybody in the offseason because they think they won’t need to then realize that they need somebody and trade half the farm system to gamble for a Beltran, pick up a Freddy, or a Ryan Garko. Maybe if they signed Beltran, they wouldn’t have to trade Panic to get somebody later on?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 20, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
THIS
Having Beltran might add about 65.3 wins before the All-Star break. (don’t check my math. I’m bad at math)
I'm sorry. I couldn't hear you. I still have champagne in my ears.
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LOL SABEAN!
- He’s relying on Huff to have bounce back year because the fate of the offense depends on it.
- He anticipates money being made available at the trade deadline, as ownership has never turned him down before
1. Hope like Hell!
2. You’ve never asked this iteration of the ownership group for money.
3. Why not spend that money now on Beltran and get a full season of him?
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors 4m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Blue Jays Bid $50MM For Darvish bit.ly/tDMeKB #mlb
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
The Jays owner is apparently the wealthiest.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, but that's only like 40 bucks, American.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Odd
Id rather have 4 years of Buerhle that 51 million of “rights” to Darvish
Blerg
by Myemail21479 on Dec 20, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
Is GiantPain here?
I need to write about why I want to go to George Washington.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Perhaps LeftyMalo already wrote something up about that topic and you can steal it from him!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
That’s true, he doesn’t have to bother with Lefty Malo at all…. Just go to Grant and ask for a copy of the stolen material.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
No
That’s Washington University
Proud adoptee of Dick Tidrow the mastermind behind Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain, Buster Posey and many more. Also known as "The Reason".
Why go to GW
Nats games, easy to buy a cheap seat and move up in the fifth inning.
by Scott from DC on Dec 20, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
Something about tradition, educational opportunities
favorable location, distinguished faculty, blah blah
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Because your parents hate having money.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
I'm here now
Do the greatest hits, want to go to school in the city, love Washington DC, really interested in politics/international affairs/whatever.
If you want to be avant guard you could talk up how much you want to do “research” that you think you can do “only at GW”. They’ve been on a “research” kick for a year or two so they’d love that. And “Only at GW” is their favorite phrase.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
OK, cool. Anything else special?
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
If you've had a chance to visit campus or something, mention that
Say you’ve had inspiring conversations with satisfied alumni. You who loves charts and data, right? They’ll like that, mention about how you want to develop that from a passion into a profession or something.
They like people who think that GW is the only place they could possibly be. Convince them of that.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Good luck!
We need more people at the next DC MCC meetup. Roger’s getting bored of my complaining, and we’re all sick of rebooting xanthan.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
So we have the most informative member and two computers? Awesome.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
“Hey, did you go know (random fact no one knows)?”
“Yeah.”
“Oh….”
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2011 7:36 PM PST up reply actions
.

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
Golden Gate Beer Bars | Tweetybox
by troymccluresf on Dec 21, 2011 6:43 AM PST up reply actions
Send the admissions board a picture of your junk
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 6:49 PM PST up reply actions
Preferably with Monta Ellis posing next to it.
Also nude.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Just like Posey!
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 8m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Report: Luck could be signing with CAA wp.me/p14QSB-Jpo
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Not sure if I like this brand of journalism more or less than the old kind.
At least it’s more honest.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
Shift-A
Finished with court
Did I miss anything good?
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Dec 20, 2011 3:46 PM PST via Android app reply actions
Have we talked about
Yuni signing with the Royals for $2 million?
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Dec 20, 2011 3:49 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Yes, and that's the greatest thing ever.
Save us from ourselves!
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
Can't search on mobile
but St Louis looking in Coco Crisp’s way now.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Dec 20, 2011 3:54 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
HEY GAIZ DON'T FORGET TO GO TO THE FANPOSTS AND VOTE FOR THE MCCOVEN AWARDS
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
i thought this was old news:
The Giants have signed right-hander Eric Hacker to a minor league deal, according to the player’s agency
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Guess they are bringing him back. He was in the org in 2010 before going to the Twins org last year.
Is it February 19 yet?
Can't believe I'm the first to make the joke
Can’t have too many hackers!
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Luckily, you're not the first
As he was already in our system once before.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
i went to high school with a guy who had a similar name.
your welcome internet
Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.
by James Westfall on Dec 20, 2011 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
Shift A
Yo, peoples of McCoven. I have been away for a few days, what did I miss?
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
dont ask questions you already know the answer to
you missed nothing….grant has high blood pressure…but besides that nothing.
Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.
by James Westfall on Dec 20, 2011 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
go to the fanposts
vote
general freaking out
lol candlestck
and ouch marty havlat
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Oh, Marty!
Is he out? I heard he got a boo boo, but not if he’s gonna miss games.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
To quote Doug Wilson
He’s going to be out for “an extended period of time.”
It’s the flukiest injury ever. Okay, maybe second flukiest after DeRosa’s wrist exploding while he was standing in the batter’s box. Video here.
Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
The Yunesky bomb has been avoided
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
oh not much

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
yeah, yeah, I saw it.
My sig is yours to command. I do think Falkner acquitted herself well in the final, tho.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Oh, no doubt.
I wanted to try pretty much every dish the both of them made.
I’ll think of a sig for you in a bit. I wasn’t expecting to actually have to think of one, lol.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Will you be watching his first Iron Chef Challenge on Sunday night ? Those Food Network folks are very good marketers.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Obviously.
I want to see what his jacket is gonna look like.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Absolutely!
I need to go back and watch some of the Chopped episodes I missed. I didn’t watch it much this year.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
This season has had some great episodes
The one with the school chefs was pretty great and the one a week after with the yak was really good.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
This season has had some great episodes
There are not many that I do not like from any season. The school chef episode was awesome. I made my daughter watch it. Everybody needed kleenex.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
The “new” Chopped Season starts tonight.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
It's kind of weird they even bother separating it into seasons
Since there’s practically a new episode almost every week.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
True
maybe it’s going to have a different judge to replace Zakarian?
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Funny you should say that
http://twitter.com/gzchef/status/149307375000625152
I would have cried if he left tbh
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I am honestly surprised he is not re-tweeting a response to you :-)
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
LOL
How do these Food Network guys do so many tv shows at once?
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
I guess they can space out the filming for them, but it does seem crazy! But, like, Michael Symon does The Chew every day, Bobby Flay has his shows, etc, so I think Geoffrey can handle doing a few episodes of Chopped a season. Especially since it and ICA are both filmed where he lives.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Budget and scheduling ?
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
why is there a little diddily-doo on the sidebar offering to let me edit “newsletters”?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Because this:
404 Sorry sports fan, we couldn’t find the page you’re looking for…
This page may have moved, or you may have mistyped the address, or even followed a bad link.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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yeah
I got that, but wth is a newsletter on SBN?
and why can’t I subscrine to it?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
subscribe
don’t type with a cat in your lap
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I know
I have a 17-pounder who insists on attention when I am at computer
I am the Giants' Traveling Secretary for all their trips to France ... not.
by I live in Paris and you don't on Dec 20, 2011 4:38 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
My young furry child and I have this problem all of time. We have agreed ( as much as a cat will agree to anything) that he will sit next to me in the chair, but must be able to place his head on the corner of the laptop keyboard.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
cf Pagan
2b Freddy
3b Panda
c Posey
1b Belt
lf Melky
rf Nate
ss BC
ummmmm. . . what did FO do this offseason?
I am the Giants' Traveling Secretary for all their trips to France ... not.
by I live in Paris and you don't on Dec 20, 2011 4:34 PM PST via Android app reply actions
LOL Belt!
Huff is gonna start and we all know it.
Laugh
Unless Pill takes over
I am the Giants' Traveling Secretary for all their trips to France ... not.
by I live in Paris and you don't on Dec 20, 2011 4:39 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
They hoped like hell
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
re fish for Grant
Just watched Iron Chef America. Secret ingredient: tilapia. yum
I am the Giants' Traveling Secretary for all their trips to France ... not.
by I live in Paris and you don't on Dec 20, 2011 4:37 PM PST via Android app reply actions
yes
I am the Giants' Traveling Secretary for all their trips to France ... not.
by I live in Paris and you don't on Dec 20, 2011 4:38 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
they have to cook 5 dishes with tilapia
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
somehow I missed the Iron Chef part of the comment and just read it as the secret ingredient to I live in Paris’s fish recipe is tilapia. I need to go home from work.
WWRWD?
hahaha
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Also the secret ingredient for the Salton Sea.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
CSNBayArea: Cody Ross lowers his demands
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
Sigh,
There are a lot of moving parts in the Giants outfield. This offseason, San Francisco has added outfielders Melky Cabrera and Angel Pagan. They also have Nate Schierholtz and utility players Aubrey Huff and Brandon Belt in the outfield mix.
Maybe Aubrey can play SS.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
no, no, no
Posey to short, Nate to 3rd…
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
LOL Reagins
MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors 4m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Rangers, Napoli Discussing Long-Term Extension bit.ly/u3BdnU #mlb
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
damn it got dark fast
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I paid 16 bucks.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
Not a good shopper
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
WE DON’T HAVE A BONKERS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
Do you have crisps ? How about Bangers ? Had a Yard lately ?
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Banger in the mouth?
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
If you're bored
iPhone app
http://www.yardofale-game.com
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
I’m not that bored.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
All the challenge without the alcohol !
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
While I could use the “Spiritual Well Being”, I think I’ll watch Chopped tonight instead.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
This was a very British comment.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Is it as bad as when I say ‘ta’ and ‘cheers’ to people who serve me? They always look very confused
Sundrendy!
I say ‘cheers’ all the time. People think I’m pretentious.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
No, but it is dangerous these days.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
When you were raised in the Bay Area, using Britishisms can be interpreted that way…
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
My godmother would disown me.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
Has anyone seen this today?! Guess who it is!

Follow me on Twitter @MTLJosh
by Montreal Giants Fan on Dec 20, 2011 4:59 PM PST reply actions
nope.
Follow me on Twitter @MTLJosh
by Montreal Giants Fan on Dec 20, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
It's Mattingly
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Yup!
Did you know already?
Follow me on Twitter @MTLJosh
by Montreal Giants Fan on Dec 20, 2011 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
Donnie Baseball....saw it this morning
The creepy part is all of the kids hiding under his dress.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Grant!
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Have a rec
Follow me on Twitter @MTLJosh
by Montreal Giants Fan on Dec 20, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions
LULZ
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS 2m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
catching up: yuni betancourt got $2M on 1 yr deal with #royals. rare free agent #bargain.
Retweeted by Jeff Sullivan
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Paying Yuni $2 million to not be on the team is a free agent bargain.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
WOW
Hollywood Reporter @THR 17m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Vin Diesel Confirms Seventh ‘Fast and Furious’ Movie j.mp/vTY8GL
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
7 Fast 7 Furiousestestestest
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
What's even more sad
is that people will go see it.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
But the fact that it took five movies before they got it right kinda proves my point.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
No, that people saw the first four in large enough crowds to keep prompting sequels,
regardless of quality.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
A sequel is basically guaranteed 70% of the previous movie’s receipts, so yeah, they’ll keep making them regardless of quality.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
I’m waiting for Rocky 54
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I meant regardless of the quality of the predecessor.
God, this franchise sucks! Can’t miss this one!
It’s the same reason I’m baffled as to the prominence of Nickelback, given how nobody I have EVER met in person publicly admits to liking them.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
The last one was pretty good.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 6:05 PM PST up reply actions
Fast Five was a great heist movie, actually.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I thought they were on like, 4.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2011 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
Five, I believe.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Here's a franchise that had no appeal to me when I was in its target demographic
Now that I’m out of it, I still don’t get it.
Oscar for Diesel in 2016...
BOOK IT!
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
Supposedly coming in 2013
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1905041/
God Bless Google
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
You’re ahead of me. I didn’t pay attention to any of them.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
Old but still good
Today Now! Interviews The 5-Year-Old Screenwriter Of “Fast Five”
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
beltran is going to sign for 2/10 with the cardinals
and the front office is going to cry poor
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Dec 20, 2011 5:56 PM PST reply actions
good riddance
but I would like Wheeler back
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
Good riddance? That doesn’t even make sense.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Because he’s great and he was great for the Giants.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
i disagree
but it sounds like that is not an acceptable position
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
It’s unacceptable without evidence to support it, yes.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
He hit for a 151 wRC+ last year and put up 4.7 fWAR. The Giants could use a player like that on the team.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SF IBB Awards
2011 34 TOT NL 142 598 520 78 156 39 6 22 84 4 2 71 88 .300 .385 .525 .910 152 273 18 3 4 7 AS, MVP-20
2011 34 NYM NL 98 419 353 61 102 30 2 15 66 3 0 60 61 .289 .391 .513 .904 150 181 9 2 4 6
2011 34 SFG NL 44 179 167 17 54 9 4 7 18 1 2 11 27 .323 .369 .551 .920 156 92 9 1 0 1
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 12/20/2011.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
it is not…join me in the doghouse….I have a nice Charlie Brown tree and a tv with rabbit ears…
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
ot
speaking of xmas, a neighbor said something about an Advent Calendar, and I froze like a deer in the headlights, not knowing what such a thing was, and thinking it had something to do with Seventh Day Adventist Church. Google set me straight, but am I the only one who has no such knowledge of the Avent Calendar?
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
My kids only know the Trader Joe’s kind that gives them a chocolate every day while they count down to Christmas.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
/Michael Williams lego rant
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
it's from Community
I just watched it today but I don’t remember how it went
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Is that the one from that episode that sucked?
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
idk
it was from the episode where they all wanted to be lab partners with each other but then they didn’t and then they got mad that they were ranked lowest and then they were all friends again
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Yeah, I hated that episode. At the end, it was like haha we’re fucking terrible people fuck you
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
it was okay i guess
it wasn’t great
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Season 3 got much better after the first three episodes.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
good
I’m on the fourth!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
OFFENSE TAKEN!
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 20, 2011 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
I wish I could get a set of about 30 lego people without having to take out a loan to do so.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
It’s obscene how expensive they are.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
No kidding. They’re like, what, $4 each, thereabouts?
With that being said, my kids do have a ton.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
my goal is to have enough so that each kid in the class can have their own person that they are responsible for, I’ll write their name on the shirt in Sharpee or something…
I’ve done this thing the past few years where each kid has a lego brick with their name on it, they can save, for the next day, anything they build so long as their brick is on it. That’s worked really well, and they usually make cars, so having a people for each car would be cool.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
If I wasn’t so freakin’ cheap, I’d get those for my kids.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
you may be!
We always had the ones with the little windows you open up each day and really awful chocolate candies inside each window.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I’m Jewish, but with the chocolate, I surely should have known about this!
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
Ours only had prayers or bible verses in them. Stupid parents. Of course, having only one piece of candy would have precipitated actual violence amongst my siblings, so maybe they knew what they were doing.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
We always got Playmobile advent calenders, because I was absolutely obsessed with them when I was little. I ended up having five different Santa dolls at one point, along with multiple sleighs, two dozen reindeer, and a shit ton of elves.
Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
We stood around the calendar and said the prayers. As a reward, we were given not-beatings.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
I’m being melodramatic. But we did have to stand around and read the verses, and then we would light a candle on the Advent wreath.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
I don't get people who feel this way about Beltran :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
well, he’s half a player, albeit a very good one-half
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
how is he half a player?
his defense is not so bad as to call him “half a player”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
My approach is
if the Giants get him, I will be happy. If they don’t, I’ll remind myself how much time he spends on the DL.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
…and Wheeler spends in the Mets organization.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
half a player
because you need another player to fill in when he’s hurt or lagging
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
so, it’s kind of like a platoon—you need to be planning ahead with two players for the one spot
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
His name is Nate.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
$5 million per season would really piss me off. But I guess they needed two LOOGYs
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
HIGH LEVERAGE SITUATIONS!
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
any MCC house lawyers here?
I have a tenant law question
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
I managed an apartment building.
Not a lawyer, but I know several. Ask away, off-line, if you want.
by mrs. owlcroft on Dec 20, 2011 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t see your email listed; can you shoot me an email?
I had a 1yr lease that lapsed into month-to-month, and I think my landlord is changing the terms of the lease along with a rent increase, but he’s not providing a lease extension. Trying to figure out what my obligations are. thanks!
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BRIENNE
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
DAMPHAIR
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 20, 2011 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
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11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 20, 2011 6:11 PM PST reply actions
Speaking of cats on a keyboard.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Yes?
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2011 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
LOL.
Nailed it.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 20, 2011 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
Oops! Sorry!
Kitten jumped on my laptop.
YOU’RE PAYING ATTENTION TO ME NOW!
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 20, 2011 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
The Rockies
The Rox have money to sign Cuddyer to for $30 Mill, and they get like 20K fans per night at Coors Field, not too mention their a small market and didn’t just win the WS. Oh yeah, they have bank tied up in Tulo and various players too, so it’s not like they’re cheap. They have a payroll only about 30 mill less than the Giants and they’re one of the lowest revenue teams!
http://giantsbaseballblog.blogspot.com/
The Rockies averaged nearly 36,000 people per game last year.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 20, 2011 6:17 PM PST up reply actions
Ok off by a lil, but the Giants kill them in total team revenue, not even close. Not gonna waste my time looking for stats or anything, but I’ll bet $100,000 the Giants make more money than Colorado, significantly!
http://giantsbaseballblog.blogspot.com/
I’m watching Simpsons
10th season.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Oh boy
The Warriors and guard Monta Ellis are being sued by a former employee for sexual harassment.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I’ll say it again: chicks don’t want to see a dude’s junk on their phone screen. It’s not a good wooing technique.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
Plus it makes the screen all smudged
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not sure why someone would think that context-free junk would be a good idea. It’s like context-free statistics; Fresco Thompson might have hit .282/.331/.395 one year, but that was in 1930 in the Baker Bowl, so it was only good for a 70 OPS+.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
really
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
wat
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
Sabean signs Fresco Thompson?
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
omg
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Dec 20, 2011 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
OT: Rate My X-Fest Gift to the Lady
So the last of my packages for holiday gifts has arrived. Having had a budget limitation placed over me, I’ve decided to turn up the charm and give the “Will always remind me of you no matter what” collection. I’ll be taking her to sushi, and while we’re not going to be formally dressed, I believe the term to be used will be “Moderately Zazzy”
THE LIST
A hand-drawn card of the Sutro Tower threatening to eat everyone and everything:Starting off, when we first started spending time together, she lived in Twin Peaks, just down the street from the Sutro Tower. We’d sit on the porch, look at the stars when we could and wonder when the Sutro Tower would finally come to life and lay waste to all of us. She seems to think it’ll stomp us, I think it’s going to eat us.
A bottle of Cupcake Cabernet Sauvignon: This bottle of red was the first bottle of wine I brought over the first time she made me dinner.
A copy of Cat’s Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut: One by one we have been exchanging our favorite books over time, however I haven’t been able to give her my favorite novel (non-graphic, that’s Bone) since I had given my copy of Cat’s Cradle to one of my best friends who moved to Brooklyn. That changes now, she gets a copy of her own to keep and do with what she will.
A copy of and indie graphic novel named “Black Metal”: The lady’s a little grim pagan black metal gal, I figured this was a cute way of acknowledging that, while giving her something I almost guarantee she’s never seen before. It could possibly suck, who knows? Point is, it fits the theme.
Tins of Assorted Loose Teas: This one’s easy. We’re often in herb and tea shops, and have collectively been in them more in the past 365 than I have in my entire life prior. And I grew up in Santa Cruz.
A copy of “The Dark Crystal”: And the centerpiece. When we first met, we were working in an adjoining pair of restaurants, one a sandwich place (her) and the other a pizza place (me). In the shared kitchen I was bullshitting with my friend and co-worker about the Dark Crystal, and how Henson had spent so much time delighting, enchanting, and teaching children with the use of puppets, muppets, etc. That it was high time he frightened the little fuckers, and that’s why he designed the Skeksis. She was over in the corner of the room laughing her ass off and dropped a bus tray full of dishes into the sink. I swooned immediately, hah, and she didn’t. But a couple years later, here I am grabbing a copy of the Dark Crystal. But we’ve also been needing a copy forever, and have joked about how she needs a copy that can magically turn into a dvd player and take it wherever she goes.
So, I don’t know about you guys, but given the constraints I think I did well. I usually do well, but I think I’ve outdone myself.
Just send her a picture of your junk.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2011 6:28 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Vonnegut = instant 10/10
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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Well, duh.
Have a Goodbye, Blue Monday tattoo. Since I’m a hipster like that. (Or maybe Vonnegut’s my favorite author, to the point that I wish I could go to Tralfamadore)
this will be remembered when the revolution comes.
valuable information.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
If you had budget limitations, you should have just given her Emmanuel Burriss and hoped like hell that it worked.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
by El Person on Dec 20, 2011 6:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Send her a pic of Monta Ellis' junk
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It will probably shoot too much also
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
We still haven’t decided what, if anything we are doing this year. We usually go for concert tickets, or sporting events but we’re kinda meh on that. Maybe a makeup trip to Yosemite, since we were both sick for the last one.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Well, the big idea is that we're both going to London, next year, for a concert
as a sequel to the amazing time I had this past year. Amazing, but lacking. Sigh.
Schulman is blabbing on CSN right now
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His projected opening day lineup
Pagan CF
Sanchez 2b
Pablo 3b
Posey C
Huff 1b
Cabrera RF
Schierholtz LF
Crawford SS
Pitcher
So much fail..
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Sanchez "hopes" to be ready by opening day
Didn’t he say that in ‘10 and didn’t end up with the team until June?
Had more problems when he first came over from Pitt too!
I love the guy, just can’t trust him to stay healthy and boy had they better have a better backup plan than Fontenot and Burris if Sanchez can’t go. A big reason why Cuddyer would have made sense. Or Hairston…. Maybe worth an invitation to Willie Harris, or Carlos Guillen to spring training if they’ll take it.. Wouldn’t offer either guaranteed $$ though.
What about Pill at 2nd? Had 5 E’s in 220 chances in Fresno at 2nd! If he can master 2nd, and be serviceable in left this spring, this kid HAS to make the opening day roster! Kid actually outplayed Belt last year but nobody mentions it.
http://giantsbaseballblog.blogspot.com/
You know where a great place to master a middle infield position is?
The majors.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
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Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
LOL.
Man, it’s going to be bittersweet when Brett Pill is exposed for what he is and we all move on. It’s going to be worse when it’s July and he’s still playing, because he plays the game right and is in the best shape of his life.
The next McCovey meet up will be fun when we’re all making fun of Pill and Huff being in the best shape of their lives while hitting .240/.267/.309
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
A bitter pill indeed.
I hope he blogs about it.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
BUT EVERYONE IS IN THE BEST SHAPE OF THEIR LIVES
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
LOL BELT
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
Playing Nate over Belt might be one of the dumbest thing this FO has ever done
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Yeah, because they really need Huff’s bat in the lineup.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
I've resigned myself to Huff playing because of the salary
That is not the case with Nate
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I sure as hell hope
they have Huff on the shortest possible leash.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
WORM!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 20, 2011 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
So Cabrera is forcing Nate to left? Does he at least have a good arm?
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
Cabrera should play LF if all 3 of those guys have to be in
At the very least, pretty good outfield defense, no?
Sure.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 6:51 PM PST up reply actions
So take those guys, Belt at 1st, Sanchez at second, Crawdad at short, Panda at third and Posey catching. I mean, if we’re gonna suck, we may as well have non-shitty defense out there to save face.
I hadn't thought of it before
but a defensive lineup of:
Posey – C
Belt – 1B
Sanchez – 2B
Panda – 3B
Crawford – SS
Beltran – LF
Torres – CF
Nate – RF
would be pretty epic.
WWRWD?
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 20, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
Sanchez’s defense declined last season.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 10:55 PM PST up reply actions
It was below average in less than a half-season’s worth of chances.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Well it’s not going to get any better with his shoulder problem. I would assume reckless diving for baseballs is a thing of the past.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
Well it’s not going to get any better with his shoulder problem.
We don’t know this. The penalties against him appeared to be a product of range, which is partially a matter of distribution any (as we saw with Huff in right field).
I would assume reckless diving for baseballs is a thing of the past.
I wouldn’t really consider his defensive style reckless, least of all on the play where he injured himself.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Sanchez is known as a player who plays hard and gives it his all. He’s known to throw his body around. He’s not fast or a good jumper or athletically gifted or anything. His style of play on defense is what distinguishes him from others. I’d say his play overall has been on the reckless side. There were articles written after his most recent injury where this was mentioned.
His range will be affected by his shoulder. If he goes back on the field and starts diving for balls like he used to, he’ll be risk re-injury. I anticipate more cautious play from him.
He’s also 33, so it’s expected that his range will start to decline some regardless of his shoulder problems. 2011 could have been a sign of this.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
He’ll have had 9 months to re-hab the injury. We don’t know how strong or not it will be at this point.
You’re right, 2011 might have been a sign of this. I just wish it didn’t take two replies to distill down to a statement that’s logically defensible.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Wait
Why the hell is Cabrera in RF? Belt?
Dammit.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Get on your knees Giants fans, and pray Tebow style

Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
Sounds about right
I think Melky and Nate will switch positions, but hey, no Belt!
/cries in a corner
yay
my dog gave me enough notice to get him outside before he barfed
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Why is there a bowl
in honor of Brady’s beef?
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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by CalBear949 on Dec 20, 2011 7:54 PM PST via Android app reply actions
Chopped time!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
did Grant post a new entry?
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Dec 20, 2011 8:02 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Bigger than I thought it’d be…but yeah, my reaction to this off season.
Matt Cain, Tim Lincecum, and Madison Bumgarner,
L2WIN.
FFFFFFFfff...
Wow the Conlin stuff is disgusting.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Yeah
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
That... must have been a lot of work.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Cabo sucks. That is all.
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It’s probably fine if you want to drink. If you want to do anything other than drink, good luck.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
San Jose del Cabo isn’t so bad. Personally I would rent a car and drive up to Todos Santos. The wife and I spent our honeymoon driving around the Baja peninsula.
by BestHyperboleEver on Dec 21, 2011 8:40 AM PST up reply actions
GiantPain posted this earlier
http://me.raccoonfink.com/sbnation-black-list-browser-extension/
And it really works! I no longer have to read anything from that Brisbee character.
I HATE YOUR FACE!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 21, 2011 6:45 AM PST up reply actions
Just in case you guys haven't seen this
Matt Cain, Tim Lincecum, and Madison Bumgarner,
L2WIN.
FFFFFFFfff...
OT hip hop
Common beating Drake’s ass in Sweet
My adopted son, Brandon Crawford. Dude hits grand slams and plays defense.
LOL thanks.
Pretty good trailer.
Matt Cain, Tim Lincecum, and Madison Bumgarner,
L2WIN.
FFFFFFFfff...
It’s green.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 11:09 PM PST up reply actions
St. Louis Post-Dispatch:
All-Star Carlos Beltran is expected to select his next team this week, a source familiar with his plans said.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 11:02 PM PST reply actions
Mozeliak left open the possibility with recent comments that the club could look at other positions, including first base, for a lineup boost with Berkman remaining in right field to start the season.
Carlos Pena.
Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 20, 2011 11:07 PM PST up reply actions
How familiar with Beltran’s plan? An acquaintance or a friend?
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Dec 20, 2011 11:10 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Cardinals make sense
That’s where I think he signs
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Coco needs to jump on that shit, ASAP.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
my new kitten, madison

McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Dec 20, 2011 11:11 PM PST reply actions
not "sadison"
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Dec 20, 2011 11:11 PM PST up reply actions
Stop the Carlos Beltran sales pitch. I hope that he signs elsewhere.
by ExPFCWintergreen on Dec 20, 2011 11:27 PM PST reply actions
If you're quasi-agoraphobic, like me,
but still think stars are super-badass, this website is very cool. Sky-Survey
Will open in new window.
Matt Cain is better than you, but apparently not cool enough for Showtime.
by homegrowntalent on Dec 20, 2011 11:33 PM PST reply actions
BurLOLingame
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 21, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions

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