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Fuck this offseason

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by marcello on Dec 14, 2011 10:14 AM PST reply actions  

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha that's all it would have taken to get Jed Lowrie?

hahahahahahahahahaahhahahahaa

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by thebighead on Dec 14, 2011 10:34 AM PST reply actions  

No, he was too busy snagging Affeldt for $5 million

and trying to sell Matt Cain and Timmy on Cabrera and Pagan, instead of Beltran and Furcal.

Responsible for the last great homegrown Giants team.

by Al Rosen on Dec 14, 2011 10:42 AM PST reply actions  

Rafael Furcal just signed for two years, $14 M with St. Louis. Do you seriously think the Giants should have tried to give even more money and/or years to a shortstop on the wrong side of 30 who can barely stay on the field? He’s played in more than 100 games once in the past four years.

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by leftymalo on Dec 14, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm reminded our "trade chip" reliever was RamRam...

He of the poor prior Boston performance. If indeed the sox have been aiming their MIF depth for the best reliever possible all along, I don’t think we should’ve come close to offering a quality arm such as Melancon. Looking at his peripherals, he looks like a good 8th-inning set-up man at the least. The starter thrown in has some real upside too.

Now, I’m going to torture myself that Santiago Casilla for Lowrie straight up should have happened.

Honest question, would you have traded Romo for Lowrie-Weiland?

by sanfranfreakshow on Dec 14, 2011 11:30 AM PST reply actions  

I find the excessive Lowrie love around here confusing, but I’m shocked that’s all it took to get him. If all it would take was Ramon Ramirez, why the hell not?

by Monkeyking42 on Dec 14, 2011 11:36 AM PST reply actions  

I think it’s less Lowrie love and more dude we need a shortstop. Lowrie is a shortstop.

by Mrbasepaul on Dec 14, 2011 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

UPSIDE

Lowrie’s done a pretty good job tearing up the minors, and has a .320 wOBA in parts of four seasons (presumably if he stopped getting jerked up and down and got healthy he’d be quite a bit better, particularly with his MiLB record). He can play shortstop acceptably (actually above-average UZR for his career, but it’s only 500 innings or so). He’s under team control through 2014. There’s a lot to like there, particularly for a team like the Giants that has nothing to lose by pinning all their 2012 SS hopes on him. The backup plan would be Crawford, and as that’s the primary plan (not that I disagree) now, it’s clearly a superior option.

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by quincy0191 on Dec 14, 2011 11:55 PM PST up reply actions  

“Jerked up and down”? I think you’re mistaken in that. I don’t believe he’s been in the minors on anything other than rehab stints since he was brought up for good in 2008.

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by Roger on Dec 15, 2011 8:06 AM PST up reply actions  

“Tearing up the minors” is overly generous. Certainly his 2007 split between AA and AAA is very impressive. But his 2006 and 2008 were less so. His major league 91 wRC+ isn’t bad for a SS, but it’s not great either, and at 28 and with the injuries piled up, I don’t see any reason to expect anything better.

I didn’t realize his UZR numbers were positive (SSS, of course). That’s interesting. What I’ve heard from Boston is that he’s below average at short.

I agree that he’d be preferable to Crawford.

by Monkeyking42 on Dec 15, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d say a 115 wRC+ in AAA for a SS is pretty danged good.

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MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!

by Roger on Dec 15, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw this

Got pretty pissed. Even after we traded Ramirez, presumably the Sox could keep Weiland and take a slightly worse reliever? Or two? Casilla+Affeldt?

After weeks of “we’re not dealing him” they trade one of their better chips for Melancon? I…just…blurgh.

Seth Rosin can hit the side of a barn with a baseball. From space.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)

by quincy0191 on Dec 14, 2011 11:56 PM PST reply actions  

Another team with a surplus of SS and Sabean doesn’t bother to pick up the phone. Ugh

by m34josh on Dec 15, 2011 12:58 PM PST reply actions  

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