The People vs. Bruce Bochy
by thehavenot on Oct 7, 2011 10:14 AM PDT
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PrintAll rise in the courtroom. The honorable judge Frisbee presiding. Up next on the docket is The People vs. Bruce Bochy.
The charges are as follows.
7 counts of player mismanagement.
-That the defendant did willfully and knowingly bury Brandon Belt on the bench, despite there being no better options, thus potentially hurting the Giants offense and Belt's development at the same time.
-That the defendant did willfully and knowingly start Aubrey Huff every game long past the time when it was apparent that he should not be starting, thus hurting the Giants offense.
-That the defendant did willfully and knowingly start Orlando Cabrera at shortstop knowing that he was a terrible hitter and after it became known that he was a terrible fielder.
-That the defendant did willfully and knowingly bench Andres Torres during his offensive struggles even though there were no better hitting options and he was the best defensive option by far.
-That the defendant did willfully and knowingly play Aaron Rowand.
-That the defendant did willfully and knowingly use the best reliever in the bullpen as a "ROOGY" far too often, keeping him in to face one batter.
-That the defendant did willfully and knowingly use reliever Javier Lopez against right-handers far too often and in the role that should have been Romo's far too often.
1 count abuse of veteran grit
-That the defendant did believe that "experience" was and is a tangible quality that can lead to wins.
1 count resource mismanagement
-That the defendant did make a bad offense even worse by keeping many of the best options on the bench so that players like Cabrera, Rowand, and DeRosa can play.
1 count Swedish Chef impersonation
How does the defendant plead?
Very well. I now open the floor up to arguments for the prosecution and the defense. After which, the jury will deliberate and come to a verdict.
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From an ownership perspective...
…88, 92, and 86 wins in the last three seasons and a World Series Championship are reasons enough to overlook things.
We hate Bochy. But that is because we micro-analyze. When looked at in terms of overall results, winning seasons, pennants, being “in that thing”, selling out 81 freaking home games…Bochy is pretty infallible.
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How did Bochy contribute to any of that winning?
Check out Catch-28.com, a blog about Buster Posey and the San Francisco Giants.
Yes, the people love Bruce Bochy. He’s a real drawing card.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Oct 9, 2011 5:02 AM PDT up reply actions
From a fans perspective
I think the players respect Bochy for the most part with the exectption of Huff who came to camp fat and recovering from his partying. If LaRussa was manager and Huff came in fat with his kay sir ra attitude the STL skipper would of made Huff walk the plank and grab some splinters on the bench.
Bochy does a good job with the pitchers but his game sittuations on not moving runners over and scrapping runs together for his stellar pitching staff hurt him last year. With that putrid offense moving the runners over and trying to get them in should of been a priority.You can’t fault him though for losing Wilson ,Sandoval, and others to injuries especially Posey and Sanchez to season ending ones.
Bochy kept looking for the three run homer in 2011 that never came like in 2010.
Overall I rate Bochy a B grade.
Money comes and money goes but CHAMPIONSHIPS live on forever .
by grabsumpinemeat on Oct 7, 2011 12:31 PM PDT reply actions
Are you implying that the guy who wrote this isn't a fan?
Also, “moving runners over” is dumb, if you’re talking about giving up outs to do it.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Whence . . .
. . . the narrative of Huff coming in “fat and recovering from his partying” save by implication from something that Brian Sabean—that ever-reliable, ever-truthful fount of verity aptly initialled “BS”—muttered? Linkies?
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Brian Sabean: Saving His Own Skin Since 1956.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Oct 10, 2011 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes. Because this team didn't make enough outs unintentionally. They should obviously try and make more.
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kay sir ra
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Oct 9, 2011 5:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Mostly agreed
The Huff thing is the one count I take umbrage with. Yes, he had a terrible year. But as the season wore on, and no one else was hitting (including, at times, Belt) there was no good reason to bench Huff considering his career numbers and 2010 season. If you sit Huff, Belt plays first, which is good, but that puts Ross and Torres as everyday players with Schierholtz injured. Both of those guys are good, and in hindsight were certainly better options, but on July 30th we had plenty of cause to believe that Huff was just as good, if not better, than other players. His playing time dropped into September as it became clear that wasn’t the case, but I really don’t have a problem with Bochy sticking with a guy who had a six win season, has some pretty nice career stats, and is locked up through 2012 at least, for as long as he did. Retroactively we can certainly say that benching Huff would have been a good move, but I don’t think it’s fair to stick him with that because I do think he made the right call at the time in continuing to play Huff.
Seth Rosin can hit the side of a barn with a baseball. From space.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
What would have been nice . . .
. . . would have been giving Huff a day off every now and then. Through all but September, he was pretty much Mr EverySingleFuckinDay. Men of superb ability in prime condition wear down under such a regime.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
agreed on this count.
It was pretty clear early on that Huff’s conditioning was off, and that he had nagging injuries. You have a perfect replacement in Belt, and yet you don’t use him.
"Clear"?
Could you elaborate on either or both of the conditioning or the “nagging injuries”? This seems to have become a self-sustaining meme, and I would like to know if there are any credible sources for it (Brian Sabean is, more or less by definition, not credible).
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Well there’s this from Bochy:
"He’s going to get back to what he did the year before, same workout routine, (same) trainer. Whether he dropped the ball last year and didn’t work out enough in the winter, he’s looking at all those things.
He was embarrassed. And he was humbled by what happened. So I think he’s determined to get back to where he was. The thing that’s important with Aubrey right know, he accepted full accountability for what happened to him this year and maybe not working as hard."
Though he’s oddly vague about it (“whether he dropped the ball?” “maybe not working as hard?” Either he did or he didn’t).
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Well, Bochy is not going to just come out and say, "Yeah, Huffy was lazy last winter and got fat."
Anyway, spilled milk and all that. But next year Huff had better show up to spring training with abs like Nate’s.
The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.
What I don’t understand is that if Huff was so out of shape, why did they continue to play him all season and expect him to break out? They certainly benched Panda for being out of shape in 2010 and were right to do so. They benched Torres for non production even though he was in superb shape. Why would you expect the out of shape player to suddenly get hot, and not expect the guy that’s in shape to get hot?
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
and
funny how not one word of that was breathed in the media all season, while Torres’ failure to get a night’s sleep was out on the porch the next morning.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Oct 9, 2011 5:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I seem to remember newspaper articles about him having minor aches/pains etc. around June or so…
I think it was even mentioned as one of the reasons he got a rare day off.
Conditioning wise, I remember people commenting on his lack of athletic form from some of the locker room pictures we saw or from the Franchise, I forget which.
It may be partially a revisionist story though, dunno.
not to mention that story about him chain smoking and chugging beers at the hockey game in Washington. If that’s an occasional thing no problem, but if he’s doing that kind of stuff on a nightly basis it’s going to affect his performance.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
TGWTWS
Therefore, Bochy is hereby pardoned for any actual or perceived managerial lapses.
by Louis XVI on Oct 8, 2011 6:51 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
For how long?
I mean I didn’t expect him to get fired one year after winning it all, but if he continues to mismanage the team, I think one more year ought to do it.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
That was my point above.
To ownership, he hasn’t mismanaged anything.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
You're probably right
But this case is called the People vs. Bruce Bochy.
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series! ...ormaybe a game or two.
Juding by talk radio
Bochy will soon be run out of town for not bunting and stealing enough and neglecting to have a set lineup.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
And why won’t he play Darren Ford?
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by howtheyscored on Oct 10, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
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