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What We've Been Reduced To

Willie Bloomquist was almost the starting shortstop for the Giants.

It's November 10th. The offseason has been officially going on for a couple of weeks. Giants fans were worried that the team wasn't going to spend money on free agents. That's not entirely true. They'll spend money, but it's going to be spent using the guidelines from the Brower-Eyre-Herges-Hermanson-Tomko-Feliz-Snow-Hammonds-Mohr-Tucker Doctrine of '02. Spread the money around to average-or-worse players, and hope they come together like Voltron at exactly the right time.

When Bill Neukom was deposed, the article on the move was chilling:

Star-divide

Neukom, it is said, believed that this was his money to spend as he saw fit -- and he did so, increasing payroll and buying new technology for the baseball department, among other expenditures. Instead, the Executive Committee wanted the money to be put in a "rainy-day fund" for use in leaner times.

Couldn't be more clear. Back then, it was a story based on unnamed sources, so we could just hope it was wrong. Now its an offseason strategy. The Giants aren't going cheap, exactly. They aren't slashing payroll, trading away Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain to get prospects, which is what several teams would have to do. I think that's important to remember. They aren't the '98 Marlins.

They aren't the '12 Marlins either, though. The Giants will spend just enough to put veterans on the field, even if those veterans are dinged up and from the Dollar Tree, where Sabean keeps leaving $10 bills as tips in the take-a-penny/leave-a-penny dish. That's the story of the offseason. I don't have an interest in going pirate radio on this. Just a post every couple of weeks will do for the rage quota. So it's time to start looking at how to improve the team under this rainy-day-fund paradigm, in which players will still be signed, but they won't be those players.

Okay. Let's turn chicken poop into chicken salad. Well, maybe not that good. Chicken poop into Chicken McNuggets? Well, maybe not that bad. Let's just look at this pragmatically, then. The Giants want a shortstop. And with good reason -- Brandon Crawford was terrible offensively last year. Terrible. He hit .204/.288/.296, which is worse than Neifi Perez's career line with the Giants. Crawford could get better one day. I'd rather not find out if he can do it next year.

So I'm glad the Giants are on the same page. And as much as I hate to admit it, I'd rather have Bloomquist starting 70% of the games at short than Crawford. Not on a ridiculous two-year deal that eats up some of the remaining budget, but all things being equal, Bloomquist is the better hitter right now. That's how little I want Crawford in the lineup without a full season of AAA numbers to evaluate.

But Bloomquist isn't good. He's not good enough with the glove to tolerate the bat -- think Orlando Cabrera, but not quite as abysmal. Even for a desperate team that isn't willing to spend more than a few million, the Giants can do better. I've seen posts that lump Bloomquist in with Clint Barmes and Yuni Betancourt. That's not fair to Barmes.

In this new world, where a beaten and cynical fan accepts that his team is going to do the same old crap, I'm a huge Clint Barmes fan. Huge. He's the prize of the offseason, if this is how the offseason is going to go. Barmes:

  • Can actually field at a really high level, unlike Bloomquist or Yuni
  • Has at least one offensive skill at a position where the Giants didn't have any last season

That one offensive skill is power, and Barmes is usually good for a dozen homers or so. Over the last four years, he's hit .253/.307/.413, good for an OPS+ of 85. If my math is correct, the Giants would have won 134 games last year if they had that production from Miguel Tejada. And whenever Barmes is at short for a full season, he puts up gaudy UZR numbers. If that's not your thing, the scouts love him too. The scouts loved Tejada's defense too, but only in the same way that we all love the Vernon Wells trade.

Baggs has encouraging news, then:

Giants are looking for a SS as a fallback to Brandon Crawford. I can tell you Clint Barmes has some big fans on the Giants coaching staff.

Encouraging in that Barmes is so, so much better than Yuniesky Betancourt. Barmes is a complementary player to Crawford, too, so if the Giants want to keep both on the roster, there would be an easy way to split the at-bats. For a normal manager, I mean. Bochy would obviously start Barmes every game. Which, considering the alternatives, isn't necessarily a bad idea.

Is it sad that this is what the Giants have been reduced to? Of course. They need a shortstop, and there's a 28-year-old star on the market, just waiting for a rich team to overpay him. I'd love for the Giants to be that team.  But they're not. So considering the items in the bargain bin -- which aren't really bargains -- I choo- choo- choose Clint Barmes.

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by jctGamer on Nov 10, 2011 11:31 AM PST reply actions  

Sixteen six six six like the Pentagon.

by wcw on Nov 10, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Nine! nine! nine! like the crazy guy.

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by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Gimme Carroll.

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 11:33 AM PST reply actions  

His age freaks me out.

So, so old. Ker-pooooof oh no his bones are dust poooooooof.

by Grant Brisbee on Nov 10, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

His eyes freak me out.

But yeah, his age should definitely be a concern to anyone who’s interested in giving him a shot

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by IanRogue on Nov 10, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

His injury history is non-existent, isn't it?

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Gotta start somewhere. Who wants to be holding the bag when the music stops?

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by IanRogue on Nov 10, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not saying he wouldn’t be good. I’m just saying that age should be a factor to consider when looking at acquiring him. a .350 OBP would be stellar, unless it’s only for April and May, and then something happens. I can’t predict who will or won’t get injured over a season

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by IanRogue on Nov 10, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, age is a factor

But I’m guessing Barmes and Carroll will cost a similar amount of money. If that’s the case, gimme Carroll.

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by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd like 38 year old Carroll if we needed a 2B

Not for SS. No one in his entire career has thought of him as a first option at SS, so it would be weird if we did when he was 38.

I’d prefer Barmes, who is younger and a much better defender.

That said, Carroll is a much better idea than Bloomquist.

by hammystyle on Nov 10, 2011 12:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

All the defensive metrics rank Carroll as a decent SS defender

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

In limited outings, at a younger age than 38

It’s just kind of wishful thinking to start a guy at SS when he’s hardly done that throughout his career.

by hammystyle on Nov 10, 2011 2:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

/Carroll breaks hip

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by 49er16 on Nov 10, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

/49er16 breaks bad

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I picture this as your next album.

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by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

OOooooooh Carrrrrrolllllllllll

It’s just a sign away, it’s just a sign away

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Warn the children

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by hairball on Nov 10, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

5 years ago.

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by bigboneded on Nov 10, 2011 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Are you sure

Jamey Carroll 2006: 92 wRC+

Jamey Carroll 2011: 104 wRC+

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by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes. I am sure I would rather have his 2006-2011 production than his 2012-2017 production.

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by bigboneded on Nov 10, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Then I have good news

There is no one suggesting we give Carroll a 5-year deal.

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by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Here is the point ->

Here is you →

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by bigboneded on Nov 10, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s like less than half an inch away.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Nov 10, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Like Goofus, he’s a grower.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Less than half an inch doesn’t make a difference.

by City Girl on Nov 10, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

In radius?

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by otis29 on Nov 10, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

ouch

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Jamey Carroll is so old...

…he sometimes gets confused and yells “Get off my lawn!” as he runs on to the field

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Jamey Carroll is a very whelming meh. Having watched him for two years now, he’s incredibly frustrating at the plate, and plays just-good-enough defense at just-enough spots on the infield.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

and you figure Doomquist signed for 2/3.8, which is what Carroll signed for before 2010, so you figure he’ll get paid more than that this time around. Base for Carroll is probably 2/6, with something like 2/8-10 not being out of the question depending if someone really wants him to be a starter.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Which would be fine

He’s a lot better than Bloomquist.

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by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

2/6? I'm in

Starts this year and cheap enough to be a utility next year if we upgrade

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Best of luck to him. He and Affeldt can cry together next year.

He’s good for what he is, but his role is something you hope to fill with your 26 year old AAA washouts, not someone you give prime bench money to.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

OBP

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

you can only hit 180 foot fly balls on a regular basis for so long before the magic dust runs out. And Carroll about to turn to dust. Like I said, best of luck to him, but I don’t think he’s to be counted on.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

You guys should listen to the dodger fan.

by shankbone on Nov 10, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Giants 26 AAA washouts are stupendously useless.

by Every6thDay on Nov 10, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s not true, Cody Ross was awesome and he was a 26 year old AAA washout of some scrub franchise :)

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't hope for my 26 year old AAA washouts to post OBPs with the best players in the league.

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by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

hitting 8th, where he either got pitched around to get to the pitcher or pitched to to get to the pitcher (epending on opponent’s strategy). Hit him 2nd where you’d epect that OBP to play and it’ll disappear.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting observation

Except that in 2011, Carroll’s OBP was actually higher hitting 1st or 2nd in the order than it was hitting in the 8th slot.

On his career, sure, his OBP is higher batting 8th. Anyone’s would be. But his OBP everywhere else is still .340+

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Rock on, Jamey Gamer.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d give him 1 year/$4 million if it means only having him for one season. Even though two year contracts aren’t a killer, he’ll be 40 and there’s a good chance he falls off a cliff this year anyway.

by Every6thDay on Nov 10, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess McDonald and Bloomquist both signed for similar deals. Both being two year deals. Would imagine that’d be an easy contract get for him, but the dollars get tricky.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

What makes him frustrating at the plate? All the not making outs?

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe the lack of power?

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s really just roundballs that get through and slap singles that land in front of the RF. He’s the not going to steal any bas, so while getting on base and turning over the lineup is valuable, he’s stuck there.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless, you know, someone hitting behind him gets a hit

Which is kinda the whole point.

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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Lead what?

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know but I’m following

by Mrbasepaul on Nov 10, 2011 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

His followers are growings.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Nov 10, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Is now a good time to point out it's been only three weeks since the end of the season?

And that most things don’t happen to the GM meetings anyways. Or that most FA’s sit on their butts for awhile waiting to see whose offering what? And that the chances of Cabrera being the only offseason acquisition is probably slim?

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 10, 2011 11:35 AM PST reply actions  

It’s just we have to save our outrage for when things really start happening lest we’re too burnt out in January when the Pirates sign Reyes for $5 million a year and a lifetime supply of Honey Nut Cheerio

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 10, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Slim, yes. But the chances of any of the other offseason signings being good? That’s an entirely different question, altogether

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by IanRogue on Nov 10, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s an entirely different question.

by taliesin on Nov 10, 2011 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Michael Tucker.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Nov 10, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Dammit Grant

We were having an amazing conversation about food in the last thread. What is wrong with you?!

Oh wait, this is still a baseball blog, isn’t it?

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by Prussian Creole on Nov 10, 2011 11:37 AM PST reply actions  

I miss Waffle House already.

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by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Thankfully, I’ve missed it too.

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Nice tires on that car, there. Sure would be a shame if something happened to ’em.

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by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Sabes?

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

If Sabes had switchblade shoes, then yes.

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s on my bucket list to get me a pair of those. I probably wouldn’t ever use them (probably) but I still want ’em.

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by Prussian Creole on Nov 10, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

There really are switchblade shoes. Just not these kind.

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by nvsfg on Nov 10, 2011 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

/rec'd

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by jhiat00 on Nov 10, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Trust me when I say this. Do not eat the chili hash browns at the Waffle House.

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by 49er16 on Nov 10, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve had chili-cheese hashbrowns at Waffle House. I liked them.

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by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

You didn’t get sick immediately after eating that? I did at the Waffle House in Louisville.

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by 49er16 on Nov 10, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

The food item that you puke up may or may not be the one that caused the intestinal distress.

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t puke it up

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by 49er16 on Nov 10, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh my.

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Same goes for the other end, too, though.

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by rotorueter on Nov 10, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

No. I’ve never had a GI problem with Waffle House. But obviously, that could vary with location.

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by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Well I hope it was the location.

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by 49er16 on Nov 10, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t trust anything that comes out of Louisville. Except Bob Edwards.

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by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

What about baseball bats?

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by 49er16 on Nov 10, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe. Just maybe.

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by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the horses that come out of Louisville.

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by 49er16 on Nov 10, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Or the sluggers

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Ew Waffle House

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by ResDog on Nov 10, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I won’t even dignify this with a playful threat. I’m just angry.

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by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

You should write a speech.

“It was LaRoche-Foucault who said: …”

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve never had a good meal at the Waffle House. Maybe the 6th time will be the charm?

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by ResDog on Nov 10, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

You’d think they would have good waffles.

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by ResDog on Nov 10, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly. Just because something is excessively greasy doesn’t automatically make it good.

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by jhiat00 on Nov 10, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s not about this restaurant?

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by troymccluresf on Nov 10, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Ooooo, way to draw it all together. Well done. :)

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by Prussian Creole on Nov 10, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Is there really a Walnut Creek Magazine?!

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by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Any place with an Apple Store and a Williams-Sonoma must have its own magazine.

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I kind of miss getting the WS employee discount.

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Which subthread? Where’d you get the gumbo from? What color was it?

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by Prussian Creole on Nov 10, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

/giggles

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by rotorueter on Nov 10, 2011 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

the Zooey one

There’s a Creole food truck that parks near my office once a week. Pretty killer po’boys.

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Where is this truck? I must go.

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by Andy from DC on Nov 10, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

well, if you're in Seattle

Follow WhereYaAtMatt on twitter for the schedule

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by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 10, 2011 11:50 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I make awesome gumbo. Brick red. Done right.

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by bigboneded on Nov 10, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Interesting

As far as I’m concerned, the very bet gumbos always come from a dark brown roux but that doesn’t mean I haven’t have some great gumbos from red or green rouxs.

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by Prussian Creole on Nov 10, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was that seafood gumbos are on the lighter side, where like a duck or chicken and sausage gumbo would be on the darker side.

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Sausage and chicken will always add a little to the color, but I’d say 85-90% of it is the roux. If you start with say, a hazelnut roux, the end result will always be lighter and the flavor will always be more subdued. People of Northern Lousiana Creole heritage (like me) tend to go with browner rouxs (although there are plenty of exception to the rule) while Southerners tend to go lighter or hang more towards a green color. I just firmly believe that the longer you let your roux cook (i.e. the darker it gets) the better it’ll be. I think us Northern’s get it best.

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by Prussian Creole on Nov 10, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I do chicken and andouille and make it dark so you get that unctuous, roasty flavor coating the back of your tongue. GAWD I LOVE IT (my favorite food).

Also: the darker the roux, the thinner the stew.

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by bigboneded on Nov 10, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, as you let the roux cook longer, the flavors get deeper, but the thickening power is reduced.
I have heard that the more delicate flavors of seafood do better with a less aggressively browned sauce, which might help explain the North/South thing (assuming seafood is more common on the Gulf Coast), but it’s all hearsay in my case.
I suppose this is where, in the interest of full disclosure, I have to confess that I am not a fan of green peppers and so have generally avoided creole cooking due to the presence of The Trinity (I do realize this is a personal failing on my part and not an indictment of creole cooking in general).

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

MCC’s phalanx of layers immediately look up at the mention of “indictment.”

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by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

in the interest of full disclosure, I have to confess that I am not a fan of green peppers and so have generally avoided creole cooking due to the presence of The Trinity

As I am not a fan either, I will generally substitute New Mexico Green Chiles or Serrano’s. They work well and allow me to cook Red Beans and Rice, and Gumbo without bell peppers.

Both are fine choices to avoid the overly sweet disaster that is Green Bell Peppers. Serrano’s give the added bonus of heating up the dish a little as well. Just don’t include the seeds or the ribs. That would warm it up a bit too much.

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by nvsfg on Nov 10, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I personally don’t like green peppers either, which is why I dice them hella tiny and put them in anything early so as to cook them down so you don’t get little bites of green pepper. As to thickening, it’s not a problem I encounter because you simply use more flour as you cook the roux and later the pot if needed. It works wonderfully.

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by Prussian Creole on Nov 10, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Why use a green pepper when there's so many perfectly good yellow, red and orange peppers out there?

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by otis29 on Nov 10, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Because that’s not in the Holy Trinity

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by Prussian Creole on Nov 10, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

IS it true that file will help with the thickening?

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

A little, but if you use too much everything’s just gonna end up tasting like okra

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by Prussian Creole on Nov 10, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

We’re suppose to talk baseball here?

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by 49er16 on Nov 10, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Hell yeah.

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by jhiat00 on Nov 10, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

But but

An aioli is a garlic mayonnaise.

by sforza on Nov 10, 2011 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I have a bad feeling about this.

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by bigboneded on Nov 10, 2011 11:40 AM PST reply actions  

Also
I don’t have an interest in going pirate radio on this.

And rightly so. Mostly because you have a knack for keeping things in perspective. Best to leave flying off the handle to mooks like me.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 10, 2011 11:40 AM PST reply actions  

I’ve gone 12 days without tweeting something positive!

by Every6thDay on Nov 10, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

/high-5

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by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 10, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Ew.

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by Prussian Creole on Nov 10, 2011 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

(A ‘my spoon is too big’ reference)

by wcw on Nov 10, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

No that's me.

Yellow on the outside, white on the inside.

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought the usual term is Twinkie.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

No, that’s me.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

hee

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Both are used.

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by Natto on Nov 10, 2011 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we should differentiate

Bananas are the ones that go bad
Twinkies endure forever

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

You know what’s interesting? I learned years ago that Twinkies actually have a fairly short shelf life — the whole “they’re indestructible” thing is an urban myth.

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by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

ZOMBIELAND LIED TO ME

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by Natto on Nov 10, 2011 8:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

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by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

For some reason, I confused you with El Person for a sec and thought “I believe that”

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by Prussian Creole on Nov 10, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

heh

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

they've really done something special

they’ve managed to go from WS championship to my least-favorite, favorite team in like 1 year. I still love the Giants, but I’ll be damned if the cheapskates in charge are getting any more of my discretionary income after this BS.

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by Smoke on the Water on Nov 10, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

You should try being a Dodger fan. Our owner doesn’t skimp on expenses, he just spends it on himself instead of the team.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

not your owner anymore! /that’s what the dognapper said

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

honestly, I think you guys are in better shape right now

You’re going to get a new owner and he’s going to have to spend to win back fans. You’ve got tremendous young talent in Kemp and Kershaw.

Giants are unfortunately going to be stuck with the bozos in charge indefinitely. Shiny waterfront stadium, WS championship, paying just enough to make people think you’re competitive without actually being competitive… In a weird way, I’d rather see my team bottom out (a la 49ers, Stanford) than be trapped in a perpetual cycle of mediocrity (Giants, Warriors).

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by Smoke on the Water on Nov 10, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

perpetual cycle of mediocrity

Well hey now, there was a championship. It’s more like, you had a sudden peak, and then you’re back on the flat track.

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Good god… I just miss Neukom so much. In 20 years, the legend of bowtie is going to be one we’re passing on to children and grandchildren, isn’t it? The one time the Giants were run by someone competent for a couple of years and he won a world series, then was fired because he forgot to ask whether he could spend profits on improving the team.

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by Smoke on the Water on Nov 10, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

He tried to pay himself an awful lot. I would have fired him, too.

by wcw on Nov 10, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

BOOM.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 10, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

You say this until you actually bottom out. Bottoming out is never fun, and the hope of competition is always re enjoyable and more entertaining than having to suffer through multiple seasons of rebuilding.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I have bottomed out with my other teams though

so I know exactly what I’m asking for. As painful as it is at the time, sometimes it’s the only way to get better.

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by Smoke on the Water on Nov 10, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

for instance

I’m much happier with the complete meltdown of Walt Harris at Stanford than I was with the slow, death spiral of Buddy Teevens. Harris royally screwing everything up is what convinced the people in charge that the university’s priorities had to change if they didn’t want to be an NCAA afterthought in football.

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by Smoke on the Water on Nov 10, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

At least if they bottom out, you can divert your attention. I’ve always watched most 49ers games because there are so few and because there’s not much else to do on Sundays, but this is the first time I’ve been emotionally invested in them in almost a decade. I’ve never in my lifetime been emotionally invested in the Warriors.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Not having football down here to distract kind of sucks.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

You’ll always have one pro football team in Los Angeles.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Also sucks being a UCLA fan.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

It's not all bad

UCLA can still be the Pac-12 South’s sacrificial lamb this year!

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Would love to see them win out, but I’m assured by all the USC people (TBLA’s own Eric Stephen among them) that UCLA winning out is impossible since they still have to play USC.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

It must be so weird to root for the bad guys.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

UCLA beat Cal, it’s been a successful season. That said, Neuheisel needs to get out of town.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL CAL

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by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 10, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

::sobs::

Why Tedford. Why?!

by WhatsAMataHari on Nov 10, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Why must you inflict Maynard on us?

by WhatsAMataHari on Nov 10, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Just don’t fuck up our park!

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by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

USC beat Cal’s hockey team 19-2. The next day, they rested all their good players, so they only won 13-2.

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by mymclife on Nov 10, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Why do you torment me so?

by WhatsAMataHari on Nov 10, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Remember, I was raised a Stanford fan as well.

But really, USC gets a bad rap.

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by mymclife on Nov 10, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

The penalties that USC got were totally unfair, but I’m okay with that because it’s USC.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

If they were consistent with their penalties to Miami, Auburn, and the OSU, I’d be fine with the USC penalties. But they weren’t, so now I feel like a Red Wings/Canucks fan and join in with the USC fans who say the NCAA is out to get USC.

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by mymclife on Nov 10, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

On the other hand, we would have to be Dodgers fans then.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I would prefer not to.

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Yuniesky is our destiny

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by Zetsuboushita on Nov 10, 2011 11:44 AM PST reply actions  

I’m hoping for Gonzalez by chance!

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Nov 10, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Deskiny

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Yunieskiny.

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep

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by 49er16 on Nov 10, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

He is our density.

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by jhiat00 on Nov 10, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

He is my density

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by otis29 on Nov 10, 2011 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

...and I'll form, THE HEAD!!

hope they come together like Voltron at exactly the right time.

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by bigboneded on Nov 10, 2011 11:45 AM PST reply actions  

Posey will be the penis.

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by bigboneded on Nov 10, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

ARE YOU CALLING HIM A DICK

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m picturing Posey’s sunny weather face at the end of a giant robot dick. I’m not sure I should have admitted that to people though.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Nov 10, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s probably best that I’m at work and unable to photoshop this.

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

God Emperor of Baseball

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

On topic

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

The aji must flow.

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

How did that ever get published with that cover art? That’s so clearly a testicle-less penis it’s not even funny.

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by Prussian Creole on Nov 10, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

The testicles are buried in the sand.

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I dreamt Pujols came to Giants for cheap

then woke up
realized it was a dream
threw a tantrum

by spacedout on Nov 10, 2011 11:48 AM PST reply actions  

it means

you’ll miss the runway completely.

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Nov 10, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Yet, somehow, you’ll walk away.

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Nov 10, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Typical Alabama deadbeats, declaring Chapter 9 like they always do….

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by Alex_Lewis on Nov 10, 2011 11:48 AM PST reply actions  

It’s a terrible story, one that’s been unfolding for years. Jefferson County was the center of our little universe as I was growing up, because it was the population center. Everything was there. I covered it as a reporter in Alabama, and now I’m watching it as an outside observer.

My colleagues at Birmingham’s public radio station WBHM have done an outstanding job of covering the collapse.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

WBHM is teh awesome.

Jefferson County is still the center of my little universe. I grew up here, moved away for college and then work, and eventually found my way back. I work at the university and live in the Glen Iris neighborhood. This mess got started when I was in grad school in Tuscaloosa, more than 20 years ago.

by Grievous Angel 312 on Nov 10, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you kidding me? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Welcome, welcome, my fellow Alabamian. We have a lounge I don’t tell the others about. Oh, this is marvelous, indeed.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was a porch?

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by speckops on Nov 10, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

…and then there were two.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Your end is near, Calirfornia.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, come on. How come I can’t spell today?

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

If only.

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by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

On life

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by speckops on Nov 10, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorkinize this

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by speckops on Nov 10, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

This needs to be an app

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by speckops on Nov 10, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I would buy one of those fancy phones just to download it.

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by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

My new favorite verb.

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by SituationalLefty on Nov 10, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's the sample scene (I could not morph this to fit a spelling mistake, alas)

DONNA
Okay. Well, I’m Donna Moss and this is my boss.

JOSH
Josh Lyman.

TOBY
Toby Ziegler.

DONNA
Anyway, we’re very crunched for time and we think that you…

TOBY
I work at the White House.

FRIEND 2
Wow, humongous whoop.

JOSH
Come on. He’s Communications Diretor. It’s a decent-sized whoop.

FRIEND 1
How many unborn babies did you guys kill today?

JOSH
Whoa, hey, danger, Will Robison. Tyler, no fooling around. We’ve got 15
minutes to get
to a plane that is 3 miles from here. That plane— I swear to God— is taking
off at 1:00.

TYLER
It’s taking off a 1:00?

JOSH
Yes it is.

KIKI
Are you guys stupid or something? It’s 1:45 right now.

JOSH
It’s 12:45.

KIKI
No, not here it’s not.

DONNA
Oh, my God, she’s right.

TYLER
See, we crossed over from Unionville to Dearborn County which doesn’t observe
Dalight Saving Time.

KIKI
I think it’s the other way around, genius.

TYLER
What did I ever do to you?

DONNA
It says on the schedule, “All times are local.” This is why I couldn’t get
anyone on their cell.

JOSH
Wait. Wait. No. No. You’re not… We changed time zones? We changed time… We
changed time zones?!

TYLER
It’s a-a common mistake.

JOSH
Not for the U.S. government!

TOBY
What kind of schmuck-ass system could this possibly…

JOSH
That’s good! That’s perfect!

TOBY
How did…? I don’t understand.

JOSH
Perfect. Just the break I’m looking for.

TOBY
What do…? What do…? People, they just… They reset their watches when
they commute?

JOSH
I can’t take working here.

TOBY
They just change their watches every time they cross a time zone? What is
this, a joke?!

JOSH
Serving my country.

DONNA
Okay, this is a whole new thing now. My guys are going to need to walk this
off a bit before
they can regroup. Kiki, you and your friends get back to school. Tyler,
you and I are going
to come up with a plan to get us to a commercial airport.

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Apparently there’s some asteroid that could possibly hit the Pacific in 2036, sell your beach front property now!!!

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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Paradox

Before I read this post, I was thinking about how Barmes would indeed be a good fit.

Then I read the article and wondered: did I come to this conclusion solely because Barmes matches our needs, or because I’ve been reading McC since 2004.

/scratches head

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by Andy from DC on Nov 10, 2011 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

When Grant wants our opinion, he’ll give it to us.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

HIVE MIND, ACTIVATE

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

.

Fundraising Thermometer

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by jhiat00 on Nov 10, 2011 11:55 AM PST reply actions  

Really?

I’m supposed to be happy with Clint Barmes?

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by DFARowand on Nov 10, 2011 11:59 AM PST reply actions  

Remember, no Reyes.

Lopez for 4.5 million, yes. Affeldt for 5, yes. Cabrera for 4, yes. Another 4 for Barmes? Certainly sounds like something they’d do.

That’s 17.5 million next year. But no Reyes. Screw you for asking.

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

if they re-sign Beltran

I will forgive them for a lot of this other cheap crap. But I’m not getting good vibes there.

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by Smoke on the Water on Nov 10, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Where does it say we’re going to get Barmes or that’s the plan? It’s just more idle speculation

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 10, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair I am also propelloring so it’s not exactly idle.

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by jhiat00 on Nov 10, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

the motorboat?

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Nov 10, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s all idle speculation. This one starts with the rather reasonable premise that the Giants won’t spend any money on big free agents. If you accept that premise and look for who is desirable if Rollins and Reyes are not on the table, that’s where Barmes comes in.

If you disagree with the premise, you don’t need to go mucking about with whatever the conclusion might be.

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Nov 10, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree there’s a whiff of sense to it but in the past two weeks the Giants have “signed” all sorts of players, causing all sense of vapors, and none of them happened. The one thing that did happen was something nobody expected. And again, nobody really knows what’s going on or if they’re thinking about Beltran and that it’s still way too early too assume the 2012 lineup is locked in and have already locked up 3rd place.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 10, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I don’t know who’s assuming that. I figured it was mostly a thought experiment. IF the Giants are going cheap, THEN [baseball player] would be a good option. It’s all speculation, and we still have to wait and see. I think it’s reasonable to want the Giants to spend on a good but pricey player (and I think they should), and I think it is reasonable to expect them not to (because they’ve given plenty of hints that they won’t).

I’m willing to wait and see, though. It’s not like I really have a choice.

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Nov 10, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that’s kind of what I was saying or thinking or what have you. I just like trying to keep away from the ledge

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 10, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

We just offered Willie Bloomquist a multiyear multimillion dollar deal

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by DFARowand on Nov 10, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

…and survived to make another shitty offer.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

What’s going to really hurt is when some other team signs some much better player for $4 million or less either because they waited and let the market play out or because they are much better at selling their team as a free agent destination.

by Every6thDay on Nov 10, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

JJ Hardy is looking pretty damn good right now.

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Nov 10, 2011 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

He looked damn good at the time

But Sabean threw up his hands and said. Fuck it, I’m going with Miguel Tejada.

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by DFARowand on Nov 10, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Given how quickly the Giants signed Tejada, I’d say he was their target all along.

by Every6thDay on Nov 10, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be surprised if he never even discussed a trade for Hardy.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Nov 10, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

In a word, no. If we traded for Hardy then we wouldn’t have been able to get Tejada and Cabrera – obviously not being able to field a team that makes you want to stab your eyes out and pour whiskey in the wounds.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Nov 10, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

This is obviously hyperbole as I wouldn't waste whiskey in such a way.

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by jhiat00 on Nov 10, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Vodka, though…

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by free f.p. #14 on Nov 10, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah that's fine.

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by jhiat00 on Nov 10, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

The Giants needed his informations about San Diego.

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]

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by can of corn on Nov 10, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I subscribe to the theory that it would have cost the Giants more than what it cost the Orioles but even then he would probably have been worth it.

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Nov 10, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

Maybe if we trade those pieces a) we’re still good enough where we dont have to trade for Beltran or b) Sabes feels our system is too shallow to trade Wheeler

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by DFARowand on Nov 10, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

c) We don’t have to suffer through Tejada/Cabrera

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by jhiat00 on Nov 10, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Who?

Ssory Doc, I'm on the Twitters
Craig James killed five hookers who were prostitutes before death.

by 49er16 on Nov 10, 2011 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

The more I think about it, the more certain I am Craford won't be starting

Sabean doesn’t trust rookies, and I don’t necessarily mean that as an insult to him. Not every rookie is Buster, and Sabean knows that, so he has a long history of not just handing a position to a rookie. There’s always a back up plan, always someone who can take over if things don’t go well, some sort of training wheels. Buster had Molina, Bumgarner had Wellemeyer, Belt had Huff, and that’s just in the last few years. Those were all better prospects than Crawford too, so there’s no way there won’t be some kind of plan B, even if it’s Fontenot.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Nov 10, 2011 12:09 PM PST reply actions  

Bocock was never "Plan A"

He only got called up because Omar got hurt

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

He shouldn’t have been Plan B either.

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by jhiat00 on Nov 10, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

His name is "Brian Bocock". What plan letter did you expect?

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

N?

Not an option?

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by jhiat00 on Nov 10, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

But his name isn’t Nrian Nocock, lucky for him.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Nov 10, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't have the link.

But someone tweeted the Giants are actually looking for a back up SS. So I think there plan is to start Crawford and sign someone who’s actually worse than Crawford.

Brandon Crawford: Better than overpaying for Jimmy Rollins.

by Azmanz on Nov 10, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Baggs talked about it.

The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Why? We have Burriss.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

The “worse than Crawford” talent pool is large. 2 down, 12 to go, Sabes.

by Bar None on Nov 10, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

And there plan was to let Bumgarner be the 5th starter, and Nate was going to be a starting OF, no wait, Bowker, no, Nate. We’re starting a youth movement!

It’s always the plan; it’s never the reality.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Nov 10, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Shortstop is not in my top 3 list of worries. Crawford will be fine. Let’s worry about LF, and RF, who will replace Zito in June when he’s in the middle of a 6-game losing streak.

"He has maybe one of the best arms I've ever seen; he could be playing by the concession stand and he's not out of position." - Andy Skeels, talking about 3B Chris Dominguez.

by Lyle on Nov 10, 2011 12:14 PM PST reply actions  

LF is Belt, although he’ll probably be platooned with somebody else… just because

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 10, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Belt-Cabrera-Schierholtz

Sandoval-Crawmes-Burriss-Huff

Posey

is a young team, at least.

by Every6thDay on Nov 10, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

What in Crawford's professional history gives u hope that "he will be fine"

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by DFARowand on Nov 10, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

He's dreamy?

"If you can’t make a profit, you should sell your team." - Michael Jordan (Owner, Charlotte Bobcats)

by otis29 on Nov 10, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

If by “fine” you mean “better than Orlando Cabrera”, then yes, he will be fine.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

This is not what I thought it was. Boo.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

That made me laugh a few times.

WHY IS MELKY

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Nov 10, 2011 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Cain’s grin is creepier than Mike Tyson’s. Imagine that.

by non sequitur on Nov 10, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

WHO IS THIS GUY I WANT MATT

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s my stance, too.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

MATT CAIN 2020

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

If for no other reason that to see him in a suit. Daaaaaammmmmmn.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder where he stands on a default by Italy.

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

BLOG: CAIN PICKS UP HIGH-PROFILE ENDORSEMENT

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I want to vote for him for all the offices.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Cain Linked To Man Advocating Reckless Spending on Infrastructure and Development

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Infrastructure and Development? Sabean?

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

Is that Murph right behind Bochy ? Check out that look.

I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.

by nvsfg on Nov 10, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

SOON

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Casilla knows about Barack dating his sister

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss Bow Tie guy.

by Turf_Toe_ on Nov 10, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

You know what Funny or Die? This is a go-kill-yourself moment. The irony that they would use a convicted rapist and alleged wife-abuser to satirize a guy who is alleged to have grouped half a dozen women is apparently completely lost on them.

The San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
I'M A GIRL

by Prussian Creole on Nov 10, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Regarding Funny or Die, mostly I just wish they would do one or the other of those things.

2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s typecasting.

Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster

by SituationalLefty on Nov 10, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel

That after the other big teams sign up all the big names, the Giants will be picking through the discount racks with the other non-spenders

There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.

by Giant_in_la_area on Nov 10, 2011 12:32 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

If Orlando Cabrera is starting again next year I am going to throw myself down the stairs.

by wcw on Nov 10, 2011 12:33 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Do you love it? I got it for Ross.

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

This made me laugh.

There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.

by Giant_in_la_area on Nov 10, 2011 1:01 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

You know what’s nice? Watching YouTube videos of Bumgarner. They warm my heart on this chilly November day.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 12:34 PM PST reply actions  

Timmy is good too (young Timmy).

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

He looks so much better with short hair.

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Nov 10, 2011 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Mid-length is good for him, circa late 2009 or shortly after that haircut in 2010.

As of the end of 2011 he looked like Fabio with no cheekbones.

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the way that first piece was produced. Great stuff.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

It really is.

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Nov 10, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

The last five minutes of the video though are really rather under-produced.

by non sequitur on Nov 10, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I was charmed by the nihilist tones, but after a while it seemed pedantic.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

F———————-a————————-d————————-e t———————————-o b——————-l———————a————————c—————————k

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Twice as nice. But the song does suck.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Nov 10, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

OTP

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

OTP? I am doing horribly with acronyms today.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Nov 10, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

One True Pairing
Original Transgressive Pairing (more limited use)

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Awwww….

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Nov 10, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Often in internet fandom, an OTP in the first sense is an OTP in the second

Like Buster/MadBum.

Or Jack/David in Newsies.

Of course, the original slash duo, for whom the term was invented, is an OTP in both senses: Kirk/Spock.

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

One-trick pony, maybe. What’s the link?

by wcw on Nov 10, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

J got it. It’s “one true pairing.” The ultimate pairing.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Hubby says he had a dream last night that for my birthday I got to get hit in the face with a pie by Brian Wilson, then I got to go home with him. Hubby & Kruk then went to have a drink at the Public House.

Why don’t’ I have dreams like this?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Nov 10, 2011 12:35 PM PST reply actions  

This may be an apt point to bring up my brother, briefly in town, going to the opening of a women’s boutique in town and running into Mr. Wilson. They chatted a bit, and bonded as my brother said he felt a little weird going to the opening of a women’s boutique, and having Mr. W. finish his thought, “..then I realized: I’m going to the opening of a women’s boutique !”

by wcw on Nov 10, 2011 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Shopping at Victoria Secret for SF Giants hipster undies?

by City Girl on Nov 10, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe my brother witnessed more women hitting on one man during their brief chat than he had ever seen before.

by wcw on Nov 10, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Your husband dreamed that he casually shared a beer with Kruk while you went home with Brian Wilson?

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Nov 10, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Nov 10, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Tell your husband to go back to sleep and finish the dream.

by City Girl on Nov 10, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather finish the dream myself.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Nov 10, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Or my husband finishes the dream while we’re both awake.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Nov 10, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

oh my!

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Hubby is a redhead.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Nov 10, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

/faints

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Blanche? Blanche! Wake up!

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

We should have an MCC Moonlight Madness party.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Kiss a fool
Help a holy man
Reveal betrayal of a loved one

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

You know what this means.

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Mad Dirty
"I saw it coming," Sanchez said. "It’s been that way since I got to the big leagues in 2006 that they wanted to trade me. Nothing came out but, every year, it was the same thing. It was time for me to go to a different place and another team. My name kept coming up every trading deadline. It never happened. It did now."

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by DFARowand on Nov 10, 2011 12:49 PM PST reply actions  

BLOATED

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair

Every word of that is true.

I’m sure he’ll tell his agent that he’ll take a salary discount in exchange for a no-trade clause as soon as he’s an FA.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s fiery!

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

That's what I would do.

Brandon Crawford: Better than overpaying for Jimmy Rollins.

by Azmanz on Nov 10, 2011 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I think after he criticized the front office, walked the tenth hitter in one inning, and then slacked off during rehab should give one a pretty good indication that they’ll be traded too

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 10, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish him the best of luck

And honestly, it might just take a completely new environment and a new staff for him to get his mechanics together. And maybe a low pressure team in KC will do him good.

I’ll root for him except when he’s playing against us.

by djfivenine on Nov 10, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

And maybe a low pressure team in KC will do him good.

Weather map!

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I only regret that I have but one rec to give to this map.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll help

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Nov 10, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Good luck to him

I would probably be pissed if I were him.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I haz a sad

Better days…

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .

Job 1:14-15

by bigboneded on Nov 10, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I can see Sanchez’ bad attitude in that picture!

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]

I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"

by can of corn on Nov 10, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

“Soon…”

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Thought bubble: “Ever throw a no hitter? I didn’t THINK so!”

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 10, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

PALE TWINKY TWERP

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

“Ha! His eyebrows are not nearly as nice as mine”

by WhatsAMataHari on Nov 10, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

“I revile him and his long lustrous hair.”

/panda_timmy_jealoussanchez.jpg

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Soon I will be the ace of my own team! Bwahahaha

Oh, wait. Does it have to be Kansas City? Really?

by WhatsAMataHari on Nov 10, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

SOON

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

He looks jealous of Timmy

The San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
I'M A GIRL

by Prussian Creole on Nov 10, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

/sigh

It’s nothing new that I like him. Hopefully he won’t be playing on tenterhooks in KC. Better luck to him.

Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian

I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.

by Ceora on Nov 10, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, he's bitter now

wait until he has to pitch for that horrible KC offense

Wait, wut?

[Poorly Wrought THING] is what Brian Sabean would have made if he were a [THING-maker] instead of a MLB GM

by zenbitz on Nov 10, 2011 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

lololol
"Tim Lincecum is so white that when he goes to Daly City he disappears"

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:51 PM PST reply actions  

Why is Daly City so foggy? Because of all the rice cookers.

by City Girl on Nov 10, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

My immigration lawyer: "I live in Daly City."

Me: “But you’re not Filipino!”

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

racial insensitivity

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Nov 10, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Have fun freaking out over shortstops, nerbs.

I won’t be around much for the next week or two. Too much actual work at work. Happy dreams of [your favorite Giant or CJ Wilson here] to you all!

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Nov 10, 2011 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

I’m miss you.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Changing your user name?

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll not sure how I messed that up.

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by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m mr. Gamer

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by jctGamer on Nov 10, 2011 1:06 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

LOL Missing Barry

“Too much OT! Change to suit me!”

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

When did this happen?

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Referencing a conversation between MB and jponry I think early in 2010.

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

From Fangraphs:

At $4 million, Barajas is currently the highest paid player on the (Pirates’) roster.

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by D4P on Nov 10, 2011 12:56 PM PST reply actions  

Yikes.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

This kind of stuff happens all the time though with teams like that

I remember reading last year than Orlando Hudson was the first FA signed to a multi-year deal by the Padres in like 10 years or some insane number.

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by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

lol giants offer to bloomquist

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course, you could also look at it as one of the reasons why the Pirates haven’t been competitive since 1991

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 10, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

We should just keep taking their players.

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

and that’s another reason why they haven’t been competitive since ’91

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 10, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

having lunch in another cafe right now

I feel like I’m cheating on my waitress

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by jctGamer on Nov 10, 2011 12:56 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

The Giants aren't unwilling to spend money.

The Giants are unwilling to spend money on good players.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

No, I still want Jimmy Rollins.

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by ResDog on Nov 10, 2011 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

I still think that could be the big FA of the offseason, actually. Probably should work something up on that.

by Grant Brisbee on Nov 10, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m thinking it all leads to Rollins or Cuddyer and maybe another 4th outfielder Fontenot type too.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 10, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Ties & such.

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by ResDog on Nov 10, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

If Nate is our starting right fielder next year, Timmy and Matt are leaving and I wouldn’t blame them.

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Nov 10, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait, I thought we liked Nate? I’m confused now

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 10, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Too ripped, not enough hair, hole in his swing

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

You should talk about how he grew up really really close! I don’t think people know.

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by say hey nation on Nov 10, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm "working something up as" we speak

who wants to see?

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

You promised us a "Month Of Rollins"

And now we’ve just had a day of Barmes.

Must you be so unrelentingly disappointing?

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by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s his subtle mockery of the Giants’ front office. Next he’ll claim this blog brought in more revenue than ever, but he has to save the money in case the servers go down.

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by Ott on Nov 10, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Age is overrated

There are lots of good middle infielders like Rollins who had a solid run through their 30’s. It’s his athleticism that sets him apart.

by hammystyle on Nov 10, 2011 2:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

His .329 career OBP

would have been 2nd among Giants who played in 100+ games last season.

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by D4P on Nov 10, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Rollins frightens me for some reason

It’s not entirely rational, and it might be Rowand PTSD related, but my gut does not want.

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by marcello on Nov 10, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I just realized that Beltran is totally Ellis Burks

Has this been noted?

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

Na, Burks wasn’t SELFISH

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

And he was a Giant for longer than two months

by jhawx on Nov 10, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

although with all the time he missed with injuries, it felt like he only played for two months

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 10, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Both RFs with 900+ OPS with SF

Mid 30s, bad knees, question mark whether Giants will re-sign.

Biggest difference is that Beltran is a switch hitter

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Crazy Crab was

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

True story

Sean Connery was at a Giants game and asked the Crazy Crab to throw him a ball. When he wouldn’t, Connery said “Don’t be so shellfish.”

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I tried not to, but every time I read that, I read it in Sean Connery’s voice.

by S. Pickford #25 on Nov 10, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I read it in Professor Farnsworth’s voice.

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by Natto on Nov 10, 2011 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Kind of saw him as David Justice.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

This whole situation fucking sucks.

This team can afford top tier free agents.

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by scout6 on Nov 10, 2011 1:21 PM PST reply actions  

I’ve brought this up before, but how do we really know they can afford top free agents? Especially when they’re paying off some of the other top free agents they signed?

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 10, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

"How do we really know."

I’m tempted to search your screen name and that quote.

by Every6thDay on Nov 10, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Alas, it wasn't as fruitful as I hoped.

Given what we do know, there is evidence to suggest that the Giants could afford or stand to do a lot of the things you dismiss using the “how do we really know?” defense.

by Every6thDay on Nov 10, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

If they can't, they should be able to

They’re selling out and Giants merchandise is everywhere. Teams like that are the teams that get top free agents.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

what is capacity of AT&T?

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t recall the exact number offhand, but it’s something like 42,000. It’s not that big, but it’s not tiny.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

3rd in Attendance in 2011

http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

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by DFARowand on Nov 10, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Note that the two teams above the Giants have much larger stadiums.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Note that their average was still 3rd highest

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by DFARowand on Nov 10, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

It isn't even just attendance

It is their cable deal, merchandising, national broadcast cut, Extra Innings, MLBAM web money. They are raking in cash. Anyone saying different is looking for excuses that aren’t there.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 10, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Not saying different or making excuses

But I’d love to see their books before I say with such certainty what their P&L looks like.

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Which set?

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

But we don’t know for sure. Everybody assumes that they can throw money all over the place but maybe they can’t? Or maybe they’re holding most of their money to resign Timmy and Matt? I really wish Baggs or Schulman can dig around and found it because whether or not we can become the next Sox or Yankees is really unkown. And with the exception of those two teams and the Phillies (who are spending way more than they can), every other team has budget limitations too

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 10, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Why wouldn’t they be able to throw money all over the place?

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would you spend money you don’t have? They are a business, after all. If they can’t afford a $180 million dollar contract, they why should they agree to it.

Again- I don’t know what they can or can’t afford and I wish they had an owner who didn’t care either way but unless we know for sure, we can’t assume things

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 10, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

AGAIN

So they had the third highest attendance and raised tickets prices

And payroll remains the same.

In what universe do you feel that is justified?

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by DFARowand on Nov 10, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

AGAIN

We don’t know what their finances or how much they can afford or what they’ve decided to spend money on.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 10, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I love that I provide at least some for of evidence for my statement

In addition to all the articles that came out after Neukom was ousted

And your response is

WE JUST DONT KNOW.

 /closes eyes
/plugs ear

Lalalalalala

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by DFARowand on Nov 10, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

How about a little tact? Dingos did eat his/her baby.

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by jhiat00 on Nov 10, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

PROSECUTOR: “Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, we’ve shown you the weapon used in the commission of this crime. We have eyewitness testimony. The victim identified his attacker through a police lineup and then again right here, in front of us all, in open court when he took the stand to testify. There’s DNA evidence found at the scene. The victim’s wallet and credit cards were found in the defendant’s vehicle. With all this physical evidence we have shown beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime took place and that the defendant committed it. Thank you.”

DEFENSE ATTORNEY Dingoes Ate My Baby: “Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I say again, we just don’t know. Thank you.”

by Every6thDay on Nov 10, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

And it turns out the jury is composer entirely of twelve GiantPains.

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by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Composed. Composed. Huh.

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by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Declared a mistrial? The jurors could agree on nothing other than Jose Reyes.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Nov 10, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

For starters...

Got any stats about how their TV/Radio revenue and how it compares to the other teams?

How about concession contracts?

How about parking revenues? Lots of teams have more parking than the Gs.

And there’s also the ballpark. There’s the mortgage, but there’s also revenue from other events. I have no idea what the net expense is.

In short, we don’t have enough facts to know with any certainty one way or another.

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok let me work on that 100 page presentation of the Giants revenue streams and growth projections

Do you ever come to a conclusion without every piece of evidence because it’s a reasonable conclusion given the evidence you do have?

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by DFARowand on Nov 10, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Attendence =/= Total Revenue minus total expenses

Your narrative is like determining how good a player is based on just on batting avg. Since when is asking for meaningful stats a crime here?

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Just going off that Forbes report,

it’s entirely possible there’s no more money left.

$230 million in revenue in 2010 and $114 in payroll expense…

without knowing how much is their operating cost and their debt payment it still certainly seems plausible that they’re at the edge of payroll expenses.

And their revenue this year could only have increased, what 10%? That might be negated entirely with their revenue sharing payment increase.

by Every6thDay on Nov 10, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

And let's talk about that payroll figure

That’s just player payroll, correct? I’m pretty certain it wouldn’t include other employees (coaches, FO, ushers, janitors, ticket sales) salaries & benefits. I’m also pretty sure it wouldn’t include signing bonuses for draft picks and international players.

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I would hazard that MLB payroll ($125 million) + plus other payroll and baseball-related organizational costs (academies, scouts, bonuses, etc.) doesn’t exceed $150 million. I mean, that’s obviously just an “out of thin air” guess, but it seems to make sense. It’s a nice, round number.

by Every6thDay on Nov 10, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

How much did they pay in signing bonuses last year?

I don’t know where to look.

A quick search revealed they have 1500 employees

Some of those would be part-timers, but let’s say half are ful-time, non-mlb players. If you figure those 750 average $100,000 in salary and benefits, that’s another $75M. If the other 750 are hourly, non-benfited employees (Game day people like ushers, groundscrew, ticket people, janitors, etc), they might average $10,000 each, which would be another $750K.

It’s very conceivable that they’re all-up personel expenses are upwards of $200M.

This is out of my butt, but my butt and I do have 25 years experience in business/finance.

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugh "they're" should be "their"

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

It seems to me that 100K is probably an overestimate for full-time non-mlb players. Aren’t analysts and the like notoriously underpaid?

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by speckops on Nov 10, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

But Sabean/Bochy/etc are making a million or 2 right? That’s gotta bring the mean up a bit.

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by Azmanz on Nov 10, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, their website lists about 25 or 26 vice presidents.

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by EliminateMe on Nov 10, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

That's a lotta vice

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Sadly, Philip Michael Thomas couldn’t get a job there, either.

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by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but I figured salaries like Sabean, Bochy and Evans offset the cheap guys

All you need is about a $75-80K salary to get to $100K once you add benefits (health, dental, 401K matching

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, then let’s be extra conservative in their revenue bump from 2010-2011 and say it was only a 5% increase. That’s $241.5 million in strictly team revenue. That doesn’t include anything from MLBAM or non-baseball promotions/events at the stadium. I suppose other advertising should be factor in as revenue, too, or marketing partnerships… I only know that they get about $2 million a year from the naming rights (wikipedia was my source for that, however). Let’s be generous with all that and say that the Giants’ total revenue per year, then, is something like $275 million.

by Every6thDay on Nov 10, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

And from reading this article, it would appear that MLBAM adds another $3 million dollars to the team’s coffers. I don’t have a number for what MLBN provides, if anything.

by Every6thDay on Nov 10, 2011 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't realize the $230M didn't include MLBAM or naming rights

Are you sure they don’t? Either way, you’ve still got a lot of other expenses like:

  • Security/police/paramedics (someone’s gotta take care of jponry’s face)
  • Electrity/water (lots of beer = lots of toilet flushes)
  • Employee embezzlement
  • Promotions/marketing/advertising
  • Community/charity
  • Mortgage
  • Lease payments for land

And I have no idea what expenses they have in the minors and internationally.

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

The Giants are actually

just above average for club value (average is about $523 million) and only after they won the WS.

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I just looked at that link

It appears the $230M was all income (less debt service), so that would include gate receipts ($140M) TV/Radio, mlbam, mlbtv, everything.

Knowing that. I don’t think they’re sitting on huge profits.

As you suggested, revenue might have gone up 5% r so, but we know they raised payroll by at least that much.

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Amazing bullet point
Security/police/paramedics (someone’s gotta take care of jponry’s face)

Poor jponry

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Nov 10, 2011 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

litigation costs/settlement payouts

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m gonna say baloney to the $230 million in revenue. Let’s just do a quick bit of math. So, we know that every Giants game was sold out. That’s 42,000 tickets a pop. Knowing that, let’s adopt a fanciful world wherein every Giants fan in attendance pays an average of 30 bucks to get into the game and attend it in full, drinks, food, and all. Multiply that by 82 games. That’s $103 million for attendance alone. When we go from the patently ridiculous $30-dollar-per-game assumption and instead go toward an elevated but undoubtedly still conservative figure of $60 per fan in attendance, the revenue jumps to $206 million (fancy math!). So, $230 million…. Yeah, right.

I’m looking forward to the excuses when the stadium is paid off.

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by Alex_Lewis on Nov 10, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay. I guess Forbes does not know how to read a balance sheet.

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m thinking it has more to do with MLB lies than Forbes incompetence.

And I would also like to point out that MLB has been lying about its total earnings for over 100 years. It’s not a leap of faith.

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by Alex_Lewis on Nov 10, 2011 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

$60 a game is way too high

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

According The Fan Cost Index, the average price for a family of four to attend a baseball game in San Francisco in 2010 was $220. So $55 a head. So definitely not ‘way’ too high.
Fun fact: in Sand Diego, the same night cost $120.

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

No, just beer.

/holds up hand for hi five

Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.

by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

/misses high five
//falls into wall
///still moving better than Tejada

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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 11, 2011 12:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I attended 36 games last year and brought my own hooch and food. I have to admit to 32 lemonades with “extra ice” though.

I guess that I am the exception and DAMN!- families on the weekend are attending a “wait in line pay for food festival” with a baseball game theme.

2 inning long lines for a freaking $9 sundae.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 11, 2011 12:06 AM PST up reply actions  

For you, yes.

And for a lot of us who go often. But remember there’re a lot of people who go to just a handful of games, and it’s An Event every time. They have to get their Cha Cha Bowl, and they have to get their Widmer, the kids split cotton candy and a Red Rope, and every year they get a new hoodie, etc.

I mean, I usually go cheap on Stubhub to about 20 games a year, and I almost never buy merch (I have enough), and I can easily hit $60 a game. Especially if I hit Public House.

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by troymccluresf on Nov 10, 2011 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Does the team sell concessions?

I thought they sell concession rights

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously, hwere did you get $60?

I have Premium Lower Box seats and they’re like $45 a piece.

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Than You Goofus

for making my point a lot better than I did

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 10, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe that was phrased wrong

But from what we can see, the Giants have enough cash flow that they ought to be able to spend. What could be constraining them?

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

As I tried to show above

Determining their cash flow is tricky and total attendance tells just a fraction of the story.

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Because rich people like being rich people.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep.

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by jhiat00 on Nov 10, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

And we’ll never know for sure, but that doesn’t mean we can’t lament the absence of spending more to improve the team in the areas that need improvement.

by Every6thDay on Nov 10, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would they want to quit “Timmy” and “Matt”?

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by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Required reading

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 10, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t understand how a simple statement of saying we don’t really know what the team’s budget is would cause such a stir unless everybody knows except for me. Among things we don’t know is how much is the team spending (you know, in scouting, the farm system, building up a presence in Latin America). Then there’s debt payments (which freaked out the team before) and are they still paying off Bonds’ contract? I do pretty much think they’re playing cheap and it sucks but I’m also saying I’ve never believed they’d make a play for both Reyes and Beltran because they’d never dish out the money.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 10, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

All of those numbers are easily looked up. The internet is a fun and informative place. Take a spin.

And I have seen you bring up the Bonds thing before. The amount of money they are still paying him on his personal services contract is relative chump change. 1 or 2 million a year. Debt service? About 17 million or less than Zito will make next year.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 10, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s the repetition of the statement that’s annoying.

by Every6thDay on Nov 10, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Let's play your game

I’ve never met you.

I don’t really know that you aren’t Angela Merkel.

JUST SAYING. WE DONT KNOW FOR SURE.

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by DFARowand on Nov 10, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

This whole back and forth has made me pine for going back and forth with GiantPain because even when it’s obvious that he thinks you’re an idiot, he is at least is respectful about it.

Also, if you see the debate above, you’ll see I have a point.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Nov 10, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, my VPN blocks HardBallTimes.com…I wonder what it thinks it is.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Tough testicles?

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]

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by can of corn on Nov 10, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I love that site, but I find the Eastern European accents hard to decipher.

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

GagBallTimes.com

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 10, 2011 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you make the show last night? We passed.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

SOLD OUT!

I did. I drank Flan’s moonshine and got to keep the jar. I’m working on a fan shot that no one will read.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 10, 2011 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Put pictures in it so there’s reason to not read.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

/plans on not reading it

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t read it before it was cool to not read it.

"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain

by EliminateMe on Nov 10, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I posted tl:dnr, but actually read it—and enjoyed it. Dont tell gah’s bong.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sweating moonshine and won’t remember.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 10, 2011 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

What MLB owns tickets.com?

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Nov 10, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 10, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

That was suppose to be:

WHOA MLB OWNS TICKETS.COM?

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Nov 10, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

And I think it’s also fair to consider the increase in the value of the franchise as part of the value to the owners. If the ownership group buys the team for, say, $150 million, and sells it down the line for $700 million, investing an extra $15-20 million in an occasional year doesn’t seem so outrageous.

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by can of corn on Nov 10, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

How do the Padres have a higher avg road attendance?

by S. Pickford #25 on Nov 10, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

They don’t play away games in San Diego.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Should have been more clear, why do they have a higher road attendance than the giants? It can’t be solely due to them not being in SD can it?

by S. Pickford #25 on Nov 10, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that's the reason, actually

The Padres and Giants play similar road schedules, except that the Padres play a number of road games in San Francisco but the Giants play those games in San Diego. It makes a large difference, I would imagine.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

It just seems like even with that, the Giants draw far more fans at away games than the Padres do. Maybe Giants fans just all buy the tickets on stubhub.

by S. Pickford #25 on Nov 10, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s only 9 games each way.

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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Also increased their ticket prices the most
The San Francisco Giants increased their prices the most from last year. Their average ticket went up 14.1 percent to $25.04 after they won the World Series.

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by DFARowand on Nov 10, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. Just got my invoice. Ouch

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Not under contract?

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Mine only went up $75

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by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

No Reyes for you. You watch Crawford and eat your $7 hot dog.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

and your damn egg roll

WHY IS MELKY

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Nov 10, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss heimy.

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by can of corn on Nov 10, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I like watching Crawford. In the field at least.

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

So they had the third highest attendance and raised tickets prices

And payroll remains the same.

In what universe is do you feel that is justified?

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by DFARowand on Nov 10, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

In this one...

Where the investors feel they have to make back the “rainy day fun” that Neukom spent, that bastard.

A twisted logic but likely 100% true.

by Ian A on Nov 10, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Which top free agents are those?

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Trade Rumors
“The A’s, Nationals, Mets and Indians could be interested in Norichika Aoki, the three-time Central League batting champion who will be posted this offseason, according to ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick. SI.com’s Jon Heyman suggests those same four teams could be interested in Grady Sizemore (Twitter links).”

Translation: The A’s are having a more ambitious offseason than the Giants.

/wrist

by Ian A on Nov 10, 2011 1:32 PM PST reply actions  

Don’t they always? Isn’t that how they ended up with Coco Crisp, David DeJesus aJosh Willingham? Guys wo have been good coming off injury seasons? Sizemore fits them perfectly.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Just like Carroll and Cabrera fit SF!

I’m feeling a little depressed after Grant’s post

by Ian A on Nov 10, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

to be fair, they’ll probably also sign Raul Ibanez.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

GET OFF MY LAWN!

When I turned 35 last Spring I decided I no longer trust the Giants to sign a baseball player older than I am. I’m sticking by it.

by Ian A on Nov 10, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

/wrist

Nice.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Larry Baer thinks that if the Giants did nothing, the fans would show anyway at AT&T.

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by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I disagree

They learned that lesson in 2008 when the sell outs began going away.

Giants ownership are not dumb. They understand the revenue generated after winning the WS was like nothing they have ever seen. They are not going to cut spending when they know they can double each cent they spend.

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Giants ownership are not dumb.

I’m not sure what makes you say this.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Because

they are made up of extremely intelligent people who are extremely successful at business.

The other good thing about this ownership is that there are no big egos (ala Frank McCourt). That could be a bad thing as well if the team is directionless.

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

The Burnses have certainly been extremely successful at business.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

In the business of picking their parents.

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

they are made up of extremely intelligent people who are extremely successful at business.

Tori and Trina aren’t successful businesspeople. They’re the children and heirs of successful businesspeople.

Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.

by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Contact the Burns Sisters.

Consult your rolodeces folks, can anyone here contact them by text, telex, cable, fax, phone, e-mail, semaphore, aldus lamp, smoke signal, or homing pigeon?
RE: rainy day fund — fact or fiction?

by Lunkus on Nov 10, 2011 1:33 PM PST reply actions  

rolodeces?

Sounds disgusting.

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah they are all round and flappy.

by Lunkus on Nov 10, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t the Burns sisters recently sell a large portion to other investors? I don’t want to kill a great McC meme, but I swear I read something about that somewhere.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 10, 2011 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

To the Franklin guy who took over from Nukes.

by wcw on Nov 10, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

#OccupyFranklinGuy

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 10, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

he's in the 0.1%

The joke is, the bottom 0.9% of the 1% have more in common with the unwashed 99% than they do with the 0.1%.

It’s the Walton heirs and the Koch brothers world. We just pay rent.

by wcw on Nov 10, 2011 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 10, 2011 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

They should sell to Warren Hellman

Then we’d get free bluegrass too.

Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.

by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Emmylou Harris playing 2B and batting second!

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 11, 2011 12:16 AM PST up reply actions  

What is SS heirarchy?

1. Reyes
2. Rollins
3. Crawford (or anyone lower) + Beltran singing
4. Furcal
5. Carrol
6. Barmes
7. Crawford
8. Yuni

Anyone I missed? Any changes? Assuming 6 years for Reyes, 3-4 Rollins, 2 or less all others.

by Myemail21479 on Nov 10, 2011 1:36 PM PST reply actions  

*signing… Although Beltran singing would be hilarious

by Myemail21479 on Nov 10, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

1. Reyes
2. Rollins
3. Crawford (or anyone lower) + Beltran signing
4. Furcal
5. Carrol
6. Barmes
7. Crawford
8. Yuni

by Myemail21479 on Nov 10, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Selfish Beltran only sings in the shower so only he can enjoy it.

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by jhiat00 on Nov 10, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Furcal has to be lower than Carroll, if for no other reason than he’s going to spend 60 days on the DL and you’ll end up with 100 games of Crawford anyway.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I did the math wrong…

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

60 days on DL, 40 days retirement

"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark

by iammclovin on Nov 10, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe you threw in the “rehab” days.

by Hyoton on Nov 10, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Melky will lead us to the promised land

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Nov 10, 2011 1:42 PM PST reply actions  

Melky > Rectum Face

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .

Job 1:14-15

by bigboneded on Nov 10, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I love the slow zoom as the ball rolls and rolls and rolls…

by Rdubya on Nov 10, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder how much crap the Reds' bullpen gave him for that

“Hey Melky, looks like you forgot to factor in the wind”

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

SABES IS JUST SANDBAGGING SO HE CAN POST FOR DARVISH!!!!

…sign Rollins…

…and that’ll be what Beltran needs to be convinced.

Darvish, Rollins, and a big glass of Melk.

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

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Job 1:14-15

by bigboneded on Nov 10, 2011 1:42 PM PST reply actions  

do not want Darvish

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Why?

I mean, if the answer is that you think he’d be too expensive, maybe. But I don’t get why you wouldn’t want him.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Yu don’t?

WHY IS MELKY

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Nov 10, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

That one physically hurt.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yu r 5.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

No Yu!

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]

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by can of corn on Nov 10, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I DON'T BELIEVE YU!

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Nov 10, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

What about TL2 as Miss Yu?

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Yu gotta be kidding.

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

For the longest time I thought this person was made up.

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Nov 10, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

YOU ARE NOT THE BOSS OF WHAT SAVVY SABES WANTS

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

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Job 1:14-15

by bigboneded on Nov 10, 2011 1:45 PM PST reply actions  

dummy…reply fail.

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

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Job 1:14-15

by bigboneded on Nov 10, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Sitting in a courtroom in Hayward

What did I miss? Has the Giants signed Jack Wilson yet?

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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 1:46 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I'm like 2 miles from you right now

/commences stalking

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I am the Asian guy

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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 1:47 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

…with McRib breath.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha! I had the Angus Burger (which was quite good)

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 1:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

That actually narrows it down a fair amount.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

If you see him, make sure to tell him he’s wrong about everything but cake.

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by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoa, league shuffle?
The players and owners are considering significant changes to the schedule in talks for a new collective bargaining agreement. The sides are considering a proposal that would split MLB teams into six divisions of five teams, ensure identical schedules for teams within the same division and boost inter-league play considerably.

MLB Trade Rumors

In other words, they are actually giving serious consideration to the Jim Bowden plan.

Props to SB Nation for picking this up back in June but holy crap, they may actually do it? Thoughts?

by Ian A on Nov 10, 2011 1:48 PM PST reply actions  

Hasn't this been the plan for a while now?

Astros to the AL West?

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but this was going to necessitate an interleague game every day. The quote says:

boost inter-league play considerably.

Doesn’t sound like the same thing.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be boosting interleague play considerably, wouldn’t it?

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Without doing the math, I dont think it has to. Currently there’s 14 games a day for, what, two one week periods? If you play only one a day, it’s pretty close.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

That was my impression. Not boosting so much as spreading it out.

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Jayson Stark had a breakdown of the proposal:

18 games vs. divisional opponents (72 games)
6 games vs. everyone else in league (60 games)
3 games vs. corresponding division in other league (15 games)
3 games vs. one other divsion in other league (15 games)

So, for example, the Giants would play all AL West teams every year, and play AL Central or AL East teams in alternating years.

by QuakeFan on Nov 10, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

And unify both league vis-a-vis the DH rule?

Might as well get ’er done.

"If you can’t make a profit, you should sell your team." - Michael Jordan (Owner, Charlotte Bobcats)

by otis29 on Nov 10, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

No, I will fight to the death to prevent this. Absolutely no.

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by Prussian Creole on Nov 10, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm resigned to it

I can’t stand the DH, but I’m at the point that I hate the disparity in the leagues more.

Plus, I watched Ramon Ramirez “bat” this year.

"If you can’t make a profit, you should sell your team." - Michael Jordan (Owner, Charlotte Bobcats)

by otis29 on Nov 10, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

So you're with this guy

Baseball Digest, 1974 “”http://books.google.com/books?id=mjMDAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA1&pg=PA45#v=onepage&q&f=false" target="new">Thumbs Down on the DH Rule"

by Ian A on Nov 10, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know who I'm with or not with

What I do know is it’s ridiculous to such a huge rules disparity between two leagues in the same professional sport.

Of course, I’d love for the AL to abolish the DH. But back here in the real world…

"If you can’t make a profit, you should sell your team." - Michael Jordan (Owner, Charlotte Bobcats)

by otis29 on Nov 10, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Let's be proper Americans and politicize it!
Several aspects of our findings deserve mention. Most important, and consistent with our expectations, we find that self-identified Democratic Party members are more likely to support the DH rule than are either independents or Republicans; the odds ratio of 1.90 suggests that, on average, Democrats are 90 percent more likely to support the rule than are independents. This implies (we think) that the values that draw the respondents to the Democrats are linked to those associated with supporting the rule. At the same time, the reverse is not true: Republicans are no more or less likely to support the DH rule than are political independents. Nor are self-identified political conservatives, once the effects of party are accounted for, any more likely to express hostility toward the rule than are liberals

http://artsci.wustl.edu/~jgill/papers/qjps.zorngill.pdf

by Ian A on Nov 10, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember reading this

Fun stuff, even if this makes me sad:

the values that draw the respondents to the Democrats are linked to those associated with supporting the rule

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Confusing cause and correlation?

I haven’t read the study, but it seem logical to me that the biggest factor in support of the DH rule is whether your team plays with a DH or not… What are the biggest fan bases? Yankees and Red Sox? NY and Boston… not exactly conservative strongholds. Could it just be that these fans are skewing the results?

Would Philly and Chicago be enough to balance that effect out?

by Cixelsyd on Nov 11, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh, wasn’t that after Huff hit that monster dinger in Texas?

Nate Schierholtz wasn't born, he was built.

by Nivek5150 on Nov 10, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

No, although the Huff shot did also provoke an “O” response from Freddy.

by non sequitur on Nov 10, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

No, it was after Denny Bautista hit a single (notice that the Giants are wearing their home uniforms).

Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES

by mymclife on Nov 10, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice try

but you can’t fool me. If Denny Bautista had pitched for the Giants in 2010, I’d remember it.

Next you’ll be trying to convince us that Brandon Medders was a Giant in 2010 too.

"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain

by EliminateMe on Nov 10, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

♥ Mole n his O face

Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.

by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

It is nice to have one reminder of an age when the leagues were real entities and not everything was subsumed into Selig’s MLB.

But the difference between leagues doesn’t matter to me at all. Why should I care if the A’s do things a different way?

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not saying you should care

Just saying I do. It’s bad enough in the World Series, but it really should have been cleaned up when they started playing inter-league ball.

"If you can’t make a profit, you should sell your team." - Michael Jordan (Owner, Charlotte Bobcats)

by otis29 on Nov 10, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

You're certainly entitled to care; I just want to understand why

Of course it’s stupid in interleague play, but then interleague play is stupid.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

But we also got to see Casilla bat this year. Although I guess it wasn’t technically an AB.

Nate Schierholtz wasn't born, he was built.

by Nivek5150 on Nov 10, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

no

The AL can continue to live in darkness if it wants; I don’t care about the AL. But I will not have my team play clown-ball.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

This is stupid and wrong

You can’t have a league with an odd number of teams. That makes no sense.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t want more inter-league play, unless the DH is abolished. It’s fairly useless right now anyway.

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]

I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"

by can of corn on Nov 10, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Union is never going to let it happen

The DH will go to both leagues and then kids who play little league will wonder why their pitcher is hitting, when they could have their coach do it instead.

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Nov 10, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate MLB.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I find it interesting that DH discussions inevitably have a "but pitchers hitting? LOL" comment in them

But no one ever points out Ortiz playing 1B or Vlad in RF or any of the hilarity those situations cause.

Hey, fat, old broken down guy, step away from the buffet, put your uniform away and give someone who can still play all of the game a chance.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 10, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I love it when you find a pitcher who can hit.

But you find tons of DH’s who cannot field.

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Nov 10, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

My responses

6×5 – no
more playoffs – no
DH in NL – no
Remove DH in AL – Yes (lol never going to happen)
move the Astros to AL in case of change because they are changing ownership therefore we can stick it to them instead of Bud Selig’s crying baby Brewers who were there before – no

by Myemail21479 on Nov 10, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

how come the brewers don’t want to go back to the AL?

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Nov 10, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it has to do with location, Houston makes more sense in the AL West than Milwakee.

Brandon Crawford: Better than overpaying for Jimmy Rollins.

by Azmanz on Nov 10, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah

I think Milwaukee would rather keep their rivalries going with the Cubs and Cardinals… Houston on the other hand would be missed by no one in the NL Central, and you’d have a nice, budding rivalry with the Rangers for Texas supremacy.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Nov 10, 2011 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

yep

And if the Brewers start to suck and the Cubs get good…Miller park becomes Wrigley North and they can lose 90 games while selling 2.5 million tickets.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 11, 2011 12:09 AM PST up reply actions  

You thought the brain tumor thing was a come-on?

2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a common mistake.

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Please tell me you two are doing some kind of message-board performance piece.

by wcw on Nov 10, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Whatever’s funnier.

by Every6thDay on Nov 10, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Frank Chu approves.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 10, 2011 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
theres not much optimism now phillies ceo montgomery will approve $44M, 4-yr deal. so madson has good chance to go elsewhere

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Nov 10, 2011 2:05 PM PST reply actions  

Smart man

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Nov 10, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

SABEY SABES SABEY SWOOP

Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.

by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

John Daly had a meltdown in the Aussie Open
Playing in the event on a sponsor’s exemption, he had the opportunity to pocket a nice check at a world-class tournament in Oz.

But in typical Daly fashion, he found a way to ruin the tournament’s generosity in spectacular fashion. After knocking his ball into a bunker on the 10th hole, Daly inadvertently hit the wrong ball out of the sand — hard as it is to believe, the ball he hit was actually one from the range — to take a 1-stroke penalty. That’s where things went horribly wrong.

Frustrated with the penalty on the 10th, Daly came unglued after hitting his first ball into the water on the par-5 11th hole. After taking a drop, Daly then hit six more balls into the water. For a brief moment, it seemed like golf fans were watching a real-life “Tin Cup” moment.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 10, 2011 2:07 PM PST reply actions  

.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

This looks like the before image of a Project Runway challenge

“Designers, I need you to design an innovative fashion-forward garment out of professional golf and curling pants.

You will have 5 hours and a budget of $15 to complete this design. Make it work!"

by WhatsAMataHari on Nov 10, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually, those pants aren’t cheap. It costs somewhere between $75 to over $100.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

True. I am imagining the $15 dollars for additional fabric/fixtures that they need to make something out of the (somewhat expensive) ugly pants.

I might have just marathoned way too many episodes of Project Runway.

by WhatsAMataHari on Nov 10, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

That's pretty much

every piece of clothing.

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

It is called Loud Mouth

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey John, did those pants come with a hit of acid?

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

whoa

for a second there I thought the 2014 Marlins hit a home run!

[Poorly Wrought THING] is what Brian Sabean would have made if he were a [THING-maker] instead of a MLB GM

by zenbitz on Nov 10, 2011 3:57 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

HA!!

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 10, 2011 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

How does a range ball

end up in a bunker at the Australian Open?

by Lunkus on Nov 10, 2011 2:15 PM PST reply actions  

The story is that

the range is right next to one of the holes and people hit balls over the range fence into the greenside bunkers on the hole.

Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.

by D4P on Nov 10, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

While the Open is being played?

Or couldn’t they afford to rake it out before the match started.

by Lunkus on Nov 10, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it is more bizarre that after 3 or 4 balls into the water on a par 5

He didn’t decide to just lay up short of the water. KEEP GOING, JOHNNY! 7TH TIME’S THE CHARM!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 10, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

The story is that

he intentionally hits all of his balls into the water so that he has an excuse for withdrawing (i.e. because he ran out of balls).

Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.

by D4P on Nov 10, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

...

Photobucket

"If you can’t make a profit, you should sell your team." - Michael Jordan (Owner, Charlotte Bobcats)

by otis29 on Nov 10, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Marin visits Australian Open

Cheech had the worst case of deja vu yesterday.

by Lunkus on Nov 10, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Every PGA event I've been to

There are pros on the range all the time. If they’re not on the course, they’re either on the range or the practice greens.

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Where did every1 go?

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Nov 10, 2011 2:29 PM PST reply actions  

TWSS

Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.

by speckops on Nov 10, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Looting.

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Nov 10, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

what did the boss drop?

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
can of corn

by jctGamer on Nov 10, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Still here, doing a bit-o-work.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Training a fill-in host. Busy day.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Practice preliminary examination talk.

Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.

by speckops on Nov 10, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

If you can't trust Jimmy Rollins' friend and random speculation from Jayson Stark

WHAT CAN YOU TRUST

Well, Jimmy Rollins‘ friend says he has interest from six teams. Jayson Stark says that the Phillies, Cardinals, Brewers, Braves and Giants are likely among those six. For the sixth one, I’m going to guess the 1947 St. Louis Browns. Which makes no sense because Vern Stevens is easily one of their best hitters, but that’s the hot stove season for you

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Nov 10, 2011 2:35 PM PST reply actions  

If the Browns steal Rollins away from the Cards, it’s going to be ugly in St. Louis.

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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Next you’re gonna tell me Jon Heyman is just a Boras shill.

by Hyoton on Nov 10, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

If the Cards are after Rollins

That should tell us what we need to konw about Furcal

by Myemail21479 on Nov 10, 2011 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s in 4 pieces?

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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Well said.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

So Jimmy's friend says there are 6 teams.

And Jason Stark tries to figure out which teams those 6 are? Why didn’t Jimmy’s friends just tell Stark the 6 teams?

Brandon Crawford: Better than overpaying for Jimmy Rollins.

by Azmanz on Nov 10, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Jimmy's friend asked Jimmy and he Perry'd

“You got the Phillies, the Cards…the Phillies, the Cards….the Phillies, the Cards…oops”

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

You should say this again

Or should I say, riposte it?

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.

by speckops on Nov 10, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Sixth team is the Edmonton Capitals

I hear they’re reloading to defend their title next season.

"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain

by EliminateMe on Nov 10, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Given that Vern Stephens had jumped to the Mexican League, it would make sense for the Browns to be uncertain about his performance back in America.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

If Sabes tries to steal Vern Stevens for veteran presence…

by Lunkus on Nov 10, 2011 2:44 PM PST reply actions  

Looking for accessories for my cell phone on Ebay

I do not need 18 accessories! I just need a car charger, a handsfree headphone/device, and maybe a case

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2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 2:46 PM PST reply actions  

bejeweled case

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, while you’re here go to Southland Mall! It’s so ghetto that the only things sold there now are shoes, cell phones and cellphone accessories, and enormous shirts with airbrushed pictures of Tupac on them.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

You should also be able to find Raiders gear.

/Did a nickle in Hayward

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

You are stalking me

I am sitting at the Panera Bread at Southland. There is like 10 cops sitting in the patio area. Southland is still better than Bayfair though.

Spoiled by the malls in OC, the malls in the East Bay have gone way down hill. Even Stoneridge is getting a little dated.

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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

my stalking abilities are unmatched

I’ve learned everything I know from jct. And yeah, Bayfair is definitely worse.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought we agreed to only stalk waitresses?

by Turf_Toe_ on Nov 10, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Here CalBear, put this on…

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

geez, that bad? I mean I haven’t been there since like 1993… are the bumper cars and arcade still there? skating rink?

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I have no recollection of bumper cars of a skating rink

I assume that arcade is still down there in the food court…

It also frequently has one of those weird little travelling carnivals where 90% of the employees are likely on some sort of list mandating that they can’t go within 200 yards of any elementary school.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

“down there” eh? so maybe they took out the bumpercars and put in a food court? There was no food court there back in the early- mid 80’s …
The ice rink was upstairs
mmmm well…
http://bigmallrat.blogspot.com/2006/09/story-of-southland-mall-hayward.html

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

It's really weird that theres a blog about malls

And that there’s 30 comments on the post.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not kidding

SunValley Mall

MONDAY, MAY 26, 2008

Giant Cocks Penetrate Mall

by Turf_Toe_ on Nov 10, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I have to admit to an intellectual fascination about malls, if that’s not too oxymoronic a concept. They’re about consumer culture and, on the other side, the organization of retail. In the 70s and 80s (when I was growing up), malls were everything. And now they’ve been dying for the past two decades.

by non sequitur on Nov 10, 2011 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

As a blogger posted:

“REMEMBER THE ORANGE JULIUS???”

by Turf_Toe_ on Nov 10, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Here’s a fantastic collection of photographs of closed retail operations.

I don’t know much about the photographer, but a friend sent the link as he thought it reminded him of my work.

http://notifbutwhen.com/projects/copia/dark-stores/#i1

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

nice

That Six Flags Mall was doomed to fail. It looks pixelated.

The CompUSA looks depressing.

Westland Mall is what the few old shopping centers in my hometown that are still on life support look like.

by non sequitur on Nov 10, 2011 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked the slide show.
The Circuit City’s that tried to morph.
The KFC Bucket on the ground.
The window that said “Over 100 years”
That was Art man!

by Turf_Toe_ on Nov 10, 2011 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I used to go to Stonestown every day, back when it was an outside mall. It had Emporium, Bullocks and Woolworth’s.

by City Girl on Nov 10, 2011 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, malls were in part always about their “anchor” department stores, weren’t they. At Independence Mall outside Kansas City, MO, it was Macy’s, I think Woolworth’s, and something called Styx, Baer, and Fuller (sp?).

by non sequitur on Nov 10, 2011 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Emporium, Bullocks, Woolworth’s…

They must be out of business, or sold out to another business. I haven’t seen them around lately.

Didn’t Downtown SF have a big Emporium’s?

by Turf_Toe_ on Nov 10, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, on Market. It’s the Galleria now (I think, I loathe malls and chain stores/franchises).

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, Westfield Mall. Bloomingdale’s is obnoxious.

by City Girl on Nov 10, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I keep wondering where people like you actually shop. Probably those places where everything smells like hemp.

Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.

by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

cuts out the middleman!

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I shop a lot in Bezos-land. Scary thing is I’ve begun to look there — so far, just looking — for groceries and everyday household items.

by non sequitur on Nov 10, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

He creeped me out long ago, but he’s made his little clearinghouse nearly indispensable.

Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.

by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

WHAT DO YOU MEAN ‘PEOPLE LIKE YOU’ ??!?!?

2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I know right? I can’t find a way to not sound like that. But then, I always shop at chain stores and franchises, so I always feel maligned when people sneer at them.

Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.

by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I shop at Bi-Rite, Oliviers butcher, K&L liquors, aQuarius records, the smack dealer in Clarion Alley…

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I suppose if it’s right there and the quality/service is good …

Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.

by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

first one is free

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 11, 2011 12:19 AM PST up reply actions  

The “Emporium” sign is still at street level on Market.

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
Golden Gate Beer Bars | Tweetybox

by troymccluresf on Nov 10, 2011 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

And they kept the dome!

Here’s a history of the place I found researching it for my book:

http://www.plummersearch.com/blog/?p=880

Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.

by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Imagine growing up without a Woolworths….

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

A whats-what?

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

LAWN
OFF
NOW!

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, I was trolling a little bit. I’ve heard of Woolworth’s, but by the time I was growing up, they were mostly gone. I don’t remember ever having been in one.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

why are they showing me results from Australia? The wall charger won’t even work here!

The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

JanieMcCAP Janie McCauley
Former #Giants #Phillies Pat Burrell tells AP career likely over b/c of foot. "I don’t think I can play anymore. It hurts me to say that.

extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."

by Badly Browned on Nov 10, 2011 2:59 PM PST reply actions  

We’ll always have 2010 Pat. Thanks for being a part of it.

/bad_out_to_pasture_joke

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

D:

Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian

I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.

by Ceora on Nov 10, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe he can be a coach? He can be the anti-Dunston.

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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

fabulous

Pat Burrell for minor league hitting instructor (and general swagger instructor)

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Nov 10, 2011 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Just heard that on KNBR too.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

/pounds BL in his honor

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Nov 10, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Who BL? Better get her permission first. Perhaps woo her with a low-calorie brew.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

“bondslegend”

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t know bondslegend would submit to getting pounded.

Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.

by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Great line from the HardBall Talk article
If his career is over, he finishes it with a line of .253/.361/.472, which translates to an OPS+ of 116. He hit 292 homers and drove in 976. Word on the street is that he was a popular gent out on the town too.

Not a bad way to spend 12 years between your early 20s and mid-30s

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Nov 10, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

They forgot "Legendary cocksman"

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

In the words of Brian Wilson

Never bet against the ’cocks.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Nov 10, 2011 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m waiting for the match up between Oregon State and South Carolina….the Beavers vs. the ’cocks

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by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I really wish he was able to have a better World Series, given how much he did for the team during the regular season. I hope they find some role for him in the organization. Maybe have him fight Dunston to the death to decide who gets to work with the players on walks and OBP.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Had one of the biggest walks in Giants history.

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Pat Burrel

More rings than World Series hits…lol

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by Badly Browned on Nov 10, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Foot injuries can hurt…

by Turf_Toe_ on Nov 10, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

:'(

Don’t leave us, Pat

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by Prussian Creole on Nov 10, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Man, I’m gonna miss him.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

2 videos

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=10465835&c_id=mlb

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=19758593&c_id=mlb

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

“I’m gonna murder him!”

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by troymccluresf on Nov 10, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Never Forget

http://vimeo.com/17392178

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by jctGamer on Nov 10, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I watched this like 10 times earlier this year when we thought Burrell was going to get DFA’d. Great video.

by fishmicmuffin on Nov 10, 2011 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

.

"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain

by EliminateMe on Nov 10, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Never forget:

Your pussy is jealous

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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by scout6 on Nov 10, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll miss Pat. Even though he only played 1.5 seasons here, he was easily one of my favorite players.

Go Bells.

by S. Pickford #25 on Nov 10, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

.

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if Sabean is kicking this tire?
Speaking of Pirates catchers, free agent Ryan Doumit has obtained multiple offers and expects to sign this month, according to ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick (Twitter links). The versatile 30-year-old is looking for a one-year deal.

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 3:04 PM PST reply actions  

Grant is
mccoveychron McCovey Chronicles
Doumit fits the Giants’ needs so danged well, a switch-hitting guy to spell Posey on oh my god wait is that Yuniesky Betancourt’s agent????

by Myemail21479 on Nov 10, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought there were some Doumit haters here.

He will ask for a lot though. Made $5.2 million last year.

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

He is a weird piece

But he can play C and Corner OF. He fits well with splitting time with Posey and the current two LH corner OF we have (Belt and Nate) or moving Posey to 1b vs LHP (and spelling Huff)

by Myemail21479 on Nov 10, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Same as last year.

I want Posey to only catch about 110 games, play another position in 30, and sit the other 22. Doumit would be perfect to catch the other 52, and maybe play a different position in 20 or so games. Too bad I doubt he wants to sign as a back up.

Brandon Crawford: Better than overpaying for Jimmy Rollins.

by Azmanz on Nov 10, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I want Posey to bat 1-8 and also be our closer.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm in

Sabean has to be thinking upgrade to backup C after last season, right? Right?

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 10, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope so.

Brandon Crawford: Better than overpaying for Jimmy Rollins.

by Azmanz on Nov 10, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Can Bloomquist catch?

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by speckops on Nov 10, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Can he!!!???

/canned audience laughter

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

question is whether he will just stick with Stewart.

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I sincerely hope he is

Doumit would be fantastic.. but just someone who could respectably fill in for a couple weeks or a month if necessary would be really nice.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Nov 10, 2011 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I would not be surprised if they overpay for a back up catcher this year, given what happened last year.

Then again, this is assuming that the front office is capable of learning from past mistakes, which is a dubious assumption at best.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

How can you hate a guy from Moses Lake?

If Affeldt pitched to him, it would be the only I-90 battery in history.

by mrs. owlcroft on Nov 10, 2011 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Doumit would be nice to have as a pinch-hitter and backup catcher/outfielder/first baseman/whatever, but he’ll be too expensive.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

“Welcome back to the Giants…ELI WHITESIDE!!!!!!!”

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by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah

Stewart

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Based on last year I would take Stewart over Whiteside.

by WhatsAMataHari on Nov 10, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I would as well…he’s also cheaper and has a cool kid.

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Whitey has a kid named Whit!

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by EliminateMe on Nov 10, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Most of would but we are talking about the Giants here. A team who was interested in Willie Bloomquist.

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by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

the choice to sign Stewart over Eli is pretty easy

Eli is arb 1…Stewart is league minimum

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I might be the only person here who wouldn’t have a problem with that.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Except he's too expensive

and is replaceable

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

If Sabean was kicking him

no wonder Bloomquist re-signed with the D-backs for less money.

by Lunkus on Nov 10, 2011 3:11 PM PST reply actions  

My gift to you all

http://twitpic.com/3bq5or

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by jctGamer on Nov 10, 2011 3:21 PM PST reply actions  

Pujols is Robocop?

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Kes quote

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I forgot to mention this earlier, but NPR’s Juan Forero filed a piece on Wilson Ramos’ kidnapping. It will air on ATC again at about 5:25 p.m. Pacific. Here’s the story info page.

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by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 3:27 PM PST reply actions  

Something tells me that I-don’t-want-sports-in-my-NPR listener who wrote reamed you the other day will keep his/her mouth shut on this one.

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by Prussian Creole on Nov 10, 2011 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I was listening to the Madeline Brand show

this morning and they stated that Pete Rose gambled while he coached the Montreal Expos.

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Pete Rose gambled while his heart was beating.

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

It would’ve been pretty impressive if he’d gambled as a zombie

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by Smoke on the Water on Nov 10, 2011 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Pete Rose would take action on that proposition.

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

You know what I would've been intrigued by?

Seeing if we could have swapped for Andruw Jones instead of Melky Cabrera. If you believe Torres is still a worthwhile CF (which I do, even if the Giants don’t), and Nate can be the backup, Jones would have been a nice compliment to either Belt or Schierholtz or both. 200-300 ABs against mainly left handed pitching with good power, and all for just a couple million? I’d take it.

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Nov 10, 2011 3:27 PM PST reply actions  

Isn’t Jones a free agent?

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Nov 10, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought the Yankees exercised an option to keep him. But I’m just going off memory, so I could be wrong. If he’s a free agent, there should be some tire-kicking going on.

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Nov 10, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

If only there were some tracker, with a list of all the players that are free agents. Maybe it could even by alphabetized by first name, so I could easily find out if Andruw Jones were on the list…

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Nov 10, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed. Such a thing would be perfect

Jones is an interesting option for the Giants. I’m ok with the idea of him as the designated lefty masher.

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Nov 10, 2011 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

depends how much he wants. He could be the new Pat Burrell.

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll only do it if we get Chipper as well.

We’ll even find a good home for Ryan Klesko again, too.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok, so after looking it up, you seem to be correct. I amend my wish to, “Seeing if we could pick up Andruw Jones for what we offered Bloomquist.”

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Nov 10, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

2 years and $12 million?

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s, what, almost triple what we offered Bloomquist? He was paid about $2 million last year. He’s obviously settled into a lefty masher/4th outfield type of role, I don’t think it would take too much.

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Nov 10, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm kidding

just playing the rumored offer from the Giants to Bloomquist.

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, ok. Carry on!

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Nov 10, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm cool with that.

Since Belt will likely be platooned anyways.

Brandon Crawford: Better than overpaying for Jimmy Rollins.

by Azmanz on Nov 10, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Who called it? Prussian?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 3:33 PM PST reply actions  

There’s no way they could’ve let it slide

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by Prussian Creole on Nov 10, 2011 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

This would be interesting
JERUSALEM — Three Jewish former major leaguers have joined Israel’s bid for the 2013 World Baseball Classic, a move that could transform the baseball backwater into a legitimate contender.

Shawn Green, Brad Ausmus and Gabe Kapler met this week in Los Angeles with Israeli baseball officials and committed to helping Israel field a competitive team in next year’s WBC qualifying round, the three players told The Associated Press.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7217085/top-jewish-former-baseball-players-join-israel-bid-world-baseball-classic

Wait…so Jewish players can play Israel regardless of nationality?

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 3:49 PM PST reply actions  

well, if you can prove your Jewish heritage, you can get almost automatic citizenship in Israel…that may be part of it

by Aaron Can on Nov 10, 2011 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

/unpacks.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

reticulating splines

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by jctGamer on Nov 10, 2011 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

In the last WBC, all you needed to play for the Italian team was a last name ending in “i” or “o”.

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by EliminateMe on Nov 10, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn

Ichiro could have played there.

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by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Sadly, Mike Piazza was laughed at and asked to leave the registration.

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by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Basically, you can play for a country that you are able to be a citizen of, regardless of whether you’re actually a citizen or not. Since anyone with Jewish heritage can (basically) become an Israeli citizen, any Jewish ballplayer would be able to play for the Israeli national team.

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by free f.p. #14 on Nov 10, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe the last time the WBC was played anyone with background in the particular nation could play for them. Like that Cardinal guy with the long Italian name playing for Italy. Alex Rodriguez for Puerto Rico or whatever.

The Philippines used to be a baseball powerhouse in the Far East. Before the war destroyed everything and introduced basketball. I wonder what we could do with Tim Lincecum.

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

A-Rod played for Dominican Republic

by kingofthacove on Nov 10, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Or that. Despite being Puerto Rican. Something like that.

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Agent Ned!
The Dodgers are “aggressively pursuing” infielders and are also interested in acquiring a catcher and starting pitchers, Major League sources tell Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com. Los Angeles is targeting Clint Barmes, Aaron Hill and Mark Ellis to play second base and/or a utility position.

Juan Rivera’s new contract with the Dodgers could be worth as much as $9MM over the next two seasons, according to Hernandez. The outfielder is guaranteed $4MM in 2011, with a $4MM option or $500K buyout for 2012, and he can earn as much as $500K in each of the next seasons depending on his number of at-bats.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

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When the Dodgers get new ownership will Ned finally be able to come in from the cold?

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by Smoke on the Water on Nov 10, 2011 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

$9M richer, informant unmasks himself

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9QRU8C02.htm

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Please sign all three of them.

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by 49er16 on Nov 10, 2011 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Wrong, Joe. In a lot of ways.
But I will say that I am sickened, absolutely sickened, that some of those people whose lives were fundamentally inspired and galvanized by Joe Paterno have not stepped forward to stand up for him, have stood back and allowed him to be painted as an inhuman monster who was only interested in his legacy, even at the cost of the most heinous crimes against children imaginable.

Shame on them.

http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/11/10/the-end-of-paterno/

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by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 4:22 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah

he’s wrong on this.

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I love Pos

But he’s too close to the situation because of the book he’s writing

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by DFARowand on Nov 10, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

The key flaw in his reasoning

is that one bad decision can ruin a life of goodness.

See Benedict Arnold.

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

this strikes me as more than one bad decision

Like JP I do not know the facts, but I have an opinion on the likely shape of the facts, and they do not look good.

by wcw on Nov 10, 2011 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

True

but the key decision is the one he made in 2002.

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by CalBear949 on Nov 10, 2011 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Or 1998.

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by jponry on Nov 10, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

There seem to have been entirely too many people who knew about this for Paterno not to be one of them

Especially given the way he quit abruptly in 1999.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly

I think he’s too close to the situation and he’s honestly not looking at it clearly.

We don’t know anything but I feel like it takes an awful lot of suspension of disbelief to come out of this with Paterno not looking pretty bad.

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by jponry on Nov 10, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with this, basically. Have a rec, sir.

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by free f.p. #14 on Nov 10, 2011 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe he's a bad person.

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by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

NO U

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe he is… or maybe he’s a good person who made a horrible, terrible mistake of not acting when he absolutely should have. How you choose to view it isn’t all that important so long as you acknowledge the terrible harm he caused by not acting and that what his decision not to act was a terrible, morally reprehensible choice.

I do worry that if we just label him a “bad person” that somewhat trivializes the choice that he made. To think that only bad people do bad things, it seems to me, might make people less vigilant in making sure they’re doing the right thing in their own lives.

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by Smoke on the Water on Nov 10, 2011 6:12 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I do worry that if we just label him a "bad person" that somewhat trivializes the choice that he made. To think that only bad people do bad things, it seems to me, might make people less vigilant in making sure they’re doing the right thing in their own lives.

Speaking as a bad person, this is correct.

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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe he’s a good person who made a horrible, terrible mistake of not acting when he absolutely should have.

That would make him a bad person, to me at least.

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Nov 10, 2011 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Have another rec.

We’ve all done good and we’ve all done bad. Sometimes the bad stuff, rightfully, overshadows everything else, but it doesn’t mean the rest of it never happened.

Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian

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by Ceora on Nov 10, 2011 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

This is irrelevant

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 4:28 PM PST reply actions  

i did

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by son of ggf on Nov 10, 2011 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

,

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man

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by operation carrot on Nov 10, 2011 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

This I like.

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by Natto on Nov 10, 2011 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I think this could be a bad weekend for Bay Area football fans

I could easily see 3 of the 4 teams losing (only Cal I could see winning).

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by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 4:30 PM PST reply actions  

lol cal winning

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
can of corn

by jctGamer on Nov 10, 2011 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I say this as a Cal fan:

Cal does not deserve to go to a bowl game. (winning would make Cal bowl-eligible)

by WhatsAMataHari on Nov 10, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss the Cal I grew up with in the '70s

The Cal whose football team sucked, but where tuition was peanuts and the education world-class.

You don’t want to know how cheap my father’s MBA there was.

by wcw on Nov 10, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Please don’t tell me. It makes me want to commit violent acts.

by WhatsAMataHari on Nov 10, 2011 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

wanna hear something funny?

In the ‘70s, they called the UC system ’the house that Reagan wrecked’ because in the ’60s, it had beeb even better.

Now that just makes me want to break things.

by wcw on Nov 10, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

had beeb?

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
can of corn

by jctGamer on Nov 10, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

The BBC.

Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.

by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

It's not like the UC system is unique in this regard, though

Colleges in all states and at all levels are getting more and more expensive, and continuing to price the middle class out of higher education or saddle them with ridiculous student loans to repay for decades.

/somehow got out of Cal only $6k in debt

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

::Checks bank account.::

::slams head into table repeatedly::

::sobs::

::sells kidney to pay off student loans::

by WhatsAMataHari on Nov 10, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

some guy in China sold his Kidney for an ipad2

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
can of corn

by jctGamer on Nov 10, 2011 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

ipad3?

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

That education bubble has GOT to burst someday…. Particularly for law school.

Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Nov 10, 2011 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I have 150K in student loans after going to Cal in state for undergrad and law school.

So wrong.

by WhatsAMataHari on Nov 10, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

That actually sounds kinda cheap.

Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Nov 10, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

okay

relatively cheap

Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Nov 10, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, that is really only law school. I got through undergrad without loans.

by WhatsAMataHari on Nov 10, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

but you'll make that back first year out right

i mean that’s what they promised

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
can of corn

by jctGamer on Nov 10, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Well……not if you count taxes and living costs.

But the starting salary is pretty good if you get a big-law job.

by WhatsAMataHari on Nov 10, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Boalt and even Hastings might be worth the tuition. Most law schools.. aren’t.

I did undergrad without loans.

by wcw on Nov 10, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Hastings doesn't have the greatest reputation.

I think it’s probably worth it, though.

Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Nov 10, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Used to be a middling top-twenty kinda place for people who wanted to practice. Has that changed?

by wcw on Nov 10, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

~40 last I heard. The word of mouth is poor.

Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Nov 10, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Things have changed for the worse, I guess. When a buddy got waitlisted at Boalt, Hastings was her safety. She went, hated it and dropped out. But at the time going was an adequate idea. This was maybe 1990.

by wcw on Nov 10, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

(Wiki rankings are around 30)

by wcw on Nov 10, 2011 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

(The intertubes inform me that in the early ’90s, USNWR had Hastings at 19-23.)

by wcw on Nov 10, 2011 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe it was ranked around 40th when I went there (early 2000’s). That’s still considered top tier and the third best law school in the area (after Stanford and Cal).

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Nov 10, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes. Unless you count UC Davis, which is in the mid 20s

by WhatsAMataHari on Nov 10, 2011 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

huh, I thought Hastings was rated higher. Maybe Davis has improved or I just misrembered.

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Nov 10, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

UC Davis has improved a lot in the past ten years or so.

by WhatsAMataHari on Nov 10, 2011 5:10 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Generally, if you get into the top 14 schools it is 100% worth it

The odds drop off after that

The ranking generally goes:

Yale
Harvard
Stanford
Columbia
Chicago
Berkeley
NYU
Michigan
U Penn
Virginia
Duke
Northwestern
Cornell
Georgetown

by WhatsAMataHari on Nov 10, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

So do well on your LSATs, kids

Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Nov 10, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

The median GPA range for those schools is 3.45-3.96
The median LSAT score is 166-176

by WhatsAMataHari on Nov 10, 2011 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Some say top 14

some say top 20. Honestly, I’d never heard of the top 14 thing until I started going to the No. 15 ranked school (UCLA). I was a little pissed at this new arbitrary cutoff that managed to position itself right there.

It really all depends on if you actually want to be a lawyer. If you do— go for it. If you don’t, but just think it’s a good, safe job where you can make good money, you should think twice. It’s not a great market right now and I promise you there are better, easier ways to make more money out there.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Nov 10, 2011 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree the 14 thing is stupid, I was just repeating the so-called “conventional knowledge.”

Anywhere in the top 50 or so is probably fine. But your odds increase exponentially the higher ranked the school you go to. Which is silly but seems to be the way it works.

by WhatsAMataHari on Nov 10, 2011 6:20 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

oh absolutely

Just pointing out that the conventional knowledge of how deep that top tier is seems to shift around somewhat. But you’re right in that the higher up the list you go, generally the better off you’ll be.

There are exceptions to that in some places… for instance, geographically, if you want to live and work in CA, you might be better off going to a slightly lower ranked CA school rather than something higher up on the East Coast (say, USC over Duke). And some schools have better connections to various legal specializations. But overall, the higher up the list you are, the better your chances for a “Biglaw” job.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Nov 10, 2011 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

You’ve told me good stories about those prospects! I’ve heard other stories less good. Take it and run if you can get it!

Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Nov 10, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

This is why I'm so hesitant to go to law school

I’m thinking of just seeing where I can get in and jumping ship if I don’t get into anywhere in the top 20, but even then that’s still a lot of money and effort invested into that.

And that’s not even getting to my ultimate fear of graduating, being in debt and then realizing I hate my job.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

just be an engineer like so many of us

and slave away for that steady paycheck!

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
can of corn

by jctGamer on Nov 10, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

But I'm white!

automatically disqualified

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Technical writer.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

They are playing Oregon State at “home”.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Cal hasn’t beaten Oregon State in forever. Even when they were sort of “good” they lost to Oregon State.

by WhatsAMataHari on Nov 10, 2011 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

AURGHDSFGJGHGHHH GOD DAMN THAT GAME

No. 1 rank is theirs for the taking and they completely fuck it up. I was so angry over that one.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck Kevin Reiley

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
can of corn

by jctGamer on Nov 10, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Don't remind me.

The hope was awesome. The comedown was painful.

by WhatsAMataHari on Nov 10, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

At least after that they had the decency to stop even getting our hopes up.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I imagine the feeling was like taking heroin. I’ve never been so angry after a sporting event before or since.

Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Nov 10, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel good about the Niners' chances

I am terrified as a Stanford fan. At least they got here undefeated… in some way, I was more worried that they would screw up their once in a lifetime chance before the test really came. If they lose this one because Oregon just beats them with the kind of speed that the Stanford defense has a hard time defending, I can live with that. It will hurt, but I always kind of knew it was a possibility.

But lord… if they win. My God… that would set up the biggest month and a half in the history of Bay Area college athletics. That would potentially set up Andrew Luck to be remembered as the greatest QB in Stanford’s history, and at least among the pantheon of all time college greats. And it would be happening at Stanford… a program that was a laughingstock just 4-5 years ago. And was generally mediocre, for a long time before that.

I have no delusions about Stanford morphing into a perennial national title contender. I’d love it if David Shaw could keep the team in the hunt for Pac-12 Championships, year in and year out. But man, in some ways that makes this year all the more exciting, and this weekend all the more potentially damaging for my health… the Cardinal literally has one shot at this. That’s probably going to be it. And they’re playing a team that’s almost certainly more talented than they are this week and happens to be a matchup nightmare. But Stanford has the better OL, they have a grind it out style that could keep the ball out of Oregon’s possession for most of the game… and they have Andrew Luck. This really is his moment… hopefully it’s the first of many down the stretch, but there are no guarantees.

And I apologize for how long that was… combination of being really nervous and being stuck in a tremendously boring 2 hour class.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Nov 10, 2011 6:24 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Unfortunately, Stanford’s defense has looked shaky of late. Combine that with the injuries and I think that Oregon will win, which is a shame.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Like I said, I’m terrified of this week. Stanford’s only hopes are that 1) they have the offense to stay with a team in a shootout, 2) they play Oregon at home.

I wonder if Vic Fangio would be willing to come back for just this Saturday to call the defensive plays? Couldn’t hurt.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Nov 10, 2011 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

OK

Go the opposite of me if the first game is any indication.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

hey y'all

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Nov 10, 2011 4:59 PM PST reply actions  

Tim Flannery wants Andres Torres back in San Francisco next year.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 10, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

and hey!

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 10, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

It’s more personable than “This is Dog.”

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 10, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

somewhat related

I want so badly to own insanity puppy:

http://www.quickmeme.com/Insanity-puppy/

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

bookmarked.

and barked.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 10, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Good evening!

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Your Grace,

Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter

by Murray, Present on Nov 10, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm gonna try making my wife call me 老爺 from now on

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
can of corn

by jctGamer on Nov 10, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

My mom calls my dad “lao xiu.”

Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter

by Murray, Present on Nov 10, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Bumgarner AND Romo bobbleheads!?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Nov 10, 2011 5:06 PM PST reply actions  

I really hope madbum's is expressionless

Either that, or FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Nov 10, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

feels like Friday

what’s everyone drinking?

Mark DeRosa , he had his moments.

by oldjacket on Nov 10, 2011 5:07 PM PST reply actions  

moonshine.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 10, 2011 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

elixir of demonslaying

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
can of corn

by jctGamer on Nov 10, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

lagunitas ipa

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Nov 10, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Sabes strikes me as more of a Hamm’s man

go rowand

by lincypoo i wuv u on Nov 10, 2011 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a Beam night, I think.

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"I never argue with people who say baseball is boring because baseball is boring. Except, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great."
-Joe Posnanski

by free f.p. #14 on Nov 10, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

fune fune fune fune

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Sweet tea. I kid you not.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Lagavulin.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Nov 10, 2011 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Just agua and coffee, so far.

by non sequitur on Nov 10, 2011 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

water

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm about to get a beer

but last I checked the fridge was full of Bud Light and Mike’s Hard Lemonade

Mark DeRosa , he had his moments.

by oldjacket on Nov 10, 2011 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Expecting PtB over?

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

RETIREMENT PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

leftover from a picnic

this stuff’s gonna be here until doomsday.

Mark DeRosa , he had his moments.

by oldjacket on Nov 10, 2011 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll call my dad. Should be no problem for him.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Your father is Pat the Bat?

Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.

by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess it had to come out sometime. Yes. Oh, he says he’s all right with the gay thing, but I know he secretly wanted a son that would contract STDs from women, as a man should.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Some things are sacred. You non-hets just don’t understand.

by non sequitur on Nov 10, 2011 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s a lot of things I don’t understand about heterosexuality. However, apparently my fictional romances are engaging!

Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.

by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

One of my co-workers has found quite a bit of entertainment in my actual relationship failures.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoops, I meant to say, everyone likes Lark and Cristina and her evil grandmother.

Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.

by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Glenfarclas 12

proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.

by son of ggf on Nov 10, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm still at work. :(

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Nov 10, 2011 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

all the more reason to get started, kiddle :)

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by son of ggf on Nov 10, 2011 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I cannot dispute this, sir. :)

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Nov 10, 2011 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Tea

Green

Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian

I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.

by Ceora on Nov 10, 2011 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Heritage

Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"

by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I had a pint of Sierra Nevada Estate yesterday that was excellent! Probably just Wild Cherry Pepsi tonight, though :(

Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.

by Giant among Angels on Nov 10, 2011 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Also had a co-worker pickup 3 pints of Stone 15th Anniv. Imperial Black IPA for me. Sold out at a lot of places

Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.

by Giant among Angels on Nov 10, 2011 8:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't drink alcohol at home

So water.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t know yet. Going out around 8.

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
Golden Gate Beer Bars | Tweetybox

by troymccluresf on Nov 10, 2011 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Sweet berry wine

Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter

by Murray, Present on Nov 10, 2011 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Teacher In-service day tomorrow

by txgiant on Nov 10, 2011 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Meh, premature postulation. Cruzan rum & diet coke.

by txgiant on Nov 10, 2011 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Brew Kettle White Rajah IPA (Ohio beer)

WHY IS MELKY

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Nov 10, 2011 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Dr. Pepper

Ssory Doc, I'm on the Twitters
Craig James killed five hookers who were prostitutes before death.

by 49er16 on Nov 10, 2011 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Where the photon are they hiding the football game? or does it start at 6? Damn moving everything around all over the fleeping space/time continuum…

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 5:12 PM PST reply actions  

Wow, these Geico commercials are getting worse, I didn’t think that was possible.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Just caught the end of the NPR piece on Ramos. So sad.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 5:29 PM PST reply actions  

Audio in its entirety: http://www.npr.org/2011/11/10/142220835/major-league-baseball-player-kidnapped-in-venezuela

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

OT

Drew Remenda was on KNBR last night and he mentioned he was doing some hockey clinic in Mexico City a few years ago when he across a young man who was kidnapped and kept in a car for 2 days. The way Remenda phrased it, it was a way of life down there and other Latin American countries.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s like a growth industry in some parts of Latin America.

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

shill for a good cause

the Chronicle Season of Sharing fund is asking people to “like” their facebook page and will donate $1 up to 25k for each “like” until Thanksgiving. This is a terrific charity, as all the expenses are paid by the Chron, so 100% of the donations go to the recipients.

Here’s the link

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by son of ggf on Nov 10, 2011 5:42 PM PST reply actions  

/“like”
/“hide”

Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.

by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Did I miss anything interesting today?

Mr. F! | comics | art | Nattowear | McImage Directory | Confused? Check the McWiki

by Natto on Nov 10, 2011 5:48 PM PST reply actions  

Pretty uneventful.

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

nothing like yesterday…

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

What a terrible time to divest in pitchforks and torches.

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

not a whiff of Natalie Portman’s feet to be had

proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.

by son of ggf on Nov 10, 2011 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, oh, just remembered: no more Western black rhinos.

Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.

by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Aren’t something like a third of all mammal species and subspecies endangered or threatened?

by wcw on Nov 10, 2011 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Doh, why didn’t they kick a field goal there? duh.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 5:50 PM PST reply actions  

I’m guessing you will be giving up on football at 7:30.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

If I’m still awake, yeah.
Football on the radio hockey on the tele-ma-vision maybe.

Haven’t decided yet.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t the -ae ending in “Chrysopylae” indicative of plural? So, Golden Gates? Wouldn’t Golden Gate be “chrysopylos”?

Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.

by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 5:51 PM PST reply actions  

It’s Greek, though, not Latin. I don’t actually remember an -ae ending in Greek, so I don’t know what’s going on (and my poor grasp of Greek is really rusty at this point). Most Greek plurals that I remember are -oi or -es.

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Nov 10, 2011 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, that was a nice catch.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 6:18 PM PST reply actions  

So what's for dinner?

I’m having a pan fried boneless pork chop and a baked potato.

Adopted Giant: Mike Fontenot
He's like Grant, but fun size.
Occasionally, I tweet.

by TGOH on Nov 10, 2011 6:29 PM PST reply actions  

leftover pizza and beer

10/10

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Nov 10, 2011 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

What is 10/10

Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.

by Giant among Angels on Nov 10, 2011 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

pizza

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Nov 10, 2011 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

oh….

Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.

by Giant among Angels on Nov 10, 2011 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

random gif

Romping with my school chums in the fens and spinneys while the twilight bathed the hedgerows like a lambent flame.

by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2011 6:31 PM PST reply actions  

Awwwww puppeh

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Nov 10, 2011 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmmmm silly me, I told the Mr. that with all the injuries there was no way the Raiders win this game. At this point…I guess SD is worse than I thought they were.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 6:48 PM PST reply actions  

Oakland is dominating

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Nov 10, 2011 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I didn’t expect this AT ALL.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

The Chargers’ terrible personnel decisions in recent years have finally caught up with them. And Philip Rivers, while probably still a very good QB, is not good enough to singlehandedly carry a crappy team, a la Peyton Manning.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Nov 10, 2011 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey

Bonds is a free agent…

...but then 2010 happened.

by BeatLA55 on Nov 10, 2011 7:17 PM PST reply actions  

Oh here we go…
dum da dum dum…

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 7:37 PM PST reply actions  

I dont know if this is breaking or not but this reminded me of you guys

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man

Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half

by operation carrot on Nov 10, 2011 8:22 PM PST reply actions  

I know to which party I'm going

Also, anyone with half a brain knows JFK invites his own strippers.

by wcw on Nov 10, 2011 8:23 PM PST up reply actions  

403 Forbidden. This file removed due to violation of ImageShack Terms of Service or by user request reminds you of us?

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I see it.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

It was still be in your cache for when it was up. Now, it’s gone.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

was=must

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

What's the perfect food to have after 9:00

I’m hungry, but am paralyzed by indecision.

Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Nov 10, 2011 8:52 PM PST reply actions  

Cereal?

Pancakes?

Breakfast food, in other words.

Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian

I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.

by Ceora on Nov 10, 2011 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

cereal, it’s light and the milk might help ya sleep

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

But I have no cereal! /sobs

Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Nov 10, 2011 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Dinner food

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Because, you know, it’s dinnertime.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

a third for cereal

specifically honey bunches of oates

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man

Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half

by operation carrot on Nov 10, 2011 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

oatmeal might be good too, nice and warm…

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

microwave a brown potato

cover with butter and cottage cheese

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man

Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half

by operation carrot on Nov 10, 2011 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Bacon

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Winner.

This is always the right answer.

Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian

I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.

by Ceora on Nov 10, 2011 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Like

What is the last name of the actor who played Ren in the movie Footloose?

"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark

by iammclovin on Nov 10, 2011 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

You should snort a line of protein powder.

"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark

by iammclovin on Nov 10, 2011 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

You should snort a line of protein powder.

I’ll take “Directions completely misunderstood by Darryl Strawberry” for $500, Alex.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 11, 2011 12:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Popcorn. It’s the perfect food any time, but particularly after 9:00PM

"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." – Tallulah Bankhead

by edna ferber on Nov 10, 2011 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

mac and cheese

always a winner

The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.

by slapsy on Nov 10, 2011 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

make on of these

fast food lasagna

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man

Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half

by operation carrot on Nov 10, 2011 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

so, Norv Turner has the look of someone about to get fired

proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.

by son of ggf on Nov 10, 2011 9:02 PM PST reply actions  

The 49ers should hire him again.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

if the niners former head coaches assumed their former roles we could a pretty amazing staff

nolan as dc
turner as oc
singletary as that guy to get lazy pieces of shit to starting playing football
jimmy raye as parking attendant

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man

Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half

by operation carrot on Nov 10, 2011 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

uhhhh

i think i’ll just keep fangio.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Nov 10, 2011 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Skyrim time!!!!

Woooo!

extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."

by Badly Browned on Nov 10, 2011 9:03 PM PST reply actions  

so excited!

I pre-ordered, but from a store that doesn’t open til 10 a.m. I feel like an idiot.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Nov 10, 2011 10:11 PM PST up reply actions  

No midnight launch?

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by Natto on Nov 10, 2011 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I Just got back from a 12:05 Walmart purchase!

by Daver321 on Nov 10, 2011 11:19 PM PST up reply actions  

wtf?!!

6 more mins to install? I want to play NOW!

by Daver321 on Nov 10, 2011 11:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I know

seriously frustrated at my lack of foresight…

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Nov 11, 2011 12:17 AM PST up reply actions  

OK, I kind of want it.

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by Natto on Nov 10, 2011 10:42 PM PST up reply actions  

skins is such an insane show

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man

Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half

by operation carrot on Nov 10, 2011 9:33 PM PST reply actions  

Sportsphone 680 had Romo and Wotus on today. Wotus pretty clearly likes walks. He must be very disappointed most of the time.

by Hyoton on Nov 10, 2011 9:43 PM PST reply actions  

No wonder he’s not getting any managerial interviews, no one hires a cutter.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 11, 2011 12:30 AM PST up reply actions  

My favorite hockey player name Kyle Clutterbuck….

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 9:44 PM PST reply actions  

It would be so easy to say Clusterfuck.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s what we call him, but I’d hate to hear the announcers mess it up and then get in trouble.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

what about Coach Wolf Stansson

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man

Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half

by operation carrot on Nov 10, 2011 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

yay Sharks!

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Nov 10, 2011 10:12 PM PST reply actions  

When Ben said he super did Model UN in high school, I made the Aziz Ansari face

He’s pretty much the coolest fictional character ever.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 10:13 PM PST reply actions  

This might as well been written in Greek because I have no idea what this is.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Nov 10, 2011 10:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess it’s pretty incomprehensible to the uninitiated.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Who do you think wins that war? I think Finland’s lions would end up being the margin of victory for Denmark.

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

How can Peru win? It doesn’t have tides.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

That was by far the most realistic depiction of Model UN I've ever seen

The scene where Denmark decides to merge with Russia and China, leaving Peru’s name off the list? 100% true to reality. Every time you represent a small or medium-sized country in a large group and you try to make a resolution with other similarly sized countries, some douchebag will take the resolution that you all wrote together and decide on his own to merge it with the resolution that Russia and China are making. That douchebag gets his name up on the list of sponsors of the resolution along with Russia and China; you get nothing, but you get to hear Russia and China be assholes about it. Sometimes the United States will take the spot of either Russia or China, but usually it’s those two. This happens every time.

That the writers recognized this and got this right is incredible. I can’t believe that a show like this is really on network TV.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 10, 2011 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I really appreciated Ron’s reaction to the Model UN.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Nov 11, 2011 12:19 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s the best.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Nov 11, 2011 12:36 AM PST up reply actions  

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