Introducing Coco Crisp, Future Giant
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 3, 2011 11:23 AM PDT
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Come on. You know it's true. From the Chronicle:
"Covelli has made it clear that he would like to play for a team that is determined to compete, and he'd also like to stay on the West Coast," Comte said, using Crisp's first name. "I think the Giants would be a viable option for him and vice versa."
Let's see what's going on with the teams on the West Coast:
- Angels: Have Peter Bourjos
- A's: Can't even afford to buy their players sodas
- Padres: Have Cameron Maybin
- Dodgers: Have Matt Kemp
- Diamondbacks: Have Chris Young
- Mariners: Possible match
The Mariners might be interested. Crisp has that perfect mixture of great defense and passable offense that attracts Seattle, who will blissfully ignore that every single player with passable offense goes there and morphs into a hungover Hal Lanier.
But that quote has nothing to do with the Mariners. Everything the agent said had to do with the Giants. It was basically one of these:
And when you read things like this ...
Sounds like Giants more likely to spend their few available $$$ on CF rather than SS (Reyes, Rollins)
... combined with this ...
Starting Center Fielders Who Are Free Agents
- Coco Crisp
- Grady Sizemore
- Rick Ankiel
- Whooooops, Sizemore's right thumb just fell off
- Lemme just tape that back on
- Aw crap his knee melted
- Cody Ross
- Medic! We need a medic!
There's a chance the Giants will pursue Sizemore. A small chance, and that's a post for another day. But every single sign in the baseball world is pointing to Coco Crisp on the Giants. It's inevitable. And I think Crisp is a fine, worthwhile player, he is a lateral move at best, which makes this all very strange.
Crisp will have the occasional above-average season offensively, but for the most part, he's very predictable. He plays a great defensive center field, he usually has an OPS+ around 91 or so, and he steals bases at a very high rate. He's a good player.
For a team that can't score runs, is claiming that funds are tight, and already employs a fantastic defensive center fielder who is cheap, he is an absolutely bizarre player to target. Just bizarre. I know that Andres Torres had a down year with the bat last year, and that there are concerns with his ADHD and patterns of sleeplessness, but the only thing I would put money on him doing worse than Crisp next year is steal bases. Torres was good for 2.1 fWAR last year. Crisp had 2.2. I'm not wild about using WAR as a definitive way of ranking players, but if the theory is that Torres and Crisp are similar players, the stats back it up.
Crisp might be an upgrade. He might be the better player next year. But right now the Giants have nothing at shortstop. They're going to have to overpay Carlos Beltran to stay, and they might be reluctant to do that. They aren't going to go after a premium free agent.
When the offseason is over, we might look up to see that the Giants spent all of their money on left-handed relievers and a defensive-minded center fielder. And Ryan Ludwick. Always Ryan Ludwick. That would be ... disappointing.
There are other options. A trade for B.J. Upton would be similarly redundant and cost prospects, but it's a possibility. Ross is still out there. Hey, so is Rowand. Rick Ankiel! But nothing seems quite as inevitable as Coco Crisp on the Giants, leading off on Opening Day, 2012. Get used to it.
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You made a very convincing argument.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
I debated with the high school domination club until they applied that ball gag.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I got kicked off when I yelled “Fuck you” at the other kid. It left him speechless, I thought that was the point of the debate club?
Did you really?
Ron White tells a similar story in his standup routine
So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.
It wasn't quite like that
I was a Freshman in high school when this happened. The question was about Cold War politics, a topic I knew nothing about, so I yelled at the other kid because he was a no-it-all. So I got kicked off the team.
He’s handsome, but suffers from certain short comings.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Huh?
Are you saying he’s inappropriately surnamed?
So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.
That is true, but again, that’s okay.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
And how do we know this?
So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.
Luckily I am in a cafe and thus can’t surf to guyswithiphones without my back to the wall.
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
It’s blocked by work—so apparently it’s a real thing.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Oh, I know it well. I always check the celebrity page to see who’s posed in a mirror with an iPhone lately.
Michael Stipe had a whole photo spread with mysterious yellow canisters.
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
I never did get that.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
I assumed he had a boyfriend/friends over, found guyswithiphones, and decided to be artsy and smutty.
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
I’m not sure about him.
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
Are Sizemore supporters in these parts going to become SizeQueens?
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
SizeWhores
Cuz like, it rhymes and stuff
The Giants finally won the World Series. Now what?
by jordanovich on Nov 3, 2011 12:01 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Not at all
The Giants finally won the World Series. Now what?
by jordanovich on Nov 3, 2011 12:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
GRADY!
We need more Sanford & Son jokes.
Also, small penis. I wonder if his teammates point and laugh.
Sizeless.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 3, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Should’ve asked Crawford that the other day. “Who has the biggest penis among the major-league Giants? Who in the minors has a bigger penis than anyone on the major-league team? Who are growers and who are showers in the shower?”
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A.K.A. – the day my press credentials were revoked.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
yet ANOTHER sex scandal in the wild world of public broadcasting.
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
We’re getting’ pretty saucy on the low end of the dial these days.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
YOU BIG DUMMY!!
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I’d rather have Crisp because of the fro
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His ’fro has to be worth several increases to his VORP
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 3, 2011 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
The short term solution is Andres Torres. The long term solution is Gary Brown.
There doesn’t need to be another step in this process.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
for some reason this comment made me think of the the days of the “fightin’ hydrants”. never forget.
by MadisonBumpleganger on Nov 3, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Who were they talking to this morning on M&M Kuip? He said he thought that the Giants would non-tender Torres and try to sign him for cheaper [my bad grammar not his] That the Giants didn’t want to take the chance of going to arb for Torres who would probably receive a significant bump in pay.
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Yeah
This whole thing is really confusing to me. Even if people think Crisp is better than Torres, which is largely debatable, it’d be pretty tough to argue that he’s more than marginally better.
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I’m not sure how you argue that Crisp is noticeably better than Torres.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Microsplits, a blindfold, and grain alcohol are a good place to start.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
If you’re the Giants? Strikeout rate.
That’s all. Torres is 23% on his career. Crisp is 13%.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly, this explains so much of the Giants’ decision making recently that I don’t see why we should even try to look at it another way.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder what howie has to say about this.
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This makes a lot of sense.
I’m curious what Howie thinks though.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I knew this was GP before I even saw his name.
and I agree.
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Nov 3, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
So much this!
Forget the extra LOOGYs, forget Beltran (we all know that means no Belt and the delta isn’t enough to justify bringing him in), forget a 1B FA (we all know that means no Belt and the delta isn’t enough to justify it) and forget trying to tie up all your pitching to long term deals this year (except maybe Cain).
Just get Reyes and call it an off-season. Give him a massive 7 year deal if that’s what he wants. It’s the biggest bang for the buck times 10.
Give him a massive 7 year deal if that’s what he wants.
I’ll take “Things that the Giants front-office will never do again” for $500, Alex…
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree that they won’t but it is so wrong. How soon they forgot how good the massive long-term deal they gave Bonds was. Zito and Rowand should not be the poster children for long term deals. They are just the bad examples.
That said, I would prefer the front office not making long-term deals to the alternative, because the people who run this team are stupid and incompetent and allowing them to assume more risk is the worst thing that can be done.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Almost every player is more of a Zito or Rowand than they are a Bonds.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Right
Reyes is, though.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
No. He isn’t.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
The Giants agree. They would rather break up that 7-year contract offer and split it up between a number of replacement level players because we all know replacement level players can not be replaced.
Yes, I absolutely agree with you.
That money 3-4 years hence will be going to some combination of Sandoval, Cain, Lincecum, and Bumgarner.
Replacement-level scrubs!
I wouldn’t have signed Affeldt and Lopez to those contracts.
The willful ignorance that a 7-year deal to Reyes wouldn’t have a significant impact on the retention of several of these players (I’m especially worried about Sandoval and Posey, given the FO’s stated preference for “preserving the pitching”) is just obtuse.
Such confidence!
Observe the current highest-paid players of baseball. Not just a majority, but an overwhelming majority of these players are being overpaid relative to their value, and about half of them are being paid at least twice as much as their value, year-to-year.
Zito is not some kind of exception when it comes to these contracts. Zito is the norm. If you are going to make that plunge, you need to be incredibly certain in assessing the player as worthy of such a risk, and even then, your chances of getting a positive return on investment (i.e., performance above market value for the duration of the contract) are exceedingly slim.
I’m sorry, Reyes simply does not engender that kind of confidence in me, nor does he really fit all that nicely into the assortment of contracts the Giants have currently.
Here’s the list of top-paid players, for those interested:
Rodriguez, Wells, Sabathia, Teixeira, Mauer, Santana, Helton, Cabrera, Halladay, Howard, Beltran, Lee, Soriano, Zambrano, Hunter, Zito, Bay, Suzuki, Beckett, Burnett
by dregarx on Nov 3, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
And really, GiantPain..
I had thought the resulting performances of these following players whom you ardently desired the Giants to acquire at large contracts for many years would at least give you pause, or cause you to reconsider:
Jason Bay
Carl Crawford
Jayson Werth
I didn't want Crawford
I’ll cop to Bay, but it’s not like a lot of his performance hasn’t been affected by the fact that he had a damn concussion.
And even I recognized that the Werth contract was terrible. I wanted him for like 80 million or so over 5 years. And I still think that would’ve been a good idea.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
There's a reasonably good counterargument on your side
That takes Reyes’ age and the fact that he is overall a better player than these three as testament to his being a better signing.
But really, when the contracts get this large, even the best of players get overpays, not just the pretty good ones like Zito and Werth.
Reyes is
Under 30. Plays a premium position well. Is athletic and in great shape. These are all the things you look for in signing a premium free agent.
The injury history is a concern, sure. No one’s perfect.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
IMO, you really want all the pieces to fall into place before you sign one of these deals, if only because they’re generally not cost-effective.
Reyes has one strike against him, with the injury, and I’m with you; just one wart isn’t enough to make him a bad signing.
The consideration that kills it for me is the way the Giants’ contracts line up currently. Ideally I’d want a good deal of money to go off the books the year before signing one of these contracts; say, a Zito-sized deal. Then there’s really a big impetus to use that extraneous cash and bring in a highly productive star, without losing the payroll flexibility that’s crucial to roster adaptivity over the next 3-4 years.
A signing like this is a big sacrifice of the team’s adaptability and subsequently overall strength in the following time range: 2014-2016.
And I realize that many fans here prefer to make that sacrifice for exceeding excellence in the short run; but I don’t. I look to sustained excellence over the long run, and if the current product is hurt to some degree as a result, it’s a fair trade for me.
That’s just how I roll.
Rowand's off the books after next year
As is Huff. Zito comes off the year after that.
To sign Reyes, you’d have to boost 2012 payroll. But 2013 and 2014 payroll could shrink as big contracts come off the books and guys making the minimum salary replace them.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
You've wiped out all of your payroll flexibility in 2013 and 2014.
One guy gets injured, or a couple of guys underperform, and you’re toast.
We can run those numbers; I’d rather not, and I haven’t done them, but I’m fairly sure I’m right here.
How many shortstops in baseball are more desirable than Reyes?
Offhand, I can only think of Troy Tulowitzki, but he’s got an injury history and he’ll never be on the market anyways.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
In terms of shortstops I'd rather have regardless of cost
It’d probably be Tulo, Ramirez. Andrus, Castro, and Cabrera would get consideration just because of how young they are.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Oh, right, forgot about Ramirez
They might as well just give him partial ownership in the team. He’s not going anywhere.
Is Castro still a butcher at shortstop? It seems like he might be better at some other position.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Almost every player is more of a jelly donut than they are a Bonds
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Mayor of Smug.
If we were to just get Reyes and extend Cain, I would be thrilled with this offseason. Of course that’s why it won’t happen.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
You can’t have nice things.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, I’m a big Crawford fan and really hope he does well. But I know it’s like a 3-sigma (or maybe 4-sigma) chance. I’m happy to keep him as plan B and pray he is a late bloomer.
Well, isn’t a 3 or 4-sigma chance about a 93%-99% probability. If that is the case, then I’d feel pretty optimistic about Crawford.
by GrabSomeWinePete on Nov 3, 2011 3:05 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That’s just quality control slang for “outside of a 3-sigma event”. And 93%-99% would be a 2 to 3-sigma range.
My point was, I’m guessing it’s less than 1% chance Crawford becomes an average MLB shortstop. Probably about a 10% chance he is good enough to stay on a MLB team for his career. Of course, that doesn’t mean the Giants wouldn’t keep a SS that isn’t good enough for MLB on their team forever.
1% chance he's an average MLB shortstop?
I’d say that’s low. He was a .5 WAR player for a little under half a season as a rookie. 2 WAR isn’t out of reach.
Brandon Crawford: Better than overpaying for Jimmy Rollins.
by Azmanz on Nov 3, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ok, I’m picking up what you’re putting down. Sorry, I got a C in stats (and I work in QC, so God help us). And, yes, keeping a SS who isn’t good enough for MLB around forever sounds about right for the Giants. But, like you, I am also hoping he is a late bloomer.
by GrabSomeWinePete on Nov 3, 2011 4:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
We can hide some cash in his afro.
For that rainy day.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Nov 3, 2011 11:31 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
A little side note to the WAR comparison.
Crisp played in 25 more games and got nearly 200 more PAs last season.
Presumedly, Torres would have piled up much more than the .1 WAR difference had he played as much. In an effort to prove how little I know about advanced stats:
fWAR/600 PAs:
Crisp: ~ 2.2
Torres: ~ 3.2
I know it doesn’t quite work that way and the math is very loose. But there you go.
by BestHyperboleEver on Nov 3, 2011 11:34 AM PDT reply actions
I have a bad feeling about this.
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35 years ago today
Jimmy Carter was elected as the nation’s 39th president. Of particular interest to Messrs. Pain and Person might be how the news was covered and how the results were conveyed that morning. It is pretty interesting to see how election coverage has changed, as well as proof that Tom Brokaw was, at one time in his life, young.
Here’s the first hour of Today, Wednesday, November 3, 1976.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
So what you're saying is
Jimmy Carter is old.
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
And people who voted for him. And people who remember him. And people who were alive when he was in the White House.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
LOLALLOFTHEM
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Well I fucking hate Jimmy Carter
Fucking asshole can go to hell.
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Whoa. He’s a very nice guy!
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
No he is a fucking asshole
Severed diplomatic relationship with Taiwan in 1979. Declaring that China is the only sovereign government body and recognizing Taiwan as part of China.
He unilaterally, without consent of the congress, terminated diplomatic relationship with the Republic of China (Taiwan) in December 1978.
Fuck him. Die in a fucking fire. Asshole Douchebag.
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I think JCT might need Pres. Carter to go with a case of said beer and then build a number of complimentary houses, and perhaps even coffee/lunch places, for the good people of Taiwan who were dealt this blow by President Peanut.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think you guys truly grasp how awful it is
when you get told “you do not have a country anymore, you are now part of another country. we will not recognize you as a sovereign state. now go be part of China. Oh, keep selling us cheap stuff that’s made in Taiwan, we’ll recognize you through a separate Taiwan Relations act that allows us to buy shit from you”
This was the single most embarrassing moment for Taiwan in the last 40 years. And Jimmy Carter is the single man responsible for it. So excuse me when I fucking hate his guts and would not shed a tear if he gets run over by a bus tomorrow.
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Has he ever discussed that decision looking back?
Obviously I know it would be of little no recourse to the Taiwanese, but I’m curious if he has regrets or anything.
And sorry to attempt to trivialize or humor a sore subject.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you blame Nixon too?
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
That was basically the start of it, wasn't it?
Nixon normalized relations with Communist China. And at the time, Taiwan was insisting that it represented all of China, thanks to being ruled by the equivalent of Viserys III Targaryen (the son of Chiang Kai-shek, the exiled general, who no one wanted). China, for its part, thought of Taiwan as its territory, which was also wrong. But who are you gonna side with if you want a powerful ally, the tiny island who will still trade with you no matter what, or the big landmass with 1 billion people with nukes?
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Nov 3, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
That would be worth noting if the US had a history of refusing to associate with military dictatorships.
Carter did kind of care about that sort of thing
But what I mean is that, from a moral standpoint, it’s not as though the ROC was a paragon of freedom standing bravely against the evil PRC.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
I can see that point
But there are degrees of evil. The Cultural Revolution kind of makes anything the military leaders of Taiwan might have done seem like leaving the toilet seat up.
Oh, certainly. They weren’t quite as bad by the late ’70s, of course.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Definitely
And this is a little apropos of nothing, but what’s McC for? I was just reading Mao’s wikipedia page, and I came across this gem:
However, after Mao’s death, his personal physician Li Zhisui published a memoir of unique insight into Mao’s private life: The Private Life of Chairman Mao, which claims that Mao chain smoked cigarettes, never bathed or brushed his teeth, rarely got out of bed, was addicted to sleeping pills and had a large number of sexual partners from whom he contracted venereal disease.
Um, ew? It’s the combination of “never bathed” and “large number of sexual partners” that gets me.
Maybe he used those big deodorant crystals.
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
On his wang, at least.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, unintentional Chinese surname pun.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s the life.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I have this book
it is quite a hoot
Jonathan Sanchez isn’t likely to be traded unless the Giants fall out of contention. Jonathan Sanchez isn’t likely to be traded unless the Giants fall out of contention. Jonathan Sanchez isn’t likely to be traded unless the Giants fall out of contention.
Mark DeRosa is more than the sum of his tendons.
that would have been
very handy on the Long March.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, they were basically an Asian version of those Central American dictatorships who the US supported because they were anti-Communist.
It’s telling that the one of the first things Taiwanese people did once they had real democratic elections was throw Chiang Kai-Shek’s statue in the sea.
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Nov 3, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
The Kuomintang was essentially a colonial regime, albeit one deprived of the home country.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
It was also a tournament Frank Dux had to fight in.
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The KMT was bad initially (i.e. 1950s-1960s) but it was much better in the 1970s and a whole lot better by the 1980s.
S Korea had pretty much the same road.
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The normalization of relations with the Communists basically made it inevitable.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
The 'Carter Cozies Up to Dictators' history largely unknown. How did he win a Peace Price?
Dude had such a hard on for all things Soviet that America would come to back any state actor as long as he’d resist the commies, no matter their ideology. The thing is, it does sometimes matter whom it is you associate.
Carter supplied the murderous Suharto regime in Indonesia with bombers, fighter jets, napalm, etc, actively inserting the US into extermination of hundreds of thousands of East Timorians.
Likewise with the brutal Somoza regime in Central America.
And his support of the Shah of Iran.
And Jimmy Carter’s creation of the ‘Islamic Militant Network’, the forerunner of Al Qaeda didn’t work out quite as planned. The Soviet-Afghan War was largely Carter’s doing.
by biff pocoroba on Nov 4, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
He forced Russia into it.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 4, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
He bought Russia a bunch of drinks and you should’ve seen how that tramp was dressed.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 4, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
jctGamer
I mean wow aren’t you the BIGSHOT!, to call someone an a..hole over the internet.
You’re so pathetic… your kind would never have the guts to say it to his face, I’m glad I’m old, it won’t be long that I will no longer have to live on this earth with your kind.
OK
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by natteringnabob on Nov 4, 2011 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Obviously you have drunk entirely too much Billy Beer.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 4, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I understand: it's personal but
if you look at most (if not all) of the politicians we’ve had in this country for . . .ever . . .then you know the deal-making leaves lots of blind spots. So, if you’re going to hate, hate away, but find me one that we can all really love, together.
Don't believe everything you think.
Me too.
I always thought he got screwed. Royally. Stupid sabotagied helicopters and political shenanigans.
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I’ll have to read up on him. Why was he so hated?
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He wasn't cheery enough.
I think the “malaise speech” really was the last straw.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
I never hated him. He was just seemed to me [at the ripe old age of like 13] to be politically naive and a little too down to earth. Wear a sweater? Decrease dependence on foreign energy? And have to make SACRIFICES???? Never!!!!!!!!!!!!
There was the damn hostage thing too. I was only in jr high when he got elected.
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Yeah, and then we found out Bush Sr. was doing deals with the Iranians to keep the hostages there until they got Reagan elected.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
lol
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by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 3, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think it was supposed to be Bush Sr.
I believe it was William Casey, who definitively did go on to conduct some shady deals with the Iranians. The “October surprise” thing, though, has not been conclusively proved. Still, t’s hard to put anything past Bill Casey.
A similar case, for which there is solid documentary evidence, was Kissinger sabotaging the Vietnam War peace talks during the election of 1968, when he secretly communicated with the North Vietnamese and advised them to wait until after the election because they’d get a better deal from Nixon.
Investigative journalist Robert Parry is the one who has covered most of the issue. I remember reading that Bush sr could have taken a high speed jet to meet with the Iranian in France or something. That the jet was available to him and that he wasn’t accounted for at the specific time.
Bush sr has been tied to a ton of dirty stuff. He’s the kind of guy who does a lot of it himself and not have others do it for him.
The Reagan campaign needed to show good faith to the Iranians by sending top people to meet them.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s probably safe to say that anyone who was at one time #1 in the CIA has probably done some dirty shit.
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Except for Fran Allison.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
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Yep
Still, I have a reluctant admiration for GHWB. Unquestionably the finest Republican president since Eisenhower. Shame about the idiiot son.
Bush sr was described as someone who is very loyal to those he served. You give him orders, like lap dog, and he’ll do what he’s told. He was competent at everything he did.
I’m conflicted about him, because on one had he’s accomplished a lot in his life and is deserving of a lot of respect, but on the other hand, he did a lot of things that contradicted this.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
The elder Bush
like the younger Bush, comes from a patrician Connecticut family, a family that has used it’s money and influence to manipulate public resources into private hands. The Idiot Son may have wreaked more havoc, but do not anoint The Elder with anything but excrement.
Don't believe everything you think.
Not sure if that's unquestionable
Ford was better than the first Bush, I would think. Bush looks much better than he ought to because he’s always compared to his son.
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Wasn’t the first thing Ford did was to pardon Nixon? If so that’s a huge strike 1 for me.
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Yeah, pardoning Nixon was bad, but it didn’t really materially affect many people. I don’t think it was particularly actively harmful.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
It’s an example of the two different rules of law in this country. Especially one that imprisons more people (for lesser and lesser) crimes than any in the world.
It’s a subject that really bothers me but I can see how one could look past it I guess.
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First he bumped his head on the doorway walking into the room, then he dropped his pen on the floor, next he bumped his head on the table while picking up said pen….andthen finally he pardoned Nixon.
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Dude had a rough day.
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I believe Bush sr was the most competent president our country may have ever had. That’s not saying he accomplished the most or was great leader or anything. Ronald Reagan was more liked by the public than him obviously. Bush was good at everything he did.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Ford was only in for two years
It’s kind of hard to judge him.
But Bush I negotiated, at no small political cost to himself, the deficit-reduction deal that helped pave the way for the prosperity of the Clinton years. He (apparently, we have a conterfactual problem) facilitated the orderly dissolution of the Soviet Bloc and ultimately of the Soviet Union itself. I’m less thrilled that he fought the “good” Iraq War, but at least he kept us out of the quagmire his son couldn’t.
It’s important not to give the West too much credit for the collapse of the Eastern Bloc. That was essentially due to internal problems in the Soviet Union.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
I think the emphasis in taliesin’s comment was more on “orderly” than the dissolution itself.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
Yeah, I guess that was more a general comment than one specifically directed at him. It’s always interesting to read material from that brief period around 1990 when people thought that the Soviet Union and the United States would be friends in the future.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Assigning praise or blame for the way the breakup of the USSR and its satellites was handled always puts me in mind of Zhou Enlai’s quote on the French Revolution.
Oh hell, some guy on the internet shoots that one down.
True
We obviously have no way of knowing if, with a different US president, things would have turned out worse (or better). But it certainly seemed like the kind of situation that could have gone extremely badly (as in “nuclear exchange” badly), and it didn’t, so I’m inclined to give GHWB some credit for that.
OTOH, you’re right, it’s not as if the current Russian government represents what we would have hoped for back in 1991.
The debt reduction caused a division in the Republican party’s unity. “No new taxes.” He had to do it, though. A main reason why he didn’t get re-elected.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
His utter lack of charisma had something to do with it. But I do respect that he did the reasonable, right thing with regard to debt reduction.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
You should have started that with ‘SSS, I know, but….’
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
But the thing is, Carter was trying to do the same thing. He wanted to get the hostages released so he could get re-elected.
So it’s legal for Carter to talk to the Iranians and make a deal, but not the Reagan campaign? Seems unfair to me.
Nixon did the same thing in 1968. Lyndon Johnson was trying to get the North/South Vietnamese to work out a peace agreement. Vice president Hubert Humphrey stood to win the election. Nixon’s campaign, including Henry Kissinger, promised the South that they would get a better deal, so they walked away from negotiations.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
So it’s legal for Carter to talk to the Iranians and make a deal, but not the Reagan campaign?
If they were, in fact, trying to get them to hold the hostages for longer than yeah, it should be illegal. Even if they were trying to work something non-shady out it should have been in conjunction with the current administration.
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No doubt it was treasonous. All I’m saying is that it’s unfair.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn’t the fact that Carter’s selfish motivation dovetailed with getting the hostages released as quickly as possible make it a wee bit different?
by BestHyperboleEver on Nov 3, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Um...
There’s a wee bit of difference between trying to accomplish something good which, by the by, will increase one’s political prospects, and committing treason to further one’s political prospects.
(BTW I’m not by any means convinced that the “October surprise” thing really happened, but if it did happen it certainly was treasonous.)
Yes, it is legal for a duly constituted elected executive to conduct foreign policy.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That’s why Reagan had to do that “tear down this wall” bit in Germany. If he was not president he could have done it from the Friars Club in New York.
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Mostly bad luck
Partly it was a case of him being an outsider to Washington and having a bit of an outsized notion of what the President is really capable of. As a result he had a dysfunctional relationship with Congress, even members of his own party, right from the get-go.
Mostly, though, I’d say bad luck. It’s hard to see how it’s his fault that the second oil embargo happened, causing a recession and a huge spike in gas prices (and in general inflation). I suppose you could say the Iranian Revolution and subsequent hostage crisis was somewhat his fault, but it’s not as though his policies vis a vis Iran were really any different from those of his predecessors. It just so happened that the shit hit the fan on his watch.
In general, if the economy sucks when you’re president, you’re in a lot of trouble. Throw in a foreign policy disaster, that makes it worse.
Reading his wiki page. I think I would have been down with Jimmy Carter.
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He made microbrews possible
For this alone he deserves our undying gratitude.
On December 2, 1980, he signed into law Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act. The law provided for the creation or revision of 15 National Park Service properties, and set aside other public lands for the United States Forest Service and United States Fish and Wildlife Service. In all, the act provided for the designation of 79.53 million acres (124,281 square miles; 321,900 km²) of public lands, fully a third of which was set aside as wilderness area in Alaska.
His other policies aside, setting aside millions of acres to be protected as wilderness was a tremendous accomplishment, in my opinion.
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In many ways
Jimmy Carter was too idealistic for politics. I think he got stuck half way in and made blunders that were inconsistent with his ideals, which only exacerbated the problem.
Don't believe everything you think.
Asking ’mericans to make sacrifices makes it worser.
Somehow we lost something after World War 2, or those sacrifices were exaggerated. I’m not THAT old so I don’t know first hand.
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When you ask Americans to make sacrifices, they say "No. LOL U"
When you ask the Greeks to make sacrifices, they riot in the streets.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 3, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
You’ve got to love their enthusiasm.
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The Greeks also aren’t wild about paying taxes.
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Americans typically grumble and then pay most of their taxes. Greeks just don’t at all.
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I find it funny that Kent Hovind is in prison for not paying income taxes, which he says don’t apply to him. The creation account is to be taken literally, but the part about rendering unto Caesar doesn’t register.
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This opinon is gonna get me into trouble.
Kent Hovind is a great example of of why that libertarian mantra of ‘paying taxes at the point of a GUN’ doesn’t pass the smell test. You have to work really, really hard to be thrown in to jail over tax fraud.
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Further confirmation that Wesley Snipes is a hard worker.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Claimed a 4 million dollar tax refund!!! I wonder how often that actually happens.
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I saw this article today
Those crazy Greeks….
It’s odd that Reagan still gets the credit for getting inflation under control when it was Carter who appointed Volcker.
Yeah
Carter is definitely the poster boy for the politician who always tried to do the right thing and it just made him more and more unpopular.
Bush I is definitely in that vein. He had a recession, savings and loan crisis, end-of-Cold-War decision to cut dramatically military spending and close bases (despite his military roots), and he tackled all of the problems, even raising taxes because he was a fiscal conservative more than a supply-sider (he coined the term “Voodoo Economics” during the 1980 primaries, IIRC).
Even The Nation, IIRC, the left-leaning publication, had a story years ago about him being one of our best presidents because of all the shit he had to handle. But again, bad economy = voted out if you’re not FDR.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Nov 3, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think it was so much a bad economy as it was the economy going through a transition and specific industries feeling the impact. Manufacturing and the military were the hardest hit, I believe. Independent voters who supported Reagan didn’t support Bush in his re-election bid.
The media really laid into him hard. He was the Republican version of Jimmy Carter.
Bush political strategist, Lee Atwater, had died. He was the Karl Rove of his day, but even better. Bill Clinton would have been savaged.
Banking, finance, corporate money propelled Clinton’s campaign. He was a say anything, do anything candidate. He was the new version of Ronald Reagan, but worse.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
… and that’s the #1 reason why Carter lost. Reagan just got lucky that putting the brakes on the economy and restarting things happened to dovetail with his administration. And that relieving inflationary pressure made it a great time to lower taxes.
It wasn’t Carter’s fault; if we want to assign blame it should go to LBJ and his Congress. It also wasn’t really Reagan’s triumph. But hey, Reagan did kill Carter in the charisma department.
Actually, Carter is supposed to have been this super caring wonderful person (I was 2 when he was elected, so I marginally remember his actual presidency), but in the years since he definitely has come across as a rather contrarian, insufferable guy. He’s just kind of annoying when he isn’t building homes for poor people.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Nov 3, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Crap...I picked today to go to lunch with a vendor
and you guys had this great champagne room sub-thread.
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Ooh, excellent. 1976 was a really fun election because of how odd it was. Mississippi was a swing state! So was California!
Also, since the United States became a major world power with the promulgation of the Roosevelt Corollary, only one President has conducted a foreign policy that was primarily focused on doing the morally right thing. No points for guessing which one it was.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Career numbers
Crisp: wOBA .327, wRC+ 98, fWAR 24.1
Rowand: wOBA .333. wRC+ 99, fWAR 26
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Nov 3, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
This is going to happen
And it will be stupid.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 3, 2011 11:40 AM PDT reply actions
Fuck you Cleveland
For breaking up the outfield of CoCo Crisp and Milton Bradley. Now we are paying the price for it.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
This pretty much summarizes my reaction after reading this whole post.
Giants Baseball: The road here was paved with good intentions.
Crazy theory
They would be doing this to placate Beltran who said he wanted a good leadoff hitter in front of him. We’ve seen Beltran on The Franchise giving advice to Torres, which was largely ignored. Perhaps all the Torres hate by the team is generated by Selfish Beltran.
Wouldn’t it be amusing if they did stuff to attract Beltran and he blew them off anyway?
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
“All the Torres hate on the team”? Where’d you ge that?
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Just an exaggeration of the lack of love for Torres coming from press conferences. Everyone seems to love his personality.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
I love Torres. He patiently posed and smiled for dozens of pictures just for me so I can snap the perfect pic. Course they all turned out blurry…
I love him, too. And it has nothing to do with his abs or his pants wearing. At all.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
by Tortured on Nov 3, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He actually stood still for that long? LOL
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, Beltran did say that the Giants need a new lead off hitter and that someone like Jose Reyes would be a good fit. Beltran also essentially said that Torres wouldn’t be good enough and Sabean and Bochy seem to agree. I don’t think Coco Crisp is what he meant either, but Sabean may not have the money for anyone better.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
BECAUSE TORRES IS NOT A LEADOFF HITTER
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
My plan with T-Mobile is about up and I’m looking at my usage so I know what sort of plan to look for. Over the last 4 months I averaged 117 minutes and 712 texts. I knew I texted more than talked but holy crap.
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Huh, I get an 18% discount with Verizon because of my job.
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Uh, Verizon Phone Sales Rep?
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No, I heard we do so I went to their website. It has a thing where you put in your work email and it said I do.
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Yeah, the Mr. gets some kind of deal like that too. I think maybe if you work for some biggish company and they use company x for their phone service….company x throws in an employee perk.
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Well my work blackberry is through AT&T but my cow orker seems to think that Verizon offered it in order to compete with the AT&T discount we get. They are the only to cell phone companies here so it makes sense.
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you have a lot of cattle where you live?
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We have employee/corporate discounts with t-mobile, apple, att, verizon, dell, microsoft and a few others.
It’s a win/win/win/win/win!
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They just need to release the Galaxy Nexus already so I know how much it will cost.
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I’m figuring $249ish.
But yeah – it’s all speculation.
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I wonder if this is one where we'd have to trust that the FO know more than we do?
Torres is so obviously similar to Crisp that if they signed Crisp, it might be that Torres’ “issues” are just too big a concern to trust in him at all. He wouldn’t be the first player to wash out because of what was going on between the ears.
It saddens me to bring it up because Torres seems like one of the coolest of the cool guys on the team, but it certainly could be the case.
So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.
I love Andres. I’m just not so sure the Giants should depend solely on him as the everyday CF.
When is Brown expected to hit Fresno?
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2012 seems reasonable, unless he just skips AAA
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As ever
If they actually know something we don’t, that’s a whole other thing.
But if they’re looking at Crisp’s recent performance and Torres’ recent performance and making a judgement based on that that Crisp is better, they’re wrong.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Torres is a great guy and I would love to see him with the Giants next year. I also wouldn’t mind though if the Giants looked for other options in case Torres has another year like last year.
His year last year was fine.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
So was Crisps.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Also, total value is total value
Torres is a phenomenal defender, no matter what you think of defensive metrics. He is a good complete player. His defense is phenomenal, and he’s cheap, and he hits well enough.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Also, total value is total value
The last 2 years Beltran and Crips have both given 5.5 WAR
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Nov 3, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Over the last 3 it’s 8.5 to 7 in favor of Beltran, so .5 WAR/year average advantage.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Nov 3, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
How about a "Criptionary"
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What are their options?
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Crisp, Sizemore, see if Brown is ready. You’re doing yourself a disservice if you at least don’t do some research on other options first. I’m not saying the Giants should sign someone else, but they should at least evaluate the situation.
Crisp is not an improvement, or a marginal one at best.
Sizemore is a huge question mark and might be a COF at this point.
Brown isn’t ready quite yet.
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I have looked at the other options. Torres is the best of those. Maybe Sizemore if he comes cheap.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
People keep mixing “lead off hitter” with “CF” instead of keeping them separate. Torres would be fine if he were batting 8th in the lineup.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
It depends on their batting averages.
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An excellent point
For reference:
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by El Person on Nov 3, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Merely having the same player already on the roster is not going to be an obstacle. We had Randy Winn, but we still went out and got Dave Roberts. We had Winn and Roberts, but we still traded for Rajai Davis. We had Winn and Roberts and Davis, but we still went out and got Aaron Rowand.
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Job 1:14-15
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Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
Everyone misses the big picture
We can sell fake affros and cereal. The marketing alone will be money in the Rainy Day Fund!
by Myemail21479 on Nov 3, 2011 11:49 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Cereal concession. Hmm.
$5.00 per 1 gm/1 cup of milk
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
The busiest cereal vendors would be in the upper deck.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
It's inevitable
He’ll steal 30 bases. Have a terrible OBP.
My hope is that we get the plus defense he’s had most of his career.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
If he has a .340 OBP ...
He’s cool. Don’t mind him in theory. Just mind that he’ll come over with Yuni or Alex Gonzalez instead of a real shortstop.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 3, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I think Alex Gonzalez would be a good pickup as a backup or contingency plan.
He looks like a second Uribe to me.
Which explains Uribe’s girth.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
The Way Out of Coco Crisp Mess
Is to trade a bullpen arm to the Mets for the rights to Angel Pagan’s arbitration. One year deal, 5MM, there’s your damn leadoff guy Beltran, sign the damn papers.
Is Pagan superior to Torres? Not really, but hey, the grass is always greener. And newer.
Let's say Sabean signs Sizemore and Beltran
with Buster back, Sanchez batting 2nd and Sizemore leading off, is that a sufficient enough upgrade to just start Crawford?
Signing Reyes or Rollins would eliminate the possibility of re-signing Beltran, so the question is, would you rather have Betran/Sizemore/Crawford or Schierholtz/CoCo/Reyes or Rollins.
Yes these scenarios include an abundance of assumptions but humor me fuckers.
by ThePasswordisWillieMcgee on Nov 3, 2011 11:58 AM PDT reply actions
I like to think Rollins and Beltran is possible.
Me too, but realistically I’d be very happy with
Sizemore – cf
F.Sanchez – 2b
Sandoval – 3b
Posey- c
Beltran -rf
Huff-1b
Belt-lf
Crawford – ss
(with Schierholtz & Torres, or Ross as our other OFs)
Don't believe everything you think.
I think Sizemore is looked at as a joke. It’s one thing to start him in CF, it’s another to have him lead off.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
What would be wrong with that?
I mean, if he went back to being Grady Sizemore, he’s a guy who can easily post OBP north of .350.
Jeff Sullivan has a good post about that on LL. Short version is that “back to Grady Sizemore” isn’t a sure thing, as his K:BB ratio and average have been declining for a few years – possibly because of swing adjustments made to avoid injury.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 3, 2011 12:39 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Who would win in a Battle Royal between Sullivan, Grant, and Jon Bois?
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Grant’s small but feisty.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
And knows how to fight dirty.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
is that what really happened to the lost mod?
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For now….
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
That’s why there’s a big risk in signing Sizemore. But if you’re willing to take that risk, presumably that means you think there’s a good chance that you will in fact be getting a reasonable facsimile of the 2007 edition. So then you should bat him in the order accordingly. If you’re gonna bat him 7th, why did you pay him $8M?
Starts doing the auto complete thing and nothing else out of the ordinary, returning results for that search?
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Neither do anything for me.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m on Firefox. I’m cool with not experiencing the grandeur though.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Works fine for me.
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Well la ti da.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Suck it, ninety-nine percenter!
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/separates you two before it gets ugly
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
/runs ’em over with a Range Rover
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That escalated rather quickly.
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
Gots to be HTML5
Older browsers won’t manage the feat
Oscar Wilde may have been a brilliant and talented man, but at the end of the day he was still a cocksucker, just like the Dodgers.
Worked for me on firefox
try typing it out
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Did not work at the office this afternoon (websense)
does work at home.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
RABBLE RABBLE GRUMBLE BUMBLE
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
For a historicaly bad offense- defending Torres?
Defending Torres with fWar and horrible offensive numbers seems counter productive. With question marks to Sanchez and Posey, having Torres as a third is not a good risk.
Coco eliminates risk, even if the end results are likely to be the same. And he is younger, his wRC are 127 (injury shortened) and 100 last two years. Torres had unreal 133 and horrible 85 in those two years. I think Coco’s chance of going over 120 is greater, and over 100 is greater and he is 2 years younger.
For the record
Putting league average offensive guy in CF and NOT upgrading anything else would be a mistake. Coco is not THE answer. Of course over paying for him is possible too (the A’s gave him 4 million in 2010, for 4-6 million he would be serviceable)
by Myemail21479 on Nov 3, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think acquiring Crisp eliminates any risk.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Yuniesky Betancourt is the face of the Rainy Day Fund
Every hit he got in the playoffs tore at my soul because I knew Brian Sabean was probably watching.
by ThePasswordisWillieMcgee on Nov 3, 2011 12:06 PM PDT reply actions
I don't know
can we afford BOTH Coco and Yuniesky? /rolls eyes.
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ORLY?
Coco eliminates risk…(injury shortened)
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Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
reply fail @ Myemail21479
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Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
Eliminates risk of bad season
As far as injury risk, this board is considering Sizemore, Reyes and Beltran.
by Myemail21479 on Nov 3, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
"Eliminates"
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
Looking at his BR stats
Coco Crisp seems like a faster Torres that hits slightly but is not as good defensively.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
hits slightly better
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
mmm hmmm so Crisp AND Beltran in the outfield? Oh that’ll be a treat. At least now I think “If it’s to right center, Torres will get there and I don’t have to worry about Beltran running through jello.”
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Do we think Beltran's ego would allow him to play anywhere other than right field?
Left field, I’d be interested in signing him. No where else would he be good enough defensively.
by mrs. owlcroft on Nov 3, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it would with this being the off season. My understanding of him not wanting to switch was that he’d be “learning” a new position in the midst of the season and didn’t want to feel uncomfortable out there.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Nov 3, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m curious how much money Crisp is asking for.
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
5.75 mil in 2011
And likely due a raise. Pass. Why can’t we keep Torres? Why can’t we have nice things?
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
Because I didn’t watch the A’s very much this past season and because there are only 6 or 7 people in the East Bay who actually attend their games, I don’t know much about Crisp’s defense in CF. But I’ve heard that he has a very weak arm. Is this true, stats nerds?
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
Yes
Think Rowand range, Damon arm.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
It's true.
Not quite Johnny Damon, but pretty damn close.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 3, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt Damon?
"He has maybe one of the best arms I've ever seen; he could be playing by the concession stand and he's not out of position." - Andy Skeels, talking about 3B Chris Dominguez.
Johnny Angel?
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
His real name is Covelli?
Do not want.
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Nov 3, 2011 12:43 PM PDT reply actions
No, he should’ve changed his name to Charles Carsten.
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Nov 3, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
/unpacks this comment, lumps you in with Natto
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Your last name’s Garelli?
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Nov 3, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I still watch Newsradio regularly.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Nov 3, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
You really should. Anything that can be that funny with Andy Dick and Joe Rogan should be regarded as magic and treated with the appropriate fear and/or respect.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Nov 3, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m okay with this.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Nov 3, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh my, TJ’s has these very soft demi baguettes oh my, my, my….
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
YES, BUT, NATE’S NOT A LEADOFF HITTER!
HELLL-LLLLO
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
So guys, who loves Jimmy Carter up in here
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
woot woot
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
Yep
The kind of guy you do NOT want in a position of power!!!
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
Well, Nixon was a pretty effective leader
At least if you ignore the whole “treason” thing.
I just wanted to talk about the Today show.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
Not there yet but I'm warming to him.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Odd and Even
/waits in line
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 3, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
My Z key gets a lot of use during these increasingly frequent economics/politics discussions. Talking sports online can get a little nuts, I don’t even want try to wander down those paths.
They do seem to be happening with alarming frequency.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
I have stalker updates if you think that would throw off the sex in the champagne room?
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
It’s now three hours later, but I would like those updates.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Says the guy who started it.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
By mentioning the fact that Carter was elected 35 years ago today. Shocking, I know.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
You should know better! For shame!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I swear, if someone ruins my Today moments, I will tear this place apart.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
That anything like Precious Moments ?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Precious Moments has harder hitting journalism.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Hey, hey! We’re talking about CLASSIC Today, all right? So lay off.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
I like to think that someday you will take over that show and make it the best that it can be.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Jimmy Carter is unrated.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Anti-Covellians Unite!
I’d take a flyer on a cheap-ish Grady Sizemore. Otherwise, hang with Torres until Brown is ready.
"He has maybe one of the best arms I've ever seen; he could be playing by the concession stand and he's not out of position." - Andy Skeels, talking about 3B Chris Dominguez.
McCovelli Chronicles!
Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.
I learned about "GWAR" from a Beavis and Butthead episode years ago
I didn’t seek to learn any more about them.
Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.
by D4P on Nov 3, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Very fun live show.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Showering the next morning was always a very colorful experience.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe one of the craziest, awesomest, amazingly fun concerts I’ve been too. I saw them during the OJ trial and they had this crazy wrestling match set up where a guy in a huge paper mache OJ head and a knife took on a large, paper-mache head Pope armed with a crucifix. Lots o’ blood and the feeling I was going to hell, or would if I wasn’t Jewish
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 3, 2011 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
One magical evening I saw Jello Biafra, wearing a giant Bill Graham costume and playing the part of the legendary impresario, get summarily executed via decapitation.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I learned about them from Empire Records
"The knowledge of the game is inversely proportional to the price of the seat." ---Bill Veeck. •Read My Blarrrgh...er, um....Comic. That doesn't really come across so well when said sarcastically. The Lunatic Fringe•
by BruteSentiment on Nov 3, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Aww CRAP.
This does not bode well for the ticket to their performance at the Regency next Friday night does it.
R.I.P. Cory Smoot.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
'Fraid not.
Cory was a hell of a showman though, he was really good at interacting from the stage with the crowd on an individual level while Dave Brockie was doing his thing for the whole audience.
Dammit!
I’ve had many opportunities over the years to see them and always failed.
Bought tickets months ago for Friday.
Enough about me – thought to his band-mates and family.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
.
saw them twice, once with Green Jello.
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WARNING: Self-promotion...but it's relevant
As posted yesterday:
"The knowledge of the game is inversely proportional to the price of the seat." ---Bill Veeck. •Read My Blarrrgh...er, um....Comic. That doesn't really come across so well when said sarcastically. The Lunatic Fringe•
by BruteSentiment on Nov 3, 2011 1:03 PM PDT reply actions 16 recs
LOL him kicking the tire.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
needs nicole kidman in a bonnet with a shotgun
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
Definitely GP in the bottom right
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
Not sure if this has been pointed out already but...
And I think Crisp is a fine, worthwhile player, he is a lateral move at best, which makes this all very strange.
Why on earth would it be considered strange to see the Giants making a lateral move at aditional cost?
Brian Sabean swapped Miguel Tejada for Orlando Cabrera while still paying Miguel Cabrera and giving up a useful minor leaguer.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
Asdrubal?
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Yes Please !
UZR Porn
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=17009861
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
UZR actually rates him as a pretty awful defender IIRC
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
That is simply not possible. It only serves as further proof that defensive metrics cannot be truly trusted.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Orlando Tejada...?
Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.
by D4P on Nov 3, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Academic
I don't have a very high opinion of southern California, in sports or in general
by short_shifter on Nov 3, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Well the cat is happy. I just took the heated throw out of it’s storage box. And of course I had to plug it in to see if it still works. She won’t be going anywhere for awhile!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Man, I thought I spoiled my cat with his drinking fountain. A heated throw? He’d never leave the spot.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
I had Cheerios instead, healthier.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
DO YOU HAVE A JOB YET?
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I apologize for the previous comment.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Me neither
Let’s burn down Oakland.
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
You like s’mores? I got Hershey bars.
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
Wait for me!
Tortured’s hubby might also want to join us.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Did the general strike effect anyone at all?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I bet Apple’s slave-built gadgets land at the Port of Oakland.
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
Me: "Those Apple factory cities sound pretty hideous."
Apple Employee: “But the suicide rates aren’t any worse than in similarly sized population centers!”
I wonder if they have meetings about it.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
The people whose businesses were vandalized.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
That sucks. Unless they were payday loan places.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
There’s this one guy who sells snappy suits. He was on TV talking about it. Also that lady who sells handmade purses. And the A’s.
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
The A's?
What happened, did someone throw a tarp on the Coliseum?
Fuckers always have to ruin stuff.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
If it was anything like some of the rallies and marches I’ve participated in it was more like: protesters protest, drum, chant, shout, and march then it gets dark and they go off to get some hot cocoa and the lunatic fringe anarchists (just getting off BART from their homes in Alamo) take over and go bat shit crazy destroying stuff.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
if only there was a comma or semi-colon
@JustinVerlander
Justin Verlander
Got a big announcement coming out tonight
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
Are CY Youngs being announced tonight?
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
a stupid giveaway, I’m guessing.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s coming out tonight! WOW
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Nov 3, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Since Crisp coming to the Giants is basically a forgone conclusion, I can start to cope with it now.
As for the charade of the Giants re-signing Beltran, that will be dragged out for months.
Where's he going?
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
LOL me
Thinking he got another job somewhere
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I always felt bad that he thought I hated him because you all did.
I’m like Switzerland, man. And that’s doubly true now because I know it pisses Lars off.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 3, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I don't think people here hate him
he never seemed like a bad guy, just some of his writing was so very wrong. That and the whole Zito thing was more of a joke.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I don’t hate him! I just make fun of him to make other people laugh!
/bully
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
I never hated him. Indifferent I think.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Earring
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Earring or no
Urban’s a helluva lot better informed and articulate than most of the retreads past off as broadcasters.
Don't believe everything you think.
/Grant lobbies Neyer to give Urban a job
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Nov 3, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I will say this about Urban
He was better than Bip Roberts..
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
by DFARowand on Nov 3, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Imma kick you into space
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 3, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
DIRKA DIRRR!
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Remember when Barry wore that dangly cross in one ear and all his haters hated him for it?
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
1 EARRINGS ARE PANSY
2 OMG SACRILEGIOUS
3 Y ONLY 1 EAR??
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
Thank god for Ray Ratto.
http://richliebermanreport.blogspot.com/2011/11/flash-urban-out-at-comcast-sportsnet.html
They, (Comcast), had “personality/content”, differences with him, (Urban). Maybe too much “Inside Zito?”, (among other things). Maybe, we’re still checking. Stay tuned.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
INSIDE ZITO TOO MUCH
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
When CSN thinks your baseball content blows
There really is nowhere else to turn. I guess he can put together Bleacher Report slideshows or something…
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 3, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
haha
I read that as “sideshows” and intend to use such term from those from here on out. Tusen takk!
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
No justice, no peas
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
wow
I accidentally heard his “Ray Ranto Report” or whatever it is on KNBR. Still terrible.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
As nice a guy as he is
could it be that he has a tendency to be really wrong about some things yet post them as fact?
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Yeah – he wasn’t really good at his job. I was surprised he had one that long. Why can’t I get a job I can be incompetent at but still keep?
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
Also
http://www.bayareasportsguy.com/mychael-urban-issues-statement-on-departure-from-csn-bay-area/
"I was informed Wednesday that my option year is not being picked up. Yet another reason to envy Jeremy Affeldt.
I’m proud of having helped http://CSNBayArea.com grow into what it’s become, and I particularly enjoyed learning the TV side, but this is a subjective business, and while I know the majority of people at CSN were pleased with my work, those in power were not."
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
is he still on that “other” radio station?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
His three spots a week there? Yeah, I think that’s all he’s doing now.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
Hopefully they come to the same realization
About every single other one of their tv “personalities” not named Jon Miller, MIke Krukow, Duane Kiper, or Dave Fleming.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Should've specified that I meant baseball personalities
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Didn't Maiocco say that Matt Cain didn't know how to win at some point?
I definitely remember him talking about baseball and saying something stupid and me thinking “Stick to the Niners, Matt”
GROUGTHINK ALERT
MEDIOCRITY!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 3, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
That was Steinmetz
And that was really annoying.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 3, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
If you want to search for anything on SBN your best bet is to go to google and include McCovey Chronicles as one of your search terms. The SBN search function was never great but now it’s just poopy.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
That is one creepy picture.
Some Buffalo Bill stuff right there.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 3, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder how photographers get that halo-y thing around the subject. I see that in a lot of pictures these days.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
No, Jaymee actually shines like that.
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
Especially when she is burying walnuts int he garden.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 3, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that some kind of dirty euphemism or a Breaking Bad reference or to be taken literally?
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
I have completely ignored this individual. I’m pretty sure he’ll be gone before too long, so why even bother?
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
I’m hoping that’s the case.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Raised $1.2 million dollars last week!!
signed,
secretly pleased liberal
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha!
Well, there IS that angle.
Still, it makes me sad that there are that many people who are buying what he’s selling.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I watched CNN for the first time in awhile a couple days ago and they were discussing the sexual harassment scandal.
CNN considers him the front runner, and the polls appear to indicate this. I don’t know how the scandal will affect the future polls and his chances in the race but people should not be dismissive of him.
He has things that Romney doesn’t that make him a potentially superior candidate. The two things that he was lacking, money and organization, are being addressed.
Romney has been flat in the polls because he hasn’t resonated with the base. Herman Cain has been rising in the polls because he has resonated with the base. Romney is not an interesting person, while Herman Cain is.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
With the exception of Reagan, the GOP has a history of nominating safe, uninteresting candidates.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
Yes, but Reagan is who Hermain Cain reminds me of the most. Plus, these are very different times.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, and he isn’t the “flavor of the month” anymore .
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Another thing that Herman Cain is lacking, government experience.
But that’s a positive and a negative. You can say you’re an outsider and not have an embarrassing track record of being unfaithful to conservative values like Romney. On the other hand, people can say you’re not fit to run the country.
Barack Obama was only in the Senate for two terms before becoming president. He was a state senator in Illinois for 8 years. He had no prior managerial experience.
Someone like Ross Perot would have a much better chance of winning in this environment. People really don’t like politicians right now.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Barack Obama’s governmental experience prior to the presidency (12 years) is infinitely greater than this dude’s (0 years).
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
if there's a worse indicator of
preparation to be an effective governmental officer than “managerial experience”, I’m not sure what it is.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
But at least Obama knew
that China wasn’t still trying to develop nuclear weapons!
This guy isn’t very bright nor very good at lying.
Some sort of vignetting app on their iPhones?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I can be your halo halo halo
HALO HALO HALOOO
HALO HALO HALO
HALO HALO HALO OOO
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Nov 3, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay I give you guys props
Jaymee is pretty hot. Nice dress always does it for me. I am like Barney Stinson that way.
Jaymee Sire is so hot, she's honorary Asian
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
is she hot enough to make you want to fap to her underneath your iPad if you sat next to her on a plane?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 3, 2011 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
good for you!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
too bad for him
And yet Bip Roberts somehow remains.
I still miss Urban on the weekend radio gigs. I wish they’d give his TV job to DeRosa but he’s probably headed somewhere better.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
URBSGASM
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 3, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn’t he asking around on Twitter a few days ago for recommendations for blog servers to write his own stuff?
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Nov 3, 2011 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh Snap
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I thought that was quick for a comment but lo an behold:
Mr WordPress November 3, 2011 at 6:27 pm #
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To delete a comment, just log in, and view the posts’ comments, there you will have the option to edit or delete them.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
This was a nod to MCC
I plan to milk them all in putting together a place where you’ll find breaking news — yes, breaking news
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 3, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
What was that crazy story CSN broke last year?
Their reputation was totally smashed with that, Urban was one of the few things good about their web presence.
GIANTS ARE UNHAPPY WITH ZITO'S CONDITIONING!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 3, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
DO A BARREL ROLL
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS
MOON LANDING? BEAR GRYLLS!
by Anonymous1337 on Nov 3, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Moar McRib
The McRib backlash continues. Following the recent revelation that the spongy meat sandwiches contain the same chemicals — errr, ingredients — as yoga mats and shoes, today The Atlantic brings word that the Humane Society has filed a legal complaint against McDonald’s pork supplier…
I like it when the pig can fight back! —Robert Baratheon, first of his name, King of the Andals and the Rhoynar and the First Men
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
SPOILER ALERT FOR ILLITERATE LOSERS
It still amazes me that the “plot” to kill him was basically getting him extra-drunk. Compared to all the other amazing demises in the books, that his was so ordinary. Maybe that was the point.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe his wine was spiked and the hairlippy Lannister kid knew about it.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
WE WILL ENABLE HIM TO DEATH!!!
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Spoilers through I think the third book but maybe the fourth
Balon Greyjoy got pushed off a bridge. That might be more ordinary.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
WELL WHO TOLD HIS ANCESTORS TO BUILD A CASTLE LINKED BY ROPE BRIDGES
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
exactly
that was a dramatic fantasy setting. Drunk in a forest? Not so much.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Out-dichotomize this
To usurp his brother’s throne, taken by Balon in order to claim the Old Ways of Iron Island life, Euron Greyjoy sailed halfway around the world and discovered a horn that allows him to control dragons, then paid some sort of heavy price to hire a member of a secret society of assassins so powerful they can change their very faces to end Balon’s life, just so Euron could return to his home island after years in forced exile and seize the whole of Westeros.
The assassin pushed Balon off a bridge.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
oh come on
two towers, connected by a rope bridge, in the midst of an epic storm? That’s fucking dramatic.
Slipping the king a mickey, but without the mickey? Eh.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but it fit his character so perfectly
Plus, there’s something funny about one of the greatest warriors being killed by a pig. Certainly not a hero’s death.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
I think
it’s the kind of thing GRRM does on purpose, kind of overstating by understating.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Somebody must have spilled some sweet tea in the batter! That stuff is dangerous.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
/holds you down for TL2
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
oh crap
I forgot the safe word…. is it “thank you sir may I have another!”?
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
This is going to hurt me more than it hurts you.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
You’re going to force-feed me sweet tea? MONSTER
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
What kind of asshole didn’t realize those sandwiches were bad for you and probably had some heinous ingredients?
The kind of asshole that would become indignant about the revelation that McD’s is bad for you.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Morgan Spurlock laughs at your comment.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
#McDs
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Spray paint the port of Oakland until Wall Street shuts down!
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't care
still tastes amazing.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
You mean "barbecue sauce"?
So, try it without some of the stuff that makes it taste delicious.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
You and I are going to be excommunicated for not being sufficiently foodie.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
If there is one thing I am totally indiscriminate about
It’s food.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
It’s that it makes a hideous squelching sound when you bite into it. I just can’t get past it. And I love shit like that cheese slime they serve at 7-11.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
That and the fact that it is shaped as though it has bones in it when in fact there is just additional molded “meat”.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Well, they’re not about to give you a McSlab.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
/somewhere in North Jersey a flavor chemist smiles
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
“Never eat anything a chemist has messed with,” says my dad, a retired chemist.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
BICYCLE!
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Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 4, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
They taste bad! I don’t care what they’re made of, they don’t taste good!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
This
McDonald’s is gross. Well, except for the fries. Those are pretty good. But I never eat those either, because when am I gonna go someplace just for fries?
I used to love McNuggets when I was a freshman in high school. The fries too. I had the fries a few months ago and they didn’t seem to be as good as I remembered. The “burgers” are awful. All bun.
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
I kinda still like the McNuggets. I do like the fries but not as much as I used to. BTW, jim, McDonalds did tinker with the recipe. So that maybe the reason
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
OT: Great job
for somebody, not me….
Rock climbing, and computer skills requested…
http://www.frc.edu/humanresources/documents/InstructionalAssistant-ORL1112b.pdf
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
It really does sound like a great job for somebody who can move out into the middle of nowhere and lead classes in mountaineering, snow shoeing, skiing etc. Maybe one of j14’s hiking buddies.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Well, see, that outside usually involves very few people. So it’s kind of like being in a basement.
OMFG I’m going to go cram a leaf blower up somebody’s ass in a minute. The freaking things have been running non-stop since noon……
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
RULE 34
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
j14 just walked right by me on 2nd street. Not so much as a nod. Of course he was walking with an attractive lady (as usual) and deep in conversation, so I can’t blame him too much.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Is j14 the guy who looks like a 12 year old?
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
pretty much, yeah.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
A very mature, outdoorsy 12 year old?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
With a firm handshake. I remember he has a very solid handshake.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
He has excellent snubbing skills as well.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Big-timed!
So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.
Who said he wasn’t cool? He just looks like he grajiated hs last week.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
this place is so confusing
I was wondering why JD was in Florida, the only explanation I could think of for being dissed by jcb9. Who I still confuse all the time with jctgamer. LOL DUMB NABOB IS DUMB
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
exactly.
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
Was his nose up in the air?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 3, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
"Harumph"
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 3, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
/monocle
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 3, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
You probably had locked your bike in a substandard manner.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh wow
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Source: Dan Duquette to interview with #Orioles for GM vacancy tomorrow. #MLB
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Is that the guy from Night Court?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Dude pretty much put the 2004 Red Sox together. Also traded for Pedro Martinez, twice.
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
Yah he got fired 9 years ago
And hasn’t worked in a baseball front office since
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
/Orioles sign Pedro Martinez
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
David Cameron...
Don’t know if this has already been posted…but…
Fangraphs article
Most of the time, I'm dumb. I'm just playing smart.
Wait a minute. I didn’t know this was a David Cameron idea. Fuck him.
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
The "protestors" were just outside the courthouse
with a giant spliff rolled with poster board. They lit it and I think I got a contact high from what snuck under the front door.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
woohoo! effective!
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
I have work left to do today, tho. DON’T GET YOUR THC ON ME, HIPPY!
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Wait, is this the one-year anniversary of the WS parade? Maybe it was a reenactment.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
HOLY SHEEEET
One year ago was the Parade??
DAMN. Baseball God or Rain God or Sun God or Posey must really like the Giants winning the World Series…because today’s SF Weather……
SUCKS (for a parade).
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
NOVEMBER 3, 2010
It was marvelous weather, on top of everything else.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
/throws orange confetti
//sips fernet
///dons sunglasses
////rinse & repeat
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I pushed my way to the front of Sacramento/Montgomery. I saw the whole thing, but at that intersection, it went by way too fast. Buster and Timmy were facing the opposite direction when their cable cars went by.
We were just north of Clay on Montgomery….beautiful day!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Talk about chilly… I went outside and now my nipples can cut glass.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
If they can etch glass, I may have a job for you….
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
No wonder j14 passed you by, probably looked dangerous.
And yes, it must be like 50 outside. WILL THIS WINTER NEVER END?!?!
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Which major league player
should represent that weather?
Dude, I saw this video on the news, it was so weird, like, this guy was videoing the windshield of his truck? Dude. And then it was dry, right? Dude. Then this water JUST APPEARED. From, like, the SKY. dude. It was on the NEWS.
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
THAT will show Wall Street!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 3, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
DKnobler just tweeted article Reyes possibly a Detroit fit
Also mentioned Giants, and how Giants are expected to have 10 mil free and tie most that up in a CF. facepalm If that is true, that Affeldt extension… ridiculous.
Remember: the Giants are banking on their pitching allowing less than 400 runs a year.
They don’t need to improve the offense, just hope that the piece of shit players they put their faith in can have magical seasons of average.
That's 107 wins if they can score 560 runs again!!
Brandon Crawford: Better than overpaying for Jimmy Rollins.
Arg
If you only have 10 mil, give it all to JRoll, and put Nate or Torres in CF and deal with it. We’re F’ed if Coco is our number 1 pickup.
Pretty much
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
The Giants are another team where Reyes would seem to be a perfect fit, but the word in baseball is that at this point, they are unlikely to pursue him (or to pursue free-agent shortstop Jimmy Rollins, either).
The Giants’ budget is tighter than the Tigers’, and their ownership is believed to be less likely to bust that budget. After committing money to keep the pitching staff together for another year, it’s believed that the Giants have just about $10 million to spend for 2012, and that they intend to spend the bulk of it on a center fielder (very possibly Coco Crisp).
Just another indication that we shouldn’t get our hopes up.
Though, I do seem to recall reading about how the Giants FO is known to be very secretive. So maybe “the word in baseball” is just bullshit.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
CRISPIAN ALERT
$10 million to spend for 2012, and that they intend to spend the bulk of it on a center fielder (very possibly Coco Crisp)
So, $9.9M for Cocoa Crispy? Super.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
And Coco Crispian shall ne’er go by
From this day to the beginning of next season
But the Giants will be remembered
This few, this gritty few,
This band of bother.
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
YOU AND YOUR BAND OF BROTHER REFERENCES
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I WAS GOING FOR SHAKESPEARE
Flies spread disease. Keep yours closed.
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
YOU CUT THAT DAMN FENCE AND GET THIS PLATOON ON THE MOVE
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
We’re not lost, Private. We’re in Normandy.
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
Fix bayonets. Go on the red smoke.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
IT"S MY DOG!! SHE"S TAKING MY DOG!!!
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
NIX!
I’m alright, I’m alright. Am I alright?
Yeah, you feel alright?
Yeah, quit looking at me like that!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Also, I’ve memorized all the words to Blood on the Risers.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I bought the whole song sung by the 82nd Division Chorale. It’s hilarious.
A dell? You mean where fairies and gnomes live?
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
Captain Sobel, we salute the rank, not the man.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
What do you think about New Jersey?
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
Q: Why do New Yorkers hate the light at the end of the tunnel?
A: They know it’s New Jersey.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 4, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
YOU WERE STEALING MY DICKIE THE THIRD SCHTICK
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
definitely joke re-purposing.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Meh.
I still think the Giants will re-sign Beltran to save face for the trade last year. They may also pick up Crisp. Wouldn’t be surprised by a SS ‘on the cheap’…and I’m not too worried about what some Knob from NYC hears when he puts his ear to the ground.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I love pitcher's duels and all
But when it is Lincecum vs Kershaw. But every time we play a Henry Sosa or Daniel Hudson or some other wacky third tier starter, being a pitching duel, is ridiculous.
Alex Gonzalez
I don’t know much about this guy. For a glove first guy who’s hit 38 HR total last 2 years, Giants could do worse (if they go cheap on SS)
Nah.
I really like playing against Alex Gonzalez. He’s pretty easy to get out.
Brandon Crawford: Better than overpaying for Jimmy Rollins.
Gonzalez vs. Yunieski
who you got?
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Tough choice
I’d have to go with Gonzalez though. He’s older, but he’s a better fielder (ie he’s not terrible), and he’s only one year removed from a decent year at the plate. Yunie’s never really hit, and if anything the trend is going in the wrong direction.
I agree with you.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with you!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Random Journalist Spills Random hearsay that Nobody Knows For Fact- News at 11
That being said, I can see the Tigers getting them as they have more money to throw around. Also another reason why the Giants won’t is because the Tigers can outbid them
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 3, 2011 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
BOOM
TheBillWalton The Bill Walton Trip
Months after being brutally beaten, SF Giants fan Bryan Stow can finally write his own name which is more than most Dodgers fans can claim
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
BAZINGA
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
Nats re-sign Wang
1 year / 4 M. #50 free agent off the board (K. Law ranking)
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
NO WANG FOR YOU!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve probably mentioned this before, but the LARGE contingent of very happy Taiwanese people taking photos and waving flags at new Yankee Stadium in April ’09 when I saw him pitch was fantastic.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Now they just need to invest in some of those big deodorizing crystals.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Panda mingles with the kids
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=19971851
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
…none survived.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Nov 3, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
and he’ll be hungry again in 15 minutes.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL AZNs
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Nov 3, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it’s more like 6.5
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait did anyone post this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8klvgT8PP4
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Yeah.
The (old, at least) Yankee Stadium grounds crew dances, too.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Nov 3, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
One of the oldest and best Dancing Grounds Crews is our very own Fresno Grizzlies Drag Kings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wCpo4Gcwq0&feature=related
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Both the Grizzlies and River Cats have grounds crews that dance. The Grizzlies’ crew is called “The Drag Kings,” which makes me laugh.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think San Jose even has that many guys in its grounds crew!
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
haha
I think there’s two!
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Shift+A
Problem as I see it, is this all seems just too obvious. For an organization that likes to play it close to the vest, it seems like they’re not so much telegraphing a Coco Crisp signing as putting out a big neon sign and hiring skywriters to display the message for miles around. I’d imagine the next step would be a billboard directly outside the window of the 29 other MLB GMs’ offices.
So I think Grant is right. It clearly looks like the Giants are headed towards signing Coco Crisp. What I think is curious about this is that it looks so damn obvious that I almost feel like someone’s trying to pull a fast one. Could Sabean be using this as some sort of smokescreen? Or maybe Crisp’s agent is really trying to drum up some buzz for his guy? Both? I dunno… it’s very possible I’m overthinking this, but I can’t help it. It’s rosterbation season.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 3, 2011 4:16 PM PDT reply actions
Yea
Lots of misinformation
Beltran says he would consider the Giants, but wants leadoff guy (Reyes actually)
Giants say they want CF\Leadoff hitter (uh anyone not named Coco on that FA list?)
Giants also say will keep pitching together (sign Affeldt and Lopez and chew up 9.25 million)
Giants say they want Beltran back (so Coco is your leadoff man, Beltran)
Giants say they will not go after 20-30 mil player (so no Pujols, Fielder and assuming Reyes)
Giants say they will not increase payroll like last year 20-25% (with about 115 of current 125 assumed alocated, I am reading this as payroll will increase, slightly to moderate, 130-140 and leave 15-25 free for Beltran, Coco and whatever else they desire)
This is how I interpret it all. They could be just joshing us along. The real stance might be 125 mil is the limit, we got pitching and healthy Buster so we will win 4-8 more games than last year and make the playoffs. I hope the Giants at least add the 11-12 mil dead Rowand money to a final payroll of 137 with 125 mil being on the field this year (well if Zito makes 5th starter or pen)
I think
we need to start praying for Agent Ned to get drunk and overpay Crispy.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it sad that at this point im hoping for Furcal
The agent for shortstop Rafael Furcal said he’s told Cardinals general manager John Mozeliak that his client is willing to wait until the Cardinals’ search for a manager is complete before making a final decision on where he’ll play in 2012.
Kinser said he has heard from a half dozen teams since the market opened.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
It’s the same crummy prospects every year (assuming for the moment Reyes and Rollins re-sign with their teams).
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Ticking time bomb
With Furcal and Crisp on the team, the Giants will have the most injury prone lineup in the majors.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 3, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel like everyone left the thread when I got here. I must smell bad or something.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
You just need some of those Mao deodorant crystals.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
I Z’d past that thread pretty quickly, so I’m not totally sure about that reference.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Just a lame meme.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
You mean “may may”?
/pours one out for heimy25
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
HAI
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Nothing. Had a massive document production that went out today, so taking a little break. I was here until 10:30 last night. UGH. How are you?
Also, Coco Crisp: DO NOT WANT
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed on Crisp.
I’m fried. The Occupy folks look like they’re battening down the hatches for the rain.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Yikes. I would not want to be out there for that. I am enjoying your reporting about the protesters, though. Really hilarious.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, and I loved it. So stereotypical — protesters in Santa Cruz. Ha!
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
My brother and cousin went to UCSC at the same time, and I visited a lot. It was a trip.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s beautiful! Lots of good food, too, which is key for me.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I love the Tiki Restaurant near the Nick movie theatre.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
I don’t think I’ve been there.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Crows Nest!
nom nom nom nom
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes!!
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I went to UCSC (Class of 1997!) and just made my first trip to the Crows Nest.
I fail at life.
nom nom nom nom
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 4, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
/walks right by, like j14
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
He is obviously too cool for you.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m used to that sort of thing by now.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, if I saw you, I would run up and give you a big hug! But, he sees you all the time, so maybe it’s not as exciting anymore?
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually only see him once in a while, but the day after TGWTWS I ran into him and he did in fact give me a big hug! Still, if I’m honest I’d have to admit my outrage at the snub is manufactured.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I figured. ;-) Also, I heard that story about the day after TGWTWS. It’s a good one!
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
It's almost getting sad....almost
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
Dejon watson pulled his name out of running for o’s gm. I don’t blame him either. Very qualified. Deserved better.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Maybe they could find an actual Oriole for the job?
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Write them a letter and suggest Sabean. I wouldn’t even ask for any players in return. They can just have him. Him and his tires.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
Ooh, discussion topic:
Who is your dream GM for the Giants?
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll speak for everyone:
Joe Maddon
/end of discussion
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
uh...
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
Kim Ng!
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
OMG
This would be so awesome.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Why?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Pfffft…. breaking the GM glass ceiling would be so unremarkable.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes I just cannot even.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure, it'd be remarkable
I’m not quite sure how to phrase it, but Keith Law (in an online chat) summed up my feelings on the issue quite well:
Jim (Bryan, TX)
With Jed Hoyer (apparently) taking the SD job, why does Kim Ng continue to get passed over for the top spot? Or is it a case of her being a high profile candidate due to her gender that all of her interviews gather more attention than other multiple interviewees?
Klaw
Let me answer that with another question: Why should Kim Ng get a GM job? The qualifications of GM candidates are almost completely unknown to even serious fans. Yes, you’ve heard of certain candidates, because they’re touted by friends in the media. Ng gets even more publicity because of her gender; Ken Ng wouldn’t get half the same press, even if he was precisely as qualified as Kim Ng is. The only GM candidates fans can adequately assess are former GMs, because on the rest, you don’t have enough information. In many cases, I don’t even have enough information.
It would be remarkable. But would she be a good GM? I feel like that question isn’t really discussed when people talk about her.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
What a dick that guy is.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes!
Oh, wait, are you talking about Keith Law?
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Hah
I’ve typed about 15 different comments into this box and none of them came out the way I wanted to, so I’m giving up. Sensitive subject.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Dammit
/puts away popcorn
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
UNPACK UNPACK UNPACK
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Yes, YOU are the bigger person here.
What the fuck ever.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoa, no, no way.
It’s my fault, not yours. Not claiming any high ground at all.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Well, thanks. And, sorry.
/wipes egg off face
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
No need to apologize!
Hard to convey such things in type.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
The dick thing was a total joke, too, btw.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought it was pretty funny.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I did, too! ;-)
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU THOUGHT IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU'RE A DICK
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actual lol
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Basically he’s saying nobody would pay attention to her if she were a man but at the same time nobody knows if she’d be good because she’s a woman not a man? Did I get that right?
I think he’s really saying “Here is my ass. I am talking out it.”
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He’s saying that we have no idea whether she’s qualified or not, but she’s getting more press than similar candidates because she’s a woman.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
No, I think I got it right the first time.
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at the same time nobody knows if she’d be good because she’s a woman not a man
I’m not really seeing where he said this.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Ah. That part was trying to match his rambling.
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But still – talking out his ass is accurate.
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If you leave it unpacked, yes. My unpacked version: he thinks she is unqualified to be a GM, undeserving of the attention she has gotten and that we are unqualified to question him on the matter.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Took me about ten seconds.
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Ah. Doing things quickly guarantees that they are right.
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I’m not sure why Law doesn’t just explain why she’s not qualified. Oh wait, he admits he has no idea if she is or not. So, he really shouldn’t be rendering an opinion.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s saying that we shouldn’t be surprised because none of us know, including him. I don’t see what’s so difficult about that.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
It’s a shitty argument.
A. I don’t know about this person.
B. So, you don’t either.
C. Thus, she’s only getting attention because she’s a woman.
Pathetic.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Let me unpack for you
Ng gets even more publicity because of her gender; Ken Ng wouldn’t get half the same press
This translates roughly to ’she’s unqualified, but I don’t want to come right out and say it’
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
It only translates like that if you want to read it that way
Kim Ng is the only potential future GM that I can name offhand. They tend to be pretty low-profile. Are there other GM candidates with similar qualifications to Ng? I’m sure there are. Have I heard of them? No. The reason seems pretty clear.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
That’s basically my thought process too.
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Even if that is true, it doesn’t mean she’s unqualified.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course not. And for what it’s worth, I don’t think it’s a bad thing that she’s that visible.
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Or, rather, that we should unnecessarily cast doubt on her qualifications.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
BUT SHE IS A WOMAN! DON’T YOU GET IT? THAT’S THE PROBLEM.
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I have also heard good things about her. I’m not suggesting I should be a GM, simply because I am a woman, for fuck’s sake.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s the thing – I have actually heard good evaluations of her work and baseball acumen. She’s been touted as a promising GM candidate for years. For Law to say “You only hear her name because she’s a woman and nobody knows anything else about her” is disingenuous bordering on patronization.
But as a woman, I think it would be badass for a chick to make it to the GM’s office.
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You’re awesome.
But, I knew that.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Nobody is suggesting that. She’s just getting more attention because she’s a woman. I don’t really see what’s so contentious about that.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
That’s just BS that Law is spouting. She’s getting attention because she’s actually considered to be qualified by people that know stuff.
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There are additional implications to what he said. If you don’t get them, I can’t make you. But, by all means, keep patting yourself on the back for being so reasonable.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it's there if you want to look for it
But to read it that way you have to be negatively predisposed toward what he said in the first place.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
LOL
Okay.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
PACK IT BACK UP!
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He’s invoking her qualifications, though, which – his intentions or no – implicitly calls them into doubt.
If he just wanted to say that she’s getting more attention because she’s a woman, he never should only have framed it in those terms.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I would also add that the there’s a difference between saying something that is factually contentious and politically contentious, and there are certainly complex gender politics at play here.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions
No, we’re just being irrational.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
If hokysmksbbqwhathisface were here, he’d drop a “wimmin” comment.
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/pours one out
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he was rite about renteria.
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That’s pretty much what I feel like was just said to me.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
It must be our time of the month.
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Jesus, guys. I think you’re being a little harsh.
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Seriously? Did you see what he said?
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Which comment offended you?
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The whole, “negatively predisposed” comment. I don’t think replying with some humor is that harsh.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions
/shrugs
I don’t think he was being disrespectful toward women with that comment.
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I suppose I was predisposed to negativity with regard to that comment, and was looking for something that isn’t there.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess this subthread proves what ElPerson says below—-that different people are offended by different things.
I am offended by folks who are attacked with broad sexist replies after making, what I think to be, respectful statements.
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I literally can’t see how you thought that was respectful, but I’m sorry you’re offended.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Be offensive and proud!
After all…
kdl gets even more publicity because of her gender
Unlike the fictional “kendl”.
Where? The part where he says that Kim Ng gets more publicity because she’s a woman? That’s indisputable.
The only possibly objectionable part that I can see is the very beginning.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
No, it's because she's Korean. Care to prove yours first?
Where? The part where he says that Kim Ng gets more publicity because she’s a woman? That’s indisputable.
Is she really Korean? I would have guessed Vietnamese from the name.
But, you know, if you’re going to deny the obvious because you think that recognizing it would be sexist, then you’re not willing to have an intellectually honest discussion. I know who Kim Ng is. I didn’t know who Ben Cherington was. That’s not because one is Asian and the other is white.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
She's actually Chinese-American
But I think “deny the obvious” is kind of the point. Clearly, you are assuming that her gender plays into it and I am asking you to prove it.
And no, I imagine you didn’t know Cherington because you don’t follow the Sox. If Sabean went down today, I assume you could think of someone in the org to replace him, and whether hei s qualified.
I was looking for the right words for that
I don’t think I got them. I meant that you have to have a negative opinion of Keith Law to get that interpretation of what he said.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
I like Keith Law, generally. I didn’t like his comment for the content of his comment. Yes, it is possible to genuinely be offended by his comments. I’m not being irrational due to some hatred of Keith Law. I wouldn’t have liked that comment from anyone.
It probably would have been better to actually say that the negative opinion you were referencing was of Keith Law. That comment can be read very differently. I’m glad that’s not what you meant.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
Let me answer that with another question: Why should Kim Ng get a GM job?
Well I would guess that the guy asking thinks she is qualified, or at least could have those qualifications. But by not actually responding, I think the implication is “she isn’t qualified”
The qualifications of GM candidates are almost completely unknown to even serious fans.
Apparently meaning that we (the fans, I’m not sure if Keith Law is included in this group) are almost completely unaware of whether a person is qualified. Which isn’t true actually (for example, we have some general idea from interviews about what she does)
Yes, you’ve heard of certain candidates, because they’re touted by friends in the media.
Which doesn’t actually prevent us from judging their qualifications.
Ng gets even more publicity because of her gender; Ken Ng wouldn’t get half the same press, even if he was precisely as qualified as Kim Ng is.
Oh, man, where to begin. First of all, if Law doesn’t know whether she is qualified, or doesn’t know what would make her qualified, he should say “I don’t know.”
But then, he brings up this analogy that a man wouldn’t receive the same attention. One, what attention? Two, care to prove it, particularly since you just mentioned you don’t know her qualifications? I assume Law knows how much publicity Ken Ng will get from what is known about his qualifications. And three, does it matter? (regarding qualifications) Well it apparently does, because he is bringing it up in context of A. why you have heard of her and B. is she qualified? Of course, by his initial reply, he is assuming that SOMETHING is making her not qualified. But what is it?
The main way I know of Ng, for example, is the “china” comments, which would have just applied to Ken Ng.
All of this is predicated on us not knowing whether she has any qualifications, of course.
The only GM candidates fans can adequately assess are former GMs, because on the rest, you don’t have enough information. In many cases, I don’t even have enough information.
Really? I would have thought it would have been “you can’t assess former GMs, because you don’t have enough information.” By the looks of it, Law has at best no idea if she is qualified, but is merely happy to insinuate that she isn’t and is only receiving publicity because of her gender.
It's because she's korean
Well done.
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Of all the weird things in Law’s statement, I’m not sure why he’s not getting more flack for brushing off the possibility that her qualifications can be judged. That, to me, is one of the purest dismissals in what he said. There’s absolutely no reason that we shouldn’t be able to figure her relative qualifications with just the smallest bit of effort. I talk about it somewhere below here: The fact that we don’t have the application form doesn’t mean that we can’t make pretty educated estimates of the preferred qualifications. And in fact, it wouldn’t take much effort to. That Law is so quick not to even try seems to suggest to me how eager he is to emphasize the wimmins stuff.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I like
that anyone can get worked up about GM qualifications at all regardless of gender. It reminds me of all the lectures about how hard it is to find a CEO that can drive a company into bankruptcy while earning a multimillion dollar salary.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
She is't Korean
Chinese american. I have no idea why I typed that in , but I also didn’t proof it well because I was doing some other stuff.
Yeah, that's fair
I’m sure my frame of reference is different from that of other people. There are things that offend me that aren’t necessarily universally offensive.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
…he never should only have framed it in those terms.
Wow. Drop that never.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, thank you Howie. Much better put.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think anyone here has done that.
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That’s how I read Law’s comments.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I can see someone interpreting Law’s comments that way, but I meant that I don’t think a McCoven has done that.
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Which is what I was trying to point out.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s what I was referring to.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I really don’t think Law meant to be attacking her or anything.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not really sure why this qualifications question is such a sticking point. Sure, we don’t have access to the application form, but we’re intelligent and experienced enough to understand the kinds of things that employers value and require, and we know enough about the responsibilities of a general manager to make some pretty educated guesses. Does she have relevant experience? Has she served with distinction in those roles? Those are just general examples, but the hiring process is usually pretty predictable..
And if sussing it out logically isn’t enough enough, why can’t we look at the qualifications that other GMs came into their positions with?
It doesn’t seem all that difficult.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
DO NOT QUESTION THE LAW
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
She can’t hold a candle to Ned Colletti or that dumbass that traded for Matt Morris, that’s for sure.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt Millen was the GM of a professional sports franchise.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
and
for more than one year, if memory serves.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Seems to me there is plenty of discussion and little conclusion about, for instance, the roles that Dick Tidrow and Bobby Evans play in the Giants organization, and how much credit or blame they deserve relative to Sabean. Is Bobby Evans more or less qualified than the people who are getting hired as GMs? I don’t really know; as fans we have little visibility into the inner workings of the front office.
I’m willing to believe KLaw may have been being a jerk, because he does have a history of that, but I think the general point about qualifications is valid.
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I don’t think he was intentionally being a jerk, but I do think he fell into a lot of careless or thoughtless traps.
As for the question of qualifications, I don’t know why we have to sit back on “buh… iono” just because we’re not in the interview room. No, we don’t know every precious detail. But yes, we certainly can make some relatively educated guesses. These are highly public positions and the applicants have highly public job histories.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 4, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
The job histories are public as far as titles and tenures go, sure. But job performance of an assistant GM is not something that I, at least, feel I have any real visibility into. An assistant GM could be running the show in all but name, or could be the idiot nephew of the owner who gets a VP title to shut him up. How would a fan know the difference?
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I think there are things we can’t really know and things a little common sense can help us with. Kim Ng’s history in the league is impressive in a way that certainly seems to imply a track record of high performance. She’s been getting hired, it seems, consistently “young for her league” her entire career – and not small jobs, either: twice as an assistant GM, and once as the VP of Baseball Operations for the entire league. I don’t really see anything in her history that suggests even a standard quality of performance.
Maybe I’m doing too much extrapolation here. I don’t feel like it, though.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 4, 2011 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
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Let me answer that with another question: Why should Kim Ng get a GM job?Well I would guess that the guy asking thinks she is qualified, or at least could have those qualifications. But by not actually responding, I think the implication is "she isn’t qualified"
It’s a rhetorical question. Law talks like that a lot. I wouldn’t have worded it that way. I can see how that might be offensive.
The qualifications of GM candidates are almost completely unknown to even serious fans.Apparently meaning that we (the fans, I’m not sure if Keith Law is included in this group) are almost completely unaware of whether a person is qualified. Which isn’t true actually (for example, we have some general idea from interviews about what she does)
Having a general idea of what she does is different from knowing whether she’d be good at it. Here’s a list of potential GMs from MLBTR, a source that I think would be able to compile a good list. Kim Ng is one of the people on that list. Can you look at that list and be able to say who would be a good GM and who would be a bad GM? Can anyone without inside knowledge say that? I don’t think so.
Let’s look at the example of Paul DePodesta. Whether he was a good GM or not, his performance was clearly unsatisfactory to the Dodgers’ ownership. Could the serious fan have been able to know that when he was hired based on what he did with the A’s? Of course not. We don’t have that sort of access to information.
Yes, you’ve heard of certain candidates, because they’re touted by friends in the media.Which doesn’t actually prevent us from judging their qualifications.
No, but other factors do. Nobody said that that was the reason.
Ng gets even more publicity because of her gender; Ken Ng wouldn’t get half the same press, even if he was precisely as qualified as Kim Ng is.Oh, man, where to begin. First of all, if Law doesn’t know whether she is qualified, or doesn’t know what would make her qualified, he should say "I don’t know."
He strongly implies that, particularly at the end. If you’re going to unpack his comments to call him a misogynist, it doesn’t seem like much of a stretch to unpack them to say that he doesn’t know whether she’s qualified.
But then, he brings up this analogy that a man wouldn’t receive the same attention. One, what attention?
Fan attention, media attention, and the like. Asking that question is disingenuous. Everyone here knows who Kim Ng is. Look back at the MLBTR list. How many of those people are you familiar with? For me, at least, the answer is less than half. I mentioned Ben Cherington elsewhere. You said that that’s because I’m not a Red Sox fan, but that’s precisely the point. Ng has never been affiliated with the Giants, and yet I know who she is. Kim Ng is higher-profile than the other members of that list. You can debate the reasons, but she clearly does get plenty of attention.
Two, care to prove it, particularly since you just mentioned you don’t know her qualifications? I assume Law knows how much publicity Ken Ng will get from what is known about his qualifications.
Again, as fans we don’t know much at all about any GM candidate (except for former GMs). In place of “Ken Ng”, we can use Shiraz Rehman, Arizona’s Director of Player Personnel. Rehman is on the MLBTR GM candidates page, so he’s not just anyone; Baseball Prospectus has an interview with him. Judging by his name, he’s presumably of non-European descent, just like Ng. Yet few of us have heard of Shiraz Rehman. I only know about him because his name stuck out on that list when I first saw it, and even then I had to look it up to find it now. It’s logical to assume that Kim Ng gets more written about her because she’s a woman.
And three, does it matter? (regarding qualifications) Well it apparently does, because he is bringing it up in context of A. why you have heard of her and B. is she qualified?
The question asks why Ng “continues to get passed over”, which suggests that she’s the best candidate and she isn’t selected despite that. Law is saying that that isn’t necessarily true and that teams might not want her because she’s insufficiently qualified, although we tend not to assume that because we’ve often heard about her. Because her relative fame contributes to the perception of her, that fame and her competence as GM are absolutely related.
Of course, by his initial reply, he is assuming that SOMETHING is making her not qualified. But what is it?
What makes that so obvious? You’re putting a gloss on his words. Nowhere does he assume that. He’s saying that she might not be. There are many GM candidates and few open jobs. If she’s not getting a GM job based on her resume, it doesn’t mean that she’s unqualified. It just means that she’s not the most qualified.
The main way I know of Ng, for example, is the "china" comments, which would have just applied to Ken Ng.
I don’t know what those comments are. I would think that I would have known about them if they had grabbed a lot of attention, but it’s possible that I didn’t notice. Just look at the comments in this thread. When Ng’s name was brought up, breaking a glass ceiling was mentioned. Breaking a color line never was. Kim Ng isn’t noteworthy because she’s Asian.
All of this is predicated on us not knowing whether she has any qualifications, of course.
I certainly can’t judge the relative qualifications of various potential GM candidates. Can you?
The only GM candidates fans can adequately assess are former GMs, because on the rest, you don’t have enough information. In many cases, I don’t even have enough information.Really? I would have thought it would have been "you can’t assess former GMs, because you don’t have enough information."
Why would that be? When we look at someone who used to be a GM, we can use their track record to predict their future performance. Look at Dave Littlefield. He’s a former GM, and so we know that he’s absolutely terrible at it. We didn’t know that when he was hired, because we didn’t have enough information to determine whether he would be good at it. If the Pirates had known, they wouldn’t have hired Dave Littlefield. We know a lot about people who have been GMs but very little about those who haven’t.
By the looks of it, Law has at best no idea if she is qualified,
That’s essentially what he’s saying, yes.
but is merely happy to insinuate that she isn’t and is only receiving publicity because of her gender.
Again, that’s your own interpretation. He never says that she’s unqualified. He never says that she’s only receiving publicity because she’s a woman. He does say that that’s a source of extra publicity; I agree with that, and I’ve talked about it above.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
quoting by paragraph; single sentence refers to entire para
Having a general idea of what she does is different from knowing whether she’d be good at it…. Can you look at that list and be able to say who would be a good GM and who would be a bad GM? Can anyone without inside knowledge say that? I don’t think so.
Some of those look a bit better than the others, yes. There isn’t any contextual support on there but there’s been interviews and such floating around to support drawing at least some conclusions. Certainly they have varying levels of qualifications, which is not what Law is trying to say. In practice, it’s no different from trying to hire a guy to work the cash register. You never have all the information, but that won’t stop an evaluation.
What does PDP have to do with it?
No, but other factors do. Nobody said that that was the reason.
That’s exactly what Law is trying to say. Because he insists on pretending to avoid evaluating Ng’s performance in this little profile. so instead he says to the effect of “Well, you’ve only heard of her because of her friends touting her in the media.” It’s true in the most facile way possible, in that the media provides most of the info, but it’s pretty dismissive.
He strongly implies that, particularly at the end. If you’re going to unpack his comments to call him a misogynist, it doesn’t seem like much of a stretch to unpack them to say that he doesn’t know whether she’s qualified.
I don’t think I called him a misogynist, but his argument is untenable. If he legitimately doesn’t know if she’s qualified, he should probably address what we do know (namely her previous and current employment) rather than a broad appeal to “well, the qualifications could be anything, and you only are paying attention to her because she is a woman.”
Fan attention, media attention, and the like. Asking that question is disingenuous. Everyone here knows who Kim Ng is.
No, I’m serious, I really am not aware of any of this being heaped upon Ng, and I used to (welI thought I did) read the LA Times fairly regularly. Mostly because she was working with Colleti. I think Mike Sciosas Tragic Illness did a profile on her.
On the other hand, since you know so much about her, I think it is fair to say based on this that you think that she isn’t as good as her profile is, and I assume there’s a reason for it.
It’s logical to assume that Kim Ng gets more written about her because she’s a woman.
Or, she does good work that resulted in her being called to MLB, such being the assistant gm of the dodgers. And really – The question originally goes to, is she qualified to be a GM. I think it’s a fair question to ask why someone who was an assistant GM hasn’t been picked to be a GM, the original question seems to be making this assumption. Law first says, well, you don’t know if she’s qualified, then clearly says that if she was a guy, she wouldn’t receive this much publicity – so he does in fact have some idea of her career arc and her qualifications.
Does he actually have a reason to believe would be unqualified (aside from “well we don’t know how qualified she is”) or is he just going to complain about how her being a woman gives her such a higher profile compared to these men?
Law is saying that that isn’t necessarily true and that teams might not want her because she’s insufficiently qualified, although we tend not to assume that because we’ve often heard about her.
Law presents no reason to believe that Ng is unqualified aside from the mere fact she hasn’t been hired. And that if she was a guy, she would not receive all this attention, for whatever that’s worth.
Why would that be?
Because by Law’s logic, we don’t know what is causing GMs to make the decisions they do. For example, who caused the Zito signing to happen? By what we knew for a while, it was Sabean. But it later came out that Magowan may have influenced the signing. Did Sabean really think that Tucker was a better pick than a draft pick that year, or did he have budgetary issues? We do know that it was a terrible signing whatever the case, and evaluating the signing isn’t unreasonable. Nothing stops us from evaluating based on what we know, although we would have to regress their performance.
This is mostly a side issue.
He never says that she’s unqualified. He never says that she’s only receiving publicity because she’s a woman. He does say that that’s a source of extra publicity; I agree with that, and I’ve talked about it above.
He is saying that a man in her place would receive a lot less publicity than her, i.e. she is receiving undeserved praise. Coupled with his refusal to explicitly say she is not qualified, but his willingness to insinuate that she MIGHT be not qualified, because she hasn’t been hired – it is clear that he is at least happy to imply that her work is subpar (in particular regarding the unwarranted attention it receives). But the question is why Law believes this – perhaps she is receiving the same amount of attention a guy would with regards to an assistant GM who handles financial matters in a dysfunctional team and ends up going to MLB. And if she is receiving more publicity than she deserves just cause she’s a woman (as Law says), then that’s s still going to be an evaluation of her accomplishments.
I didn’t reread this one, because I stayed up too late as it is.
It appears that GiantPain started a shit storm.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps unsurprisingly.
As ever, it was not my intent. Sorry.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
It’s been an interesting discussion – no apology necessary!
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How good is Joe Giradi?
It’s probably hard to tell with all the talent(and big ego’s) that he works with, but it seems like he could be one of the better ones.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Who is your dream GM for the Giants?/blockquote>
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
LOL
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Answer: Whoever the Rays have.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean, we can have the Manager survey also, if you want.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Might as well. I’ve seemed to have started it up already.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’d take a helping of the Friedman front office.
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Usual suspects
Friedman, Epstein, Alderson, Beane.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
WTF kind of a rumor is this?
hankschulman
Henry Schulman
Como? Unless you read this in 2016 edition of @mlbtraderumors, i wouldn’t worry RT @HeyyRose: rumor true Bumgarner signed with Yankees?
Toronto wanted Bumgarner for Jose Bautista in 2010.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Bryce Harper says Crawford teaching him stuff
FantasyHardball Ashley Marshall
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@BHarper3407 slugs his fifth homer in six days, says he’s learning from older player like Brandon Crawford: mlb.mlb.com/news/article.j…
The Nationals are all, “NOOOOOOO!”
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
This is funny, because Crawford pretty much called Harper a tool on KNBR the other morning (well, he said Harper has raw tools but has a lot to learn about playing baseball, and refused to comment on Harper himself).
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I am sure Harper is that super powered alpha 19 year old
Looking up to the handsome “been around the block and 10 million girls” Crawford.
So how is Crawford hitting in the AFL? Maybe he’s one their hottest hitters and they’re looking to him for advice.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Might have more to do with the fact that he’s actually spent time in the bigs.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Was it mean to retweet this?
HeyyRose:
<blockquote>hankschulman I don’t know what else to do or another reputable source to ask so is it true that Bumgarner has signed w/the Yankees? Lies?
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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Well that fucked up but I now see that jhaxw pointed it out already.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Nov 3, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
so, how many days til spring training?
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shift+a
Sizemore seems like Sanchez, but with more upside: You know he’s going to have injury issues and there’s always a chance of a devastating one that takes him out for months, but when he’s healthy he’s an incredibly important part of the line up.
Also, why in the fuck does it seem like everyone (outside of most people here) seems to have written off Torres completely? I can understand not wanting him to be the starting CF, but I can think of very few other CF options I’d want to pick up a few starts here and there and, more importantly, be a late game defensive replacement. It seems crazy to me that anyone would want him totally off the team.
The first six innings are overrated.
I don't know
I don’t like him as a starter, but he is perfect 4th or 5th guy. Switch hitter, PRunner, double switch, defensive replacement guy.
I like him as a bench player
just not sure how he’ll perform, considering his condition
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Freddy has been injury prone in recent years but has played well when he’s been healthy. Sizemore has been injured a lot and hasn’t played well at all during that period. He’s a big mystery.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
i dont know about you guys but id be okay with something like this:
Crisp
Sanchez
Posey
Sandoval
Beltran
Huff/Belt
Schierholtz
Furcal
no HUGE contracts, (well beltran, but not too long term), and a ton or sab-ish moves. it looks okay to me though.
He is one of those things.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
The injuries!
Minus that potential factor, I would be fine with it too.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
The more I look at things the more I think we’re going to get Rollins and not Beltran. Basically, there’s little to no chance of Reyes, they need someone at SS a lot more than they need a CF (imo), and Furcal seems to be Renturibejada-ish of a choice. Would they really do that again at this point?
The first six innings are overrated.
Would they really do that again at this point?
THIS TEAM TRADED FOR ORLANDO CABRERA
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My boy has mad hops
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Renturibejada
Heh.
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Anything with Beltran at this point I'd be okay with
Coco- Meh. ould even toss Nate in CF and sign Carrol or Furcal to leadoff
Best case is Beltran + top SS (Reyes or JRoll)
Player's Choice is just as bad as the Gold Gloves
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by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 3, 2011 5:26 PM PDT reply actions
It's like the teen choice awards right?
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
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Effectively .
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by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 3, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Teen Choice Awards = giant surfboard
Kids Choice Awards = orange blimp
Get your under-18 voter-driven awards shows straight!
Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
Kids Choice Awards = slime
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I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, there is slime, but the actual award is an orange blimp.
Also, the mention of slime really makes me miss Figure It Out, Double Dare, and all the classic Nickelodeon game shows.
Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
nickelodeon has really gone to crap.
used to have some good shows.
LINEUP
Rugrats
Doug
Salute Your Shorts
Double Dare
Hey Dude
Pete & Pete
Legends of the Hidden Temple
GUTS (agro krag and Mel!)
Watching an episode of Double Dare 2000, and one of the questions is: “What does BART stand for in San Francisco?” Neither family got it.
You could tell some of the questions were designed so they’d have to do the physical challenges.
Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
I know this is fake
because Freddie Sanchez is not batting 2nd.
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game that seems to have resurrected itself in my absence...
Haha, I wasn’t correcting you, just pointing out how silly it is that they slime people all during the show. :-)
And, yes, slime is so random, but full of childhood memories.
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I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Awards worth getting
1. WS MVP (yea we win the WS)
2. MVP or CY (best year possible)
4. Rookie of Year (cool award for what it is)
The rest…. not sure I care about
I like silver sluggers.
And the batting title too.
You like the silver sluggers?
Have you seen the last few years of those?
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I wasn't really considering batting title as award, more as accomplishment
That is up there
Same with HR crown
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#dbacks agree to terms with C Henry Blanco on one-year contract for 2012 with mutual option for 2013 #HenryBlanco
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
He blew it for the D-Backs.
Athough Gibson put him in.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 3, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
When has a mutual option ever been exercised?
The only time I can think of where it would have made sense was with Podsednik last winter, but he was stupid and declined his half.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
it's the perfect example
of a junk contract clause. “We agree to agree next year, if we both agree to!”
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"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Normally
There’s a financial penalty for turning down the mutual option for at least one side. So it’s not quite so silly as it sounds.
then
it isn’t exactly a mutual option.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
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"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 4, 2011 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow Yosemite is expecting 7 inches of snow tonight.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
The Players Choice Awards seemed to have been awarded last week. I’m surprised none of the winners were leaked to the public.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Anyone else follow @AZ_GIANTS ?
I just started today. Has some nice pics of Giants players in AFL with updates on how they are doing. Panik went 4 for 5 today and turned 2 DPs with Crawdaddy.
Baby Giants update
Panik goes 4-5 today with a 2B in the AFL and ups his average to .295
Crawford is 1-5 with a 2B, batting .310.
Brown still sick with a Virus and shut down for the year
After a horrid start, Panik might end the AFL season with a higher average than Crawford and Brown.
cool. thanks!
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Mayor of Smug.
Breaking:
Mychael Urban’s job to be replaced by Eric Byrnes
Imagine. Lincecum still hitting 99-101 with the gun. Greatest pitcher of modern time??
by Vaccaro on Nov 3, 2011 5:58 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I like Urban so much better.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Bochy had Torres batting 9th today in the MLB-Taiwan series.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Things that would not surprise me:
If the Giants used Torres’ performance in the Taiwan series to determine whether or not to tender him a contract.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Bochy will have Torres batting nowhere in 2011, because Andres won’t even be on the roster past February.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone needs to disabuse Barry Zito of this notion.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Precisely.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Torres batted 348 times in 2011.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Whoops. Was it you who was doing this same thing the other day? 2012.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
.
Giants stole 85 bases last year, Crisp stole 49 last year. I think he can help us.
Matt Cain, Tim Lincecum, and Madison Bumgarner,
L2WIN.
FFFFFFFfff...
Wait, THAT was the problem last year?!
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I seriously lol’ed.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, can't you see? Crisp is the savior.
Matt Cain, Tim Lincecum, and Madison Bumgarner,
L2WIN.
FFFFFFFfff...
Not enough situational hitting, advancing the runners when they were on base, sac flies, etc
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Ah, ok
The problems with the Giants was
Not enough luck
Not bunting enough
Making the wrong kinds of outs!
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
BUT WHAT IF HE WAS.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Look, there was bunting in the WS, and we won. Just saying.
(The bunting lining the stands that is. Not Huff.)
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I’m going to go out on a limb and say that it was almost ok because it was so unexpected.
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Crisp would be the run half of so many hit and runs for the Giants. So many.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Crisp would be the runthrown out half of so many hit and runs strike em out throw em out double plays for the Giants. So many.
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I’m really scared that Darren Ford will be on the roster all year next year.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Darren Ford has talent. He can..um…he can..well..OK. I got nothing.
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We’ll have plenty to judge him on after next year.
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you're doing it wrong
he will be swinging and missing, and Pablo or Whiteside will be thrown out. THATS HOW THEY DO
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by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I just don’t know how he’d be on base without Bochy wanting to make him run.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
admit that i am clueless
but is the off season always this rumor filled? I think everyone except zito has been traded four times.
musical chairs makes more sense and you would probably get better results
Isn't it amazing?
Just wait until the winter meetings. I SAW GOODY REYES DANCING WITH THE DEVIL.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Flying cars?
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Marvelverse!
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
The script so far is better than Thor!
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, natto and I liked it. Snappy. Retro.
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
Why would they need to give him penicillin right before making his immune system invincible?
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Germs. Bad germs.
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
His torso is more normal now.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Still kind of ridiculous.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
The love story is canned to high heaven, but it’s a small enough part of the movie.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Red Skull reminds me of Voldemort.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
So, he just goes Poof?
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
A Dodgers’ game?
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, it’s Stan Lee.
I wonder if he’ll show up in The Avengers.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Schulman, WTF?
Said the Giants have little interest in Reyes, because they think the Mets are going to match any offer. Mets have almost no chance of re-signing Reyes. They’re cutting 40 million off of payroll, and people close to Reyes are saying he doesn’t even want to sign with them because they’re not a contender. Is Schulman off the wall, or are the Giants?
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
I’m pretty sure the Giants are just making shit up to justify not having a good team.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Sorry, we can't fix anything
We bought these magic beans, see.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
What pisses me off is that this offseason is so fucking easy
There are clear needs and there are players on the market who clearly fit those needs. Sign Beltran and sign Reyes and you’ve got yourself a good offseason. How do you fuck that up?
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
See: $9.25 million to Affeldt/Lopez
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Of course, if the Giants say “Yes. We’re interested”, it drives up the price even more. Teams will try and fuck with other teams.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I don’t think the Giants are capable of those sorts of mind games.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Sabean, no but I think some below him are pretty smart.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
True
Judging from the Giants’ track record, though, the only smart guys they have are scouts and Dave Righetti.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Someone tell Dick Tidrow's mustache that they need Reyes.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
This is true
I will say this:
Do I expect the Giants to sign Jose Reyes? No.
If the Giants did expect to sign Jose Reyes, do I think they’d be saying anything different than they are in public right now? Also no.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I don’t know how it moved from “don’t want to up the payroll” to “don’t want to have a good team.”
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
If you have $20 million to spend and you blow it on Jeremy Affeldt, Javier Lopez, and Coco Crisp, you’re not even trying.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
There’s a distinction between them doing things differently than you would like, or not spending as much money as you think they can and having and actual business plan that is, “have a crappy team.”
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I know it’s not Major League. Nobody’s trying to actively sabotage this team. They’re just incompetent, not malicious. I was being hyperbolic.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
It’s hard to tell around here.
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
They have a good team right now, but they have a chance to have a special team. That’s what’s so frustrating.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
Let me clear this up right now.
I am not disputing that they are fucking shit up.
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
And . . . /thread
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The nuance, it gets lost.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
No! I was just trying to imply that this was the best part of the thread and there would be nothing better.
Dammit – my nuance was lost.
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No!
Mine got lost!
I was explaining that I had to make that statement because the nuance (just because I say they aren’t actively trying to field a shit team doesn’t mean I think they’re doing a good job) got lost. I understood what you meant! I wasn’t referring to your comment.
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Let’s hug it out.
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Torres cheated the game.
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As soon as ball four occurred, Sabean picked up the phone and called Crisp’s agent.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
Maybe they’re afraid that if they sign Beltran and Reyes, they’ll win the division by twenty games. Then they’ll be no pennant race and they won’t sell out. Gotta keep it close.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
Whoo Mexican-American War daily double win!
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It's not really him.
They don’t put the name on the back of the home jersey.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
That’s a girl, isn’t it.
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No, it’s a boy.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
are you sure?
does timmy pitch in socks?
by orange velvet on Nov 3, 2011 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
z
i want moar foooood
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
I haven’t had dinner yet. I’m gonna heat up a cheese pupusa or something.
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Pupusas are so damn delicious
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I picked up a pack at Whole Foods, but the best ones in the South Bay are at Costa del Sol, a Salvadoran joint.
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I wish I lived closer to civilization sometimes.
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It's a sort of cheese turnover
Masa dough, filled with cheese and sometimes other stuff, fried. Popular in Central America. Pretty tasty.
i’m jonesing for a fried egg over easy on some toast.
But I feel like I’ve eaten too much cholesterol this week.
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Omit the yolk?
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don't forget the gravy
you loco moco you.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Torres just made an awesome catch, but the camera was so busy filming Granderson that Torres barely got in the frame.
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It’s the feed from the Taiwan TV.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Taiwaneast Coast Bias.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
Sorry, I realize that that sounded like “OMG EAST COAST BIAS,” but I was just laughing at the bad camera work. Also, Granderson probably could have caught it, but Torres flew in and made a sliding catch.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
EASTERN WORLD BIAS
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Fuck you, this is the line I was trying to think of.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
So, this is incredibly mean but also really funny
The kids at the end of the video are adorable. Link.
Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
However, prosecutors never charged Fodor despite an Oct. 13 Seattle court appearance where he publicly unmasked his real identity while wearing his familiar charcoal and yellow protective suit. The case is still being reviewed, prosecutors say.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
HI PABLO
KFP48 KFP48
I just wake up to say hi to my friends
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Then say hi!
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
HI
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
WTF Sharks?
Holy Crap.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
The Big East is so bad
Air Force
Boise State
Central Florida
Cincinnati
Connecticut
Houston
Louisville
Navy
Rutgers
South Florida
Southern Methodist
Why would this conference deserve an automatic BCS bid? Most of those teams are awful.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
the Big Least
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
Flags Fly Forever
"Orlando before Zod" doesn't have the same nice ring to it.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 3, 2011 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously. Also, what the fuck are they going to name it?
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Torres walks for a second time on a pitch at the knees.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
my guess is that the problem with Torres is worse than they're letting on.
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
Flags Fly Forever
"Orlando before Zod" doesn't have the same nice ring to it.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 3, 2011 8:03 PM PDT reply actions
What problem is that?
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I can’t quite decipher your tone with these.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Me neither.
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He doesn’t think it’s a problem, but I’m pretty sure he thinks that Giants think it’s a problem.
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Or, it would seem that he’s parroting me when he says it, but I’m not sure if it’s a good parrot or a bad one.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Iago
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Where does this come from anyway?
Ross and Rowand struck out a ton, Torres struck out a ton; heck, whiteside did too. I think they are merely conservative (vis a vis proven hitters) of who is going to bounce back…
I don’t know how people can counter the k-rate argument with 2010 Torres with a straight face. The implied strawman is that I’m calling the Giants psychotic. They’re not psychotic. They’re just stupid. They’re perfectly willing to ignore K’s when it comes to an All Star level bat. The k-rate question isn’t absolute. They realize they have to grin and bear it when a guy is OPSing .800+.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
And I say “people” because it seems like whenever I make this argument, somebody brings up Torres in 2010.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I don’t think it’s on K rate, just that they make some pretty broad assumptions about past performance
I can maybe see sideline arguments for lots of other players… Burrell had his foot… Whiteside was clanking… Torres wasn’t sleeping… Belt was… something… Ross was… uh… slumping?
Burrell’s is the only one that seems clearly legitimate. Torres was benched at one point for Rowand, who was performing at inferior levels, and at another time for Christian, who was performing at inferior levels. Belt was clearly outperforming Huff all season, but only Pill could push Aubrey off the bag?
Also, and I think this is pretty compelling: Emmanuel Burriss got 61% of his plate appearances (92 of them) in the two hole. He batted second 600% more than he did any other spot in the lineup. He batted seventh 16 times – and that was the closest one.
And he was awarded those at bats while OPSing near or under .500.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I should add: Only Keppinger, Stewart, and Tejada struck out less often than Burriss (and Cabrera came close).
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
This season, Rowand got most of his at bats when there weren’t other options, and then when there were he was sent packing with multiple years of sunk cost ahead of us. When was the last time you saw the Giants drop that kind of money so eagerly? Roberts is the only name that comes to mind, and they only owed him 6.5 million for one year. Ross got some leash for the World Series, but was constantly yo-yo’d in and out of the lineup. He, too, got some good “no-other-options” at bats.
Whiteside, also, lost his job, I would point out. To Chris Stewart.
If you look at the Giants’ roster for 2011, and weed out the places where their hands were forced (whether by excellent play or injury), there is a pretty clear correlation between K-rate and play distribution. If only xanthan would graph it….
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
If only xanthan would graph it…
Someone has to turn the computer on first.
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The hard part would be isolating the at bats where their hands were forced, such as literally having no other choices but Rowand in center for a while.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I like to think Whiteside’s losing his job was totally deserved though, on catcher D. And Rowand was apparently complaining or something, based on what Baggs’ said. And they played a lot of Burrell too, last year, in spite of all the Ks.
I mean are you thinking of exactly? Torres, Belt,…? Torres wasn’t healthy for quite a bit due to the achilles/heel injury but still managed quite a few PAs and Belt … well Belt was a fiasco, but I don’t think it’s because of the K rate – due to crowding and reliance on vets
It’s the whole roster. It explains so much about the Burriss faith, the Tejada signing, the Cabrera trade, (and the insistence on playing both over Fontenot), the Belt demotions, the decision to play Christian over Torres in meaningful games at the end of the year, Brett Pill, the Rowand release…
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean Manny they didn’t seem to have any other choices; who else would they have gotten? And in the end the best they could do was Kepp. Tejada makes some sense if they think he is going to hit anywhere resembling career norms. Pill was replacing Huff at 1B since the outfield was a wreck and needed bodies, all the more so after the late Ross injury.
Cabrera and Christian though. Yikes. I kind of admit that I didn’t think they thought they were in it for a while in the end though (thus the Belt/Crawford)
They could quite literally have played anybody instead of Emmanuel Burriss and received better production. For a long time, wasn’t his OPS the same as his BA?
And even if they felt forced to play Burriss, they absolutely never had to bat him second, which he did a frightening majority of the time he played.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, he hadn’t taken a walk, so it was BA=OBP (and all singles, so BA=SLG). Who else were they going to play though? Wasn’t that the time when Fontenot was out?
The org also had Crawford bat second at one point, and have Torres (and, hell, Rowand) bat first in spite of the Ks. I don’t think they value lineup construction.
Crawford had a pretty good K-rate, I should say.
Not as good as Cabrera, though, which is why we traded for and played Cabrera over Crawford when Brandon was clearly the superior choice between the two.
And… again… Fontenot – the best option of the three by far – was third in that race all year long. He also had the worst K-rate of the three by far.
What I should probably do is explain myself a tiny bit better. I don’t think the Giants look at a spreadsheet with K% on it and go, “Hmmm…”. I do think they play guys a lot based on how they look, though. And K’s are the worst looking thing that can happen to an at bat. A strikeout is like dropping a fly ball. It’s not really a significant error – but it looks super shitty. They are also, probably, the easiest thing in the whole game to form a confirmation bias about. I really think Bochy just hates watching strikeouts, and I think he’s effected rather significantly by confirmation bias..
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
AFFECTED
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
You didn't call a Chinese-American woman, Korean
You’re still one up on me
Anyway that seems reasonable enough. Your explanation, not the strategy of playing whoever looks good, I mean.
I think they also use RBIs to evaluate players
Hence we get Pill and Guillen.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Nah, your point is an excellent one. I think I’ve mentioned that before.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Ah, cool.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
BUSTER
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=19972831&topic_id=&c_id=sf&tcid=vpp_copy_19972831&v=3
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oh yes he does.
Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.
He’s close to being able to play in a game!!!!!
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
… i’m sorry, i just went to a special place in my mind. It’s near the corner of his jaw.
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He keeps calling it “San Fran,” though.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
In general I don’t agree that that is a particularly egregious moniker.
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I mean, I’m rock n roll n disco.
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Won't you save me San Francisco
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That is true.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I just call it “The City.”
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Because we’re cool.
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The coolest.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
When someone says Frisco, I say “You mean that town in Texas?”.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
That is the correct answer.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless they are in the Hell’s Angels and have ‘Frisco’ on their back. It’s best to just let that lie.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
A few years ago, I saw a couple of Hell’s Angels at Pac Bell Park. I made sure I didn’t come close to bumping into them. They were walking on the lower level close to the middle. I walked close to the wall.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Oh hey, it’s going to be within spitting distance of freezing at night here for the next few days.
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40˚ and rainy here…. hopefully the rain will keep the smokers indoors, or the rain will knock the smoke out of the air, or something.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
People have way too much time on their hands.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugh.
After I posted that, I was like, “Hm. That was perhaps not the best choice of words.” Sorry!
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m slightly jealous, to be honest. (Except for the fact that, in your situation, I would be homeless.)
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeremy Affeldt is on with Eric Byrnes. I hope no one here is listening to it.
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I’m watching the Sharks poop their pants.
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
:(
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I realized what bugs me about Byrnes as a vocal personality. It’s that he does the vocal equivalent of tumbling after a throw. It sounds like he’s going 110% just to make his voice work. It hurts my esophagus listening to him.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
That, mixed with the weird Jim-Rome-dramatic-pause-and-over-the-top-enunciation thing, makes him totally unbearable.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
And also, his opinons change from moment to moment. It’s like he talks himself from one side to the other while he babbles.
He’s not terribly interesting. I liked F.P. better. And did you know that he also played professional ball?
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Wait, what? He played professional ball?
I definitely took F.P. for granted, which is a crazy thing to be saying.
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah. I’m getting the kids ready for bed. One is getting her storytime from Dad, the other is watching Fairly OddParents. After they’re safely tucked in, we’ll probably catch up on P&R and such.
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Sounds like a very cozy evening!
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by kdl on Nov 3, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Sharks coach should have put them all on time out for the entire intermission.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
i just saw Jeff Passan say that Carlos Beltran sucked in SF
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
He was selfish.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Turrible
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Totally out of sync with the rest of the offense.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really related
Apparently Beltran liked his time here. I don’t know why he would. The home fans were booing him at times. I have no idea why that was, but it disgusted me.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
He didn't hit 1.000/1.000/4.000
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
because
SF.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2011 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
The glory of small sample sizes and also bad pitching
Panik is now hitting 295 in the AFL
I like Crisp
I won’t like the contract.
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." - Actress Tallulah Bankhead (1962)
I love Pill
Won’t get the playing time.
/pillaphilia
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." - Actress Tallulah Bankhead (1962)
Eh too much "Phil"
I don’t like it.
Imagine. Lincecum still hitting 99-101 with the gun. Greatest pitcher of modern time??
by Vaccaro on Nov 3, 2011 10:51 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
RIP Mateo Alou
After the Giants traded him he averaged 196 hits for the next six years and immediately won the batting championship after the Giants traded him to Pittsburgh for Joe Gibbon and Ozzie Virgil!! He along with his brothers Jesus and Felipe(!) played in the same outfield on September 15th 1963 making this the only time three brothers played in the same game at the same time. Also the Alou bros. hold the record for most hits by three brothers outhitting the DiMaggios by 200 hits!!
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." - Actress Tallulah Bankhead (1962)
I’M MAKING PASSIONATE STATEMENTS ABOUT EMMANUEL BURRISS HERE!
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Emmanuel Burriss < Tim Tebow.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I went there, apparently. It feels kind of dirty.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Nov 3, 2011 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Excellent job on those.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 3, 2011 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Back from Idaho
Between waking up at 3:30 to watch the game, and day trip to customer site, I’m fucking exhausted.
So I bought a dozen Krispy Kreams o.O
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Do schools in Taiwan teach English? Just wondering.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
starting 7th grade I think.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I was wondering if any of the Taiwan players spoke English.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
THIS THREAD HAS BEEN UNPACKED.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 4, 2011 10:07 AM PDT reply actions
Sorry about that. I just felt like badmouthing Keith Law…
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 4, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Sizemore, IMO.
Crisp=Torres, as Grant so rightly points out. If we really, really have to spend on a CFer, I would like it to be SIzemore, who at least has the ability to be a star, and has been a superstar in the past.
The injury risk is big, but without it, the Giants can’t afford him. If we’re going to spend, it may as well be on a high-risk/high-upside move.
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