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September baseball and the looming riots

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From a post close to the trading deadline:

Star-divide

This is the year to go nuts. The Giants can’t count on free agent hitters agreeing to come to San Francisco. They can’t count on Thomas Neal to anchor the middle of the lineup while Matt Cain, Tim Lincecum, and Jonathan Sanchez are under contract and pitching well. This is the year that Aubrey Huff is hitting like Eddie Murray. This is the year that Andres Torres is hitting like Kenny Lofton. This is the year with four starters pitching better than most team’s #1. The stars haven’t aligned, exactly, but they aren’t getting any alignier.

Huff isn’t hitting like Eddie Murray right now. Torres isn’t hitting like Kenny Lofton (with more power, I should have added) right now. And those four starters, well, for most of August they were pitching like a collection of #5 starters from the bowels of PCL rotations.

The overall thesis still stands, though. The Giants have had a lot of good fortune this year. They aren’t one game back if Huff hasn’t matched his career-best numbers, or if Andres Torres is just the fifth-outfielder we thought he would be. They aren’t one game back if the pitching staff doesn’t stay mostly healthy – though a couple of DL stints in August might have actually helped. They aren’t one game back if they don’t make a radical, post-deadline deal for Jose Guillen.

Well, maybe that last one is a stretch. They might be six-games ahead if my math is right, and by "math" I mean "half-hearted guess based purely on how much distaste I have for the trade."

My point is that this is likely to be the very best chance for a while to make the playoffs, and as a graduate of Jeff Weaver University – school mascot: the Fightin’ Stringy-Haired Weasels – I think any team has a shot to win 11 out of 19 potential games once they do make the playoffs. Therefore, I am going to freak out about every single game from here until the end of the season. This success might be fleeting.

Please don’t confuse this with "The Giants aren’t going to contend for the next decade." Things happen. Maybe the pitching staff will stay healthy and effective. Maybe Huff and Torres will be just as awesome, and they’ll remain Giants. It’s possible that the current paradigm will lead to more success in the future.

And if the surprising, fortuitous things that I’ve listed don’t come to pass, maybe four more surprising and fortuitous things come up and slap us in the face. When I wrote this lamentation after just the second game in 2008, Tim Lincecum was just a prospect, an unknown quantity. Pablo Sandoval was a chubby kid coming off a mediocre season in the Cal League. Buster Posey was in college. Madison Bumgarner was less than a year out of high school. All sorts of valuable players in 2010, from Andres Torres to Juan Uribe to Santiago Casilla, were traipsing around the dustbin of the majors in 2008. Things happen to turn a bad team into a contender, and they happen quickly.

But these things don’t always happen. They have for the 2010 Giants, and to a lesser extent the 2009 Giants, but they don’t always. You can’t assume that Jonathan Sanchez and Madison Bumgarner are just going to keep improving, just as you can’t assume that the Giants will have a hitter as good as Huff next year, even if they re-sign the genuine article. This is a good team now. It might be the most likable, charismatic team I’ve ever followed in any sport, but it’s also one of the better Giants teams of the past decade.

If they come up short, it will be devastating. There will be freakouts. I’ll probably be guilty of a few.

If they actually make the playoffs, those same freakouts will happen. I’ll still be guilty of a few. The only difference is that they’ll just be a little more embarrassing to read in retrospect.

It’s indigestion inside. Also, fear masked as anger. Just thought I’d give you fair warning.

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If the Giants lead the NL West after this weekend

they should seriously consider limiting MadBum’s innings. Give Pucetas or Sosa a couple of starts and put MadBum in the ‘pen. I’m worried his arm will literally fall off.

by TBRMKane on Sep 7, 2010 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Let’s start a Riot!

"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff

by 49er16 on Sep 7, 2010 1:25 PM PDT reply actions  

The Dodgers sure are

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by jctGamer on Sep 7, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’re gonna start a riot, a riot, a riot!

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by troymccluresf on Sep 7, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want a riot of my own

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is what I thought of too.

LOL OLD GUYS

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Sep 7, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

high five

and get these damn kids off my lawn

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits

by FriscoJoe on Sep 7, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I Predict a Riot

Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson

by Gobroks on Sep 7, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is so much fun to be legitimately excited about a pennant race again!

Last year was a mirage and we all knew it, but this team is different. Face it, the lineups (sans Guillen) are not embarassing; they are even borderline good. And the fact that they are very much in this thing with the recent string of mediocre starting pitching portends great things for this Fall. I, for one, am extremely excited!

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Yep

Meaningful September baseball is all you can ask for as a baseball fan and we are lucky enough to have it this year. I’m nervous, excited, terrified and all the things that Pirates fans can only dream of at this point of the season. I’ll be the one living and dying with every game in section 328 the rest of the way.

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by j14 on Sep 7, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

So

Basically college football season?

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by jctGamer on Sep 7, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty much. I’m setting the over/under on heart attacks the rest of the way at 3.5

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by j14 on Sep 7, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

i can help with that…

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's also important to note the other side though

Maybe in a different year, Sandoval his better and plays better defensively. Maybe in a different year our pitchers don’t get BABIP’d to death (though I’m sure the wild kingdoms defense has something to do with it).

BTBS couldn’t quite figure out how the Giants got 80+ run differential last year based on our individual stats. They attributed it to “random fluctuations on offense and better than expected defense”. But now that we are performing (as a team) better than expected two years in a row, I have to think that the sabr formula is missing something. We are now beyond small sample size territory, and perhaps this team is, indeed, better than we give them credit for.

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by jctGamer on Sep 7, 2010 1:36 PM PDT reply actions  

I feel like BTBS tries to account for too much, and most of the teams are really bunched together making teams look worse than they really are.

Most other standings based on W3% have the Giants as a better team than BTBS tries to tell us.

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pablo's defense

Is it really that horrible? Most stats point to him being fairly average (middle of the pack in the fielding percentage, a bit low in UZR), and I’ve never really felt he’s a huge liability at the position. Sure his range leaves a lot to be desired, but he doesn’t boot the ball too often and has a damn good arm to first. I kinda feel like just because he’s a fatty people rag on his defense a lot more than if he was in better shape and getting the same results.

Besides, who else are they gonna play there, Uribe? Not exactly a big defensive upgrade…

by apistat on Sep 7, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most feel he was actually quite quick on his feet, but this year, if he can’t fall at the ball, he’s not gonna reach it.

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by troymccluresf on Sep 7, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

But . . .

. . . “average” is “average”. For a guy who hits as well as it is reasonable to reckon he will in 2011 and on (which is to say as well as he hits except for the stormy period in his life from somewhere in late spring through 28 July of this year), it’s satisfactory—one might even say quite satisfactory.

Sabean delenda est!

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by owlcroft on Sep 7, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

What "something" do you suggest?

The Giants’ pitching and defense has allowed in 58 runs fewer than would normally be expected from their actual stat line, and that number has been pretty steady—from 60 to 55—for weeks or, as best I recall, months. All one has to do, if formulae do not loom large in one’s life, is look at or remember (the stat is now ridiculously hard to find) the LOB totals for the Giants’ opponents: they are comical. The stat formulae are just as “accurate” as the formula that says heads=0.5 x tosses for a tossed coin; just because one can occasionally get 93 heads from 162 tosses does not mean that the formula “is missing something”.

The stat lines the Giants have accumulated this year, offense and defense, are those of a .500 team. But, as the old saying runs, “It’s better to be lucky than good.”

(Mind, there is some discrepancy because the Giants’ offense from July 1st on—once the plug of lard was removed from the drain—has flowed a lot better than before. But still . . . .)

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by owlcroft on Sep 7, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bring on the Yankees. If we win it all let’s chip in and buy Aubrey a real first name.

by GiantMalcontent on Sep 7, 2010 1:38 PM PDT reply actions  

it might take a little bit more

to buy a new name for his father and grandfather too.

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Nate woulda had that.

by MonochromeGarden on Sep 7, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

rec'd

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

grougthink in action!

I’ll bet they end up trading a low level prospect for a marginal bullpen upgrade.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Jun 23, 2010 11:24 AM PDT reply actions

Turpen for Ramirez what what

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by groug on Sep 7, 2010 1:40 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't know WAR at all...

But it can’t be possible for Guillen’s to not be negative, can it?

by Artimus Clyde on Sep 7, 2010 1:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Good old positional adjustment

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=57&position=OF

Positive 0.4.

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by jctGamer on Sep 7, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

still better than Pedro Feliz

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

we suck

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by j14 on Sep 7, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ouch

Talk about damning with faint praise.

by marcello on Sep 7, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats what I was looking for!

I am still almost in shock that its not lower. I didn’t think I would hate him this much

by Artimus Clyde on Sep 7, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude can hit

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by jponry on Sep 7, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Proven veteran

The 1st pitch is the best

by Tay on Sep 7, 2010 2:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Professional Hitter

Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie

by jhiat00 on Sep 7, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

as Designated

"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti

by drdata24 on Sep 7, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

This a good team now.

You good writer. Write lots of words.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 1:46 PM PDT reply actions  

..

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by jctGamer on Sep 7, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Grant is like a ninja

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by jctGamer on Sep 7, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not joining the circle jerk until we tie the Padres. And with Latos pitching today, I’m not even getting the Jergens out.

The Magic is inside all of us.
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by ResDog on Sep 7, 2010 1:47 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Baby wipes.

Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie

by jhiat00 on Sep 7, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s sigworthy.

Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.

by oldjacket on Sep 7, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

KERMIT?

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not even getting the Jergens out.

You know, the first time I read this, I was like “wait, who’s playing against Atlanta???”

by kudo on Sep 7, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Before I read this, I’d never heard of a circle jerk. I have a pretty good idea of what it is, but no way I’m googling to confirm.

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know exactly what it is.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well sometimes these names head one way but turn out as something much different than I thought. So I think I know what the general concept is but I’m unclear on the details.

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dont finish last

I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz

by CB30 on Sep 7, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

See, I wouldn’t know this if you didn’t just post it

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

The more you know!

I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz

by CB30 on Sep 7, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

In this instance I think I’m comfortable with the level of knowledge I have right now. I really don’t need more info.

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

A bunch of guys sit in a circle and jerk each other off.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

what if one is left handed?

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

wait

i don’t get it

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

/sigh

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

No doubt. I wasn’t actually fishing for more info. Apparently Howie wanted to make it crystan clear.

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shouldn’t this go in the overflow post-game baseball thread?

by Natto on Sep 7, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gives new meaning to “overflow.” Sorry.

by Bochean on Sep 7, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay. Sorry for apologizing.

by Bochean on Sep 7, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

HE SAID NOT TO DO THAT

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s sorry for not learning.

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by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorr—-er wait. I get it now.

by Bochean on Sep 7, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

“We’re going to need more tablespoons!”

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sit?

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess that’s not required. Seems easier, though.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depends on height and arm length and another length I suppose.

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

You guys are doing a good job of pretending you’ve never done this.

by Bochean on Sep 7, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Done what?

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

What’s that?

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

From what I’ve heard it’s when a group of guys get together and masturbate one another (sitting or standing is up to the group). One guy should bring towels and sometimes people wear masks. Music is optional as well.

This is just what I’ve heard of course.

by Bochean on Sep 7, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

You seem to know a lot about it.

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Know a lot about what?

by Bochean on Sep 7, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apologizing for the circle jerks.

Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Circle jerks are going in circles.

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry about that.

by Bochean on Sep 7, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think there is an organization devoted to this art

It is called the Jacks. The description on Google says a lot:

The Jacks is a fellowship of men who like to jack-off in the company of like-minded men. Neither a business nor a religion, the Jacks is a public service …

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whew – I’m glad they clarified it wasn’t a religion. Because that would be the obvious implication.

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU

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by can of corn on Sep 7, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

No denying a cult following.

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

/covers eyes

there are some things I never want to know about.

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by GiantsBabe on Sep 7, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then don’t look above.

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

What?

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was jerking yourself off?

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 7, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

That does seem easier.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats what I thought too

I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz

by CB30 on Sep 7, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

you don't

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by OneLoveSF on Sep 7, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Getting?

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

spunk toast

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Sep 7, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Leave it that way….

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is exactly why I didn’t google it

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Googling “Circle Jerk” is the modern day equivalent of resigning

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I’m in Law School. So the most they can do is look at me disapprovingly. I’m the one paying them.

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

So true- Just don’t plan on being picked for Law Review or whatever you guys call it…

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a 3L so they’re already stuck with me.

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

daisy chain?

round pound?

yeah, it’s probably what you think it is.

but seriously, you never heard of The Circle Jerks??

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, I haven’t thought of that band in a long time.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

YOU KIDS STAY OFF MY AGING PUNK ROCKER LAWN!!

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Sep 7, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not much of a punk fan. I like some of what I’ve heard, but I don’t seek it out. Apparently no one has introduced me to them cause I’ve never heard of them.

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"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars

by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

makes sense

but they were in the pantheon of US hardcore gods, with Black Flag, Minor Threat, Bad Brains, Misfits, and a few others.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM

by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I’ve heard 3 out of the 4 you just mentioned. Does that count for anything?

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

sure!

you get a banana sticker.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM

by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here’s a sticker that if you scratch it, it smells just like a pickle.

Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

A Skankin’ Pickle?

by kaliber on Sep 8, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate bananas. Do you have an other fruit-related stickers I could choose from instead?

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"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars

by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Peel slowly and see.

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Sep 7, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I use to quietly judge people who walked around wearing Misfits shirts, even though I really like the Misfits myself.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think i get this

the Misfits were an absolutely fantastic band — one of the all-time best. However, the people who wear their shirts in this day and age are generally not the type of people I’d want to kick it with.

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

In high school, my band once opened for the Circle Jerks…

Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

where at, Andy?

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"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM

by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

On Broadway… I have the flyer buried somewhere I think.

Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

epic

they were pretty great there for a minute, before they turned into … whatever it was they turned into.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM

by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

All I remember is Keith being so high energy I thought he was going to burst… Beverly Hills was one of my faves.

Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

dude legitimately lost his mind later. he seems completely burnt now.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM

by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

The freakouts will happen to us all

 If we can’t find a way to start beating the Padres. I refuse to think postseason until we can hand them some losses. Don’t mean to diminish what the Giants have been doing right now but they will miss the postseason if we can’t beat them and take control of first place. I know the wildcard is still a possibility but I don’t think the Phils or Braves will fall off and I think one of them will take it.

There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.

by Giant_in_la_area on Sep 7, 2010 1:50 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

We win with or without Glenallen Guillen.

by GiantMalcontent on Sep 7, 2010 1:50 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL
Brad Hennessey’s 85-mph mediumball

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by jhiat00 on Sep 7, 2010 1:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Also this:
The organization spent an entire offseason hyperventilating about speed and defense, but the game was lost because Bengie Molina couldn’t score from second on a single (he was running on the play, don’t forget)…

Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie

by jhiat00 on Sep 7, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we can take both remaining series against the Padres this year, that would help me freak out about this team.

For now, I’m still pleasantly surprised the team has competed to this point.

by nataku on Sep 7, 2010 1:54 PM PDT reply actions  

taking both series meaning going 5-2 against them. That’s a tall order. Hell, at this point I’ll settle for not shitting the bed, ie, 3-4.

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by jctGamer on Sep 7, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, 3-4

I feel if the Giants take advantage of playing 11 more games against the D-Backs, Brewers and Cubs they just need to avoid a sweep to San Diego.

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh. 4-3 is probably realistic . . .

. . . and would be decidedly nicer. The days dwindle down, and making up games without a big streak on someone’s part is harder than it sounds.

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by owlcroft on Sep 7, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh i'll take 4-3

But I’ll accept 3-4

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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Sep 7, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

youneverknow

this team can be awful or awe inspiring, but they keep hanging in there and battling, which makes me believe they’ll make the playoffs. I’d prefer they run away with it, but I’d settle for winning in game 162. They seem primed to do it, especially if Huff and Torres snap out of their funks, which they probably will shortly. It’s a good thing that’s happened while they’re winning.

if this team ever put it all together at the same time (like July, except against good teams), they’d go deep into the playoffs.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 7, 2010 1:57 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm sure it was mentioned in another thread but why the hell is Baggs re-tweeting 22gigantes??

Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie

by jhiat00 on Sep 7, 2010 2:00 PM PDT reply actions  

WTF

Seriously, how did I miss this? Do you have a link? Not that I would visit if it meant going to his site, but want to see what it’s about.

"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!

by Giant Torture on Sep 7, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know how to link to a tweet but it was sent at about 12PM yesterday.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 7, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah thanks! Link

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by jhiat00 on Sep 7, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

That works on most sites, including this one. The time & date is a permalink to that comment/tweet.whatever.

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by troymccluresf on Sep 7, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

22gigantes @extrabaggs They prolly Wanna Be Startin’ Something, but can’t even hit anything Off The Wall…
11:58 AM Sep 6th via Power Twitter in reply to extrabaggs

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by jhiat00 on Sep 7, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

So Baggs didn’t RT 22gigantes. 22gigantes just replied to Baggs.

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by troymccluresf on Sep 7, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no clue how Twitter works, but I do know that 22Gigantes is an idiot.

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Giants Front Office....Torture!

by Giant Torture on Sep 7, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Hmmm…well it showed up on my Twitter feed. I subscribe to Baggs but not that deuce fellow.

Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie

by jhiat00 on Sep 7, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe someone else you follow reposted it. You can check if you go to http://twitter.com/#retweets_by_others

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by troymccluresf on Sep 7, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, says it was retweeted by extrabaggs.

Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie

by jhiat00 on Sep 7, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe Baggs doesn’t know who that is.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 7, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

someone should learn him

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Learn him real good.

Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie

by jhiat00 on Sep 7, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

someone set him up the bomb

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by jctGamer on Sep 7, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

JRPhillips won that thread:
I’m going to be honest… I have absolutely zero expectation that the Giants do anything at all more than acquire a bullpen arm that’s a total middling upgrade. I also expect nothing more than an acquisition of 30-year-old-or-older outfielder with middling pop and who may have batted over .300 once a few years ago to provide depth in the outfield, forcing Nate off the team.

Stand pat, I’d rather not trade Neal for a bullpen arm or Crawford for outfield depth.

Guillen hit .311 in 2003.

by Every6thDay on Sep 7, 2010 2:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Very accurate

Fortunately, Lopez has been great and I found out yesterday that Nate is, in fact, still on the team. Who knew?

The 1st pitch is the best

by Tay on Sep 7, 2010 2:33 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Guillen hit .311 in 2003.

I’m not sure what to do with that old info nugget.

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by nvsfg on Sep 7, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

We ended trading Crawford for Infield depth

Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson

by Gobroks on Sep 7, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pablo was?

Pablo Sandoval was a chubby kid coming off a mediocre season in the Cal League.
Was?…
♥ you Pablo!

by phillas on Sep 7, 2010 2:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Tonight be Latos intolerant, LA.

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by leftymalo on Sep 7, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d very much like it if the San Francisco Giants made the playoffs this season.

"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat

by deuce deuce on Sep 7, 2010 2:11 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m very interested to see how Timmy does tonight. Was the last start the return of The Enchanter? Or does he revert to his very mortal August self?

"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10

by Kitspool on Sep 7, 2010 2:13 PM PDT reply actions  

August was more like pitching machine sentience.

by Every6thDay on Sep 7, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Im not looking forward to him facing Laroche

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by CB30 on Sep 7, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

NEVER AGAIN

Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie

by jhiat00 on Sep 7, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Im scared

It was his start in Arizona earlier this year that was the beginning of his mortality. And he hasn’t seemed to put together back to back starts in forever now

by Artimus Clyde on Sep 7, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was OK last time in Arizona.

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting article about Lincecum . . .

. . . over at Baseball Prospectus (“Freaky Concerns”). Curiously, it is fully readable without a subscription.

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by owlcroft on Sep 7, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

that was a good read

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Sep 7, 2010 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

One game out baby!

after tonight TIED for first!
This is the most excited I’ve been about the Giants since 2002, the other years I was excited for Bonds yet still rooting for the Giants!

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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Sep 7, 2010 2:36 PM PDT reply actions  

You expect to much from the LOLGERS

There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.

by Giant_in_la_area on Sep 7, 2010 2:45 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not a fan of the 100-win aught-three squadron?

by Every6thDay on Sep 7, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

After thouroughly flogging those damnable Snakes

Timmy shall smite thee for for lack of faith.

Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.

by AXmrdrir on Sep 7, 2010 2:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow Hank. Wow.
hankschulman
  In a man, ain’t I?RT @Thief1183: @hankschulman You would like the Tilted Kilt

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by jctGamer on Sep 7, 2010 2:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Wat.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 7, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Print Runs and Western Suns

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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Sep 7, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 7, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was at the Tilted Kilt over the weekend in PHX.

It was awesome!

My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard

by NuschlerFace on Sep 7, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m afraid to feel. I’ll just stay numb until the regular season is over.

Quietly hoping Brandon Belt develops into John Olerud, circa 1993.

by AndOnTheDrums... on Sep 7, 2010 2:48 PM PDT reply actions  

i’m half in this camp … but i also can’t help getting excited! tee hee!

by bombs on Sep 7, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever happens this season, we’re all along for the ride, and I’m lovin’ it.

However, I don’t think that this is our last real shot- we can only get better. We still have an excellent starting staff back for next year, only next time around will have Madison and Buster for the whole year (think first half of 2010: Benge and Wellemeyer).

Imagine if for the first half of 2010 (.500 ball) we had what we have in this second half (.600 ball)- Posey, MadBum, Torres leading off, Freddy Sanchez, coupled with next year’s additions of possibly Belt and Neal, and I’m liking our chances in 2011 just as much as this season (or possibly more), so long as Buff, Burrell, and Uribe are resigned, and Ross is tendered.

But this one ain’t over yet, not even close. And I like our chances big-time if we can stick it to the Pads this weekend.

by giant4life83 on Sep 7, 2010 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

and Rowand gone

I hate the Dodgers, Patriots, Dolphins, and terroirsts

by GiantsfaninNY55 on Sep 7, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

and a sudden end to global warming…

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes but something magical happened to Buster between his MLB stints. He was hitting below .200 so they HAD to put him in the minors. Just ask Joe Morgan. He’ll tell you.

Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie

by jhiat00 on Sep 7, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think I want to talk to Joe Morgan

by giant4life83 on Sep 7, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah stick it to those maxi-pads

by bombs on Sep 7, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

fuck the Friars

The NL West belongs to the Giants.

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"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM

by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 2:53 PM PDT reply actions  

All of them?

I believe there are laws against that.

The Magic is inside all of us.
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by ResDog on Sep 7, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

all you need is special dispensation from Joey Bishop

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does

anyone remember when 2010 was supposed to be a rebuilding season?

It’s been a good ride.

by Norcalnappy on Sep 7, 2010 2:58 PM PDT reply actions  

I don’t know if I personally considered 2010 to be a rebuilding season. At the beginning of the year, I felt like the Giants would pseudo-contend like last year but fall short in the last two months. Of course, I never thought the Padres would be our main contender.

by Natto on Sep 7, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would have felt much better had I known the Padres would be our main contender. Dream scenario, really.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

The PECOTA standings were like completely opposite of what they are now.

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by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just had remembered the organization saying 2009/10 would be rebuilding seasons, probably because they didn’t know when Posey and Bumgardener would be ready.

by Norcalnappy on Sep 7, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha! That’s all my fingers right there, I didn’t even notice.

by Norcalnappy on Sep 7, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sadly, that actually does seem to be the way 60% of people pronounce it.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Spelling Bee MC: "And for the win: Bumgardener"

Little Boy from San Francisco: “Bumgardener. One who gardens Bums: L-O-L-D-O-D-G-E-R-S, Bumgardener”.

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Giants do not seem to understand the concept of rebuilding. They seem to think it means “sign aging vets with grit.”

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU

I tweet (more often than I blarg).

by can of corn on Sep 7, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

/Plays Randy Winn instead of seeing what Bowker/Nate can do

Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson

by Gobroks on Sep 7, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does anyone remember . . .

. . . that the 2010 Giants are having an awful lot of good luck? A successful 2011 will require some upgrading.

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by owlcroft on Sep 7, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lou Brown: Can I have your attention, please?
Lou Brown: I have something I think you all ought to know about.It seems that Mrs. Phelps doesn’t think too highly of our worth. She put this team together because she thought we’d be bad enough to finish dead last, knocking attendance down to the point where she could move the team to Miami… and get rid of all of us for better personnel.
Roger Dorn: Even me?
Lou Brown: Even you, Dorn.
Eddie Harris: What if we DON’T finish last?
Lou Brown: She’ll REPLACE you with somebody who WILL. After this season, you’ll be sent back to the minors or given your outright release.
Jake Taylor: [stands up] Well then I guess there’s only one thing left to do.
Roger Dorn: What’s that?
Jake Taylor: Win the whole fucking thing.
[long pause]
Willie Mays Hayes: [Willie stands up] Yeah.
Pedro Cerrano: [Pedro pounds his hand] YES!

Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie

by jhiat00 on Sep 7, 2010 3:04 PM PDT reply actions  

wow, somehow i guess i never really realized that Major League is a straight-up ripoff of Slapshot.

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hanrahan, your wife eats pussy!

My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard

by NuschlerFace on Sep 7, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

SHE’S A DYKE!

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM

by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Pedro Cerrano was so inspired by this team meeting, he later became a one-term POTUS and was later assassinated while writing his memoirs.

The future is surely bright for Jose Guillen.

"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti

by drdata24 on Sep 7, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

he also slangs insurance

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Sep 7, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes! He was one of the "good hands" people.

/Guillen envious

"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti

by drdata24 on Sep 7, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why there were empty seats last Saturday at Dodger Stadium

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdE67Iu9koY

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by jctGamer on Sep 7, 2010 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

That only accounts for like ten of them.

Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pablo off: Torres CF, Sanchez 2B, Huff 1B, Posey C, Burrell LF, Guillen RF, Uribe 3B, Renteria SS, Lincecum P

by TBRMKane on Sep 7, 2010 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL CODY

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Sep 7, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is no LOLing matter!

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Sep 7, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

UGH

why is Guillen

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just pray for a good amount of early runs and then defensive replacement

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by Giant Voodoo on Sep 7, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we can get a pinch runner for him

the second time through the lineup in the first inning, that would be good.

by paboperfecto on Sep 7, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

What about his back? Is it acting up?

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has this weird mole. Or is it a birthmark? I never have the courage to ask him.

by Natto on Sep 7, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

What does it taste like?

Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has anyone else noticed . . .

. . . how much Guillen looks like a dark-skinned Matthew Waterhouse?

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by owlcroft on Sep 7, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh goody

Guillen patrolling RF in Arizona. This should be “fun”.

by paboperfecto on Sep 7, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, fuck

I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz

by CB30 on Sep 7, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh good. Guillen’s there.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 7, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey Guillen

You know what, fuck it, it gets old. Just go play in traffic or something.

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know, I usually don't wish injury upon any player

but Guillen can fucking trip and eat some dog shit in foul territory.

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by jctGamer on Sep 7, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m still confused as to what Guillen has done to warrant such personal hatred.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

But that’s not personal.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you have no personal feelings related to your club?

by Norcalnappy on Sep 7, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t wish for them to be hurt or to have feces in their mouth.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those are metaphorical feces.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some people rather enjoy having feces in their mouths

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is not good at baseball, Giants need good baseball players.

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by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

But that’s not personal.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you like Buster Posey?

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by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why?

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m just asking.

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by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s not personal right?

If I can like Buster Posey, why can’t I dislike Jose Guillen?

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by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like everyone until they give me a reason to not like them. Being slow is not one of those reasons.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

What about not being very good at their job?

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by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then I’d have to hate a good majority of the people in my life.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then you’d be more like a lot of us here…

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gabba gabba one of us!

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by EliminateMe on Sep 7, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Makes life more interesting that way.

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by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or miserable. Either way.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stop questioning my hatred of Guillen. You’re only making me hate him more.

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by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't dislike Guillen

I dislike him as a starting RF. I think that is a job better suited for Cody Ross.

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by FriscoJoe on Sep 7, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Guillen

as a pinch hitter that gets on base. Then gets subbed out for Darren Ford after he gets on base.

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by FriscoJoe on Sep 7, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

He doesnt really get on base. But he would make a fine pinch hitter

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by CB30 on Sep 7, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dislike Guillen. His attitude and approach suck.

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by can of corn on Sep 7, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those would be valid grounds for dislike . . .

. . . but on what do you base your beliefs? What, that is, makes you think he is not giving the Giants the best he has?

That is not a rhetorical question. I am interested in the answer. I know offhand of no evidence of any defects on his part of attitude or approach as a Giant.

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by owlcroft on Sep 7, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll admit I have no knowledge about his time as a Giant (although Burrell’s reaction to him in the dugout recently may be telling). But usually where there’s smoke there’s fire, and Guillen has been a pain in the ass pretty much everywhere he’s played.

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by can of corn on Sep 7, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Give it up . . .

. . . it’s a lost cause. Believe me: I know.

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by owlcroft on Sep 7, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has he ever had a game where he was a positive contributor? This is probably my selective memory but it seems every time he does something good on offense, it only makes up for his terrible defensive plays in prior innings.

by paboperfecto on Sep 7, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

But that’s not personal.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

:)

Giants’ baseball IS personal.

That being said, I don’t spew hatred towards him, I would reserve that for Bochy who keeps trotting him out night after night.

by paboperfecto on Sep 7, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giants’ baseball IS personal.

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"It's Personal Inside!"

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by drdata24 on Sep 7, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

But you know . . .

. . . come right down to it, Bochy is only the mental equivalent of Guillen: doing his best, but handicapped. The real villains of the piece are Sabean, who appears to know that he is doing a poor job (which I daresay is more than Bochy realizes about his own work), and Neukom & Co., who seem incapable of grasping what a GM’s job is and what constitutes good versus poor work.

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by owlcroft on Sep 7, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

have you seen him run?

by TBRMKane on Sep 7, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

But that’s nt personal.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

He doesn’t actually warrant personal hatred. His presence deserves hatred… but he’s the lightning rod.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

He raped me

good enough? Not physically, but still…

by Artimus Clyde on Sep 7, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

not that I would want to see Rowand play

but maybe Torres needs a night off – dude’s looked bad at the plate lately. Of course, there’s NO way you play a Burrel/Rowand/Guillen outfield.

If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.

by wjackalope on Sep 7, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rowand is still pretty dece at center fielding. But yeah, LOLRANGE

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d rather have Rowand in the OF than Guillen.

by Natto on Sep 7, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, Guillen is much better at the plate.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

metaphorical feces is better at the plate than Rowand

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d say it’s a wash.

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by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Based on what?

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

The fact that Rowand’s numbers have been better the last 3 seasons?

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by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I blame Bork for putting him in the lineup everyday. Bork was run out of SD because he was preventing young talent from developing, solely because he rufused to play youngins and went with the vets, day after day.

by giant4life83 on Sep 7, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

we saw this with bengie/posey too, and the only way around it is to get rid of the vets

by giant4life83 on Sep 7, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

an underpants wash?

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not convinced it makes up for his defense.

by Natto on Sep 7, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m convinced it doesn’t.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

i’m not convinced it doesn’t not make up for it

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

:(

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not not convinced that it does or doesn’t not make up for not it. NOT.

by Bochean on Sep 7, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not unconvinced that it doesn’t not…uhh…or…hmm.

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by EliminateMe on Sep 7, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me neither. But I would say you’re gonna get as much productivity, at least, with Guillen rather than Rowand.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have my grandma

in the outfield than Guillen

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by wjackalope on Sep 7, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s ridiculous.

I’ve seen your grandma play and she is a natural shortstop. Why waste her in the outfield?

by Bochean on Sep 7, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

good point

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by wjackalope on Sep 7, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

bahahahha

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s ridiculous. Her range in the infield limits her to 3B at best these days. Luckily, she played some in college.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

She does have a cannon for an arm.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

nate is this guy’s grandmother???

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Explains the heavy beard growth.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a time travel thing. I don’t understand it, myself. If you have questions, talk to Heinlein.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

/looks around expectantly.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

/gets disappointed.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

/quietly puts Heinlein anthology back on shelf.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

My godfather gave me a giant stack of Heinlein books when I turned 12… he left out Stranger In a Strange Land for some reason.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol Heinlein.

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 7, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

:(

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by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now I know what to yell at you in a few hours.

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 7, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now I know what to yell at you in a few hours. a few hours ago

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah Rowand is fine in the field

but you need as much VROOOM as possible with the water buffaloes out there

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by wjackalope on Sep 7, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really, two water buffaloes is one too many in the outfield.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cody Ross

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by CB30 on Sep 7, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

who?

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

So Nate is never getting a start ever again

Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson

by Gobroks on Sep 7, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dunno- he can ask Cody Ross, Ryan Garko, Fred Lewis, Kevin Frandsen, and John Bowker though if he is not sure…

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean if a GW 3B doesn't earn you a start IDK what does

I don’t think Nate is on this team next year

Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson

by Gobroks on Sep 7, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

it might be better for him that way

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by RDreamer on Sep 7, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, probably

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by Gobroks on Sep 7, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love Nate, but he should not invest in Bay Area Real Estate…

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I did hear Guillen was in the lineup tonight. Ugh.

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by Merope on Sep 7, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s also one of the better Giants teams of the past decad

that really really scares me because it’s sadly true. With the resources of the Bay Area how is this true? It also means the WS drought will continue on well into the 2010s and beyond. Maybe we’ll catch the Cubs one day if we’re lucky.

by Rowand's Greatness on Sep 7, 2010 3:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Well the decade just began, so of course they’re the best team. ;)

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by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHY IS GUILLEN?

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 3:23 PM PDT reply actions  

because every time they make a good decision

like not starting Rowand anymore, it has to be paired with an equal and opposite stupid decision, like letting Guillen on the field. Newton said so.

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by wjackalope on Sep 7, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

/Castilla’d

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by EliminateMe on Sep 7, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think we all knew Molina would find his way back on the team in some form, I’m just not sure how he fit into Jose. I figured he’d end up looking like the guy from MIB

by Artimus Clyde on Sep 7, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tonight

Torres CF
Sanchez 2B
Huff 1B
Posey C
Burrell LF
Guillen RF
Uribe 3B
Renteria SS
Lincecum P

Mays' Field McCovey's Cove Bonds' Bleachers

by OneLoveSF on Sep 7, 2010 3:24 PM PDT reply actions  

way to go nate

your reward for getting the game-winning hit yesterday is that you get to ride the pine while we play almost all RHH against a RHP

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by wjackalope on Sep 7, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

“That’s how I roll”
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by seaborn on Sep 7, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's not suggestive at all

nope

not even a little

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec

I don’t even need the picture, the image is burnt into my brain.

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by SeeingStars on Sep 7, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

“This image or video violated our terms of use”

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by SFGuy on Sep 7, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t know if it was there when you posted it or taken off since you put it up.

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by SFGuy on Sep 7, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I put “CURSE YOU, PHOTOBUCKET” as a clue.

by Natto on Sep 7, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyway, considering the context in which it was posted, it should be easy to figure out what they blocked.

by Natto on Sep 7, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Forever protected in my avatar.

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by scout6 on Sep 7, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Forever doing something.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

D:

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 7, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

And this is how he rocks ^.

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Sep 7, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair

Bochy shouldn’t make decisions based off of one PA. But the hypocrisy comes with the fact that he typically does.

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by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL! WHO NEEDZ DEFENZE?

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Sep 7, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

hai gays has anyone posted the lineup yet

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:25 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Pretty sure it’s Sandoval and some other guys.

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by rotorueter on Sep 7, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh yeah, makes sense

thanks!

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL U.

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by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watch out!

Here comes the Rent/Sandoval Platoon…

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure it’s Sandoval Posey and some other guys.

FTFY

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by nvsfg on Sep 7, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if they are going to use the vroom outfield in that expansive park where outfield defense basically won the game yesterday?

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

We would have won it sooner with Guillen in....

-2 runs on defense, + 3 runs he would have driven in on offense.

This has to be the way Bochy thinks….or maybe he doesn’t notice the runs saved on defense because they never happened.

by paboperfecto on Sep 7, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol facebookers
more bench strength too…brought up Velez, Burriss to help…

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I think a bench has more strength than Velez and Burriss do.

by Natto on Sep 7, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

But during BP....

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Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"

by slackersphere17 on Sep 7, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bibgo.

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by owlcroft on Sep 7, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's "Bingo".

Lesson: learn the difference between “Post” and “Preview”.

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by owlcroft on Sep 7, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Irrational though it may be, I still have a soft spot for Burriss. I’m glad he gets to experience a pennant chase. Who knows, maybe he’ll steal a base or make a late-inning defensive gem.

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by Kitspool on Sep 7, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the guy, but I don’t think he’ll play well enough to be a starter. He can provide some pinch-running fun though.

by Natto on Sep 7, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s the backup pinch runner.

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by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s really the backup to the backup pinch runner. I would go:
1) Ford
2) Nate
3) Burriss
4) Vroom

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL NATE.

/PICKED OFF

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by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who on that list has not been picked off?

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ford and Burriss

Nate also can’t steal if needed to. Well he can, but he’ll need two tries.

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL NATE.

/CAUGHT STEALING

Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.

by Solidarity on Sep 7, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd have Burriss PR over Nate

Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson

by Gobroks on Sep 7, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you guys are right. But Nate has the added benefit of being a potential double switch…

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Nate's definitely got the defensive edge

but I think Burriss has more speed and better base running ability

Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson

by Gobroks on Sep 7, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well when you have 25 bench players I don’t think you need to worry about wasting too many players.

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

breaking toes

is not fun

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by OneLoveSF on Sep 7, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably a typo

Should read “more bench length”…the team does, in fact, take up a greater length of bench with Velez and Burriss than without.

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Sep 7, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

But relatively there is less length on the bench

I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz

by CB30 on Sep 7, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why, is the bench approaching the speed of light?

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Sep 7, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only in a vacuum

I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz

by CB30 on Sep 7, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

tonights line-up

pleaz

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by OneLoveSF on Sep 7, 2010 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Randy Winn CF
Emmanuel Burriss SS
Nate Schierholtz RF
Pablo Sandoval C
Scott McClain 3B
Fred Lewis LF
Travis Ishikawa 1B
Eugenio Velez 2B
Jonathan Sanchez P

by Natto on Sep 7, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

time to throw a no-hitter, jonathan.

by seaborn on Sep 7, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s big in Japan!

I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz

by CB30 on Sep 7, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is seriously

a bench i would like to have

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by OneLoveSF on Sep 7, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

there’s like 1.5 major league ballplayers on that list

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"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM

by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

.75 of pablo and .75 of durty?

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by OneLoveSF on Sep 7, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sanchy isnt really a bench player

I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz

by CB30 on Sep 7, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

*ballplayer

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by OneLoveSF on Sep 7, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Carry on

I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz

by CB30 on Sep 7, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah i wasn't counting Sanchez

was thinking Pablo plus half of Fred, basically

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM

by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

but

which half?

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by OneLoveSF on Sep 7, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

the left half?

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM

by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really like this look. Too bad he’s a homophobe, or I might actually find him attractive.

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

this, sadly.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 7, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jeans, belt, Mr.Rodgers jacket, bowtie, sunglasses. LOL

I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz

by CB30 on Sep 7, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s nerd-fresh. I like it.

Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
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"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars

by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I should say, as with many styles, not everyone can pull off this look. But on him it does look good.

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s fresh, while also being clean.

too bad he is a bigoted redneck, as stated elsewhere.

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"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM

by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dont find it fresh or clean. He could pull it off better than me however

I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz

by CB30 on Sep 7, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Free bobbahead"

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fred Bobbahead

Adopted Son: !Matt Downs I'll miss you my son.

by nvsfg on Sep 7, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Canadian half.

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

research
http://www.somaxsports.com/GiantRunners2008.html

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by OneLoveSF on Sep 7, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who is Randy Wynn?

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wynn is unrated

Bowkermania runs wild...in Pittsburgh.

by rightcenterfielder on Sep 7, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol misspelling “Winn” 72 times

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"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM

by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

seems to me

that the angle the picture is taken at could greatly affect said data

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by OneLoveSF on Sep 7, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

SHUT UP

CORRELATION = CAUSATION

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM

by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

post hoc ergo procter hoc

by wizard5ive on Sep 7, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

INTRODUCING

The slowest man in the history of the world! with a stride angle of only 12 Photobucket

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by OneLoveSF on Sep 7, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Strange. Doesn’t look like Guillen.

by Bochean on Sep 7, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

or B$?

Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"

Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"

by slackersphere17 on Sep 7, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think microfiber reduction is French for brutal, painful torture.

Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting that the Giants still have 6 of those guys.

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL Infield defense

Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson

by Gobroks on Sep 7, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

because it deserves to be said again

WHY IS GUILLEN???

"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."

by KINGofCRA5H on Sep 7, 2010 3:58 PM PDT reply actions  

also, in this case, caps lock does not indicate sarcasm

"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."

by KINGofCRA5H on Sep 7, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

there is no possible way that Guillen can cover RF in Arizona

by giant4life83 on Sep 7, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

With most of the Dbacks being left-handed, and considering all the plays that Ross made last night which Guillen wouldn’t have made, why would you start Guillen?

oh, that’s right. Without Guillen, we don’t get runz

by giant4life83 on Sep 7, 2010 4:08 PM PDT reply actions  

The sad part is, this is probably EXACTLY how Bochy is thinking about it.

If Bochy is a traditionalist, and evaluates players using traditional methods, it’s the natural conclusion that Guillen is superior offensively. Bochy can only be who he is.

by Bochean on Sep 7, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t joking when I said Bochy would think the Giants didn’t score until the 11th because Guillen wasn’t in there.

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by SFGuy on Sep 7, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

YOU FUCKING SUCK CA EDD AAKLJFLASJD

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 7, 2010 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Remember. Take your medication and THEN log onto MCC.

by Bochean on Sep 7, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

i’m ok the way he is

by wizard5ive on Sep 7, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

ARGHHH. It makes no sense! They don’t even put you on hold. They just say, oh hey I know it took you like 10 minutes to get to this point but we don’t have anyone to answer your call right now so goodbye!

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 7, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know. I know. Employment Development Department. What do I win?

by Bochean on Sep 7, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

erectile dysfunction district

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM

by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s a horrible prize.

by Bochean on Sep 7, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

elective diverticulitis disaster

Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

try the cantonese number. they speak english and it’s not usually as busy.

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Sep 7, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

PROPS

This team is contending because, against all hope and reason, the Giants have an average-ish offense.
It’s quite average by RS, and maybe a little worse by wRC (but average by EQRS – including adjustments for opponents)

Frankly, I did not think this was possible – let alone likely. But Kudos to Bochy and Sabean, or whatever Gods and Demons they worship, for no matter how the last month plays out, They did their job.

Comparison to 2009 (offense):
Molina → Posey (took a while, but they did, in fact, do this)
Huff as big bat OF/1B, Burrell has been useful, Torres given starting job, Rowand getting benched.
Usual yeoman work in building bullpen from squid scraps. Let Bumgarner take over 5th Starter.

Middle IF has been meh, but Renteria has not been as bad as last year (dead cat bounce), it’s extremely difficult to get good hitters that play here.

Considering the fall off from 2009’s BEST players (Panda, Lincecum), I think we should be quite thrilled to be in it.

When this .sig was awaiting the Final Sabean Apocalypse, I never once in a million years suspected it would be a "good" Apocalypse. Bengie... Don't let the door hit you IN YOUR GIANT ASS on the way out!
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by zenbitz on Sep 7, 2010 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

I think most here would agree that Bochy and Sabean have done their jobs (chasm).

But it’s hard to argue with results. Some will say if we make the playoffs that they were lucky, but results are results.

by Bochean on Sep 7, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but . . .

. . . there are two sides to the equation: runs scored and runs allowed. It has been obvious for months that this was an approximately league-average offense. What has not been obvious to too many people is (as I have noted at least twice elsethread) that the runs-allowed side of things has had the benefit of an awful lot of luck, and is nowhere near as good as it looks (58 runs’ worth better than “deserved” from performance). There are maybe two pitchers on the staff with ERAs nontrivially worse then their performance (Ray and Mota); all the rest are about right or better, often much better.

Four of the current starters are within about .05 on their ERA—only Bumgarner is lucky (but by almost a run on the ERA0. Thus, most of the “miracle” originates in the bullpen—for example, Wilson’s ERA is about a run better than expectation.

(I am well aware that ERA is not a good measure, but here we are just using it as a proxy for runs allowed, noting that the actual runs allowed are far fewer than would be normal with the various men’s stat lines as they are.)

There is not, in my opinion, much room for dramatic improvement in the pen, which even deflated to reality is pretty good—it’s mostly a matter of using the best of what is already available. What’s need for 2011 success is to pump the offense up beyond average by enough to equalize the very probably increase in runs allowed, with maybe 60 runs’ more offense needed. That also is not anything easy to accomplish, because with the lard plug gone there are no obvious black holes in the offense—in fact there is a very good base for growth (if some key re-signings take place). But that’s best reserved for a future Fanpost.

Sabean delenda est!

Professional baseball analyst since 1980.

by owlcroft on Sep 7, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know that you don’t adjust for park effects. Might AT&T explain some of the pitching gap or do you think this is immaterial?

by Bochean on Sep 7, 2010 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually scratch that. Just remembered how you do your calcs and I don’t think the park is relevant.

by Bochean on Sep 7, 2010 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right.

In this case, it’s irrelevant anyway. Park effects may enter into what the stat line is, but not the number of runs that usually come out of a given stat line.

Sabean delenda est!

Professional baseball analyst since 1980.

by owlcroft on Sep 7, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best call up of the day?

Steve Decker.

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU

I tweet (more often than I blarg).

by can of corn on Sep 7, 2010 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Pinch-1st base coach.

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Flannery is a gamer, he’s not going anywhere.

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

/waves home Guillen on a flyball hit to medium RF with no outs

Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson

by Gobroks on Sep 7, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

steve decker? managerial COUP time!!!

by giant4life83 on Sep 7, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

VIVA LA REVOLUCION

somebody make a Che Decker shirt

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Sep 7, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Third base.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 7, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking maybe Bochy could go fishing for a month and let Decker take over.

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU

I tweet (more often than I blarg).

by can of corn on Sep 7, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

That works, too.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 7, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Manager.

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Sep 7, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

GM

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 7, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Both!

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Sep 7, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Commissioner.

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

phenomenal

Photobucket

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by OneLoveSF on Sep 7, 2010 4:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Don’t be obtuse.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Sep 7, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Deivi Cruz

also a free agent

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by OneLoveSF on Sep 7, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

you’ve got that right

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by OneLoveSF on Sep 7, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn straight

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Surely Euclid.

Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

…but only to a certain degre

by wizard5ive on Sep 7, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

great angel

"For all you first-basemen who played first your whole life, that's where Buster plays on his OFF days" - Kuiper

by O R They? on Sep 7, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hypotenuse?

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by OneLoveSF on Sep 7, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

My complements.

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Sep 7, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

The boy hit by Buster's bat last night

is doing well. Apparently, he is a big fan of Buster’s and is honored that it was his bat that hit him.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamondbacks/articles/2010/09/06/20100906arizona-diamondbacks-chase-field-boy-hit-bat.html#reply21012979

♥ NATHAN ♥ Posey ♥ Eugenio ♥ Andres ♥ Sergio ♥ Eli ♥ Travis ♥ LarsTheWanderer ♥

Buster Posey ~ "He’s like a hot, Georgia-bred Stonehenge." TheLetter2

by GiantsBabe on Sep 7, 2010 4:32 PM PDT reply actions  

/apostrophe fail

♥ NATHAN ♥ Posey ♥ Eugenio ♥ Andres ♥ Sergio ♥ Eli ♥ Travis ♥ LarsTheWanderer ♥

Buster Posey ~ "He’s like a hot, Georgia-bred Stonehenge." TheLetter2

by GiantsBabe on Sep 7, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm not seeing it...

the fail, i mean.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM

by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, I wasn’t sure about the second Buster’s….but maybe I was right after all. The fan is the possessive, I guess.

♥ NATHAN ♥ Posey ♥ Eugenio ♥ Andres ♥ Sergio ♥ Eli ♥ Travis ♥ LarsTheWanderer ♥

Buster Posey ~ "He’s like a hot, Georgia-bred Stonehenge." TheLetter2

by GiantsBabe on Sep 7, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

i’m no expert, but if you turn it around, it is indeed Buster’s fan…

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the sound of that.

♥ NATHAN ♥ Posey ♥ Eugenio ♥ Andres ♥ Sergio ♥ Eli ♥ Travis ♥ LarsTheWanderer ♥

Buster Posey ~ "He’s like a hot, Georgia-bred Stonehenge." TheLetter2

by GiantsBabe on Sep 7, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

TWSS!

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Sep 7, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha

I actually meant it that way this time!

♥ NATHAN ♥ Posey ♥ Eugenio ♥ Andres ♥ Sergio ♥ Eli ♥ Travis ♥ LarsTheWanderer ♥

Buster Posey ~ "He’s like a hot, Georgia-bred Stonehenge." TheLetter2

by GiantsBabe on Sep 7, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

TWSS!!

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Sep 7, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

OMG

wow, that was a good one.

DO NOT say it! It really was good, though. I mean, the twss, not what you are trying to make it say. I thought it was really clever.

♥ NATHAN ♥ Posey ♥ Eugenio ♥ Andres ♥ Sergio ♥ Eli ♥ Travis ♥ LarsTheWanderer ♥

Buster Posey ~ "He’s like a hot, Georgia-bred Stonehenge." TheLetter2

by GiantsBabe on Sep 7, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

No fair.

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hahahah thanks :-D

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Sep 7, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good for him that he’s doing well!!

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Sep 7, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

best comment from the article
How could Obama have let this happen?

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM

by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's Arizona's governors fault

Jan Brewer

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Sep 7, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

seriously

we should put the illegal immigrants to work by protecting LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZENS from flying objects at baseball games

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM

by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

THAT BALL WAS AN ANCHOR BALL THAT ALLOWED OTHER BALLS TO IMMIGRATE ILLEGALLY

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Sep 7, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

holy shit

i lolled

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM

by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Sep 7, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOLOL

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 7, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

that was hilarious/terrifying

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

‘hilarifying’

Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Sep 7, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

love it.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM

by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is a little interesting the country didn’t care about Jan Brewer when she was promoting a tax increase to save education.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!

by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

what’s your point here? i’m failing to grasp it.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM

by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

No point, just an observation.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!

by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok!

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

i never heard about a proposed tax increase, that’s why i didn’t care about it.

her debate gaffe, otoh, was on every tv channel and website on earth. that might explain the discrepancy?

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I have a feeling the gaffe wouldn’t have made the news if she hadn’t become this villain figure from SB1070.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh, i agree wholeheartedly.

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I guess my observation is people are too quick to make people into villains.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Duke lacrosse team agrees

although to be honest, Nancy Grace is responsible for 90% if the aforementioned societal problem.

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by RDreamer on Sep 7, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nancy Grace is an odious human being.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Duke thing still pisses me off.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Implicit assumption is in error.

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by owlcroft on Sep 7, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I grant her membership in the species. Others may disagree.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nancy Grace makes me want to put a hole through the wall.

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by djp4cal on Sep 7, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me too

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by Gobroks on Sep 7, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also feel this way

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

who?

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by PiKAgiant on Sep 7, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

You don’t wanna know.

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by djp4cal on Sep 7, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

womens lacrosse?

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by PiKAgiant on Sep 7, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

blowhard ex-prosecutor talking head who made a name for herself during the scott peterson trial. she thinks every accused person is guilty and talks all sorts of nonsense. she’s generally unlikeable and has smarmy look on her face most of the time.

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Sep 7, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

oy vey…. sounds annoying

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by PiKAgiant on Sep 7, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watch The Soup sometime.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok

your point is starting to crystallize for me.

thing is, she’s way on the wrong side of history on this one. if she shows up in the history books at all, it’ll be with the Orval Faubuses of the world. in short, she really fucking blew it.

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Orval Faubus is quite a name

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Sep 7, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think it might be a point in observation’s clothing

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Nice Orval E. Faubus III reference

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by RDreamer on Sep 7, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Name me someone who's ridiculous, Dannie

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by EliminateMe on Sep 7, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

In my mind she deserves all the negative attention she got for SB1070. She may do OK in other capacities, but that doesn’t automatically make up for her bad behavior.

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

SB1070 has a 70% approval rating, by the way. Andi n the end, it’s not as bad as the edia portrays it.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

70% in AZ?

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know that’s the approval rating in AZ. I think it’s pretty close to that around the country.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gallup Feb 2009

“In fact, Charles Darwin is noted for developing the theory of evolution. Do you, personally, believe in the theory of evolution, do you not believe in evolution, or don’t you have an opinion either way?”
 
            .
Believe in
Evolution 39%

Do Not Believe
In Evolution 25%

No OpinionEither Way 36%

No Answer 1%

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suppose “don’t care” falls under “no opinion.”

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes that seems like the right spot for it…

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously, it happened billions of years ago. Why is it such a passionate issue?

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think that is the problem. somewhere on the order of 75 million americans think it happened 6000 years ago (or thereabouts)…

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's a religious issue

that makes it passionate

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by RDreamer on Sep 7, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

THIS

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

It didn’t just happen billions of years ago. It’s still happening.

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by rotorueter on Sep 7, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

this really isn't the right place for a debate on evolution

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by RDreamer on Sep 7, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marlins 3 Philz 2 Bottom 4

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

GO MARLINS

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by RDreamer on Sep 7, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never understood how there could be a debate about evolution.

It’s real. End of debate.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

BELIEVE IN SCIENCE

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by RDreamer on Sep 7, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

1.) I don’t care if its 100% approval rating, I still think it’s terrible

2.) I had to read SB1070 for a a seminar class this summer. I stand by my assessment of her and it.

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find modern opinions on democracy to be quite interesting.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not really sure what this has to do with what I said

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s saying if enough people want to violate a group’s civil rights, it should be okay. Because, you know, the majority.

/really should stop with the sex in the champagne room

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by can of corn on Sep 7, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t this exactly why the founding fathers did not choose direct democracy?

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Ben Franklin is the reason for the no sex in champagne room rule.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 7, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Direct democracy is a pirate ship

A republic is the only way to have a free country with millions of people.

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by RDreamer on Sep 7, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

And yet, how many people believe that, yet are still pissed about the 2000 election?

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

The electoral college as we know it is not a prerequisite for a republic.

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by Solidarity on Sep 7, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s a huge difference between the means by which a public official is elected and using opinion polls as de facto proof of the legitimacy/constitutionality of a specific law or policy.

by apistat on Sep 7, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

just like prop h8

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Sep 7, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

And yet democracy doesn’t trump basic civil rights or contravene the Constitution, no matter how hard some people may try.

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by can of corn on Sep 7, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

And yet there’s a very legitimate case that 1070 does not breach civil rights.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, no there’s not. There are about 8 ways it can be found unconstitutional and a whole lot of case law to backup that ruling.

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

The way it was likely to play out is a person gets pulled over, the cop asks for license and registration, and if the person does not have license and registration, they get their legality verified in a computer system. Doesn’t seem like a civil rights violation.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here’s where you reading a little case law first would help: the cops may not pull you over without reasonable suspicion. Your argument premises reasonable suspicion on little more than a person’s perceived race. That is absolutely a violation of the constitution.

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

The law says you can’t be pulled over without having committed an existing crime.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

fixed for accuracy.

The way it was likely to play out is a person brown person gets pulled over, the cop asks for license and registration, and if the person brown person does not have license and registration, they get their legality verified in a computer system. Doesn’t seem like a civil rights violation.

by apistat on Sep 7, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you want to interpret it that was, sure.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would you expect a cop to check if my blindingly white self was a US citizen if I was pulled over and said I forgot my wallet at home?

Now what if I was hispanic and didn’t speak very much english?

by apistat on Sep 7, 2010 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever. I’m at the point where I just want this to go to the Supreme Court. I’d love to see Scalia try and figure out a way to deem SB1070 constitutional in spite of all SCOTUS opinions to the contrary.

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

He can cite citizens united as precedent that precedent can be thrown out when making a ruling. Then the planet will collapse upon itself like a neutron star.

by apistat on Sep 7, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair, she kinda made stuff about headless bodies to score political points. She kinda deserves it.

/I know, no sex in the champagne room

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by can of corn on Sep 7, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

And yeah, that was stupid.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never heard about her proposed tax increase for education. I think that’s a great idea. I still think she’s bigoted.

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

It already passed. Back when she proposed the increase, she was deemed as a lame duck for the upcoming GOP primary, and thus was about to be unemployed. Then SB1070 happened.

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK

I never heard about her proposed passed tax increase for education. I that’s a great idea. I still think she’s bigoted.

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by Prussian Creole on Sep 7, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t it about time MLB requires a strap on the end of bats to stop this from happening?
no. because then the guys would have to run the bases with their bats?????

by wizard5ive on Sep 7, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

goddammit

comments on news sites make me despair for all of humanity

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

GET A BRAIN MORANS

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by RDreamer on Sep 7, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cardinals fans.

/shakes head

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was reading comments from a Baggs article the other day

And they were calling Wilson “Gas Can”

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by Gobroks on Sep 7, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t see how having a strap on at the end of a bat would solve this problem.

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by groug on Sep 7, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

having a strap on can solve certain problems

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by delorean on Sep 7, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

increase your stride angle

by wizard5ive on Sep 7, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would just make hands detach and fly into the stands.

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by can of corn on Sep 7, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

eBay

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by slackersphere17 on Sep 7, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

It worked for the Wiimote!

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by Solidarity on Sep 7, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you were allowed to bat the second baseman when trying to break up a double play that would be ok by me

by capn on Sep 7, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

There already exists a product to solve this problem.

It is called simply the “Bat Glove”, and could be in use right now. That it is not is, more or less literally, a scandal. Read all about it right here.

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by owlcroft on Sep 7, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

The kid had to fight off the strong temptation not to thank him after the said event.

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by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I knew Buster Posey drank dos equiis

by wizard5ive on Sep 7, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't often hit spectators with a bat

But when I do, I hit fans of me.

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by RDreamer on Sep 7, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"

Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"

by slackersphere17 on Sep 7, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL!

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by GiantsBabe on Sep 7, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

"I GET KNOCKED DOWN

BUT I GET UP AGAIN"

Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"

Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"

by slackersphere17 on Sep 7, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I GET KNOCKED UP

BUT I GET DOWN AGAIN

I cannot be the first one to think of that, can I?

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by zenbitz on Sep 7, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jose Guillen....

is turning into the new Aaron Rowand, IN that I wonder what dirty pictures he has of BORK and or Sabean to keep getting his name into the lineup/

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Sep 7, 2010 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Cody Ross since 2007: .272/.328/.473
Jose Guillen in same: .268/.323/.430

by GiantPain on Sep 7, 2010 5:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Guillen has defense and speed and clubhouse presence obviously

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by CB30 on Sep 7, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

dont forget the ribeyez

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by KINGofCRA5H on Sep 7, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Schulman

BE WARNED. IT COSTS A LOT TO REPLACE A WORN-OUT ALL-CAPS KEY. RT @androog: HEY GUYS LET’S KEEP PLAYING A TOTALLY WORTHLESS PLAYER IN RF. 2 minutes ago via Echofon

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by KINGofCRA5H on Sep 7, 2010 5:14 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL BONDS LEGEND

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Sep 7, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 7, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

SUCK IT BONDSLEGEND

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lol bondslegend

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by CB30 on Sep 7, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love when stuff like this happens.

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by rotorueter on Sep 7, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

twss

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by PiKAgiant on Sep 7, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gotta go cover a city council meeting instead of watching Tim pitch. Yay me!

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by cheno on Sep 7, 2010 5:21 PM PDT reply actions  

This 30 for 30 piece on ESPN is pretty awesome

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by CB30 on Sep 7, 2010 5:21 PM PDT reply actions  

THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME!!!!

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by PiKAgiant on Sep 7, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Mike Tyson is telling me to calm down, I better calm down”

Tupac

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by CB30 on Sep 7, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

TRUTH

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by PiKAgiant on Sep 7, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

seen it a million times dude

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by PiKAgiant on Sep 7, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

theres more than just that quote. it like the “best of tyson”

by giant4life83 on Sep 7, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know, do you understand Mike Tyson was on all the time on youtube last year because my big loved his quotes?

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by PiKAgiant on Sep 7, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

i had just forgotten how funny the things he says are. I’ve heard it all before as well

by giant4life83 on Sep 7, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

The dude talks nonsense, but lately seems to have been kept in check

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by PiKAgiant on Sep 7, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

personally, i think he is humbled by the world a little bit now. i saw this thing recently and he really let it all spill… dude had a rough life.

by giant4life83 on Sep 7, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guess so, and this documentary is fucking awesome

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by PiKAgiant on Sep 7, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think that’s the one I saw, came out maybe within the last year? he’s at his house, sitting on this white couch most of the time while they interview him IIRC

by giant4life83 on Sep 7, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

i love anything tyson has to say.

“im gonna eat your children”

by giant4life83 on Sep 7, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was Tupac really that crazy? sometimes?

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Sep 7, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

is it the vegas one? I really want to see that one.

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Sep 7, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

TUpac and Tyson, yea

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Sep 7, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shift A

Was "z"ing through, made it to the circle jerk discussion and just decided to Shift A it all.

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Sep 7, 2010 5:28 PM PDT reply actions  

You’re missing out on some enlightening discussion.

by Natto on Sep 7, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Any highlights?

Other than the magazine?

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Sep 7, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Evolution

I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz

by CB30 on Sep 7, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s important stuff, scout.

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Sep 7, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just control f'd that name

I am indeed enlightened.

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Sep 7, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

stride angle

research

Mays' Field McCovey's Cove Bonds' Bleachers

by OneLoveSF on Sep 7, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ronnie Belliard DFA'd

LOL DODGERS

Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.

by Solidarity on Sep 7, 2010 5:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Manny is his idol.

"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow

by DrDC on Sep 7, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aren't baseballs made in Costa Rica?

Don’t most of them go to the United States?

Aren’t most of them carrying drugs?

So, why can’t I open your trunk because you look Mexican?

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Sep 7, 2010 5:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Incidentally . . .

. . . Akinori Iwamura appears to be available. He had a terrible 2010, but a pretty good career till then. Considering that his BABIP was .211 this year versus well over .300 before, I wonder if he would be a reasonable risk. Yes, we already have not one but two second basemen, but one wonders . . . .

Sabean delenda est!

Professional baseball analyst since 1980.

by owlcroft on Sep 7, 2010 6:34 PM PDT reply actions  

That would be a good pickup.

Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.

by dregarx on Sep 7, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

A good buy-low pickup

BUY-LOW, Sabes… not market value please

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Sep 7, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sadly, Iwamura has never hit .300.

So he will not be considered.

Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.

by dregarx on Sep 7, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

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