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Uninformed Trade-Mongering, Vol I: Alexei Ramirez

Jim Bowden has a column up suggesting that the Giants trade Heath Hembree, Eric Surkamp, and Ehire Adrianza to the White Sox for Gordon Beckham. I'd like to think that Sabean is pals with him, and that they two are exchanging all sorts of texts with lols, omgs, and no u's right now. There might be a player worth three of the top ten prospects in a thin system. Beckham isn't one of them. He's a non-tender candidate next year, not a centerpiece.

Beckham isn't a shortstop anymore, and he's a pretty lousy hitter for a starter -- last year was something like Manny Burriss with 10-homer power. That's before we even get to Former All-Star and Batting Champion Freddy Sanchez's imminent return, where he'll make several million dollars to be fully healthy and just as good as new. It's just a nonsensical trade idea.

Let's pause and reflect that there are some here among us who decried the selection of Buster Posey in the 2008 draft. Some of you preferred Beckham. I know who you are. There will be a day of reckoning for you and your ill-formed opinions.

Star-divide

But the White Sox are intriguing trade partners. Mark Buehrle is gone, and Sergio Santos was traded away. And while I'd love to see an Adam Dunn for Zito swap -- put him at short! -- the Giants-bait on the White Sox roster is their shortstop, Alexei Ramirez. Before we go any further, it's a good idea to remind everyone that Ramirez isn't a great hitter. He's pretty okay for his position.

Edgar Renteria, final season with the Giants: .276/.332/.374, OPS+ 93
Alexei Ramirez, 2011: .269/.328/.399, OPS+ 97

At no point before Game 5 were we thinking, "Man, all we had to give for this Renteria guy was money?!? He's AWESOME!" A .330ish OBP with just a hint of power isn't exciting. It's cromulent. No more, no less. As a high-profile, gut-the-farm-to-save-the-offense move, trading for Alexei Ramirez wouldn't work.

But Renteria also preceded Tejada and Orlando Cabrera, who were like the Ghosts of Summer Future. In this version, the GM makes the same moves over and over and over, getting visits from 12 different ghosts before they give up. But we're scared straight, alright. We know what a bad shortstop looks like, whereas we only thought we did before.

A lot of Alexei's value comes from his defense, which is hardly exciting, especially when Brandon Crawford is just fine in that department. But where Crawford will struggle to ever hit better than Renteria at his worst, Ramirez is pretty danged average with the bat already. The best comp for a Giants fan would be Rich Aurilia, minus the absurd 2001. A little power, perfectly fine with the glove, and a good chance at being a starting first baseman for the Giants in a decade.

So what would you give for Ramirez? That's the problem: The White Sox would ask for Gary Brown, the Giants would say no, and then they'd both race to see who could hang up faster. I honestly don't think there's a fit for the two teams. Ramirez is under contract for four years and $32.5 million -- perfectly reasonable. There's no reason the White Sox should be in a rush to trade him, and if they can't pry a top prospect from a team, why bother?

That's all true. But something else that's true: Kenny Williams is crazy. He's the kind of guy who could raise a son who wears too much white on his shoes. Yeah. Crazy. Well, maybe not in the classical sense, but he's certainly not predictable. And I can see the idea of Heath Hembree rattling around in his brain until he snaps.

I don't know what a smart offer would be. Maybe start with Zack Wheeler, toss in Thomas Neal, and go from there. But if there's any chance that the White Sox would trade Alexei for something like what Bowden was offering on the Giants' behalf, I'd hope they'd would seriously consider breaking into the rainy-day fund for that. As a realistic, somewhat-inexpensive option for the next couple of seasons, there probably isn't a shortstop in baseball who makes more sense.

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Fantastic news! Dude battled back—godspeed.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 15, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Hell yeah.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 15, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

somebody has good news?
/frantically hits the up button

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

wow cool
first pitch… Home Opener…
make it so

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Amazing!

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2011 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice!

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 15, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

MEH

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by mhad on Dec 15, 2011 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Cool

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Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.

by Giant among Angels on Dec 15, 2011 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

BRIAN WILLIAMS NEWS BRIAN WILLIAMS NEWS BRIAN WILLIAMS NEWS

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by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope he throws out the first pitch next year!

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Dec 15, 2011 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Why trade for Alexei at 4/32 when you could just sign Rollins at 4-40ish?

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2011 2:01 PM PST reply actions  

That’s assuming he could be had for that amount.

by Every6thDay on Dec 15, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I expect Rollins to fall off a cliff.

Ramirez, not so much. I’d still like Rollins, don’t get me wrong, but given the choice between the two …

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 15, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah.

I’d like a Ramirez a lot more than a Rollins.

by dregarx on Dec 15, 2011 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Allegedly coming off wrist surgery? That has Sabes written all over it

Matt Cain is better than you, but apparently not cool enough for Showtime.

by homegrowntalent on Dec 15, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t Rollins fall off a cliff a few years back?

Irrational Conor Gillaspie fanboy.

by Electric on Dec 15, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

He's been climbing his way back up.

He’s like Sisyphus.

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by mhad on Dec 15, 2011 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

A .330 OBP would probably be among the top three in our lineup next year.

Matt Cain is better than you, but apparently not cool enough for Showtime.

by homegrowntalent on Dec 15, 2011 2:04 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah, I just didn’t want to go all debbie-the-downer this early in the thread, but that should read “would probably lead the Giants”

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by homegrowntalent on Dec 15, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

He’d be hitting either lead off or 2nd so that is a good thing.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 15, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely.

A .330 OBP on this team is nothing to sneeze at.

Matt Cain is better than you, but apparently not cool enough for Showtime.

by homegrowntalent on Dec 15, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Well he’d be hitting there due to his defensive position but yeah .330 would certainly be welcome.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 15, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice.

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by homegrowntalent on Dec 15, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Not sure about that

Pagan or Cabrera will be leading off and the #2 spot is reserved for Sanchez. He only gets a shot there when Sanchez gets injured.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw Alexei play

at the mausoleum known as U.S. Cellular Field in his rookie (2008) season. He launched one of his 21 homers and had good range, although his arm was a bit erratic. I wouldn’t mind having him but I don’t see Kenny Williams trading him without a replacement, and how much are we really willing to give up that Williams wants?

I afraid this is one of those deals (as Grant says from the start “Mongering”) that is pure rosterbation. Kinda like the one I have for Joey Votto . . .

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by wcovington on Dec 16, 2011 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope, doesn’t play CF or 2nd base.

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by Soulbrother16 on Dec 15, 2011 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe this comment was hyperbole, but...

…I think there will be at least 4 Giants who have a OBP of better than .330 in 2012:

Posey, Panda, Sanchez and pick from Huff, Cabrera, Pagan (all of whom have better than .330 career OBP

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by Goofus on Dec 16, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Belt will too. He was at .306 last year while only hitting .225.

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 16, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Belt won’t qualify.

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by El Person on Dec 16, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

The question with Sanchez has always been how many games will he play.

If it’s a .330 OBP over 40 games it doesn’t really help.

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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by scout6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

It's interesting that people like Sanchez is made out of glass

but yet thinks Beltran will play for a full year.

Last 3 years, Beltran has played 287 games, Sanchez has played 282.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

people think Sanchez...

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree with this. Frankly, it speaks volumes about this fanbase (or site) that Beltran is seen as the answer. Whoever gets him will probably get a microcosm of his 2 months with the Giants – injured for half the time, excellent for half the time, not enough to help.

There you go, I projected something!

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 16, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

The only thing that speaks volumes

is attributing any one thing to entire fanbase or site.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

You’re right, Lars, I take that part back.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 16, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I will go on record here as saying that at this point, I don’t want them to sign Beltran (unless of course his market comes crashing way down, but that applies to pretty much anyone capable of putting up + war numbers)

The way the roster stands now, if Beltran signs with the Giants, Belt doesn’t play, probably doesn’t even make the team. I don’t believe the difference between Beltran and Belt is great enough to justify the money they’d be spending on Beltran.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 16, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I respectfully disagree

If we can get Beltran for around $10M a year for 2 years with a third year club option, I say sign him. That will free up deals to move Nate and still give Belt breathing room. Even 120 games a year from Beltran’s bat will be well worth it.

Don't believe everything you think.

by wcovington on Dec 16, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

That doesn't really tell the story.

Sanchez:
2009: 111
2010: 111
2011: 60

Beltran:
2009: 81
2010: 64
2011: 142

One of these is not like the other. One of these is more recently healthy.

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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by scout6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Come on

Sanchez was injured while diving for a ball and it happened to be a season ending injuries.

Beltran had major knee surgery three years ago and has had multiple DL trips because of his knees.

I would say that the risk is about equal.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, it was a season-ending injury because Sanchez is fragile. Normal players don’t get hurt on that.

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by El Person on Dec 16, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

One of these things is not like the other...
Sanchez was injured while diving for a ball and it happened to be a season ending injuries.
Beltran had major knee surgery three years ago and has had multiple DL trips because of his knees.

one is a routine play for a second baseman, and one was surgery.

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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by scout6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

What was the play that Beltran hurt his knee on? Or is it some kind of degenerative thing?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 16, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes

cause players never sustain season ending injuries on seemingly routine plays.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Can you think of any position players who have? I mean, do you want Flappy back?

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by speckops on Dec 16, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Haven't lots of players slid into bases

and either broken their wrists or torn up their knee/ankle?

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by Goofus on Dec 16, 2011 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Wut

That SO does not support your argument.

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by speckops on Dec 16, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't remember if I preferred Beckham

But I didn’t like the Posey selection.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2011 2:06 PM PST reply actions  

“…and with the sixth pick, the San Francisco Giants select Garaldine Posey”

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 15, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

The Sox love Alexei way too much to give him up for anything less than...

3 of our top 4 prospects.

I was at a Chicago White Sox game last season and I started a conversation about the team with one of fans and they say that aside from Konerko, the “Cuban Missile” is their best position player.

I would love 15 HRs and .330 OBP from our SS, but I think it would be impossible to pry him away from the Sox this season or the next.

by djfivenine on Dec 15, 2011 2:06 PM PST reply actions  

Crazy like a fox?

1. Kenny Williams bites Sabean.
2. Sabean gets rabies.
3. ????
4. Profit!

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 15, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Brian would turn into a Kenny Williams doppelganger whenever the moon was full.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh...shit.

4. Profit!

4. Malaise.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 15, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

4. Profit!
4. Malaise

4 . Dysentery !!!

or racoons raid stash. I am not sure which.

Just trying to gruntle my Giants baseball Jones in the least destructive way available.

2010 was just a dream.can I have another please?

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2011 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

It probably isn’t true, but I sometimes feel like Kenny Williams is the only GM in baseball now would non-ironically inquire about Barry Zito.

The ironic hipster GMs, of course, haven’t stopped texting Sabean about Zito since the day he signed him.

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Dec 15, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

No wonder he never answers their phone calls anymore.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey Brian..Zduriencik here…just wondered what it would take for you to let go of Zeets..How about Felix..seems like a fair de…sorry man I was laughing so hard I couldn’t type any more.

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by nvsfg on Dec 15, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I would love 15 HRs and .330 OBP from our SS

Well, if you could lower your expectations on OBP just a tad you could have Yuni Betancourt for almost nothing.

RIP 2011 Giants Post Season

by Cody_ransom on Dec 15, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

In this version, the GM makes the same moves over and over and over, getting visits from 12 different ghosts before they give up.

This made me LOL.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2011 2:07 PM PST reply actions  

His nickname is Cuban Missile

Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 15, 2011 2:09 PM PST reply actions  

IIRC he hit a gut punch home run against the Giants once.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 15, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Er. Is that what your picture is?

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by jhiat00 on Dec 15, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

That looks like a detroit catcher.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re probably right. E6D linked to the homerun below and it was at AT&T.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 15, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I remember that HR it was extra innings and had serious playoff implications, if not a playoff game itself.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 15, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh man 1st career home run. I remember thinking he probably can’t hit for much power because of how skinny he is.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 15, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Cuban Jazz Hands!

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 15, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I JUST WANNA SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Alexei Ramirez is white?

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by leftymalo on Dec 15, 2011 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't want to give anyone up

but I want to continue the tradition of getting a random veteran SS that’s only slightly less mediocre than the one we have, for 10 times the price. That sounds like a plan!

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 2:10 PM PST reply actions  

only slightly less mediocre than the one we have

You valuation of Crawford is seriously out of whack with his ability; and that is even considering his defense.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2011 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Crawford will make Nick Punto look like an All-Star

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm just trolling y'all.

But seriously, what about the payroll? They’d have to send more than prospects and that’s where it gets sticky.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Brian Sabean lives for sticky

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude's a 4-WAR shortstop.

If the Giants acquire him, I can’t see anybody really complaining about the deal. They’re very close to all-in with the Beltran trade as it is anyways.

by dregarx on Dec 15, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

It depends on who they give up.

I’m sure there would be screaming if it was Cain.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I would too, but why in the world would one assume that a contending team looking to improve the roster would trade anything but prospects for a positional upgrade?

by dregarx on Dec 15, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Because of the $130M/RDF. For that price, they could have had Beltran.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, they'd have to cut payroll somewhere.

But I don’t think it’ll be money paid to Matt Cain!

by dregarx on Dec 15, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but how many prospects would you have to send to make up the $8m per?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

A great deal of prospect value.

Which is why Grant says the teams are not a good fit.

by dregarx on Dec 15, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Right

so why even bother bringing it up?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Guillermo Mota is the second-largest free agent signing this team has made

If we don’t talk about hypothetical trade scenarios, what’s left?

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Holy smokes

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Gee, why did you bring it up, Grant?
That’s all true. But something else that’s true: Kenny Williams is crazy. Yeah. Crazy. Well, maybe not in the classical sense, but he’s certainly not predictable. And I can see the idea of Heath Hembree rattling around in his brain until he snaps.

Ah, yes.

by dregarx on Dec 15, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Jim Bowden has a column up suggesting that the Giants trade Heath Hembree, Eric Surkamp, and Ehire Adrianza to the White Sox for Gordon Beckham.

by Every6thDay on Dec 15, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Another columnist in the off season trying to think up something to write. I don’t envy them.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

You could clear salary space by moving Affeldt and Fontenot

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by Goofus on Dec 16, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

And if the White Sox are rebuilding.

They’d rather have the prospects than Cain.

by dregarx on Dec 15, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

there is no way that is true.

in case you havent noticed the White Sox go from rebuilding to contending as often as Brian Wilson dyes his beard. Next offseason they will be in contender mode.

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

If the White Sox are rebuilding=> They'd prefer prospects.

Is absolutely a true statement.

That’s the way if-then statements work.

If it is the case that the White Sox aren’t actually rebuilding, then the statement is still true.

by dregarx on Dec 15, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Are the White Sox ever rebuilding? They seem like the Giants in that respect.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

this would assume that Kenny Williams wasn't Crazy

but Grant already told us he was.

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Ramirez is 30, brah.

Past his prime, sure, but hardly creaky. There’s a difference between a vet who can play and a vet who’s halfway to a retirement home. Ramirez and Renteria represent that difference.

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by mhad on Dec 15, 2011 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Alexi Ramirez is way too good to be on the Giants.

A couple tings stand out…

he has a great glove, he actually can put together a competent season at the plate, he is signed to a really reasonable contract, and he plays a premium position, and he is only 30.

Look for the Ramirez signing in 2019.

Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.

by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 2:11 PM PST reply actions  

This is correct

And Crawford isn’t even going to come close to a competent season at the plate.

So to summarize: About the same glove with a WAY better bat than what the Giants currently have.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

This.

RIP 2011 Giants Post Season

by Cody_ransom on Dec 15, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I was squarely in the Gordon Beckham camp, and I certainly concede that I was very wrong about him versus Buster Posey. So yes, I am one of those people you were alluding to.

In my defense, let me add that I thought drafting Tim Beckham was a poor idea, and drafting him first overall was INSANE. I stand by that assessment.

So yeah, when do we get Gordon? After next season? Cool.

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by Lyle on Dec 15, 2011 2:13 PM PST reply actions  

I still think Beckham will be OK.

He was rushed.

Think: Alex Gordon.

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by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually would be very happy to pick him up cheaply.

And I keep meaning to tell you that I LOVE your Bible verse!

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by Lyle on Dec 15, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

If I am not mistaken in my Sunday School memories, the passage is about over-priced, broken-down, too-old, veteran free agents.

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by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

hahahaha holy shit

14 a messenger came to Job and said, "The oxen were plowing and the donkeys were grazing nearby,
15 and the Sabeans attacked and made off with them. They put the servants to the sword, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you!"

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

“We hope to hell to score 4+ runs a game,” Sabean said.

by Every6thDay on Dec 15, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless of course you mean “run” in a singular fashion. In that case it would totally apply.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I meant it in a singular fashion, but I’m happy to change it to what you meant because that was a funny comment.

by Every6thDay on Dec 15, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Hope like hell.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 15, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

that quote proves he is a not operating with a fully functioning brain...

gee golly gosh i hope like hell we can score 4 runs a game, nothing from or past or present suggests that we will, but dang it if we just hope harder it could happen. I would rather have the little black kid from angels in the outfield running the team.

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Might as well have Danny Glover coach too.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 15, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Many teams operate in a reality-based environment

The Giants, however, are proud members of the faith-based community.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes. I include the verse for ironicalness.

I am whole-heartedly not a Christian.

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by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Job is in the Old Testament

You don’t need to be a Christian

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by RDreamer on Dec 15, 2011 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

the book of job brings the lulz

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2011 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

The leviathan and the behemoth are particularly noteworthy

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by RDreamer on Dec 15, 2011 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

i love that part

Job: “Dude, what the hell did you do that for?”
God: “I can create fucking LEVIATHANS, don’t question me.”

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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by jponry on Dec 15, 2011 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

The book of Job is a great story of a man clinging to faith in the face of overwhelming adversity

and also proof that God when He wishes can be the world’s biggest troll. When Job asks what he did to deserve his fate, God pretty much replies “LOL U MAD BRO”

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by RDreamer on Dec 15, 2011 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Dec 15, 2011 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Jehovah really comes out looking bad in that one.

Plus, if he’s the one true god, who is he betting with? And isn’t betting a bad thing?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:41 PM PST up reply actions  

ask Pete Rose

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by James Westfall on Dec 16, 2011 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I like the theology of the Book of Job. In that story, Satan is really only God’s prosecuting attorney.

Mark DeRosa , he had his moments.

by oldjacket on Dec 16, 2011 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Sorry to carry over the movie talk from last thread

but why does the Tintin movie need a director like Steven Speilberg? What is he directing?

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 2:14 PM PST reply actions  

He's directing the performances of actors for motion capture purposes. I believe this is his first attempt at the format.

It was an experiment for him. He could also attach his name to an international property that will make millions upon millions of dollars for him and the studio.

by Every6thDay on Dec 15, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably more latter than the former

probably why Peter Jackson is the producer.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe that works for most directors, but Spielberg is pretty good at making both parts equal.

This could’ve been another comic strip/book shot live action, but they didn’t do that. And the motion capture process isn’t that much cheaper (rumored budget is $130+ million).

He was asked to just slap his name on Terra Nova. He did do that but also gave input. He is definitely up for a challenge.

by Every6thDay on Dec 15, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

With motion capture, you still need animators to go back and fine-tune the results to make them look natural, so it’s not exactly the 1:1 translation that they usually portray. Either way, you still need a director to give the voice actors guidance.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d like to think that the man has standards. He wouldn’t attach his name to a poorly-directed film.

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by mhad on Dec 15, 2011 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

In addition to providing the overall vision and creative direction within every scene.

by BestHyperboleEver on Dec 15, 2011 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

In addition to this, a director’s job is not limited to working with the actors.

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 15, 2011 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh

a 3rd MIB.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I would do Brown, Joseph, Hembree, and Gillaspie for Starlin Castro instead.

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by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 2:14 PM PST reply actions  

I like Castro

but his glove is made out of clank.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

no field, good hit < good field, no hit?

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by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

but as compared to getting Ramirez?

I mean if you are going good hit no field, you should go after A. Cabrera.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Asdrubal Cabrera is an above average defender.

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

jk

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

not according to either Baseball Reference or Fangraph.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

i was kidding

his range and UZR are weak, but he does have soft hands and can start a sick DP.

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Good joke.

Surely you wouldn’t have made an assertion without first confirming the evidence behind it.

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by mhad on Dec 15, 2011 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

haha yeah that was a hilarious joke...one of my best

i actually was watching this over and over again dreaming of a better place….http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f1IS_EQZoA

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by James Westfall on Dec 16, 2011 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

They are pretty similar, except for age.

That 5 year difference will be big in 10 years.

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by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Ramirez is a very good fielder and just a step below Castro offensively. Castro is likely going to be a 3B pretty soon.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

21 year old 3WAR SS

Nothing smells of superstar for next 15 years there

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Dec 15, 2011 8:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Nah

The Giants are all set at SS.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2011 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Hell Naw.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Brown is worth a whole lot more by the time he reaches arbitration compared to Castro in his own time. Plus whatever Hembree adds, and if Joseph pans out…

That’s a lot of cost controlled talent. Upon review, I think you are either trolling or insane.

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by mhad on Dec 15, 2011 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d like to see a season above A ball to make a determination either way. It is way too early to annoint him as the CF of the future.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2011 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Are we really close enough to contending that we should consider trading prosepects?

Thank God for the NL West, I suppose.

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by homegrowntalent on Dec 15, 2011 2:20 PM PST reply actions  

You saw what happened with the Cardinals last year and the Giants in 2010.

There really is no dominant team in MLB anymore. Everyone has flaws.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Pitching keeps them in the race. Yes, I know it’s not reliable year to year, but the talent is there, for the most part.

by Every6thDay on Dec 15, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Um, yes?

The Giants are a pretty damn good team.

by dregarx on Dec 15, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think they contend in the NL East

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by homegrowntalent on Dec 15, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

They get near 100 wins?

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by homegrowntalent on Dec 15, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

If the giants are in, I don't necessarily think everyone's at 100 wins

I think it’s closer to 94-95. Giants win like 86, and finish 3rd, but give a run at it for a while.

by Cap M on Dec 15, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

As of today, the way the lineup is set up...

I don’t think we sniff 86 wins in any division

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by homegrowntalent on Dec 15, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

You are too gloomy for my tastes

I will go back to smelling the lavender hidden in my backpack.

by Cap M on Dec 15, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

That is a ridiculously low estimate of the team's ability.

I think their talent level lies just above that, not way below that.

by dregarx on Dec 15, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Good golly

Giants won 86 games last year with a injury depleted lineup.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay.

You guys are cheering me up.

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by homegrowntalent on Dec 15, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

underated

Posey and Panda. Those guys are awesome.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Dec 15, 2011 8:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Teams are not as good as their previous year.

You’re looking at team-wide regression for the Phillies, as well as the fact that they are generally an old team so they will experience that sort of decline, and likely the losses of Rollins and Oswalt.

The Phillies’ talent level is closer to 90 wins than 100 wins, and the Giants can definitely contend with that.

by dregarx on Dec 15, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I know, I know.

This offseason has just bummed me out. And I’m terrified of the pitching fall off an injury riddled cliff.

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by homegrowntalent on Dec 15, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

What strikes me funny...

is that Sabean’s “Bonds Plan” would work NOW with our pitching staff.

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by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

This.

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by homegrowntalent on Dec 15, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

sabean is a mental midget

he might be crazier/dumber than kenny williams

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Sabean is a proud ignoramus and Williams is an intelligent psychopath

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by Cody_ransom on Dec 15, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

sabean's pride is so bright he has to wear shades

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Sabean is a proud ignoramus

I prefer “arrogant prick with his head up his ass.”

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by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Le fixe

he IS might be crazier/dumber than kenny williams

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by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Kenny Williams has been pretty average as a GM. 3 playoff appearances and 1 WS since 2000. Average wins in the low to mid 80s in one of the worst divisions in baseball.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

ORLY

Except that the “Bonds” in said “Bonds Plan” didn’t exist simultaneously with said “pitching staff.” Chronology is a bitch like that.

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by mhad on Dec 15, 2011 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

And so are you.

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 15, 2011 6:05 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

haha

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2011 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

At least I wasn’t making a personal attack.

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by mhad on Dec 15, 2011 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

me thinks the DisastrousOne was just making a joke.

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Or a compliment. I think it’s one of those hip-hop things.

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by leftymalo on Dec 15, 2011 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s only a personal attack if you take it personally.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

BRO

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Since Chi Sox are in full on rebuild

I don’t know who we could really give up realistically. Gary Brown is kind of rough to part with since our needs for CF are going to be just as dire as they are for SS in a couple years, maybe even next year, but if you wanted to package Runzo the wonder dog, a solid catching prospect, and something/someone else to sweeten the deal and it works, awesome, but I fear any deal they’d actually take would not work

by Cap M on Dec 15, 2011 2:25 PM PST reply actions  

Cool story bro.

This offseason sucks if all we have to talk about is potential trades that won’t happen.

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by Giant_in_la_area on Dec 15, 2011 2:27 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

This

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

could you imagine

what this site would be like if they actually did analysis and had statistical research backing up anything…it might actually be worth reading.

This just in…if the Giants trade 9 out of their top 10 prospects and either matt cain and or Tim Lincecum or Madison Bumgarner they might be able to get Adrian Gonzalez.!

Discuss.

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd for the irony

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by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

RIP JT Jordan

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

What ever happened to him?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

He posted a picture a few days ago, so clearly he still exists.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

He promised us so much.

I was hoping to finally understand WAR. (Although, you guys helped me today, thanks.)

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Brisbee jacked his account to do it

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by speckops on Dec 15, 2011 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out, champ.

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 15, 2011 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude, it’s Dec. 15 in an off-season in which the team announced it won’t sign anybody else. Trades, however unlikely, are pretty much all we got.

by Dan from NM on Dec 15, 2011 6:52 PM PST up reply actions  

your right

we should do an open mic night

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by James Westfall on Dec 16, 2011 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s a long offseason. It gets tricky to mix shit up and write a daily post for a team that’s shutting it down for the offseason.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 15, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Gatorade vs. Power Water

discuss.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 15, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

We don’t really talk about the Giants much anyway, why worry, Grant? Just make us laugh, we’ll follow you anywhere.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

like a blind puppy dog.

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

We still have All-Sport up here!

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by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I was never really a fan, although I appreciate John K.’s contributions to animation.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

TBF, I’ve never seen Pink & the Brain.

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by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

then how dare you madam

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I just love Ren & Stimpy.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven’t seen that show in such a long time. I wish they would still show good things on those channels.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I would lend you my DVDs if I could.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

That's sweet.

I’ve heard it’s good. Is it on Netflix?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, that will change.

Eventually, it all comes to streaming. I did begin watching Avatar: The Last Airbender.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

NICE

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s definitely for kids. But I like it so far. Nice worldbuilding. Fun characters. Not too annoyingly screamy for anime.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Can it be anime if it’s all written and produced in the US? I don’t think so.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, it has an anime feel to it.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you proud of your prejudice? Does it make you happy?

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 15, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Imagine a cartoon Condoleeza Rice in mouse form, and she wants to rule the world, but she’s stuck with a half wit for a sidekick.

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 15, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Or...

you could imagine the Giants pitching staff trying to win a world series with the 2011 version of the offense. The injuries stand in for the zany, crappy coincidences that always kept Brain from achieving total world domination.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Dec 15, 2011 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?

I think so Brain, but isn’t Burriss better leadoff than in the two hole?

by Hyoton on Dec 16, 2011 8:10 AM PST up reply actions  

This

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

VEHEMENT DISAGREE

So depends on what you’re looking for. One of the great things about the Animaniacs is that virtually every skit had an educational underpinning. Ren and Stimpy…. Not so much. I would much rather my kids watch Animaniacs over Ren and Stimpy.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t whizz on the electric fence!

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha!

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 6:26 AM PST up reply actions  

This is probably the best idea ever.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:11 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

If I do something like that, do I get to keep the vote money?

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 15, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

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by bernardking on Dec 16, 2011 10:46 PM PST up reply actions  

But, I guess for some, you shouldn’t even bother to try.

by Every6thDay on Dec 15, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Or...You could do that?

I’m sure no one would notice.

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by TGOH on Dec 15, 2011 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps he means this?

This goes out to all the early morning nerds.

I stumbled upon this fun li’l tidbit before the sun rose: The Rays had the second worst BABIP in the league (tied at three decimals with the Giants), but had 1 of the league’s only 9 teams with above average hitting (over a 100 wRC+, that is).

Only two ways you can do that: (1) dingers and (2) great OBP skills.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 15, 2011 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

i do

i go there when i want to read about baseball…

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by James Westfall on Dec 16, 2011 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't envy you because of that.

We all know it sucks right now. At least you give us a place to congregate.

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by Giant_in_la_area on Dec 15, 2011 4:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Jeff Sullivan would have no problem.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Am I so crazy to think that a long offseason is possibly one of the best things that could happen to this organization?

Last year there hardly WAS an offseason, the hysteria lasted so long. We all need a rest.

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by mhad on Dec 15, 2011 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s all true. But something else that’s true: Kenny Williams is crazy. He’s the kind of guy who could raise a son who wears too much white on his shoes. Yeah. Crazy.

I wonder if there’s anyone on the Giants who’s been fined for wearing wrong-colored shoes.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 2:30 PM PST reply actions  

Its so sad

Those shoes were awesome before the marker got a hold of them.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Dec 15, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Let's rosterbate.

CF Pagan
SS Ramirez
C Posey
3B Sandoval
1B Belt (LOL)
LF Melky
RF Nate
2B Sanchez

Not great, not bad.

Throw Beltran in there in place of Nate and move im to third and slide everyone down and you’ve got something.

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by Cody_ransom on Dec 15, 2011 2:33 PM PST reply actions  

I don’t know about great, but it’s serviceable.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I do happen to have a higher estimate of Posey, Belt, and Huff than most.

by dregarx on Dec 15, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t expect Posey to ever have the sort of power he had in 2010 again.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Due to the injury? Falloff? Or you thought it was a fluke? I’m a little worried about this too.

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by homegrowntalent on Dec 15, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

The injury might have an effect, but it seems like a fluke. He never showed that power in the minor leagues; it came out of nowhere.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah but Buster Posey.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 15, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Some portion of that power is flukey.

Some portion of it is be developed power. Nobody really knows what those proportions are.

by dregarx on Dec 15, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

What?

His ISO in the minors was around 200. His ISO in 2010 was 200.

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by Azmanz on Dec 15, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure

but his A+ ball line was: .326/.428/.540

and why wouldn’t his power numbers go up as he gets to his late 20s and has more MLB experience.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

They should.

But not that much. I hope he retains about 80% of that power but expect it to be more like 60%.

by dregarx on Dec 15, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

You really don’t want to be citing his Cal League stats as a counter example to a hitter friendly league.

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by speckops on Dec 15, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

ISO doesn’t translate 1:1 from the minor leagues to the major leagues.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Buster’s minor-league numbers are even more inflated because he never played in AA; virtually his entire minor-league career was spent in the hitters’ paradises of the Pacific Coast and California Leagues.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

He has just as many AB's in the pros as the minors.

At this point it’s hard to say which was a fluke.

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by Azmanz on Dec 15, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, the minors are also professional

But he was never supposed to have this kind of power based on scouting reports; moreover, his ISO isn’t .200 across all his major-league at-bats, only 2010. His 2011 ISO was .105, which might be a little low but seems more reasonable.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

He wasn’t supposed to have power like that so soon, but saying he was never supposed to have that kind of power isn’t true.

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by homegrowntalent on Dec 15, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I might be remembering wrong, but I don’t recall anyone ever pegging him as a power hitter.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I may be as well, but I remember hearing that he would have to grow into his power.

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by homegrowntalent on Dec 15, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

But is

.500 Slg and .200 constitute a “power hitter”

That’s Alex Gordon numbers

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Hunter Pence

had an ISO of .188 and .502 Slg in 2011. I don’t consider him a power hitter.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

With all due respect.

Your consideration doesn’t really mean anything. He’s hit 20+ HRs each of the last 4 years. Dude’s got some pop.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I am not saying that Gordon sucks

but I don’t consider him a “power hitter”

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

he also is a great defender

which any pitcher would like manning LF

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Those are also the numbers Juan Uribe put up in 2009. I would call that hitting for power.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

A .150 ISO might be reasonable (that’s what Joe Mauer’s done), but .200 is more than Posey can do consistently.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Mauer was never a power guy

even in the minors

minor career slash of .330/.406/.427

He had 47 homers in 5 years excluding 2011 and his 28 homer in 2009.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

You said the power came out of nowhere.

It’s not like he was slapping the ball in AAA and suddenly started driving in out of major league ballparks against major league pitching. The guy has hit at every level. What makes you think that’s not true about the majors as well? The evidence seems to support the power.

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by mhad on Dec 15, 2011 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Players who put up a .200 ISO in the California League and the Pacific Coast League don’t do that in the National League.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

he also led the NCAA in HRs his last year in college.

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 15, 2011 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

?

Buster had a slash of .333/.427/.542 in the minors and an ISO of about .200.

He hit .305/.357/.505 in 2010 with a .200 ISO.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Nor I.

But he won’t be too far off.

by dregarx on Dec 15, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

this sounds like what people were saying about Panda last off season.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

The issues there were different

That said, I did predict that he would hit .300 with 25 home runs.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Different in a way

but losing 40 lbs took a lot of effort. Might be comparable to coming back from an injury.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps

I was more referring to 2010 being potentially flukish, though.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

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by speckops on Dec 15, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I would tend to agree.

But I do remember seeing somewhere that it’s much harder to predict the power numbers of players with good opposite field power (like Posey). I believe it was a Fangraphs piece. So that’s something.

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by TGOH on Dec 15, 2011 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Throw Huff in there though...

And BOOM!

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by homegrowntalent on Dec 15, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Boom?

Is that the sound of the bottom falling out? Or a bubble bursting?

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by Cody_ransom on Dec 15, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

It's the sound of the buttons on his shirt popping off

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by nvsfg on Dec 15, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

It's the sound of the dynamite going

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by Goofus on Dec 16, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Not to mention Huff is exercising like a mother fucker!

POW!

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by jhiat00 on Dec 15, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Best shape of his… never mind.

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by homegrowntalent on Dec 15, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

best shape of his life

i heard vlade divac smoked during the season and that worked out.

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Divac smoked during t.v. timeouts.

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by homegrowntalent on Dec 15, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

and shaved

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

the lack of suck at SS/C

is especially lovely.

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

And CF...

Strong up the middle.

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by Cody_ransom on Dec 15, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

It looks fine, except that

You have to consider that any one given lineup will not play together more than 10 or 15 times, and that, guaranteed, on any given day, at least one or two of those players will not be in the lineup, but will instead have a replacement level scrub filling his spot.

by GiantPain on Dec 16, 2011 6:10 AM PST up reply actions  

A bench of

Fontenot, Nate and either Huff or Belt is probably above " replacement level scrub"

They’d still be weak at backup C unless they’re serious about Panda strapping on the tools of ignorance

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by Goofus on Dec 16, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Burriss will get plenty of PT. You'll see AAA callups filter up and down as the backups get hurt too.

You can’t just look at a lineup of average hitters and say it’s going to be average. The guys who will replace them are worse than them – if they weren’t worse, they’d be starting (with the exception of Fontenot, SS.).

Sure, the Giants bench looks like it’d be OK. But terrible players will get lots of ABs this year.

by GiantPain on Dec 16, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Go look at the 25th man on every team

Dbacks’ backup IFs are Bloomquist and MacDonald. That’s about the same as Fontenot and Burris.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

You can just look at a lineup of average hitters and say it's going to be average.

You see, the same qualification that you applied to the Giants’ lineup applies to every other lineup in baseball.

by dregarx on Dec 16, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

You’ll have Burriss and Pill and like it.

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by El Person on Dec 16, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Yerp.

Those appear to be two of the primary go-to guys heading into the season.

by GiantPain on Dec 16, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

OT: FUCK.

1:30 PM – Arizona flight booked for 3/2.
1:45 PM – Tickets for Rockies vs Giants and Brewers vs Giants Spring training tickets purchased.

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by djfivenine on Dec 15, 2011 2:37 PM PST reply actions  

Pwnd by life.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 15, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

That sucks.

ST is so fun.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s one of just a few things I miss about living in Phoenix.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 15, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

What’s it like? KLaw seems to think it’s the bees knees.

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by Deleuzian on Dec 15, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s like a wondrous baseball dream wrapped in absolutely amazing spring time Arizona weather. The baseball itself smells fresh and hopeful with young minor league talents trying to make a name for themselves as the established stars sign autographs and coordinate tee-times.

The ballparks themselves are throwbacks, smaller, closer to the action. Most facilities have a grassy knoll GA outfield area which is perfect for families trying to entertain the wee ones or college students skipping class and studying beer, baseball and the co-eds soaking up the sunshine.

Most all of the games are during the daytime hours, though there are a few nightcaps – so if you are strictly on a baseball journey, it’s not hard to see four teams play two games in one day.

Everyone should make the trek to the Cactus League at least once. See some games, enjoy a cold beverage, walk around afterwards and visit the restaurants and bars.

It’s different seeing your team play their prospects in games where the score is about the least important thing on the agenda. It’s all about having good swings, making good pitches, and fundamentals.

And it’s the only reasonable time to find yourself in the metropolitan Phoenix area, IMHO.

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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 15, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless you’re a serial killer. Then Phoenix is alright, all the time!

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

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Arizona: Come on vacation, leave on probation.

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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 16, 2011 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

My favorite thing used to be golf in the morning and catch a game in the afternoon. Scottsdale Stadium is one of the best ballparks too although it is easier to get better seats at a lesser field (such as Maryvale).
/is getting sad

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 6:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Sorry to hear. At least you get to travel.

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Russia in March…. mmmmmm yummy

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea...

I need to buy a jacket huh?

by djfivenine on Dec 15, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

or vodka.

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A jacket with plenty of pockets for vodka

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I bet I know what somebody is getting for the holidays….
gloves √
mittens to go over gloves √
earmuffs √
hat to go over earmuffs √
winter coat with fur lined hood to go over the hat that is over the earmuffs √
$100 gift card to Bevбольше √

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Bevbol’she?

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

according to the internets that’s how you write “more”

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

See,

there are some things to get excited over. Everyone loves mittens. Or is that kittens?

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by Giant_in_la_area on Dec 15, 2011 3:28 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I think there is some wide differences of opinion on the Giants ability to score runs in 2012

Quick poll:

Considering only the players that are currently on the Giants roster, how many runs do you think they will score in 2012:

My guess: 598

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2011 2:38 PM PST reply actions  

568

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

645

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by jhiat00 on Dec 15, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

about this

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I wanted to be optimistic so I picked the number of runs at the #20 spot from last year (Oakland).

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by jhiat00 on Dec 15, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I picked it as about the halfway point between 2010 and 2011.

League average in scoring was way down in 2011 as compared to 2010 (668 v. 701)

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

sounds good

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll be optimistic

620

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

That is still conservative, considering how meteoricly unlucky and injury prone the year was.

With current lineup, everyone playing 130+ games, 650.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Dec 15, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Bookmark that bad boy

Point and laugh in 10 months

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Dec 15, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I love that optimism is what would have been 25th in baseball last year

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by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Sabean’s hoping like hell for 648.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

107

But realistically, I say 642.

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by Giant_in_la_area on Dec 15, 2011 2:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Ha! I’m in on the 642 as well.

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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 15, 2011 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Power in numbers!

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by Giant_in_la_area on Dec 15, 2011 3:11 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

ha! -109! (run differential wise anyways)

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Stupid typing. I hit 7 instead of 9.

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by Giant_in_la_area on Dec 15, 2011 3:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

They scored 570 runs last year.. It can't possible be worse than that

I think we’ll rise from 29th in baseball all the way up to 26th!

So like 617 runs

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by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

The return of Buster alone would account for

20-30 runs.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

And that’s only defensively!

Matt Cain is better than you, but apparently not cool enough for Showtime.

by homegrowntalent on Dec 15, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

642

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 15, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

4

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

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by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Quite the opposite, actually.

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by mhad on Dec 15, 2011 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

700

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by mhad on Dec 15, 2011 6:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Mark it, Dude.

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by mhad on Dec 15, 2011 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

In this line

OPTIMISMMMMMMMM

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Dec 15, 2011 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

By brain says 650

My heart says 675

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by Goofus on Dec 16, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd take a shot with Beckham but I certainly wouldnt give all that up

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by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 2:41 PM PST reply actions  

Does this strike anybody else as ummmmm…. a bit odd?
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/edu/2754805492.html


The Special Program Leader oversees one crew. Special Program Leaders are required to wear boots. If hired, the Special Program Leader must provide their own boots prior to the first day of work. Hiking boots are acceptable.

is this code for something?

we now return you to your regularly scheduled rosterbation….

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 2:43 PM PST reply actions  

I’m not sure why, but this reminds me of this

I feel like I want to rage. Right now.

by fjm on Dec 15, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like UPS… they used to send you home if you didn’t wear proper footwear.

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 15, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Beckham

He had a terrible year but I still think he projects as an above average player. I even think he can probably play SS.

Maybe that offer is too high relative to what he did last year. But it’s quite bit lower than what he would have been worth in 2009.

by hammystyle on Dec 15, 2011 2:44 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

El Person, are Finals over?

by Turf_Toe_ on Dec 15, 2011 2:49 PM PST reply actions  

YOU ARE NOT EL PERSON

He’s totally putting you on his list now.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Dec 15, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

people to kill

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. Last one was today.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re a free man

by Turf_Toe_ on Dec 15, 2011 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

One semester left of high school.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Where ya gonna go to college?

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

No idea as of yet.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck that. Become a plumber or something. Well unless you won’t have to make student loan payments.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 6:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Fortunately, money isn’t really that much of an issue.

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by El Person on Dec 16, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice! Be sure to do something you are passionate about. Uh, map maker?

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t that what PiKA did and couldn’t find a job with?

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by El Person on Dec 16, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Pretty much. GIS stuff IIRC. That is probably not the only industry that allows one to make maps though.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Or professional blogger. I hear that’s a cushy gig.

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by EliminateMe on Dec 16, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

USBN

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 15, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

adding a 2b

makes no sense and gordon beckham is god awful…i think we might be onto something lets get him now for 3 prospects!!!.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/gordon-beckham-is-broken/

Bekham had an IFFB rate of 21%..this is worst in the MLB for all qualified batters and Hensly Muellens doesn’t have the cure.

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 2:52 PM PST reply actions  

As a Dbacks fan

I speak frome experience when I say that White Sox make great trade partners. We stole both Chris Young and Daniel Hudson away from them

Have you been good this year? I hope so, because Gibby. Is. Watching.

by imstillhungry95 on Dec 15, 2011 2:56 PM PST reply actions  

You know that Brian Sabean runs this team, right?

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll admit

you guys know way more about Sabean than I do, but I don’t think even he could mess up a trade with the white sox

Have you been good this year? I hope so, because Gibby. Is. Watching.

by imstillhungry95 on Dec 15, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

/messes up trade with the White Sox

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by jhiat00 on Dec 15, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

o ye of little faith

by Aaron Can on Dec 15, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

He gave away Keith Foulke and Bob Howry for half-seasons of Wilson Alvarez, Danny Darwin and Roberto Hernandez.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

The Giants had Keith Foulke? Why don’t I remember this?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I went to one of his starts!

I don’t remember it, of course.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I do remember a game I attended at Candlestick in 1999, but I can’t remember anything to identify it by. Shame. Maybe my dad will remember enough for me to look it up.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

The Giants drafted him. Only pitched about 50 IP as an SF Giant.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I am getting old.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

.

Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 15, 2011 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

He WHAT 4 pitches?

Ohhhh… commingles. Riiiight.

At first glance, it looks like… Er, I thought…

I have a dirty mind.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 15, 2011 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

This

I’m guilty as well.

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 15, 2011 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

rec’d

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 15, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I really hated

that 1997 post-season and the stupid 2-3 format.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Personal favorite aside from 2010

Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 15, 2011 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve always wanted a Barry Bonds hug.

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I'M A GIRL

by Prussian Creole on Dec 15, 2011 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Totally agree

Most Giant fans around then would say it was worth it, even if the long run Win Shares don’t add up right. Postseason, baby!

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by achiappanza on Dec 16, 2011 12:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Roberto Hernandez threw 100 mph

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 15, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I loved him and though Dusty deferred to Beck too much

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by Goofus on Dec 16, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Wanna bet?

Don't believe everything you think.

by wcovington on Dec 16, 2011 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I am very upset at how competently your franchise is run now

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by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Beckham: Love the hair, love the player.

Giants Baseball: Hope like hell
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by ResDog on Dec 15, 2011 2:59 PM PST reply actions  

I'd take a flyer on Gordan Beckham

Not sure where he’s supposed to play, though.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

Striker

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

too easy

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

They may be 3 of out top 10 prospects

But they’re really not great prospects. One potentially dominant reliever, one potential back of the rotation starter, and one potential below average-ish SS. I wouldn’t be too sad if we gave that up for an established player who is a clear upgrade.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

Beckham's A Bust

Just don’t think the Giants have a deep enough farm system to make anything happen trade wise right now. Ramirez would be awesome though, a prime candidate.

While we’re dreaming of dealing with the ChiSox though, what if they could swing Quentin in the same deal… Now that would be a lineup:

Pagan CF
Ramirez SS
Sandoval 3B
Posey C
Quentin LF
Cabrera RF
1B Huff (Belt part of trade)
Sanchez 2B

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by trecole696 on Dec 15, 2011 3:01 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

You would trade Belt for Ramirez?

Because who needs a high-OBP moderate power-hitting first basemen that plays great defense and runs well?

Seriously, I’m surprised that nobody’s considering Belt as a #2 hitter. He gets on base and he runs well. He’d make a great link from Pagan’s speed to Pablo and Posey’s power. Pray that we get something of Melky’s 2011 or Huff’s 2010 and they make a passable 5 hitter. If both show up (doubtful) then great, if not, the other can platoon with/get replaced by Schierholtz. If neither show up, there’s a problem, cause a 7/8/9 of Sanchez/Crawford/Pitcher sounds like a depressing 3rd inning.

Pagan CF
Belt 1B
Sandoval 3B
Posey C
Cabrera/Huff LF/RF
Huff/Cabrera/Schierholtz LF/RF
Crawford SS
Sanchez 2B

Against lefties you wouldn’t want Huff and Schierholtz in together, so they probably end up sharing the most time. Expect Huff to start a lot of games and Schierholtz to finish them. It may be LaRussean, but Sanchez hits 8th to set up bunting opportunities for pitchers. Could turn a fair amount of leadoff singles into 1 out doubles, especially if you figure Crawford to end a lot of innings.

Rosterbation. That felt good.

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by mhad on Dec 15, 2011 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Belt is left-handed

He can’t hit #2.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair, he's talking about getting Carlos Quentin back as well as Ramirez.

Many people around these parts consider Belt a legit #2 hitter. The chances Bochy actually puts him there in the lineup, however? Goose egg.

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by the guy on Dec 15, 2011 8:09 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

yup

Just trying to gruntle my Giants baseball Jones in the least destructive way available.

2010 was just a dream.can I have another please?

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2011 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

uhhhh
San Francisco Giants @SFGiantsFans 1m

We found some hackers that can get into Bochy’s phone, stay tuned… twitter.com/SFGiantsFans/s… #SFGiants

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2011 3:05 PM PST reply actions  

We have found a way to get Romo into the game.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sure this will be hilarious!!!

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

A-yup.
@SFGiantsFans
We were able to get one of the pics Huff texted Bochy to show his offseason workout results: http://ow.ly/80XNk #SFGiants

by Every6thDay on Dec 15, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

huh
VIDEO: John Kruk Endorses A Bat Called The Baden Axe While Sitting In A Chair

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:11 PM PST reply actions  

That’s weird, I just came across a John Kruk bobble head at the 2nd hand store today.

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Mmmm

biscotti and iced coffee

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 3:13 PM PST reply actions  

Let’s pause and reflect that there are some here among us who decried the selection of Buster Posey in the 2008 draft. Some of you preferred Beckham. I know who you are. There will be a day of reckoning for you and your ill-formed opinions.

The correct pick was Smoak. Wait…

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by marcello on Dec 15, 2011 3:13 PM PST reply actions  

Brian Matusz

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

but for a catcher

Kyle Skipworth

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember going over Skipworth vs. Posey in my mind pre-draft. “Well, Skipworth’s got the offensive upside …”

by Dan from NM on Dec 15, 2011 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Smoak was my preference

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve heard that about you.

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 15, 2011 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

ALL YOU FOOLS REPENT FOR YOUR SINS

and watch this video again

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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by jctGamer on Dec 15, 2011 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

it says password protected

I has twitters https://twitter.com/#!/APR_studios

by Romosexual42 on Dec 15, 2011 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

passwords: jctgamer

I think

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Dec 15, 2011 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Defending the Posey pick in-thread

is still probably the height of my brilliance on this site. Let’s ignore that’s like my Brady Anderson ’96 season

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Dec 15, 2011 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

My defense of Burrell's aquisition is mine

My not-so-shining-moment was calling Fred Lewis a poor man’s Eric Davis

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by Goofus on Dec 16, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I think he was a poor man's Eric Davis

But I only remember Eric Davis’s time with the Giants.

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by El Person on Dec 16, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Pitching is what wins games!

Here’s the Top 5 in Runs Scored in Baseball last year

1. Red Sox
2. Yankees
3. Rangers
4. Tigers
5. Cardinals

4 out of those 5 teams went to the playoffs. 3 out of 5 went to their respective LCS. And both WS teams came from that list.

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by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 3:13 PM PST reply actions  

Teams with the best run differential tend to win the most games.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

My point is that this whole pitching is everything bullshit being fed to us by the BRASZ is nonsense

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by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think that's what they said.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

This is correct

They said they were going to hope like hell for some offense.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL this

1. Spend ass tons of money on pitching including the bullpen

2. HOPE the offense is better

3. ?

4. Profit

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by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

1. Spend ass tons of money on pitching including the bullpen

2. HOPE the offense is better

3. ?

4. Profit

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Correct.

They said pitching is “their gold standard.”

by Every6thDay on Dec 15, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

And they said they tell the pitchers that they are responsible for wins.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Those top 4

Clownball all-stars

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Much like everything else they feed us. Remember when Buster Posey couldn’t catch in the majors for fear that he would accidentally call for a sploogeball?

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

HAHA!!

The 6-fingered sploogeball!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve heard about that but I don’t watch those type of videos

by Turf_Toe_ on Dec 15, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

He honed his pitcher whispering in that month and a half in AAA

Duh

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by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

This is one of my favorite comments ever on this site
Yay!

Posey didn’t throw to 5th base!

by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 2, 2009 7:29 PM PDT

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL Red Sox.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Therefore

Teams that score more runs win.

by Turf_Toe_ on Dec 15, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay

TB led AL in Run allowed/G in the AL, Yankees was 3rd, Texas was 5th

Philies led the NL in R allowed/G and ATL (who collapsed in the few weeks because of a lack of pitching) was 3rd.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I just learned that Old Hoss Radbourn once had a 19.8 WAR season.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:20 PM PST reply actions  

He was pretty good.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

It was a different time.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

It was the Best of Times…

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by nvsfg on Dec 15, 2011 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

He was basically the only pitcher on his team, and he threw every day, all nine innings. Insane.

Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Dec 15, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Trivia: Name the three pitchers with the highest single season WARs since (including) 2000.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:22 PM PST reply actions  

Hmm

Pedro, Clemens, Halladay?

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by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

?

Pedro
Halladay
Randy

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by marcello on Dec 15, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

In order

Pedro
Randy
Halladay

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by marcello on Dec 15, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's a guess

Martinez
Clemens
Johnson

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Extra points for the correct order.

Hint: Justin Verlander’s 2011, good for 8.8 WAR, is 4th.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry

8.6

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Grienke was better than that in 09’ (9.3).

by boonitez on Dec 15, 2011 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

People have guessed 2 out of the 3.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok

Pedro
Randy
Santana?

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by marcello on Dec 15, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Your #1 is correct.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll give you Johnson too, but he comes in 3rd.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

So not Clemens?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

overflowing with entendres

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Dec 15, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Your #1 is correct.

I’ll give you Johnson too, but he comes in 3rd.

Talk about throwing to 5th base!

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 15, 2011 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Pedro
Sabathia
Johnson

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by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Pedro
Prior?
Randy

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by marcello on Dec 15, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Pedro
Greinke
Johnson

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Dec 15, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Winner. Greinke’s 2009 was good for 9.0 rWAR

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

wtf

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess we should be asking

FG WAR

or

BR WAR

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by marcello on Dec 15, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

You're right

Should have clarified.

BR WAR

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

ALthought that list is weird

I can only find Johnson and Verlander both having 8.5 WAR

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Dec 15, 2011 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

This list is probably easier

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh and Top 5 in fewest runs allowed last season

1. Phillies
2. Giants
3. Braves
4. Padres
5. Dodgers

Only one of these teams made the playoffs. And they lost in the LDS. Granted they had the best record in baseball.

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Braves should have made the playoffs but collapsed due to pitching issues

TB, Yankees and Rangers are in the top 5 in runs allowed for the AL.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Remember that one year when the SF Giants won the World Series?

They were 1st in the NL in runs allowed, 9th in runs scored.

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by D4P on Dec 15, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

2010.

Phillies, Giants and Braves led the NL in Rs allowed/G

Texas was 2nd in Runs allowed/G, Yankees were 4th, Rays were 5th.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Oops

the Padres led the NL in Rs allowed/G but that lends more support to the proposition.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Oops,

Giants were 2nd in runs allowed in the NL. I was looking at ERA, where they were 1st.

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by D4P on Dec 15, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Obviously its all about run differential

The point im making is that having an awesome pitching staff doesn’t guarantee the playoffs

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by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course

neither does having an incredible offense, i.e. Red Sox.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

The way the Giants are built

they just need to get in the playoffs

I think with a league average offense, the Giants have a good chance of winning the division or getting a wild card spot.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

But their offense is nowhere near average.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

in 2010?

Yeah but without Buster and Mole for 2/3 of a season, Nate for a month, Panda for a month, Pat for most of the season and awful production from Huff and Torres.

The return of Buster and Mole should account for 30-50 runs alone. They scored 570 last year…30-50 puts them at 600-620…league average was 668 last year. Assuming 2 oWAR production from 1B and CF…that’s another 30 runs…650.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

If everyone just plays to their ZiPS projections, shouldn't they at least be average?

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by Goofus on Dec 16, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

They were a lot closer than the Giants

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Dec 15, 2011 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd rather the Giants be on this list.

much easier to win

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL NL West.

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by Giant_in_la_area on Dec 15, 2011 3:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

One more trivia?

The three active pitchers with the highest career rWAR.

This might surprise you.

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Rivera would be one, I would think

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2011 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Halladay would be another I think

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Dec 15, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re both right.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Oswalt?

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Dec 15, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Hudson

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Active meaning pitched during the 2011 season.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Hint:

Barry Zito is 11th.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

HUDSON!
Halladay
Wakefield

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Dec 15, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

id be surprised if wakefield is in there

by Aaron Can on Dec 15, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Tied for 51st active

Including position players, 30 WAR

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Dec 15, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I just looked it up

Not bad, Wakefield was a shot in the dark, since he has played forever, granted at about replacement level.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Dec 15, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Hudson was the third. Good call.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

The hint of Zito

Made me think of big 3, so I went for it

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Dec 15, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

meaning its halladay, rivera, hudson?

by Aaron Can on Dec 15, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Correct

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Last one.

I will be very impressed by anyone who can get this.

What 3 players have the three highest single season stolen base totals?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:47 PM PST reply actions  

all time?

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Dec 15, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. Single-season record, though.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Rickey
Raines
Brock?

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Rickey of course.

1 of 3. Fair warning: I’m not as much if a baseball historian as I would like, but I have never heard of the other two. This is a very difficult one.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Slidin’ Billy Hamilton!

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Really

Unfamiliar with Lou Brock? Wow.

Just looked it up…no way I would have ever guessed those. Lou Brock is 4th, at age 35, which is ridiculous.

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

No

I know Lou Brock. I’m unfamiliar with the other two correct responses.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

ok

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

There is like a 0.1 % chance of anyone getting it

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

Brock is 4th with 118 at the age of 35. Wow.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Rickey Henderson
Billy Hamilton

I’ll have to think about the last one.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Hamilton is sixth, although he did it twice.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

hugh nicol

but if we are talking from the last 100 years..its henderson, brock , coleman

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

We are talking All-Time

And you just got #1.

  1. is still yet to be named.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Stupid SB Nation

Number 3.

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nicol, henderson, latham

but nicol and latham did it in the same year….

an interesting fact…juan piere is the current active SB leader.

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m guessing you looked that up?

Or you just really know your 19th century baseball.

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I actaully just have a Delorean and I went back in time

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

cinicinatti reds have a minor leaguer named Billy Hamilton who stole 103 bases in 2011 in the minors and of course the already “sliding billiy hamilton” is notorious for his SB’s…pretty cool that there are two “billy hamilton’s” who have awesom speed.

note: if your last name hamilton and you want to be a SB leader..name your son Billy.

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

It would be so cool to be called “The Freshest Man on Earth”.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Vince Coleman?

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

9th, 10th and 13th

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Has anyone guessed Maury Wills?

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Dec 15, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

He didn’t stick around long enough, did he?

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought he said single season.

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by Ott on Dec 15, 2011 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I did. Wills is not one of the answers. Mr. Westfall suspiciously answered correctly.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah sorry i actually did look up #3

i felt like it was taking too long and if i didn’t look it up some one else would have.

but for what it is worth i did know that henderson, brock, and coleman were the players from the live-ball era.the last century.

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by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know why I thought he said career.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Hugh Nicol
Rickey Henderson
Lou Brock
BENGIE MOLINA

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by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Back to the posting question
The posting fee will be paid only if an agreement is reached with Darvish’s agents, Arn Tellem and Don Nomura. If the contract is not agreed upon between the player and the highest posting team, the money is returned.

I think the thing that would prevent a team to make a fake bid is that they would actually have to pony up the money during the negotiation process.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 4:01 PM PST reply actions  

WTF

Why did I just get a text message from Boomers telling me about their Blood Drive?

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2011 4:08 PM PST reply actions  

Question of the day: Should Joe Start be in the Hall of Fame?

During his career, seasons were much shorter than they are now. Here’s how his rWAR totals would look when adjusted for 162-game seasons:

Year	Age	Tm	Lg	G	WAR	oWAR	dWAR	Pos
1871	28	NYU	NA	 162	 3.9	 5.4	-1.5	*3
1872	29	NYU	NA	 162	 0.9	 0.6	 0.3	*3
1873	30	NYU	NA	 156	 1.8	 0.0	 1.8	*3/9
1874	31	NYU	NA	 157	 5.7	 5.5	 0.2	*3/78
1875	32	NYU	NA	 157	 3.0	 2.3	 0.7	*3
1876	33	NYU	NL	 159	 0.9	 1.1	-0.3	*3
1877	34	HAR	NL	 162	 7.0	 7.0	 0.0	*3
1878	35	CHC	NL	 162	 6.6	 7.2	-0.5	*3
1879	36	PRO	NL	 126	 6.1	 5.3	 0.8	*3/9
1880	37	PRO	NL	 153	 4.3	 3.5	 0.7	*3
1881	38	PRO	NL	 151	 4.8	 4.8	 0.0	*3
1882	39	PRO	NL	 158	 8.5	 6.2	 2.3	*3
1883	40	PRO	NL	 144	 3.6	 3.3	 0.3	*3
1884	41	PRO	NL	 132	 5.3	 4.3	 1.0	*3
1885	42	PRO	NL	 147	 3.4	 3.2	 0.1	*3
1886	43	WHS	NL	  40	-0.6	-0.5	-0.1	3
16 Seasons			2328	65.0	59.2	 5.9	
						
		PRO (7 yrs)	1011	35.9	30.6	 5.3	
		NYU (5 yrs)	 795	15.3	13.8	 1.5	
		WHS (1 yr)	  40	-0.6	-0.5	-0.1	
		CHC (1 yr)	 162	 6.6	 7.2	-0.6	
		NYU (1 yr)	 159	 0.9	 1.1	-0.3	
		HAR (1 yr)	 162	 7.0	 7.0	 0.0

Note also that he didn’t start playing in the major leagues until he was 28, because there were no major leagues before then.

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Shouldn't you be doing better things with your time?

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know what would be more useful than extrapolating 19th-century WAR out to a modern schedule.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Never heard of him

Doesn’t sound very famous to me.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

The dude was the Jim Rice of his era.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

He was a 3rd Start at best

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by Goofus on Dec 16, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I feel like the offensive foils of the Niners and Giants..

Are punishments for the Montana/Young and Bonds years…

This got me thinking about it..

The 49ers are the worst team in the NFL when it comes to scoring touchdowns from inside the opponents’ 20-yard line. The 49ers have gotten into the red zone 45 times. They’ve scored just 16 touchdowns — for a lowly 35.6 percentage. The league average is 52 percent.

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I can accept that this is what I get for getting to see Barry Bonds hit, but the first 49ers quarterback I remember is Jeff Garcia. This is no fair.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, It was beautiful

If the Niners won a close game, the freakouts were epic.

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Before my time.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

you didn't miss much

just a load of fail

Alex Hinshaw, WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE

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Yeah, those 80’s teams were terrible.

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You could have been watching Aaron Rodgers

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I wanted him at the time, of course, although not because I knew Rodgers was better or anything.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

He probably would've been permanently scarred by Erickson/Nolan/Singletary

And I would be bummed if local fans started bagging on a Cal product.

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by Murray, Present on Dec 15, 2011 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Jeff Garcia was good. Obviously paled in comparison. But still he put up some pretty big numbers. Heck, he holds the 49ers single season record for passing yards.

by BestHyperboleEver on Dec 15, 2011 10:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, he definitely wasn’t bad. He just wasn’t Montana or Young.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 10:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't access it

but there is a theory that red zone efficiency is a myth. I don’t know anything about Sabrmetrics for football but the Niners inability to score TDs from the 5 yard line is very annoying.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story?id=7170232&slug=red-zone-efficiency-meaningless-predictor-future-performance-nfl&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fstory%3fid%3d7170232%26_slug_%3dred-zone-efficiency-meaningless-predictor-future-performance-nfl

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

You know who could solve that?

Peyton Manning

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by Kestrel76 on Dec 15, 2011 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I have no idea where to find it, but I would be interested to see the stats on points scored per red zone possession.

by BestHyperboleEver on Dec 15, 2011 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't feel bad for you.

The Chiefs have scored like two TD’s in the last 5 games. One of those was a last second hail mary at the end of the half.

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 6:40 AM PST up reply actions  

According to my performance review at work

My co-workers think I have a large rack, can read and write, and is very easy.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Dec 15, 2011 4:22 PM PST reply actions  

WELL...

at least they appreciate your intellect.

Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.

by James Westfall on Dec 15, 2011 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

At least there is honesty there.

There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.

by Giant_in_la_area on Dec 15, 2011 4:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

One more dawn

One more day

One day more!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Dec 15, 2011 4:38 PM PST reply actions  

I had “Macavity” stuck in my head all day.

by Hyoton on Dec 15, 2011 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Macavity's not there!

Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting. I'm Twittering now (well maybe not literally now): @GoofusMcP

by Goofus on Dec 16, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I like to hump the McC cavity.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Another day another destiny

Winter break?

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Dec 15, 2011 10:42 PM PST up reply actions  

jponry

Did you watch Top Chef last night? OMG, that woman was horrible.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

i don't watch it actually

should I?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Dec 15, 2011 10:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Not as good as NIC.

But it has its moments. This season the eliminated chefs have their own secret faceoffs going on behind the scenes. Whoever wins that will get back in the main competition. It’s kind of cool.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d love Ramirez, but budget-conscious team would have to start with someone from the big league roster who is actually making money to include in the trade talks. That means… um… well there’s… um… Affeldt? Or maybe Lopez. Except neither of those make any sense for the White Sox. The only other option would be Freddy Sanchez… Yeah, we’re not getting Ramirez unless we include Brown, Joseph, Hembree and two more prospects of the White Sox choice…

"When the Giants call up a 21-year-old Venezuelan catcher who started the year in San Jose, was hitting well with poor plate discipline, but wasn't on Baseball America's preseason list of the organization's 30 best prospects, only good things can happen."
Congratulations, Hector!

by tedfordfan on Dec 15, 2011 4:39 PM PST reply actions  

Wilson!

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Poz rules. That was great

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by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

That was good, unusually thoughtful. I’d never thought much about Posnanski one way or the other, but reading a few of his posts in the archives….very good.

by Stoned Slacker on Dec 15, 2011 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s the best sportswriter in the country.

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Great read

Joe Posnanski’s writing is deceptively simple—he doesn’t show off with big vocabulary words or obscure pop culture references, and his style is so conversational and personal it almost feels like something one of us could write.

Except for the fact that in a million years, none of us could write as well as Posnanski does ALL THE FREAKING TIME.

"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein

by Kitspool on Dec 16, 2011 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s the man.

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

One thing I do tire of

And I am, of course, loathe to criticize Pos, who I do love reading, is that it seems like every one of his pieces has that part where he says “Yes, it’s just like X. But it’s also like Y.”, when X and Y are opposite.

Like, he’s great, but:

I suspect that none of those reasons is exactly wrong … and none of them are exactly right, either.

That’s pretty weak.

Still, miles and miles ahead of just about every other sportswriter out there.

by GiantPain on Dec 16, 2011 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Fair point

He equivocates a lot. But I find that to be a stylistic tic, is all.

"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein

by Kitspool on Dec 16, 2011 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

He seems to do it to sort of bridge the gap between statland and the non-stat people by attempting to emphasize the unknowable qualities of baseball, etc, etc.

But it often just comes off as sorta extraneous. At least to me. I’m likely in an extreme minority.

by GiantPain on Dec 16, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

You? Considering the unknowable qualities of baseball extraneaous? NO!?

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Neyer equivocates more than just about anyone I’ve read.

I honestly find myself wondering why anyone thinks he’s all that good. I imagine finding Neyer in 2007 was the equivalent of only being able to hear Vin Scully after his prime.

Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.

by speckops on Dec 16, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yo-Anus!

Cespedes and his agent, Adam Katz of Wasserman Media Group, are starting negotiations at “Chapman money,” one general manager tells Passan, in reference to Aroldis Chapman’s six-year, $30.25MM contract with the Reds.

6/60 could be a freakin bargain…

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/12/the-latest-on-yoenis-cespedes.html?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=twitterfeed

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .

Job 1:14-15

by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 6:52 PM PST reply actions  

Still waiting for Yuliesky Gourriel

le sigh

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Dec 15, 2011 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s some game down there in Atlanta

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by son of ggf on Dec 15, 2011 7:25 PM PST reply actions  

This GChat beep on the Republican debate is driving me crazy

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by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 7:44 PM PST reply actions  

Yay Boo
Sharks

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 7:48 PM PST reply actions  

HOW DO WE KILL A PENALTY

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

sharks key to the game

“Are the stars out tonight?”

by Hyoton on Dec 15, 2011 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

that was pretty bad
I’m used to Jon and K’nK singing… but not Drew.

btw…anybody know off hand where one could find ’twas the night before Kalikimaka ?

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't believe

they just gave up a goal in the last 12 seconds of the period.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

The PK is horrid

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t believe somebody used up the rest of the whipped cream! I was saving it for my raspberries!

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

That's evil.

How’s the hubby’s horror flu?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for asking, it’s getting better. We’ve actually been able to sleep through the night for 2 nights in a row now!!!

He “had” to go to bowling tonight, he’s missed more Thursdays than he’s been able to attend and the team gets penalized. Bowling league should really be every other week! We’ll see if he has another relapse. I’ve blamed the whole thing on the bowling alley place, it’s filthy!

Best lanes in the area… just don’t use any other area. Especially and including the bathrooms!

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

Glad he’s on the mend.

Sharks score!!!

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Country Club Lanes?

Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

What was that cool alley that used to be on Fair Oaks? You know the one.

Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah that one went out of business and Fireside bought their lanes.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

No… umm fireside lanes?

Off of, what is that there? Auburn? just south of the Kmart…

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that the one within walking distance of ARC?

I took bowling there to fulfill my community college PE credits. That and Jazz Dance (which was not held at the bowling alley, thank god), which I thought of as ‘spandex class.’

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 15, 2011 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

On Madison, yeah.

Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

no that’s a different one.
Mardi Gras?
We belong to the gym that’s right there, so I know the one you mean, never been inside that bowling alley before though.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 10:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, Mardi Gras. That's it.

I raised my average from 90 to 130 in a semester there.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 15, 2011 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

OT: NBA

After the Portland Trail Blazers chose to use their amnesty clause to clear the contract of All-Star Brandon Roy from the salary cap Thursday, his agent wanted something made clear: Roy is retiring forever from the NBA.
Doctors have told Roy that his degenerative knees make it impossible for him to continue playing in the NBA. He has no more cartilage in his knees, and the continued grind of playing in the league could ultimately jeopardize his ability to walk.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_brandon_roy_trail_blazers_121511

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

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Job 1:14-15

by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 7:51 PM PST reply actions  

That sucks. I got to watch him against Sacramento…dood had skillz!

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .

Job 1:14-15

by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

That's rough considering he's 2 years older than me.

I respect his choice, and ultimately, he gets to say he was a great player in the NBA, and he gets to be able to move around on his own and chase after his kids. Best to leave with dignity.

And I don’t even watch or care about basketball.

by Cap M on Dec 15, 2011 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Shame

He was truly great.

Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh come on Thornton

Finish that

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 7:57 PM PST reply actions  

LoL my ears
He said “stretch pass”
I heard “stretch pants”

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 8:03 PM PST reply actions  

Nice pointless penalty

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 8:12 PM PST reply actions  

My life is boring.

Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"

by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 8:15 PM PST reply actions  

I sure that’s not true. Most people’s live are about the same.

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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 8:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Doesn’t make my life any less boring.

Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"

by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

This is true

I live a pretty boring existence right now, though I’m fixing to change it up.

There are some difficult choices ahead.

I will say, it was really weird the first couple of months of not having anything special to do on the weekends anymore.

by Cap M on Dec 15, 2011 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

How so

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

None of my friends are home from college.

I’m playing Wii fitness for shots with two guys right now.

Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"

by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2011 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Be careful what you wish for….

Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Be thankful.

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

May you live in interesting times

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2011 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

#FirstWorldProblems

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 6:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Rockies is the frontrunner for Cuddyer

Mlbtraderumor

The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 8:22 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Shift-A

sup?

The San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
I'M A GIRL

by Prussian Creole on Dec 15, 2011 8:31 PM PST reply actions  

Grant is grasping at straws.

The Sharks suck.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Pffft Sharks don’t suck, they haven’t enough energy to suck!

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

So same as it always was?

The San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
I'M A GIRL

by Prussian Creole on Dec 15, 2011 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty much.

The Giants FO have no idea what they’re doing.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

sup

Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

chillin’

The San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
I'M A GIRL

by Prussian Creole on Dec 15, 2011 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Aw bummer Surkamp was just on KNBR?

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 8:34 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah, but you had to hear Eric Byrnseseseses voice so it really wasn’t all that

The San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
I'M A GIRL

by Prussian Creole on Dec 15, 2011 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

true
I rarely ever listen to KNBR
I hear about 30 minutes of the morning show while I’m driving to the park (where I take my walks)

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Yay Goal!!!

Moar plz!

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 8:34 PM PST reply actions  

OH FOR FUCK’S SAKE SHARKS!!!!!!!!!
STOP THAT!!!
STOP IT NOW!!

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 8:37 PM PST reply actions  

Where are their heads?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe the Red Queen got to them.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 8:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Power Play, Sharks!

You’re supposed to have an advantage.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 8:42 PM PST reply actions  

Candy Cane Joe Joes

OMG

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 8:47 PM PST reply actions  

They had some eggnog almonds that were just yummy. We’re not allowed to have those anymore.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate hockey fights.
Well, except for Staubitz and Tootoo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTpl_SuXygw

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 8:48 PM PST reply actions  

Namibia.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2011 8:49 PM PST reply actions  

oh hell, I left my tea in the microwave, I bet it’s cold again now. I’ll go heat it up again, get distracted again… ugh vicious circle.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 8:53 PM PST reply actions  

Tea sounds like a good idea

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Dec 15, 2011 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

What I could find of the Celestial Seasonings Candy Cane Lane… some p00head bought out the entire shipment of it at whole Foods, the only store that seems to even have the CS Holiday teas this year.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmmmm Target has it…says the website…
guess I’m going to Target tomorrow……early……in the morning…….

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I found Nutcracker Sweet (another one of the Celestial Seasonings holiday teas) at Save Mart. They had it in a special display, rather than in the tea aisle. It took me forever to find it, but they did have it.

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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 7:15 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah, our savemart here was out. All they had was bigelow’s eggnog tea.
Somebody is going around buying up all the candy cane lane. At whole foods they have all the CS teas on this little display shelf, they have boxes and boxes (like 40-50 each) of the other teas…no CCL. Even the CS website says they are out of it. TJ’s version isn’t horrible, but it’s not quite the same.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 16, 2011 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

That reminds me, I want to try an eggnog latte this year.

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 8:29 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s crazy. I have been mainlining Nutcracker Sweet and the TJ’s cinnamon vanilla holiday tea, but there is plenty of that around.

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

The Nutcracker one is tasty, but with us having colds the minty ones are nice for uh…ahem… clearing out the sinuses.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 16, 2011 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I do this all the time

The San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
I'M A GIRL

by Prussian Creole on Dec 15, 2011 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Baggs:
Although Giants officials remain in favor of a rule change that would protect catchers from being targeted in home-plate collisions, the matter didn’t come up officially at the winter meetings last week in Dallas. It didn’t get past Joe Torre, Major League Baseball’s vice president for on-field operations.

Torre heard out Giants manager Bruce Bochy in several phone calls over the summer but declined to recommend that the rules committee take up the matter.

Bochy isn’t giving up. He spoke informally with several managers at the winter meetings in an attempt to build consensus; he said at least four or five agreed that a change was warranted. Tony La Russa, who retired after leading the St. Louis Cardinals to the World Series, was among those on board, Bochy said.

Giants vice president Bobby Evans started his own grass-roots campaign with officials from other clubs at the General Manager’s meetings in Milwaukee in November, Bochy said.

Link

Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 15, 2011 9:01 PM PST reply actions  

I’m sorry, but I really hate Joe Torre when I hear stuff like this. I’m sick of “but that’s the way its always been!” arguments.

The San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
I'M A GIRL

by Prussian Creole on Dec 15, 2011 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

But, I mean, I’m not actually sorry.

The San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
I'M A GIRL

by Prussian Creole on Dec 15, 2011 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Would any of you think of this if it didn’t happen to Posey? What if it happened to Joe Mauer or, hell, Russell Martin?

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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 16, 2011 2:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not directing this just to PC but to everyone. Some of you wouldn’t care if it didn’t happen to Posey.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 16, 2011 3:09 AM PST up reply actions  

One last thing

I’m not saying PC doesn’t care but I think there are a few who wouldn’t be as upset if it happened to another catcher.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 16, 2011 3:23 AM PST up reply actions  

For me? Probably not. Although what is wrong with changing your mind after seeing your catcher go down?

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 6:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Does it matter?

Many opinions/convictions aren’t strongly considered or held until they hit close to home. That doesn’t make them any less valid.

by BestHyperboleEver on Dec 16, 2011 8:15 AM PST up reply actions  

…or Mike Metheny.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 16, 2011 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s really been feeling the bankruptcy I guess.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 16, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve seen enough brutal collisions in my lifetime to say that, yes, maybe there should be a rule chance.

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Dec 16, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve never liked it. It hasn’t been allowed in any league that I’ve ever played in, and I’ve never understood why it would be allowed in the major leagues.

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Dec 16, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

My experience is different – I’ve been run over at the plate on a several occasions. One time, it was a Samoan dude much larger than me. Took an inning or so to get the cobwebs out of my head, and the run scored because I dropped the ball, but the respect from my teammates was nice afterward. I don’t have a point, just reminiscing.

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Is there anyone who enjoys watching home-plate collisions? If the answer is yes, then those people are watching the wrong sport.

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s a lot of “I’m a football fan first” people who do, yes. Remember how little outrage there was? And how many people said felt it was fundamentally integral to the game?

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by Prussian Creole on Dec 15, 2011 9:18 PM PST up reply actions  

If you want to watch guys beat the crap out of each other

there’s always hockey or football or rugby or boxing or water polo. Can’t baseball be a non-contact sport?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

What I’m saying is that those people are bad people. When I want to see that, I watch football.

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I like plays at the plate.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

.

I was looking for a .gif of that awesome Johjima play at the plate, but found this instead:
So whatever I like plays at the plate.

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-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

McCarthy funnies
Amanda McCarthy @Mrs_McCarthy32 40m

it’s an awkward moment when you realize that someone on facebook defriended you.. someone that you were friendly with- yikes

Brandon McCarthy Brandon McCarthy @BMcCarthy32

@Mrs_McCarthy32 sorry, but dinner was terrible and I needed to send a message.

by Daver321 on Dec 15, 2011 9:04 PM PST reply actions  

I do love them. They’re what I imagine the perfect relationship to be, at least based on their twitters personas.

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by Prussian Creole on Dec 15, 2011 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

BURNT MEATLOAF BURN

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 6:45 AM PST up reply actions  

OH FER FUCKS SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think there’s a coach might lose his job…

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 9:06 PM PST reply actions  

Should be the special teams coach

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

The Sharks are not very good at hockey right now.

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Dec 15, 2011 9:06 PM PST reply actions  

omfg...rip Christopher Hitchens

that dude was such a boss

Everything is RACIST.

by Anonymous1337 on Dec 15, 2011 9:07 PM PST reply actions  

OMG

I knew he was sick, but omg.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

RIP

very sharp individual, regardless of his blood alcohol content

Mr. Hitchens, I salute you.

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh dear, the Mr. was a big fan of his. He will be very sad.
Hitchens was very sick though wasn’t he?

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Cancer of the esophogus.

He wrote some great pieces about being sick.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t always agree with him, but I loved his writing.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 9:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Some of the debates he had were crazy good and badass

Everything is RACIST.

by Anonymous1337 on Dec 15, 2011 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

My mother is at that same hospital at this very moment.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

The staff was meant to transfer her out of the hospital proper today, but were none to zippy in their attempts. I wonder if this was a factor?

That Steve Jobs person stole my uncle’s oncologist….

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-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

damn celebrities.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

hard not to feel a little picked upon

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

stupid 1%ers!
It does make you wonder sometimes.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s grounds for a class action here, says I. Gather the evidence from ten-thousand rooms, meals, doctor’s appointments, and whatever else lost to celebrity’s prima nocta.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

John Q. Public v. Celebrity.

Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

reminds me of a Kevin Bacon anecdote. He dressed himself as a ‘normal’ person and went out into the public. Did it for a day or two, then dropped the practice. Why? “Because people were mean to me.”

And fair enough. If ya got it, use it.

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-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

God, the Sharks suck.

They are not helping to get my mind off the Giants.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 9:08 PM PST reply actions  

Pretty slim pickings

on TV tonight

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 9:09 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

You always have On-Demand and Netflix.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I have neither

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 9:11 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Isn't Parks & Rec on Thursdays?

I always watch it OnDemand, so Im not sure.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah but it was a rerun

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by Prussian Creole on Dec 15, 2011 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

FUCK!

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 6:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Chopped reruns it is

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 9:13 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I think I will just read the comments/updates here

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 9:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

HBO GO app for your phone

if you are an hbo subscriber

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s a pretty sweet app

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I love HBO GO

I’m catching up on all the older shows I missed.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish my phone was faster

No flash for me..I’m Skyfire dependent.

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Really good app. It’s amazing on iPad.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish my phone was faster

No flash for me..I’m Skyfire dependent.

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

It is truly a gift from the Gods.

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 6:46 AM PST up reply actions  

What’s going on in the awards nomination thread?

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

you can catch up on TV shows online.

plenty of places available.

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

Daughter is using the laptop watching Curious George.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 9:16 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I will do that when the kiddo goes to bed

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 9:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Adam Berry / MLB.com:
Belt said his greatest adjustment came between his ears. Playing out of position in the outfield admittedly affected him. He said he put too much pressure on himself last season, feeling a need to prove he belonged in the Majors and deserved consistent playing time.

That’s how he’s always been, he said, but that pressure changed his mental approach at the plate. And it showed.

“I just didn’t have the approach to hit the ball consistently up there. Every time I got a breaking pitch in the big leagues, I was swinging way too early on it,” Belt said. “I couldn’t really figure out why. I think it was all mental — just a lack of confidence and maybe trying to get a bit pull-conscious and trying to hit the ball too hard, stuff like that.”

That all changed when he got to the Dominican. He let the game come to him, as he always had. He waited for breaking balls to get deeper in the zone. And perhaps most importantly, he forgot about everything that went wrong in San Francisco the few months prior. Then, he said, “everything else just fell into place.”

Now back from the Dominican Republic, Belt is enjoying the offseason and preparing for his second Major League season. He’s been home to Texas. He celebrated his first wedding anniversary by making his first trip to New York City with his wife, Haylee, who supported him through the highs and lows of the year, usually packing the suitcases he had to live out of.

Link

Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 15, 2011 9:11 PM PST reply actions  

blahblahblah

I just want to watch him play baseball.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

One of Belt's qualities

is his willingness to learn.

Cannot wait for him to show his true talent.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 9:15 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

He had an .800 OPS in 87 PA's at first base last season

Because we all know Huff needed to play first base, right?

Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 15, 2011 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

well Huff was terrible in the OF

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 15, 2011 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh my, where would the Giants have been without his bat in the lineup?

Also, he was fine in left field:
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=18086369

Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 15, 2011 10:51 PM PST up reply actions  

FTFY
well Huff was terrible in the OF

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Dec 16, 2011 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

No, Brandon. You were fine. Just keep doing what you were doing.

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C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugh
Belt said his greatest adjustment came between his ears. Playing out of position in the outfield admittedly affected him. He said he put too much pressure on himself last season, feeling a need to prove he belonged in the Majors and deserved consistent playing time.

You know what would have solved this? Putting him at first base, leaving him there, and letting him know he was the starting 1b. even if he went 0-4.

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by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, well, that is NOT the Giants way…at least not with rookies.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Well done, Brandon.
"I just didn’t have the approach to hit the ball consistently up there. Every time I got a breaking pitch in the big leagues, I was swinging way too early on it," Belt said. "I couldn’t really figure out why. I think it was all mental — just a lack of confidence and maybe trying to get a bit pull-conscious and trying to hit the ball too hard, stuff like that."

He recognized his shortcomings and used his time in the DR wisely. Good sign for the future.

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

He should be preparing to return to Fresno.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 15, 2011 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually like your block quote blasts, but a subject line could perhaps ameliorate the consternation of others.

Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Well he's being a good soldier.

I’m sure he knows how he has to approach this whole situation. Mashing inferior pitching probably helped with the confidence too.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 6:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Heh

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 9:16 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

That’s probably as close as Superman will ever get to saying “Bitch, go make me a sandwich”

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by Prussian Creole on Dec 15, 2011 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

To quote The Rock

“Know your role and shut your mouth!”

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Lots of hockey coaches getting the axe this season. Three already? Seems like a lot.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 9:17 PM PST reply actions  

the Sharks needs to do something

this is shit

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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by jctGamer on Dec 15, 2011 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

The special teams coach needs to get fired.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it is four.

LA Kings
Ducks
Capitals
Hurricanes

by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 15, 2011 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

MLB Network video: The life of Ryan Roberts(TatMan)

MLB Network takes an in-depth look into the life of Ryan Roberts and discovers who he is off the field.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=20031057&topic_id=7417714&c_id=mlb&tcid=vpp_copy_20031057&v=3

Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 15, 2011 9:25 PM PST reply actions  

SFG Live video: Giants Clubhouse Show

12/14/11: San Francisco Giants Live Clubhouse Show(1:50:13)

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=20031167&topic_id=&c_id=sf&tcid=vpp_copy_20031167&v=3

Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 15, 2011 9:29 PM PST reply actions  

GOAL

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 9:36 PM PST reply actions  

Rah.
Ugh.
So bowling was a bad idea, he’s coughing his stupid head off again…

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 9:38 PM PST reply actions  

PAAAAVS!

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 9:40 PM PST reply actions  

Yay, little Joe!

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 9:41 PM PST reply actions  

Oh way to take a penalty p00-head

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 9:41 PM PST reply actions  

whew!

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 9:44 PM PST reply actions  

I was trying to think of a snarky comment to make

I got nothing

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by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Those ARE six players from the Giants lineup next season.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 15, 2011 10:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Panda's lost some weight

and grew lady parts.

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Him and Posey were traded because the Giants brazz didn’t want the shitty players to feel bad about themselves.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
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by SFGuy on Dec 15, 2011 10:25 PM PST up reply actions  

It would make Giants games more watchable.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2011 11:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Brandon's got a posse...

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 16, 2011 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Is that Kieschnick on the right?

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by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL

He looks relaxed.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

WELL GOOD FOR HIM

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

From this picture it’s hard to tell; either that or he was barefoot.

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C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

it was Hawaii.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Her dress must have dragged sooooooo much sand with it.

by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 15, 2011 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

eek, the bridesmaids dresses are pretty bright, but beautiful pic.

by City Girl on Dec 16, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

What hell is up with the cleavage shot?

Crawford’s got the perfect rock star look.

Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 15, 2011 11:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't see any cleavage

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s in the photographer’s link above. Craword looks like Liev Schreiber’s little brother.

by City Girl on Dec 16, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

HOLY CRAP!!!!!!

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 9:46 PM PST reply actions  

Somebody lit a match under their asses!

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

LOLorado

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Dec 15, 2011 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Great redirect

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

what the hell just happened?

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Aves had the most dangerous lead in hockey.
Hopefully we can hold the lead.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, what she said.

Maybe coach said “If you don’t get your fucking asses in gear it’s windsprints for every practice, every day, forever!!”

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

REALLY?
“Some of these kids don’t have basic hygiene skills,” attorney Karl Rominger, who recently joined Sandusky’s defense team, told Harrisburg’s abc27 News Tuesday. “Teaching a person to shower at the age of 12 or 14 sounds strange to some people, but people who work with troubled youth will tell you there are a lot of juvenile delinquents and people who are dependent who have to be taught basic life skills, like how to put soap on their body.”

Where the hell does he keep finding these attorneys? I’m almost convinced their incompetence is a strategy to draw attention from him.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Dec 15, 2011 9:51 PM PST reply actions  

really? wow.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

And only a man can show them the way.

Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

holy fuck

With those kind of comments, seems like Sandusky’s lawyers are trying to get him locked up.

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

well they have certainly set themselves up for malpractice

but I doubt that was their intent

Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Ineffective assistance of counsel maybe

on appeal.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

The illusion of competence

I’m thinking he just hired bad lawyers, of which there are many.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Plus with the evidence against him not that many lawyers were lining up to take his case (since he doesn’t have OJ money I guess)

by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 15, 2011 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

A few to get their names in the papers perhaps.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Corner that pedophile market.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like they just can't shut him up.

I mean, he got away with it for so many years, maybe he really doesn’t know how anti-social he is.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Rule number one of a defense attorney:

Know when and how to shut your client up. And, you know, don’t throw him in front of Bob Costas on a national broadcast without coaching or moderation.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I can only assume

Sandusky is insistent on talking, regardless of his lawyer’s recommendations.

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be further evidence in support of the 'bad lawyer' theory

But from what I’ve heard, the lawyer has orchestrated a lot of this…. The Bob Costas thing in particular. And don’t forget the 1-800 number bit.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:11 PM PST up reply actions  

You would surprised. Fame is an attractive chip

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 10:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Gotta to prove prejudice. Not sure Sandusky can do that.

Also, slimy attorneys usually have slimy clients

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 10:02 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

While I do not know the fundamentals of proper legal defense

“Young boys need me to teach them proper shower techniques in a one-on-one environment” is probably an incorrect angle.

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 10:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Going for the ineffective counsel defense on appeal?

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 10:00 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I just got a pedophile case on my desk.

Dude represented himself. You really have to be delusional to be a pedophile.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:11 PM PST up reply actions  

ya know

this reminds me. There’s a guy I know who was prosecuted in Santa Cruz county for sex with a minor. Is it possible that you administered his paper work?

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:13 PM PST up reply actions  

What a small world!!!

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 10:14 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Nah, he didn’t appeal.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

…doesn’t sound very appealing to me…

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I've never heard that one!

;-)

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by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  

He never actually had sex with the girl in question, if that makes things sound a little less creepy. Got slammed for some of those other, also hideous sounding peripheral charges.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:17 PM PST up reply actions  

nope

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

That's good.

Some guys appeal only that condition. Most of our judges don’t try to impose it if it was consensual.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Good.

Even having the criminal record has been an incredible burden (forgiving the man nothing for his awful choices).

The girl in question proved herself to be quite…. unreliable when presented with the barest of legal scrutiny. So, that saved him.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Not only do they have to be delusional, they also have to be monsters. I read an article saying there are over 16,700 sites dedicated to child pornography. That is absolutely shocking. It’s hard to believe that there is such a large number of abhorrent websites.

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by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I was talking to the judge today.

He was reading to him from a psych eval from his first conviction in 1973. To try to get his priors striken.

It was a pedophile case with less than one day of voir dire.

Please, people, if you get charged with a crime, get a lawyer.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Proviso

A good one.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Heh. I’ve heard some stories from my parents about Italian lawyers. Both of my parents were lawyers at Freshfields.

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by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s an interesting selection. Does ‘evil and corrupt’ necessarily mean bad? Or do we mean simple ineptitude? I have a few visions of both.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Because those evil and corrupt types can be quite effective lawyers.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  

All of the above. It’s been years since they worked in Italy so I haven’t heard those stories in a while. My wife, my son and I are flying over to France / Italy to visit family tomorrow so I will have a chance to ask them.

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by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

My mother is French-Italian. Grandfather from Paris, Grandmother from Milan. She grew up in France.

My Dad’s side: Grandmother is from Manchester WW2 romance story. Dad is bay area. 4 Generations of Cal Alumni lol.

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by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 10:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Go Cal!

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

These types would be more qualified to be politicians.

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by SFGuy on Dec 15, 2011 10:38 PM PST up reply actions  

And many are or will become so!

It blew my mind that most politicians in China have a background in engineering.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I would imagine that it was the safest career choice back in the days of the Cultural Revolution.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Strategic engineering degree in place of following the law? There must be more to it than that.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably the aspiring politicians who studied less obviously practical things were killed, being intellectuals.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s a guy who likes to think of himself as a freedom fighter. Takes a lot of pro bono cases and civil rights stuff. And he’s a terrible lawyer.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  

All those

and usually stoned.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

He's a nice guy, tho.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:30 PM PST up reply actions  

IMHO, sloth is the most unforgivable lawyerly sin.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Lawyering requires lots of different skills. The good ones go with their strengths and hire others to help them with whatever they suck at. Or work at a firm that puts them to the right tasks.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:38 PM PST up reply actions  

At least his heart is in the right place.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 6:52 AM PST up reply actions  

True

But his clients deserve a better lawyer.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 16, 2011 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

“Welp, I’m willing to help and do it for free. The flipside is that I’m a shitty lawyer so you make the call!”

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

You get what you pay for.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 16, 2011 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Free’s a bargain at twice the price.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 16, 2011 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

It seems like many of them were victims themselves at one point.

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 15, 2011 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s like they think it’s normal.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

….? Wow

Potential for so many inappropriate responses.

Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.

by Giant among Angels on Dec 15, 2011 10:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I would love to take a running start and kick the two lawyers and Sandusky in the balls really hard.

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by SFGuy on Dec 15, 2011 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

This is annoying.

I want him to get his day in court and with a competent attorney. That way if he is convicted there are no questions about his guilt.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 6:50 AM PST up reply actions  

This is from The Onion, right? Right?!

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 16, 2011 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

OT

Just found out Berklee College of Music asked my son to audition for a spot.

My first thought: THAT’S RIGHT NEXT TO FENWAY!!!

My second thought: wish it was Red Sox scouts.

Didn’t even consider the $50,000 cost per year til later.

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by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 9:59 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

What does he play?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Drums.

But my hopes re: his 6’ 2" lefty frame and 92mph fastball getting noticed first, are dashed.

Lol, he throws harder than Zito.

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by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 10:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Wow

You must be proud.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Couldn’t be more proud. Super good kid, dealt with a lot of bullshit; learning disability, addict Mother, cross-country transplant, being in Maine when TGWTWS…

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by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 10:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Dad of the Year.

Congrats!

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Aww, thanks.

But yeah…it was all me :)

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by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 10:13 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Good for you guys.

Best of luck to him!

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 6:53 AM PST up reply actions  

There are local leagues on that side of the country who will let a hard throwin’ lefty get some run.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:08 PM PST up reply actions  

He had a session with his H.S. coach a couple weeks ago; 30 pitches, clocked at 92, 0 strikes! He just has no idea where it’s going.

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by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 10:11 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Nice! Just got to get him in there. Teams will take a flier on a hard throwing lefty. And if the boy has your build, they’ll be all over it.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

but you knew that

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Tall and lanky, not like me. His little brother is my clone, but David is built like his Mom’s brother…like a tall Timmy.

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by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 10:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

We’re more like tall Pandas.

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by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 10:23 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Perhaps he could get a scholarship and major in drums or music?

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 6:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Jason Neighborgall managed to spend three years in the pros without ever really throwing a strike, so there’s that. I wish I could hit 90. As it is I can throw 70 just fine.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I top out in the mid-70’s. Still pitching though, and getting better the closer I get to 40.

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by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 11:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Is this where we tell drummer jokes? Seriously, that’s fantastic. Great school, he’ll be surrounded by great faculty and students.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 16, 2011 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

wow, congrats!

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

third thought: oh yeah, proud of my son and all that stuff

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Dec 15, 2011 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

High expectations parent!

Why are you not extraordinarily gifted at baseball AND music?!

by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 15, 2011 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

He is, but it’s harder to be noticed playing baseball these days if you aren’t part of the showcases.

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by bigboneded on Dec 15, 2011 10:05 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

send videos to college coaches

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 15, 2011 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

In AZ the competition is really stiff so it is common for guys to start out at a community college and try to get noticed from there.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 6:54 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah, I’d jump on that, cost be damned

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Congrats!

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by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

They’ll teach him to play a million notes per second. LOL JOE SATRIANI

Seriously, though, congrats to your son!

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by Kitspool on Dec 16, 2011 8:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Good luck to your son!

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Dec 16, 2011 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Yup.

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by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep

There’s like 12 guys out with concussion syndrome right now.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn. It seems like it is happening to everyone at the same time.

by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 15, 2011 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Two Michaleks out at the same time. WHAT ARE THE ODDS

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by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

How many are there in the NHL? It can’t be THAT many.

by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 15, 2011 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

2 and they are brothers.

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by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 10:08 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL I should have known that.

by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 15, 2011 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Sharks win!

Well, waddaya know!?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:03 PM PST reply actions  

Pics or it didn’t happen

by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 15, 2011 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Why is there nitrate in every brand of cold cuts?

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 10:04 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

America!

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Where a man can buy a car for $500 and then insure it for $1,000!

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 15, 2011 10:08 PM PST up reply actions  

America!

where citizens can sue fast food restaurants cause they made the conscious choice to eat 5 burgers a day.

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

No cats either

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 10:13 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Out!

damn cats.

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 10:25 PM PST up reply actions  

whole foods has no crap in it, it’s expensive and you have to eat it like real fast.. but it does exist.

I think the Oscar Mayer Carving Board line of lunch meats is all natural. I have to watch for those and soy.

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I normally don't care

But the Ham is for my daughter.

Found a Hormel Nature turkey breast..on sale too.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 10:26 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

LOL Cooch!

Couldn’t get the puck over the glass for the kids.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:05 PM PST reply actions  

is there really a guy named cooch?

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 15, 2011 11:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Logan Couture
aka Teeth
aka Cooch

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Couture. But Cooch is his chosen nickname.

But he doesn’t like “Juicy” as in Juicy Couture because it is a “girl’s fashion line”

by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 15, 2011 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, it’s a good thing he chose a nickname that’s slang for lady parts then.

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2011 7:55 AM PST up reply actions  

“Sweater Puppies” was way too long.

by Hyoton on Dec 16, 2011 8:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Wrong parts.

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2011 8:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I know, but I was too embarassed to say the other ones I was thinking of.

by Hyoton on Dec 16, 2011 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Does he like "Juicy Cooch"?

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by Goofus on Dec 17, 2011 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Who doesn’t?

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Who were the 3 stars? I missed it due to Coughy the 8th dwarf.

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 10:17 PM PST reply actions  

Cooch was the last one.

Clowe and some dude from the Avs were the other two.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Stanstny.

He had 2 goals and was all over the ice.

by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 15, 2011 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude is a beast.

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by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Off to watch Flyers-Rangers 24/7 now.

Hopefully their epic hate will be entertaining.

by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 15, 2011 10:22 PM PST reply actions  

Only time we are ever going to see the Sharks on 24/7

And it is the Worcester Sharks losing to the Ranger’s AHL team on a goal by none other than Sean Avery.

by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 15, 2011 10:51 PM PST up reply actions  

OT - Pathetic

ESPN is on for background noise. They are showing highlights of a Miami Heat scrimmage game.

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by SFGuy on Dec 15, 2011 10:28 PM PST reply actions  

Sad

ESPN used to be great pre-Disney.

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 10:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Yah watch some of those old Sportscenter

They’re great.

There’s still talent there it’s just buried underneath all the crap

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by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

So THAT's why it's become unwatchable.

I never connected the dots.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:42 PM PST up reply actions  

The on-screen talent has improved in recent years

Unfortunately, ESPN is constructed like cable news now.

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep

Viacom and Disney destroyed two formerly great networks.

I used to watch MTV and ESPN so much. Now I only watch ESPN for the actual sporting events and the occasional PTI. And I never watch MTV

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by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 10:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I do like VH1

Some really good teen documentaries

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 11:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Beavis and Butthead is back.

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by SFGuy on Dec 15, 2011 11:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I watched a few eps.

not bad.

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 11:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss the music videos

Although music is in a down period.

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

For some reason we’re getting a channel 8 now, and that channel shows ’80s music videos all the time. My parents like it very much.

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 11:33 PM PST up reply actions  

80's music was horrible in the most awesome way possible

teased hair! synthesizers! men with far too much makeup on!

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 11:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Pq0xYr3L4

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by SFGuy on Dec 15, 2011 11:49 PM PST up reply actions  

They look was weird in retrospect, but a lot of the music hold up really well

My white whale is for the Talking Heads to reunite, but it’s probably never going to happen

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by Goofus on Dec 17, 2011 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Music's still really good

It’s just really segmented.

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by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 11:36 PM PST up reply actions  

It's been a while

since all forms of music were above average or better all at the same time.

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s how you know you are getting old…
“Today’s music sucks!!”

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by Merope on Dec 16, 2011 8:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I work hard maintaining my lawn

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by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the only thing I listen to that could even remotely be considered “new” is some Green Day and some System of a Down. Otherwise… gimme some Queen, some capercaillie, or some obscure 80’s band that was on the old 415 records label.

Even my workout music is mostly older (late 1990’s early 2000’s) techno stuff.
LoLd

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by Merope on Dec 16, 2011 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Tim Tebow plays for the Miami Heat now?

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by El Person on Dec 15, 2011 10:35 PM PST up reply actions  

No

But the LeBron clause kicks in

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 10:39 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

merely a precursor

to our annual rite of spring: East Coast Baseball blowing.

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 10:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the #1 highlight in top plays was from that game.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 6:56 AM PST up reply actions  

OMG

This is hilarious!

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 10:33 PM PST reply actions  

I like those old Madden scenes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_138p6uzhUk

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by SFGuy on Dec 15, 2011 10:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Trade pieces

Byrnes pressed Runzler tonight on KNBR. I suggested he ask him if he can control the wicked 2 seam running sinker that so far he hasn’t been able to, and whether he wants to be a starter or not. He said his control has improved. Rags and Tidrow almost have his head in the right place to transform the Laloosh side of him- he “just wants to do what’s best for the organization.”

If Runzler can get to Dereck Holland type stuff- 95 with some consistency he could be a decent 2 or 3. My feeling is it will come down to trading Runzler if they can sign Cain long term. Otherwise maybe they like Runzler to take over in the rotation if they can’t resign Cain this year.

by muzak on Dec 15, 2011 10:35 PM PST reply actions  

The Sea was angry that day my friends

like an old man trying to return soup at a deli!

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by DFARowand on Dec 15, 2011 10:37 PM PST reply actions  

..that a titleist?

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Dec 15, 2011 11:22 PM PST up reply actions  

If anybody wants to try something new and different… go to Costco and look for
http://www.mrsmays.com/product_details_mrsmays.html?GoCate=11&indx=48

I can’t decide if I like them or not.

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 10:51 PM PST reply actions  

If anybody wants to try something new and different

/makes sign of the cross, spoils ballot

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by waelwulf on Dec 15, 2011 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

freeze dried strawberries…like astronaut food or something…. it’s weird.

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh. Are you supposed to rehydrate them for use or something?

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by waelwulf on Dec 15, 2011 10:57 PM PST up reply actions  

nope, they dunked them in chocolate. Crunchy strawberries is just different.

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Crunchy frog

Milton: We use only the finest baby frogs, dew picked and flown from Iraq, cleansed in finest quality spring water, lightly killed, and then sealed in a succulent Swiss quintuple smooth treble cream milk chocolate envelope and lovingly frosted with glucose.
Praline: That’s as maybe, it’s still a frog.
Milton: What else?
Praline: Well don’t you even take the bones out?
Milton: If we took the bones out it wouldn’t be crunchy would it?

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by Lunkus on Dec 16, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

it's a Les Miserables kinda night

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2011 10:51 PM PST reply actions  

Do you hear the people sing

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 10:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Singing the songs of angry men.

by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 15, 2011 10:52 PM PST up reply actions  

IT WAS MY RIGHT TO DIE AS WELL

INSTEAD I LIVE…

BUT LIVE IN HELL!!!

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2011 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

And so it has been and so it is written
On the doorway to paradise
That those who falter and those who fall
Must pay the price!

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 15, 2011 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

LORD LET ME FIND HIM

THAT I MAY SEE HIM
SAFE BEHIND BAAAAAAARS
I WILL NEVER REST
TIL THEN

THIS I SWEAR
THIS I SWEAR BY

THE STAAAAARS

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2011 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh my, there was a “football” game tonight. 41-14 ? sheeeesh!

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 10:56 PM PST reply actions  

I had the game on

I fell asleep.

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by SFGuy on Dec 15, 2011 10:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Calling it a “game” is a stretch.

by muzak on Dec 15, 2011 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Aaaand

I have Roddy White and Matt Ryan. Word.

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by Giant Voodoo on Dec 15, 2011 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Matt Ryan

went to Boston College

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2011 11:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Doug Flutie too right?

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by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

My graduation picture is in front of the Doug Flutie statue outside of the stadium.

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2011 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

and the brothers Hasselbeck

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 11:08 PM PST up reply actions  

no one cares about them though

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2011 11:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Glenn Foley?

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

AKA Matty Ice

obviously named for the inexpensive beer

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

rather a reference to shitty beer

than that stupid “icing” fad that every douchebag seems to be into.

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by Giant Voodoo on Dec 15, 2011 11:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Icing?

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

youtube it

it might cause you to drink because of how stupid it is.

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by Giant Voodoo on Dec 15, 2011 11:10 PM PST up reply actions  

just looked it up

pretty bad

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

its really really

really stupid. I love drinking games, but smirnoff ice? really?

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by Giant Voodoo on Dec 15, 2011 11:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice!

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by Giant Voodoo on Dec 15, 2011 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

He held the door to Lyons Hall open for me once, ftr.

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2011 11:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Good!

chivalry is dead.

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by Giant Voodoo on Dec 15, 2011 11:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Let’s just hope they can beat Drew Brees and Jimmy Graham.

by muzak on Dec 15, 2011 11:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Just finished watching the highlights of the Sharks game

The defense was quite atrocious

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 11:05 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Seems to be par for the course lately

by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 15, 2011 11:06 PM PST up reply actions  

but they won
for a change

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 11:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Burns saved a goal. 4 of the 6 defensemen had 0 hits going into the 3rd period.

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by calgiants86 on Dec 15, 2011 11:07 PM PST up reply actions  

It seems like they have no concept of team defense.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 11:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I miss Dougie Murray

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

this

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 15, 2011 11:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Question: Worst offseason so far?

of the Bay Area teams that is.

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by Giant Voodoo on Dec 15, 2011 11:06 PM PST reply actions  

it’s not over yet.

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by Merope on Dec 15, 2011 11:06 PM PST up reply actions  

hence the "so far"

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by Giant Voodoo on Dec 15, 2011 11:08 PM PST up reply actions  

ever

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 11:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Oakland A's

still not very good

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by slapsy on Dec 15, 2011 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

also

Don’t ask me. I think the Giants has had an okay offseason. Signing Beltran would make it an excellent one.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 15, 2011 11:11 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Overall, it’s been meh.

Trading away Torres was hard to take. Getting Angel Pagan in return was okay.

Things could have gotten bad if they signed someone like Yuniesky Betancourt. Although, Burriss…

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 15, 2011 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Warriors have had the most lulzworthy offseason

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Dec 16, 2011 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Poor Cubbies

I actually was rooting for them to get Pujols. Only because it would still take them a decade to put a team around him but at least the fans could cheer for awhile. Now it looks like Prince is considering it. But some have speculated the Nats will get a bit heavier with more of Boras’ weight and he will effectively take over that team with Werth and Fielder saddled up to the slushy bar.

by muzak on Dec 15, 2011 11:15 PM PST reply actions  

The way Cubs fans treated Bartman, fuck them.

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by SFGuy on Dec 15, 2011 11:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I like that the Cubs can’t win the World Series. Were it to happen it would make me sad.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 6:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Dontrelle Willis
Jimmy Rollins and Willis both attended Encinal High in Alameda, are longtime friends and often trade barbs about who is better. But they’ve never been teammates, until now. Well, maybe. “He was probably more excited about the deal than I was,” Willis said of Rollins. Willis officially became a member of the Phillies on Thursday, when he passed his physical. Philadelphia signed him to a one-year, $850,000 contract (incentives could push his salary above $1 million). Willis hopes to play with Rollins, a free agent. Rollins remains unsigned, though indications are he and the Phillies eventually will reach an accord.

Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 16, 2011 12:02 AM PST reply actions  

Troy E. Renck The Denver Post:
The Rockies have extended themselves as far as they will go — believed to be three years and $27 million — in an attempt to land their first big-ticket free agent since 2000. Cuddyer was weighing interest from Philadelphia and Seattle, but Colorado is considered the strong favorite.

The Rockies have interest in outfielder Carlos Beltran​, but only on a smaller commitment. Given Beltran’s knee issues, last year notwithstanding, the Rockies would be looking to land him on a one-year deal with an option. His suitors include the Cardinals and Blue Jays.

Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 16, 2011 12:10 AM PST reply actions  

MLB.com’s Thomas Harding:
Cody Ross remains a possibility to be signed to work in a tandem in left field with Seth Smith. If Cuddyer is signed, expect the Rockies to attempt to trade Smith to fill other holes.

Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 16, 2011 12:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Ugh. Don’t take Cody! I don’t want to have to start hating him yet.

by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 16, 2011 12:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I doubt Beltran would go for a one year deal.

by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 16, 2011 12:15 AM PST up reply actions  

The most likely destination for Beltran appears to be St. Louis, as they have the available cash and the fans seem eager for the Cardinals to sign him. Although, they have been rumored to be interested in Carlos Pena. It’s odd that that there hasn’t been any rumors with regards to Pena for a week or so. Both could make sense for them as Lance Berkman can play both right field and first base.

Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 16, 2011 12:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Dreamy?
Let’s go now RT @rodneycatonjr: @VizquelOmar13 Omar, if you got an offer to play one more year for the Giants, what would your answer be?

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by Natto on Dec 16, 2011 12:29 AM PST reply actions  

He’s 44 and turns 45 in April. He also only played 9 games at SS last season.

But if Sabean was willing to pay top dollar for Willie Bloomquist….

Andres Torres was a track and field star at Miami Dade, running the 100 meters in 10.37 seconds, the second fastest recorded 100 meter time for all major league baseball players, behind Deion Sanders' 10.26

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 16, 2011 12:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d sign him. Just because he’s Omar Vizquel.

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"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"

by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 16, 2011 1:15 AM PST up reply actions  

But he’s old enough to be your father.

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by SFGuy on Dec 16, 2011 1:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Id sign my father too. Then I’d be rich.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 16, 2011 1:20 AM PST up reply actions  

No. He would be rich. You would still be poor unless he gives you some money.

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by SFGuy on Dec 16, 2011 1:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Or unless you are in his will / he doesn’t have a will and you knock him off and are never caught.

by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 16, 2011 1:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I would imagine a person with money would have a will.

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by SFGuy on Dec 16, 2011 1:58 AM PST up reply actions  

For the most part, yes. But you would be woefully surprised at the number of rich people who die young before they have “gotten around” to making a will.

by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 16, 2011 2:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Of course these are the kind of exception cases that wind up in my Wills & Estates textbook.

by WhatsAMataHari on Dec 16, 2011 2:20 AM PST up reply actions  

See, now, I was more like OMG Dreamy has a twitter-ma-dealie!!!!
/followed !!

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by Merope on Dec 16, 2011 8:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Always Sunny outdid itself tonight

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by DFARowand on Dec 16, 2011 1:34 AM PST reply actions  

New one tonight

I can never keep track

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by SFGuy on Dec 16, 2011 1:57 AM PST up reply actions  

The Blue Jays win!!! The Blue Jays win!!!

The Yu Darvish sweepstakes with a bid somewhere between $40 and 50 million.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 5:54 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

though

I am not sure Yu will sign with them.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 5:54 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

40-50 million?

The Blue Jays? The Giants should be ashamed of themselves for this offseason. I don’t care about Darvish, but to not reward their loyal fans who sold out their damn stadium for the entire season with a decent bat signing is disgusting. Seven million per year for Willingham is too high for them? And what kind of stupidity is shown when you’re that broke and you pick up a five million dollar option for Jeremy Affeldt, when you’ve already re-signed Javier Lopez? For TWO MILLION MORE you get a decent bat for the middle of the order. I’ve wanted Beltran all along, but would have shut my mouth over Carlos, Willingham or Cuddyer. It’s absolutely pathetic what the Giants have done this offseason. And fuck you MLB trade rumors for sending me “breaking news” that starts off with “Giants sign” and ends up with Eli Whiteside and Guillermo Mota! You get my hopes up then I have to read that shit?

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by rxmeister on Dec 16, 2011 6:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Well…the 40 to 50 million is just to negotiate. They still have to sign the guy.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 6:11 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

also

Free French fries at Burger King’s today.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 6:20 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

We've been raging about this shit for weeks!

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 6:22 AM PST up reply actions  

If only I could find my rage button

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 6:32 AM PST up reply actions  

They could probably calm me down by saying that the reason they haven’t done anything is because Brandon Belt will be getting 500 at bats and they feel he’s going to put up better numbers than all of those free agents, but at this point all I’m thinking is that all those at bats will go to Huff.

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by rxmeister on Dec 16, 2011 6:53 AM PST up reply actions  

It’ll work itself out in spring training.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 6:58 AM PST up reply actions  

YES!

Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.

by Giant among Angels on Dec 16, 2011 7:26 AM PST up reply actions  

We won’t know that until ST. Belt sounds like he learned some things in winter ball and should be good.

Huff sounds like he’s taking this off season seriously. Hopefully he can find at least half of his 2010 self.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 7:00 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I hope Toronto does get Yu.

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by jponry on Dec 16, 2011 6:25 AM PST reply actions  

You think he will sign though?

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 6:26 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I hope so

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by jponry on Dec 16, 2011 6:30 AM PST up reply actions  

The Toronto Yu Jays!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2011 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, Canada! I stand on guard for Yu.

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2011 7:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Toronto gets Yu, we potentially get Yu…..niesky

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by rotorueter on Dec 16, 2011 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Yu never know!

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 7:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t know STEVE HOLM! played for the Twins last year

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by jponry on Dec 16, 2011 6:30 AM PST reply actions  

I remember him starting the season with them but that’s about it. Er maybe that was 2010?

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 6:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I remember that

Dude fell off a cliff though

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Dec 16, 2011 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

This Frost/Nixon movie is great

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 7:11 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Giants re-signed C Eli Whiteside to a minor league contract.

The Giants non-tendered Whiteside earlier this week but wound up bringing him back at a lesser salary than he would have made through arbitration. The 32-year-old batted just .197/.264/.310 over 236 plate appearances this past season, but the Giants value his defense. He’s the favorite to back up Buster Posey in 2012.

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by rotorueter on Dec 16, 2011 7:12 AM PST reply actions  

good deal

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 7:13 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

They value his defense? I was under the impression he was pretty terrible defensively, especially his arm.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 7:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I think they just like him as a dude and how he “works with the pitchers.” I think it’s because they over-emphasize on game calling, scouting, etc.

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by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 7:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the comfort level with pitchers is a plus. But hey it’s a minor league contract.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 7:26 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

IIRC

Towards the end there, Tim played mostly with Stewart, and even with Sanchez in his first start, rather than deal with Whiteside dropping every other pitch.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 16, 2011 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I think some of it though is that Whiteside has been with the team for awhile. They probably just giving him the benefit of the doubt and I am assuming that he was as horrible as he was last year otherwise, the Giants would have kept him as the backup C.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure, but

what do passed balls have to do with a bad elbow in your throwing arm?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 16, 2011 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Nothing

I’m saying that they’re giving him the benefit of the doubt in general based upon prior history. I mean they didn’t offer him arbitration so they obviously did not think much of him talent wise.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I can certainly understand that. They probably should have just said that though. “He’s done a good job with our staff. They are comfortable with him.” Stuff like that.

Plus I thought Stewie was going to be the backup. I suppose spring training will sort it all out.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 7:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m sure that’s the plan. I don’t have a problem with them signing him to a minor league contract at all. I actually like the guy.

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by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 7:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t mind it either. I just thought it was funny that they cited his defense as a reason.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 7:34 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s like everyone around here says — the outcome might be okay, but it doesn’t mean the process isn’t flawed.

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by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 7:39 AM PST up reply actions  

His D last year was pretty frustrating. Didn’t he also have arm problems that he played through, though?

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 16, 2011 7:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Elbow issue.

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by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 7:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah, yes

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 16, 2011 7:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m so glad they didn’t sign Beltran. Whew.

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by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 7:31 AM PST up reply actions  

It's funny

At the beginning of the offseason, I would have said that just getting Beltran would be a disappointment, and that we needed a shortstop too.

Now, if they got Beltran, I’d be prepared to kiss Baer’s ring.

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I feel beat down by this offseason.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 7:36 AM PST up reply actions  

man so true.

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by jponry on Dec 16, 2011 7:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I remember thinking “man, I’m sure that this team will just get Beltran back and then sign some stupid retread like Furcal”. If only.

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by rotorueter on Dec 16, 2011 7:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha, maybe that is their master plan.

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by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 7:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Prolly a bit more than he's worth, depending where he plays
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by GiantPain on Dec 16, 2011 7:44 AM PST up reply actions  

So, does Beltran get less than that?

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by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 7:46 AM PST up reply actions  

At this point

I have no idea. Beltran is better than Cuddyer, but he’s older and a bit more injury prone and can’t “play” infield. So who knows. I could see them getting similar deals, but I could see Beltran getting more, though I could also see him getting less.

In conclusion, nothing.

by GiantPain on Dec 16, 2011 7:47 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s why I asked. I have no idea, either. I thought Beltran would have been signed by now. The market for him — or lack thereof? — is bizarre.

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by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 7:49 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s waiting to see which teams get good leadoff guys.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 7:50 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s because he’s so selfish.

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by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 7:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ll be he’s buying himself a Christmas present right now.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 7:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Beltran thinks it’s five years ago. In a way I admire that, but it causes problems with getting a deal done.

thanks for 2010

by Southpaw64 on Dec 16, 2011 8:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Beltran thinks it’s five years ago.

What makes you say that?

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Why didn’t he offer to play LF when he got to SF? Did you notice Bochy said that’s where he’d be if he came back.

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by Southpaw64 on Dec 16, 2011 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow, the Bochy quote is out there. And clearly he didn’t offer to move to LF during the season

thanks for 2010

by Southpaw64 on Dec 16, 2011 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

How do you know that, exactly?

And, further, what difference would it have made? LF vs RF is almost entirely a distinction without a difference.

by GiantPain on Dec 16, 2011 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

No difference at AT&T? CB with old knees or Nate?

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by Southpaw64 on Dec 16, 2011 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

No. Really, no difference.

People pretend like right field at AT&T park is a mythical location. It’s a somewhat difficult right field, I guess, but it’s a right field.

For any advantage you get from having more range in right, that’s mitigated by the fact that more balls are hit to left field than right, and that therefore a good defender will have more chances to save runs than a right fielder.

It’s a wash. That’s why the positional adjustment in all the WAR systems I’m aware of is identical for RF and LF.

by GiantPain on Dec 16, 2011 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

No not mythical, a real RF with more ground to cover than LF, in that park. It would have saved his legs… also LF was a mess for us in 2010. Nate S. was clearly having a better year than Ross before he was injured. And the WAR for all fields wouldn’t apply well to a specific case like triple’s alley.

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by Southpaw64 on Dec 16, 2011 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

There were 27 triples hit in AT&T park last year

That’s tied for 9th most in the National League.

The triples aren’t a big deal.

by GiantPain on Dec 16, 2011 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

The issue with triples alley isn’t necessarily the triples. It is a lot of weird ground to cover.

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by rotorueter on Dec 16, 2011 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

It's some weird ground to cover

I’ve just never seen any evidence to suggest that it’s some extraordinarily more difficult field to play than anywhere else.

The LF has to cover a lot of ground too.

And more balls are hit to the left fielder than the right fielder.

So are you sure that it’s 100% more advantageous to have your better defender in right rather than left?

by GiantPain on Dec 16, 2011 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Evidence is watching opposing right fielders try and deal with triples alley and the brick and the weird things the ball can bounce off of.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, OK

Well, as long as you’re forming your opinion based on what you saw a couple times.

by GiantPain on Dec 16, 2011 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve just never seen any evidence to suggest that it’s some extraordinarily more difficult field to play than anywhere else.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, OK

Well, as long as you’re forming your opinion based on the theory that things don’t exist if you haven’t seen them.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Just take a look at the two wall surfaces. You don’t think one is more difficult than the other?

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

One certainly looks more difficult

But there aren’t that many balls hit that bounce off that wall, and there’s a smaller subset of balls that bounce off that wall that take a difficult bounce.

And, like I said, even if RF were more difficult, there’s also less balls hit to RF, so why not have the better defender in the position where he’ll have the most chances?

by GiantPain on Dec 16, 2011 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

The thing about ATT is that the RF has to play over to cover triples alley (and it works, which is why there aren’t a huge number of triples). The trade off is that this leaves an opening for balls hit down the line. Hence the elevated need for range in right field at ATT.
My thinking is that this is one of the reasons why the suppression of left handed home runs doesn’t result in an overall suppression of offense at ATT.

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure, I'll buy that RF at AT&T requires a little bit more range than RF in other parks

But is it to such a degree that it necessitates specialized players.

Like, let’s say you were able to run a season 2 times with identical outcomes, and the only difference between the two is that in one of the seasons, Beltran played every game in RF and Schierholtz played every game in LF, and in the other season, vice versa.

How many more runs do you think would get scored on us over the course of a season?

by GiantPain on Dec 16, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be surprised if it were in the 15-20 range.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 16, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Really? I think it’s fairly conservative to say that Nate is +5 and Beltran is -5, that’s 10 right there, in your average right field.

Nate specifically with his range and arm is able to not allow triples in the gap, and turn doubles down the line into singles fairly regularly.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 16, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Meh.

I think it’s more like 3-4 runs.

by dregarx on Dec 16, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

But no

Nate and Beltran are both going to be playing in my hypothetical.

In one universe, it’s Nate in LF and Beltran in RF.

In the other, Beltran in LF, Nate in RF.

Nate’s a +5 defender in RF and he’s a +5 defender in LF too.

by GiantPain on Dec 16, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, yeah, I read that part, but then it completely slipped my mind. I was having 2 identical seasons, one with Beltran in right, one with Nate, and everything else being the same.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 16, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

With that in mind, I’d probably say around 3.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 16, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I think I’m in agreement here. The wide open spaces plus the tendency for balls to hang up in the wind, mean that there’s a bigger payout and a harsher penalty for poor range in RF.

How much is the penalty, though? That’s tough. 5 runs sounds like too many, intuitively.

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by oldjacket on Dec 16, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

He had already moved to right field this year to accommodate Angel Pagan with the Mets. He had spring training to learn it. Maybe he was afraid to try yet another new position, one that he would have to play immediately.

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by rxmeister on Dec 16, 2011 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Just my hunch – maybe not five years ago, but somewhere between that and what his value is now. I think he wants more years than anyone’s offered so far.

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by Southpaw64 on Dec 16, 2011 8:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh I see. Well isn’t that usually the case though?

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, true. In a way I understand it with him. Still carries himself like one of the very best in the game – and he can still be a dominant force when healthy.

thanks for 2010

by Southpaw64 on Dec 16, 2011 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

IF he’s healthy. Even though they won’t I’d like the Giants to get him back. Who knows, with regular rest maybe he could still play 100 games or more?

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Totally agree. All I’m really saying is that I think he’s overvaluing himself a bit at this point. And that it’s understandable considering how good he’s been and still is when healthy.

thanks for 2010

by Southpaw64 on Dec 16, 2011 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

All I’m really saying is that I think he’s overvaluing himself a bit at this point.

Which you are, of course, making up.

by GiantPain on Dec 16, 2011 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't call it overvaluing

Beltran feels he’s worth a certain amount. Given his age/injury concerns, the market will dictate his value.

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by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I just read there’s two “mystery” teams in on Beltran. I still have hope!!

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by rxmeister on Dec 16, 2011 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm glad i'm not the only one

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by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL YOU

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

at least we don’t have to see him 19 times next year with the Rockies. They can have Cuddyer.

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by rxmeister on Dec 16, 2011 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

True.

Sad that it has come to this sort of search for a silver lining.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

How dare you

laugh at my blind optimism!

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by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow

Way overpay

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Just got my Giants tickets for next year at Angel Stadium. June 18th and June 20th.

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I'm annoyed that I couldn't get my season tickets before x'mas

now I have to buy actual x’mas gifts for people

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by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 7:56 AM PST reply actions  

I’ll wait for mine.

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2011 8:00 AM PST up reply actions  

CALL AND YELL!

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 8:02 AM PST up reply actions  

only 1 in 5 chances of a Zito start!

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by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 8:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, okay

That makes sense now. I thought jhiatt00 was suggesting that you call and yell as an Xmas present.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2011 8:09 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL

I’M JUST CALLING TO WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 8:12 AM PST up reply actions  

MERRY FUCKING CHRISTMAS ASSHOLE

/hangs up phone

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by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 8:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Haha!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2011 8:27 AM PST up reply actions  

There counting on Crawford...

He looks like he might hit… a little… sometimes.

thanks for 2010

by Southpaw64 on Dec 16, 2011 8:04 AM PST reply actions  

#Giants #HopeLikeHell #RDF

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 8:07 AM PST up reply actions  

The comet Lovejoy passed within 75,000 miles of the Sun last night and lived to tell the tale. It endured temperatures of up to several million degrees. It was expected to die, and yet, there it is. It is a zombie comet.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2011 8:08 AM PST reply actions  

That’s awesome. I wonder what happened to it while it passed by—-aren’t comets made in part of ice?

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by rotorueter on Dec 16, 2011 8:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Dirty ice

There is all sorts of weird stuff in comets. Some think that they seeded the Earth not only with water, but the building blocks of life. Earth and comet as analogs for ovum and sperm!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2011 8:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Pattern repetition in nature is endlessly fascinating.

Cities look like ant colonies look like microchips look like neural pathways…

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 16, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Rats!

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by Lunkus on Dec 16, 2011 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

/loses respect for the sun

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 8:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Like a Gibson fastball

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thanks for 2010

by Southpaw64 on Dec 16, 2011 8:17 AM PST up reply actions  

The sun is now the Rodney Dangerfield of our galaxy.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 8:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Now that it’s officially badass they should change its name to Swearengen.

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2011 8:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Open the fucking canned peaches!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2011 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

When you say expected to die

Was it expected to turn to energy or get pulled into the sun? My small understanding of physics says matter is neither lost nor gained, it only changes form.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Dec 16, 2011 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

It depends on how precise you want to be

The close pass was thought to be enough to break it apart and turn it into water molecules that would eventually be broken down into it’s basic elements. In other words: they thought it wouldn’t be a comet anymore.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2011 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

It would be fascninating to see what goes on inside when it is that hot.

Also, how freaking genius was Netwon. The laws of gravity and inertia won this round.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Dec 16, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Reminds me of

A LH hitting Johnnie LeMaster (tall SS, mostly good almost great glove)

thanks for 2010

by Southpaw64 on Dec 16, 2011 8:11 AM PST reply actions  

Does not compute.

I’m sorry,you have mistakenly used the phrase “good almost great glove” in the same sentence with the surname “LeMaster”

by Bar None on Dec 16, 2011 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

LeMaster’s defensive numbers were awful, and the reputation backs it up.

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by El Person on Dec 16, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

What's the gorugthink at the moment on the NL West teams offseasons?

D-Backs: Definitely improved?
Rockies: Definitely improved?
Giants: Meh to slightly improved?
Dodgers: N/A
Padres: N/A

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by Kitspool on Dec 16, 2011 8:21 AM PST reply actions  

Duh

I meant “grougthink”

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by Kitspool on Dec 16, 2011 8:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Dbacks were smart not to stand pat – except for Drew injury a lot of things broke their way. i.e. will Ryan Roberts have another good year and many similar Q’s

thanks for 2010

by Southpaw64 on Dec 16, 2011 8:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Lou Gorug

thanks for 2010

by Southpaw64 on Dec 16, 2011 8:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t call Rockies definitely improved. I also wouldn’t call the Giants improved.

The D-backs are definitely better off with Cahill vs Saunders.

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by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Oops meant to reply – see below

thanks for 2010

by Southpaw64 on Dec 16, 2011 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Dback's, maybe

Those home away splits and xFip and Fip numbers would not get me too excited about Cahill.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Dec 16, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

This is the thing about the NL West

Every team thinks they can either slide by or improve just slightly to get an edge. No one tries to go big to simply crush the competition.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 16, 2011 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

The only team that's improved themselves in the entire division is the DBacks

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by DFARowand on Dec 16, 2011 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

They should have signed Willingham for less money

and more power.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

For the Twins, not really but for the Rockies, Willingham would have been perfect.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Similar hitter power numbers

Cuddyer actually hurt more in last 3 years. 10 mil for backup infielder defense or worse just doesn’t look good to me.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Dec 16, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

?

Willingham has a career ISO of .214. Cuddyer has a career ISO of .180.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

When your two biggest signings are Jeremy Affeldt and Guillermo Mota, you haven’t improved.

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by El Person on Dec 16, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Those are players they already had, though. They’re constants that don’t impact improvement.

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by El Person on Dec 16, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

What about getting

Buster Posey and Freddy Sanchez back?

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

What does that have to do with the offseason?

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by El Person on Dec 16, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

They improved from the year before

by getting players back from injuries. That counts too.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

No, it doesn't

That had nothing to do with anything they did over the offseason.

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by El Person on Dec 16, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Colin Cowgill was PCL player of the year, so they think Cahill has a lot left. My guess is he’s peaked with the A’s.

thanks for 2010

by Southpaw64 on Dec 16, 2011 8:26 AM PST reply actions  

yeah he will be another one of those 23 year olds

who peaked at 22…that always happens.

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by James Westfall on Dec 16, 2011 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

He had a bad second half last year so we’ll see

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 9:01 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

He’s still better than last year’s number three. Dbacks are definitely better, the Giants are only better because Posey returns, and the Rockies will be better than they were last year, but not by much. Their pitching isn’t strong enough for them to contend.

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by rxmeister on Dec 16, 2011 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure, their SP 4-5 were probably bad. Cahill will be an improvement but they give up a pretty big pitching prospect to get him. Who’s to say that Jarrod Parker will not be better than Cahill even next year.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

They still have Skaggs and Bauer

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Dec 16, 2011 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

True

but one less prospect to worry about.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Colin Cowgill had marginal power, despite playing at Reno.

And had a BABIP of like 87,930,557

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by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Purple Row is talking about putting Cuddyer at 3B

why would you want to do that? He’s a super clank in the infield. Just stick in in LF with Fowler and Cargo.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 9:29 AM PST reply actions  

Do the Rockies really need three guys in LF at the same time?

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by Kitspool on Dec 16, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

It's a BIG OF

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s deaf in his left ear, which is why Minny played him in RF. I doubt he’ll play LF.

by shankbone on Dec 16, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

News we can use.

Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006

by Lunkus on Dec 16, 2011 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Because Tyler Colvin can't play 3B

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by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Then they probably should have signed

Ramirez

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Huh
The Red Sox are among the teams that have had cursory trade dialogue with the Marlins about Hanley Ramirez, according to ESPN.com’s Buster Olney (on Twitter). However, the talks have no traction.

The Marlins don’t intend to trade Ramirez, even after signing shortstop Jose Reyes. However, Olney reported Sunday that at least four teams have talked to the Marlins about a possible deal involving Ramirez. At this point he projects as the team’s everyday third baseman, though he appears to prefer playing shortstop.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 9:34 AM PST reply actions  

HanRam was whom the Sox traded to get Beckett years ago

For them to trade to get him back would be ironic in an Alanis Morrisette kind of way.

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by Kitspool on Dec 16, 2011 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

like

not ironic at all

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by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 16, 2011 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

You can have this prospect. And when he reaches his peak, we'll have him back on our team.

Baseball.

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by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Promoting another Giants blog (no, not that one)

http://www.baycityball.com/2011/12/15/reviewing-last-years-prospect-list/

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 9:59 AM PST reply actions  

Waiting for the Bonds news to put something else up.

I think he’s going to get executed. This will be so sad. :(

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 16, 2011 10:03 AM PST reply actions  

Psssh. Lazy.

Why don’t you make this site worth reading for once and go do some analysis and statistical research to back things up?

11 01 10
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 16, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

At least it will bring the nation a profound sense of closure.

by Your mother on Dec 16, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Which is so very importan

Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006

by Lunkus on Dec 16, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

…and the start of the NBA preseason.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 16, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Although I wish Panetta would have chosen better statements
“After a lot of blood spilled by Iraqis and Americans, the mission of an Iraq that could govern and secure itself has become real,” he said.
“To be sure, the cost was high — in blood and treasure for the United States and for the Iraqi people,” Panetta told about 200 troops and a few Iraqi officials during the 45-minute ceremony. “But those lives were not lost in vain: They gave birth to an independent, free and sovereign Iraq.”

Sounds like when the US left South Vietnam

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Didn't mean for it to be political

I just wished he had a better speech.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

“So, other than that, how did you enjoy the play, Mrs. Lincoln?"

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 16, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Not sure what's political about this anyway.

Should we pretend that the war didn’t end this week? Is one side or the other debating that fact?

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 16, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

That's how I feel

I am not talking about the war in anyway. Just that Panetta chose his words poorly.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

The war’s ended so many times that I don’t know.

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by El Person on Dec 16, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

It does.

Things could have gone worse this time around, though.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 16, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Except in this case the US wanted to stay but couldn’t come to agreement with the Iraqi government.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't care about the actual history part

I just did not like the speech and the image it invokes.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

James Harrison's suspension upheld by the NFL star chamber.

Will I miss seeing him headhunt the 49ers Monday night? Will I regret that the 49ers LOLffense will not be tested by a full-strength Steel Curtain?

No I will not.

Take your time healing, Roethlisbankle! Who’s the Pittsburgh backup QB? Charlie Batch? Kordell Stewart?

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 16, 2011 10:04 AM PST reply actions  

Batch!

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Just popped over to the Steeler's blog

cannot believe that they think that Harrison’s hit was clean.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I can.

They loves them that black-and-yellow kool-aid, and the Steelers have been loudly proclaiming their persecution complex long enough to make the fans believe it.

Remember, these are the same fans that felt Roethlisberger shouldn’t have been suspended.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 16, 2011 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

From Jonah Keri's article on Prince Fielder..
In Baseball Between the Numbers, Nate Silver notes that teams at a certain point on the win curve derive more benefit from signing a big free agent than do teams projected for more or fewer wins.1 It might seem obvious that a terrible team would gain less from signing Prince Fielder than would a playoff contender. But Silver adds that there’s a diminishing return on a free agent like Fielder for a team projected to win 95-100 games too; that team probably plays into October with or without another big bat, so signing him becomes less useful. In Silver’s model, teams projected to win 86 to 93 games are the best fit for nabbing a free agent of Fielder’s caliber, since adding a player of that ilk could mean the difference between a playoff season and a non-playoff season — and all the boosts in revenue and credibility that go with it. Churning out precise, 162-game predictions is incredibly tough to do on Opening Day, let alone in December. But every year, Replacement Level Yankees Weblog takes an early crack at it, using the CAIRO projections system and the projected depth charts found at MLBDepthCharts.com.2

Gee what kind of team does that sound like..

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by DFARowand on Dec 16, 2011 10:04 AM PST reply actions  

Link

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Dec 16, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd love Fielder.

But they seem intent on making Belt 1B of the future rather than LF of the future, so I guess that won’t work.

by GiantPain on Dec 16, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

"I know what’s not percolating. We did not bid on the vegetarian Macy’s parade float. Did not. N-O-T. Enough said."

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 16, 2011 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

No Tax Hikes and no Big Ticket Items for this team

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Dec 16, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Beltran makes more sense to me

Put Huff at 1st and let Belt simmer for a year should the 4 WAR Huff return, or bring him back and DFA Huff.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Dec 16, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Funny thing about all that: That sounds like a damn good defense for the way the MVP voting is usually done.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 16, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Someone just sent me a link to a review of a new book about called “Bargaining with Baseball: Labor Relations in an Age of Prosperous Turmoil” by Stanford Law professor William Gould. The lawyer types around here might be interested, though it seems that it might be interesting to any baseball fan.

http://www.dailyjournal.com/prmo/prmomain.cfm?location=SF&eid=919742&pcode=11121216

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by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 10:07 AM PST reply actions  

Uh, remove that extra “about” in the first sentence.

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by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I lol'd in spite of myself.

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by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

The Green Bay Packers has not trailed in the 4th quarter this year. We are in week 15.

#discountdoublecheck

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by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 10:13 AM PST reply actions  

Take a shot!

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

And I'm a robot!

Beep berp beep berp!

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 16, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I shamelessly love that commercial.

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by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

ROGIASSSSSSSSS

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by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I love the “oh, are you a dancer?”

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 16, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Packers lacking in greatness

Not a good comeback team.

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by Lunkus on Dec 16, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

WHAT IF AARON RODGERS WAS A TEBOW?

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Dec 16, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

In his dreams

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RODGERS OR TEBOW? TAKE YOUR PICK.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

JOE MONTANA? OWNED THE STICK.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

DAN MARINO? STILL A PRICK

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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by scout6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Ryan Fitzpatrick could use a Bic.

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by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Andrew Luck: #1 pick?

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

i am nervous to start Rodgers against the Chiefs

since he very well could sit out the 4th quarter like last week…I have a championship to win.

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by James Westfall on Dec 16, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Cheifs have a surprising defense

That did not show up last week. Coach is fired. Pack likely to grind them down running when winning late. Chiefs might not even score 10.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Dec 16, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

the problem is that the Chief offense can't stay on the field

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

They have a pretty good D. The problem is that they are on the field for 50 minutes of the game.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

THEY WILL THIS WEEK AND THEY WILL LOSE!

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I would not be upset if they talked about this on SportsCenter for three hours a day.

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by El Person on Dec 16, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

It is wrong for me to be sad about Torres' highlights

being filed under the Mets’ website?

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:15 AM PST reply actions  

No, not at all

This is actually the first time ever that you’re not wrong about something.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Dec 16, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I would like to see this

a lot this year:

http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=18228827&c_id=mlb

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

ELI WHITESIDE and MIKE FONTENOT

All that I can say is thank god these two will be a part of the 2012 Giants.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1DwUC4IkDM

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by James Westfall on Dec 16, 2011 10:16 AM PST reply actions  

OPEN BAR

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 16, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Although this is good too!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Office Holiday Luncheon in SF today.
The only day a year (barring a funeral or court appearance) on which I wear a tie.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 16, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Open bar at lunch? That’s no fun if you have to go back to work. We had our office party last night with an open bar.

by City Girl on Dec 16, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

It's fun if you have to go back to "work," though.

I mean, Friday afternoon after a open bar holiday lunch? I’m guessing not to much work is expected afterward.

11 01 10
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 16, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Thankfully

We don’t go back to work. Cocktails start at noon, lunch around 1:30, and then afterwards we take our drunk asses to some bar where we meet up with significant others and the like who are barred from attending the employee only luncheon.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 16, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Somewhere good?

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 16, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

(obviously it has an open bar, so it’s good)

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 16, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

mmmm bbq

Our office is doing dinner and drinks at the Claremont tonight.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Dec 16, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Classy!

I had a friend who lived across the street from there.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 16, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Had a quick look at the wine list—who does this remind you of:

Argyle Pinot Noir, "Nuthouse", Willamette Valley, 2008

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 16, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL!

Overlord, Mariner Division!

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 16, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah, I walk by by Wexler’s all the time, and I always wondered what type of food they served.

by City Girl on Dec 16, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

that sure is a fancy bbq joint

by Countificus on Dec 16, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Fuck You

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Indeed!

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 16, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Depends on intonation

Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006

by Lunkus on Dec 16, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

de fault

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Dec 16, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

It's Free!

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Barry Bonds

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Followed by Dr. Dre

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Unstoppable bat

(TWSS)

@legaleagle88
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I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Brian Sabean

Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.

by James Westfall on Dec 16, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Similarly

Truly rural

Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006

by Lunkus on Dec 16, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

rural juror

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Dec 16, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Beer Me!

Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.

by James Westfall on Dec 16, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

November 1st

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

of course there is always

Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis and Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey Gais

I need some input related to the McCoven awards. I made the request in the Fan Post, but I’m being obnoxious and posting a link to it here, too: http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2011/12/14/2636895/the-sixth-annual-mccoven-awards#85877195

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I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 10:32 AM PST reply actions  

Hi KDL!

I’m here to help!!

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 16, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Does that thing go to 11?

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Hah...

Only goes to 10.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 16, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Do you like the 1 hole or the 2 hole better?

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Both

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

This used to be such a family blog…

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 16, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

What?

That’s a legitimate question for Angel Pagan

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Depends. Middle infielder or center fielder?

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Dec 16, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL

Thanks.

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by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m just glad that I was left relatively intact there.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Hardball Talk @HardballTalk 1m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
The Cards are "realizing traction" on Carlos Beltran dlvr.it/10qXGr #mlb #hbt

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Dec 16, 2011 10:35 AM PST reply actions  

it makes sense

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I"m guessing Craig wrote the article.

by Hyoton on Dec 16, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Whoa

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 16, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

What is this I don't even

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

that’s one shiny fellow.

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

isn't that Michael Vick?

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

If he was black

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking Chris Rock, but what do I know.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 16, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

UNPACKED!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Donovan McNabb

"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"

by CB30 on Dec 16, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Sad

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

If we "somehow" start this alignment

LF Cabrera
CF Pagan
RF Schierholtz
3B Sandoval
SS Crawford
2B Sanchez
1B Belt
C Posey

That’s a plus defender in every position. This might be the best run prevention team in baseball when you include the pitching staff, bullpen included.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 10:45 AM PST reply actions  

Fair point

/starts Huff in left
//Pill at first
///Melky in center

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 16, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

It will be a lot better than last year.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Low bar.

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

It would be very difficult

not to subsantially improve from 2011

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Brian Sabean found a way

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Depending on health may not be the best move,

but if this team maintains modest health, a “below average” offense with this pitching staff is enough to win the NL West.

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I am not as optimistic

The Dbacks have an above average pitching staff and an above average offense. Bauer might even take over a starting spot in July. That’s one scary, scary looking team.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm in this line

Best defensive OF in baseball.

A real line up.

A good pitching staff even with Kennedy likely coming back down to earth.

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Dec 16, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I just don't see the big difference in the Giants lineup and AZ lineup

CF: Young > Pagan
RF: Upton >>> Melky
LF: Parra = Nate
3B: Roberts << Panda
SS: Drew >> Crawford
2B: Johnson < Sanchez
1B: Goldschmidt/Overbay < Belt/Huff
C: Montero < Posey

Each arrow is one oWAR. The key is SS and 1B.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Giants don't need the best offense to win the west

Nor will they have it. Unless they get more July 2010 production. Please Buster, give us a year of that!

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Dec 16, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

?

Buster is projected to have a 5.6 fWAR season. So a 4 oWAR season is not crazy.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I know WAR but what is fWAR and oWAR?

by Countificus on Dec 16, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

fWAR is Fangraph WAR…it combines offensive and defensive WAR.

oWAR is offensive WAR and is separated by baseball reference from dWAR (or defensive WAR).

Since we’re talking about offensive production, oWAR is appropriate.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

i would rather have goldschmidt than belt AND huff

Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.

by James Westfall on Dec 16, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

you realize that

chris young is a 4+ WAR player and that his defense and his 20/20 production is far greater than that of Angel Pagan?

the only team in the NL West who has a weaker lineup than the Giants is the Padres.

Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.

by James Westfall on Dec 16, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Angel Pagan vs. Chris Young

Pagan had an outstanding 2010 season where he logged 5.5 WAR via fangraphs. for his entire career he has 10.3 WAR…which is to say that if not for his 2010 he would have a career WAR closer to 5. As a point of reference Jeff Keppinger has a career WAR of 5.3.

Chris Young has put together back to back seasons of 4.6 WAR, is 2 years younger, plays better defense and is a 20/20 threat every year…the two are almost not comparable.

Pagan is basically Andres Torres with less defense.

Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.

by James Westfall on Dec 19, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Giants' offense had

an oWAR of 15.3 in 2010 and an oWAR of 13.9 in 2011.

I think the Giants can get back at least 4-6 WAR with the players we have versus last year’s performance?

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Huff could do that by himself

COULD operative word.

Hard to know what will happen. Full year of Buster should boost 1-2 WAR by himself.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Dec 16, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Of course

everyone is guessing at this point. I mean Pujols can go to Anaheim and fall of the cliff Huff style but it’s not reasonable to assume that.

Considering the awful production by and injuries to the lineup last year, it’s not hard to expect that the Giants offense can improve enough to get to league average.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Why?

Torres was awful as was Huff and Belt.

Posey was out for 2/3 of the year and replaced by replacement Cs

Sanchez was out for about 2/3 of the season and replaced by Bill Hall/Kepp/Burriss

Huff/Belt be default has to be better than 2010 versions of themselves…at least one to two oWAR

Between those players alone, there should be 50-70 runs scored additionally. That’s league average.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

After all the shit that went down last year

(and 201, ftm) how can anyone dare to project anything? This is what I love about this place in general.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 16, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

*2010

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 16, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

If we ain't projecting,

we ain’t breathing

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't be hatin'

Start extrapolatin’

"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark

by iammclovin on Dec 16, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Freddy Sanchez

is probably going to miss time again this year considering he hasn’t played in 145 games since 2008 and is probably good for about .280 with 5 HR’s and 45 RBI’s…he’s presence in the lineup is probably worth 1 WAR.

Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.

by James Westfall on Dec 16, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure

but Giants just need an average offense.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

this is not an average offense

But it can produce average results, with some luck. Time to prey like hell.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

wow I just went all Sandusky there didn't I.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

The correct phrase is “hope like hell.”

@legaleagle88
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I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND BASEBALL

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

NOW THIS DESERVES A REC

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Dec 16, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Giants were

4 runs below league average in 2010. (697 v. 701)

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Here we go again

The NL team average WRC+ is not 100. The Giants were above average for the NL by WRC+ in 2010.

by Hyoton on Dec 16, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

You are starting to sound like me.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

See above…we will have an average offense if

1) Posey is a 3-4 oWAR player
2) Sanchez is a 2 oWAR player
3) Huff/Belt combine to be a 2 oWAR player
4) Pagan is a 2 oWAR player
5) Melky is a 2 oWAR player

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

And everyone else does what we expect. Hope like hell™.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 16, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Those are not unreasonable expectation

those are basically starter level numbers.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

You realize that at this point last year we were penciling in Ross and PtB to have a bunch of ABs, right?

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 16, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure

but I am not sure what that has to do with anything.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

You can’t count your chickens before they’ve hatched. Assuming an entire team will play the way you expect it to (especially when some are coming off of injuries) is a good way to be let down.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 16, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I am not talking about what I am hoping for compared from one year to another. I thought the Giants offense was going to be very good in 2010 but it was wrong. I am just talking about the reasonableness of improvement over what actually happened last year.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I’m with you on improvement. I think we will be better offensively than we were last year. I’m just less sure that we’ll be able to make the jump up to average.
I was just using last year as an example of, this is what the offense can look like in December and this is what it can look like come next September sort of deal.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Dec 16, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

looks worse than last years offense did going into the year

Mark DeRosa , he had his moments.

by oldjacket on Dec 16, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 16, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

That is kind of sexy, now that you mention it.

by Evan on Dec 16, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Any news?

Baseball great Barry Bonds is scheduled to be sentenced Friday at 11 a.m. in a San Francisco federal courtroom for his felony conviction of obstruction of justice.

by Turf_Toe_ on Dec 16, 2011 11:04 AM PST reply actions  

he must had two separate posts written up depending on the outcome

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Sheeeeit

Hyperlink, sentence, post, Skyrim.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 16, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve been meaning to play Skyrim because it looks awesome, but then I remember I get really stressed out and dont enjoy those games because I keep thinking I made the less enjoyable choice and want to go back and try it the other way, every time.

Also, I can’t leave a box unopened and if there’s an item that can be carried I want it. You know, in case I really need a pot or a bottle of wine sometime later.

Elder Scrolls games induce serious bouts of video game OCD for me.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Dec 16, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

……Over encumbered, you can move this time though. But slowly

"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"

by CB30 on Dec 16, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Always have a trainer to remove that.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Dec 16, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I couldn’t get into it the first time I tried it. I designed a cool looking character and then you never really get to see him. Mostly though, the combat was meh. Although I only played for about an hour.

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 16, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

From the videos I've seen I was disappointed with combat

It looks like where ever you hit them they just have blood start gushing out from their junk.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Dec 16, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Hmm, tell me more.

by Hyoton on Dec 16, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m the same way, but I’m into this one. There isn’t a lot of alternate paths/backtracking in the temples/dungeons.

I fucking hate being overencumbered. So annoying.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 16, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Filed under things Bengie Molina never said
I fucking hate being overencumbered. So annoying.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 16, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I want to read the “wrong” one. I need to get me some McC Platinum.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 16, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Okay, I figure it will hit the twitter universe first.

by Turf_Toe_ on Dec 16, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

BREAKING NEWS:
Lance Williams @LanceWCW 5m
Bonds has arrived in court BLACK SUIT — he’s thin — perhaps as thin as he was before he 1st went to BALCO (and broke the HR records)

FORMER PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE NO LONGER HAS MUSCLE MASS NOW THAT HE IS NOT PLAYING PROFESSIONAL SPORT EVERY DAY

OBVIOUSLY IT WAS THE ROIDS!

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:06 AM PST reply actions  

So, he’s in the best shape of his life!

by Turf_Toe_ on Dec 16, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Ok Lance

You’ve made your money on Barry’s name (get in line). Let’s leave him alone.

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually, most guys muscle mass turns to fat and they look bigger when they’re middle aged.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 16, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I resemble this comment

by Turf_Toe_ on Dec 16, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

(me, too, actually, it happens to women as well.)

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 16, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I just saw an ad where a woman is looking at her laptop.

For the briefest second, you can see they changed the logo to a pear.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 16, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

This is why I’ve planned for the future and avoided muscle mass completely.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Dec 16, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Good luck

For me, that plan failed.

Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006

by Lunkus on Dec 16, 2011 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't even have any muscle mass

I just got fat :(

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

From today

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

No shit

Can we get him back please? I would like to see 800.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Dec 16, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Pessimist

I think he could still obp around .400.

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

But he’d have to play LF better than Huff — gotta win the job.

by Turf_Toe_ on Dec 16, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

20 HR's

easy

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by James Westfall on Dec 16, 2011 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

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Tigers’ Al Alburquerque out till All-Star break after elbow surgery

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:09 AM PST reply actions  

Isotope he gets better soon.

(Sorry.)

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 16, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

BREAKING NEWS!!

Barry Bonds sentenced to wear banana suit and do the thrusting dance!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2011 11:09 AM PST reply actions  

BREAKING NEWS

Barry Bonds sentenced to PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 16, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

BREAKING NEWS

Barry Bonds questioned regarding whereabouts of the bird.

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

This is where I come for my news

by Turf_Toe_ on Dec 16, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Does he have to pick up trash on the side of the road in that banana suit?

by Turf_Toe_ on Dec 16, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

BOOM!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

also available for bachelorette parties!

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 16, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Is that supposed to be his tail and its turned sideways?

by City Girl on Dec 16, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s a “sock.”

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 16, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

It rhymes with that.

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2011 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks like the banana was opened unconventionally. Our is that not part of the costume at the bottom?

"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark

by iammclovin on Dec 16, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

BOOM
keithlaw @keithlaw 54s Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Once he’s eligible, Barry Bonds belongs in the Hall of Fame. #barrybondssentences

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by DFARowand on Dec 16, 2011 11:10 AM PST reply actions  

Was gonna post that.

But yeah. Law knows.

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s about what I figured. Two years barely counts as probation.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 16, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I was surprised it was that much, but I don’t know federal sentencing guidelines.

by Hyoton on Dec 16, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL Government spending
Mark Fainaru-Wada @markfwespn 1m
Judge intens to folo probation recommendation — so, unless convinced otherwise by lawyers, 2 yrs probation, 30 days location monitoring
Mark Fainaru-Wada @markfwespn 1m
Illston: i think jury got it right, Mr. Bonds tried to obstruct justice but ultimately didnt interfere with the case.
gwen knapp @gwenknapp 3m
Prosecutor: Bonds lived double life 4 years. Mistresses through his marriages. Judge: He wasn’t convicted of that. Someone in gallery claps
Mark Fainaru-Wada @markfwespn 2m
Judge: listing 4 reasons probation officer recommended no prison. Strike by how much philanthropy BB did out of public eye

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:32 AM PST reply actions  

Man, for all that money we could’ve seriously blown some shit up.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 16, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I lol'd.

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I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Enjoy this site, but don’t actually blow stuff up.

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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Dec 16, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope that line tickled your litigation bone!

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 16, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Gosh!

I was so hoping for permission from Old Spice® to go a explosive rampage.

Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006

by Lunkus on Dec 16, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

BREAKING

Freddy Sanchez

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Dec 16, 2011 11:33 AM PST reply actions  

Comes off as bitter whining, no?
Mark Fainaru-Wada @markfwespn 1m
Govt: insisting underlying conduct Undermines the system, Comparong to other sentneces. Judge unlikely to be swayed.
Mark Fainaru-Wada @markfwespn 38s
Govt: years of steroid use, lying about it, made lot of $. Urge court to send message, this is slap in wrist. $4,000 fine almost laughable
Mark Fainaru-Wada @markfwespn
Govt: home confinement joke in 15,000 sq ft house. On community service, BB should have to do PSA-like ad or something re: his crime

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:34 AM PST reply actions  

I also like Wada's use of "comparong" here.

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

fuck that

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Dec 16, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

BUT WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE SYSTEM

YOU KNOW, THE ONE THAT LEAKED GRAND JURY TESTIMONY!

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

NEVERMIND THAT

BOW TO THE MEDIA! NOW! DO IT NOW!

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

This

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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

This

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

This needs a green frame.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 16, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Happy to assist.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 16, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Already green

but I rec’d it anyway.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 16, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL
Mark Fainaru-Wada @markfwespn
Defense: we’ll pass on responding. Will be appeal on conviction.

“…Nah, we’re good.”

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

hmmm, wonder if they will appeal. He got such a baby sentence, it might not be worth it.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Dec 16, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

he really really hates Barry Bonds

made money and a gig at ESPN of him, but hates nonetheless. Sad.

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Time for him to get a job.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Dec 16, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I heard Pennysaver is hiring.

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Dec 16, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d laugh if he got busted trying to take a kilo across state lines.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 16, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes

cuz years of steroid use should be considered.

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by CalBear949 on Dec 16, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

PSA: Kids, don’t do steroids. It’s true it worked out great for me and I socked a ton of dingers and made boatloads of money, but steroids are bad. Ok?

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 16, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

BAM
Mark Fainaru-Wada @markfwespn
Judge: 2 years probation, 30 days location monitoring/home confinement; 250 hrs community service
11:37 AM – 16 Dec 11 via Twitter for iPad · Details

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:38 AM PST reply actions  

lulz

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Seriously, how are you going to get Bonds to do 250 hrs of CS?

by Turf_Toe_ on Dec 16, 2011 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Play for the Giants next season fro free,

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

fro!

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

He played fro free is whole career!

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
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by jhiat00 on Dec 16, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL GOVERNMENT!!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2011 11:41 AM PST reply actions  

Mark Fainaru-Wada @markfwespn now
Defense: talking about appeal plans for conviction. Believes substantial appeal, wants to stay sentence on appeal

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:41 AM PST reply actions  

LOL
Mark Fainaru-Wada @markfwespn
Judge: stays the whole sentence while BB goes through appeal process.

Mark Fainaru-Wada @markfwespn
Adjourned.

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:44 AM PST reply actions  

LOL

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

for sure

proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.

by son of ggf on Dec 16, 2011 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

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