Winter Meetings Preview, Now With More Edgardo Alfonzo
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 2, 2011 1:06 PM PST
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PrintThe headline of a post over at Amazin Avenue:
Edgardo Alfonzo Left Off Hall Of Fame Ballot
You may also remember similar posts such as "Man Has Thumbs," "Car Needs Gas To Run," and "Cap'n Crunch Tears the Absolute Crap Out of the Roof of Area Person's Mouth." At least, that's what it feels like to Giants fans. Of course Edgardo Alfonzo was left off the Hall-of-Fame ballot. He was disqualified after he admitted to being Edgardo Alfonzo. That sort of stigma sticks with you for years.
But for Mets fans, Alfonzo was one of those players. Comparable players for us might be Jack Clark, Robby Thompson, or Matt Williams -- they leave our team, but they never leave … our hearts. If Matt Williams were left off the Hall ballot, we'd notice. It would merit a mention.
For Giants fans, Alfonzo was a guy who came over and didn't do anything. Like, he didn't do anything -- he'd just stand around and wait for people to bring him coffee and foodstuffs. Then he was traded for Steve Finley, who is literally the worst person on the planet. Literally. Alfonzo was ostensibly the replacement for Jeff Kent in the middle of the order, though he technically replaced Bill Mueller at third. Kent will probably make the Hall of Fame. Mueller made the same ballot that Alfonzo didn't. Mistakes were made.
Right before the Winter Meetings is a good time to point out, though, that the 2002/2003 offseason was almost one of my favorite Brian Sabean offseasons. At the time, at least. Jeff Kent was going to be 35, and he played a position where players didn't age well. Giving him a big deal would have been lunacy. The Astros broke down and gave him $17.5 million over two seasons. Why, that's almost Renteria money! No thanks, I thought at the time.
Alfonzo was coming off an age-28 season in which he hit .308/.391/.459, good for his third OPS+ over 125 in four years. He could play second, and he was in the prime of his career. That was master stroke #1.
Ray Durham was a bit older at 30, but he had a career on-base percentage of .352, and it was trending upward in the seasons leading up to his free agency. He was a good player, signed for a reasonable price. And he was an iron man, with seven straight seasons of 150 games or more. That was master stroke #2.
Marquis Grissom was a player who was aging horribly until a career power year with the Dodgers, and the Giants signed him to a two-year deal when he was 36. Horrible move, but when replacing the bat of Tsuyoshi Shinjo, the standards were low. I got over the move quickly.
We all know what happened: Alfonzo was adequate for a little bit before falling off a cliff, Durham was good when healthy, which was rarely. Grissom was the best signing of the bunch, although his defense negated some of his value. The 2002/2003 offseason was the beginning of the end, though we didn't really know it yet. The Giants won 100 games in 2003, followed by 91 in 2004 and 75 in 2005. It's not like the difference was entirely the fault of Alfonzo's disappointing production or Durham's fragility, but the team did count on those two players to anchor 25% of the offense, and the Giants declined to be too active in the markets that followed because of the commitments already in place.
But, again, I loved the offseason between the 2002 and 2003 seasons. It made me so optimistic for the team's future. And when Todd Linden was ready, boy, things were going to be wild.
Which is all to say: I'm a moron. I was wrong, and how. This isn't news. You've been wrong yourself, smart face. It happens to us all. Sometimes it happens more often to goateed and surly general managers, but it happens to us all. We'll be wrong again.
This is important to remember because you'll need to keep that grain of optimism in your brain for whatever stupid move the Giants make next week. Just remember that Grissom worked out and Alfonzo didn't. The 36-year-old with the horrific OBP coming off a fluke season was a positive addition. The 28-year-old former All-Star signed through his peak years was a dud. Baseball is drunk. It always has been. Remember that.
So whatever happens, it might work out. Or, if you're overly thrilled with a move, remember that it could explode in your face. Remember, this site would have gone goofy for Nick Johnson if he had accepted the Giants' offer. Aubrey Huff was something that washed up in high tide. Sometimes, bad moves work. Or they were good moves, and you were just wrong. And sometimes the good moves fail. The important thing to remember is to freak out right away the second you read the news. That's where the good, honest analysis comes from.
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People get pissed off about Freddy,
they forget that fragile 2nd basemen are a Giants staple.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
I'm still pissed off about Bill Mueller
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by nvsfg on Dec 2, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
rec'd
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Dec 3, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
Up until he fell off a cliff in 2007, he was a 3.something fWar player in every season with the Giants
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 2, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
And the 2007 season was the first season of a new 2-year contract.
I liked Durham. He was good. Frequently injured, but good.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
Plus he starred in one of the greatest Giants TV commercials ever:
“G-String?”
[Durham smiles bemusedly]
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
He averaged 531 PA a year in his time as a Giant. Sadly, I’d be pretty happy if we got that from Sanchez next year.
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 2, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
Sabean seems to have a thing for good but frequently injured second basemen in their 30s.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
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and that eventually paid off!
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"Orlando before Zod" doesn't have the same nice ring to it.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 2, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
It was funny when Alfonzo hit two homers in the first month of the ’05 season and never hit another homer the rest of the year.
If by “funny” you mean “not at all funny”, then yes.
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by Kitspool on Dec 2, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Good process sometimes leads to bad moves
But I’ll take good process over whatever the hell process the Giants use when deciding to sign a FA.
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by DFARowand on Dec 2, 2011 1:13 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
I’ll take net good moves for the team, regardless of “process.”
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Good process over time leads to better results over time.
But sure.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
What part of that isn’t completely intuitive? “Doing things right tends to equal doing things better”
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
I thought intuition was a straw hat thing to be shunned around here. And didn’t we have a discussion about being “right” and how ineffectual it can be in the last thread?
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
I wasn’t saying that it wasn’t a questionable statement. I was just shocked that GWC found it unintuitive. It seems like the kind of thing that the “gut” would almost always tell somebody is true.
I’m not great defender of intuition. If I were, I’d be a much greater defender of Bochy. It was just surprising in this case.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
I was joking. Like my gut was leading me towards a bad result since following it is a bad process.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 2, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Interesting….
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
Define ‘right’ in the absence of results.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
In this sense, it's
“with the correct justification”.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
It is what it sounds like. That’s the whole point of intuition and gut.
I am not saying that it’s true. I’m saying that it’s intuitive.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
basically
(Well, it was 5, but close enough.)
Also, Ray hit a dinger in his first AB as a Giant! I forgot that!
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 2, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
Here it is
ACPressSusan_L Susan Lulgjuraj
That would be Darren Ford … trying to get confirmation RT @MrszBeautifull: BIG BRO JUS GOT TRADED TO THE MARINERS
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Ichiro
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Done and done.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
I'm hiding under the desk praying I don't hear the name Chone Figgins
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Kevin Cash?
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Cash Warren?
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Cash Cab
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Cash Money Millionaires
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Am I not my brothers keeper ?
Original CMB
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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I had a friend nicknamed “Pookie”. Even after Chris Rock’s character he still hung onto that name.
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I'm sure that got old.
“Oh you mean Pookie like-”
“Yeah that one.”
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SCOTTY !!! YOU GOTTA SAVE ME ! THEY"RE GONNA KILL ME !
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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John R Cash
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"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
I went with cash because of the Edgar Renteria theory about players who get traded for cash.
Is it February 19 yet?
by j14 on Dec 2, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
Cash considerations or a PTBNL.
Either that or a bag of batting practice baseballs.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 2, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
The more relevant question
Who around here is familiar with their 28-year-old non-prospects?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
Their farm system isn’t as bad as you might think for a team that just graduated Michael Pineda and Dustin Ackley, but I doubt there’ll be any kind of worthwhile return from Ford.
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 2, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
I’m just going to go ahead and assume it’s a straight up swap for Nick Franklin. That delusion will make my day brighter for at least a little while.
by BestHyperboleEver on Dec 2, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
AREA PERSON!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 2, 2011 1:16 PM PST reply actions
If I remember correctly, Alfonso just sucked for most of the year and then picked it up towards the end of the year and was the only one who hit in the playoffs. To the tune of .529/.556/.765 and an OPS of 1.320. That was better than Barry and considering how the offense fell off a cliff that series, something worth tipping some sort of hat to
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 1:16 PM PST reply actions
One of those beer hats, but instead of beer, the hats are filled with cans of crab juice.
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Sadly there were times in the playoffs where I said to myself, “oh thank God, Alfonso’s up. We might get a hit here.”
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
This is correct
There isn’t anything more he could have done in the 2003 playoffs to carry the Giants on his back other than play RF.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 2, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
He also hit 306 with 54 RBI after the All Star Break (sorry, all I could find was Straw Hat stats)
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
He also had a freakishly low BABIP his first year as a Giant. There really was every reason to believe he would rebound…but clearly that didn’t happen.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
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Specifically, a .257 BABIP.
His career BABIP was around .300.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
But if his back was hurting...
…it stands to reason that he wasn’t hitting the ball as hard
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting.
His BABIP went back up in later seasons with us, but he still sucked.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
A brimless beanie. It has no brim to hold onto, and when you tip it, it slouches.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
Edgardo Alfonzo carried on his back against the Marlins in that 2003 playoffs. I believe he hit over .500.
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by rxmeister on Dec 2, 2011 1:19 PM PST via mobile reply actions
And the proof is above!
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by rxmeister on Dec 2, 2011 1:19 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Wow. Everything I said in my post was said by someone else, only way better.
/ logs off I phone goes back to talking dirty to SIRI
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by rxmeister on Dec 2, 2011 1:24 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Doesn’t Matt Williams deserve a moment of consideration for the HOF? Shouldn’t there be more third basemen in the HOF?
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Probably not. Probably.
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WORLD CHAMPION MONTREAL EXPOS
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 2, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
That was a really, really good team.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
Four starting pitchers with ERA+ over 120. Five relievers with ERA+ over 110. Larry Walker and Moises Alou with OPS+ over 150.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
Young Rueter & Fassero. John Wetteland. Wasn’t Mel Rojas somehow related to Felipe?
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"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
his nephew
Mel Rojas Jr. was drafted in 2010. If he makes that majors, that’ll be three generations of the family. The only other examples of that I can think of are the Boones and the Bells.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
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Speaking of Fassero
This just showed up in my Twitter feed http://pic.twitter.com/3zFGBJcw
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The last thread had the 1994 Expos & random Giants players of the 80s & 90s in it. It felt wrong without you.
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Sad.
MARK LEONARD PAT SHERIDAN BILL BATHE
There you go.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
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Matt Williams has like 25 less career WAR than Ron Santo, and 15 less than Darrell Evans. So I’ll have to go with rotorueter here.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
But those two are in the top 15 in WAR for the 3B position. If that’s the measuring tool, then they should be in the HOF.
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"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
I’m not saying Williams belongs, but not putting him on the ballot completely would be insulting.
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
But if he goes on the ballot, it will devalue the truly deserving candidates, like Lenny Harris, Todd Zeile, and Shane Reynolds.
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definitely
There are fewer third basemen in the HOF than any other position, and both of them should be probably be in. Bill James has called Darrell Evans the most underrated player in history.
Matt Williams, on the other hand, is a Hall of Very Good player.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
Shouldn’t there be more third basemen in the HOF?
Perhaps there should be. The ones in there however are very good.
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Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
If memory serves correctly, George Kell kept Ted Williams from a triple crown one year by beating him in AVG by less than .001
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 2, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
The 36-year-old with the horrific OBP coming off a fluke season was a positive addition. The 28-year-old former All-Star signed through his peak years was a dud. Baseball is drunk. It always has been. Remember that.
Reminds me of last year. I thought we were going to be stacked. Ross, Burrell and Torres in the OF was going to be 40-50 homers, tons of walks and above average defense, better when Nate went in for Burrell. Panda, Huff and Posey would add another 60 homers and be a sweet 3-4-5. Sanchez and Tejada were reasonable, and Tejada only had to hit above water in the 8 spot. Then 2011 happened and it all went to shit.
I am excited for your young guys. I should sing more praise to the brain trust learning how to fill the top 50 prospects under 25 years old full of Giants. Drafting and raising players has made the Giants a contender.
by Myemail21479 on Dec 2, 2011 1:21 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I never liked Alfonzo and was always wary of the deal...
…for no better reason than a Mets fan I knew warned me he would disappoint. And then Armando Benitez came along and I wanted the Giants to have NOTHING to do with ex-Mets, EVER.
Although, it’s funny in retrospect that Alfonzo’s 4/$24 million deal was considered an albatross, when the Rowand and Zito deals weren’t even a gleam in Brian Sabean’s tire-kicking eyes.
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
He was already having back issues too, right?
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They only got really bad after all that team carrying he did in the playoffs, though.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
He never struck me as fun to watch
Maybe because his facial expressions and body language seemed to “meh”. Durham at least had that cute little-kid smile.
I’m a sucker for jolly guys like Panda.
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting.
Also....
as much as I loved the 2003 team and as much as Game 3 still hurts when I cough really loudly, I’m still amazed that team won 100. The previous three Giants’ teams were so much better (ie, no Sydney Ponson and with Robb Nen)
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 1:22 PM PST reply actions
The best offensive team I ever saw
Had Burks, Kent, Bonds in the lineup. Galaraga doing big cat things. Snow and Aurillia as 20 home run threats.
When Kent and Nen left… it was not the same.
And as I recall, that was at AT&T. So why in the hell is there this notion that hitters don’t want to play here?
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Because Sabean keeps repeating that everytime someone asks him why he didn’t bother to offer an offensive player a contract.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 2, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t always agree with Lars The Wanderer, but when I do, I prefer to agree with Lars The Wanderer about this. And outer space.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
As I recall it was durring the Balco\Steroids era
Not to say they all juiced, I just know 1 did.
Also, ATT doesn’t kill power to RH hitters like it does lefties. Snows power faded after 2000. Bonds was special. Burks, Kent, Aurillia, Big Cat were all RH hitters.
Huff in 2010 had his “post its” for the bombs ATT took away in RF. If they could board up the wall and keep observers, that would be really cool, and probably take away some of that bias.
if Huff did that for everytime a 2nd baseman took a hit away, the entire clubhouse would be decorated in post-it notes
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
Gap hitters can still hit that triples alley. ATT giveth, ATT taketh.
Also, Giants don’t win with offense anymore, they win with pitching and squeezing runs across.
Maybe they’d score more runs if they had more dietary fiber.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
I loved the Alfonzo sign. I still don’t regret doing it.
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what about his being banged up for the previous two seasons? I remember people thinking Sabea screwed up on that one and was another gritty vet type signing
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
You wouldn’t have been ok with 4 years of what he did the previous year?
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Just remembering what was being said back then and the fact that the Mets gave up on him in part because he was banged up a lot
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
alt.sports.baseball.sf-giants was thrilled with the signing.
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So did I. Watched him everyday with the Mets and hated his guts because he was always getting big hits for them. He killed us in the 2000 playoffs. Two run HR off of F.Rod in game two and that game tying hit off of Nen in game three. I was so happy he was a Giant I bought his jersey and wouldn’t even take it off when they were looking for a child molester in an Alfonzo jersey in our neighborhood! After all, his jersey said Mets!
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by rxmeister on Dec 2, 2011 1:29 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
What did the sign say?
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
“You’ve got to have a membership card to get inside.”
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
“And the sign said “Long-haired freaky people need not apply”
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Well played, sir!
Paying Willie Bloomquist $4.6 million, the rumored amount of the Giants' offer, is a bad idea. The whole idea of letting Bradon Crawford run free at shortstop, bat be damned, is to get top-notch defense at rock-bottom prices and spend the cash on offense. Not on Willie Bloomquist.
-El Lefty Malo
Important words
Baseball is drunk. It always has been. Remember that.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
Baseball is drunk
Doesn’t mean you want your GM to be.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I mean, if he was openly drunk all the time
I could sort of get behind it in a, “let’s watch this train wreck unfold” sort of way.
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"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
Flappy update!
DeRosa, 36, said that the Nationals, Rangers, Indians, Pirates all have spoken with his surgeon. He also said that the Giants have expressed interest in bringing him back, even though he did not give them the expected return on a two-year, $12 million free-agent contract.
http://mlbbuzz.yardbarker.com/blog/mlbbuzz/derosa_looking_for_opportunity/8472313?new_post=true
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
LOL!
More flappy!
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
After the way he hit at the end of 2011, we should probably change that nickname to “flippy” . Dude could barely hit the ball out of the infield.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Like saying that Bernie Madoff clients did not get their expected return...
he did not give them the expected return on a two-year, $12 million free-agent contract
Did he get the latest tendon problem fixed?
He was rehabbing it before, but he was going to get it reattached right?
In the latest surgery, they just replaced it with a rubber band.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
DeRosa is a smart player
His tools were gone when we had him though. I remember reading something somewhere that one of the pitchers (madbum?) asked him about a situation. The pitcher went up to the plate and smashed a hit, which scored some runs. Wow what a lame non descript story.
Point is, guy knew the game. He played mentally better than players with less tools than the superstars. Great clubhouse guy.
I’d be cool with him 1 year for the minimum.
If only all of our players had talked to him before all of their at bats!
DeRosa’s magic hittin’ good sauce could have gotten us another ring.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
by GiantPain on Dec 2, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 2, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
DeRosa’s magic hittin’ good sauce
Only $19.95 plus S/H..but wait that’s not all ! If you order now……
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
I can never find a picture of that bottle Bugs Bunny makes everyone drink out of at halftime in Space Jam.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
But then you couldn't sign Burriss
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Actually
this would be the biggest upside of the signing.
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2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Kruk/Kuip think he'll be a manager someday
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting.
they say that about a lot of players
For some reason, I particularly remember them saying that about Stan Javier.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
How about now?
Player/manager for the Giants?
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Does he have the first surgeon/agent in MLB?
by Natto on Dec 2, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Look, the guy's worth a million bucks. If I have to show you his tendon, I will. Shit's in a jar in my office.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I wonder if it was a good career choice to make his surgeon his agent.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Damn it, Natto.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve heard that about Howie.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 2, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
I think Alfonzo paid for a bunch of taxi cab adds saying thank you to the NY fans when he left. It was pretty classy.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 2, 2011 1:32 PM PST reply actions
OT Jim Gaffigan added two more shows for Washington DC
I am not knowledgeable about whether or not 63 dollars for a ticket is horribly expensive for a comedian, but I feel like it is. Any insights?
He's a premium comedian though
Saw him in SF a few years ago. Really funny.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
What's the conversion rate on all those pesos for that donkey show in Tijuana?
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting.
Gaffigan is funny but he seems to end every single joke with his high pitched voice thingy.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I’d say it’s a bit pricey. I saw Eddie Izzard in SF for 50 about a year ago, but maybe Gaffigan is bigger than Izzard. I don’t think so though.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 2, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
Depends on the comedian and the venue.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
I love good comedy and saw a lot of pretty famous comedians in clubs before they were famous
That said, I don’t think you miss a whole lot by seeing a performance on TV rather than live, especially in a big hall where you can’t see the facial expressions.
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting.
All tickets are more expensive
I just paid $150 all-in per ticket for Roger Waters. In the 80’s I used to pay $20-35/show for concerts, and maybe the comics in theatres were a little less, but not much.
The whole business of big name live shows has driven up the prices much faster than other cost-of-living increases. That’s part of the reason why I hardly go to shows any more.
"Your curses do not compare to those of Houston fans or Detroit fans, and especially not to those of fans from the northside of Chicago. You are not Hamlet. You are Valerie Bertinelli. Your victim act is schlocky, and totally unconvincing. You fancy yourself tormented. You are merely insecure."
-- Scott Burton to Red Sox fans, 6/12/02
http://espn.go.com/magazine/burton_20020612.html
OT/Shameless Kid Plugging
We’re on to solid foods! AND, she rolled over today for the first time on her own.
PROUD FATHER of a baby totally made during the 2010 World Series.
Awwww
she rolled over today for the first time on her own.
Soon your job will be to follow her around all day.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
and when she gets to dating age, I’ll have to add carrying a shotgun. Gona be a busy 18+ years…
PROUD FATHER of a baby totally made during the 2010 World Series.
This is why I only want to have boys.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
They carry their own shotguns.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
Which is to say, in their pants.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
WIDE SPRAY PATTERN!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 2, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
PUMP ACTION!
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
IN YOUR FACE
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
CAREFUL CLEANING THAT THING; IT MIGHT GO OFF!
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting.
How many times were you peed in the face changing diapers in the middle of the night?
How many of those times did Mrs. Goofus look over and laugh?
by wcw on Dec 2, 2011 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
I have never been so grateful repeatedly to have been peed on.
by wcw on Dec 2, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
This is where we are. I now have a permanent hunchback.
by BestHyperboleEver on Dec 3, 2011 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
Geez...you know they'll get him
The Padres are interested in acquiring Athletics closer Andrew Bailey to replace Heath Bell, according to ESPN.com’s Buster Olney (on Twitter). It remains likely that the A’s will trade Bailey, Olney writes.
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Heck yes
The Padres farm is reported to be STACKED. Their pen is always going to be good, but anything to take away talent is good.
I was at the Mets/Dbacks playoff game in ’99 where Alfonso hit a grand slam in the top of the 9th to put the Mets in the lead. I still remember how immediately SILENT the place got when the ball went over the wall.
Then Armando Benitez came in and shut the door in 1-2-3 fashion.
These are still my favorite Edgardo/Armando memories even though they both became Giants.
LOL me.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 2, 2011 1:38 PM PST reply actions
Baggs is on the Darren Ford case guys!
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
Wow! Check out the Merriam-Webster Word of the Day for Dec. 2. (Note the usage) Coolest thing to happen to me all week! bit.ly/d1SIER
Oh wait that has nothing to do with anything
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Wait, I thought the plural and singular forms were the same.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
HITLESS IN SEATTLE
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
can of corn
I remember like it was yesterday
It was a cold winter afternoon in 2002. I was standing outside of Superstars Cards and Collectables with my magic binder with a backpack full of decks, waiting for the store to open up. I wanted to sign up for a draft. I don’t remember what the format was. It could have been Odyssey block, or it could have been Onslaught block. I just remember that winter being one where I played a shit ton of limited and crushing little kids because I understood mana curve and basic drafting principles.
I remember calling up KNBR. Don’t even remember who the host was. I think it was some permutation of Bob Fitzgerald’s show. I remember calling him and say : This is what the Giants need to do.
1. Sign Edgardo Alfonso to play 3B
2. Sign Ray Durham to play 2B
3. Profit.
I was so sure that was the right move. And by golly, 2 months later those were the exact moves that happened. I was so stoked. I thought I was the best ever. OMG THE GIANTS FRONT OFFICE AND I AGREED I AM THE BEST. HERE WE COME AGAIN WORLD SERIES.
I was sad faced two years later.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
can of corn
Felipe Alou was my first choice for manager that offseason. ha.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
Me too. I thought it was a great move
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
I was pretty jazzed about Alfonzo. I was sold on Kent being a product of hitting around Barry and thought Alfonzo would hit just like him. LOLME
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
The one time Sabean doesn't want to bring back a veteran
He has two really good years.
They shoulda kept Kent.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
If I remember correctly, I don’t think Kent wanted anything to do with the Giants.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 2, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
That is what I remember
Also remember Barry and Kent in a shoving match in the dugout only a year or two before that.
That was in 2002.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
people forget that David Bell was peripherally involved
As I recall, Bell had made an error or something the previous inning, and cameras showed Kent berating him in the dugout. Than Barry got between them and got in Kent’s face, and the shoving ensued.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
Didn't Bell want to throw to Kent at 2nd (instead of 1st) and Kent wasn't ready?
And then Kent was laying into Bell for making him look bad?
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting.
Sounds plausible. Jeff Kent was not really known for his tact, or his fielding.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
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The dispute appeared to begin with Kent yelling at third baseman David Bell. Bonds became involved and as the argument escalated, he shoved Kent. Bonds and Kent had to be separated, and TV replays showed that trainer Stan Conte was holding back manager Dusty Baker after Baker moved from the other side of the dugout to intervene.
Several sources, including a Giants player, told the San Jose Mercury News that Kent snapped at Baker and told him: “I want off this team.” Another source said that Kent told Baker: “It’s his team anyway, of course you’ll take his side.”
No one associated with the team was able to verify that version, the Mercury News reported.
Several fans sit within feet of the Giants’ dugout. One of them, who asked to be identified only as Scott, told the newspaper that Baker fired back when Kent said he wanted off the team.
“Don’t ever say that again,” Baker is said to have replied, as he charged at the player. Scott said that, moments later, the hostility gave way to handshakes. Again, no one associated with the team confirmed that account.
Expletives were involved in the argument, Scott told the San Francisco Chronicle. “David Bell and Jeff Kent started throwing F-bombs back and forth,” Scott told the newspaper.
Scott was sitting in a small section of field-level seats that are practically inside the Giants’ dugout. There is a clear view of the entire dugout from those seats. After Bonds came to the defense of Bell, Kent cursed out Bonds, Scott told the Chronicle.
Bonds has stopped talking to reporters.
Kent said the dispute was “no big deal,” and that he’s had other altercations with Bonds in the six seasons they’ve been teammates.
“Add this to the half-dozen times we’ve done it before,” Kent said.
Kent also revealed that he once hit a grand slam right after sparring with Bonds.
Last season, when Bonds set the single-season home run record with 73, Kent criticized Bonds’ standoffish nature.
In the bottom of the second, Bell, the third baseman, fielded Julius Matos’ high chopper on the grass and went to second to try to force Wiki Gonzalez. Kent came off the bag too soon in fielding the ball, and Gonzalez was safe before Kent could get his foot back on the bag.
The Padres went on to score four runs in the second for a 5-0 lead.
Remarkably, less than 10 minutes after Bonds and Kent shoved each other, they high-fived each other as Bonds crossed the plate after his three-run homer in the third.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 2, 2011 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
It was actually a discussion about walks
Kent said that walks were for wimps. Dunston approved and prevented other OBP-hiles from defending Bonds.
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Clearly false
since your interpretation would mean Marvin Benard was an OBP-phile.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
No. It was long so I just copy/pasted parts. It was a post game article on ESPN.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 2, 2011 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
I would have but I thought it would be shorter. I’ll preview next time to make sure.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 2, 2011 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
Actually Bell had made a fantastic defensive play which should have allowed him to cut down the lead runner at second, except Kent, who clearly was expecting the throw to go to first, dropped it. Kent’s error opened the door for a big inning and frustrated by his own error Kent took it out on Bell in the dugout. It was a real selfish teammate move by Kent.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
That is seared into my memory. As much as that team did have a great offense, they weren’t particularly fun to root for. Lots of jerks.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
They were our jerks though. I loved rooting for the bad guys.
go tebow!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 2, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
I thought they did want to bring him back. They offered him arbitration and, as I recall, made a decent contract offer. But he hated the team, the city, and Barry.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
7 years later
On playing in San Francisco:
"The best place in my career to play and be a normal person was in San Francisco, living in Foster City, be involved in the neighborhood, go to work … it was very, very special to me. For six years I tried to suppress a lot of emotions and gratitude because I was so focused on playing baseball."
On whether he’d like to be depicted as a Giant if he is elected to the Hall of Fame:
"Absolutely, but I believe that’s not up to me anymore. I’ve had my best years in San Francisco, I’ve had the most fun throughout my career in San Francisco. There’s no doubt all my accomplishments, my passion and my heart was left in San Francisco."
On how he came to leave after the 2002 season:
"During the World Series, we were hugging, it was great. Then Dusty (Baker) was the first to leave and it just wasn’t the same. He was the ringleader of how we performed on the field, and when he left, it opened up a wound or gap and it probably was the biggest determining factor why I didn’t come back."
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
I don’t have a link handy or anything, but I’m pretty certain he trashed the organization and the city on his way out when he signed with the Astros.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
I remember it as being more along the lines of ’I’m excited to be playing in Texas, near my home’ and everyone unpacked the heck out of it. Of course, my memory isn’t all that reliable.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
I’ll never forgive him for tearing up when he signed with the Dodgers. Of course he’s from SoCal, but that’s no excuse.
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
That sort of thing is hard to overlook.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
I’ll never forgive him for tearing up when he signed with the Dodgers.
ahhh…the ol’ Brett Butler?
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 2, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
You had to go there
/runs from room crying
I moved to Southern California the same year Brett did. I do not like Brett Butler.
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
I dunno. Grace Under Fire had a pretty good run there for a while.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
It was life after Grace Under Fire that sucked for Ms. Butler.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 2, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
I went to elementary school in Arizona with his cousin, an absolutely gorgeous girl named Holly. He was a Cleveland Indian and I didn’t get anywhere with Holly.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 2, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
that’s why I wrote 7 years later.
I recall he was pretty angry leaving town. I think the Giants were also unhappy with how he handled the whole car wash thing.
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Those quotes smack of a guy trying to repair his image
I saw him on CSN Bay Area and he played the whole fight with Barry as a ploy to get the whole team fired up. He struck me as smug and smarmy, like he thought he was fooling everybody.
IIRC, after he and Barry were pulled apart, he yelled at Dusty something like “It’s your fault too, you let him (Bonds) run things”. Makes the quote about Dusty sound like B.S.
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting.
Kent hated lots of things. He just had that personality. I remember there a rumor that he didn’t like black people. Then everyone realized that he didn’t like people in general.
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
I thought it was the opposite, that between scuffling with Barry and the motorcycle stunt pretty much soured the Front Office on him. Throw in not wanting to spend the money to keep him (remember, they like a bunch of B players and not 2 Studs and a bunch of C players) and there goes Kent
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
@extrabaggs
Andrew Baggarly
For those asking about Darren Ford to Seattle … He cleared waivers and is a free agent. The Giants didn’t trade him. Not sure if he signed
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 2, 2011 1:50 PM PST reply actions
Giants decline to take PTBNL
Is it February 19 yet?
by j14 on Dec 2, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
I was with you Lies
I thought he was still on the 40 man
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
For those asking about Darren Ford to Seattle … He cleared waivers and is a free agent. The Giants didn’t trade him. Not sure if he signed
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
BREAKING!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
He wasn't traded
His sister knows nothing about the process.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 2, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
I’m sure Darren Ford’s sister is a wonderful woman, but she’s no Judy Steffes
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
Agreed
Paying Willie Bloomquist $4.6 million, the rumored amount of the Giants' offer, is a bad idea. The whole idea of letting Bradon Crawford run free at shortstop, bat be damned, is to get top-notch defense at rock-bottom prices and spend the cash on offense. Not on Willie Bloomquist.
-El Lefty Malo
He got picked off by the Giants when he was trying to sign with the Mariners, so we traded him.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
Not brought up to be political
but I just found out that the next Republican Debate will be moderated by none other than:
Donald Trump.
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Sigh.
Can we not?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
It's totally not political
I am just imaging Donald Trump moderating any debate…High School, Moot Court, Around the Horn…any debate.
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Or doing anything at all without being a fucking clown.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I guess that's a "no" to my question.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Okay
sorry.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
next year's gonna be a pain in the ass, isn't it?
I really hope the Giants make the playoffs so we have something to talk about in October.
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 2, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
not to start a long winded rant...
but some aspects of politics are pretty topical right about now. It’s going to come up. I’m pretty sure I’ve never seen anything get that ugly discusion wise here.
PROUD FATHER of a baby totally made during the 2010 World Series.
While I agree with you I think many people are tired of anything resembling political discussion.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
It’s because you can’t get away from it right now, and it’s only going to get worse.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
For me it’s like the moth/flame thing. It’s all a huge trainwreck: the terrible candidates, the crappy, horse-race and substance free coverage, etc… I’m drawn to it. Probably because it matters I guess. I can see how people would rather come here and talk about less heady topics though.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I really like to discuss politics. Think about how difficult it is to do face to face. It’s very difficult to do here because most of us are passionate people. Why else would we spend hours here talking about baseball. That fact and the geographical diversity that presents itself here can lead to some pretty broad viewpoints.
That passion come can out wrong when posting without getting in to great detail about why you may hold a particular opinion or belief. It’s like trying to have a serious discussion in text message. It can’t really be done. Subtly and context can be easily lost in the format here.
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by nvsfg on Dec 2, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think the diversity and the intelligence of McC would be very beneficial for some political debates. The ability to instantly back things up with links and google searches is a plus too.
Even so, I respect the wishes of those who don’t want it around.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
What did the Zips projections say Obama's WAP would be?
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting.
that's me. and i am very political
but already sick of everything
by orange velvet on Dec 2, 2011 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
That’s what is too bad. I like discussing strategy in a dispassionate sense. I am not a republican, but it is interesting to discuss this primary as an objective observer. I wish we could separate that from discussions about class warfare and other issues.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
I would agree with you but I am afraid that TL2 was a victim and he’s too valuable to this organization.
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No, I agree with the decision. I just think it’s too bad that it has to be this way.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
you could always start a fanpost for it
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 2, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
He and I are roadtripping through Texas to savor the distinct flavors of Texas BBQ.
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(Not actually. He’s been off-blog for a few days. Maybe all the SITCR annoyed him.)
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
He was here for a few days after that happened though, no?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
sure
But that’s not why people come here. It’s a Giants blog.
I guess you can argue the same about Parks & Rec, space travel, ASOIAF, etc. etc. etc., but none of those inspire personal attacks & animus the way politics do.
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 2, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
Wins for pitchers?
and the debate that shall not be named.
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PEOPLE WHO LIKE RUSH SHOULD BE POISONED, STABBED, SHOT, BURNED AT THE STAKE, AND THROWN INTO THE SUN
IN THAT ORDER.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Dec 2, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
That's not really a debate right?
I was thinking about the one involving desserts.
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POISONING SHOULD BE THIRD!!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
this is true.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I used to feel that way...
…but now I think of all the hours they’ve spent listening to Rush, and I say “Haven’t they suffered enough?”
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
by EliminateMe on Dec 2, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry…I can’t hear you….I’m busy air drumming to a 30 minute drum solo I have from a bootleg
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
I get that. I really do. I still consider myself a newbie here… My only point is, the side discussions/community here is a huge reason on my this site is so special, at least to me. There are a plethora of sites to go to if you want to engage in politics, just like there are a plethora of sites if you want to engage in only baseball.
Here, as long as everyone is respectful, I would humbly suggest z-ing through a topic you don’t like. (See: Me; My Little Pony)
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no, bronies should be hanged by the neck until dead
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 2, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I noticed yoshifan over on Fear the Fin and asked him if he was going to post ponies, and he assumed I was being mean to him. It was an innocent question. People do understandably get touchy when things they hold dear are disparaged.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
He has none of my pity.
He was suggested to ease up, then asked to lay off the bronies, then told to cut it out with the fuckin’ bronies thing, and then the SWARM started.
Dude needs a clue.
If we’d all climbed down his throat the first time he’d posted one, this would be a completely different story.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Yeah, repeated image posting is kind of its own category
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 2, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
But won't someone think of the ponies?
Please?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Oh, I agree that he was over the top.
But his reaction in another context indicated that the swarm did scar.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
For that, I'm sorry, but hopefuly he's learned.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
I agree with all of this but I think the complaint is that by even mentioning political stuff those who hold a minority view feel marginalized because they don’t want to get into it and battle TEH SWARM. I’m of the opinion that as long as people are calling each other nazis or trolling then say/do what you want.
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Wait
what?
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I think there are a few topics that get people worked out and can negatively damage this place.
Regardless of the discussion, people should be civil and feel free to raise their opinions no matter how crazy (I should know). Politics make rational people crazy.
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I would humbly suggest realizing that religion and politics are sex in the champagne room.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This is very fair. I’m only providing my POV.
I would just like to add that this site as a community, is a smart community. I’m very proud that the people on here were so quick for example to support the “It Gets Better” campaign.
That tells me that
A) this is a good community, and
B) politics play a significant role in our daily lives.
Last point I guess, is that my point is ALL politics aren’t bad or taboo. Even on a baseball site.
PROUD FATHER of a baby totally made during the 2010 World Series.
Or, at least, the politics you happen to agree with.
There ARE people on this site who are less tolerant of homosexuality, despite several openly gay members. They’ve simply chosen to stick to more baseball-related topics.
But yes, that being said, it’s comforting that people with such diverse views can come here and get along…but I credit that more to baseball serving as the mediating factor than the moderated discussions themselves.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
NO RELIGION OR POLITICS IN THE SEX & CHAMPAGNE ROOM!
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
WHAT ABOUT CHAMPAGNE IN THE POLITICS ROOM?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
or
Sex in the Religion Room?
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/ checks Google..
Nope that’s a political discussion too.
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THIS ISN’T GREAT BRITAIN
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
I saw his roast late Thanksgiving night. Those things are often pretty funny. Snoop Dogg was on any really baked.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Snoop Dogg was really baked.
BREAKING !!!!
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
or as they say
Water is wet
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Speaking of Snoop
Anyone ever watch him on Martha Stewart? That was high-larious.
He put cognac in the mashed potatoes.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 2, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
Damn Snoop!
Stop hanging around with criminals.
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
related
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 2, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
I’d prefer Darryl Hammond doing his Trump impression.
Proud owner of over 20,000 comments. (most of them in the wrong place) Oh yeah, and Buster Posey
by rxmeister on Dec 2, 2011 2:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I don’t bring this up to be offensive, but your mother gives a terrific blowjob.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 9 recs
HAHAHA
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 2, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
Isn’t that your job?
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
Are you saying my mother gives a sub-standard blowjob? I DEMAND SATISFATION, SIRRAH!
/removes gloves, slaps Hyoton across the face with them
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
If your mother gave better BJs, maybe you wouldn't need to be demand satisfaction
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting.
JD just got Thundergunned
I feel like I want to rage. Right now.
by fjm on Dec 2, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Look, this is objective assessment!
I have statistics! /grabs crotch
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Can I have your babies
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
can of corn
i don't talk religion, i don't talk politics .........
i talk sports.
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
November 1, 2010: Best/craziest/drunkest night of my life.
i talk weed, if that’s what you mean. lol. dope can be any kind of drugs nowadays. i stick to weed.
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
November 1, 2010: Best/craziest/drunkest night of my life.
Smoking dope = marijuana
Doing dope = heroin
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 2, 2011 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
I was a punk before you were a punk!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
Dammit. That should be ‘I was a dope before you were a dope’.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
or..
“A babies arm holding an apple”
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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Bill Spooner was my instructor for this band workshop I did in SF. I got to work with him for 10 weeks on songs and then perform at Cafe Du Nord at the end. He was a pretty cool guy. It was amazing how fast he could listen to a song and then teach everyone in the band their individual parts.
WWRWD?
It really isn't though.
Rally Jerry!
Greekfro: One who takes a curiously long time to reply to a comment
McC: Its's a blog so they're a bunch of hipsters anyway-my brother
Maybe not in the way nicotine is.
But I definitely know some people who can’t stop.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 2, 2011 9:14 PM PST up reply actions
It, like many things, can be psychologically addictive.
I can’t remember ever hearing proof that it is physically addictive though.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 2, 2011 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah.
That’s basically what I mean. Some people I know don’t do anything without smoking first. I guess I’m lucky because I don’t even enjoy being high that much. It’s alright, can make things a little more fun, but I would never want to smoke before homework or exercise or anything.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 2, 2011 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
Will this fit on a t-shirt?
The important thing to remember is to freak out right away the second you read the news. That’s where the good, honest analysis comes from.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Dec 2, 2011 1:58 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Would it be a front and back quote
or all on the front?
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McCovey Chronicles:
In play, freakout(s).
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 2, 2011 7:36 PM PST up reply actions
this is good
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 3, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
More money for everyone!
If you used Ticketmaster’s website to buy tickets between October 21, 1999 and October 19, 2011, you’re in for a windfall.
Well, a $1.50 per ticket order windfall.
Because of a proposed class action settlement, Ticketmaster is being forced to credit $1.50 per ticket order (up to 17 orders) to customers due to the fact that they profited off of “processing fees” without declaring as much.
and of course:
Also, the Counsel attorneys plan to ask for an award of up to $16,500,000 in attorneys’ fees and expenses, as well as $20,000 to the two plaintiffs who brought forward the class action in the first place.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/everyone-used-ticketmaster-last-12-190940783.html
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It’s not money, it’s store credit.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
$16,500,000?
Talk about “convenience fees”! /rim shot
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Pearl Jam
Early June, The US Justice Department began an investigation into possible anti-competitive actions in the concert industry after the band’s laywers filed a complaint last month. Pearl Jam officially asked the United States Department of Justice to investigate Ticketmaster on antitrust charges, alleging that the company’s 1991 buyout of Ticketron resulted in a Ticketmaster monopoly over ticket distribution in the country’s arenas and stadiums. When Pearl Jam tried to mount a summer 1994 tour using non-Ticketmaster facilities, they claimed that Ticketmaster had used its influence to successfully pressure promoters to boycott the low-cost tour. Pearl Jam proposed charging a face value of $18 plus a 10% service charge, which falls well below the usual service charge on concert tickets . [Tickemaster charges services fees ranging from $4-$15 on top of according to the complain filed with the Justice Department]. The band garnered support of artists such as R.E.M., Garth Brooks, Neil Young, Grateful Dead, and Aerosmith, whose manager Tim Collins testified at the House hearings and read a statement that Aerosmith had issued from Italy where they were on tour, quoting Steven Tyler’s view of how Ticketmaster relates to the music industry: “Mussolini may have made trains run on time but not everyone could get a seat on those trains”. Even the White House joined the chorus of support for the band’s efforts. Although R.E.M.‘s attorney and co-manager, Bertis Downs, testified against Ticketmaster during the hearing’s, R.E.M. ended up using the company on their Monster tour with over-the-phone service fee’s hitting $6.50 on a $40 ticket. So the band found it impossible to book a tour without the cooperation of Ticketmaster, so they canceled their 94’ Summer Tour.
Although it’s been widely reported that it was Pearl Jam’s complaint about Ticketmaster that first drew the Justice Department’s attention to the company’s business practices and initiated the antitrust investigation, Pearl Jam had been approached by the Justice Department and asked to make a formal complaint about Ticketmaster. The Justice Department was apparently already toying with the idea of an antitrust investigation against Ticketmaster, and had simply seized on Pearl Jam, in the wake of published comments by the band on their disputes with the ticket giant, as a high-profile wedge they could use to push the inquiry through.
Jeff Ament and Stone Gossard gave three hours of testimony before government subcommittee on Capitol Hill on June 30th about the ever-escalating expense involved in purchasing tickets to entertainment events, singling out Ticketmaster and charging that the computerized ticket service prices its tickets for rock concerts far higher that the band’s young fans can afford. They testified that they, “should have the freedom to go elsewhere if Ticketmaster is not prepared to negotiate terms that are acceptable to both of us”.
“Eventually they came out with a press release that basically said, “The Department of Justice has ceased its investigation of Ticketmaster. No further investigation will take place.” That was it, after a year of struggle. It was really amazing to be right up close and get absolutely stomped on by a huge corporate entity", Eddie Vedder.
In July 1995, the Justice Department dropped its investigation; analysts believe that because venue owners and promoters willingly entered into the exclusive contracts, the Justice Department had no choice but to clear Ticketmaster)
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 2, 2011 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
.
We were trying to keep our ticket prices low, and we were finding that in a lot of cases, the service charge was changing randomly. Sometimes it would be five bucks, sometimes it would be eight, and we didn’t understand why. And the response was a very cocky Fred Rosen [president of Ticketmaster] saying, ‘If you guys are stupid enough not to make what you’re worth, then I’m going to make what you’re worth.’ They wouldn’t even print their service charge on the tickets. It looked like we were charging, say, 26 bucks for a ticket when we were really only charging 18. My brother, who’s a lawyer, turned me on to another lawyer, and he thought it was all very interesting, and the next thing I know the Justice Department is calling…", Kelly Curtis (Pearl Jam Manager).
"Basically, they’re the largest ticket distribution company, and they set up contracts with venues. It’s a very cozy relationship between the building owners, and promoters and Ticketmaster. There’s no real competition for them in terms of how difficult it is to start one of these companies now that Ticketmaster has got a grip on the business. Testifying before Congress about it was a very surreal experience. Say we, Pearl Jam, want to sell our tickets for $18, which is a relatively low price today. So Ticketmaster says, well, Christ, if they want to sell their tickets for $18 and we know they’re going to sell out, let’s tack on a $5 service charge. And there’s no standard service charge, they can tack on whatever they feel. They can go low for a family event like a circus or much higher for an Eagles show. One of the issues we’re hoping to get the government to act on is to say, “You can’t have a service charge that’s more than ten percent of the actual ticket price,” or something so you’d know where you were standing. We’re a band that’s willing to compromise to make things right for both parties. But in [Ticketmaster CEO] Fred Rosen’s case, he’s not really willing to do that in a way that makes us feel comfortable in terms of knowing he’s not screwing us", Stone Gossard.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 2, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
Grant Brisbee.
That was LITERALLY the best thing I’ve read all day.
/points finger in Grant’s face
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Dec 2, 2011 2:05 PM PST via mobile reply actions
with mocking laughter?
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You need to watch more Parks and Rec.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
/cries, jumps around
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
The Trial of Leslie Knope was pretty awesome.
Also, the anime break in the middle of Community was epic.
Consider the Community/Parks and Rec subthread officially started.
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
I’ll watch episode 4 right now.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
I have yet to understand why Rashida Jones is in so many things.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
I think she’s purdy.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
The fact that she’s Jewish just makes her that much more intriguing.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
Yep, through her mother. Even went to Hebrew School and all that
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
And she was friends with Tupac
or something.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 2, 2011 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
One of the staff members on this show is named Hiscock?
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve always liked her. I suppose she pretty much plays the same person though.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
She’s good at playing the non-comedic character in comedies. Being the straight woman, if you will.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
This does seem to cover a lot of her roles.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
She has good timing for it, even if her character isn’t the one being hilarious.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
She never seems to have any chemistry with anybody. Not even romantic chemistry. Just “we’re in the same scene together” chemistry.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
I think she works pretty well with Amy Poehler, but that’s really more a Season 2 thing.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
She seemed to be getting better by the end of season 1, actually. I may have some preconceptions based on the movies I’ve seen her in. She felt so out of place in I Love You Man, for instance.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
Really, I think the answer to your question is: her parents. Hollywood really is a legacy town after all.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
I’m sort of fascinated by her because of her background- she’s led one of the strangest, coolest lives I can imagine. Her father is Quincy Jones so she got to hang out with all of Quincy’s buds, including Miles Davis, Frank Sinatra, and Ella Fitzgerald and hung out at Neverland Ranch all the time with Michael Jackson (there’s a story I read where she talks about driving around with Michael and Emanuel Lewis squirting people with super soakers while driving around in Michael’s limo). Her sister was engaged to Tupac and she went to Harvard where she acted in plays and was in that super annoying Harvard acapella group (with whom she also wrote a bunch of songs for). She also dated Obama’s speech writer and was dating John Krasinski when she was on the Office (which she was great in). And from pretty much every account I’ve read of her, she appears to be fairly normal.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 3, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
I really like her
I think she’s a great straight woman on P&R
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Okay, episode 6. Doesn’t seem like this park will get made in season 1.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
For whatever reason, I was expecting this to be a proper season break. I guess it was only a half season.
But are they following up on this stuff or not? I can’t tell.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Okay, they are.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
Stop watching Season 1, skip to Season 2. The show was pretty meh until then.
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 2, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
Episode 6 is the end of season 1. At least as it’s listed on Netflix.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
STOP WATCHING IT RIGHT NOW, I TELL YOU
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 2, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
I already finished it. I’m watching gay penguins now.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
That is the question.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
It’s all rainbows and puppies after Gay Penguins
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
I saw a single episode of Community (maybe this season’s premier?) and was pretty meh on it. I’m sure I’ll give it another chance sometime.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
ANIME CAT
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 2, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
Self-directed reality check:
the Giants fanatic in me is exceptionally upset that for a team still fairly close to its most recent WS championship, and arguably in reach of another, this team wants to tighten the purse strings.
But then I asked myself what would change my mind. Would I rather Sabean was actively pursuing every big ticket free agent that we even remotely needed, and/or offering ridiculous trades of virtually any of my beloved Giants for perceived improvements from elsewhere?
No.
Then what?
I honestly don’t know. I don’t like what I’m hearing, and I’m not excited about it yet, but I’m not sure what the more reasonable expectations would be at this point. I turn to the experts/gritty vets among us: what WOULD you expect Sabes to be doing at this point without tipping his hand, etc.? (BESIDES signing Reyes already, GP..!)
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His posting deadline is today no?
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I'm neither, but I'd like Sabean's strategy to involve more shutting up.
Not going out and saying “We’re not signing any big-ticket free agents, we’re focusing on our pitching, blah blah blah.” Unless it’s some kind of amazing misdirection, it basically takes the Giants out of the game when I can’t imagine there’s any advantage in it. Why not make vague noises about improving the lineup and see if, I dunno, Jose Reyes turns out to be way cheaper than expected, or a you can squeeze a low posting bid on Nakajima, etc?
If you’re not going to make a splash, then just float in the pool and see what happens. Don’t stomp off to the locker room.
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 2, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
Actually
Sabean uses “misdirection” and “confusion” a lot.
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yeah
Which is why this immediate “FUCK IT, WE’RE OUT!” is so weird and off-putting.
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 2, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
Again
it’s just Sabean being Sabean.
Remember, according to Sabean, Jonathan Sanchez was going on the 2012 Giants for sure.
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yeah, I mean
I’ll be thrilled if it is misdirection and they’re in on Reyes, Nakajima, or Rollins, or are otherwise looking to seriously improve the lineup.
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 2, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
I think they’re out of the Reyes and probably Rollins race. Not just because of their demands but their lack of durability and desired contract length.
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Would people really rather that he tell the press
exactly what he’s thinking? It would seem pretty basic that part of negotiating strategy is to HIDE YOUR STRATEGY from the opposition. I hope to hell he’s lying every time some reporter asks him for a spoiler.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
No, I'd like him to tell the press as little as possible.
Again, if this IS vast misdirection on FA signings, awesome. But if you’ve got a crappy budget and little chance of signing impact players, and a league-worst offense to fix, why would you go out there and SAY “We have no money and we’re spending the not-money we have on pitching”?
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 2, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
And now we’re back to your original idea which I completely support.
I’m neither, but I’d like Sabean’s strategy to involve more shutting up.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 2, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
Smells like HepC to me!
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PhD, not MD
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Don’t you still get the title ‘Doctor’ though?
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I can do better. I can make illegal drugs a la Walter White.
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Film scripts?
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by Murray, Present on Dec 2, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
With the sheer volume of medical dramas that exist, I feel like there has to be one at some time that was titled P.H.D, M.D. with a main character whose initials were P.H.D.
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by Ott on Dec 2, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
Now that was funny. I’m still not sure why, but I can’t stop laughing.
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OK, point taken.
Still, you don’t have a reporter in your face asking you how you’re going to play in the middle of a hand.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
I'm not saying Brian Sabean and the rest of the org shouldn't bluff
I’ve said repeatedly I’d be thrilled if they were (although it’s a pretty clumsy way of doing so, the standards aren’t incredibly high). But I don’t think they are, because by all appearances everything he’s said about the budget is true.
Like I said in my very first post, I think he should say as little as possible, and if he is going to say things, they shouldn’t be about what the Giants aren’t going to do to fix their offense.
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 2, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
This is sort of what I was getting at in the original post.
Puts the onus back on us to decide how truly pleased we are with him at the moment.
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His mistake was dumping all his points into those skills and almost none into ‘Contract Negotiation’ or ‘Free Agent Evaluation’.
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by Ott on Dec 2, 2011 2:21 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Only noobs use misdirection
Imp’s mischief and swerve are way cheaper and standard counterspells are way more versatile and effective.
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If they're expanding the payroll to $130M as reported
I wouldn’t call it “tightening the purse strings”
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Excellent point.
Perhaps it’s safe to say that fan perception is that FO can afford to spend more than it is claiming, ergo grumpy fans who just like to see balls in play.
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Bruce Jenkins was on with Marty last night spouting off about how they must have made so much money on all the t-shirts and they could definitely be spending more. I guess nobody else really believes in the rainy day fund
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 2, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
When they include players who are no longer on the 25 man roster in that 130 million, it seems a bit like a lie. At least it does to me. Also, once the arb awards and built-in increases in existing players contracts kick in, most of that “increase” is accounted for.
Anyway, the majority of what is left is being spent in a way that will keep the Giants as a team that will continue to be bottom 5 in runs scored.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 2, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
Excellent point.
/grabs popcorn and awaits the reply from Goofus
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But they could be saying no to all those arb awards and built-in increases so it is, technically, a payroll increase. It’s just hard to explain from a PR perspective because whenever you say “payroll increase” everybody starts getting dreamy thoughts of a Reyes/Fielder short to first infield
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
You can't say no to an increase on a contract you already agreed to
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 2, 2011 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
When they include players who are no longer on the 25 man roster in that 130 million, it seems a bit like a lie.
Right ? I think of the payroll in terms of players on the field. The FO thinks of it as every mistake they have ever made and all of the backloaded contracts that they pay out years after the fact.
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The other disturbing thing....
…is that $42MM of the $130MM will be spent on Aaron Rowand, Barry Zito, and Aubrey Huff.
Huff will bounce back, Zito will eat some innings….aw hell, can we just talk about the Bears?
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 2, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
That is disturbing
Almost as disturbing as this.
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Disturbingly awesome!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
It's creepy, but it's Pork
so it has that going for it.
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What is even more interesting...
Zito, Huff, Rowand, Wilson, Sanchez, Affelt, and Lopez account for $66MM of salary which is just over half of the total of ($130MM). So basically, we are talking about the Oakland A’s ($63MM) + a washed up 5th starter, a washed up shitty back-up first baseman, a pure average second baseman with no existing connective tissue in his dominant shoulder, a player we DFA’d, two LOOGYs and a closer who has made at least 2 visits to the Birmingham Alabama offices of Dr. James Andrews in the past 6 months.
Right here..
In yet another blatant attempt to lure TL2 back, I present more positive images from the south. Southern Style Pork Chops, with Black Eyed Peas and Collard Greens
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Wait, what happened to drive TL2 away?
:(
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 2, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
I missed most of the thread/conversation when it happened, so I don’t know all of details. Apparently all of the Champagne room talk and some very negative comments about Alabama.
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Nooooo
This is why we can’t have nice things.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 2, 2011 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
I thought it was good-natured (at least considering this crowd).
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
My cat is pretty good-natured about the way he plays with mice. Oddly, the mice don’t seem to enjoy it.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
You need tougher mice.
Which is to say, I miss TL2, too. I hope my crack about Eisenhower Republicans wasn’t the last straw.
by wcw on Dec 2, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
I don't disagree with...
… how the payroll increases are mostly covering keeping existing players, however it’s still an increase in payroll and they remain in the upper tiers of spending.
IIRC, they started last season at ~$120M and finished at ~$124M and are (apparently) increasing it from there.
There are legitimate arguments about how the money is being spent. My comment was more “let’s keep things in perspective” and not make them sound like they’re cutting payroll.
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So you’d be comforted if they were still on the team? The fact that they aren’t on the 25 man is a blessing.
They are players that the Giants are paying money to this year, hence they are in this year’s budget. I think that sucks, but I wouldn’t call it a lie.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
Not that I want him, but if the Giants did want DeRosa back, you would think he’d feel an obligation to go back to them after doing nothing for 12 million dollars.
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by rxmeister on Dec 2, 2011 2:12 PM PST via mobile reply actions
LOL LAWYERS
POINT TWO: The rate at which American law schools are producing aspiring lawyers far outstrips the demand for new lawyers, and this has been the case for many years now. The Bureau of Labor Statistics estimates that the economy will produce an average of approximately 24,400 new jobs for lawyers per year over the next decade. ABA-accredited law schools are producing 45,000 new graduates per year, while non-accredited schools produce several thousand more (Approximately 53,000 people pass state bar examinations each year). An important sub-point about these statistics is that the BLS estimates are not for how many jobs will be filled by new law school graduates: they are for all new legal jobs. What this means is one can’t assume, for instance, that half the 50,000 aspiring lawyers (conservatively speaking) that enter the market each year will get law jobs, since some of those new jobs are going to be taken by people already in the market for attorney jobs who were not currently employed as attorneys. Obviously, this problem gets worse over time, as the surplus of lawyers without law jobs continues to increase.
So bad. So, so bad.
The first six innings are overrated.
Yeah
it’s stupid to let you kid be a lawyer unless they’re already have a PHD (science or engineering) or MBA and/or graduating from a top-25 law school.
The average amount borrowed annually by law students jumped 50 percent from 2001 to 2010, the Hartford Business Journal reports. In the last academic year, law students borrowed an average of $68,827 for public schools and $106,249 for private educations.
http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/average_annual_law_school_loan_jumped_50_percent_since_2001
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Didn’t the cost of any type of college education jump at least 50% in that same time frame, though?
It’s a shame, law school was my lazy default for an advanced degree. Now I have to figure out something I’d actually want to do and stuff.
The first six innings are overrated.
Maybe
I know that my law tuition went up from $25,000 to $35,000 to $43,000 for the three years I was there.
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I think most education costs have jumped. Lawyering school was probably just already more expensive. It’s a shame too because it’s something I have an interest in but with current BA student debt I can’t justify the expense.
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The amount of job availability is cause for concern...
….the debt less so. Lawyers have considerably more access to salaries that can erase that accelerated debt than, say, firemen or teachers.
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It's the combination of the two that scares me
I’d be able to deal with one individually, but the prospect of being $100k+ in debt AND not being able to find a decent job? Terrifying.
The first six innings are overrated.
I envision tens of thousands of student loan defaults with the government having no choice but to take the loss…. And many of those ‘10 years in the public service’ being sorely disappointed by a change in the rules…. And hundreds of law schools deservedly being put out of business…. With the final outcome of the job and education market falling back into some semblance of reality.
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That's not really true
Maybe 15 percent of the top law school grads get a “Big Law” job ($150,000 or so plus bonus) Most get significantly less. The average salary of a new attorney is $97,000 in the Los Angeles area. Attorneys lose three years of experience by going to Law school.
Also, a lot of big firms are dividing their hires to partner and non-partner tracks. Partner tracks still get the big money but the non-partner tracks make like half that.
The only thing going for being an attorney is the relative longevity of the job.
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My implication was that longevity offers itself to improvement over time.
There isn’t much of a sliding scale for income for fire departments; they’re subject to the whims of their locale and pretty set. Teachers have a similar structure and considerably less job security, yet similar debt ratios.
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Both Teachers and firefighters in a normal market have a considerably higher job security than attorneys.
It’s actually a lot worse now…experienced attorneys are now taking jobs for new hires or first/second year attorneys.
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Things are tough all over.
experienced [job title]are now taking jobs for new hires or first/second year [job title].
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But do all careers have the same room for rebound?
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This is not entirely true
Older, more expensive software engineers gets laid off so their company can hire cheaper, younger engineers out of college and work them 80+ hours a week for 1/2 the price all the time.
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I read another article recently about law schools fudging their graduate placement numbers
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I remember Duke getting in trouble for this a couple years ago. Those students who couldn’t get jobs were given research assistant type jobs at the law school their first year out so that they could say that they had 100% employment rate upon graduation.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 2, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
I want a research assistant type job
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by Murray, Present on Dec 2, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
When you’re getting $14 an hour while a +$1,000 loan payment knocks on your door every month you may just change your tune.
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It's better than $0
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by Murray, Present on Dec 2, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
You can do what my older daughter does...Call Dad.
When you’re getting $14 an hour while a +$1,000 loan payment knocks on your door every month
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I heard recently that you can cap your monthly student loan payments at 15% of your annual income, but I haven’t looked into it yet.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
That has been proposed, but not passed yet. It would be a significant change in the way “outsourced” student loans are paid.
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I thought the one that wasn’t passed yet was a revision that would reduce the cap to 10%…
I really am just going from memory here, though. According to http://www.finaid.org/loans/ibr.phtml, there was something that went into effect in 2009 based on income.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
In the next couple of months, I’ll know a lot more about this. There will be some very serious conversations going on with my financial aid advisor.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, that was the political band-aid
But the underline there is ‘can’, with the understanding that some will still pay an absurd percentage of their income while others will simply be obliged to pay on their student debt until they’re dead.
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Imagine being in your sixties and still paying on a student loan you incurred during your early twenties.
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Seems wrong doesn't it ?
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What I heard included forgiveness after 20 years of payment.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
Also, I’m pretty sure I imagine this scenario daily.
I’d rather make reasonable payments my whole life than have my life ruined next year. At least, that’s my stance now.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
The logical scenario involves a united group of over indebted students to all simultaneously and thoroughly default, thus destroying the entire system in one fell swoop. We can call it ‘Occupy Sallie Mae’.
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I feel I should say that for all my money complaining – and I realize I complain about it often enough – I believe in the decisions I’ve made and am extremely happy with the path I’m on. The work that I’ve done, am doing, and will be doing is extremely gratifying.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
Here is the current program for capped payments:
http://www.ibrinfo.org/what.vp.html
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Public schools and colleges are run by tribal governments?
In any case, I believe there is a 100% chance that I will qualify for some reasonable cap here.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, at her current rate, my ex-gf will be paying over $700 a month until she’s into her 60’s. She also hates being a lawyer and regrets law school. Poor girl.
WWRWD?
Becoming a lawyer was about the stupidest thing I’ve ever done. Fortunately, my loans will be paid off long before I hit my 60’s.
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by kdl on Dec 2, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
Me too. I didn’t know what to do after college and I bought in to the whole “you can work in any field” line. My loans aren’t too bad though.
WWRWD?
Every time I hear about loans, my indentured servitude seems better and better.
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It's only 7 years!
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All this talk is making me feel so much better about not having gone to college.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
Get your art degree, Little Alex.... Follow your dreams!
Just kidding. I was lucky enough to have a wealthy relative who believed that all his grandchildren should have a college education, bar none, provided that they maintained the grades to do so.
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Being a lawyer sucks, but I wouldn’t consider that an indictment against higher education.
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by kdl on Dec 2, 2011 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve been reading the collected speeches and letters of Abraham Lincoln…. That guy sure knew how to make law sound glorious.
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Perhaps it was a little less litigious than our current version.
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My girlfriend and I have a running joke going in that we’ve never actually met lawyers who were happy. They were all miserable and exhausted from working really hard but owned lots of really cool things
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
I'm pretty happy about being a lawyer
It’s kinda of fun at times and you do have a better/realistic understanding of the legal system.
It can be exhausting but that has a lot to do with your employer/firm.
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My sister is a lawyer in the public sector (she works for a federal judge). Obviously you don’t get paid as much, so if you have huge loans to pay off I guess that would be the end of that. But you get benefits, your employer is more likely to be cool about alternative work arrangements (she’s worked part-time for very extended stretches in order to spend time with her kids), and when you are on the clock, it’s possible to have a 9-to-5 day.
There is
loan forgiveness if you work for public interest/non-profit. 6 year plan.
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Everyone buys into that, apparently. I went to public school, so my loans aren’t too bad, but it took me awhile to start being able to make major payments on them.
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by kdl on Dec 2, 2011 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
Fontenot for Hosner
Ger Er Done!
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
KC looking for a utilityman, preferably someone who can hit LHed. KC in a unusual place: Royals’ everyday lineup is set. Much improvement.
unusual as in Olney can’t believe he actually wrote a sentence about a non I-95 team
by Clark woulda had it on Dec 2, 2011 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
LOL METS
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“There’s a bad smell coming from the DeRosa house.” RT @mlbtraderumors: Four Teams Checked In On Mark DeRosa bit.ly/vr8FOe #mlb
Carter Jurica!
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This is a misprint. It’s actually supposed to read “four teams of surgeons checked DeRosa.”
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LOL - Jon Heyman
Tweets that SF had “interest” in Willy Mo Pena before he signed for close to $5m with the Softbank Hawks.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 2, 2011 2:47 PM PST reply actions
Dumpster diving
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 2, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
“Gonna need a bigger dumpster…”
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 2, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
I’m of the belief that if we’re going to sign shitty players we should at least sign shitty players that are entertaining.
The first six innings are overrated.
That would be entertaining!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 2, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
OT: Creepy and hilarious
The customer reviews are funny, but really it’s the extra customer images that are truly amazing.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
Haha
That’s how I saw it, on someone’s wishlist.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
INSTANT PONY
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 2, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
Niiiccce !!
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
We’re between Danes (our rescue dog is anti-social, dont want a big dog to learn that). They’re the most fantastic dogs. What color?
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
INSTANT CLYDESDALE
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 2, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
I absolutely loved this! Last year I dressed as Sarah Jessica Parker for Halloween, and this really helped pull my costume together. I’m really glad I was able to find it! I won the best costume contest at my work. :)
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 2, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
SL
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
by marcello on Dec 2, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That's pretty creepy
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
I discovered this
I feel like I want to rage. Right now.
by fjm on Dec 2, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
THIS
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
can of corn
We played "Track the puck" with her during the game last night
For the first time, she sort of understood the objective of the game and what’s going on.
Tomorrow’s lesson : Offside and Icing!
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
can of corn
If she can follow the puck and understand the objective of the game, then she is already better than like 25% of adult Americans.
If you can teach her offside and icing she will be more knowledgeable than 95% of adult Americans.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 2, 2011 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
That’s stretching it lol.
But for the first time, when the game went to shoot out, she understood 100% what’s going on!
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
can of corn
I second this statement.
But importantly, what is her standpoint on Matt Cain?
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 2, 2011 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
CUTE!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 2, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
DO SOMETHING!
THAT SHARK HAS YOUR DAUGHTER
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I've got nice twits
uh..tweeters
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting.
….
Okay. This hopefully has something to do with twitter.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 2, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
they're awesome
I’m following just to keep an eye on ’em.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 2, 2011 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
I broke my finger playing handegg over Thanksgiving
It made it hard to follow MCC.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 2, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
It was!
It is my left index finger. (The break was caused by massive pass interference)
But I have gotten much better at typing with only 3 fingers on my left hand.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 2, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
Reyes "mystery team" discussion
Giants – GM Brian Sabean decided to build what will probably be the game’s most expensive bullpen, so it doesn’t look like there’s room for Reyes without the team’s payroll hitting $140 million next year. He’d provide a huge lift at a problem position, though, and give the Giants the leadoff hitter they need.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
That article makes it sound like
no one really wants him. Or that they’ll only bid on him to drive up the cost for the Marlins.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Hmmm. Maybe the Doctor landed in an ordinary office and the Chameleon circuit is jammed halfway between working (blending in as a cubicle) and and stuck on Police Box.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 2, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
but where are was that photo taken in space and time?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
BOOM
In Tebow’s case, the conventional numbers lie. His quarterback rating of 80.5 would rank him 21st in the league. By Lahman’s measure of “Adjusted Yards,” however, he’s no worse than ninth.
Still, because the nine games in which Tebow has appeared (six as a starter, three in relief) are an admittedly small sample, Lahman came up with a better way to gauge Tebow’s effectiveness. It’s a spread sheet that ranks quarterbacks by “Adjusted Yards per Touch” ("a touch" being defined as pass and rushing attempts plus sacks). By that measure, Tebow gains an average of 2.61 yards every time he touches the ball. Maybe that doesn’t sound like much, but only four quarterbacks have doe better this season. In order, they are Rodgers, Drew Brees, Brady and injured Matt Schaub. Tebow is No. 5.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
can of corn
At some point
Tebow will have to execute the “forward pass” with some consistency.
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
QBs that run more than pass usually don’t last very long (see Vick, Michael)
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
So if I’m reading that right… Lahman invented a stat to make Tebow look good by comparison, and it made Tebow look good by comparison?
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
In very practical terms, if Tebow were adding a level of offense to his team only surpassed by Rodgers, Brees, Brady, and Schaub, they would be scoring more than two offensive touchdowns a game with him starting.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
If Matt Cain hung out with Tim Tebow, Matt Cain would no longer suck at winning games.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
non October games
Matty’s got a firm grasp of winning in October.
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
Hard to lose if you don’t give up any runs.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
the 2011 Giants rotation
would beg to differ
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
THEY GAVE UP OVER THREE RUNS A GAME! THREE!!! THEY GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
Cain: Bruce Willis :: Tebow : Samuel L. Jackson
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 2, 2011 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
“I’m tired of these motherfucking drop back passes on this motherfucking play sheet!”
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
But what if you think Samuel L is way cooler than Bruce Willis?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
I see my Unbreakable reference has backfired
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 2, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
Oooohhhh….I thought you were doing a bad ass actor metaphor or maybe even a Pulp Fiction metaphor and you liked the Bruce Willis story better than the Samuel L story (which would be wrong)
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
“Adjusted Yards per Touch” must be SOME adjustment, because Alex Smith has combined for 2078 yards through the air and ground, including negative yards for sacks, on 362 total touches, making an “Unadjusted Yards per Touch” for him equal to 5.74.
My guess is that there’s some batshittery about a YAC/DEF/ETC adjustment that batshits things to look a particular way.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
I’m guessing that it wildly overrates sacks, interceptions, and touchdowns by the QB. Those are the things he’s been “good” at right?
It vastly overrates whatever the guy who created it decided needed to be overrated to make Tebow rank highly.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 7:03 PM PST up reply actions
No you are not.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Cam Newton will get it
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
How dare you.
What about Newton’s SIERA and xFIP?
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
And he may very well deserve it.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
I started off annoyed with him. (To be fair this started when he was still in college). I have moved to the “amused and bemused” phase.
I’m sure it will swing back around to IDGAF shut up eventually.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 2, 2011 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Contribute to the RDF:
Tomorrow, Saturday December 3rd, the Giants celebrate the Grand Opening of our new Walnut Creek Store location with a party – and you’re invited! We’re pleased to announce the opening of the new Dugout Store located at 1231 South Main Street in Walnut Creek, across from Broadway Plaza.
Join Willie McCovey, Duane Kuiper, Lou Seal, the 2010 World Champion Trophy and many more special guests at the ribbon cutting ceremony at 10:00 AM. The party continues until 1:00 PM. There will be entertainment, prizes and ballpark snacks so get started on that shopping list for your favorite Giants fan!
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Over/Under on Kuip being under the influence during this event.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Can I just say
It feels really weird for him to be doing an even without Kruk. I mean, I know they’re not joined at the hip, but, like, I can’t conceive in my brain of them having separate lives.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
.
As many of you know, I work with Grant Brisbee from McCovey Chronicles. We both write for our own sites, and we both write for Baseball Nation. There exists a Baseball Nation editorial chatroom into which we’re seemingly always logged
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 2, 2011 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
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As many of you know, I work with Grant Brisbee from McCovey Chronicles. We both write for our own sites, and we both write for Baseball Nation. There exists a Baseball Nation editorial chatroom into which we’re seemingly always logged
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 2, 2011 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
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As many of you know, I work with Grant Brisbee from McCovey Chronicles. We both write for our own sites, and we both write for Baseball Nation. There exists a Baseball Nation editorial chatroom into which we’re seemingly always logged
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
LOL That’s the site not me. I saw your duplicate post and not mine. I had to refresh to do so.
Now the joke is a failure, and in fact, the joke is now on me.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 2, 2011 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
Hello
As many of you know, I work with Grant Brisbee from McCovey Chronicles. We both write for our own sites, and we both write for Baseball Nation. There exists a Baseball Nation editorial chatroom in which we’re seemingly always logged.
Hello
Many as of know you, I with Grant Brisbee work from McCleary Chronicles. We write our own sites both, and both we write for the Baseball Kingdom. Apparent is the Baseball Kingdom editorial chatroom with which we’re seemingly always logged.
Hello
You know this, Grant Brisbee is my McCormick Companion. We conjure sites, and we create these for the Honkball Empire. Behold the Honkball Empire chat cell within which we are ever embroiled.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
So.... How about this weather?
70 with a light breeze? On December 2nd? Ah, California.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Great to be back after 8 years of exile in NYC, Chicago and Denver
Now to leave work early to hit some golf balls
I feel like I want to rage. Right now.
by fjm on Dec 2, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
disgusting. try 30 ish in New mexico. and i thought the desert was supposed to be warm
didnt you guys get the big wind?
by orange velvet on Dec 2, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
They’re always wearing jackets and wool caps on Breaking Bad, so I guess NM is cold sometimes.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
my guess is they filmed those in winter
I miss breaking bad.
by orange velvet on Dec 2, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
Way OT
My 3 yr old son just tried to teabag his 5 month old brother.
I don’t know whether to laugh or rage.
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
It's cool
i’m just glad the mission wasn’t completed
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
I just wish the 3 yr old didn’t try to high-five me after.
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
When he’s a teenager you can mortify him by pointing out in front of his friends that the first time his balls descended it was onto his brother’s face.
Actually, I think that story will work for either of them.
The first six innings are overrated.
now that’s just creepy
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
I’d be pretty embarrassed by those criminal charges being brought against my dad.
The first six innings are overrated.
Alas, no joke: my wife refused to take photos of the child naked, ever. That’s a little sad. I mean, I probably spent two-thirds of my waking hours in summertime when I was ages 2-4 naked.
by wcw on Dec 2, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
"daddy's in jail for watching me teabag my brother"
is game, set and match for embarrassment.
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
You mean gave him an angry lecture about the evils of socialism?
I know, I know, champagne room.
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 2, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
I told him to keep his 'man parts' to himself
does that count?
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
It’s not the teabag you have to worry about. It’s the steep time.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
OT: Chip and Claire live
the revolution came one day
and swept the upper class away
one thing prep school had not prepared them for
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"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Strangely, Google Maps just told me to take 101
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I actually just typed it in and it tells me to take I-5. Apparently The Shire and Mordor are in Washington State. They are only 135 miles and ~2 days apart walking. Why the hell did it take the Hobbits so long? I am going to blame their stubby little legs.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 2, 2011 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
they got lost looking for an In n Out
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
I think we just found Sammy Sosa
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
sitting next to 2 pushiest people in world. flat refused to sit in assigned middle seat. feigned inability to speak english tho they do
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
can of corn
Get a flight attendant if it bothers you that much asshole
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Seriously. Crying on twitter about it instead of doing something about it? Wimp.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
My thoughts exactly
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
If you replaced Heyman with Schulman I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 2, 2011 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
You would if they were sitting on your lap.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 6:27 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Yes
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
can of corn
Reyes update
@DPLennon David Lennon
Does not appear Reyes will be signing before start of winter meetings, which presumably gives #Mets time to get up to speed.
@JCRMarlinsbeat Juan C. Rodriguez
#Marlins have not given Reyes ultimatum; prepared to wait him out thru Winter Meetings.
That’ll give Sabean enough time to trade off enough relievers to Reyes
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 2, 2011 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
Where's TheLetter2?
Missing those Today updates that degenerate in political discussions.
Seriously, has poor TL2 been banished?
Unfaithful?
His profile page says he’s posted on Talking Chop the past couple of days.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 2, 2011 6:36 PM PST up reply actions
Well, by all means, let's all stalk him.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Seriously guys.
It’s been like 2 days. This is getting ridiculous. No one would care this much if I were to ever theoretically not post here for a day or so.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 2, 2011 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
I WAS GONE THE WHOLE THANKSGIVING WEEKEND AND NOBODY GAVE A DAMN
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
(least of all me)
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
I totally noticed
Well, as long as by ‘totally noticed’ you mean ‘stuffed myself with turkey and giblets’.
by wcw on Dec 2, 2011 9:25 PM PST up reply actions
The judges are telling me this is acceptable.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
WHERE THE HELL IS RESDOG?!?!?!?!
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
I would just assume you eloped with floor 2 girl.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 2, 2011 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
Or was that Alex Lewis?
Or maybe jctgamer. I don’t know. We need a spreadsheet or something.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 2, 2011 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
No, you got it right.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
It’s probably weird how much we know about each other.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 2, 2011 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
That’s sorta what I mean.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 2, 2011 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
I was thinking this a couple weeks ago.
If one were so inclined, one could create pretty freakishly and creepily comprehensive biographies of some posters by compiling posts.
Pictures, family demographics, interests in food, tv, movies, books, music, etc. Not to mention occupation, location, place of origin.
I know I have definitely revealed all of these things over the years.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
by bigboneded on Dec 2, 2011 10:29 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Oh man. So true. It wouldn’t even be that hard, you just need dedication and an excel spreadsheet.
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 2, 2011 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
El Person has the list of white people.
I only have floor plans
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Natto has the raw list for races. El Person would be able to use it to cross check his list if Natto didn’t hate him so much based on his race.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 7:14 PM PST up reply actions
I'M GETTING MARRIED TOMORROW
I’m not getting married tomorrow. Tell it to me straight, doc.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
And I haven’t been invited.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 2, 2011 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
And they’re correct. Chickens are among the funniest things on earth.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 2, 2011 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
“Has anyone in this family ever seen a chicken?”
by BestHyperboleEver on Dec 3, 2011 9:23 AM PST up reply actions
I can tell you about GiantPain caused by him. It only starts with violations of syntax.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 2, 2011 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
AND WHERE WAS GREEKFRO FOR THE PAST MONTH??!!
Rally Jerry!
Greekfro: One who takes a curiously long time to reply to a comment
McC: Its's a blog so they're a bunch of hipsters anyway-my brother
Looking at a Giants Monopoly game.
Has Alfonzo as a red property. A.J is an orange. J.T is yellow and Boardwalk is SBC Park.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Dec 2, 2011 6:27 PM PST via mobile reply actions
This seems dumb
“[Cespedes is] more likely to hit 30 homers than hit .300 and probably compares best to somebody like Cameron Maybin, but with more power if less range and speed,” said one executive. "He’s stronger and more stocky and may end up on an outfield corner in a few years, but for now he can play center field
A quote on MLBTR.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
Maybin has 22 career HRs in 1178 career PAs.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 2, 2011 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
Brilliant Strategy Sabean and Co.!
The Giants aren’t pursuing heavyweight free-agent hitters. Does that weigh in Tim Lincecum’s decision to eventually sign long term?
I asked his agent, Rick Thurman.
"I think everything is taken into consideration," Thurman said. "There are a lot of things, and that’s one component of it."
He added, "When a player is going to sign a long-term deal, there are a lot of components. He takes into consideration how long he wants to play, whether he’s away from home, the direction of the team, the relationship with coaches and manager. A lot of things."
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
That would be a "yes".
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 2, 2011 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
gah
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Every time something comes out
It seems more and more that Tim wants to leave when his deal is done and this year to year stuff is a front.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
i think the giants are trying to blame the next season on timmy and cain
and since we have no hitters there will be a blame game when we fail miserably
and the giants couldnt get hitters because timmy and cain wanted so much money
just a theory
by orange velvet on Dec 2, 2011 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
Not a good one
I seriously doubt if the Giants plan for 2012 is to have a bad season and blame it on their best pitcher’s salary demands. How paranoid can we be?
Proud owner of over 20,000 comments. (most of them in the wrong place) Oh yeah, and Buster Posey
it's winter and there is no baseball
i get really weird.
by orange velvet on Dec 2, 2011 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
My reaction to the Giants offseason
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 2, 2011 6:57 PM PST reply actions
Oh yeah, with bunnies.
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
Another excuse to post this illustration that trailers can be misleading: Shining.
I wish it made me react like this
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Jonah Hill is happy
Excited about the Nets win for the month.
Proud owner of over 20,000 comments. (most of them in the wrong place) Oh yeah, and Buster Posey
I would have gone with Andy Milonakis.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 2, 2011 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
This would be a great clip with matching opera vocals
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting.
If UCLA is flopping just to rub USC's faces in it,
I wholeheartedly approve.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
i think they're flopping because they suck
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Then I halfheartedly approve.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
It won't be us, but hey
According to Patrick Newman of NPB Tracker, at least one MLB team has bid on Japanese infielder Hiroyuki Nakajima.
The posting period for Nakajima expired Friday. According to Newman, the Seibu Lions are expected to accept the highest bid regardless of the amount. The 29-year-old batted .297 with 16 home runs, 100 RBI and 21 stolen bases this past season. It’s not clear who may have made an offer, but the Orioles have been linked to him in the past./blockquote>
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Love me some Sugar Man
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Dec 2, 2011 7:15 PM PST reply actions
I’m mentally inserting the direct address comma.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2011 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
I left the comma out by mistake
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Dec 3, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
keithlaw keithlaw
Go figure: Feds open SEC probe into Miami Marlins stadium deal hrld.us/uIzIcy via @miamiherald #BoondoggleStadium
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Yaaaa
The financing agreement to build the controversial new stadium in Little Havana left the county and city on the hook for almost 80 percent of the overall $634 million tab, which critics considered a giveaway to the Marlins. The deal was a contributing factor in the recall of Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Alvarez, who championed it.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/12/02/2529191_feds-open-sec-probe-into-miami.html#storylink=twtuser#ixzz1fRHrPStd
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
As always..
Jeffrey Loria is a piece of garbage
Due diligence by the county and city into the Marlins’ finances was a key component of auto magnate Norman Braman’s failed court fight two years ago to stop stadium construction. City and county leaders said they never required the Marlins to open their books, though the team often cried poor and argued it needed public funding to stay in South Florida.
But the team’s claim was rebuked in August 2010, when the sports website Deadspin.com revealed that the Marlins were in fact financially healthy, having received more money from baseball’s revenue-sharing system over 2008 and 2009 than anyone in baseball — and pocketing $92 million in revenue-sharing those two years, making a $33 million profit.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Again, baseball needs a salary floor not a cap.
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
Bud Selig
loves him some crooks
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
If those goes REAL bad
Maybe Bud finally gets ousted.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
ugh loria is a scumbag
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
This is going to be fun
Also, pandering to Florida for electoral votes?
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 2, 2011 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
@pgammo
Peter Gammons
8 W
30 seconds ago via txt
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Bartolo Colon had 8 Ws this year. Coincidence?
You decide.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 2, 2011 9:52 PM PST up reply actions
Also
29 people have retweeted that so far.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 2, 2011 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
I had an Ike's sandwich today
Sorry Timmy, I picked Matt Cain over you
You follow me, I'll follow you --------> http://ayeyooojerm.tumblr.com/
- SF GIants Baseball 2011 = *sigh* Home of 6 World Series Titles
- SF 49ers Football 2011-2012 = ??? Home of the 5.5 Super Bowl Champs ( Aaron Rodgers should of been a Niner)
- WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US???? NOOOOOOOOOOBODYY!!!!!!!!!!!!
- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.
So damn good.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 2, 2011 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
It was the best $10 ( I think) I spend this whole week
You follow me, I'll follow you --------> http://ayeyooojerm.tumblr.com/
- SF GIants Baseball 2011 = *sigh* Home of 6 World Series Titles
- SF 49ers Football 2011-2012 = ??? Home of the 5.5 Super Bowl Champs ( Aaron Rodgers should of been a Niner)
- WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US???? NOOOOOOOOOOBODYY!!!!!!!!!!!!
- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.
One player all McCoven can agree that the Giants should get
"We’re very open," said Athletics assistant GM David Forst to John Shea of The San Francisco Chronicle when asked if any of the club’s pitchers were untradeable. "If we didn’t have the (pitching) depth, we wouldn’t have this option." Gio Gonzalez and Andrew Bailey have been popular names, but Forst’s statement suggests Trevor Cahill and Brandon McCarthy could be had as well.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Yes please.
I would appreciate the contribution of his twitter awesomeness to the Giants
by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 2, 2011 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
Especially since
Sabean keeps trading good Giants twitter prospects.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Hahah
Jeff Gray at a Conference - Jeff Sullivan
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 2, 2011 10:21 PM PST reply actions
xbox finally banned my gamertag "duckthe fodgers"
i need some ideas for a new one. anyone????
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
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by sadison bummedgarner on Dec 2, 2011 10:25 PM PST reply actions
fuckthedodgers
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 2, 2011 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
i like your style
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Dec 2, 2011 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
mary poppins
used to be my favorite. close second: DJ Farty G.
I have a bumper sticker
“I don’t brake for Dodger Fans”
from way back when……. Use part or all of it
no copyrights
I sit and await always faithful to the giants
by luved the stick on Dec 2, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
LOL dodgers
You follow me, I'll follow you --------> http://ayeyooojerm.tumblr.com/
- SF GIants Baseball 2011 = *sigh* Home of 6 World Series Titles
- SF 49ers Football 2011-2012 = ??? Home of the 5.5 Super Bowl Champs ( Aaron Rodgers should of been a Niner)
- WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US???? NOOOOOOOOOOBODYY!!!!!!!!!!!!
- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.
I worry about some of my Facebook friends
I PUT SOUP IN BOWL….BOWL IN MICROWAVE….PRESS BEVERAGE BUTTON THINKIN SOUP IS A BEVERAGE WITH CARROTS AND RICE AND STUFF….I EMPTY OUT TRASH TRYIN TA MAKE TIME GO BY FASTER SO I CAN EAT….COME BACK TO MICROWAVE TO GET BOWL OF SOUP….SOUP NOT IN BOWL ANYMORE :(
I would de-friend him, but then I would miss out on these gems.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 2, 2011 10:38 PM PST reply actions
You should tell him that
Pizza is a vegetable.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
If one of you said anything that caused TL2 to abandon us . . .
. . . the gallinas will visit you tonight and peck you eyes out.
I’m just saying.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 2, 2011 10:50 PM PST reply actions
Gallo!
How’s it going!
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Hey, Cal.
It’s going ok. Not great, but ok. Some days are still pretty tough, even though I’ve moved beyond the mainline infusions on a daily basis.
I can’t complain, and I try not to.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 3, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
Speaking of which
How’s Owlcroft doing?
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
OT: historical artifact of the day
McCarthy’s ‘Red Sleeping Beauty’
While there’s still a world to win.
I Like
cap’n crunch, Cap’n
mouth still ravaged tho
i went with "bust her posey"
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
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by sadison bummedgarner on Dec 2, 2011 11:29 PM PST reply actions
SF Chronicle: Group sues San Jose over land deal for A's stadium
…group calling itself Stand for San Jose.
The complaint names the city, the City Council, the city Redevelopment Agency and the Diridon Development Authority.
It says the council failed to comply with California environmental law, city law requiring a public vote for the use of taxpayer dollars for a stadium, and state civil code prohibiting the illegal sale of public property.
Under city law, any final land sale and ballpark plan must be approved by San Jose voters, and no public funds may be used to build or maintain the stadium.
The council voted Nov. 8 to approve a two-year, $50,000 option for the A’s to buy the land near HP Pavilion for $6.98 million.
The group contends the land is worth at least $14 million. It describes itself as a “cross-section of San Jose individuals and organizations” and includes the San Francisco Giants’ Class A minor-league affiliate, the San Jose Giants.
AP:
Stand for San Jose, a group of concerned residents financially backed by the Giants’ Class-A San Jose club, is represented by San Francisco attorney Ronald Van Buskirk.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 3, 2011 1:01 AM PST up reply actions
Mercury News: Santa Clara, 49ers announce deal to pay for stadium
The funding deal was spelled out in a development contract that caps two-and-a-half years of closed-door negotiations between city and team leaders and essentially completes a planning process that began when the team announced interest in abandoning San Francisco five years ago.
Goldman Sachs, U.S. Bank and Bank of America have agreed to loan the city and team a combined $850 million to pay for the lion’s share of the construction, which could start as soon as next year. But critics are alarmed by a major shift in the funding plan that emerged Friday: The city will take on more than twice as much debt as was promised to voters, even though the 49ers vow they won’t leave the city holding the bag.
Revenues from the stadium, such as ticket sales, stadium naming rights and the team’s rent, are supposed to pay back most of the loans. The rest will come from the NFL, which is expected to chip in $150 million; the city’s redevelopment agency, which will contribute $40 million; and a local hotel tax expected to generate $35 million.
The price of the 68,500-seat, coliseum-style home field has jumped from $987 million to $1.02 billion, largely because of tweaks to stadium design, more refined construction estimates and inflation.
The deal calls for the 49ers to pay the city about $30 million per year to lease the city-owned land, a large increase from the previous estimate of $5 million.
The lease would last 40 years, with options to extend the deal an additional 20 years.
A billion dollars for ~10 games/year. Gonna take a lot of monster truck shows to make that work.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
baseball stadiums can make some financial sense (and that’s a big can) but I don’t understand spending all that money on football stadiums. It’s kind of insane and it’s in a parking lot so you can’t even say it’ll “revitalize a neighborhood” or any sort of crap like that
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 3, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
OT: Cuba launches Facebook clone called 'Red Social'
USA TODAY:
Cuba has launched its own Facebook-type social network called Red Social, Univision reports.
Univision’s Sandro Mairata, who writes about Latin Amerian Affairs, said the site mimics the look and feel of Facebook. The homepage, writes Mairata, bears the slogan “A virtual meeting point for Cuban universities.”
Univision quotes Carlos Alberto Perez Benitez from the blog La Chiringa de Cuba, as saying the site appears to be a project sponsored by the Ministry of Education. The site, accessible only within the island, uses this domain name: facebook.ismm.edu.cu.
A year ago, Univision notes, the government launched its own “Cuban Wikipedia” called EcuRed, that tells its own version of, well, everything.
A few of you saw this
But this SB Nation article is a hilarious read if you’re bored.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 3, 2011 12:38 AM PST reply actions
It's just like
Why?…..
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 3, 2011 1:04 AM PST up reply actions
They read like a Grant vs GP rap battle.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 3, 2011 8:23 AM PST up reply actions
John Shea: Examining the Tim Lincecum contract situation
The Giants aren’t pursuing heavyweight free-agent hitters. Does that weigh in Tim Lincecum’s decision to eventually sign long term?
I asked his agent, Rick Thurman.
"I think everything is taken into consideration," Thurman said. "There are a lot of things, and that’s one component of it."
Of course, one reason the Giants say they aren’t pursuing Albert Pujols, Prince Fielder or Jose Reyes is to have enough money to sign Lincecum and Matt Cain to multiyear deals.
Thurman said he hasn’t spoken with Giants management in a while, but that doesn’t mean the sides won’t chat at the winter meetings in Dallas, which begin Monday.
"Right now, we plan on a one-year deal for next year, and we really don’t have any expectations about a long-term contract," Thurman said.
RDF
Even though I certainly want the Giants to spend what it takes to both improve the offense and keep Lincecum, I’m not sure that what the agent is saying is fair. Theoretically, could Lincecum cost the Giants 50 million per year? Half for him and the other half spent on free agent hitting to keep Timmy happy. I think the next logical question to the agent should have been “if the Giants spend more money on offense, would Tim take less money to stay?”
Proud owner of over 20,000 comments. (most of them in the wrong place) Oh yeah, and Buster Posey
We’ll if the Giants hadn’t been at the bottom of the N.L. in offense for every season of his career except 2010, maybe he wouldn’t consider such things. He probably doesn’t believe the Giants will be committed to improving the lineup in the future aside from drafting.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 3, 2011 7:54 AM PST up reply actions
Except signing Lincecum to a huge contract as well a signing Cain to a huge contract kind of hurts their chances to also go out and sign a free agent conract
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 3, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
there’s sort of a chicken or the egg element to all of this
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 3, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Reading an article for my International Relations class about Italy and the Mediterranean
and the first sentence of a paragraph reads “Sergio Romano, a direct witness of foreign policy in that period…”
Obviously I read that as Sergio Romo being a direct witness of foreign policy in that period.
LOL Doyers
The Denver Post:
The Rockies are out on Roy Oswalt, but not out of the running for a veteran starter to stabilize the rotation. They have quietly pursued free-agent right-hander Hiroki Kuroda, believing they have a decent shot based on preliminary conversations.
Kuroda will be 37 on Feb. 10. He has attracted interest from 10 teams, including nearly the entire National League West. In a steady season with the Dodgers, Kuroda went 13-16 with a 3.07 ERA.
Can’t see why he’d willingly choose to pitch at Coors Field. Why don’t the GIants…oh wait, Zito and RDF, never mind.
I don't get why the Dodgers are letting him go
he’s really good
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Matt Cain syndrome
He’s 41-46 in his MLB career despite a 3.45 ERA
LOL Scioscia
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
#BlueJays on verge of trading LHP Mis to #Angels for C Mathis. #MLB
This is what good GMs do. Take away the manager’s toys that he uses to stab himself in the eye.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I thought the Jays’ GM AA was a sabermetrics guy? This move doesn’t reflect that.
Wilber Bucardo: Missing?
by gianator on Dec 3, 2011 9:29 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Ya a little weird on the Blue Jays end
Because Mathis was probably going to get non-tendered. Maybe they think Mathis can teach Arrencibia some stuff.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I believe that he, like Brian Sabean, was a scouting director before he was a GM.
He seems a lot smarter than Sabean, though.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
On the first day of Christmas my true love sent to me......
Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
I know it's Passan but there's no opinions just really interesting facts like this one
3. Votto’s ability to avoid popouts might be more impressive than Kendrick and Young’s.
The reigning National League MVP is following his perfect 2010 with a near-perfect 2011. He had the temerity to pop out once this year, giving him one in 1,010 at-bats over the last two seasons. It’s doubly noteworthy because Votto frequently drives the ball in the air, accumulating 130 extra-base hits during that span.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-passan_25_things_you_did_not_know_about_baseball_082511
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
LOL ACADEMIC
Only two hitters have stunk against every pitch. (And one of them isn’t Adam Dunn! Bless the curveball, against which he’s 2.2 runs ahead.) Shortstops Orlando Cabrera(notes) and Yuniesky Betancourt(notes) are the winners in the couldn’t-hit-a-softball sweepstakes.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
the past and future shortstop
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
SORRY LAST ONE
Sergio Romo is good
Brian Wilson(notes)? So passé. Over the last half-decade, nobody has destroyed right-handed hitting like Giants setup reliever Sergio Romo(notes) is this season. His 47.9 percent strikeout rate against right-handed batters is the highest since Brad Lidge(notes) struck out 50.3 percent of righties in 2004. And Romo’s 0.48 FIP (Fielding Indpendent Pitching) vs. right-handers is the best since Eric Gagne’s steroid-addled 2003 season, in which he broke FIP by posting a -0.04.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I would have guessed more than 6.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Dec 3, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
the weddings
What about the weddings? Gals wanna know.
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