2011 Power Rankings (1 of 3)
With 2011 now upon us, "the 2011 season" is no longer next year. Duh. I hate writing introductions.
More importantly, with the exception of a few players, most free agents are off the board, the biggest trade targets have switched homes (for now), and for the most part, teams will be the same in a few months. Since I managed to take forever evaluating teams in my head to prove to Roger why he's so unbelievably dumb, I figured I'd get a little more mileage out of those thoughts (gotta squeeze every drop) with a Power Rankings post, and inadvertently agree with him.
1. Red Sox - Additions of Adrian Gonzalez and Carl Crawford give them one of the best offensive and defensive teams, probably the best at least offensively. Their starting pitching wasn't great in 2010, but they have five good starters in Jon Lester, Josh Beckett, Clay Buchholz, John Lackey, and Daisuke Matsuzaka, each with upside. The addition of Bobby Jenks puts three closers (Bard, Papelbon, Jenks) in a good bullpen. All-around excellent squad, probably one of the best in years.
2. Phillies - If they weren't going to get #1, they have to be #2. Offense is aging (just like the rest of the team) and has a bad injury history, but they won't need to live up to their history with that starting staff. If they do, they'll be fighting the Sox for the top spot. Bullpen is a little shaky, with Madson they only really solid option, but if Lidge is good that'll be enough.
3. Giants - WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS BABY! Actually, this was a tough call. A little bit of homerism gets the Giants up here, but the fact that they had the second-best pitching staff and ninth-best offense+defense in baseball by fWAR last year makes them one of the best all-around teams. Jonathan Sanchez, Aubrey Huff, Pat Burrell, and Andres Torres probably won't be as good next year, and Juan Uribe has been exchanged for Miguel Tejada, but better seasons from Tim Lincecum and Pablo Sandoval and full seasons of Buster Posey, Madison Bumgarner, Cody Ross, Burrell, and Torres plus a deeper bench with Aaron Rowand and Mark DeRosa should at least equalize that. With a little luck, they could be a 95-win team.
4. Rays - This is probably high for most people, but I think the Rays are going to be just as good next year. They lost Crawford and Pena, and now have to compete with the powerhouse Red Sox, who are not only better but will probably not suffer as many injuries. But Desmond Jennings and Dan Johnson are capable, if not equal, replacements. A full season of John Jaso behind the plate will help, and Andrew Friedman has already acquired some nice bullpen pieces in Cesar Ramos, Adam Russell, and Joel Peralta. And with that rotation's true talent level far above last year's performance, plus the addition of Hellickson, their pitching should be better overall, likely balancing out the offensive loss. If they manage to trade a starter for a bat, all the better. Still, it's not as though the Rays are the fourth-best team in baseball so much as the no other team is.
5. Braves - A young team on the rise yet again. Will these bastards ever stop? Have some goddamned sustained failure, you pricks, and stop it with the endless supply of talented young players. Hanson in 2009, Heyward last year, a fresh new bullpen corps for 2011 and probably Julio Teheran in 2012. The Braves have good-to-great starting pitching, an excellent bullpen, and at least a capable offense. And now they have Dan Uggla. And Heyward could get better. Goddammit.
6. Rangers - The defending AL champs are sixth, and that's probably pretty high. The loss of Cliff Lee really stings, and Vladimir Guerrero's departure hurts almost as badly. Without Lee, there is no ace, and Colby Lewis isn't exactly a rock-solid No. 3, much less a No. 2. Still, their offense is powerful, and Derek Holland is a solid fifth starter if Neftali Feliz isn't converted from the bullpen. Another team with few holes, and acting like they're going to fill a nonexistent one by adding Adrian Beltre.
7. Twins - I seriously don't get why the Twins are good. None of their pitchers are really anything special (except Francisco Liriano, who's rather unpredictable), except some bullpen guys who all left. They managed to win 94 games last year without Joe Nathan or Justin Morneau, though, so there's gotta be something there. Jim Thome was surprisingly helpful. Like the Rays, they have to rebuild their bullpen, but Nathan helps with that. The Twins are a very good all-around team with a few superstars, and I can't wrap my head around the fact that Delmon Young was a two-win player last year.
8. Brewers - The Brewers a top 10 team? Wow. But that's what happens when you add Zack Greinke and Shaun Marcum to Yovani Gallardo on one of the best offensive teams in the majors. Of course, Rickie Weeks and Corey Hart probably aren't worth 10 wins by themselves, but the Brewers could win 90 or so games and take the NL Central. If they could get some decent relief pitching they'd probably be in the top five.
9. Reds - They lost Aaron Harang, who was sadly one of their better pitchers last year, and Arthur Rhodes, who was their best bullpen piece. They've still got one of the best young offenses in the game, and Edinson Volquez and Johnny Cueto have serious upside, plus Bronson Arroyo isn't half bad, and if Aroldis Chapman is with the team, he and Francisco Cordero form a solid back end of the bullpen. If Chapman is starting, the Reds move ahead of the Brewers.
10. Yankees - Ouch. $200 million gets you the last spot in the top 10? The Yankees were the best offensive team in the majors last year, but when that offense is as old as it is and it's supplemented by exactly two reliably good pitchers in CC Sabathia and Mariano Rivera, you just can't count on them. If Andy Pettitte comes back, Phil Hughes manages to stay effective for a season, Joba Chamberlain shows some of that hype, A-Rod, Jeter, and Teixeira return to form somewhat and stay healthy, Cano continues hitting, and their bullpen manages to not blow it, they'll prove serious competition for the Rays. Otherwise, they'll hit a lot, but it won't matter, since they'll end up in third place anyway.
So ends the top 10. Your top ten teams, if you please.
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I seriously don’t get why the Twins are good.
They may not have more than one rotation standout, but their pitching staff is very deep.
Their lineup is also deep, but they have many many standouts there. They score a ton of runs.
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When I look at them, I realize that
They’ve got eight position players above 2 WAR, and four pitchers. I just keep thinking of them as one of those teams that relies on a couple really good players because most of those good-not-great guys fly under the radar. Too bad Orlando Hudson left; he was the perfect player for that team.
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They just shouldn't have traded Hardy
And played Nishioka at 2B.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Carl Crawford is a perennial 5+ win player while Desmond Jennings struggled in AAA last year. What makes him a suitable replacement? I think losing Crawford should hurt the Rays quite a bit. I’d maybe drop them a couple spots. But otherwise good list.
I meant that Jennings is a capable replacement and NOT an equal replacement, not that he’s a capable replacement who could be an equal replacement. That wording is somewhat ambiguous and it always bugs me.
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Oh, wasn’t saying you called him an equal replacement; my point was more that it looks to me like Jennings might need a bit more seasoning in the minors. Maybe his defense could give him a good deal of value, but it doesn’t seem like his bat is ready yet.
I think it’s going to be interesting to see how the Rays score runs. I know they have great pitching depth, but that really looks like a thin offense to me, especially for the AL East. Easily the worst offense in that division. And it remains to be seen how the reconfigured bullpen works, because they’re going to have to pitch their butts off to get back to the playoffs.
Seriously looking over the Rays and Yankees rosters makes me wonder if the Blue Jays don’t have a legitimate shot at a Wild Card runt his year.
I do agree that the Red Sox have to be #1 right now, but it really strikes me that that rotation could go kaflooey in a hurry. Seems inevitable that we’re going see Wakefield starting games again at some point and that just can’t be a good sign.
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I am kind of amazed by the Blue Jays to continuously restock their pitching depth.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Jan 4, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
The Brewers have improved themselves significantly, and the Reds haven’t gotten worse and may be better with Chapman joining the rotation. Meanwhile, the Yankees have done nothing except lose Kerry Wood, Lance Berkman, and Andy Pettitte. Right now, AJ Burnett’s 5.00 ERA is their No. 2 starter. Meanwhile, the offense is a year older and wasn’t exactly a spring chicken last year.
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Good list
I might be tempted to replace the Yankees with the Rockies at #10, but you’ve made a cogent analysis.
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—Rogers Hornsby
Good job. I probably put a little more weight in previous performance than you
And certainly look at off-season moves, but barring an Adrian Gonzalez-like departure, I’m a little more “proove it”. As The Mets seem to keep proving, big off-season moves don’t always work out as well as they do on paper.
It’s a tough call between the Red Sox and Phillies, but in this era of the pitcher, I gave the nod to Philadelphia and their staff.
I think ranking the Giants #3 is very fair, especially as I stated above, that I put weight on what the team has done and pitching is so critical. I love the fact that the Giants have a great rotation AND bullpen. The Phillies may have a better rotation, but anyone who thinks a bullpen isn’t important wasn’t watching what the Padres did last year despite one legitmate hitter and a young rotation.
I’m curious to see how close the Rox and Cards were to your top 10.
Last thought: I love that there are no other NL West Teams in the top 10
The thong is, it happened.
On paper, the Red Sox are the best team but the Giants are the defending World Series Champions so, until proven otherwise, they are the best team in baseball.
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by j14 on Jan 4, 2011 10:10 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Totally
Braves – A young team on the rise yet again. Will these bastards ever stop? Have some goddamned sustained failure, you pricks
I miss the days when the Braves were a perennial laughing stock.
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jan 4, 2011 10:32 AM PST reply actions
I'd rank the Braves higher.
I’m still surprised we beat them. Like more surprised we beat them than us beating PHI or TEX, I didn’t think we could score on Hudson or Lowe, especially in ATL.
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comes to mind when I see “Braves” and “laughing stock” in close proximity.
According to Eric Holder, Giants Baseball is NOT torture. OK, it is, but followed by a big bowl of ice cream.
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They had a losing record in 2006 and 2008, and they weren’t that good before 1991. I presume that’s what he’s talking about, because two losing seasons in two decades is “sustained failure” I’d kill for.
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Before Schuerholz came over they were pretty bad
And then he entered the picture and they got good
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I suspect he’s talking about the 70s and 80s. Like the days when Ted Turner tried to take over as Field Manager and got slapped back into the owner’s suite by the commissioner — that was pretty funny.
Of course, it was much less funny when they told Ken Henderson they’d outpay the Giants for his services while he was still playing for us. He totally sucked for them, which was its own kind of payback.
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In 1987/88 or so
Will Clark said in an interview that he’d seen some of the Braves pitchers setting up archery targets in a breezeway under the seats at Candlestick. He said, in essence, he never wanted to be that much of a loser, to be on a team where the players were more interested in shooting arrows. That’s the time period he’s referring to, and before, I’d bet. I still think of them the way I thought of them as a kid, which is as a bunch of losers. The last twenty years are the exception.
Back in the 70's
You could be pretty sure the good promotion days at Candlestick were for Braves, Astros, or Padres games. I saw too many of those guys.
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I voted Red Sox – they just look stacked offensively and defensively with decent pitching. I don’t think it’s terribly close. As much as I dislike their pocketbooks, I have to admire what Epstein does in Boston.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jan 4, 2011 1:10 PM PST reply actions
Epstein got lucky (twice)
Seriously, Theo does a fine job, as does Sabean. The GM’s job is to win, thus increasing the value of the franchise. The payroll is just one constraint a GM has to consider. The larger payroll teams have fans with higher expectations as well.
The high-payroll teams’ GMs have tougher jobs than the low-payroll teams’.
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Yankees 10th?
Have you seen their lineup?
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Have you seen their rotation?
Especially with it looking more likely that Petitte is going to retire
The thong is, it happened.
They were talking about it on MLB network last night
Something like he told the Yankees “I’m really leaning toward retiring, so don’t plan around me.”
The thong is, it happened.
Yeah, I know, I just have trouble believing it and I think I will continue to have trouble believing it even if never shows up for ST — I’ll still be expecting him to pull a Clemens and announce he’s coming back from the owner’s box sometime around the All Star game.
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Great list and summaries. My eagerness for late March only increases.
Cnsidering how the AL has dominated the NL most years (but not 2010 ha!), Should there be at least 6 AL in a top 10
-like Angels over Reds?—the Reds are not solid at all. Angels have a grey haired outfield, slow too.
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Rays too high, Yankees too low.
Also, World Series, baby.
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Agreed.
According to Eric Holder, Giants Baseball is NOT torture. OK, it is, but followed by a big bowl of ice cream.
Tim Lincecum: He's a biracial angel.
Ok, now I’m going to drop the Rays even further. I don’t like the Garza trade at all from their perspective. In fact, it’s pretty hard to interpret it as anything other than giving up on being competitive in 2011.
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They absolutely don’t need Garza, they have a better pitcher in Hellickson. Plus they’ve acquired a better catcher in Chirinos, and a couple good fourth OFs (maybe more) in Fuld and Guyer. They probably aren’t going to be doing much next year, but they didn’t need Garza whatsoever and now they have more depth. The Rays absolutely got better for 2011; their ML roster will be about as good, and their Triple-A roster got a lot better.
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You can make he case that Hellickson will be a better than league average pitcher in his rookie year, and you may be right about that. But are you going to argue that having 40% of your starts taken up by James Shields and Jeff Niemann is a good thing? Or that Wade Davis will necessarily improve. I doubt any of the players they acquired will play for them this year, and I think there’s a good chance none of them are ever productive major league players.
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There's also a good chance Garza isn't either
Injury and ineffectiveness are not out of the question for all pitchers, and Garza doesn’t strike guys out and doesn’t get ground balls. He’s not that good (by WAR, he was worse than Shields and 0.6 wins better than Niemann last year, and in ’09 he was again worse than Shields and 0.2 wins better than Niemann).
Niemann and Shields aren’t that bad. Both posted career high ERAs last year, though for Niemann that was basically one previous season, but both got unlucky. Shields had a .354 BABIP and 68.4% LOB rate plus a 13.8% HR/FB rate (highest in the majors); Niemann had a 12.2% HR/FB rate (7th in the majors), though his BABIP fell to .271. Still, the only significant difference in K/9 or BB/9 for either was Shields going from 6.8 K/9 to 8.3 K/9. Niemann posted a 4.00 ERA last year en route to being a three win pitcher. Shields has been at least a four win pitcher for the three full seasons of his career until last year, and last year he was a two win pitcher. They’re both good arms.
Davis is getting better already. Look at his splits; he starts the season with two months in the 1.00-2.00 K/BB range, and ends it with four months at or above 2.00, finishing with a Sept/Oct at 2.55, his highest all season (including his highest K rate and his only FIP below 4.00, and much more in line with his minor league numbers).
Hellickson’s already posted a 4 K/BB in 36 innings at the ML level and has an excellent minor league track record. I have no problem predicting he’ll be better than Garza.
So yes, I think that having Shields and Niemann as your 4/5 guys is a good thing. Let’s also consider that they pitched against the Jays, Yankees, and Red Sox, owners of the 1st, 2nd, and 6th best ML offenses by wOBA. I think that Davis, Shields, and Niemann will all be better next year, and I think that Hellickson will be an improvement on Garza.
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Cogent analysis
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Doh!
I failed the poll! It asked what is CURRENTLY the best team in baseball. That would be the Giants, World Champs of course. But best roster for next year? Red Sox for sure.
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by tinkerstoeverstochance on Jan 10, 2011 11:54 PM PST reply actions
Personally think the Brewers and Yankees should move up some...
And the Rays and Giants should move down some.
I personally think the A’s or Rockies are good enough to be on the list.
And I’m not too big on the Reds being on the list.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Jan 11, 2011 9:37 PM PST reply actions
I expressed my reservations about the A’s in part two. I think they’re a decent team, but not nearly as good as they were last year. They’ve improved, but just enough to cover the problems they had last year.
The Reds have an excellent young offense. Their pitching is okay right now, but has considerable upside. A #9 ranking could look pretty silly in a few months if Volquez and Cueto show what they can do and Chapman is able to make the transition to the rotation.
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Chapman is starting the year in the bullpen
They’re already going to put somebody like Leake in AAA. I’m not sure what scenario would lead to Chapman starting. He wasn’t all that great in the minors when he started either.
The Reds getting smart would lead to Chapman starting
Chapman has the potential to be a shutdown pitcher; put him in the rotation, he’s a potentially a seven win guy. Put him in the bullpen, he’ll struggle to crack three wins.
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I don't know about 'excellent' describing their offense.
Scott Rolen was their 2nd best hitter in 2010… And he’s just likely not going to repeat a season like that.
Another of their more productive hitters was Ramon Hernandez… Even though he’s been an underrated hitting catcher, I don’t think a 114 OPS+ is sustainable for him.
Drew Stubbs might be the real deal… But his power is a question mark, if only because he never really had any before.
Jay Bruce has had a frustrating career, but certainly can be counted on to be a good hitter.
Same with Votto… Although a regression seems likely for him.
Phillips and Gomes are just okay bats. They seem to get a little too much credit because of their ‘casual fan stat-lines’: BA/HR/RBI.. But their OBP’s and SLG%‘s aren’t that special.
I think they scored as many runs as they did because they’re core offensive producers stayed really healthy to go along with Votto and Rolen having very good years… Something which I personally wouldn’t count on repeating.
As for their pitching… I don’t think Wood is as good as he was. And Volquez just seems like a pretty big question mark.
They have some upside with Leake and Volquez… But their most recent season performances aren’t that special. In part because it was Leake’s rookie season without minor league experience, and in part because Volquez was coming back from an injury. But who knows if there’s lasting effects to this stuff.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Jan 12, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
The Reds led baseball in offensive+defensive WAR. They were third in wOBA, the best team in the NL. Most of their key players are under 30. They have an excellent offense. I see Phillips getting better, Rolen, Votto, Stubbs, and Hernandez dropping off a little bit, Bruce at least staying the same, and Janish getting better with increased PT despite the Renteria signing. Their offense probably will take a small hit next year, but they should still be pretty damned good.
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