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Andres Still A Giant?


Tick tick tock. We are coming up on the deadline for a decision a lot of Giant fans are dreading. Andres Torres.

Coming off a 2011 season where he put up 221/312/643 in 398 plate appearances its fair to say Torres struggled mightily during the season. Whether it was battling leg injuries or his much publicized battle with ADD, Torres had to take a seat on the bench at times, paving the way for Rowand's 351 PAs, which added a big freight car to the train wreck for sure. Andres struggled with curve balls, high fastballs and had some really bad baserunning gaffes. Still, he played great defense as usual.

So Sabey Sabes deliberately doesn't say anything about Torres at his end of season presser, stating instead that they have a need at CF. According to Baggs, Torres is in the weight room working out as the conference was going on. Melky Cabrera is acquired. Torres is arbitration eligible at an estimated 2.5MM. Some fans see the promotion of Tyler Graham to join Justin Christian and the signing of Gregor Blanco as Sabean creating leverage to lowball Torres into a take it or leave it contract, as low as $1MM. There is also the very real chance of an outright DFA.

One argument is that Torres is 33 years old, he has had the usual hammy/quad injuries that speed guys get, his ADD issues can't be fixed and his bat has faded away. The Giants can't fix his issues, and have to cut ties.

Another argument looks at his 3 seasons here, Baseball-Reference WAR of 1.8, 4.6 and 1.3 in the past 3 years for a total of 7.7 WAR. Very useful player, even as a 4th OF and pinch hitter/runner assuming he can't get back to that career year in 2010. Will he continue to put up this type of value is ultimately what the Giants have to decide.

Perhaps more than any other Giant from the World Series run, Torres sparks a lot of emotion and love. He won the WillieMac award, he took over from bunk ass Rowand and he ran with it. He's one of my favorite underdog stories and one of my favorite Giants. I want to be in the 4th OF camp. But I have to acknowledge its a steep hill for him to climb and the Giants might have very good reasons for going in a different direction.

Quick poll: What will Sabean do here: (NOT what SHOULD he do)

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