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Buster Posey Catching Bullpen Sessions

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From SFGate.com:

Dave Groeschner, the Giants’ head athletic trainer, just told me that Posey has begun catching live bullpen sessions for pitchers in the instructional league. Groeschner watched Buster catch his second one this morning. The session lasted about 8 minutes.

Don't know about Rollins. Not sure if the Giants can re-sign Beltran. Can't figure out who's on the trading block just yet. Do they really consider Nate Schierholtz a starter?

But I'll be optimistic in March because Buster Posey Buster Posey Buster Posey. The leg injuries were funky enough to make you think of Kendry(s) Morales, who was out for six months until he was out for almost two years. So to hear that Posey is ahead of schedule is better than news of an impending trade that would send Brian Sabean and Aubrey Huff to the Rays for Andrew Freidman and Ben Zobrist.

Well, it would be close.

Any hope of contending next year has to do with a mostly healthy Posey. If he can catch 100 games and play 30-40 games at first against lefties, the Giants will improve greatly. The trick is to find a catcher who can hit lefties -- making it a double-sided non-platoon of limited functionality. 

Even if it's Stewart who stays, though, this news makes me giddy. Now I'll just sit right here and wait spring training.

...

Any day now.

...

Yep. Waitin' for spring.

...

(If Buster could be so kind as to spin the Earth forward and advance time, that'd be swell.)

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That would be awesome

Dave Dravecky level awesome

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

to buster posey

You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk

by LostHawkGSW on Oct 12, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shower this with a multitude of rec-age!

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Oct 12, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Affeldt’s already talking about that on Twitter. Believe.

My boy's got CLOSER MENTALITY!

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 12, 2011 10:07 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Affeldt’s already talking about that on Twitter. Believe.

My boy's got CLOSER MENTALITY!

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 12, 2011 10:08 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

If/when that happens, I feel like it will almost completely nullify all the hair pulling and NO-screaming I endured when Buster went down as well as the genuine disgust for humanity I experienced when Stow was attacked.

by boonitez on Oct 12, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most of the time first pitches are silly. This is not one of those times.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

music

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by son of ggf on Oct 12, 2011 9:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Instant smile

Take it slow Buster. Low and slow. Awesome news.

by shankbone on Oct 12, 2011 9:32 AM PDT reply actions  

How good could this Posey guy be, he sat out almost the entire year.

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 9:36 AM PDT reply actions  

doesn’t know how to win

by Section B, Row 1 on Oct 12, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

3rd on the team in WAR

Behind Pablo (praise be unto the Panda) and Andres Torres (WHO SHOULD BE BENCHED BECAUSE HE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH)

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is all dWar and subjective

Offense was big issue for team. Torres is not the only guy on bubble because of offensive struggles.

by Myemail21479 on Oct 12, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

If UZR could give Torres and Gardner sexual favors, it would.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

COCCA CRISP WILL MAKE BIG WAR IN 50 GAMES WHEN HES HEALTHY

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s really weird how they just decide that players are bad. Of course it happens with young players (we know that the Giants try their best to make them fail), but it happens with older guys too. Why did Pat Burrell become not good enough all of a sudden?

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

When he could no longer run?

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 12, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

It started before that.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Because he probably has a career-ending foot injury?

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I chalked up his 2010 as a fortunate turn of events, rather than baseline of expectation.

I never got “mad” at him, but I’m not calling him our most excellent player now because I wasn’t doing it then. If he wasn’t done before this foot injury, it seems to me he’s done now. It would be pretty difficult to find a reason to keep him not heavily rooted in emotion or nostalgia.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Oct 12, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just can’t wait until we trade Jonathan Sanchez for Jesus Montero. He’s still raw, but I bet he can catch 50-ish games.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 9:38 AM PDT reply actions  

LOL you

You would be lucky if the Yankees traded Montero for Cain.

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whoosh.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heh.

Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.

by speckops on Oct 12, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait...

would spin the Earth faster advance time? I guess date wise but we would have like 2 hour days.

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 9:38 AM PDT reply actions  

I’d miss Christmas!

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, hey, hey. That’s a little personal, don’t you think?

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was it? My apologies- it wasn’t meant to be. More like most people I know greet Christmas with dread knowing the hell that usually comes with shopping, traveling, and family and that they kind of secretly wish the holiday would slowly go away.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate xmas.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

me too man

I don’t know what Christmas is like in the Dominican Republic, but i hope it’s not the circus it is in the States with displays and music starting before Halloween. I return to the States two weeks before Xmas so I’ll still have to bear some of it.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 12, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

yup, i was at Michaels the other day: Xmas stuff already out. And I don’t mean the crafty kinda stuff you need out ahead of time so you can make the stuff in time for December… No assembly required for ornaments, doormats, napkins etc..

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by Merope on Oct 12, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

The sad thing here is that they don’t have Halloween or Thanksgiving, which are my two favorite holidays other than Opening Day and my birthday. Halloween and Thanksgiving make my fall/winter bearable. No candy, silly costumes, turkey, or overeating. :(

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 12, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

No ¿dia de los muertes?

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by Merope on Oct 12, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s more of a Mexican thing. They have a day called Dia de las Brujas here that’s kinda similar. Basically all the holidays in the DR are in the spring and early summer, at least the ones with big festivals and parties.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 12, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

how about

posadas? Not the Jorge kind.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Looked it up. Sounds cool, especially with the pinata. Not sure if they do it here, though. I do know that on December 8 they will start displaying the nativity scene at the big cathedral in the Colonial Zone here. It was the first cathedral built in the New World and it’s really gorgeous. I went there last month and saw all the figures covered with cloths. I guess that’s the best I can do here.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 12, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

hmmm

For a saint’s festival day or something? It’s amazing how much the traditions vary from place to place, we were in Italy during Lent and Easter last year and half the time I couldn’t figure out what they were doing or why.

Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.

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"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, that’s not unusual at any time of the year.

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 12, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

All the guys dressed like KKK were particularly vexing, even when we figured them out.

Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.

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"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I was just making a dick joke.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whenever somebody says, “What’s your point?” I have the overwhelming urge to say, “My penis!”

It wasn’t as straightforward here, I admit.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

You have a pointy penis?…I’ll have to see some numbers on that

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’ll understand when you are older.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Although the points on Howie’s penis are on the sides.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll have to see some numbers on that

Probably fit a “1” on there.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Oct 12, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

As long as you use an 8-point font.

"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain

by EliminateMe on Oct 12, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

everyone knows that howie is a dick joke

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by son of ggf on Oct 12, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

With pointed sides.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

To hell with all of you

I fucking love Christmas.

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by scout6 on Oct 12, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

I'm proudly in this line.

Godless liberals.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let’s all gather around the dessicated conifer and give thanks to Sol Invictus!

Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I especially like the Christmas tree.

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 12, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet you will also be ritually slaughtering a gourd to serve as a candleholder in the near future!

Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m right behind you.

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve never actually celebrated Christmas. I’m what’s wrong with this country.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you know who Snooki is but not Carl Sagan?

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 12, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, come on. I’m a heathen liberal, but I’m not uneducated.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

NOT PART OF THE PROBLEM

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 12, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

YOU’RE the problem. I kid. Someone needs to enjoy it because I sure as hell don’t.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 12, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Christmas Eve is my favorite day of the year.

Just, everything about it, from the preparation of the post-midnight dinner, the tree all lit up, the carols playing, the packed church full of strangers you never usually see, then going home, eating, drinking, opening gifts. And in the Philippines it typically is the only few weeks when it approaches a temperate clime. And all the buildings, from the hovels to the skyscrapers, are festooned with lights and parol and creches in lights and the street trees and park trees are in lights and oh, Christmas.

I rhyme with freak.

by shanghaijim on Oct 12, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL CHRISTMAS CATHOLICS

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s nice to see how the kids have grown from year to year.

I rhyme with freak.

by shanghaijim on Oct 12, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

What’s parol?

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a kind of Christmas lantern.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still say you can't beat the first minute of New Year's

It’s the only holiday where everyone celebrates a single moment together.

But maybe that’s just ten years of celebrating it with the Grateful Dead talking.

"Your curses do not compare to those of Houston fans or Detroit fans, and especially not to those of fans from the northside of Chicago. You are not Hamlet. You are Valerie Bertinelli. Your victim act is schlocky, and totally unconvincing. You fancy yourself tormented. You are merely insecure."
-- Scott Burton to Red Sox fans, 6/12/02
http://espn.go.com/magazine/burton_20020612.html

by achiappanza on Oct 12, 2011 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

/Uncle Bobo’d

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 12, 2011 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

One more year after Bill Graham died as a tribute to him, then they stopped. Apparently none of them liked the hassle of doing New Year’s shows and they happened regularly mostly because Bill was badgering them all the way through it.

"Your curses do not compare to those of Houston fans or Detroit fans, and especially not to those of fans from the northside of Chicago. You are not Hamlet. You are Valerie Bertinelli. Your victim act is schlocky, and totally unconvincing. You fancy yourself tormented. You are merely insecure."
-- Scott Burton to Red Sox fans, 6/12/02
http://espn.go.com/magazine/burton_20020612.html

by achiappanza on Oct 13, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

One more year after Bill Graham died as a tribute to him because the tickets were already sold, then they stopped.

Not to say that NYE wasn’t a tribute to Bill that year, but if Bill had died just a few months earlier – there wouldn’t have been a NYE gig. You’re correct: that was Bill’s big night. Always ways. R.I.P.

Losing Bill was a tough one…Jerry had loads of respect for him. I think it immediately became “less fun” from that point on….but I digress.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 13, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hah!

You’re probably right! That last one was a hoot though, with those jungle-y dudes static lining down from the ceiling.

"Your curses do not compare to those of Houston fans or Detroit fans, and especially not to those of fans from the northside of Chicago. You are not Hamlet. You are Valerie Bertinelli. Your victim act is schlocky, and totally unconvincing. You fancy yourself tormented. You are merely insecure."
-- Scott Burton to Red Sox fans, 6/12/02
http://espn.go.com/magazine/burton_20020612.html

by achiappanza on Oct 13, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the Holidays.

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 12, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

SECRET JEWISH AGENDA

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

WHAT ABOUT KAWANZAA???!!!

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whoa, they really spelled it that way?

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually

it’s spelled Kwanzaa

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not in the future it's not!

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, I know. I think I trusted my tense too much there.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I need to stop doing that.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I knew what you meant.

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

No need to axe you what you’re referencing.

by biff pocoroba on Oct 12, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe that’s an acceptable spelling too? Have you ever seen how many different ways there are to spell Chanukkah, Channukah, Hannukah, Hanukkah, Khanukkah you know that Jewish festival of lights thing in Decemberish?

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by Merope on Oct 12, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Latkes are yummy.

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I always liked putting deidels out for the kids.. great fine motor / hand eye co-ordination activity.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Oct 12, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

and it’s a legal way of gambling

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well 5 year olds are a little young for that aspect of it… but yeah.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Oct 12, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

We’re just trying to confuse non-Jews so when they try and print it up on fliers, posters, and signs we can have a laugh at their expense.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kinda like what (Khadafi, Gadaffy, Qadaffi) does to newspapers?

And here are 37 spellings of his name.

"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
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by drdata24 on Oct 12, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Drives Leo McGarry up the wall.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

ABC lists 112 different spellings here

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by free f.p. #14 on Oct 12, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

tl; dnr

"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti

by drdata24 on Oct 12, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I knew a Jewish girl who insisted that Chanukkah was pronounced with the same sound as Charmander.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, no Hanukkah Harry does that.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Oct 12, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

On Moishe! On Herschel! On Schlomo!

Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Charmeleon would be too rebellious to do it when you asked, though. Charizard would be too lazy to do it all.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

GIS for SECRET JEWISH AGENDA

is kinda awesome

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 12, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

We also might fly off of it. Make sure that you tie yourself down.

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually it wouldn't even work

Buster would need to push the Earth around its orbit faster in order to change the date.

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whoosh.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I take it you’ve never seen the Superman movies.

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know it works to go back in time…but does it work going forward?

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why not?

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

We can all hop in the Tardis

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good question:

Would this totally fictional thing work in another hypothetical situation?

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by scout6 on Oct 12, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey!

You can’t talk about El Person like that!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mild-mannered Calvin is stuck inside doing math problems on a beautiful Sunday. No one is watching! He dashes into his closet! THIS is a job for …. STUPENDOUS MAN! Defender of freedom! Advocate of liberty! A bright crimson streak blasts up through the atmosphere and then turns back toward Earth! Gaining stupendous momentum, STUPENDOUS MAN strikes the ground at an acute angle with stupendous force! The Earth slowly stops rotating… and begins to turn in the opposite direction! Pushing with all his might, STUPENDOUS MAN turns the planet all the way around backwards! The sun sets in the east and rises in the west! Soon it’s 10A.M. the previous day! What are you doing outside? Did you finish your homework already? It’s Saturday! I don’t need to do it until tomorrow… thanks to STUPENDOUS MAN! Mild-mannered Calvin is stuck doing homework on a beautiful Sunday. No one is watching. He dashes into the closet. This is a job for Stupendous Man, defender of freedom, advocate of liberty! A crimson streak blasts through the atmosphere, then heads back toward earth. Stupendous Man strikes the earth at an acute angle, using stupendous force. The earth slowly stops rotating and begins turning in the other direction. Stupendous Man turns the planet all the way around backward. The sun sets in the east and comes up in the west. It’s soon 10:00 AM the previous day. Mom asks what Calvin is doing outside. She asks if he finished his schoolwork. Calvin marches along in his Stupendous Man costume, saying it’s Saturday. He doesn’t need to do it until tomorrow, thanks to Stupendous Man.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

This wall of text is high enough to keep the white walkers at bay.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

The wonders of copy/paste!

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

tl;dnr

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 12, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

IF I SAW IT IN SUPERMAN, IT MUST BE TRUE.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Oct 12, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fun fact!

Chief Justice Cantil-Sakauye’s bodyguard looks like Oddjob.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 9:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Is he wearing a hat?

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL he

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

actually probably is a he though

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, but we were talking about how he should have had the hat.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Her resume is a great inspiration
Born in Sacramento, California, as Tani Gorre Cantil, she was raised in the Land Park neighborhood of Sacramento and earned her high school diploma from C. K. McClatchy High School in 1977, her A.A. from Sacramento City College in 1978, her B.A. from the University of California, Davis in 1980, and her J.D. from UC Davis School of Law in 1984.
Upon graduation from law school in 1984, Cantil was unable to find a job in law, so she became a blackjack dealer in Reno, Nevada.3 The Sacramento County Public Defender’s Office had refused to hire her because she was too young. Later that same year, Deputy District Attorney Russell Hom (a future Sacramento County Superior Court Judge) recruited Cantil to come to the Sacramento County District Attorney’s Office as a Deputy District Attorney.

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, one of her grandfathers was interred during WWII, and the other was a farm worker.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

An inspiration to all Sacramentans.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

She is working on her politician aura. It’s pretty strong right now. I was joking with one of our judges that she’ll be president some day.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Helps

that she is an attractive woman…

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

and she looks about 20 years younger than she is.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

why the anti-duck sentiment? What about owls? Owls are birds too!

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

The owls are not what they seem

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL OWLCROFT!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I always imagine him as the owl from the Pooh cartoons.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

How many licks does it take to get to the center of the Tootsie Pop?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

-

Am I such the oldie that nobody gets a good old fashioned Twin Peaks reference?

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got it. Just didn’t bother to acknowledge it.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just wanted an excuse to post a picture of the dwarf as I just started rewatching it

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1 internets for you

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

needs to

stitch a doily on her robe, like “Judge” Judy.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was at pub trivia last night

and one of the team names was “Bachmann Palin MILFerdrive.”

I lol’d.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Does it help?

Barbara Mikulski is the most senior woman in the Senate, after all.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHOA

She’s hot!

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

When the Judge is a hottie and you can’t control your body, do the creep. Do the creep.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Oct 12, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

When the Judge is a hottie and you can’t control your body, do the creep. Do the creep diarrhea, diarrhea.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Wow. That is perfect.

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Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Oct 12, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Typical male gaze; her legal briefs are up here!

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know

many great female litigators use this weakness of males to their advantage.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

a lot of older male attorneys tend to underestimate young attorneys, especially female ones.

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

It doesn't just affect opposing counsel,

but jurors and the bench, as well.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

my old boss told about how he saw a male opposing counsel with eye shadow/liner during trial.

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

no fair taking advantage of our idiocy

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

and hormones

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Odd, my legal boxers are down here.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Another sitcom! We are on a roll today.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope

they don’t start a rebellion!

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

They didn’t start the fire.

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just a glance!

"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain

by EliminateMe on Oct 12, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Land Park is a nice part of Sacramento (mostly).

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

Things are rough for those poor unfortunate souls that have to grow up in Land Park.

I like her and don’t want to discredit her accomplishments, but that’s the Sacramento version of having to overcome the adversity of growing up in Sausalito.

by BestHyperboleEver on Oct 12, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Does anyone know the number of days til Pitchers & Catchers?

I need to start counting down.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 9:47 AM PDT reply actions  

"Pitchers & Catchers" just gave me a fantastic sitcom idea

It’s about a married couple who fight a lot but still love each other!

Or baseball. Probably baseball.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Oct 12, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Married baseball players who fight a lot but still love each other.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

A married couple that is also a pitcher and a catcher! Their mound meetings would be hilarious!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

“I thought you arranged the babysitter!”

I thought you did!"

/cut to baby driving minivan down the 5

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That’s comedy gold right there.

"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain

by EliminateMe on Oct 12, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

CBS would buy the pilot right now if the pitcher was a big fat white dude of working-class background and the catcher was a stick-thin shrew.

Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

And they both have ethnic friends, but only for a few minutes each episode.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Starring that amazing and hot woman pitcher whose name I can’t remember and her mediocre husband.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jenny Finch, right? And, uh…oh, shoot. Who is she married to?

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Diagle

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right

them.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jennie, not Jenny. Daigle, not Diagle. C’mon people, they’re both American heroes.

by non sequitur on Oct 12, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

ok, non sekuitur

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by rotorueter on Oct 12, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would think you of all people would have a sensitivity to spelling user names correctly.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m just trying to belong.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Oct 12, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not mad. Just disappointed.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

You better be grateful I didn’t go with my first thought, that it was Matt Treanor.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whew. That IS a relief.

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by rotorueter on Oct 12, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stephen Daigle!

I rhyme with freak.

by shanghaijim on Oct 12, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Blu Kennedy!

Seriously, I’d never heard of him before last night, and now I feel like I’m seeing sunshine for the first time.

(Note to other McCoven: Do NOT Google “Blu Kennedy” if at work)

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, you sure made it seem like you knew.

Bright red sunshine amirite

I rhyme with freak.

by shanghaijim on Oct 12, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hallelujah.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Featuring:

Ryan and Nicole Vogelsong
Brendon and Amanda McCarthy

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would watch this.

Nicole Vogelsong is badass.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just found this picture

and mostly like it because of what it suggests about Jeremy and Brian.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

That Affeldt is courteous even to weirdos like Wilson?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

AFFELDT SEEN LENDING UMBRELLA TO HOMELESS MAN

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like Mrs. Vogelsong, she seems like a cool gal. Plus extra credit for household maintenance over eleventy billion moves including one overseas.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

She is really cool. Very friendly with the fans at the park, from what I hear.

@legaleagle88
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I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Oct 12, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Those are some baggy jeans…

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speak of Mr. McCarthy

his lastest tweet:

Public schools, private schools…whatever. My kid will be going to wherever ‘Calvin and Hobbes’ is on the required reading list.

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I need to follow BMcC.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

There’s no way he can be real.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, who says the couple are male & female? Who says Timmy won’t be pitching to his new husband, Buster.

(slightly scared of fan fic that comes out of this)

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

This reminds of TL2's early days on McC

when he posted some awesome fanfics

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I miss doing those.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, it’s already there.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ummm…what’s his name…Drew!

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Giants

haven’t posted their ST schedule yet…but they reported on 2/14 for this year’s ST.

about 125+ days

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 9:50 AM PDT reply actions  

So loooooooooooong

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Springtrainingonline.com doesn’t have them listed yet. But there are some funny comments that were embedded from Facebook on the bottom of this link of where the schedule would be

Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.

by Giant among Angels on Oct 12, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sweet.

I just found toll money in my pants.

No ATM or cashback for me this week!

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 9:54 AM PDT reply actions  

What did you ever do about your car?

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Howie, what did you do about the car? And jhiat, did you get the book?

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

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by Merope on Oct 12, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ah yes I did. Thanks! The youngling loves the little hand clapper thing and the McC meetup pencil is now in my cubicle. That was really cool of you to include those. I will send out your book tomorrow. I meant to dig it out over the weekend but we had family stuff going on. Sorry :(

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh not a problem, I’ve got all the job hunting, sick husband crap going on right now, so no time to read it at the moment anyways! Don’t sweat it! I just wanted to make sure it got there…post office and all you know…

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Oct 12, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ok well it is a good read and a pretty quick one at that. I was trying to think of some SD wares you might enjoy so let me know if you happen to collect post cards or something of the sort.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

At one point in time… a long time ago… I was trying to start a collection of postcards from various colleges and universities. The plan was I’d put them in a photo album type of book and then my 4 and 5 year old children from challenged-socio-economic backgrounds could look through them and pick out where they wanted to go to college. Never followed through on that though.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Oct 12, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got the money I could for it and bought another one. What’s a little more debt to a guy who’s going to a private school on almost nothing but loans?

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had some support from some people I wasn’t expecting, too, so I was actually able to get a decent car. Which really eases my mind after that last one.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

What do you have now?

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

A Scion.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

that’s good, being carless is a hassle. Especially in the winter. Leads to discontent and like, you know, wet feet and stuff.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Oct 12, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Glad to hear it. If you have to be in debt it’s good to at least have something reliable.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

And the other nice thing to come out of it was discovering that my support system is both wider and stronger than a realized. Warm and fuzzies.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hell yeah. Maybe they had heard the saying, “A howtheyscored always repays his debts.”

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

in kind.

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

With his pointy penis.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pole Money?

Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.

by Giant among Angels on Oct 12, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tell me why this is a bad idea:

Ryan Doumit.

Can’t stay healthy and has a lousy defensive reputation, but I figure having a catcher who can hit will be more important for us than for most teams, since it’ll be brutal to take Posey out of the lineup 30 days next year (assuming he can catch a more or less full load and play some 1B).

He’s a switch hitter, which is a nice bonus. Plus, if the 600ish inning UZR sample is to be believed, he’s not awful in the outfield. He can be our 5th outfielder / power bat off the bench guy in addition to being backup catcher. For safety, we’d probably have to keep Stewart on the 25-man squad. Doumit’s not perfect, but I think he could fill multiple holes pretty cheaply.

by Monkeyking42 on Oct 12, 2011 9:56 AM PDT reply actions  

because he is the worst defensive catcher in the league…seriously worse that Eli.

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

When you have one of the best catchers in the league catching 110 games, it’s not going to hurt as much to have the worst catching 50.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh

But in other ways, if you have a shitty backup catcher who catches for 50 games, it hurts just as bad no matter who your other catcher is, because it’s still negative value for those 50 games.

Your line of thinking makes sense if you’re envisioning it as ‘well, the aggregate production we’ll get from catcher will still be good even with 50 games of crap’. But the 50 games of crap are still 50 games of crap, no matter who’s there the rest of the time.

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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean, 110 good+50 bad is a lot better than 120 bad.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

And 110 good + 50 decent could be up to two wins better than 110 good + 50 bad.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Given that Whiteside/Stewart are pretty much replacement level players, you’re talking about 2 WAR over 50 games. That’s way more than decent; that’s a player you want in the lineup every day.

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by EliminateMe on Oct 12, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shoppach was worth 1.4 in 230 PAs, if I’m remember correctly off the top of my head.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

In 2011, Shoppach started 71 games and was worth 1.1 fWAR or 1.4 bWAR. But that’s mostly based on his defense having greatly improved over previous years (it was sub-replacement from 2008-2010) so it seems a bit suspect.

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by EliminateMe on Oct 12, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you assume some rebound from a .212(!) BABIP, changing leagues, and batting him mostly against LHP, being worth at least a win seems a lot more likely.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is true

But the equation your comment implied is that

(110 good) + (50 bad) > (110 less-good) + (50 bad).

Which is completely true, but:

(50 bad) still is equal to (50 bad).

No matter how good the guy who catches your other 110 games is, the 50 bad is just as bad.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you’re absolutely right. See below for what I was trying to get at.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Short version

50 games is still a third of the season. You want to get as much production as you can.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I wasn’t clear about this, so there’s been a misunderstanding.

I was referring to defense in this comment. 50 games of crap would be 50 games of crap defense with Doumit. The offense would more than make up for that.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

That makes more sense.

Thanks for clarifying!

I think Doumit would help a lot as a backup C and bench guy who can play 1st and pretend to play the OF a bit too.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d rather not have Doumit pretend to play the outfield.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind it for 20 games or whatever

40 or so behind the plate, 20 at first, 20 in the outfield and a pinch-hit chance every game would probably give Doumit something like 350 ABs over a full year. He’s still a pretty good hitter, and would be a good fit for that role, while not giving him too much exposure to any one thing.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

How can I put this more succinctly:

Ryan Doumit: do not want.

The only way to get the most out of him is to hide his glove. And I don’t mean by putting him in left field – I mean by putting his glove in a lockbox.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know it's heresy and all

I don’t mind seeing the backup C pinch-hit, especially if he can actually, you know, hit.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he pinch-hits and then goes to first or whatever so that he can strap on the gear if needed, this is a good option.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the 600ish inning UZR sample is to be believed

It isn’t.

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by free f.p. #14 on Oct 12, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

The upside

By comparison, Doumit in right field would make Aubrey Huff look like Willie Mays.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you covered all the bad parts of the idea

except that he’d be way too expensive for a “luxury” item like backup C. Remember they supposedly didn’t want to pay Yorvit $3.25M this year.

The roster thing you mention is the worst part, if they have a guy that can’t catch regularly enough to be the backup they sure as hell shouldn’t carry two guys to do the job.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

My thought with the roster spot is I’m assuming they hang on to Torres and sign one of DeJesus/Crisp/Ross (this is in the no-Beltran scenario). With most of the outfield being pretty versatile, I’m comfortable carrying just four true outfielders. You could almost look at it as if Doumit is taking over Burrell’s roster spot. So instead of one defensively limited bat-first outfielder, you have a defensively limited bat-first outfielder who can also catch some.

If they were to sign, say, Willingham, I would be less comfortable also carrying Doumit.

by Monkeyking42 on Oct 12, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with you.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t Doumit try to take out someone one at second base when the Pirates played at AT&T? I think Krukow got upset about it. He seems kind of like a tough guy jerk.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Oct 12, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Giants has never had a problem with jerk catchers.

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

"Tough guy jerk?" Try "soulless monstrosity!"

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

(actual game footage)

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Demon Eyes

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 12, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

He would be really nice to have, except RDF.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT: Breaking Bad

But what about Hank’s wife being surrounded by purple stuff?! I need opinions!

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 9:56 AM PDT reply actions  

It’s because she was out of Sunny Delight.

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by rotorueter on Oct 12, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

What the fuck is juice?

Give me some of that purple stuff!

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sizzurp?

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s just one of those weird obsessions Gilligan has with color schemes. It’s only there for nerds who want to think they are on some kind of inside track.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

And here I thought I was so smart for noticing.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

The purple toaster really made me chuckle.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s been there since the beginning. Apparently, they wanted her car to be purple, too, but they couldn’t swing it.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

so walt = black, hank = brown, hank’s wife = purple, jessie = red?, walt’s wife = white, and ted = tool

right?

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, no

Walt wears washed out colors when he’s wimpy Walt, and bold colors when he’s Heisenberg. Jesse started out with bright yellows and reds, and now he’s almost always in black. Sometimes they even have the background around the characters in the colors that indicate their relative emotional states. You have to watch the colors change to get the idea.

But all that is too much work for me. I occasionally notice, but whatever.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man, sorry I didn't know you were serious

Absolutely this on Walt and Heisenberg. It’s all about alter-egos yo.

by Cap M on Oct 12, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

FYI- The AV Club has the creator of the show going through the season episode by episode and detailing what he was doing and why

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, yeah, gotta go read part 3. It’s getting to the really great eps now.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Last one I watched, Walt went straight evil on Hank. That was wrong on so many levels (the phone call).

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Halfway through season 3, i believe? Or maybe it was earlier in the season than that, I can’t really remember. That was awful though.

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by free f.p. #14 on Oct 12, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

The part about Gus and Tio existing almost completely because the actor who played Tuco wasn’t available long term was pretty amazing.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Oct 12, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

BUT THOSE ARE BOTH AWESOME CHARACTERS

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Each of which is more interesting than Tuco!

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely

I like the smart, quiet evil a lot more than the loud, angry kind.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Oct 12, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I miss Gus already. But it was time for him to go.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Every time they hit a bump in the road

the show gets better.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

They did that with Louie too

It was cool.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I should read the Community one sometime.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

MRS. ROBINSON ALWAYS WORE ANIMAL PRINTS BECAUSE SHE WAS THE PREDATOR

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 12, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has the Boston Globe Red Sox Collapse story been discussed?

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by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 10:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Is it the one about the pitchers playing videogames and such in the clubhouse?

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Beckett, Lester and Lackey ate takeout chicken too!

by shankbone on Oct 12, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

The article didn’t say what takeout joint, though. Hopefully it wasn’t just KFC.

by non sequitur on Oct 12, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pollos Hermanos

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by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently there were biscuits with this chicken

by shankbone on Oct 12, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve taken to called “El Pollo Loco” Pollos Hermanos whenever I drive past one.

"I never argue with people who say baseball is boring because baseball is boring. Except, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great."
-Joe Posnanski

by free f.p. #14 on Oct 12, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want a Pollos Hermanos air freshener for my car. That logo is dope.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I haven't had really good fried chicken in awhile...

I probably should try Roscoes one of these days.

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you’re in the OC (which is assume you are, thanks to your handle) there’s one in Long Beach which probably isn’t too far from you. I used to go to the one on Pico & La Brea in South Central a lot, but I haven’t been in a few months now.

God I love Roscoe’s.

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by free f.p. #14 on Oct 12, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Double Arrested Development reference!

Don’t call it that, pollo hermano.

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by troymccluresf on Oct 12, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Never actually seen it.

/hangs head in shame, anticipates banning

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by free f.p. #14 on Oct 12, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha! I’ve seen it and didn’t like it! Quintuple banning for me!
At least you have the excuse of never having seen it!

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by Merope on Oct 12, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

jponry warned me for that once.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Most people think that it has some factor, GP does not think much of the story.

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure this would impact your job performance
Francona spent the season living in a hotel after he moved out of the Brookline home he shared with Jacque, his wife of nearly 30 years. But he adamantly denied his marital problems affected his job performance.

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by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno, I wouldn’t mind living in some swanky hotel…NO CHORES!!!! Yay!!!!!

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by Merope on Oct 12, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously, the emotional stress felt by being separated from your wife is offset by no longer having responsibilities of the home life. LOL

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Oct 12, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to make a comment along those lines, namely that divorce is sometimes (as I understand from those who have suffered through) quite a relief, and in those kinds of situations not cohabitating is probably a relief more than anything else.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, FWIW

Every breakup I’ve ever gone through has made me much better at my job or made most other parts of my life better, even if I wasn’t the one doing the breaking up. I don’t deal with emotions well, so taking the energy it would take to deal with them and channeling them into something positive (school, career) was the only way to move on from the pain and stress. Granted, my longest relationship fell just short of three years, which I concede is a whole different monster than a thirty year marriage.

by JSing on Oct 12, 2011 12:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

One size definitely doesn’t fit all. My wife worked on a divorce research project for a long while, and I think the main conclusion was “staying together for the kids pretty much does the opposite of what folks commonly believe”.

Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

He was so distraught that he was having marital problems that he kept writing Adrian Gonzalez into the 10th spot of the order and calling for Curt Schilling from the bullpen.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you accept the premise that a manager has responsibilities during the other 20 hours of most days, and that those responsibilities include managing people, oh never mind.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

exactly

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's a stretch to say that the single most important thing a manager does is fill out the lineup card

And, second to that, it’s handling the bullpen.

Two things which wouldn’t really be affected by marital problems. Did being estranged from his wife cause him to use the wrong relievers or play the wrong players?

What exactly are you asserting was affected by his personal issues?

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

What if Adrian Gonzalez looks like your estranged wife?

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then it’s probably good that she’s estranged.

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by speckops on Oct 12, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

!!

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

AAAAUUGHHHH!

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

This reminds me of the painful exclamations Calvin used to make in the old Calvin & Hobbes cartoons.

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by free f.p. #14 on Oct 12, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

AUGH is more of a Peanuts thing.

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yessir.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got a Peanuts card the other day. It was boss.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

My daughter is doing a report on Charles Schulz. I’ll suggest she add AUGH somewhere in there.

by City Girl on Oct 12, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

There should be a “good grief” in there as well.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t stand it!

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wrote a biography on Charles Schulz when I was in fifth grade. I drew a picture of him for the cover. I was proud of that one. Sadly, I don’t think I have it anymore.

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is kinda what she’s doing (and she’s in the 5th grade) but she has to turn it into presidential poster. She also has to do an oral presentation which she’s not excited to do.

by City Girl on Oct 12, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

That sounds even cooler than what I had to do. The poster part anyway.

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

My ex boss looks just like him. He’s also of Mexican decent.

Also, LOL Rangers.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Oct 12, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair

What the Rangers got back for him was marginally better than what the Marlins did.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Real fact

Adrian Gonzalez was once traded as part of a package that included Terrmel Sledge.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dirtbag!

Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.

by Giant among Angels on Oct 12, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

the Marlins included Gonzalez in a June 2003 trade with the Texas Rangers, along with Ryan Snare and minor leaguer Will Smith, to acquire a relief pitcher, Ugueth Urbina

Gonzalez was traded to the San Diego Padres along with pitcher Chris Young and outfielder Terrmel Sledge. In return, the Rangers received Adam Eaton and Akinori Otsuka.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess it's pretty close actually.

Two terrible trades.

Never trade for premium relief pitching ever.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Padres got Young in that deal, too? Damn, son.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t the Marlins go on to win the World Series with UU?

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Oct 12, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

They gave up Adrian Gonzalez!

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoyed Terrmel Sledge’s existence because his name sounded like sludge.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Marlins did get a fancy World Championship ring in 2003.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 12, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

It wasn't because of Ugueth

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by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Adrian Gonzalez never got the Padres to the World Series.

Ugueth Urbina went 1-0 with 4 saves in the 2003 post-season.

I agree with you re never trading for “premium” relief….but I’m just playing devil’s advocate.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 12, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Which they promptly pawned in 2004.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL!!!!!!

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Still reminds me of the villain in Tintin

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rastapopoulos

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by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

BILLIONS OF BLISTERING BARNACLES

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great snakes!

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by EliminateMe on Oct 12, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s at all clear what the most important thing a manager does, particularly if you accept the premise that excepting abject stupidity, the worst damage a manager will ever do with a lineup is still relatively minor. You allude to this: What manager is going to bat Adrian Gonzales somewhere other than the middle of the lineup? The “Fuckup Range” for lineup construction is really damn limited, except for extreme cases.

What the manager does outside of gametime is typically, I believe, accepted as the “managing personalities” aspect. I’m perfectly aware this won’t satisfy you, but it really is the simplest example: There are players on every team who have the right to be unhappy with their use, and I don’t think you have to take the concept as far as mutiny to see how things like dissatisfaction, disaffection, frustration, disrespect, etc., may affect individual performance.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I also believe that this is what keeps Bruce Bochy employed, and that gives me admittedly mixed feelings.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

In my opinion, I don’t think Bochy is considered good at those things. I think the media likes to refer to him as a players’ manager, but they like to mislead the public. I don’t ever recall hearing any player ever mention that they enjoy playing for Bochy. In contrast, as bad at making in game decisions as Dusty was, you would often hear players saying they enjoyed playing for him. Or at least that’s what my faulty memory tells me.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Oct 12, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I also believe that the whole “hit a home run and you get to play tomorrow, don’t hit a home run and you’ll be sitting” has to piss players off.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Oct 12, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Particularly when he doesn’t actually make good on it.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have no idea what Bochy was thinking a lot of the times this season and I’m not sure either. Maybe he was just trying to juggle too many players at once and just wound up making nobody happy.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

There were many, many secret and unknowable facts that you have no way of knowing that perfectly explain each and every one of them.

And since they’re unknowable, you can’t prove that they don’t exist. /McC closes forever

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh yeah, I agree. That’s why I’ve been saying it would be great to get some sort of “behind the scenes” story to explain a lot of that. Did Cabrera play that much because he was just so “gritty” or because Fontenot was injured or was he threatening to release naked photos of Bochy to the press?

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think making sure your starting pitching staff doesn’t spend the entirety of the Sox’ games playing video games, drinking beer, and eating fried chicken would qualify as something as manager should be on top of. And, yes, I think this is one of Bochy’s strengths too

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think this logic keeps a lot of bad managers employed.

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by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

and a lot of teams not collapsing in September

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

If I’m reading right, though, your logic suggests that a ten-year-old could adequately handle the responsibilities of an MLB manager. And, Little Big League aside, I just want to check that.

Because you do say that, easily, the single most important thing a manager does is fill out a lineup card, and you also suggest that lineups are almost impossible to fuck up. So if the most important thing that a manager can do is also the least likely to be fucked up, then what of the ten-year-old theory?

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

And I’m not saying this as a Great Defense of People Managers, because I certainly have conflicted feelings about that whole thing (recall: Bruce Bochy fits the bill). I am, however, not at all comfortable dismissing the idea altogether.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

A smart 10 year old could do parts of a managers job, sure.

There are other things a manager should do, of course, and they’re the things you alluded to. But are those things anywhere near as important as making sure the correct players are on the field?

I’m not sure where in this discussion I suggested that lineups are almost impossible to fuck up – you said that, and I agree with you to a certain extent, but surely you agree that the difference between Aubrey Huff and Brandon Belt cost us a couple wins this season?

The order of the lineup is less important than the people in it, and a manager like Bochy likely cost us more than a few wins, if only through the incredible amount of playing time that players like Rowand, Tejada, and Cabrera got over the course of the season. That is a real decision made by the manager that has a tangible effect on the ability of the team to win.

This more ethereal idea that the manager has to keep everyone happy and content otherwise the players will play worth is decidedly intagible and unprovable. If we’re going to evaluate managers, let’s base it on the stuff that we know that they do that has a real, provable effect on the outcome of games – choosing to play the best players. After that, if we think that a manager is a good “people person” or someone who can “manage personalities”, then that’s gravy – but it’s not how we should be deciding who’s a good and a bad manager. There’s better ways to do that.

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by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I suppose I read too much into your comments about how Terry Francona’s lineup construction might be affected.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

If those are their two most important jobs, then nearly every manager is incompetent almost beyond incomprehension. I’m not arguing with you, but I would hope that that isn’t the case.

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by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Theo signs Lackey and Crawford to huge contracts and then says, “Later, suckers!”.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget Beckett!

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yankee sneak attack!

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ain’t that always the way.

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by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Keith Olbermann thinks the Red Sox management are #dicks for trying to “smear” francona and epstein

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with him about Francona

The whole marriage and pills thing was entirely over the top.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s their thing in Boston, isn’t it?

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s East Coast Media. Good thing they are so hard on the teams, they get to the bottom of the story.

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

/waits for hank or baggs to do a Bochy / Sabean exposé

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by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hank: “Brian wouldn’t share his fried chicken with me! What an asshole.”

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bochy was on roids the whole time. What, you thought his head is naturally that big?

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

/cues testimony by Murph

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve always thought that shit came down this season that’s been hinted at but we’ll probably never know. What with the vets whining, Huff’s suckiness, the handling of the kids, God knows what was going on with the starting pitcher dealing with no offense, and Neukom getting whacked, there has to be a lot of dirt out there

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Please don't feed into this with speculation.

We’re enough like the Red Sox as it is.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying there is dirt and I don’t want crap thrown at various players but it’s more like it was a weird, grueling season in which the team was in constant state of red alert due to players’s being injured and vets not coming through and I wonder what, if anything, was happening in the locker room.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's always going to be frustration when you don't meet expectations.

These guys are competitors and they want to win.

But pretty much everyone, short of Cain and Pablo, scuffled at some point this season. But given how free and easy they played in the last weeks of the season, it didn’t look like a team melting down from the inside.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well if they are repeating anonymous stuff from the Sox FO that’s not really getting to the bottom of anything. It’s actually just being a media arm for the organization.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

These aren’t the kind of things you can go on record for; look at Youk’s non-denial denial on alcohol. And virtually no one else productively commented for the story in spite of being asked, they mention this in the article.

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

If they can’t go on record then perhaps it shouldn’t have been written? So now whoever said this stuff is completely unaccountable. There are times for use of anonymous sources but gossip like this is not one of them IMO.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unaccountable doesn’t seem correct. The players had the opportunity to explain the context as mentioned in the article (like Francona does) and didn’t. And what makes you inclined to believe the sources are wrong? The mere fact that they are anonymous?

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whether the players deny it (or even if it is true or not) doesn’t change the fact that the Red Sox FO seems to be throwing these people under the bus in order to save face and that they are using the reporter to do so anonymously. You don’t see anything wrong with that?

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I think the Red Sox FO is a lost cause, because either way they are employing the players and tolerating misbehavior, and if these are false then it is all the more reprehensible. Certainly they did some bizarre things, like the headphones thing. And if the reporters didn’t do their diligence in verifying the reports then regardless of their truth that is a grievious misuse of resources. But if the players really did misbehave that I don’t see why they should get a pass even if badly motivated.

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Releasing that kind of personal information is unprofessional and completely uncalled for

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by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

They were just total assholes to Francona for no good reason. I never disliked the guy despite how much I didn’t like the team and I feel for him.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 12, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve heard he’s one of the nicest guys in baseball, too.

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by kdl on Oct 12, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've mostly enjoyed him in the booth for the ALCS

and not just because he’s not Joe Buck or Tim McCarver.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I haven’t watched any of his games (I listened on the radio), but I’ve heard similar sentiments expressed by others.

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by kdl on Oct 12, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

He was great in the booth

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by DFARowand on Oct 12, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

He was fantastic in the booth…… (thats what joe buck said)

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by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds about right. But even if he was an asshole as well, I think it’s extremely unethical for the media to publish personal details about him AND blame his personal problems for the Red Sox falling apart. That’s disgusting and the Globe needs a serious reevaluation of their writers and ethics.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 12, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think they know it's lousy.

They just don’t care.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been told some serious stuff off the record and I keep my mouth shut because some things aren’t worth publishing for the ethical violations you could incur. It’s one thing if the scandalous details are directly involved in the story, like Eliot Spitzer’s hooker time or Anthony Wiener showing his wiener. I don’t see the point in risking my own credibility and harming someone else by broadcasting personal stuff all over the place if it doesn’t help a story.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 12, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

More than the media I blame whoever released that kind of personal information to the reporter in the first place.

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by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is also true and extremely unethical. I don’t know what one would gain from doing that.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 12, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

face

to the extent ownership wants to “prove they did the right thing” via unattributed scapegoating.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

The link was a real handful.

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

the link was all-hands

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you would stop propellering I might be able to.

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 12, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed and this is one of my biggest issues with media in general.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

brb drafting a press release to be read verbatim by a KRON reporter later.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ahahaha
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You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I pitch baseballs. I love Liverpool and LSU football. Those are different footballs but I’m not explaining the difference. My wife says to say that I’m married.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stupid bigamy laws

Plus, he is a LSU fan. My FSU-loving mother would never accept him

by WhatsAMataHari on Oct 12, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

why

are you assuming they were told these things off the record?

by LPKingsFan on Oct 12, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not. I’m saying that a journalist should have enough brains to make a judgement call when they have sensitive info like that. The only real sensitive info I’ve come across in my work is stuff that’s been off the record.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 12, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

ok

so if you’re saying the reporter should have better sense than going with all the anonymous quotes since it’s clear it’s just one side trying to push an agenda anonymously, then yeah, I agree with you (I fancied myself a journalist in college and a couple years after).

by LPKingsFan on Oct 12, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. I’m really wary of anonymous quotes anyway, because it’s hard to tell if the sources are trustworthy.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 12, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

“I never said that.” – Anonymous

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by EliminateMe on Oct 12, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

BLOGGER QUOTES SOURCE DENYING STATEMENT

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget the Pills. Who would have guessed that the 2011 Red Sox would have turned out to be baseball’s version of the Valley of the Dolls?

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

What’s up with pills? I havent heard that part.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Oct 12, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Prescription pain pills that Tito takes due to “double digit” knee surgeries (including a replacement). The ESPN piece linked above says that other Boston employees might take pause at the fact that their conversations with the team doc’s could, perhaps, become public record at a later date.

Tito was quoted in the Globe piece saying that he spoke to the doctor about his use of the meds and the doctor advised he was using them correctly. The “unnamed sources” seem to suggest that he was over-medicating or even abusing.

Pretty shitty on the part of the Sawx organization, IMO.

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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 12, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

thx

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Oct 12, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I liked

where they contacted the Dr. and he didn’t return their call. TITO NO SIGN HIPAA FORM

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't assign blame to them. From what I've heard, I can't blame them for wanting to leave.

For all the purchasing power, it sounds like a shitty organization from the top down.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought the article as amusing

But all anonymous sources reeks of Red Sox management trying to pin all the blame on the players.

And the Francona stuff was pretty out there

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by DFARowand on Oct 12, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thank Bonds

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by NuschlerFace on Oct 12, 2011 10:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Doesn't drink enough during the season to play for the Red Sox.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t drink at all (I think).

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Oct 12, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

thatsthejoke.gif

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he’s placing the blame in the wrong basket. It’s the freaking mlb playoffs… why does it seem like there are only 4 freaking commercials? It’s the same shit, and network promos, over and over and over and over….

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by Merope on Oct 12, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

My boss just told me he thinks the ads are hilarious. HA!

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by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think you can really equate Norriss with the first two.

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think you can equate Cousins with Morgan either.

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, I’m just saying that they’ve been hostile in varying degrees to the team they grew up supporting is all. Just seems weird. And I know Tony Plush is a nut job.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Oct 12, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Their childhood dreams of helping their home town team win it’s first World Series title have been crushed and they are angsty about it.

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by Merope on Oct 12, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

“I’m still Bud Norris, here to tell you about WhoAmI.com, because you apparently didn’t notice the other time I told you!”

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I had no idea who he was.

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by kdl on Oct 12, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I haven’t seen this ad yet (thank god). The NBA 2K12 one is awful and I want Wilson to just stop.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 12, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is terrible and ridiculous.

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by kdl on Oct 12, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, please don’t. You can probably imagine what it’s like without watching it.

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by kdl on Oct 12, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I warned you!

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by kdl on Oct 12, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

ON TOPIC: I think the perfect catcher to play against lefties

Is Kelly Shoppach.

There’s no way Tampa picks up his 3.2 mil club option.

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by DFARowand on Oct 12, 2011 10:54 AM PDT reply actions  

He has a nice beard too. Hits HRs in the postseason. Whats not to like?

by shankbone on Oct 12, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not a bad idea.

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

.274/.373/.536 against lefties in his career, and what defensive metrics I can find have him as an average catcher.

Good call.

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by free f.p. #14 on Oct 12, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

He ranks very galooty as well.

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by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

a year too late

but that is the kind of guy they should be getting if they intend to seriously contend for the postseason annually.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

After more than two years of Whiteside, I would be perfectly happy to “settle” for starting Kelly Shoppach on shitty getaway days.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously, improve Bochy’s white flag lineup a bit.

by shankbone on Oct 12, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it’s more a question of tempting Bochy into playing the guy and not running Buster into the ground. Or making him a blankety-blank first baseman.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

When your back-up catcher is Eli Whiteside, you kind of have to make Buster strap on the gear 140 times a season; there’s too much of a penalty not to play him. If you have Shoppach to start against lefties and play day games after night games, it becomes so much easier to give Buster a day off.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

and he seems to be coming along well for which I'm thankful

but just because he recovers from the injury doesn’t mean he stays healthy constantly in 2012, either.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Totally agree we need a 60 or more game catcher next year. some of those getaway lineups were so poor, even before Cousins made his run. Also having a better backup in case something terrible happens would be a good idea.

by shankbone on Oct 12, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Another good reason to invest in a good backup.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just like last year, only now with a year of horrible real-world evidence to look back on!

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Selfishly, I’d like to hang on to Stewart. Think he’d accept a minor-league assignment?

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really hope so, I think he’d be great in Fresno to work with the pitchers there, hopefully better ones than they cobbled together last year. And ST too for that matter.

And to fill in for a week in an emergency, if disaster strikes again.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

He can’t hit so who wants him?

by Myemail21479 on Oct 12, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

If your 1b is 2011 Huff

Then Buster playing 1b or C hardly matters

by Myemail21479 on Oct 12, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s funny how Whiteside stopped being Jonathan Sanchez’s personal catcher once Buster started catching every day. I guess Dirty just would not pitch to Molina.

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by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is neither a Type A or Type B as well. No draft picks will be harmed in this signing.

by shankbone on Oct 12, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Price?

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Sabean could get Shoppach on the cheap.

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by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

His current contract (expires after this year, assuming TB doesn’t pick up his option) was 2/$5.5mil. I’m sure he could be had for about the same.

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by free f.p. #14 on Oct 12, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's a lot for a backup catcher

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Posey should not be catching 150 games this year

I think money should be spent on a guy who will play at least 60 games at catcher

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by DFARowand on Oct 12, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's it

unless they have someone that looks like a real C they are going to play Buster into nothingness.

Also see: Eli Whiteside, $600k

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate the idea

of the backup catcher making way more than Posey.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha

Do you also hate the idea of Zito making way more than Cain and Lincecum?

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of course.

I know Buster will get his payday, but still.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with you, BTW, it’s just kind of the problem the Giants seem to have created for themselves. Kind of like Torres and Burrell and Ross looking at Rowand and thinking: “Really?”

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's the problme with the whole leauge

and the free agent system. You get paid in your 30’s for what you did in your 20s’. No wonder years like Huff’s exist.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Oct 12, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s also a problem with the dipwad owners that sign the contracts/checks. And include an anti-collusion clause in the CBA. LOL ANTITRUST EXEMPTION

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

It made more sense when PED’s extended the players careers by helping to delay their decline.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Oct 12, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

PEDs don't E the players' P!

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 12, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Such is the nature of the baseball market structure.

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by free f.p. #14 on Oct 12, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Posey

Got a $6.2 million dollar signing bonus.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 12, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like the idea of the backup catcher not being Eli Whiteside or Chris Stewart.

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by speckops on Oct 12, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Winnar.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Winnar.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chicken dinnar.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pollos Hermanos?

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Oct 12, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

/points you to Buster Posey’s signing bonus

It all evens out.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sure Buster will have plenty of endorsement deals.

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by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Considering the Giants’ payroll flexibility is about 10-15 million…2 million is a lot.

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

And thus, the Rainy Day Fund failed to qualify for the postseason.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well…if the Giants sign Rollins and Beltran for $20 million, it would be hard to grip against the FO.

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

In that case it would be even stupider to not shell out for a backup C not named Whiteside or Bengie.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

I would say that if the Giants get Rollins and Beltran, I would be more than happy with Chris Stewart and his league minimal salary as backup C.

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s a big IF

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by free f.p. #14 on Oct 12, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

sure

Shoppach would be a nice addition if the Giants are going the budget route

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Which is the route I believe they are going to take.

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by free f.p. #14 on Oct 12, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

As to OBP Shoppach is about as good a hitter as Stewart, and has been declining at the plate for the last three years. Why get Shoppach when we have Stewart?

by campanari on Oct 12, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

The discussion was about Shoppach vs. lefties

Shoppach has a .909 OPS and against lefties in his career.

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by DFARowand on Oct 12, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

His career? He has been dropping in his recent career. His OBP was .317 last year and .319 the year before in games where there was a LH starter. I’m less impressed when i observe that Stewart’s comparable OBP (left-handed starter) last year was .379 (and .392 vs Shoppach’s .344 in 2011, .375 in .2010 against all LH pitching. Of course a small number of ABs for Stewart is flimsy information, but strong enough to make one think that there is no good prima facie case in favor of Shoppach on a downtrend as against Stewart, whose splits over a significant number of ABs remain to be tested.

by campanari on Oct 12, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know if dropping from .319 to .317 is a drop. I mean, it is technically, but getting on base once would change it to “not a drop,” so it’s not a real drop.

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by speckops on Oct 13, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing could possibly go wrong with that plan! Besides they can always trade for someone at midseason if injury strikes!

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rollins AND Beltran?

Haw haw.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

For 20 million!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

25 million?

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

What about

Crisp and Rollins

Furcal and Beltran?

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

What is with all the Crisp mania!

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

CRISP CODDLING

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really. I don’t get it.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Oct 12, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously

He is Andres Torres. The Giants have one of those; they don’t need another.

by taliesin on Oct 12, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

The CF is always greener

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dude plays CF and can hit leadoff

Sabean news conference said, we are looking for CF leadoff hitter. Secondary leadoff options in CF are slim to chance Phillies win WS in 2011.

These days I would rather get Reyes at SS, put Nate at CF, let Belt, Pill, Huff take 1b and OF corners and upgrade one of them in July when we find out who really sucks.

by Myemail21479 on Oct 12, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Explain how Crisp is better than Torres

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by marcello on Oct 12, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Torres gets soggy in milk.

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by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Torres looks too good in jeans!

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel like the fro works a lot better with the yellow A’s alternate uniforms than with anything the Giants wear.

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by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s too bad they got rid of Garry Maddox before they started wearing the orange jerseys in the 70s. Then you could see the error of your ways for once.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those orange jerseys were so bad.

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by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

But Afro goes with everything. Except maybe teal.

by S. Pickford #25 on Oct 12, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mercury Morris and Paul Warfield disagree with this comment!

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Csonka went with a fro, tho white dudes were froing back in the 70’s.

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by Merope on Oct 12, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Warfield did either, tbh.

Too bad Gene Washington didn’t play there!

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Torres hit like crap in 2011

Given his age, and the fact he had 1 good year and a couple good months, his probability of doing what he did hitting in 2010 is seriously diminished. What Crisp did in 2011 and what his career has been, the odds of him having a better year or at least stable year are significantly higher.

But, the upside is hardly there, besides just the stability. I’d rather get a power bat at the corner and move Nate (or hope for Torres to rebound) or Reyes at SS.

by Myemail21479 on Oct 12, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was consistently terrific from 2008 to 2010.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

He didn't really hit that bad for a gold-glove calibur CF.

He only hit like crap compared to how he’d hit before. But the Giants should be interested in how he hits relative to other available options.

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by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

caliber

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Firefox doesn't spellcheck subject lines for some reason

I make all my mistakes up there =(

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by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

And in your heart.

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You have to right click and click on "Check Spelling"

It’s annoying having to do it each time.

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Opera doesn't do that either

And now I can’t log in to MCC from Opera (which is odd, because I’m logged in when I access any other SBN site with Opera), so I have to use IE to browse MCC, and there’s no spellcheck here at all.

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by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what you get for not using Chrome.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

But

Gold Glove caliber CFs hit.

That’s what makes them Gold Glove caliber.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, that’s what makes them Gold Glove CFs.

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by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cocoa Pebbles’ leg fell off as you typed that.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crisp is just a low-rent version of Torres with a high-priced sticker

Another way to write that is that Sabean can’t stop fapping to the thought of signing Crisp.

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by marcello on Oct 12, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well anybody "can" hit leadoff

Crisp’s qualifications for the job seem to be that he’s fast. His career .330 OBP certainly isn’t very inspiring.

Slight diversion: Can someone explain to me why it became a baseball tradition to bat your base stealer at the top of the lineup, in front of all your good hitters? Why not 5th or 6th, in front of guys who need help?

by taliesin on Oct 12, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I believe that goes back to the deadball era where your “good” hitters weren’t likely to knock a guy in from first.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Oct 12, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always liken threat of steal almost as good as stealing itself. Having a guy distracting the pitcher, or making him slide step only benefits the batter.

Besides the who takes extra bases on singles\doubles and things that speed brings. Yes fast is good, in all places in the lineup. But the leadoff spot would be better off with just an OBP guy, preferably hits doubles and steals.

by Myemail21479 on Oct 12, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

In other words, Andres Torres.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh OK

I didn’t know there was a center fielder available with a .350+ OBP.

What’s his name?

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by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe Shlabotnik!

It certainly ain’t Cocoa Crispy.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Willie Mays!

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

shrugs got me. I say Carrol, Beltran and that Tampa Bay catcher discussed earlier. I have nothing against letting Torres hit himself back into the lineup, but I would not count on him producing like 2010.

by Myemail21479 on Oct 12, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think anyone does

What you’re missing is that the version in 2011 was an above average player, an asset to any team.

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by marcello on Oct 12, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t deny his value at his price. I deny that he should be starting if he hits like he did. Considering the Giants strengths and weaknesses, he is not a fit as a starter. Giants are top 2-3 SO team, and horrible offensively.

by Myemail21479 on Oct 12, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wins are wins. If the Giants get a decent hitter for the top of the lineup, Torres can hit 8th or 9th. If he is worth 2-3 wins, he should start even if he’s hitting .130.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Either would be more feasible. I’d prefer the latter. Or even better:

Furcal, Swisher, and Shoppach.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

SSS

Scutaro Swisher and Shoppach

by LPKingsFan on Oct 12, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would create massive confusion on McC.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

We don't really know what their payroll flexibility is at this point.

So much comes down to arbitration and contract negotiations.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm really wondering

how many of the guys they will take to a hearing or vice versa. It’s going to be tight this year so I wouldn’t be surprised to see some of those hearings at all. Unless they non-tender everyone they don’t intend to sign.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

One of the reasons players like Keppinger and Ramirez will be non-tendered.

Luxury items when you consider what they contribute to the team relative to their cost.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

I think those two are definitely goners, but I wonder if they’ll try to fight it out with Cody or Torres or someone if they think they can win a hearing. I can’t even remember the last hearing they had.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ramirez has some trade value. Not sure about Keppinger.

by shankbone on Oct 12, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Grant showed some magic site earlier this year

That made Keppinger a type A FA in 2012 if we don’t arb him this year. I am not against trading him and J Sanchez (which is what 6-7 mil unless they non tender him).

So we get rid of Keppinger and Sanchez never recovers from his injury, what do we do then? I think he is just insurance policy now, especially since he was not “free” like Bill Hall.

by Myemail21479 on Oct 12, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Play Fontenot.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe

Maybe Pill can play 2b in a pinch? Didn’t he get some games in the minors.

Fontenot is about the same price as Keppinger.

by Myemail21479 on Oct 12, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

He can “play” second. The difference between Fontenot and Keppinger is that Fontenot can play multiple positions.

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by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

sure he did

and Ryan Doumit is an outfielder.

Fontenot can also play SS and 3B, which makes him the utility guy on the roster when Freddy is healthy. Keppinger is useless for that.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fontenot costs waaaaaaaaay less than Kepp.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

And considerably more handsome.

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

But how stoppable is his bat?

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like ’em both, but I guess Fonty is cuter.

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by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

You bet.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mmmhmm

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

I thought they were both 2.5-3 mil a year each.

by Myemail21479 on Oct 12, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fontenot made $1.05M last year, Keppinger made $2.3M.

These numbers inflate every year as they approach FA. Both are entering their third year of arbitration, but Fontenot was a super two, so he has an extra year left.

I’d expect Fontenot to cost ~$1.5M, whereas Keppinger will be worth closer to $3, which is expensive for a guy who is exclusively a backup 2B. Sign one or the other, and sign Fontenot.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

The question is who needs him to start, or wants him bad enough to trade for him?

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the NBA is still on strike.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cody's a straight-up free agent.

Unless he signs a deep AAV discount to get 3 years or something, I think he’s done as a Giant.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

They should offer him arb.

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by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is he a Type-B?

I imagine he’d decline, as he’s openly stated that he’s seeking a multi-year deal. But it wouldn’t be hard for him to game the Giants and accept in order to get a big paycheck, which would really eff the Giants’ offseason in the a.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

They would be able to trade him if they had to, I think.

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by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

He could

But isn’t ARB early in the FA cycle?

by Myemail21479 on Oct 12, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I'm not mistaken

Teams have a deadline to offer arbitration to pending FAs. The player can decline and file for free agency, which brings draft pick compensation into play.

If the team does not offer arbitration, they just become a free agent.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but not early enough to keep Brian Sabean and Michael Tucker apart.

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by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oops. And yes.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

This year, Shoppach got 253 plate appearances and was worth 1.4 rWAR. If we signed him to a 2 yr $5.5 mil deal, and he put up 1.4 WAR in the first season, he’s already paid for himself. 1.4 WAR is probably worth around $7mil on the open market.

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by free f.p. #14 on Oct 12, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

the problem is the Giant’s lack of payroll flexibility especially if people want them to sign Beltran, Reyes, and/or Rollins…

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

True. But I’ve already pretty much given up the idea of the GINATS BRAZZ

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by free f.p. #14 on Oct 12, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh. Post fail. What I meant to say was I’ve given up the idea of the GINATS BRAZZ signing any of those players. I think we’ll sign some crappy SS for $6 mil and have some room left over.

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by free f.p. #14 on Oct 12, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think the market for shortstops is going be much cheaper (Rollins and Reyes excluded) than most people have been presuming.

The market is more saturated with realistic SS options than last year when Uribe and Tejada were pretty much the top FAs.

My blind estimation is that the Giants could get the likes of Furcal, Gonzales, or Carroll for around $4M.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I could live with Furcal for a 1 yr $4 mil. Ok hitter, not a butcher in the field, $4 mil would probably be a bargain.

But he’s only 33, so Carroll at age 36 is a much more likely option.

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by free f.p. #14 on Oct 12, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dammit. 37, will be 38 next February. I was going off the top of my head. LOLme!

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by free f.p. #14 on Oct 12, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

How much would Yuni cost?

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by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like, how many wins would he cost?

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

THIS

If the payroll is really gonna stay around 125 mil I see us having little chance of signing Beltran or Rollins and anyone discussing Reyes is living in a fantasy world

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by DFARowand on Oct 12, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

They should increase payroll though tbh

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by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wishcast away.

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by speckops on Oct 12, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fainy Ray Dund

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by rotorueter on Oct 12, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure if a new GM in Boston makes this more or less likely

But I want Lowrie, dammit.

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by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 10:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Would Boston trade Lowries for certain LHSP pitcher the Giants have?

heck they can two Giants LHSP not named Bumgarner.

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think its pretty likely they just promote Cherington

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by DFARowand on Oct 12, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

So he's expendable!

/hopes

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by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

/knows two things are not connected

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by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jonathan Sanchez is available!

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by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

So which Giants will most likely be gone by the start of the 2012 Season?

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by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 11:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Whiteside, Keppinger, Lopez, RamRam, and probably Beltran.

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

My great fear is that Torres will be among this group, but I rationally don’t believe it.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

That would be the McC meltdown of all meltdowns.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 12, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure if I dread that more

or dread seeing him ride the pine all season while some “upgrade” plays CF.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or...

…having to buy a round-trip BART ticket to the Oakland Coliseum to watch Andres play CF?

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 12, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is the ultimate in dread to me

by shankbone on Oct 12, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rajai Davis says hi

That would be pretty terrible, but it’s certainly not without precedent.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

CABRERA

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL U he will be there and you know it!

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by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Like Guillen

he was never a Giant

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

MDR, PtB….

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by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

PtB might still be back.

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

As a bench coach, hopefully nothing more than that.

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by free f.p. #14 on Oct 12, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

no!

MLB Network! Down with Mitch Williams, Larry Bowa, and the annual Phillies in 5 guarantee!

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

They are contractually obligated to say that to get good ratings.

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by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mitchie! Mitchie Mitchie! Hopefully somebody will hire Larry Bowa but Williams is going nowhere.

MDR on a $1mm minor league contract? No go? No power, but he can singles hit and play a few positions decently.

by shankbone on Oct 12, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck it.

I’m going to watch Once More with Feeling before I start lesson planning.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 11:03 AM PDT reply actions  

And I’m going to eat bopis while doing it.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

And I’ll probably still be in this thread, too.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

But then, I’m lesson planning.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love that episode.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Watch Game of Thrones instead!

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Be one of the COOL fanboys.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you’re addressing me, the answer is no. SB is already on me about reading The Watchmen, and that’s about all the geekery I can take for the next five years.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

that movie was baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad…. i dont read comic books so i cant comment on that

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by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Avoid The Watchmen. GoT is way better. No teleporting octopus monsters in GoT.

Seriously. That’s the denouement of The Watchmen. A teleporting octopus monster. Created with the magic of Hollywood.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m having a ridiculously hard time getting into GoT. I may try watching the show first.

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by rotorueter on Oct 12, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

The show is fantastic.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah its much easier to watch the show first then dig into the second book.

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by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I actually thought the opposite, that it was hard to keep track of who was who— especially as all the Jon, Rob, and Theon looked almost the same- and the book explained a lot of the things I was missing. Which is why I stopped watching the show to read the books. I should also admit that I’m still confused as hell when I read the books.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is the problem I have with the fantasy genre.

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been reading the Wiki every now and then just to keep up. I’m finding that I can barely remember something that happened three chapters ago, let alone a book ago or some random character who suddenly becomes a major player two books later.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can see how this would be frustrating but I’ll bet it allows one to enjoy them over and over.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can see the need to do a thorough re-read after you read it the first time but unike JPonry and others, I think I’ll save it for the next season. I love the books but I need to read things that don’t involve dragons and knights and zombie like creatures. Something involving, you know, real people and real things and a real world.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

My fantasy novel only has like 6 characters.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very strict word count restrictions?

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just following the thesis guidelines.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Pac-Man: A Chomping Dot, His Main Squeeze, and Four Ravenous Flashing Monsters”, by How E. Theyscored.

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Video game porn?

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

You gotta hang with it for a bit. Bear in mind that literally every character is significant.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

ROZ!

I rhyme with freak.

by shanghaijim on Oct 12, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Important for exposition! And bewbs.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s not how the movie ends.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not just an octopus. It’s also a vagina!

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

But enough about hentai.

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

words jctgamer has probably never uttered in his life.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Oct 12, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

He already bought me the book. I’m going to read it. So, you know, go cuddle your hodor or whatever.

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by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Watchmen is good!

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

So he keeps telling me.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've been watching the "ultimate cut" of the movie

I’ve found I enjoy it much more than the theatrical version.

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by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's pretty good

I’ll be interested to hear what you think of the ending. People seem to either fall into the ‘genius!’ or ‘dumb!’ camps.

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by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think the effectiveness of the ending has less to do with what Veidt does and more to do with what he seems to realize after.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bunnies aren’t just cute like everybody supposes
They got them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses
And what’s with all the carrots?
What do they need such good eyesight for anyway?
Bunnies, bunnies, it must be bunnies

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

The direction of that sequence actually bothers me. The camera goes all fucky. I get the reasoning, but it looks terrible.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

You mean how the lights go dark, there’s a spotlight on Anya as she rocks out or the swoop over to her from the Scoobies?

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kind of the whole thing. The spotlight zoomy wobbly stuff, the crickets… it plays like an oddly amateurish sequence to me.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, specifically the Anya section, though. Not the entire song.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

But her fear of bunnies is always comedy gold, especially when she’s belting it out like that. It’s a nice break from all the hidden subtext lurking beneath the song and references to the amount of times the lead character has died.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been wanting to watch it for a few weeks, but my time has been sucked to hell.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOLBUFFY

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

As I recall, this is Joss Whedon’s favorite episode, while Once More With Feeling is considered to be the fan favorite.

When I originally watched the show, I never knew Sarah Michelle Gellar was so tiny.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Oct 12, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sigh….SMG was so cute (and often hot) when she had her baby fat then she lost it, had eating issues, and never quite recovered back to her early season hotness. Stupid actresses and their eating disorders

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH DAWN

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Xander’s still skinny!

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

You get to the big dance and “you fuckers grabbed me out of heaven” part yet? Sarah just kills it in that scene

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

The episode just ended. There are some timing issues with a few jokes in the musical numbers that always bug me, but then a couple that are perfectly timed, too.

I don’t like his songs as much as some of the others (though they beat out Tara’s), but I always feel for Giles in that episode. It’s too bad that the two actual singers in the bunch got kind of screwed song-wise.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

who’s songs? Buffy’s?

Giles got one really good song. Tara a meh song but the duet with Giles was great and I could care less for the Anya/Xander song. Sarah can’t really sing but it’s kind of endearing that despite the fact she originally refused to do it, gave it the ole college try and sang her little, anorexic heart out. Most of her songs are pretty depressing and sad so which makes them even harder to sing.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the Xander/Anya duet, though it does have a few of those timing issues. I like the group numbers. I like Spike’s number. Sarah’s songs don’t sound great, but they’re among the most functional of the episode. I like the demon’s songs. Willow and Dawn get next to nothing, so they don’t count. Tara’s main song is just not very good. Her duet with Giles is nice, but it’s only a handful of lines.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giles’s main song is weird for me. I like the moment, but the lyrics don’t feel polished to me for some reason.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Michelle and Alyson begged off singing so that’s why they weren’t featured. Michelle took dance when she was younger and that’s why she got the dance sequence. As for the rest, Joss pretty much whipped it up in a few weeks and put together the episode in about a 3-4 week period. Not only had he never done something like that before, he had to teach himself piano before he even started. So I can see why it’s a little sloppy here and there but the whole "hey kids, let’s put on a show aspect of it makes it more charming to me. It’s different then, say, the “Scrubs” musical (which was also great) that had the people who did “Avenue Q” put together.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying it’s a bad episode. It’s one of the most memorable episodes in the show’s run.

I thought we were just talking about what we liked more and less about it.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

What I love about it: Almost everything.

What I don’t love about it: “Something to Sing About.”

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I know. I just know way too much about the show and like it so much I went a little AV Club there. The episode is that much more amazing when you know all the backstories, like Joss having to teach himself the piano to write it. And TL2, what don’t you like about “Something to Sing About?” It’s not the best or most melodic song on there but if you put the song with the visuals (like Buffy’s face when she does her big reveal), it makes it one of the best ones.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t like the song. I like the book numbers.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

There aren’t enough people named Bruce anymore.

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by free f.p. #14 on Oct 12, 2011 11:15 AM PDT reply actions  

You know?

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's not the same without pelicans.

You know?

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by EliminateMe on Oct 12, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is my dad’s name. And my next door neighbor’s.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Oct 12, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d like to see more people named Lenny AND Bruce.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 12, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I prefer when people only have one first name.

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by rotorueter on Oct 12, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever you say, Leland.

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

:O

I didn’t mean it that way.

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by rotorueter on Oct 12, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

/Bruce Lee karate chops rotorueter

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 12, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I meant that you should stick to one first name. As in, Bruce Lee shouldn’t alternate between Lenny and Bruce.

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by rotorueter on Oct 12, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gotcha

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 12, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

My cousin doesn’t know karate.

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Liar.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

karate=japanese
bruce lee= not japanese

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by rotorueter on Oct 12, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not completely unrelated.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

So only japanese people can know karate?

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by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

YES

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by rotorueter on Oct 12, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

hmmmm….. so i guess by being from japan my wife must automatically know karate….. interesting….

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by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t you know all Asians know their respective martial arts?

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, they can make televisions out of watches!

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by EliminateMe on Oct 12, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

But my mom isn’t Mexican and she makes enchiladas.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Oct 12, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, one of those things just isn’t true.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re right! I just called her – she’s totally Mexican!

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Oct 12, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Johnny Disaster is Korean!

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s six feet tall though, so he could probably still kick your ass.

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well I’m six fee tall so… yeah he probably still could.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

My younger cousin is named Bruce.

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have a toy named Bruce.

by City Girl on Oct 12, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s a bit personal.

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by rotorueter on Oct 12, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh my

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

/big-headed toy reference

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

bork me!

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by rotorueter on Oct 12, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

My uncle is named Bruce.

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by kdl on Oct 12, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, my friend’s nephew who is, like, 7. I always thought it was an interesting choice of name for a kid of that generation.

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by kdl on Oct 12, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

(cue obscure Monty Python reference towards all Australians being named Bruce)

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dated a boy in high school named Bruce. And by dated I mean we went to get a soda together, stared at each other awkwardly, and never talked to each other again.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 12, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

You just described ninety-five percent of my dates.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

In even the worst of date scenarios, I can make some kind of conversation.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

In french!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Huh? He’s never mentioned anything like this. EVER.

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by rotorueter on Oct 12, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t speak French.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Lars was going for more of the french kissing type of french conversation.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Oct 12, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was a reference to his French once-girlfriend.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

just that one time

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

You had a French girlfriend? Is that like the mythical Canadian girlfriend that no one has ever met that some guys have?

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Oct 12, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

SHE'S REAL DAMMIT

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

SHE LIVED IN A CHALET PERCHED ON TOP OF A PILE OF CROISSANTS

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

HOW COULD SHE DO THAT AND MAINTAIN HER SUPERMODEL STATUS?

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, those French don’t know how to build anything right.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Oct 12, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see why it didn’t work out.

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know, I can’t think of a single personal acquaintance of mine, however distant, named Bruce. Your observation is confirmed.

by non sequitur on Oct 12, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Initially read that as Grant.

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by speckops on Oct 12, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

A NO CLASS action against Grant!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Vile, classless action

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by speckops on Oct 12, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

By Willie McCovey?

Interesting side bar, my uncle told me he would play golf with McCovey and that he would never tip his caddy.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Oct 12, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Breaking

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, that doesn't seem right
evilbunnyrabbit 11:21 AM on October 12, 2011
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by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hipsters.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bicyclists.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's nothing wrong with hipsters

It’s just youth culture. I read this long article about hipsters, and, while it didn’t make me want to hang out with the hipsters, it did make me really hate the smug, superior asshole who wrote it.

by taliesin on Oct 12, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

As someone in the same age demographic as hipsters,

it is not “youth culture.” It’s just the latest commercially appropriated counterculture whereby latchkey children and trust fund babies assert their individuality by ascribing to a painfully exacting set of cultural rules.

Though as my sister has pointed out, they do serve a purpose to society in that they are gentrifying certain dilapidated urban areas.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

It seems strange to me that latchkey children and trust fund babies would have anything in common.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then you’d be surprised how many affluent adults use money as a substitution for parenting.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not following.

I thought latchkey programs were for poor kids who went there after school until their parents could pick them up. Why would rich kids be going there?

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

The more general definition:

A latchkey kid or latchkey child is a child who returns from school to an empty home because his or her parent or parents are away at work, or a child who is often left at home with little or no parental supervision.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see. I always thought latchkey was an after school program. There was one in my hometown anyway. It was basically a place for kids to hang out and play until 6 or 7.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s kind of a depressing name for an after school program.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Oct 12, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

great name for a band though…

The Latchkey Kids!

by capn on Oct 12, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

isn’t that what i said?

by capn on Oct 12, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Posted the same minute you posted.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is me!

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Welcome to the club.

We have ice cream and attention-seeking issues.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

My understanding is that Latchkey kids are kids with two working parents who let themselves into the house at the end of the day. It is usually middle class folks. Rich people who leave trust funds to their children would just have a nanny at the house so the kids would not need a key….

by capn on Oct 12, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

But in that scenario the nanny provides the key function only, not the parenting function, so lack of parenting/unsupervisedness of the kids remains the same, which was Solidarity’s point.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Oct 12, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

And there are plenty of upper middle class families with latchkey kids. You don’t get wealthy without working long hours at some point.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

the latest commercially appropriated counterculture

Right, that’s what youth culture is. Obviously each generation has multiple competing genres of youth culture, but the great majority of them would fit that description, going back at least as far as Elvis, and probably back to jazz in the 20s.

by taliesin on Oct 12, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, it's a sub-section of youth culture.

I assure you, most youths don’t run around wearing ugly cardigans that are made to look like they survived a gasoline fire on the early ’60s.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly. Some run around with their pants strapped to their hamstrings and wear flatbill hats.

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 12, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right
each generation has multiple competing genres of youth culture

by taliesin on Oct 12, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't regard many of them as counterculture or commercially appropriated.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pro tip:

They need a central culture to be countering.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

???

What’s that even mean? Hip-hop culture is pretty different from “mainstream” American culture, even as aspects of it have been incorporated into the mainstream. And it certainly did form as a kind of counterculture. Every subculture rejects certain aspects of the dominant culture.

by taliesin on Oct 12, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

And it’s the dominant culture to which I’m referring. Youth culture is not a counterculture of itself. That makes no sense. There are sub-cultures, like hipster culture, hip hop culture, skater culture, etc. They are reactions to the dominant culture; they can’t counter themselves because that makes no fucking sense. There’s plenty of youth culture that is not countercultural. Which was my original point.

Don’t see why this is complicated.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of a recent This American Life about patent trolls: When Patents Attack!

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by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember hearing parts of that episode. Also, it convinced me that I could make wayyy more money as a patent attorney than a chemist if I wished to sacrifice my soul.

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by speckops on Oct 12, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, there’s actually a checkbox you fill out when you take the patent bar.

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Stupid lawsuit…trademarks/logos do not need to be registered to be protected.

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by CalBear949 on Oct 12, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Their jackets blatantly copy the Giants gear anyway..

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by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

They sell all their crap to tourists who don’t realize that it gets cold, though.

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by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baseball America blurb on our prospects
Brandon Belt (ranked 4th in Pacific Coast League, graduated)

• Eric Surkamp (ranked 11th in Eastern League)

• Francisco Peguero (ranked 14th in Eastern League)

• Gary Brown (ranked 3rd in California League)

• Tommy Joseph (ranked 11th in California League)

• Chris Dominguez (ranked 17th in California League)

• Joe Panik (ranked 4th in Northwest League)

• Jesus Galindo (ranked 9th in Northwest League)

• Clayton Blackburn (ranked 4th in Arizona League)

• Joan Gregorio (ranked 18th in Arizona League)

The Giants’ system had about as good of a year as could have been hoped for. The team got a handful of players to the big leagues, was able to make a key trade at the deadline for a playoff push and saw several prominent players have impressive seasons. On top of that, first-round shortstop Joe Panik had a great debut and the team had outfielder Jesus Galindo breakout by stealing 47 bases over 62 games. The Giants also drafted Texas prep righthander Kyle Crick, who was up to 97 mph this spring, as well as Oregon State catcher Andrew Susac and Southern California first baseman Ricky Oropesa.

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I love this.
The Giants’ system had about as good of a year as could have been hoped for.

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by kdl on Oct 12, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cool!

I have high hopes for the Susac/Crick/Oropesa/Panik group. Plus the first three of them interact a lot on twitter, which is funny.

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by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still not sold on Panik,

if simply because nobody can seem to agree on him. He was a reach for the first round, but then he did well in Short Season A, but maybe he just got drafted first to push down slot for Crick and Susac, and he projects as a second basemen but maybe he can actually be a shortstop, even though he’s supposed to be an offense-first middle infielder like a poor man’s Jeff Kent…

I don’t get it at all.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the biggest concern with Panik is the lack of power

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by marcello on Oct 12, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, projected ceiling is Freddy Sanchez with less glove?

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does he hack as much as Keppinger? Because the one thing this team needs is more guys who won’t take walks.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Freddy isn't super-patient either,

but Keppinger is Aaron Rowand-level unwilling to take a walk.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kepp’s career minor league line: .322/.375/.422 with 192 walks in 2492 PA (.08). Panik hit .341/.401/.467 in 304 PA at SK and walked 28 times for a rate of .09. Not too different if you ask me….

by capn on Oct 12, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Note the part where you said 304 PA at SK.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

More walks than Freddy or Kepp

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by marcello on Oct 12, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

/tries to find a comp

…Jamey Carroll?

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

/swoon

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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe

Although it looks like Carroll strikes out more than Panik (although that’s apples and oranges right now). Maybe Eckstein? Comps are tough.

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by marcello on Oct 12, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why less glove?

Sanchez, like the majority of major league second basemen, was originally a SS who wasn’t good enough to stick there. I don’t see a particular reason to think Panik would be worse at making the transition than Sanchez was.

by taliesin on Oct 12, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

My understanding is that Panik is regarded as an offense-first middle infielder. Sanchez is one of the better everyday defensive 2B in the league.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

But at one time

Apparently he was an offense-first SS.

by taliesin on Oct 12, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the issue with Panik’s defense is his range, not his glove.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

In my gigantic sample of one game, I thought his arm didn’t look very impressive on plays in the hole.

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 12, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

It might have been his arm, actually. Either way, he projects as a perfectly adequate second baseman.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suspect this is so.

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 12, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s concern over his arm due to labrum surgery. You have seen a lot more games…game than me though.

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hawt

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently, Sabean’s been really lucky with his draft picks lately

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let’s take him to VEGAS!

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 12, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or try to convince him he’s supposed to be running a team in San Francisco, New Mexico.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

ICWYDT.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

They see me rollin
They hatin

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rollins?

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That doesn't look anything like Ryan Howard

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by marcello on Oct 12, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what I was thinking.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

/gif with the dude waving the K sign and pointing at the camera

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by rotorueter on Oct 12, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's been too long since that one was posted.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

But he was caught looking

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by drdata24 on Oct 12, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just a glance!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is not actually shopping...

…he is just looking!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

You can't see it in this picture

But he keeps running in to things as he isn’t used to being so fast.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Oct 12, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to love going to Whole Foods for their deserts but they stopped making all my favorites. :(

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Oct 12, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are having a sale on the Gobi!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Firefox spell check has failed me for the last time!

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Oct 12, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

http://www.csnne.com/10/12/11/Giardi-Sox-clubhouse-became-a-poison-cen/landing_redsox.html?blockID=576214&feedID=3352

A consummate pro, Crawford had once grabbed Pat Burrell and thrown him up against a wall, angrily telling Burrell that his unprofessional ways were not accepted in the Rays’ clubhouse. Tampa Bay management had their speedy outfielder’s back, trading Burrell a short time later.

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by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 12:00 PM PDT reply actions  

I thought they just released him?

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah nice reporting.

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Oct 12, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cashay

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 12, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cash—hey!

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by bgunn on Oct 12, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s the holiday display of religious figurines, right?

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t start with me.

I rhyme with freak.

by shanghaijim on Oct 12, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Catchee

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Protective

Crawford didn’t see it coming, but he felt it. A sharp blow to his jaw. The world spun out of control and he landed on his back with a painful thud. What the hell happened? Burrell wasn’t in a position to punch him, and no one else was around. The outfielder looked up and saw a shadow standing above him. His vision came back into focus and the face appeared.

Aubrey Huff.

“Don’t touch him,” Huff growled. “Don’t ever touch him, or I’ll end you.”

Before the bewildered Crawford could respond, Huff disappeared.

Crawford rubbed his sore jaw and looked at Burrell. “What the fuck…”

Burrell shrugged. “I didn’t see anything.”

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

When I saw this

Crawford had once grabbed Pat Burrell and thrown him up against a wall

I was waiting for something like what you wrote.

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get this at all

The article doesn’t give any indication as to what Burrell was doing, so essentially Crawford is a consummate pro because he angrily throws teammates up against walls when he deems their ways unprofessional.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Oct 12, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

wasn’t Crawford a bit of a headcase to begin with?

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah he sounds like a hot-tempered asshole who was jealous of how much money Burrell was making as a free agent while he was still under team control.

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Oct 12, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

The FO was doing a lot to keep him calm and sane so they backed him up on a lot of things. I’m guessing maybe PtB wasn’t really the one in the wrong there but got scapegoated for it anyways

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think PTB was either keeping order on a rookie or hazing, depending on your viewpoint.

by shankbone on Oct 12, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s why “consummate professional” is sarcastic.

I rhyme with freak.

by shanghaijim on Oct 12, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh shit, it wasn’t sarcastic.

wut

I rhyme with freak.

by shanghaijim on Oct 12, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

They meant that he is “consummated.”

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

From the videos I’ve seen of Crawford, he seems like a cool guy. He’s humble and thoughtful.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Oct 12, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

"YOU DON'T WIN GAMES BY NOT SWINGING THE BAT, BURRELL!"

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dunston'd

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!

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by bigboneded on Oct 12, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pertinent Crawford quote:
Before the game, he was asked what was the biggest difference between the Rays and the Sox.

“It’s all baseball. But it’s a little different,’’ he said. "It’s more a younger team [in Tampa], so it was more like party central all the time. [In Boston] it’s a little more calmer, a little more conservative. That’s probably the biggest difference.’’

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2011/06/15/miller_on_the_way_up/?page=2

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Oct 12, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL DAMON

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

See, he is the type of guy I worry about appearing in a uniform.

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too bad he showed up after the sodomy.

by Monkeyking42 on Oct 12, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I call bullshit.

I would LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE to see Carl Crawford try and throw Pat Burrell against a wall.

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by scout6 on Oct 12, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Consummate pros don’t question Veteran Clubhouse Presence.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is another reason I think the whole veteran leadership thing is bogus

Pat Burrell on Giants: Important veteran leader who leads, is veterany.

Pat Burrell on Ray: Malcontent deserving of wall-throws.

Maybe it’s just because he was good for the Giants and sucked for the Rays…

But that, of course, would be me ignoring the human element in favor of numbers.

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have you ever studied group dynamics? The same person can fill a completely different role in different groups.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that's what he's getting at

Players aren’t inherently good or bad in the clubhouse, so getting them based on that is silly.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh ok. I thought he was saying the existence a of a veteran leader in the clubhouse is BS.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

that was the last thread

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by Merope on Oct 12, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then there’s the idea that Crawford was a headcase babied by the organization, the last person you’d call a “consummate professional,” and that Pat was made to look bad because Crawford was there golden boy and had to make them happy. It’s hard to be a veteran type leader if the organization doesn’t back you.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course, Veteran Clubhouse Presence is copyright The Good Phight, so that would be a Phillies thing.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not so much that you view a baseball team as something that should be run with no humanity. It’s that I suspect you want society and life to be run that way too.

I rhyme with freak.

by shanghaijim on Oct 12, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That seems uncalled for.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

It seems like a reasonable encapsulation.

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 12, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re next, map boy

I rhyme with freak.

by shanghaijim on Oct 12, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

No violins, J.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I came back from lunch and my bid is still leading in my eBay auction!

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 12:06 PM PDT reply actions  

UGH

Didn’t notice this part: 1 day 5 hours 18 mins left on the auction.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate when that happens.

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate when you get outbid with 1 second left…..

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by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just set my max bid to the actual max amount I’m willing to pay and then if I lose (even right at the end) oh well.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is a nice feature of Ebay

 I don’t remember it always being like that….

by Myemail21479 on Oct 12, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think its recent to the last few years.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

What did you bid on?

Link?

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by bigboneded on Oct 12, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ganon, actually.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

He lost the bidding on Slippy and Falco.

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by rotorueter on Oct 12, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I tell you do you promise not to bid? It is a car stereo.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah this one is nice too. My factory one went kaput so I’m looking for a replacement. It takes USB or SD Card and plays DVDs, which will be nice for little jhiat00 on road trips.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds good. You could also just get the little jhiatt00 and ipod touch or if you want to go nuts and iPad. They make traveling with kids almost painless.

by capn on Oct 12, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

So do ruffies

If you give them to the kid, there’s no whining; if you take them yourself, you don’t remember the whining. Whichever way you prefer to do it.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Oct 12, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow! that was kind of harsh. You have kids?

by capn on Oct 12, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope! Lots of nieces and nephews though.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Oct 12, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Strap them kids in
Give ’em a little bit of benedryl in a cherry coke

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Oct 12, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gonna have us a time

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 12, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

My oldest has her phone and an ipod. My youngest has an ipod and a DS. They still fight and are a pita to travel with in the car.

by City Girl on Oct 12, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s only 2.5 so I don’t think he will be getting any sort of fun gadget just yet. Although this particular car stereo has an A/V out so I could conceivably get a headrest screen. That may be a little overboard though.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Get him a magnetic doodle pad or an etch a sketch.

by City Girl on Oct 12, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bruce Wayne aka Batman. I don’t know what you guys were thinking.

by City Girl on Oct 12, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

12" action figure.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Oct 12, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just takes 2 AA batteries and he’s ready to infiltrate the criminal underworld.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Oct 12, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s got a magnetic doodle (although I think his aqua doodle is way cooler).Matchbox cars and little toy planes seem to keep him occupied the best though.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm. I just found a 16-mm film of Today’s May, 1971, broadcast from Romania.

Hmm.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Today's what?

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

May, 1971 broadcast from Romania. Says so right there.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah. OK. I've been proofreading for an hour now.

Which makes me think I might not be doing a good job.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

TL2’s comment did have at least one extra comma in it.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but I’m popular.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is true.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that's what threw me

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would have worked with no commas at all; the one after 1971 is certainly unnecessary.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Much like this discussion about commas.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Much like most of the discussions we have here.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

or just “here” in general.

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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Oct 12, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but they’re fun. I always debate about the placement of a comma after the year like I did above. Does that also apply to a date written in full, i.e., “The May 10, 1971, edition of Today”?

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would write it as the May 10, 1971 edition of Today. Otherwise there’s an awkward pause after 1971.

I may be entirely wrong about this.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting. I would consult my AP stylebook, but it’s all the way over on the shelf.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

mine is upstairs, probably in a box, a box that is most likely underneath a bunch of other boxes.
I hear there’s this internet thing now though, people can look stuff up on it and stuff…

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by Merope on Oct 12, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is because of this site that I now subscribe to the Oxford comma.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I cancelled mine after it got too expensive. Plus, the articles lost a lot of quality.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I prefer my articles to be more direct.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can never remember whether I prefer to use it or not.

One thing that bugs me: punctuation inside quotations when it ísn’t in the original quotation. Why would you do that?

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I place my commas outside the quote marks.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s an American thing, right?

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

I changed my ways after living in England.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

WITH A TOAD IN EVERY HOLE

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

AND A JACKET ON EVERY POTATO

Joe Nobody: The slugging speedster the Giants need, at an irrationally low price.

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"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is, which means that I get marked down in English class when I don’t do it, which makes me angry because it’s so clearly wrong.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to get bonus points for using “ain’t” in essays.

I KID! I love this wacky region o’ mine.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

ain’t and y’all are fabulous words

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, contractions, but whatever.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I treasure them.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Y’all is an excellent word. It fills a glaring hole in standard English.

"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain

by EliminateMe on Oct 12, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

go to the teacher and make your argument

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately, I don’t actually have an argument other than its being aesthetically displeasing. I suppose it makes sense for it to be like that considering that the English language is itself aesthetically displeasing.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a quote. The original sentence doesn’t have a comma in it. Why are we quoting as though it did?

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because the rules say so, I guess.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

DO THE RULES OF LANGUAGE CEASE TO APPLY WHEN YOU LAND IN HEATHROW?!

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if they also cease to apply when you land in City.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

My line for grammar is that there are no grammar rules. There are only style rules. Grammar is made up of functional tools – things designed to serve certain purposes. Just as it’s essential for a carpenter to realize that you can’t saw something in half with a hammer (or, at least, to realize that if you try the results would be awful), it is essential for a carpenter of language to understand the capabilities of each tool at his or her disposal.

Like sawing a table with a hammer, you certainly CAN put a period in the middle of a sentence – you’re just not going to end up with what you want.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

It wouldn’t be the only time that we impose punctuation in a quote that doesn’t appear there. The ellipses is a quote mangler if we want to be tyrannical about the things inside the little quote-marks being exact to the source. Brackets. Sics. Lots of stuff. Most of those are clearly more functional, but they demonstrate clearly our willingness to fudge exactitude for convenience.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clearly.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

The ellipses are stand-ins for missing parts of the actual quote. Brackets, and the sics are there to clarify the actual quote. The punctuation is about the sentence in its entirety and does not belong inside the quotes. In my admitedly uneducated opinion.

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 12, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not arguing the function, but the idea that we can’t insert things between the quote marks because it’s not part of the original quote does not hold.

I like the extraneous punctuation outside the quote, as well, for the same reasons you cite. For what it’s worth, though, I don’t believe that a comma before the quote changes the sentence in any way more measurable than an ellipses. I could argue quite rationally that an ellipses is capable of doing infinitely more damage to meaning than a comma.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or, rather, that particular comma.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t care. What’s right is right. The quote, and any mangling of it deemed necessary by the writer, go inside the quotes. The punctuation goes outside the quotes, with the rest of the sentence. I’m quite dogmatic on this issue.

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 12, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay then.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

IT’S RIGHT VS WRONG HOWIE! CAN’T YOU SEE THAT?

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 12, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

It seems a matter of principle. There is certainly a logical process that dictates the comma come after. ’Tis as noble to follow that principle as any other backed by good, solid sense.

My own preference is to err on the side of confusion. Where there isn’t an especially meaningful amount at stake, I only strive for consistency.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Well have it your way”, he said.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

The argument seems simple enough to me: It’s a style issue, not a functional issue. Unless this is a Newspaper Class, there’s no reason to lose points for doing something that is functionally sound.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I WUZ GUNNA OUTBID U!!!

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

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by bigboneded on Oct 12, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

On first reading, I thought you were bidding for your lunch. That didn’t seem like a very efficient way to eat.

"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain

by EliminateMe on Oct 12, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rubs hands together “This sandwich is going to be delicious! Wait, what?! 1 day 15 hours left on the auction? I’m trying to buy today’s lunch, not Friday’s breakfast!”

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Oct 12, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

/lunch gets taken away by another bidder just as I’m going to take the first bite

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

“You sniped my taco!”

"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain

by EliminateMe on Oct 12, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT: Re: Epstein to the Cubs

Is there a chance Sabes gets a look? It is his hometown team and you’d have to think he would take it.

by capn on Oct 12, 2011 12:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Back to the Future predicts 2015 WS Champion Cubs.

Well this is signature.

by Snack on Oct 12, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by DFARowand on Oct 12, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

For real LOL’s maybe Sabes will take Boch with him?

by capn on Oct 12, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

They DO need a manager…

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bochy would probably do well in Boston. He lives in a semi-lobotomized state as it is so he would probably not pay any attention to the haters.

by capn on Oct 12, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

A commenter had a takedown of the Bay Genius so devastating it makes you appreciate Sabean more and more. So maybe they would take him

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can hope he will be distracted by the fact that TGWTWS

by capn on Oct 12, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

But he’ll hire Theo Epstein?

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Oct 12, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do they make gorilla suits in Brian’s size?

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Bay Area media isn’t tough enough for Brian to need a costume.

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Oct 12, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sabes came up as a Yankee Scout?

Would that not be sacrilegious or something?

by Myemail21479 on Oct 12, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought the Cubs said they wanted a GM who would bring modern statistical analysis along with scouting. I don’t think Sabes is on the radar.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

He would probably not play well with Bill James

by capn on Oct 12, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sabean + Bochy + B-Weezy for ???

Get ’er done Baer.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Oct 12, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wilson for Scutaro

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by ELOOIE on Oct 12, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sabean or Lowrie.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

done.

where do I sign?

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by ELOOIE on Oct 12, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’d probably just hire Ned Colletti to replace him.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

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by rotorueter on Oct 12, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

This would be like what the Dodgers did when they fired DePodesta and hired Agent Ned.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

The PSN network is under attack again.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 12:37 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL PSN NETWORK!

ATM MACHINES!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

What in the crap are you talkin?

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by rotorueter on Oct 12, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

PIN NUMBERS!

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

It seems odd to me how the two most prevalent examples of this both are used in conjunction with one another.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Oct 12, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

STOP PICKING ON SONY

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even identity thieves have to make a living!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s been almost 70 years since the end of WWII and they still hate Japan

by capn on Oct 12, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its virtual warfare. Legions of Chinese and N. Korean hackers attacking the imperial capitalists from Japan.

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Oct 12, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

They’re trying to learn Kung Fu!

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Oct 12, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best takedown of the Globe article
But the winner, the point at which the Globe simply turned off its brain and let someone dictate an irrational grudge straight onto the page, is this:
Other than [Jason] Varitek and [Tim] Wakefield, the only holdovers from Francona’s 2004 championship run were David Ortiz and Kevin Youkilis.

Yes, the Boston Red Sox had lost that gritty spirit that wins a World Series. Except for, you know, the players who were holdovers from Terry Francona’s 2007 championship run: Ortiz, Youkilis, Varitek, Wakefield, Ellsbury, Dustin Pedroia, J.D. Drew, Clay Buchholz, Josh Beckett, Jon Lester, Jonathan Papelbon, Hideki Okajima, and Daisuke Matsuzaka.

http://deadspin.com/5849135/whats-the-most-dishonest-sentence-in-the-boston-globes-red-sox-postmortem

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by DFARowand on Oct 12, 2011 12:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Well played Deadspin

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Oct 12, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but that team beat the Rockies.

That, like, barely counts.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yours is more of a parody

I enjoyed it

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by DFARowand on Oct 12, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bodacious tHTA'S?

"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti

by drdata24 on Oct 12, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very nice but there was nothing in there about a heartbroken Francona popping pain killers during the late innings because the late innings always reminded him of his ex-wife.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had a hard time following that

Could you dumb it down a little?

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by EliminateMe on Oct 12, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

~ 1/2 hour to baseball!

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Oct 12, 2011 12:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
For those asking: Tarp is still on the field here in Detroit, and it’s still raining, expected to rain. Could be a long, long, long day.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Berkman never lies.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

DAMMIT!

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Oct 12, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

THOSE DAMN BANKERS!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

The government totally made money on this rain delay!

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"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those fat cat meteorologists!

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Akbar!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a ham!

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Oct 12, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Ackbar is the best commander of those three. And he sucks. “The CDO market is collapsing? ALL CRAFT PREPARE TO RETREAT!”

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s ok – thunderstorms are forecast tonight for St Louis too.

Poor FOX … game may wander into their protected prime time schedule.

"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti

by drdata24 on Oct 12, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

At a set time, the baseball game will become animated!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

This time, the game will be played on computer.

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

or they can get some beer, some fried chicken, and play it as a video game

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

My wife just ordered this scratch pad for our cats...


_______
I bet our dog will chew it up

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by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

That cat’s name is Qbert

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t the Rays have a DJ cat?

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Rays are the coolest team ever.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Note that one of the statistics that he uses is RBI. I think it’s fair to say that Dr. Stat is evil.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

1) That’s like keyboard cat crossed with the rally monkey.
2) is that a DJ Hero setup?

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s like rally monkey but not evil.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's no DJ Roomba

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Oct 12, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

/cat plays with the box scratch pad comes in.

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by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Twitter Roast of @engeljen going on now!

Some FOXsports.com writer who ripped on Brandon McCarthy (which he promptly retweeted.)

Recent tweets:

@engeljen – “Love Moneyball, love Billy Beane, really do. Problem in baseball when fans championing FIPs instead of Ws, stats instead of championships.”

@engeljen – “This is really a ? Good Ps=playoff teams RT @cuppingmaster @jamesvenes @Sniff009 how is it McCarthy’s fault he’s not on a playoff team?”

by InTimmyWeTrust on Oct 12, 2011 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

See, this is why you’re never going to get a big time gig! ;)

by InTimmyWeTrust on Oct 12, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brandon McCarthy! Why can’t you be more like Coco Crisp!

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

A.J. Burnett is so good.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pierzynski gets in on the action!
Yes, absolutely I have before. Sometimes you’re just really struggling and you just say, "Hey, you know what, I need something to calm me down and let’s have a beer." A couple of us will do it together, and sometimes it works out. It’s just, sometimes you just need a rally beer. If you’re in extra innings and you’re in about the 15th inning and you really need to get going again, that sometimes works for you.

Pierzynski didn’t name any names beyond himself, but given that he’s played for the White Sox since 2005 that’s basically an admission that mid-game beer drinking goes on in Chicago’s clubhouse. He also revealed that several White Sox players drank shots before a 2008 playoff game against the Rays.

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/12/a-j-pierzynski-admits-to-drinking-during-games-because-sometimes-you-just-need-a-rally-beer

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by DFARowand on Oct 12, 2011 1:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes, absolutely I have before. Sometimes you’re just really struggling and you just say, “Hey, you know what, I need something to calm me down and let’s knee the trainer in the balls.” A couple of us will do it together, and sometimes it works out. It’s just, sometimes you just need a rally groin attack. If you’re in spring training and you’re in about the 15th game and you really need to get going again, that sometimes works for you.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Ozzie joined them for a couple of beers, that could explain half of the things he’s done over the years

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

BAH HA HA
He also revealed that several White Sox players drank shots before a 2008 playoff game against the Rays.

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
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by scout6 on Oct 12, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

There was a sign at Safeway stores in August/September that said SHOTS BEFORE SCHOOL in the typical varsity font. I thought that was a brilliant idea—Jack, SoCo, etc. Not MMR, Tdap, and the like. But I think that’s what Safeway meant.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 12, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some kids I know got suspended a few weeks ago for pregaming for school.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think that any of the students at my school are 21 or older.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I forget about all these children. I’m so damn old. :(

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 12, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha

El Person is 47 and part of an elite San Mateo County “21 Jump Street” squad.

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"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

I went to HS in the late 90s but I was high 9 out of 10 days.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

HAHA!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

So not much has changed.

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

That explains so much about my parents.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not green yet?

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Oct 12, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Done.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

We called it Tequila Sunrise in my high school

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 12, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

“He’s waiting for me to get out of my car”

This would be awesome set to some really scary music.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

That has to be an act. Right?

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Oct 12, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to take that camera away and smack her with it.

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 12, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure she was playing it up for the story. It was a report about two Turkeys in a Sacramento neighborhood that were chasing joggers and people walking by. The mailman was probably familiar with the turkeys as well.

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Oct 12, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is she talking about the Fall of Constantinople?

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

They use the same graphics package as Knoxville’s NBC affiliate.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is your opinion of PBS?

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love it.

I may not understand what you’re referring to.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pernicious Bear Snuggling

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes! Yes! I pledge my support often.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correction

Bear Berkman

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

/vomits repeatedly

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pernicious Poem Place

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are quite a few turkeys in this neck of the woods.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah in Carmichael by the American River there a lots of turkeys in the neighborhood.

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Oct 12, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

This bodes well for Thanksgiving on a budget.

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 12, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking more in the neighborhood of 10th and L … but okay.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Oct 12, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to live in Fair Oaks next to Lake Natoma and we had a really big group of them in my neighborhood.

"I never argue with people who say baseball is boring because baseball is boring. Except, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great."
-Joe Posnanski

by free f.p. #14 on Oct 12, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wheeler from Role Models

Hey, did you know that dinosaurs are not extinct? Because birds are dinosaurs. And they’re everywhere.

by InTimmyWeTrust on Oct 12, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can we just assume last season was the basically Busters Sophmore slump..(his 2010 Panda) and next year we will get posey’s version of 2011 Panda?

Please god, yes?!

I'm a failure. I can't even fake the death of a stripper.
-GOB Bluth

by ELOOIE on Oct 12, 2011 1:36 PM PDT reply actions  

FACT: BUSTER POSEY DOESN"T SLUMP EVER EVEN WHEN HE IS 90 HE WILL STILL HIT .300

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

HIS SISTER HITS .750

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

YOU MEAN .690

amirite?

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by son of ggf on Oct 12, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

You sir

are correct.

He cant slump.. the baseball gods had to remove him from the game to enforce the Sophomore slump.

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by ELOOIE on Oct 12, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he hits .284/.368/.389 (his 2011 line) every year, he’s still a really valuable player.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

thats why I say his “version” of a sophomore slump.

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by ELOOIE on Oct 12, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would be awesome if he were like 2010 again, of course. But I wouldn’t worry about it.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Buster was just getting going

I felt like April he was a little off, but with his sweet as sugar swing he still got some hits. His swing, batters eye, and baseball intelligence is up there, he will rake for a long time.

by Myemail21479 on Oct 12, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

His OBP was like .370 last year.

The main thing was that his power that wasn’t supposed to be there in the first place wasn’t there.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh, sure

one of the few remaining chances I have for watching day baseball (outdoor stadium, too boot) and it’s raining.
/LOL Me

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by son of ggf on Oct 12, 2011 1:45 PM PDT reply actions  

New rule: all stadiums are to be domes, so as not to interfere with FAUX’s prime time television offerings.

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by Merope on Oct 12, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

All stadiums are to have retractable domes so FOX executive can decide the best lighting.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

All retractable domes are to stay in closed position to guarantee consistency.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

moar LOL Me

/to boot

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by son of ggf on Oct 12, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Out of curiosity I did this touch typing test and I guess I type 70 words per minute.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

69 the second time. And it was a LOTR passage!

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

76, wuss

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

copy/paste

WHAT NOW?!

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

typing speed = infinite

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

ooh

What passage?

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t notice that it tells you until the next few times I did it. It was saying something about a long ride and how he was trying to recall everything that happened but it was blurry. I’m thinking it was Pippin in Return of the King. Isn’t that when him and Gandolf rush to Minus Tirith?

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that’s right at the end of Book 3 in The Two Towers. I love that part.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh ok. Yeah that is when everything starts coming together and getting exciting.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I may be a cheater
Your speed was: 2787wpm.

Congratulations! You made no mistakes, practice does make perfect.

(111 WPM no mistakes on the non-cheating)

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow that is fast.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Write a novel in an hour.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I admit that you are better than I am. … But I was typing left-handed.

by non sequitur on Oct 12, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

75 and 78 WPM
The British spellings threw me off.

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by Natto on Oct 12, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

49 and 51 :(

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Oct 12, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

90 wpm

No mistakes.

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by kdl on Oct 12, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

/awed hush

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s just because all I do all day is type.

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I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Oct 12, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

me too and I can’t crack 75.

I’ll try it later after drinking tequila.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 12, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

73

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Oct 12, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

103 wpm, no mistakes

… though I had to backtrack a few times.

by non sequitur on Oct 12, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

How long will the rain delay be?

by Hyoton on Oct 12, 2011 2:09 PM PDT reply actions  

The rest of your life.

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apropos of the batting order discussion upthread

Is it just me, or would Buster Posey make a good #2 hitter?

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I’ve been calling for it since the day he made the majors.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea

Did your game update his skills online? My Xbox has his old stats. My buddy, who uses XBL updated to his 2011 stats and Beltran was on the team. Cool but… I was curious if any of his attributes were modified too.

by Myemail21479 on Oct 12, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe if he played on the Rangers or Yankees but as he’s the closest thing we have to a cleanup hitter, he’ll probably stay a cleanup hitter. Unless we go out and get one, of course.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 12, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s patient, he hits the ball the other way, and he gets more ABs in the #2 spot. It makes perfect sense.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

He should lead off

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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, those thunder thighs give me cause for concern.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 12, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

POSEY FOR SHORTSTOP!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only if they keep Whitey to be designated pinch-runner!

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by natteringnabob on Oct 12, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is “concern” a euphemism for “arousal”?

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

This! The batting order should be determined by OBA entirely. And your spot in the order would change on a daily basis slowly stabilizing as the season wore on.

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Oct 12, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

For the first 20 games you would use last season’s stats.

1. Beltran RF
2. Posey C
3. Pablo 3B
4. Burrell LF :(
5. DeRosa 1B
6. F. Sanchez 2B
7. Ross CF
8. Fontenot SS

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Oct 12, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is like Freddy Sanchez with Power

I would rather have a healthy Freddy hitting 2 spot.

by Myemail21479 on Oct 12, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Posey is better at getting on base than Sanchez, too. So, he’s really just a better hitter than Freddy. Which means he should be hitting higher in the order than Freddy.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

The prototypical #2 hitter

Is actually not a particularly good hitter, so it’s dumb to give him the second-most ABs.

by taliesin on Oct 12, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pablo!

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

OH MY GOD

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=19885811&source=MLB&topic_id=23395338

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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by scout6 on Oct 12, 2011 2:30 PM PDT reply actions  

A MILLION MILES AWAY

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHAT A SERIES HE'S HAVING

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by jhiat00 on Oct 12, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was part of their, “Rainy day video fund.”

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Oct 12, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

This makes everything else acceptable.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Oct 12, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, at least they have a sense of humor about themselves!

Or, they had better have a sense of humor. If this isn’t intended to be humorous, it’s the most ridiculous bullshit ever created.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has the game been cancelled yet?

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 2:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Groundskeepers are out to pull the tarp.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 12, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

6:30 ET, they say.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a Tarp [removal]!

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by son of ggf on Oct 12, 2011 2:56 PM PDT reply actions  

On the main Yahoo MLB page

They have a link to an article about Red Sox pitcher Jose Beckett!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 2:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Weather looks dicey in St. Louis too!

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 12, 2011 2:59 PM PDT reply actions  

I predicted that. High possibility of scattered Berkman today.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those poor, poor people.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 12, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

what is the deal with Eric Karros' hair?

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by son of ggf on Oct 12, 2011 3:03 PM PDT reply actions  

It is a bird.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 12, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lars is a Chigloo

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by son of ggf on Oct 12, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lars is Larry Bird

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

My interview with the asteroid guy went very well today. And he alerted me that a co-investigator on MSL works here. I’m going to feature her in a separate two-way in November.

I’m here to kick ass and drink sweet tea, and dammit, I’m all out of sweet tea.

by TheLetter2 on Oct 12, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

AJ SIGHTING

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Oct 12, 2011 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Shift-A: Working

new thread: http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2011/10/12/2486510/open-alcs-gamethread-10-12

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