A Belated Thanks to Carlos Beltran
If I were to distill everything I write about baseball into one sentence, it would probably be "Knock knock, fart, Gremlins reference." If I were to distill it into a sentence I'd want my mom to read, though, it would be something like "Baseball isn't so much a story about the things that happen, but rather the order in which they happen."
Say, that's pretty good. Gonna put that on some Zazzle mugs and become a merchandising mogul. Be right back.
What I'd mean, though, is that Juan Uribe hitting a home run in a 7-0 game wouldn't be a story. It wouldn't be something you'd remember. Likewise, if Tim Lincecum got knocked out of Game 5 in the second inning, I think I would have been snarky when Edgar Renteria hit a home run. Oh, great, good time to be productive, jackass. Something like that.
Instead, it all came together at just the right time, in the right sequence, in just the right way. In 2011, it most certainly didn't. The Giants fell apart right at the trading deadline -- not a week or two before. Right after they gave up their top pitching prospect, the entire offense combined for 2.5 runs per game. Their shiny old acquisition got hurt right away. It was a mess.
So you might think the title of this post is sarcastic. It really isn't. Because imagine if Beltran had started his Giants career as he had ended it. He hit .378/.434/.700 in September -- he and Pablo carried the offense, and the team had its best run differential in any month.
Imagine him doing that with the Giants from the second he showed up. Pounding the ball all over the yard, keeping the Giants right behind the Diamondbacks. They could have entered September neck and neck with Arizona, setting up a fantastical finish.
Then imagine his August was his September. He hit .260/.288/.377. He walked thrice and struck out 17 times in 77 at-bats, hitting into six double plays. He got hurt.
That would be the narrative of the Giants' collapse. Ol' achy-breaky Carlos Beltran. Ol' Mr. Professor Not Clutch, not clutching the way he should have. If Salomon Torres and Felix Rodriguez had a baby it would have been a big deal in the medical world, sure, but I'll bet that baby would have worn a Carlos Beltran jersey when it went to not-clutch meetings at Not Clutch University.
It's not like that. Instead, Beltran showed the Giants what kind of hitter he could be. The Giants could use that kind of hitter, and they'll explore the possibility of re-signing him. The talk-radio set didn't turn on him. When the Giants were humming in October, Beltran was a big part of it. The blame for the collapse was spread evenly between injuries and the entire offense. Also, we were able to five-stage our grief far earlier and accept that the team wasn't going to repeat.
So thank you, Carlos Beltran. It's not like you had control over which months you were hot and cold, but because you did what you did, we don't have to listen or read a bunch of complete nonsense.
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Then imagine his August was his September. He hit .260/.288/.377. He walked thrice and struck out 17 times in 77 at-bats, hitting into six double plays. He got hurt.
That would be the narrative of the Giants’ collapse. Ol’ achy-breaky Carlos Beltran. Ol’ Mr. Professor Not Clutch, not clutching the way he should have. If Salomon Torres and Felix Rodriguez had a baby it would have been a big deal in the medical world, sure, but I’ll bet that baby would have worn a Carlos Beltran jersey when it went to not-clutch meetings at Not Clutch University.
And it may have made him easier to re-sign.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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I have a feeling the Giants wouldn’t have been interested. Part of his value is with the PR that the Giants are trying to improve.
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 5, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, Thanks for trying, Beltran.
Even if you always look like you would rather be in line at the DMV the whole time.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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I AM RITE GUD
Even if you always look like you would rather be in line at the DMV the whole time.
Ugh.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
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Anybody GIF when Crawford hit that home run and Beltran looked completely disinterested?
I rhyme with freak.
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by jctGamer on Oct 5, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
wow, more moisture pellets
looks like another soup day
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I love him and Panda back-to-back
Two swotch hitters with pop…it’s a beautiful thing, man
The thong is, it happened.
Swatches are so 1990’s!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
/swiss engineering meets european syling
I feel like I want to rage. Right now.
by fjm on Oct 5, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope he comes back too
He’s a good hitter.
And I’d hate to be without an adopted Giant.
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series! ...ormaybe a game or two.
Imagine if he could still play centerfield
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by natteringnabob on Oct 5, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
If you could have guaranteed me at the time of the Wheeler trade
That Beltran would have 180 PAs and hit .323/.369/.551, it would have made the trade a no-brainer for me. Unfortunately, even though he did that, we still sucked.
I still love you Carlos. I hope you come back, and I hope they sign another guy too, like you wanted them to.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
by GiantPain on Oct 5, 2011 1:19 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Adding Rollins and Beltran could probably be done for <100 million in total commitments.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I do not see the ownership approving both of them
one maybe, but not both.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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The question would be
whether Beltran would take less money to be on a winner.
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Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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Jered Weaver
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He has never been anything but an Angel. This is a different situation.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Jason Werth
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Which was one move out of millions of others.
That also seemed like Weaver saying he wanted to stay.
A guy who puts clauses that prevents teams from getting draft picks when he wants does not seem like the kind of guy who would be giving out discounts.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
ugh
getting draft picks when he wants
wants = walks
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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I still love you Carlos. I hope you come back, and I hope they sign another guy too, like you wanted them to.
DITTO!
Don't believe everything you think.
Re-signing Beltran
I hope the Giants’ top priority is for long-term retention of Timmy, Matt, MadBum, Panda, and Buster.
If there’s money after that for Beltran and more, great. But I would hate to see any of those other guys gone in three years because of it.
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It's sad we have no chance at re-signing him
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No, but when it gets really rainy out, the Giants will be SO prepared.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 5, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I hear they’re getting top of the lines umbrellas and rain gear
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 5, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Burberry !
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The Giants were humming in September
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Bumming in October.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 5, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Kazoos in November.
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The Beltran injury is one of the many What-Ifs of he 2011 season. As in what if he showed up hitting from the start and didn’t get injured and then spend a week or two recovering. Somewhere up there with What If Belt played more or What If Bochy Found Fontenot underneath his seat cushion. When he and Pablo got into a groove, one could actually think the Giants had a credible offense.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 5, 2011 1:25 PM PDT reply actions
I’m still kicking myself we somehow missed out on the Yunel Escobar sweepstakes.
by InTimmyWeTrust on Oct 5, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s because Sabean doesn’t text. All the young GMs get their deals done via texting, now.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Oct 5, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah but we have photographic evidence of him using a computer!
by InTimmyWeTrust on Oct 5, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked the move when it was made
I still liked it even when the Giants didn’t make the playoffs. The Giants needed offense and he was the best hitter on the market. Bummer it didn’t work out.
I wish they would re-sign him, but LOL RAINY DAY FUND.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 1:28 PM PDT reply actions
MAKE IT RAIN, LARS!
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by fjm on Oct 5, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I know that everyone makes fun of the Rainy Day Fund
but didn’t Sabean state that the ownership would up the payroll if it meant signing someone like Beltran?
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It's if they are targeting a specific player, so it's possible
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He said he could go to them and ask
But if they were going to approve an expansion of payroll, they probably just would have said that, rather than saying “come ask”.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I think some of the board members still have their egos bruised from Neukom’s lack of obtaining consent. The asking thing seems to me a power play. Sabean’s quote seemed to me that he has some indication that they would be open to uping the payroll.
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I think you want the team to spend a lot of money and are trying to rationalize a way that they will.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
No
I just think that the Neukom thing was more of a power play than about money. The board members wanted more say.
We’ll see what happens.
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We already know what will happen
The team has left no doubt where the payroll will be: the same as last season. Which means no Beltran and no Reyes.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
As I said on the Fanpost
I’d like to know if they’re counting Rowand’s money as salary next year or if they just feel they “ate it” as a sunk cost.
If it’s the latter, there’d be room to do something big like Beltran
The thong is, it happened.
I am not sure why they wouldn’t count it. It is still payroll.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess they could see it as a buyout.
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Except that they will still be paying him next year. I mean, why would you forfeit use of funds for a year?
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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
When they released Rowand, it sort of becamse deferred salary
They used to not count Bonds’ deferred salary
I’m not sure how the accounting works, but it’s kind of easy to imagine writing off the remainder of Rowand’s salary as an expense this year, especially when it could be applied to the mountains of cash they took in. I understand players under contract are considered “assets” and are depreciated. Once Rowand was let go, he might have been written off as a loss.
If they do that, it’s reasonable to not include him in go-forward salary projections.
The thong is, it happened.
This give me hope.
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Admittedly, I'm grasping at straws
But I don’t think it’s entirely unreasonable or out of the question
The thong is, it happened.
I can't help but think
That if this were true, they probably would have released him earlier.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
It's still a loss
Biting the bullet and just eating a contract takes major sackage. Prayng and hoping they could get some value out of him without having to eat all, or at least part of his contract is much easier.
The thong is, it happened.
The only problem is
They need more than just Beltran.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Well
a lineup of
Torres/CF
Sanchez/Fontenot
Panda
Posey
Beltran
Belt
Huff
SS
P
That’s a pretty good lineup.
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I wouldn't.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I’m not sure why they haven’t tried this already
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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
That would be a good move…but you would need someone to lead off.
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Exactamente . . .
who’s gonna leadoff? And besides, Nate is still a fourth outfielder. Great defensively but lacks power. If we can land Beltran and another bat I might trade Nate while he has some value. This was his career year.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 5, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
That "SS" is rather forboding
And it’d be pretty irresponsible to go into next year banking on Posey to 1) Catch 120+ games and 2) be an offensive force.
That, combined with decreased productivity to be assumed from Sanchez and probably mediocre production from Huff, and, likely, them not being willing to play Torres for whatever reason, makes that much less than a “pretty good” lineup.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Well, that and the fact that if they throw all their money at Beltran that’ll be pretty much it. Who’s going to play all the other positions they need. In a lot of ways, it makes more sense to get 2 or 3 better than average players than one great player
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 5, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d rather them sign Reyes than Beltran but Beltran is more realistic.
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Oh, Jose...
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
It usually makes more sense to get one great player, ceteris paribus
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
You cannot get 2 or 3 better than average players
For the price of Carlos Beltran. Probably. An average player is worth about $8-9M. I think Beltran can probably be had for $14M or so.
I am having Sabean/Vlad flashbacks
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I always thought Vlad said he wouldn’t play here and so the Giants were never in the mix and Sabean’s taking the hit for it ever since.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 5, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
We're not mad that he didn't get Vlad
We’re mad about his extremely stupid reason for not getting Vlad.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I have no idea what really happened
But it’s pretty tough for anyone with pride to admit the cute girl didn’t want to dance with you.
The thong is, it happened.
That's all well and good
But you don’t have to then go and brag about all the ugly girls you did the bump n’ grind with.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
by GiantPain on Oct 5, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
HAHA
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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Sabes would have made his life a lot easier if he said that they approached Vlad and he didn’t want to sign here.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
It was all kind of vague but my impression back then is that the Vlad thing was more hyped up by KNBR and columnists and that people were so excited about the idea of it it outraced the actual reality of it. When it turned out it wasn’t going to happen, everyone was pissed even if Sabean never really said they’d make a serious run at him.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 5, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree 100%
But afterall, his initials are “B.S.”
I think GMs feel tremendous pressure to be “doing something” based on the questions they get from the media and sabean might have just fallen into one those moments where it sounded better in his head than when he actually said it.
The thong is, it happened.
Sabean also has a tendency to get defensive.
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by Kitspool on Oct 5, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
win
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by natteringnabob on Oct 5, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
And I think Sabean
despite his very real mistakes, has been saddled with many many McGowan edicts.
Don't believe everything you think.
But then everyone has to stop whining when Crawford plays short and Stewart is backing up a still banged up Posey and there’s no leadoff guy
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 5, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
But like I say
I don’t think you can fill all those holes with $14M. If you think you can, say who you would get.
I’m not good at Rosterbating so I don’t know and find it pointless because nobody knows what’s going to happen (how many people saw Tejada coming?) I also have no idea what the Giants are going to do because I don’t think even they do. Sabean’s got one huge puzzle he’s got to piece together this offseason and do it knowing that he’s a year or two away from losing his pitching staff and every dream the franchise has of going on a long run of success.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 5, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
And in some ways . . .
if we can’t land a major league hitting SS, then why not go with Crawford and spend your money on Beltran and a respectable .240-hitting backup catcher? (Who that might be, I have no idea b/c the catching ranks are thin, but I can’t see us bringing Stewart or Eli after what we saw this past year.)
Don't believe everything you think.
Are you just ignoring Larry Baer's comments that payroll would be the same as it was last year?
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No. Sabean said the same thing about payroll. I was just talking about how Sabean added the comment about how the ownership may add payroll if it meant getting a specific player.
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Sabean says that every year
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
that money comes out of the “Tire Kicking Fund.”
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 5, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
My guess is that did mean spending the money to get a Beltran or Reyes but to do the usual dumpster dive if needed and late season trade as even from Magowan’s days, they always seem to magically find money in July and August.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 5, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Which, from a business standpoint, makes some sense
It’s sort of like a doubling down if you like your hand.
The thong is, it happened.
I liked the deal, but not making the playoffs out of it really stings
And I think we are going to miss Wheeler.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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Some of us already do. :(
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by kdl on Oct 5, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m pretty irrational about the whole thing, though, so maybe you don’t want to be in my line?
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by kdl on Oct 5, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Right, I come here for the rational.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
by bgunn on Oct 5, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I come here for the rations.
Can I have some more Beltran, sir?
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 5, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
It was the Orlando Cabdriver trade that mystified me.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 5, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't like it but I got it
Orlando Cabrera on the other hand…
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What is with this guy? I’m so tired of his bullshit.
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I only drink Ginger Ale when I’m on a plane.
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
You should get some on you way home today. It’s so good.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I always get Glenfiddich and Ginger Ale on my flights. MMMMM...
Also: I had ginger ale last night with dinner. Seared duck breast, with a black truffle/duck confit cassoulet, and a ginger ale.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
Glenfiddich and Ginger Ale??
I’ve had scotch and soda, but that sounds blasphemous…
It also sounds delicious though. I must try it.
I've got these tiny hands!
-Alex Smith
Ginger ale goes really well as a mixer for canadian whisky.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Oh yeah. Good stuff.
Although I’ve been on a bourbon kick lately.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Glenfiddich is not so good it can’t be used as a mixer, and I try and sleep on planes so crown/coke/xanax is not an option.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
I always had trouble sleeping right after doing coke.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 5, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I always had trouble shutting the fuck up after coke.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
If I’m honest, I had a lot of trouble not doing more coke after having done coke.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 5, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
This.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
Never did anything for me.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I usually do, too. With no ice.
While GF is ordering martinis and poring over 60 dollar bottles of wine. I am usually driving so I don’t imbibe.
Last night, though, they had ginger ale, so I pounced.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
My go-to non-alcoholic beverage when dining is usually tea.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
In his defense, I’m guessing the making amends is Step 8 of the 12-step program he believes in. OTOH, not sure why a MLB.com reporter needed to know anything about these conversations.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 5, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh shit.
I’m the worst about forgetting memes around here. Mea culpa.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 5, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Step 9, Guy.
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Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
Thanks for the correction, bub. ;-)
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 5, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I read that just a few minutes ago. What a sweet guy.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
I can’t help it, I like the damaged ones with the good hearts. LET ME FIX YOU, FIX YOU
I rhyme with freak.
I believe Hamilton is genuine. And I admire it. He’s our Leo McGarry.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
I bet you’d like him to be chief of your staff.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
by speckops on Oct 5, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm rec'ing this
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Nah. But I do think he and I would probably get along cordially.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
You just want him to introduce you to CJ.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 5, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
My dad and step mother enjoyed the West Wing quite a bit. I have never seen an episode in its entirety.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 5, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Something about the Giants’ (or perhaps, more accurately, their fans’) two main targets this year being Mets players always struck me as bad juju. I know that great players get stuck on crappy teams, but there’s something about the Mets that just scares me. Beltran getting hurt just seemed like an inevitability rather than an accident (SFinal Destination! [thank you With Leather]).
You know some team is going to give Reyes $150 million this offseason and he’s going to explode both hamstrings diving into his gold-lined swimming pool.
Still, now that he’s been a Giant more recently than a Met, some of that LOLMets-ishness will have worn off. We need hitters, and he’s a hitter.
I've got these tiny hands!
-Alex Smith
Should have gotten some

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
that has to be one of the top 5 worst cards ever.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
That and the fucking Bret Barberie card I kept getting in every. single. pack back in the early 90s.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
my MTGO account
has approx. 1894783975034 of the “lucky charms”
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
I think this is the champ
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
wow.
wow. And it was a rare.
And they reprinted it twice.
Wow.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
7/7. Banding.
Can’t even sac it if you don’t want it. Just taps. And deals damage to you and can’t even block.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
sorry 5/5. for 7.
It’s like the Barry Zito of MTG
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
well to be fair
in those days 5/5 for 7 was pretty standard, but still it’s pretty amazing that they thought banding was sooooo valuable that it was worth a card every turn.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
time walk when it dies!
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I’ve never played or understood Magic Cards.
You bunch of nerds.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
People judging magic player unfairly
Is it really a sin to be a magic player, or worse, to be really good at Magic?
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/08/my-okcupid-affair-with-a-world-champion-magic-the-gathering-player
I mean. This is Jon Finkel. This is the greatest magic player who has ever lived. We’re not talking about your local store joe schmo here. This is JONNY MAGIC, the single most decorated American player in the history of competitive Collectible Card Gaming.
If he couldn’t reveal to his date that he has played magic, who can? The man has earned over 300,000 dollars playing magic in his career for crying out loud.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
oh christ not this again.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
THE FINKELTRON
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Finkledate
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Google search
I have no idea if the list is right or wrong…I just liking reading the quotes in the cards
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2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
No
but sounds like fun…I live vicariously through others.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Actually
I did play the pokemon card game when it first came out.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
I didn’t realize ESPN showed the M:TG World finals.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
they did at one point
before poker blew up
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
those are called flavor text
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
please explain.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
The quotes don’t have any game play significance; they’re just there for flavor (nowadays the term seems to be “lore”)
oh
I see…
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
No
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
What about a third eye?
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
ha
their #9 worst card ever is now one of the top 2 or 3 cards from that set. Then again, it would have been pretty awful in 2004
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
How about when the Mets were in the NLCS
Would your jujumeter have been going off then too?
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Likewise, if Tim Lincecum got knocked out of Game 5 in the second inning, I think I would have been snarky when Edgar Renteria hit a home run. Oh, great, good time to be productive, jackass. Something like that.
One could certainly be snarky about Beltran and say that once the Giants were 9.5 games behind the DBacks, and their postseason hopes essentially dashed, is when he was most productive.
I still want the Giants to re-sign him, though, despite my misgivings.
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
How can you have misgivings? What difference does it make WHEN Beltran was productive? The dood can flat-out rake, Bro. Beltran/Sando/Posey would be as formidable a 3-4-5 as we’ve had in 10 years.
The selfish, bad chem. comments can go away. It’s not like the guy CHOSE to have a poor start in SF. If he had his way, I am sure he would have hit .500 with 20 HRs in a Giants uni.
That’s like saying Bonds was great in the regular season, but couldn’t perform in the postseason. The SSS makes the statement irrelevant.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
I translated this into proper Victorino for you. You’re welcome.
How can you have misgivings, bro? What difference does it make WHEN Beltran was productive, bro? The dood can flat-out rake, bro. Beltran/Sando/Posey would be as formidable a 3-4-5 as we’ve had in 10 years, bro.
The selfish, bad chem. comments can go away, bro. It’s not like the guy CHOSE to have a poor start in SF, bro. If he had his way, I am sure he would have hit .500 with 20 HRs in a Giants uni, bro.
That’s like saying Bonds was great in the regular season, but couldn’t perform in the postseason, bro. The SSS makes the statement irrelevant, bro.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Oct 5, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
LOL
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Not enough “lol’s”.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Oct 5, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
*Bro.
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Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
http://www.thefightins.com/danger-guerrero/phillies-high-shane-climbs-a-tree/
I've got these tiny hands!
-Alex Smith
Well
He did get kind of a front row seat.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I am not in the Beltran is selfish/bad chemistry camp
I have misgivings because I’m a pessimist at heart (despite last season), and because it’s possible that Carlos Beltran, like most other great players, plays better when the perceived pressure is off.
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
I can see that. My misgivings would be his health and ability to play RF/willingness to move to LF.
As far as his production and the selfishness/team chemistry stuff, this site is too full of intelligent baseball fans for those discussions to be in earnest.
And the $$$? LBH…It’s not our money, we shouldn’t care.
I would sign the shit out of Beltran.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
Oh, and people don’t “play better when the pressure is off.”
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Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
Really?
Didn’t half the Giants’ hitters admit in September that the (self-imposed) pressure was affecting their approach at the plate and everyone was trying to do too much?
It may be a lot of BS rationalization, but isn’t it possible there’s some truth to it?
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
I want to believe there is, e.g. Bonds before 2002, Burrell in his career. But, the SSS of “clutchiness and/or pressure” can create a false conclusion. When looked at over careers in a large sample, better hitters hit better.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
I agree with every about Cabrera
I mean, there was no indication at all that he would be a useful player. It was just stupid, and about as predictable a Sabean move as there ever was.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 1:41 PM PDT reply actions
Holy Shit
Mike Napoli had the highest wOBA in baseball this year amongst player with a minimum of 100 PA.
LOL Reagins. That’s how you lose your job.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Lets get crazy. Belt + Sanchez for Starlin Castro. I heard they aren’t super happy with him, and we could give them Type A plus a pretty good pitcher. Use remaining 25 mil or so a year on Pujols. Put Huff in left and let him go after next year.
LOLinup
Torres CF
Castro SS
Panda 3b
Pujols 1b
Posey C
Sanchez 2b
Shierholtz RF
Huff LF
P
When the Cubs get a new GM
The last thing he’ll do is trade away their a guy like that.
I've got these tiny hands!
-Alex Smith
Yeah
of all the guys on the Cubs roster…he’s probably the most untradeable.
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Hoping the Cubs are still unhappy with him
They would still get 1 year from Sanchez and 5 or 6 from Belt (not sure how that service time is accumlated)
If they were trading Castro, they would want pitching…probably MadBum
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Nah...
Don’t trade your marquee player right before moving into your brand new stadium.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 5, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Does there?
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Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 5, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
He didn’t say in which universe.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Jeff Nobody!
Joe’s little brother!
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Oct 5, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
He has many frens
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 6, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Heh, if only
But I can’t help but feel like Belt would really come back to haunt us.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Package!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
The guy we want is Hak-Ju Lee but . . .
he is a year or two away, by which time Timmy & Matty will be pitching for the Yankees and Phillies (or Red Sox).
Don't believe everything you think.
Fresno may not make the playoffs next year!
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Oct 5, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t like that outfield
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't say anything about a better infield
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed.
Shouldn’t we be rosterbating to Beltran, Crisp and Belt? Or something close to that.
I've got these tiny hands!
-Alex Smith
LOL Crispians
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Oct 5, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
The Crispy Critters are out in force.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 5, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Now this is some rosterbation. I’m in.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
If the Giants were getting hotshot SS
I would take Asdrúbal Cabrera
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
We already got our alotted Cabrera from Cleveland.
We chose poorly.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Daydreamin'
I think in previous years, Grant posted a lot of covet on that Cabrera and Votto before they had their breakout years at the MLB level. All wishful thinking, of course.
"Your curses do not compare to those of Houston fans or Detroit fans, and especially not to those of fans from the northside of Chicago. You are not Hamlet. You are Valerie Bertinelli. Your victim act is schlocky, and totally unconvincing. You fancy yourself tormented. You are merely insecure."
-- Scott Burton to Red Sox fans, 6/12/02
http://espn.go.com/magazine/burton_20020612.html
That's very creative and . . .
would love to do that. But there is NO WAY the Cubs let go of Castro. No way!
Don't believe everything you think.
/hugs Grant with zero emotion
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
One of those “all-arm no body contact hugs” complete with air kisses.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
It depends on the size of the meal. I usually like to wait 30 minutes to an hour though..
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Rosterbating is not “cardiovascular exercise.”
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
by bgunn on Oct 5, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
How does one…uh, accomplish that? A friend of mine needs to know.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
Practice. Lots and lots of practice. LOTS of practice.
Er…so I hear.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
My friend feared that would be the case.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
Tell your friend that I make no representations about the safety, veracity or effectiveness of these techniques.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 5, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll pass that along. Yes.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
that gag reflex is there for a reason, no?
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
I’m sure it is. But sometimes it’s a slight inconvenience.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
So is the thing where your muscles tell you you are unable to complete reps long before you are actually unable to complete them.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 5, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh my…. that Red Sox wrap thing that Grant tweeted a little while ago…
Just… wow…
Makes Ashkon look like [insert name of good musician here].
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
+1
KWC FOREVER!!!!
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
It’s all about the Snailface.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 5, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
oh hell, what Natto said…
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I must admit...
I didn’t make it through the whole thing. 30 seconds maybe?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
It took me a similar amount of time to close the tab for both videos.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 5, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
What about this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCPAVwX0vOw
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
From the Merc
2:10 p.m.: Cops sending robot into park restroom
Police are sending a robot into a restroom at Raynor Park, near the scene where a manhunt is under way for Shareef Allman.
R2 is having delusians of grandeur!
The thong is, it happened.
They should send in Robbie!
DANGER!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 5, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
They should send a robot into the playoff games to help the umpires.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
What’s Beltran doing working for the police?
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"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Oct 5, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
"A robot walks into a public restroom and says..."
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
LOL
TheFakeESPN The Fake ESPN
To everyone’s surprise, LeBron shows interest in Football, while Hockey seems to be a natural fit with just 3 periods.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
2 more periods than for most hoopsters /boom
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Picture of the Nexus Prime?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I hope they release it for all carriers in late October.
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Realistically I won’t have $$ for it until next year but yeah it’ll be nice to see what kind of specs it has once it does come out.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Well by next year
you should get the Galaxy S3 with a rumored quad core chip.
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Oh, there’s the rain we were supposed to be having all day.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Two hour commute?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Yeah with heavy traffic and rain, it could take as long as two hours. On Monday, I left the office around 5:15 and got home close to 7pm. With no traffic, my commute door to door is about an hour.
Sheesh. That must get old.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
It sucks. I’ve looked for jobs closer to home, but pay is better in SF, and I have a good job, so…such is life.
move to SF!
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
/unwarranted personal inquiry
Are you in the N. Bay? That 101 N commute up to Santa Rosa amazes me when I drive that way on a weekday.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Oct 5, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
No, but I understand the commute to Santa Rosa is worse. My co-worker lives in Rohnert Park and her one way commute is easily two hours on a good day.
It’s rough, my brother-in-law has been going from San Mateo to Santa Rosa for a while now, and even though it’s against the grain it’s still brutal.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Oct 5, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m fortunate to live in a mid-size city and have kinda odd hours, because I rarely encounter traffic jams, be it morning or evening. I really dislike traffic.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
I live and work in SF, and because of my funky hours my commute is about 20 minutes.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 5, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
My commute in Phoenix was 25 minutes (thankfully the opposite of traffic both ways). Now it takes me about 5 minutes which, after doing the math, give me about an extra week per year with my family.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
That is some serious time-saving.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
There are definitely trade-offs but no traffic is a big plus in my book.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
My dream is to be able to walk to work. And not some mile long trek, too many books to carry.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
You will have bested me for sure — UTK charges out the wazoo* for parking.
* – actual clinical term
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
in my defense, I have a 30-year track record of living close to where I work or go to school. It doesn’t happen by accident.
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Aren’t you only 27?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I meant…geez. You know exactly what I mean. Don’t act like you were born with some kind of literal-interpretation disorder.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
I may have that disorder. kinda hampers me with the women-folk
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
Free parking is incompatible with a short commute
In cities, anyway.
it amazes me
that working an extra 30 minutes means I ride a BART or MUNI train that is totally full instead of half-empty.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Oct 5, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked riding the subway the first time I visited the city, I think in large part because it was a novelty that made me feel all urban.
I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.
it's not so bad
It avoids the surface streets (mostly) that are so congested.
But it leaves dramatically-large parts of the city with no transit at all.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Oct 5, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I used to work in LA but live in OC…37 miles…4 hour roundtrip
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
When I used to take the bus to my old job… a bad day of commuting could take 2-2½ hours one way… 6 miles. Any kind of extreme weather: heat, wind, rain…. would delay the buses, you’d miss a connection and you’d be looking at a nightmare of a commute.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I gripe about our buses
but suburban buses are beyond compare.
Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Oct 5, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Having a 2 year old
makes me enjoy this more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlNZo10pCts
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Looks interesting.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
It looks like such a warm feel good fuzzy type movie
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Will this be the gamethread?
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Sullivan probably has one spun up for both games.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
With custom gifs for each one.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 5, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
The overlord has acted
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2011/10/5/2471855/nlds-gamesthread-10-5
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
1B
Posey shouldn’t be asked to catch 150 games. But he needs to get 550 ABs, probably as the third place hitter. So he’s going to have to ‘take days off’ at 1B.
This gives you a glut of first basemen. Huff, Pill, Belt, Posey…. all the while, SF has no CF and no SS. I could handle Crawford’s defense and Shierholtz in CF – but not both at the same time because of what that means for offensive production. I would not be sad to see Huff go (although, if he usually takes every other year off) but their not going to trade him or cut him. So he gets part time duty at 1B, platooning with Posey.
Belt can stay in LF.
I hate to say it, but Pill needs to be traded for a damned SS or CF. Preferably a player of equal salary and youth.
Bottom line: SF needs a new GM.
In this post-2010 reality, I occupy a resurrection body.
I want Beltran back.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
/nods
It is known.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
You'll get very little for Pill
He’s best off the bench here. And he can play some 2b which, with Keppinger gone, will be useful with Freddie goes down again.
Don't believe everything you think.
They could have entered September neck and neck with Arizona, setting up a fantastical finish.
A fantastical multiple-necked Giant-Snake?
So the Lernaean Hydra?
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 5, 2011 7:34 PM PDT reply actions
Time remains perceived as linear by most of us humans, so your fan post seems to honor that concept and is perhaps a tribute to it.
I suspect that Beltran was a bit hurt when we got him, and it got worse before it
got better. I do not think he was 100% in September, but he was at times a
formidable force. It does seem eerie that July 29th seemed to be the start
of the giants skid, and I think it was the first night Beltran got into our lineup.
If healthy the giants should be favorites to take the division in 2012, but I expect
the division to be a lot tougher next year. The giants will have to hit better at
home, and pitch better on the road.

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