A request to the moderator

We tried the dedicated OT threads for awhile, but they got unmanageable very quickly and were abandoned. I don’t really know how to deal with this, honestly. Overflow post-game threads could be a good idea. I don’t know. Maybe something like Purple Row does, where they have the “Morning Rockpile” that sort of takes another look at the game from last night and looks around the NL West? That could be kind of a cool feature to add.

I’m in this line.

Agreed. And a lot of time things go OT in the midst of discussing something relevant to the game. You’re basically setting people up to start bickering with one another about when something has gone from relevant to OT. And that’s not going to help anyone.

you forgot the one for just Howie pics

Why don’t people just get more powerful computers?

what about porn?

rec’d

in his where are they now post he was talking about fred lewis’s awful 2009

lexluth is talking about the post-game threads, not the game day threads. We already have overthrow game day threads – the mods create them as needed when the threads start to get too big.

A few more basics:

5) Huff-related comedy?
6) Posey dreaminess factor?
7) Jazz hands sighting?
8) Wilson facial hair configuration?

See, I’m not so into this. I love lunch/dinner threads and I don’t think they should be discouraged.

It might come down to computer and internet speed. It’s easy enough for me to blast past lunch threads, 50 Beat LAs, conversations between two people about something particular to them, and the like. A little harder to blast past OT discussions, since they often get juicy and sometimes change Off Topic topics.

Recced.

Would a separate daily thread, “The Bull Pen,” be something that could work?

that’s not “easy.”

It can be tricky to navigate those big threads, and it’s easy to get distracted by some OT discussion. It can also take practice. a newcomer may not know to look beyond the massive OT discussion for the baseball kernels.

But really its these kernels that these complaints against the 1000 comment monsters are looking for. How do you answer the “How did MadBum pitch?” “Yeah Great!” or a bit more informative: “Velocity was up. Stayed in the zone. The Snakes seemed baffled. I think his stat-line well reflects his play today” Maybe you get some sort of more professional sounding scouting report. But really, we can say a couple of things to answer the question. Most of us agree and the “discussion” ends before it begins.

Then someone asks for advice with working out, child rearing and sitting in a baseball stadium, or says something about their favorite pork or pork-like product. An actual discussion ensues.

I think we need to me more open to Ctrl-F – load thread. skim it or search it for the topic you want. If you want to talk baseball, post your own comment – it will get some response, and some people will read it. More people will read it than if you make it a fan shot. If it is making a big baseball discussion splash, or you honestly expect it to, then it can move to its own Fanpost.

I’ve had great success in the past asking questions in GDT or PGTs about certain play – what was the deal with Nate’s pickoff? How did Posey look a the plate? But then they get answered and the wave rushes on to discuss todays hot-not-baseball-topic. Whatever.

That also means we should try to accept that people may have missed a baseball discussion somewhere in the thread, if something pops up as a comment at the bottom, even when GASP it was already briefly discussed above. An entire conversation could happen about Bumgarner’s or Lincecum’s performance, without using his real name, or even MadBum, or whatever his most popular nickname is. “How durty was Durty?” “So how fast was BTTJ today?” “He was …” Will escape the Ctrl-F tactic.

I was just thinking the same thing. If you don’t want to listen to the late night ramblings and you’ve broken your z key… be nice to have ye olde + / – buttons to open and/or shut the subthreads.

Not sure if it’s compatible with the auto refresh though.

I like the blend of OT and baseball talk, it allows folks to show off their personalities and for us to get to know each other beyond the LOLineups and BORK.

I do think overflow post game threads would be a good idea though. My computer makes helicopter noises when I open those from time to time.

This is exactly what I do.

is what I do as well, or I will search to find something I was talking about the previous night or day or whatever, and see if there is a response.

/goes to minor lines and starts posting recipes

/mentions to capn that his name always makes me think of Cap’n Crunch

/holds up lighter

only if you know what my quoted portion means.

I know you like to post in the minor lines, I’m sure in part because it stays primarily on point. Why don’t you (or anyone else on this site who feels the same way you do, including the OP) just make your own daily baseball talk only post every day. It could be called Hardcore Baseball 9/9 (or whatever the date was), and would be dedicated entirely to serious baseball talk — no OT allowed. A mod could participate, or at least check in often enough to keep order.

I know I would check in something like that and respect the rules. I’m sure many others would, too. Those who find it too dry could simply avoid that thread.

I totally understand this – I just get frustrated by what I see as complaints about the site that I don’t really see what the answer to is. And just saying, “Stop making OT posts” or “Stop replying to OT posts” isn’t realistic, unless you want us to start deleting OT comments, which, again, isn’t realistic because I don’t think anyone on the site has the time to moderate it that heavily. We tried a dedicated OT Post and it worked at first, but ran out of steam very quickly. We tried a dedicated baseball Post-Game Thread but no one seemed interested in it. Hopefully, we’re going to try a few other things out, but don’t act as though all we’re doing is telling people to “Get over it”, please.

I’m with you on Shift-A. I blame Grant.

The off-topic banter made me a regular here…but the excess of it has made me a very irregular poster.

Thanks for putting this into words Brute. I mostly lurk the couple of years I’ve been here (so no delusions of grandeur), but the McC memes have definitely been ingrained into my vocabulary. I enjoy reading a lot of the stuff that gets posted here, but I have noticed a spike in excessive arguing.

I think I generally agree with you, BruteSentiment. I highly value many things about the community here, but oftentimes the sheer volume keeps me away.

In some ways, this is just a function of volume, period. I get weary of long, unrelated-to-my-interests OT discussions, but also long over-argued baseball discussions. I don’t really find the voluminous debates about marginal players all that exciting, usually. Some people do, of course, and everyone wants to be heard. When that everyone goes from a few hundred to a few thousands (or tens to hundreds, or whatever), it’s no surprise that a lot of stuff gets rehashed. I don’t think I mind there being off topic stuff or long, redundant on-topic arguments, but mining the gold from the dross is becoming an effort. Sometimes worth it, sometimes not.

I would definitely follow a more dedicated baseball thread. I don’t know how successful it would be long term. I’d like to see an effort, at least, whether Fanpost or main page.

I’ve been part of three chat rooms in my net career, which ain’t that much, and they’ve all gone that way.

You are still alive.

RAGE FOR US

Is that EVERY user shall post one at least every six moths, or there should be just one post for all users, and we malcontents get to fight over who does it?

BTW, good to see you.

I think MCC is perfect just the way it is. and apparently so does Dave Fleming.

“MCC is like the Kruk and Kuip of the interwebs.”

Did you hear them discussing MADAGASCAR on the post-game last night? OMG, OT topics on the actual Giants broadcast. What if I tuned in for news?!?!?!

I would argue that MCC is a little more of the Jon Miller flavor

The offseason around here is painful with the rampant rosterbating.

go ‘way, i’m ‘batin’

This place is terrible and it’s all your fault.

There is the IRC chat room. Most seem too lazy to use it though.

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It never occurred to me to look at it that way. I can’t really fault you for being bothered by that. I know for me personally, despite all the OTing I do, I still really appreciate your posts and I would guess the vast majority of the people who post here do too. They’re the reason I even started reading this blog 2 years ago.

I really think an "ignore user" function would work wonders on this site, though.

I’d prefer the suggested ability to close sub-threads. There are very few people I want to ignore, just topics. On or off.

Besides, Grant, you know you’d be the #2 most ignored user.

/ignores user

Nowadays we talk about lunch because that’s part of the deal here. Originally I participated in those discussion because it seemed like a better use of bandwidth than writing “LOL! Good point, Grant!” and then quoting the part that was the funniest or had the best Dungeons & Dragons reference in it.

The ironic thing is that we’d probably spend a lot more time discussing your opinions if they were crazier. Saying things that resemble what actually happened and staking out reasonable opinions on controversial subjects lends itself to having a contented user base happily making Kimothy Batiste jokes in the comments. By now, I hope that you take the OT of the site as a compliment, even though I understand some of the sentiment that Brute and MB are expressing.

That’s all of the nice things I’m going to write about you for the rest of the year, BTW.

I feel terrible now… we were supposed to have been reading all those words at the top of the post this whole time?

/ignores user

I personally haven’t used it, but zephyr at Japers’ Rink wrote a script for greasemonkey that can ignore and favorite users, found here. So if anyone wants an ignore user function, there you go.

There’s also a hide comments without subject lines script, if that’s also a concern to people. But, like before, I haven’t tried it.