Late Night Overflow Thread
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Forgive me if this is breaking: John Shea's douchebag article from yesterday
The point is that it could signal the start of a new era of Giants baseball, with or without Carlos Beltran.
We’ve heard from the Giants for years about one day getting younger, faster and more athletic, and perhaps that day is coming.
It’s called getting cheaper, Shea.
Getting younger is usually a euphemism for rebuilding mode. The best teams are usually the ones with the best players, not the youngest. From my own observations, the best teams usually have a good mix of veterans and youth.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Nov 10, 2011 12:51 AM PST reply actions
Yeah
But for a few years the Giants were uniformly old. What with Winn, Finley, Roberts, Alou, Bonds, etc roaming the outfield.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 12:58 AM PST up reply actions
I think it's kind of funny
That the Giants have paid so much lip service to getting younger, faster, and more athletic over the years, and even drafted a slew of extra-speedy outfielders with suspect bats, yet the actual position prospects they’ve graduated who lock down roster spots are either plodders (Posey, Sandoval) or ought start acting like plodders (Nate “17 for 31 career stolen base attempts” Schierholtz).
Brown looks like he’s got a shot to break the mold, but he’ll need to tighten up that CS%.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Calling Nate a plodder is kinda silly.
That said, the “youth movement” has been really, really overstated the past few years. The 2010 lineup was not exactly the makings of a multi-year dynasty (although having Buster and Pablo at least meant there were/are two pieces to build around).
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by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 6:50 AM PST up reply actions
I think Bhaakon was saying Nate should act like a plodder (as in not try to steal) because of his crappy CS%.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
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Nate should not be attempting steals often, it is true. This does not make him a plodder .
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 8:04 AM PST up reply actions
I agree. He is not a plodder. Although saying he should act like a plodder and actually calling him one are two different things.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Not a plodder
His “top speed” is pretty dang good for covering the outfield and scoring from first, but he doesn’t seem to have the acceleration needed to steal bases. That and lousy jumps. And, IIRC, some of his CSs were failed hit-and-runs.
So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.
I'm sorry if this is BREAKING
I just need to get this out of my system.
What a fucking disgusting night in the history of American sports. I am ashamed that I ever considered myself a fan of Penn State or its football team.
Full disclosure: my family is from Philadelphia, and two of my uncles attended Penn State for at least 2 quarters (one graduated). This is a disgrace.
You missed about 1250 comments on it in the last thread
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 1:05 AM PST up reply actions
I'm still waiting for the NAMBLA rep to show up and decry his firing.
Considering the weird shit that shows up on this site, it’s only a matter of time.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
I would love to lock those scum at San Quinton and allow those prisoners to do whatever they want to them.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Because they mumble too much.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Kinky
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 3:33 AM PST up reply actions
good for you
and it’s too bad to see people disillusioned by something, even if that disillusionment is little compared to the greater evils.
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"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 6:52 AM PST up reply actions
Ill be up
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 1:07 AM PST up reply actions
But I’m going to study in the common room so I have more room/less distractions. I’ll come check in in about an hour.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 1:08 AM PST up reply actions
Aaaaaaand I'm back
Half my floor just came in high off their asses and started talking about how they’re eyes are laser beams. I hate when people play stuff up. And I hate feeling like the responsible one.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 1:46 AM PST up reply actions
At least that would get me out of my midterm tomorrow.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 1:52 AM PST up reply actions
I am getting dangerously close to this idea. Every loud, annoying laugh.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 2:00 AM PST up reply actions
Now they’re singing “In the Jungle, the Mighty Jungle”
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 2:16 AM PST up reply actions
I’m probably not sleeping tonight. So, another mid-term on zero sleep. Yay.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 1:57 AM PST up reply actions
I thought your parents were strict?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 2:01 AM PST up reply actions
Correct
They wouldn’t let me go to sleep without finishing my homework, although even if I did they wouldn’t know.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
My parents would be super mad I didn’t start it earlier.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 2:14 AM PST up reply actions
They just think you spend 14 hours a day on homework and still don’t crack a 3.0?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 2:20 AM PST up reply actions
The last two times I did, I got a 92 and an 89!
Different class, granted.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 2:00 AM PST up reply actions
I guess since I’ve never pulled an all-nighter before a midterm, I shouldn’t give advice.
But I do do much better when I have more sleep.
Well
I can promise you I’m not going to do well if I don’t finish reviewing this study guide, which is pretty length. I’ve pulled 5 or so all-nighters in the 2 months we’ve been here.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 2:06 AM PST up reply actions
“Impressive”
And yeah, I read it a few times a day, try to figure it out.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 2:21 AM PST up reply actions
hang in there dregarx
I never did that once in 4 years of Cal and 3 years of grad school. As long as you’re not in the Environmental Design program, no one should have to.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 6:53 AM PST up reply actions
I did it a few times at Cal, but it was my own fault each time.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Nov 10, 2011 6:55 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, except for the Architecture and Enviro programs I never heard a story that wasn’t somehow avoidable.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:20 AM PST up reply actions
I was always too afraid of getting flunked out of school to do anything like that. I was on scholarships and grants and who knows what all else financial aid stuff, plus I had had to fight just to be allowed to go to college.
Damn blue collar family.
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
that too
Like dregarx said, I don’t do my best work in the last 8 hours before something is do. And my mom was working a crummy job and (I found out many years later) basically sending me everything. Not my money to waste.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:33 AM PST up reply actions
Pretty much this
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 8:28 AM PST up reply actions
Joe Posnanski's book is going to be really topical
@MarkMaddenX
Mark Madden
Don’t believe this can get worse? Give it 72 hrs. People really digging into Second Mile. Even more shocking revelation is ahead. Yikes.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Sent this in an email to my dad this afternoon (before Paterno was fired)
In July Joe Posnanski moved to State College to write a book about Joe Paterno. In all likelihood, it would have been a feel-good retrospective on one of the great coaches in college football history, a celebration of a career that would, sometime in the near future, be coming to a close.
That book, of course, will never be written. Posnanski is staying in State College and is still writing about Paterno, but due to the horrifying situation unfolding in State College, one suspects the book he will write will be much different than the book he intended to write. He explains:
“I wrote just about everything I plan to write for a while about the Penn State situation here. I know there are people who believe that I have a responsibility to write more, to have an opinion, to come out strong, I know this because many, many people have written to tell me that in no uncertain terms.
I respect their opinion. But I disagree with it. The way I see it: I have a responsibility to write the best, most insightful and most honest book I can possibly write about Joe Paterno. That’s what I signed up for. I’m not backing down from that because of this awful, evil situation. I’m also not walking away from a life and a man. When something this horrible happens, it’s hard to hear yourself think — it’s impossible for me to hear anything. I won’t add to the noise. If you want to read instant and strong opinions about Penn State and Joe Paterno, I can assure you there is no shortage of howling there.”
It’s gonna be a hell of a book.
by free f.p. #14 on Nov 10, 2011 1:40 AM PST up reply actions
Skyrim!
Feed the Panda some bamboo
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Nov 10, 2011 1:34 AM PST reply actions
So would the headline for Wilson Ramos read:
Missing Wilson
What's great about BABIP becoming mainstream is now the fan never actually has to admit his team flat-out lost.
<3 Kanani Madison
in all seriousness, this is terrible. hope he’ll be alright
What's great about BABIP becoming mainstream is now the fan never actually has to admit his team flat-out lost.
<3 Kanani Madison
by giant4life83 on Nov 10, 2011 1:39 AM PST up reply actions
What a shitty fucking day for sports fans.
by free f.p. #14 on Nov 10, 2011 1:41 AM PST up reply actions
Today was the worst possible day for that to happen
It’s been completely ignored.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
I just saw it on yahoo
crazy and scary.
by Myemail21479 on Nov 10, 2011 7:30 AM PST up reply actions
Wonder if Sabean thinks Ramos is a good soldier
for going to Venezuela or a bad soldier for allowing himself to be kidnapped.
In all seriousness this is a horrible situation. Hope it ends well for him.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
Let's leave the Sabean hate out of what might turn out to be really tragic
As you said, it’s a horrible situation and could get a lot more horrible. If it does, comments like this will end up looking as asshated as the A’s broadcasters laughing at the guy in Texas who fell to his death.
So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.
Hi
I feel so out of it, I literally haven’t paid attention to this team at all this off-season for the first time ever.
So…what’s the breakdown so far? Is it another Sabean off-season?
That is cray-z.
We traded Jonathan Sanchez for Melky Cabrera, and we offered Willie Bloomquist something like $4.6 million for two years. He still turned us down.
So, yes.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 2:46 AM PST up reply actions
"Sources"
and we reportedly offered Willie Bloomquist something like $4.6 million for two years.
If it’s unamed sources telling the story, I’d prefer to not assume it’s fact
So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.
This is stretching your trust management views a little
This has been reported by multiple independent organizations.
It happened. And it was utterly moronic.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
But it was surely based on solid analyses and many, many unknowable facts that we will never learn but can rest assured that were very persuasive!
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 6:55 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe I missed it
But I thought it was reported by one AZ writer who had unamed sources and then every other “report” was just reporting what one this one guy reported.
So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.
Everything is awful
The Giants don’t want to spend a lot of money on a good player, but spending a lot of money on a lot of bad players is A-OK!
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Yay
I will be home in about 28 hours.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 3:01 AM PST reply actions
This guy
LoMoMarlins Logan Morrison
Ummm, happy ending massages duh! RT @VickyHud1 @LoMoMarlins Did you masturbate a lot in Taiwan?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 3:39 AM PST reply actions
what the fuck it's almost four
I’m done with a third of this assignment.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
LoMoMarlins Logan Morrison
Bigger d bag/ u or ronnie from JS? RT @theBillyHayes @LoMoMarlins bigger media whore,LoMo or Coach Guillen?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 3:47 AM PST up reply actions
He’s hilarious. So are Brandon McCarthy & his wife
http://twitter.com/#!/bmccarthy32
http://twitter.com/#!/Mrs_McCarthy32
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by troymccluresf on Nov 10, 2011 8:54 AM PST up reply actions
I’m just gonna skip Chem tomorow and finish this then. Good luck, Person.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 10, 2011 4:08 AM PST reply actions
Supposedly the Marlins are interested in Carlos Beltran now, although they’ve actually made Jose Reyes their number one target. It’s a huge location advantage for the Marlins if the Giants plan to sign either of those two, although it’s pretty obvious they have no interest in Reyes.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
by rxmeister on Nov 10, 2011 5:24 AM PST via mobile reply actions
they should sign both!
Then they have more salary to dump in the inevitable fire sale!
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 6:57 AM PST up reply actions
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I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Nov 10, 2011 8:56 AM PST up reply actions
I’m watching last night’s Psych. It’s about minor league ball. Heaven!
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
is that what that was?
We saw it while flipping channels and I couldn’t identify the ballclub. I was hoping it was the Tampa Stogies, but alas no.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 6:58 AM PST up reply actions
Fake team.
It was the “Santa Barbara Seabirds.” One of the players got called up to the A’s at one point during the episode. Danny Glover played the manager and Wade Boggs made an appearance.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
wow
and here we were complaining about the cruddy TV choices!
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:20 AM PST up reply actions
Wow so that thread blew up.
Was there some new revelation about Paterno or something?
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Oh he was fired. Wake up sleepy McCoven!
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Wait…students actually demonstrated on campus after he was fired. Apparently handegg is more important.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
HANDS OFF OUR PEDERASTS WHO ARE BUSY CONSPIRING TO EVADE VOLUMINOUS REGULATIONS ABOUT AMATEUR ATHLETE PAYMENTS TO FURTHER KNOWLEDGE AND ACADEMIC INQUIRY
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:02 AM PST up reply actions
nathanielkraft Nathaniel Kraft
Mark Madden just said on WEEI that reports coming that #Sandusky and Second Mile pimped out young boys to rich donors. #sick
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Disgusting.
If true, they should all be locked up.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
wow
what the fuck.
i’m also reading some speculation (conspiracy theory?) that Sandusky’s retirement in 1999 was directly related to the 1998 incident (and that Paterno had full knowledge of what happened). The reason they didn’t come forward in 2002? People would look up what happened in ’98 and realize that penn state had been continuing to harbor a child molester for 4 years.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
the idea that protecting the image of the university was more important to them
than making sure Sandusky stopped molesting children just makes me ill.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
If the trustees are serious about the action they took last night.
They ought to forfeit the game on Saturday and make public statement that hey are going to pay all employees for the time not worked and give the entire university community the opportunity to grieve for the victims, and pray/ponder/reflect/meditate for their well being and recovery.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
While I agree, I wonder if it would backfire and result in worse rioting
So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.
With this new rumor (not officially reported yet) if true,
Makes you wonder even more about why things didn’t come forward, why McQuery’s dad’s first reaction was “get out of there.” Why no one ever reported to police."
Something ironic about all this is that something similar happened with a Giants scout in the DR. That hardly made a ripple.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
Wow
Bill James is making an ass out of himself now in his mailbag. He’s saying that Paterno had no moral obligation to call the police and that he couldn’t call the police because he didn’t directly witness what happened. Wow.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
It’s so weird to see people just making excuse after excuse for someone who hid child molestation for years.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
And it’s not even like it happened once and he was trying to cover for a friend (which would be bad enough). This shit went on for how long?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Yikes. People are amazing
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Nov 10, 2011 6:45 AM PST up reply actions
The Giants offered Bloomquist $4.6 Million??!!
What possible explanation could there be? No, I don’t want to hear theories.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
One word
Sabean
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Nov 10, 2011 6:35 AM PST up reply actions
I know but like, how could… why would you… I don’t get it.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Sabean reality is different from the rest of us
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Nov 10, 2011 6:43 AM PST up reply actions
Ok but even then does the rest of the organization not even question him on moves? I’m pretty sure even Bloomquist knew that the offer was utterly ridiculous.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
That’s what I said. Bloomquist probably went with the Diamondbacks because he didn’t want to play for a team with a GM who would offer Bloomquist that deal.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
LOL
I just noticed that the difference in the offer was $800K. Isn’t that the same amount supposed saved by the Sanchez trade? I think this is the proof positive that the offer was made by the Giants. #maybeMaybeNot
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
I find it odd that a bidding war for Willie Fucking Bloomquist could occur in the first 10 days of November.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:12 AM PST up reply actions
that which cannot be known
The august cogitations of the inscrutable masters, whose infallibility is infallible and whose knowledge of unknowable facts is limitless.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:12 AM PST up reply actions
HE HAS SECRETS!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 10, 2011 7:26 AM PST up reply actions
Last night I had a dream that I was watching Willie Wonka in a race and gender studies class. It was fascinating.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
Gene Wilder or Johnny Depp?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Wilder.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Nov 10, 2011 6:54 AM PST up reply actions
Always.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Nov 10, 2011 6:54 AM PST up reply actions
Ugh
HardballTalk Hardball Talk
The Rockies and Braves are talking about Martin Prado http://dlvr.it/vTqds #mlb #hbt
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Bummer
He’s a good player.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
So far, the things I would have done differently from Sabean
The first move I’d have made in the offseason would be to go to the owners and request the money for Reyes. If they say no, that payroll must remain in the 125ish range, I immediately start cutting costs to make a major acquisition – either of Reyes, or of Beltran and Rollins, or Beltran and Furcal, or some combination thereof.
That starts with letting Lopez and Affeldt walk, and replacing them with minor league lefties making the minimum – Verdugo and Runzler.
It continues with trading Sanchez, not for any major league roster players, but for a marginal prospect and salary relief.
It further continues by NOT OFFERING WILLIE BLOOMQUIST ANYTHING and instead relying on the affordable options we already have in the organization to be our backups.
So far, that’s about 5 (Affeldt) + 4.5 (Lopez) + 6 (Sanchez) million in savings over the path we’ve pursued so far. 15.5 million in 2012 payroll… say, that sounds a lot like what Reyes would cost.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
This is exactly what I would have done.
And the only thing that I would guess even crossed Sabean’s mind to do was ask for more money. He might not have even done that.
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If I owned a team I would hire you as GM. We could sit and debate politics on road trips too!
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
if I were the manager
I’d bring a gun so I could shoot myself.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:13 AM PST up reply actions
Sorry no guns allowed. However, pie is available for all managerial staff.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I'll have a slice of Moose Turd Pie then
with extra hemlock.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:21 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t think we can get that catered. Can you come by my office later though? GiantPain and I have been discussing something and I want you to weigh in on it.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Can you come by my office and kick the chair out from under my feet? I’m looping the rope around my neck and over the steam pipe now.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:27 AM PST up reply actions
I would never let GP manage actual humans in that role under any circumstances (sorry GP). However, were I a GM I would gladly hire him to head up my analysis department and take what he says seriously.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 10, 2011 8:15 AM PST up reply actions
That makes sense. Keep him locked in the statz lair away from the humans.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I very much prefer having Lopez & Affeldt vs. Runzler & Verdugo, but I think they overpaid a few million.
I think everybody would. The risk to sign Reyes is worth it though IMO.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
This.
The thing is, it’s quite feasable that they could have signed Lopez and still made a good offer to Beltran had they followed the rest of GP’s plan.
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Oh my god
rj_mac RJ McNamara
WEEI Correspondent Mark Madden now reporting Sandusky’s charity The Second Mile would “rent” boys to “generous” donors. http://audio.weei.com/a/48513214/mark-madden-talks-about-the-penn-state-scandal-and-drops-a-new-bomb-about-jerry-sandusky.htm
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I wonder if this is donors to his Second Mile org or to PSU?
Will be very curious if it’s PSU…
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i'm seeing PSU.
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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
If that's the case...
I think this has potential to get much, much more uggly.
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we need to reserve judgment
until we can tell how many NFL draft picks PSU produced during this time. Please keep focused on the important.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:15 AM PST up reply actions
The frightening thing is there are people out there who think this way
and will flip news vans and throw rocks at reporters to prove it.
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mark madden was speculating on Sandusky
in April
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Yet, Sandusky was still hanging out in the PSU football facilities last week. Ugh.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
THEY DID EVERYTHING THEY COULD DO!
JOE PATERNO HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW SANDUSKY TO BE ON CAMPUS! HE COULDN’T HAVE DONE ANYTHING MORE THAN HE DID!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
AND DIDN’T EVEN HAVE A MORAL DUTY TO DO ANYTHING.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
he dialed the phone, dude
what more do you want?
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"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:16 AM PST up reply actions
that’s one of the problems with American society right now tho isn’t it? Nobody understands morality or what a moral obligation is….[not going to say duty]
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srsly
Even if I were going to rely on the phone call I made, when the guy was still around and uninvestigated, I’d certainly have asked my supervisor “hey what the hell happened with that thing I told you about”.
And that said, I’m glad I’ve never had to make that kind of a call about a coworker or friend.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:38 AM PST up reply actions
That entire program should be shut down while law enforcement does a thorough investigation.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I wonder if, now that the arrests and firings have happened, more people will start talking because they’ll have less fear of retaliation.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
I hope so.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Won’t all these people thereby implicate themselves? Unless the prosecutor (um, the one that didn’t commit suicide) offers something, I dunno.
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"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:17 AM PST up reply actions
They wouldn’t necessarily have done anything criminal, unless they obstructed justice or something. I’m not clear if they’re mandated reporters or not. I don’t know about PA, but in CA, most mandated reporters simply have to make a report to a supervisor, not law enforcement or CPS. So, it could be someone told someone else, and technically complied with the requirements of the law.
I’m sure the prosecutor would make deals, also.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
I don’t know about universities in CA but I think with school districts it’s mostly the certificated types and not the classified (janitor, lunch lady, etc.). And they have to call the police and CPS and whoever. There’s even a different hotline to call to get anonymous advice about whether you are required to report.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:25 AM PST up reply actions
You’re right, I was totally wrong. Making a report to an administrator is not a substitute. I fail at my job.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
it's ok
the missus is a school psych, and she is horrified each year how many school employees don’t know their obligations.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:34 AM PST up reply actions
There’s a provision where two employees can mutually agree that they’re both going to make a report. Typically, in my districts, non-administrators report to an administrator and they agree that the administrator will report. I think that’s what I was thinking of.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
makes sense
although after this mess I don’t know I’d rely on anyone else. But I’m nervous about those kinds of things.
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"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:39 AM PST up reply actions
You’d have the obligation to follow up and make sure they actually called. Maybe just better to make the call yourself. Administrators typically have all the right forms and more knowledge of how to make a report, so it’s sometimes easier to have them handle it, so long as they actually do.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
I think once someone starts the sirens blaring folk are ready to step up.
We had a similar problem with mandatory reporting in my mother in law’s care facility; all the employees there did nothing and the regular nurse and doctor didn’t report either; we were lucky a different home care nurse came out who blew the whistle on the whole mess.
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"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:43 AM PST up reply actions
Certificated and classified personnel who saw the incident must be the ones who call and file the report with CPS. If I recall correctly if it’s a family member you call cps if not you call the cops. In either case CPS is usually very very helpful once you can actually get them on the phone.
But in CA anyway the person that saw the event or heard the child say “my mommy smacked me in the head” is the one who makes the call. You should tell your supervisor, especially if the child has siblings at the school because there may already be an open CPS file.
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other great conversations she has had annually
“A kid said he had a weapon with him, what should I do?” Yes, from teachers.
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"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:40 AM PST up reply actions
Right?
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
yes
but of course suicide is not an uncommon occurence.
They figured out that the last phrases he googled were things like “how to destroy hard drive”. That would be the hard drive they pulled out of a river.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:36 AM PST up reply actions
Still sounds fishy (pun intended).
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Plus if he googled how to destroy a hard drive why would he throw it in the river?
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
result 1
“throw in river”
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by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:43 AM PST up reply actions
and that was back in the computer dark ages … he shoulda just installed Win’95 on the thing and let “registry” take care of the rest…
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Found this from Tuesday...
In July this year, Gricar was officially declared dead, though Weaver said the investigation into his disappearance is ongoing and new leads continue to emerge.
Weaver said that though everyone has a personal theory about what may have happened to Gricar — from suicide to foul play — there has been no evidence to support any one of them. The idea that the disappearance could be linked to the Sandusky investigation, Weaver said, is “highly doubtful.”
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yeah
kinda hard to depose the guy now.
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"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:51 AM PST up reply actions
I wonder if it’s possible that the dude was so upset at what he found out [haven’t read the article] so disillusioned at the results of his investigation that he just decided he couldn’t bear to live anymore.
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That's possible.
It’s also possible he was killed and put through a meat grinder if we have a guy pimping 10 year old boys.
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Doesn't it seem more suspicious today
than it did two days ago?
I mean they’ve never found a body! How do you kill yourself and perfectly dispose of your own body?
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You got it all wrong.
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apparently so
the prior assigned one investigating Sandusky.
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"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:35 AM PST up reply actions
I heard a radio interview yesterday with someone from Yahoo
I thought that was outragous because 24 hours ago I didn’t think this was a systemic problem. I thought it was one sick and evil person and a handful of people who acted irresponsibly.
Now I believe there is a possibility that this goes far deeper into PSU and that knowledge of exactly what was going on was wider spread than we are seeing at the moment. If there is any more evidence to that, I would get in line behind you. As it is I think they should voluntarily forfeit Saturday’s game for the good of the community and the vicitms, and maybe the remaining games as well.
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Sorry, need to clarify
I heard a radio interview yesterday with someone from Yahoo
…who suggested this as well. At the time…
I thought that was outragous because 24 hours ago I didn’t think this was a systemic problem.
Somehow I went all Rick Perry on that transition and my post was a bit confusing.
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that's the thing
think about the length of time these things went on, at a major university. That’s a lot of eyeballs.
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"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:18 AM PST up reply actions
It sounds too awful to be true, but then again, so does the idea that a child molester got away with being caught raping children multiple times.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
There was more than one incident that was witnessed?
I know there is an assumption that this was ongoing, but is there evidence that anyone knew it was an ongoing problem?
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The Grand Jury testimony says that a janitor walked in on another incident. I’m not saying that Paterno knew about this one, but it was another time someone saw him doing this and nothing happened.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Apparently, even after he was told he couldn’t bring kids on campus anymore, he showed up at a practice or game with an 11 year old.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
It was for charity!
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Nov 10, 2011 7:18 AM PST up reply actions
I think...
One witnessed in about 2002. The other one in 1998? was a victim’s mother coming forth to Penn State telling her son’s story. This earlier one was probably why Sadowsky retired in 1999.
If it's not true then this is an extremely irresponsible thing to say on the radio
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Yes…and as MrsO pointed out the other day…get his kid outta there too.
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Good morning, folks
Happy Friday for those with tomorrow off. To the rest of you lot: LOL U!!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 10, 2011 7:31 AM PST reply actions
Yeah! LOLTHEM!
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Wheeee
Thank you, Veterans. You badass people save our lives, fight for our freedoms, and get us Friday off?
I love how much I love you.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I had to observe a focus group last night till 9
another one tonight about a hundred miles from home.
was planning on taking Friday off. Just now I was invited to a new biz meeting on friday afternoon.
Awesome.
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BOOOO!!!
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Nov 10, 2011 7:38 AM PST up reply actions
"Because screw Goofus"
Get inb line, pal
So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.
Last
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