Post-game thread: Giants flail, fail against Billingsley
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 3, 2010 9:38 PM PDT
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PrintTo be fair, there’s a chance that Jose Guillen would have hit a two-run home run in the sixth inning if the home plate ump didn’t invent a new strike zone.
To be fair, there’s no excuse for Barry Zito walking two hitters to start an inning. That’s the kind of thing you expect from a 20-year-old rookie.
With those points out of the way, I’m pretty sure 95% of the right fielders in professional baseball could have caught Chad Billingsley’s line drive single. General rule: if it hits Jose Guillen in the glove, most right fielders could have caught it. Addendum to the general rule: if it hits Jose Guillen in the glove, there’s a good chance the anthropomorphic trash heap from "Fraggle Rock" could have caught it.
I’ll concede that maybe I’m being unfair. Maybe I have a dogmatic view of how a team should be built, and if a player falls outside of that view, I won’t give him a fair shake. Maybe. But here’s a post-game thread with a mission. I defy anyone -- anyone -- to explain how Jose Guillen is a better player than Cody Ross without referencing runs batted in.
I’ll wait.
Even if their defensive abilities were even, it’s not quite a fair fight. Both hitters are low-average, high-power, and oft-hacking types. Over the past three years, though, Ross has been the better power hitter, with 20+ home runs in a tough Florida park and plenty of doubles. It’s close, and Ross has some definite platoon splits that Guillen doesn’t have, but Ross has been the better hitter for a couple of years now.
Then you factor in that Ross runs well, and Guillen looks like he’s running with Saturn’s gravity. Then you factor in that Ross can field, Carlos Gonzalez’s broken-bat liner notwithstanding, and Guillen is lucky if he doesn’t swallow his mitt when he tries to catch a fly ball. How is Guillen worth playing over Ross?
One valid argument. That’s all I ask. Why is Guillen a better option to start over Jose Guillen? Throw me a bone. Maybe the game wouldn’t still be tied, but there’s a good chance it would be if anyone else were playing right field.
Zito was garbage, yes. The rest of the non-Posey offense was hot garbage, yes. But a team needs to play its best players. I don’t think Jose Guillen falls under that description, and I think it cost the Giants tonight.
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This game sucks
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
icwudt
or whatever
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Sep 3, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I see where this is going.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 3, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not a fan of Zito or Guillen right now. GET IT TOGETHER.
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Yes, him too.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
UGH
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Oh and here's your argument
Almost a .400 OBP, nerds!
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
.432 BABIP with the Giants
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Sep 3, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll counter that. The number of runs that have scored because of his poor defense (UZR at -3), in addition to the dropped fly ball vs ARI, and tonights, that is 7 runs extra allowed.
Factoring in his batting stats, he about breaks even. BREAKS EVEN
Again, it was chasm/mocking somebody else.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
DENIED
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 3, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah he was banned
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
couple days ago, it was beyond trolling he was just being a prick
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
In the Huff+Burrell love thread, he was being an asshat from the posts I skimmed over.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Sep 3, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah
It was just us Wimmins overreacting cause of our ovaries. Or something.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I CAN’T. I’M HYSTERICAL BECAUSE I’M A WOMAN.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting sidebar:
“Hysterical” derives from the root hyster, meaning uterus. One might argue that, absent surgery, all women are “hysterical”.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Yeah, that’s actually why I used the word there. I figured most people knew this already.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
calm down, you two.
calm.
down.
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"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
I’M SO UPSET RIGHT NOW I DON’T KNOW WHAT I MIGHT DO!!! SOMEONE GET ME TO A FAINTING COUCH!!!
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
shit!
i want a fainting couch
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LOL, my great-aunt actually had one. But she’s into that whole look. Always looked like the Victorian era vomited all over her house.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
whoa
did you find that at Purple Row?
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Oddly, that’s the profile pic for every last member of PR. Except for Mondogarage’s. His is, oddly, just a medical monitor flatline.
I thought his would be a hot air balloon, safe and sound, soaring high above the streets of Denver.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I just looked that up. Never heard of it before, but that’s pretty damned funny.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I can scan in a sonogram if you need me to. . .
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I tweet (more often than I blarg).
LOL
The other day I very calmly told someone to go fuck himself. I didn’t actually know that was possible before I did it.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
He had it coming. And it was even more satisfying that it really seemed to upset him that I wasn’t upset or fazed at all.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Women with attitude, i like it! and yea, he did have it coming, douchebag
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
LOL
I love how you just took my side with NO CLUE of whom I’m referring to.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
;) because why? i just assume everything is directed at
hoky
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
No, I didn’t tell him to go fuck himself I just attacked his datability. This was an ex-boyfriend.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
How did I know someone would make this joke?
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
My money was on delorean. Natto was a darkhorse candidate.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
bad pun was bad
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Agreed. But I can appreciate the mention. I don’t see nearly enough comic book talk around here, relative to Rush talk.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
YOUR LADY PARTS ARE CONFUSING YOUR BRAIN
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 3, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
oh, what did I miss...
/auto-defenestrates
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Sep 3, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s an entire post dedicated to the recent banning/warning activity.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
This
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don't know how I missed that
As I said earlier today, it’s only been 5 years I’ve been here, I’ll pick it up eventually.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Sep 3, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
The biggest mistake tonight
was taking out Zito and burning the bullpen. Now THE ENTIRE bullpen is fried for the road trip. LOL.
i have no issue with pulling Z after 4
he was a fucking mess tonight, and the rosters are expanded, so you’ve got more arms, etc etc
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"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
chasm? Only used Ray, Affeldt and Casilla, nobody I would consider too valuable.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Ah well done
He had a lot of work though so it’s tough to remember.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Guillen could have fifty trillion RBIs and he’d still suck.
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Sep 3, 2010 9:45 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I think that’s untrue. I could go for an additional fifty trillion RBI right now.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 3, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
He forgot to mention that was over a trillion year span.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Sep 3, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
But they all come in games where we’re leading by so much already that they don’t matter
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Uribe needs a few days off, I think.
Guillen needs a few seasons off, I think.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Hate to say this, but the Chicago sportswriters say that Guillen is one of the reasons the Giants may have a shot at the plauoffs.
Which really says a lot about those sportswriters
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I imagine most Chicago sportswriters are very well informed about the Giants.
“The Giants need outfield help and badly – a guy named Andres Torres has played 122 games for them this year! I’ve never even heard of him!”
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
they really say that? they should consider looking at stats before passing judgement.
by giant4life83 on Sep 4, 2010 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions
You sir
have just fallen very far.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Better chance than the Giants against Billinsley.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Sep 3, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Bottom of the 9th in SD
Street coming in
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Is it just me or have their been an inordinate amount of stomach-punch type losses this season? Eckstein walk-off home run. Losing after coming back down 9 runs. Broken bat triple to lose a lead. The Giants sure live up to the torture tag.
needz moar brushback fastballs
Choppin' broccoli
by SimpleJaquez on Sep 3, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Have Matt put one in his ear tomorrow
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
This game doesn’t feel like one of those. But it’s September and we just lost to the Dodgers. We lost to Billingsley yet again.
I’m not saying this was one of them. I’m just commenting on this season. I was going to make a longer post about this in Fanshot form, but I’m a lazy writer.
I’m burnt.
I want to write for Niner’s Nation. I could do 16 of these without the desire for self-immolation.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 3, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeff from LL just talked about this!
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2010/9/1/1664817/52-81-game-thoughts
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
Jeff and Grant are eerily similar
Not in the Fontenot way though
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Yeah, they're both really good writers
and are both quite funny
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
I just think that’s baseball. I don’t really consider this game that bad, it was just another “ugh.”
Definitely doesn’t compare to Monday’s game, or games like the Cuzzi, Werth, Manny, games.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Manny dinger.
Reds comeback.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
5 losses hurt me a lot
1. Manny 2 run homer off Romo in the 8th
2. Werth bloop double against Wilson
3. Coming back down 9 runs and then losing it
4. Broken bat triple
5. Home plate ump ruling Ishikawa out when he was clearly safe
by giants92388 on Sep 3, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That’s more than a little unfair. The Giants’ pitching has been two settings above slapshod, which I believe is “shit-tay.”
thank you!!
if i was a pitcher, it would screw up my whole game trying to keep people from hitting the ball to RF.
moreso, really, I just want to make myself feel better by ripping on Guillen. He’s a worthless POS
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
well, this is one time I actually won't blame Bochy for IBB-ing to get to the pitcher.
That should have ended the inning. I know, I know, shoulda coulda woulda.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
in this case, shoulda coulda woulda DOES apply because it cost us the game. it only doesn’t apply when more runs are scored later
I think the lists others have posted in this thread fit that criteria much better.
We weren’t robbed tonight. We lost a bad game. There IS a difference.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
this loss is 80% on Zito
10 on the offense
5 on Bochy
5 on the defense
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
I know I’m just splitting hairs at this point, but the offense deserves a lot more blame for two hits, only one of which was hit hard.
you could certainly argue for that
however, i think we’ve got to acknowledge that Billingsley is a really, really good pitcher who had the Giants off-balance all night.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
you could,
but that wouldn’t be accurate. The Giants hitters weren’t up there doing their flailing thing — they just got beat.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
which seems to happen 2 out of every 5 games
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants have trouble with pitchers that throw the ball
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
no. I just want to sit here and blame Guillen, because i am so pissed
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
i know im overreacting about Guillen, maybe rightfully so, but really, im just pissed. i shouldnt even be on here right now. blah. just disregard me tonight
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s the hope that makes it hurt so much.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 3, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
UnG: Grant, take a deep breath and put down the controller.
Grant: YOU WANT MY BLOOD!
/auto-defenestrates
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Sep 3, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
MY PROBLEM IS THAT I CAN’T EVEN FIND THE FUCKING REMOTE. WHERE DID YOU PUT IT YOU DRUNKEN HARPY, WHERE IS IT, OH GOD BROOKE SHIELDS WHAT THE FUCK HELP ME?!
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 3, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
The llama ate it
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I wouldn't be shocked to hear his boss laughing outside holding Grant's remote
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
Wait, let's think about this rationally
Brook Shields circa Suddenly Susan or the Blue Lagoon.
Dude, it matters.
/auto-defenestrates
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Sep 3, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Zito . . .
is a much better choice to start than Zito.
/the more evolved Zito/
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
The ball clearly hit the ground before Guillen got to the ball. Blame his lack of range if you want to, but I saw some posts that stated that he dropped the ball, when he clearly didn’t. I blame Zito for this loss. He shouldn’t be giving up ropes to the opposing pitcher with the bases loaded. You see what happened when Zito left the game? All of a sudden the Dodgers couldn’t score. The guy’s winless with an ERA close to 6.00 since August. I’m sick of him. Maybe we should consider replacing him with Hacker in the rotation for the rest of the season.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Sep 3, 2010 9:50 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
No, he didn't drop it; it's definitely a range issue...
…but why take the chance when we have 900 other outfielders on the roster who haven’t been having leg issues in the last six months?
Oh, sorry Nate.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
This
why take the chance? in a close game, you don’t put out a cripple
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Also FTFY
why take the chance? i
n a close game pennant race,you don’t put out a cripple
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
by DrDC on Sep 3, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
points well made on all accounts
/makes self feel better
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't see what Guillen has done wrong...
…Other than be himself. I don’t see him lacking in effort or being a jerk. I think he’s giving his best effort. It’s just that his best effort isn’t very good. If you want to call out someone, call out Bochy for continuing to play him, especially after Ross was acquired. Call out Sabean for thinking Guillen would be a good player to acquire.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
by tobias on Sep 3, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
This is a good point
/auto-defenestrates
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Sep 3, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s Bochy who Kuip needs to call out.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Sep 3, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Your argument is perfectly logical, but every time he demonstrates that he is not a particularly good baseball player, your gut reaction isn’t to curse Sabean’s name (unless you’re Fire Sabean, maybe). It’s to cuss out the guy who made the mistake.
The lamentations about Bochy and Sabean come a little bit later.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
and Sabean hasn’t really screwed up much THIS year. Huff, Burrell, trading Bengie and why we are where we are. Yes, he acquired Guillen, but Bork didn’t have to play him EVERY. SINGLE. GAME.
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
But it was inevitable that Bochy would. If Sabean wasn’t aware of this, he’s a complete idiot. So by signing Guillen, he brought in a new starter for Bochy. Which also makes him a complete idiot.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
ANd it’s not Sabeans’s fault that Bochy is managing this team either damn it.
by cybermaldonado on Sep 3, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
What??!?!!?!?
Then whose fault is it? Who has hire/fire authority over the field manager?
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Ahem.
Who re-signed Molina in the first place? A player so bad that getting rid of him became priority #1, to the extent that people are now giving Sabean credit merely for undoing his own grotesque error—a player so bad his misfeasance for three months probably made the difference between a pennant and “wait till next year” (or till even Neukom sees the twenty-foot-high boldface writing on the wall).
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
well you do have to take into account how much Sabean refuses to say “i screwed up” so in the big picture, him offing bengie after signing him is a real big deal
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Preacher, meet choir.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Bingo . . .
. . . to the googol.
I keeep saying: players don’t sign themselves, players don’t make out the lineup card.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
HAWT
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
ONLY TWO GODDAMN HITS?
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Jose Guillen should start because he is a veteran with playoff experience. You just can’t overstate how important that is to a bullpen.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
lol bullpen
I meant to say clubhouse, but it’s not like there’s any more evidence for one over the other.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
It’s important to the bullpen too
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
When Guillen got on in the second
Vin Scully started talking about how fast he was…
It was at this moment that I muted the game…When’s Vin’s monotonous tone doesn’t get me, his outdated facts on index cards that he repeats over and over again does…
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Sep 4, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
It is a rarity . . .
. . . to ever hear him get anything right. He certainly can’t even pronounce players’ names. The only way one might “enjoy” hearing him do a game is if one spoke zero English and just listened for the soothing drone. As Slappy Squirrel might put it, What a yutz.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
You can dislike him if you like but the lack of respect for someone who has given 70 years to the game is appalling.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
He is well past his prime and makes a ton of mistakes now but he deserves more respect than being called “a yutz”.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
For what?
Perhaps there was some Golden Age of Vin Scully when he actually gave a rat’s ass about the accuracy of what he was saying, but it seems hard to believe in the light of what he is today. Why are we supposed to have “respect” for someone based on sheer longevity at a job when he obviously doesn’t have much respect for the job itself? For pity’s sake, just listen to him—not his drone and his folksy style, but what he is actually saying. Almost everything, including what viewers can see with their own eyes, is mostly or entirely wrong. I respect an announcer who makes some effort at preparation, who has more background than what the PR department hands out pre-game and the Media Guides say. I respect an announcer who makes some effort to communicate with players, or even to just get their names approximately correct.
(Anyone remember the “Sant-angle-o” story?)
I have had extensive conversation with a man who used to produce Scully’s broadcasts, and if half of what he told me—and he seemed highly credible—is correct, Scully is not a very nice human being under all that put-on warmth. But that is actually immaterial to the job he does, which is awful. His job is to accurately describe what is happening on the field, give some good insight into why it is happening, and back it up with some analysis of the players, managers, and coaches. He does none of that correctly, and it is plain that he doesn’t feel the need to try to: I am The Great and Powerful Vin!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I agree with owlcroft
Maybe Vin was great a while ago, but he’s clearly way over the hill now. It happens to the best of us (even Willie… kind of).
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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(Willie as a player, I mean)
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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owl has zero respect for the man
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I respect the man's legacy
But dude needs to have his farewell already.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Lon Simmons got to be the same way. He’d ramble all over the place and get lost in what he was saying, where he was going, and what was going on in the game. It got to the point where it was very difficult for me to continue listening to him. I didn’t need that daily reminder of my own mortality.
He did but we shouldn’t call him a “yutz” either (which no one did). He would deserve better respect than that.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I would never call Lon anything but . . .
. . . “sir”. He was a great announcer, and even at the end, he was entertaining and—most relevant here—he was giving it his best.
I have far more respect for David Glass than Vin Scully, because say what one will, Dave gave it his heart and soul. Scully just doesn’t give a flying wahoo, and coasts on his put-on fake personality.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I won’t keep arguing here. We can agree to disagree.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I think he does have more respect for the game. He is just 20 years past his prime.
BTW, locally, Hank Greenwald wasn’t that nice of man either.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
He was always pleasant to me.
That’s as much as I can say, though from reading his autobiography, I can see a certain amount of irritability below the surface. But I try to speak to what I know, whether of Scully, Hank, Gary Park (mediocre announcer, charming fellow), or whomever.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I knew people who worked with him and he wasn’t very nice to them.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
so what do you really think about Scully?
don’t hold back. we can take it.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 4, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
You're right
Vin sucks and not just because he is affiliated with the Dodgers
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Sep 4, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re way off base on Vin; I was tortured by growing up in LA with that f-ing team and Vin was the only thing that made them tolerable. He doesn’t take his facts from the PR department – he spends a boatload of time on his own doing research, even using that evil invention called The Internet. Yes, like most people in broadcasting, he coasts on perceptions he has formed over the years, but in his defense, Guillen hasn’t played in the NL for quite some time. The 2010 Vin isn’t even half the announcer he was back in the 70s/80s, but 50% of Vin Scully is still better than almost anyone in the game.
Eliminate that pesky Dominatrix in one easy step. Step 1: Tell her you're a Cubs fan!
WHY IS JOSE GUILLEN HERE
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Because David DeJesus broke his hand.
/weeps
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
David DeJesus with a broken hand would have been more valuable than Guillen in the field.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I was considerably more afraid that Sabes would pay too much in players for him. Jeter made that a moot point.
But I agree with you that if he could “do something cool” to get him, we would be in much better shape now.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
i totally forgot about that.
/pulls up chair, weeps with you
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh man
DeJesus would be a dream in RF right now.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Apparently the deal was being finalized when he broke his hand
There was speculation that he was gonna go to the Giants after that game
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=mlb&id=3771
“The Giants were reportedly very close to finalizing a deal for David DeJesus before the outfielder went down with a season-ending thumb injury. Bummer for San Francisco, who is desperately looking to add some offensive punch. Perhaps now the team will increase their pursuit for Corey Hart, who they have been linked to often, or maybe even Jayson Werth.”
Well, none of that ever happened.
by nhlogan on Sep 4, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeez
Had forgotten about that
/starts weeping quietly
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Sep 4, 2010 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Because BORK
Clanky McVeteran MUST PLAY ALL GAMES because my strawhats insist on his ribeye-tacularness. I have it on good authority that money lies in the RBIs, and we got this fool for free, so how can we lose?
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Brian Sabean conceded the season
Acquiring Jose Guillen was monumental subtraction-by-addition. He indicated clearly that he doesn’t want to make the playoffs, and I sincerely believe that, come October, we will find that the Guillen acquisition was the most significant reason the Giants did not make the postseason.
My emotional reaction to Sabes and this game is really, really, really immature and unfortunate.
Boy howdy am I pissed.
Also, I the strike zone was a farce.
Proud member of the Adopt-a-Giant program (Aaron Rowand)
When Guillen argued that strike three, I half expected the ump to pull off his mask, revealing Tommy Lasorda. That ump called a strike on every borderline pitch that Billingsley threw, not to mention a few that weren’t close.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Sep 3, 2010 9:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Though I agree, I was surprised that the strike-three call to Guillen was a strike according to Gameday.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 3, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
It did look a little better on the replay
Though let the record show that NOT ONCE was a pitch that high called a strike when thrown by a Giant.
Proud member of the Adopt-a-Giant program (Aaron Rowand)
Thank game sucked, but this dog is adorable
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
Dodger Dog?
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Too cute to be a Dodger Dog
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
/waits patiently for someone to make a joke about Grant
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
+1 on both accounts
/auto-defenestrates
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Sep 3, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Awwwwwwwwwwwww
Thanks, Useful!
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea, but he’s got a HECK of an arm!
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Sep 3, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
One more, Street.
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by rxmeister on Sep 3, 2010 9:53 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I’m over it, I’m used to September heartbreak, I’m a Giants fan.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
My wife has an interesting explanation about benching Cody Ross:
“Bochy is worried he’s a secret agent from San Diego who wears a sweater around his neck and listens to Dave Matthews Band.”
Grant, I blame you for corrupting my marital conversations.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
yes, Guillen sucked
but Zito sucked worse.
a well-deserved loss for Barry.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Hey
At least Ray pitched well. I was convinced he was going to gascan it up out there tonight.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Ray looked great
stretch him out and give him the #2 spot in the rotation
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
we all knew timmy was improving, but zito seems to just be getting worse and worse. we cant have an auto loss every 5th day
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
is it bad that even when we win I still hate baseball because the Giants are such teases?
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
Well he is a drake, after all. He cando that.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
LOL
“Justin Bieber doesn’t like it.”
OMG, I’m laughing so hard right now (Padres game)
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Rox win
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
FUCK
IF WE HAD WON TONIGHT AND WON THE STUPID BROKEN BAT TRIPLE GAME WE WOULD ONLY BE 1 FUCKING GAME BACK RIGHT NOW
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by sadison bummedgarner on Sep 3, 2010 9:57 PM PDT reply actions
3 games back right now, 4 in loss though.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
If we’re 3 back now and we win while SD loses, don’t we gain a game making us 2 behind? Or am I just not thinking straight?
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Sep 3, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
what? we lose, they lose, nothing changes.
if Phil Cuzzi isn’t a Met’s fan, we’re 2 out. If Werth doesn’t hit that chalker in Florida, we’re 1 out of the WC.
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh hey, I totally skipped over the ‘stupid broken bat triple’ part and just read it as, “If we had won tonight we would only be 1 game back” in my blind rage.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Sep 3, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
That sounds as idiotic as when Hawk Harrelson says that Joe West hates the White Sox.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
i know cuzzi isn’t really a mets fan, he just made a bad call.
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s a bad umpire
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
yes, he’s a fan of general suck.
Choppin' broccoli
by SimpleJaquez on Sep 3, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought the ball in Florida for the Phillies was a clear foul.
I don’t believe it got chalk, which would have actually made it fair. I agree these two games if correctly called put the Giants one back in the WC. The sad thing is that the Giants were recently tied with the Phillies and way behind SD. Now the Phillies and SD are tied, I believe. The Giants just have not played that great – and it isn’t just the pitching. The hitting and fielding have cost runs, if not games.
I read this entire thing wrong
Nevermind me.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Funny, the Padres fans are probably saying the same thing about us
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
CUZZI
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Cuzzi for the tie
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Sep 3, 2010 9:59 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Also, that happens in baseball
You could also say that if Chipper Jones fields a groundball and Torre uses Kuo as his closer more we’re 6 games out.
My biggest problem is when the umpires cost a team a game, not the players.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
This
other teams have losses just like ours. Not everybody gets dicked over by umps that cost games
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
If wishes were fishes . . .
. . . no one would go hungry.
If wishes were horses, beggars could ride.
&c &c &c
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Vegans would still go hungry, no?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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Vegetarians of any stripe.
Which includes me. But I could once again go about on horseback.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I know a lot of people
who call themselves vegetarian, and yet eat fish.
we live in a strange world
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
I do not think that word means what they think it means.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 4, 2010 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions
One such . . .
. . . of my former acquaintance, used to say “fish are vegetables that grow in the ocean.”
An important distinction is that there are two broad classes of vegetarian, which we might call “health vegetarians” and “ethical vegetarians” (though many are both). Ethical vegetarians just don’t agree with needlessly killing things, while health vegetarians are concerned with, well, health. A health vegetarian might thus eschew meat, including poultry, but find fish “healthy” (despite heavy-metal issues).
Mostly, though, “vegetarian” fish eaters (and sometimes fowl eaters) are folk who like the tag for one reason or another—trendy, maybe—but don’t care to make any real sacrifice. (Though I at least find it no real sacrifice, but tastes vary.)
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Only if the wishes provided gas too!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Yeah, but if the Giants can’t pull out some more wins while the Padres are skidding, it’s not going to matter much.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
they’ve lost 8 straight, and we only picked up 3 games. WOW
we went 3-4, right? they lost on an off day for us
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
carpe diem doesn’t seem to mean anything to the giants, does it
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
/bochy asks if carpe diem is a grizzly veteran OF
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
“Well Carpy plays the game the right way…”
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
"Carpy is our guy, and he's due."
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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LOL Miggy
Washed the fuck up.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Sep 3, 2010 9:58 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
All sixteen to RF!
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Sep 3, 2010 10:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
ROCKIES!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm
So glad that the Giants are taking advantage of this skid the Padres are on.
Also, Guillen is ruining this team.
OT: Company of Heroes
Reinstalling my 2nd favorite RTS of all time and gonna try to get back into it. Multiplayer is probably gonna be hard as shit since only the hardcore ppl are left still playing this game, but God did I love this game 4 years ago.
Couldn’t get into it, but maybe I’m just not a RTS guy.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 3, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
RTS always stick with me the longest. I played Warcraft 3 for years on end, and was pretty addicted to CoH too.
I just need a change of pace, I’ve been playing too many shitty Diablo-clone RPGs lately.
I loooooved COH, but dammit, there were so many stupid patches to install if you wanted to play multiplayer.
.277/.399/.518 out of a shortstop?!
Keep on, keepin' on, Ryan Cavan
Who would have guessed...
We go 5-5 in the last 10 and pick up 3.5 in the standings. I’ll take it
i like your glass-half-full outlook. sadly, i am still full of rage to see that clearly
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
he was a fucking disaster
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
OH THE HUMANITY
UNF UNF UNF
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
OH OH OH OHHHHHHHHHH THE HUMANITY
I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz
by CB30 on Sep 3, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
HOT, MILKY HUMANITY, ALL UP ON MY FACE
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 3, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
seinfeld reference? from the other day, Kramer drops a drum of paint thinner on the freeway, sewing machine gets stuck under newmans mail truck, truck goes up in flames, newman screaming “oh the humanity!!!!”
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
nah
it’s from the newscast of the Hindenburg disaster
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
lol. i thought that originally came from seinfeld
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F54rqDh2mWA
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"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
We're all in a chasm here, right?
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
don't think so
we’re among youngins
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Ok, but I’m young and I knew that one. Thank you, grammar school history classes.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
you’re an old soul then
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Like Matt Cain??????
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
wow!!
i’ve sampled it in audio collages at least twice
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Plagiarist!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 3, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Well played
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
he IS a fucking disaster. an 18 million dollar one. he gets paid, what, 750k per start?
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Only 3 more years left?
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Hey! Only 2 more for Rowand.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I’m starting to wonder if he doesn’t get released/traded for magic beans in the off-season. It seems like just about everyone in the org has written him off cause nobody talks about him anymore.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
we should be so lucky
this would be a phenomenal outcome
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
I mean, I know it’s slightly wishful thinking, but I’m surprised by how much they’ve given up on him. Really. I’m shocked. I was expecting an extension at the beginning of this season.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
yep, it’s a kinda-sorta tacit acknowledgement that the Brass understands the concept of “sunk cost”
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
LOL, I wouldn’t really call finally recognizing a huge fuck-up 2 years after everyone else praise.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Renel on opening day 2011
“Leading off and playing center field, number 33, AAAARRONNN ROWWWWANNDDDD!!!!!”
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
this isn’t a funny joke
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
Wait, I've got a little to spare...
The 2-run HR to Barajas was inexcusable with Billingsley on deck. At least I thought it was, until the 4th inning.
Walking the first two batters in the 4th (including Blake after getting ahead 0-2), right after the Giants had managed to tie the game was stupefying.
But that 2-2 pitch to Billingsley was an abomination.
Those are three instances where Zito pitched like he had not cell one of brain in his head, or heart in his chest.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
by tobias on Sep 3, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
You are assuming, wrongly I suspect, that . . .
. . . those events flowed from a defective plan. I think it much more likely that he was simply physically unable to make the pitches he was trying to make.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
thing is
He retired Reed and Barajas easily, and then got 2 strikes on Billingsley and looked great doing it. The changeup was otherworldly. Guys were waaaaaaaaaaaay out front. He just made a TERRIBLE 2-2 pitch and got burned.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
August has seen the return of
LOLZITO
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Plus, he always has this incredulous look in his face after he throws a crappy pitch that seems to say, “Gee, this worked in 2002.”
Then he appears to sob gently on the mound.
I wonder if the Guile Theme goes well with this game?
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Just got back from the game.
Yes, we skipped out on the fireworks. We’re communists.
1. Buster Posey. Ohhhhhhhh-HO-HO-oooooooh Buster Posey!
2. Zito is a fucking moron. Throwing any strikes to Barajas in that situation was ridiculous. Two outs with the pitcher on deck? This is Ryan Jensen-level bullshittery. Of course, in a similar situation a couple of innings later, I tell my friends “He’s got to strike out Johnson here so he can walk Barajas and face the pitcher with two outs.” Johnson pops out, I then remind my friends, “Usually, this is good baseball. The pitcher is going to make an out maybe 90% of the time here. But when the Giants do it, it seems to blow up in their faces.” And… scene.
3. Just wanted to sprinkle some more hate on Jose Guillen. Girlfriend: “Why is he arguing?” Me: “Because he sucks.” And then, as he walked up the first baseline after the questionable K (which looked like the same wonky strike that got Buster earlier in the game) I said, “Why is he running?”
4. Before the game, I was watching the behavior in the dugout. THE FOLLOWING EVENTS ARE TRUE: Players were high-fiving, fist-bumping, getting hyped up just before first pitch. Guillen walks over to Burrell and, standing right next to Pat, can’t get his attention. He’s clearly talking to him, he proceeds to tap Pat on the shoulder. Thrice. Finally, Burrell acknowledges him and they share a bump. But Pat immediately returns to what he was doing: conversing, at length, intensely, with Aubrey Huff. I AM NOT KIDDING.
wow
- is brutal. and very telling.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
LOL formatting
Makes you look bad.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
fuck!
i typed NUMBER FOUR
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
You are correct though. Does this work:
#4
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
You are not a number!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 3, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I’m just going to go to bed.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I should too. I gots Cal football tomorrow.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
IRL LOL
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"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Sac is playing STANFORD pika, not cal
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
LOL PiKA
Cal is playing Davis.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
GO STANFORD
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
then GO SAC STATE, cal is playing… K, GO DAVIS!!!!!!! GO MIAMI OHIO, GO SAN JOSE STATE!!! GO UNDERDOGS
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
LOL Miami Ohio
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
consistently the worst football team in the country, WHY THE HECK DO YOU THINK I DRINK
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
but BIG BEN!!!!!!!!!!!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
REDUCED TO 4 GAMES!!! oh, and WE ARE GONNA RUN SHIT DOWN IN GAINSEVILLE, FUCK FLORIDA
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
i love the enthusiasm, but this will never happen
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
Just like CALs win against UC Davis
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Because you're in college?
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"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
in the middle of nowhere? with a horrific football team?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Yes, these are all adequate reasons
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"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
So prussian? you ask me why i drink? THESE are the reasons
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
But . . .
I never actually asked you why you drink. I just figured you did cause you’re in college, you’re a frat boy, and you root for the Giants.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not the prototypical frat boy though, i hope everyone knows that… and when you say “in college” i’m a 5th year, and i root for the giants? yea, but not as diehard as some of the people here, because i’m more of a casual fan, i dont look at stats as a means to an end alot, i just judge things based on what i see on the field… however, i do drink a good amount, not so much at home
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
these are just a few of the reasons i drink.
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
also, i absolutely love the taste of beer, not bud light, i'm saying
good beer
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I would be more meh
If it wasn’t against the Dodgers
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Might it be possible?
That baseball is complex and multiple factors work together to determine the outcome of a game?
Should we always try to identify the 1 single play or player that won or lost the game? This way of thinking drives me crazy sometimes.
For the record, I wouldn’t start Guillen in RF but I’m also not going to have tunnel vision where I look to blame everything on him every game.
There are many reasons we lost this game. We didn’t hit, pitch, or field well.
Are you saying we should be rational?! WEIRDO
by Natto on Sep 3, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Side note: I was trying to explain Chris Ray to someone,
and I literally said, “He’s the guy we acquired when we got Posey…”
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Apparently Zito is calling out the hitters in his post game interview..
He's not retired...THANK YOU!
They did suck, but it wasn’t like Billingsley was effectively wild or anything. Looked like he was close all night. Huff just missed two home runs and Sanchez missed a late-inning double. Gravity was not on the Giants’ side tonight. Meanwhile, giving up hits to the pitchers kinda means you suck as a pitcher.
Dude... i agree, Billingsley was awfully sick tonight
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I hate him...but he did whip us good.
If he lost, it would have been because of that shit they call their fielding.
Anyone want a Bruce Bochy bobblehead to use as target practice?
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Instead of the Bochy bobblehead, We could have gotten this
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Yeah, kind of a Jim Abbott look.
Choppin' broccoli
by SimpleJaquez on Sep 3, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
OMG
I really want that bobblehead. I wish I lived in the bay area, I’d definitely go to that game :(
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
That ticket is sold out now.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I wouldn't be able to go anyways
I wouldn’t be able to make the trip up there.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Bobbleheads
If you want a collectable one, try to find a Ryan Theriot without the Cubs logo. He had one of himself in fishing gear, with a Cubs logo on his hat. That was in May, and he was still a Cub, with no idea he would be traded. Some of us who attended the game got the promotional giveaways with no team logo on the hat, which was an error. If anyone wants one, (which I wonder who would, anyway), but if you are a collector, get the one that is without logo.
Well goot thing about today
I got paid and was able to buy a brand new Canon Rebel XS to begin my photography career. I’m excited :D
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Congrats!
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
agh good*
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
We knew what you meant ;)
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Man, Uribe really needs a couple, maybe 3-4 days off.
I wouldn’t mind starting Renteria for the next 2 games to be honest.
I don’t think he did this time around. He did the first time.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Oh, well by all means we should throw him right in, then.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
with occasional Fontenot
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
fontenot did have big at-bats on wed, we should play him. i like that guy
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Had the Giants lost this way to Arizona, I would be “eh”
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
because it’s the dodgers it sucks more. and oddly enough, because SD lost and we failed to pick up ground, again, it hurts more.
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Trust me it would hurt more if San Diego won.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
you’re right, it would, but they haven’t won in so long that i forget what it feels like to lose ground on an already very frustrating game.
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Who is Nate?
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
digs up ground around him so as to transport him back to locker room
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
i dont even think Guillen can dive, with that bad hammy
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Guillen = Pinch Hitter
Thought Bruce Bochy would see that by now…
Only if the Giants traded for Brett Cecil...
Sounds like I am lucky to have not been able to see the game live. It doesn’t sound tasbad on Gameday.
He had one tonight
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t remember this so I just checked the box score. It also says he only had one. Am I wrong?
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Broke up the no-hitter!
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
he hasn’t hit a legit hit in quite a while, let alone a HR or non-groundout RBI. IIRC he went 1-12 that series when we scored 38 runs vs the Reds.
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I was actually being serious in my question. I was wondering if I genuinely missed something. I’ve seen wrong box scores before.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
i was gonna say, you just fell into a deep chasm, lol
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL me
Deductive reasoning doesn’t lead me to the conclusion that 1+1 = 2
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"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
BUT HE'S A PROFESSIONAL HITTER!!!!!!!!
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Ugh, Grape Nuts
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
y'all need to stop badmouthin' cereal
I ain’t havin’ it
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Certain cereals.
Ugh, Apple Jacks
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 3, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I find your recent coment regarding Apple Jacks to be outrageous slander.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 3, 2010 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
THEN WE SHALL MEET ON THE FIELD OF HONOR
/takes off glove and deliberately slaps AndYourBirdCanSing with it
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 3, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
/licks Johnny Disaster’s glove
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 3, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
HAWT
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s been a while since it was cleaned.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 4, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Grape Nuts deserves it, dammit
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
The Grape Nuts comment was accurate but then people just started getting silly.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
Grape Nuts are good.
They and Cheerios pretty much exhaust the list of boxed breakfast cereals that are really good. If you think otherwise, you’re probably overdoing the milk: both need a careful balance of milk to cereal, judiciously timed (fill a large bown and they will be soggy by the time you get 2/3 of the way down). One starts with small amounts of cereal and just enough milk, then replenishes as often as wanted. In all things, there is an art.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Dammit owl
I don’t want to get scientific with my cereal. If cereal is good it will taste good with a gallon of milk over a cup of it!
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
You used numbers: science
And the words “careful balance”
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Not numbers . . .
. . . for the correct process—only a rough description of what happens to the artless. And “careful balance” is an integral part of most art forms. Some of us take our cereal-eating seriously, and disdain dilettanti.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Honey Bunches of Oats?
Or whatever it’s called.
In any case, Oatmeal > Cereal
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
So, think it’s in our best interest to go to a 4 man rotation? Zito is scheduled to pitch 2 more times in this make-or-break road trip
I think it’s in our best interest for the Padres to keep losing every single game. Then everything will be fine.
but if they lose every game the rest of the way we won’t win the division
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
/shift-A
Ugh that game.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 3, 2010 11:21 PM PDT reply actions
Sup?
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Ehh, the game sucked, but otherwise, I had a great day.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 3, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s good! I always hate when I have a good day and then there’s a night game loss. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Dammit
I really shouldn’t have put that last sentence there.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 3, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
TWSS
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 3, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
And I actually changed it to that from “It makes me feel unfulfilled.”
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Should’ve went with that one. I could’ve said, I have just the thing to help! Starts with a P
Pizza
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 3, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I am fond of pizza. And you still owe me a slice. But I already ate dinner.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. But now I just found out that the Grizzlies were eliminated from the playoff race so that fucking sucks.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 3, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn’t they lose like 6 in a row? Had a 3 game lead or something?
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
There was a terrible stretch of games in June and July, which really cut their lead down. They had a 16+ game lead at one point this season.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 3, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, at least it was AAA and not the MLB team.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Not to mention losing Posey and Bumgarner PROBABLY had something to do with it.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Eh, not really. They had good offense in Graham, Pill, Downs, Bowker, etc. Their starting rotation did go downhill for awhile, but the offense usually managed to bail them out of it. The bullpen did suck. There’s this one game in June that sticks out in my head where there were 2 outs in the inning, right after the Grizzlies had just taken the lead. Matos, Hinshaw, and another pitcher gave up 11 runs before getting the third out.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 3, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Hinshaw
And I disagree, when you lose that much sexy you’re bound to go downhill. Posey was the inspiration.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Yeah, no. Brock Bond’s pretty sexy with that OBP. And Tyler Graham had some pretty hot stats.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 3, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
In a way, I guess so. But it’s equally as painful for me since I live somewhat close to Fresno and I watched almost all the home games.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 3, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Well they are future Giants
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
That is true. Oh, well, I guess I’ll just enjoy the SJ Giants’ playoff race. Hopefully, they don’t continue their recent trend of sucking.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 3, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Aaaaand. Velez hit a walkoff grandslam for the Grizz. Holy crap what even.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 4, 2010 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
A Positive Spin
Maybe I’m still feeling great after having watched the resurgence of Lincecum and the Caining of Ubaldo Jimenez on Wednesday, but I’ve been able to stomach this loss pretty well. As bad as the Giants looked tonight and as good as Billingsley was, they were in the game the whole time. Also, if the Padres had played the last week like they played the whole rest of the season, we’d be writing off our chances at the division tonight.
That being said, the Padres will not continue to lose forever (please let me be wrong). The Giants have decent pitching outside of Zito right now and if someone beside Freddy Sanchez can get hot, maybe we can start taking advantage of the Pads struggles.
Here’s to a good Matt Cain tomorrow and a Giants win. Beat LA.
"Pablo Sandoval, coming around third like a runaway beer truck." - Kruk
OT: Mychael Urban is now following me on twitter.
I feel special. No, really.
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"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 11:25 PM PDT reply actions
And if you tweeted that, I’m sure he’d feel special too.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Urban <3 Zito.
Seriously. Defends him at all costs
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh, his tweets on Zito aren’t that bad. I mean, he usually doesn’t mention just Zito individually, and when he does it’s not “OMG ZITO!!!!”
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
no, he’s not crazy about him, just gives him waaaaay too much rope, esp for a pitcher who is paid $18mil, now that’s just crazy
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m trying not to scare him off. I’ve definitely angered him with my tweets before. he might think I’m being sarcastic.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Urbs.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
I used to think he was an idiot. But I actually kinda like him now. He’s not stupid, just somewhat misguided on certain aspects of baseball. But he is a good writer, so that’s a plus.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
I suppose. Then again I’ve accepted the fact that just about everybody in sports media is an idiot.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
He’s also demonstrated an ability to change his views at times. Unlike that hack Schulman.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean, I still think he was wrong about the “TIMMY IS ANGRY/whatever” stuff, but he’s not as bad as I used to give him crap for.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
When you say “change his views” I think of
“No no, I didn’t say that Sanchez and Neal could get Prince Fielder.”
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
I’m not arguing he’s perfect. I’m just willing to cut him a little slack because he’s shown growth. He’s not F.P. or Schulman or that idiot Jeff Fletcher.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
now F.P., there’s an idiot. I have to mute the game when he fills in for Kruk
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough, but I’ll always remember how much he acted like a douchebag when called out on that trade proposal, including hiding the transcript and everything.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
His “sources in Milwaukee” told him that it would take Neal and Sanchez to get Fielder. Then a few weeks later he was called out on it and denied and I believe they had the audio or transcripts removed from the public.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
i dont see why he’d go through all the trouble by denying it- after all, that’s why they are called trade RUMORS. or was there more to it?
I still see him as a “personality” who is trying to present himself as a reporter. He’s not a good reporter – he’s more like a guy who likes to talk about baseball, with an unfortunate tendency to present his opinions or wishes as reportable facts.
And, he’s wrong a lot.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I feel somewhat guilty – when the Giants tweeted the lineup my response was ‘LOL Guillen’. I was just channeling Lars for a cheap laugh… I didn’t realize the extent of what I had done until tonight’s unfortunate adventure in the outfield. I do apologize.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 3, 2010 11:32 PM PDT reply actions
JONNY D IS THE PROBLEM
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 3, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
From Giants Management
Dear Fans-
We are still in this. Buy your playoffs seats and season tickets for next year. Keep coming to games this year because we have a really great bunch of “gamers” on our team. Make sure you buy some Panda hats, some garlic fries and beer. We also have Bochy and Sabean so you know we are all about winning. Please, please keep coming to games, we can’t win if you don’t pay!!
PS: Don’t forget your Timmy wigs. We need the $ for Jose Guillen’s multi-year extension.
by TimLaser and MattyC on Sep 3, 2010 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
oh god, if they re-sign him, i will go ape-shit and ditch my hometown team for good
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sorry, guys, this is my fault.
I saw Wil Wheaton at PAX today, and I told him how badly the Dodgers were going to get stomped tonight. He must have brought down Zito with nerd voodoo.
(It’s also possible Barry Zito just isn’t very good.)
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 3, 2010 11:55 PM PDT reply actions
I always plan things out badly, so I didn’t get to see all that much cool shit – I mainly just went to see the Protomen play (and, apparently, to be told to suck it by Wesley Crusher). But there was some cool shit. Duke Nukem Forever is a real game. It exists. My friend played it. What the fuck.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 4, 2010 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
How many years now?
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Renteria and Ross will play tomorrow
Yes or no?
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Yes on Ross, Yes on Rent (only b/c Lilly is a LH, otherwise it would be Font)
I’d be shocked if Guillen starts tomorrow, but then again, I’ve been shocked before.
by giant4life83 on Sep 3, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Baggs thinks that Rents and Rowand will start tomorrow cause of the lefty matchup.
Blech.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 4, 2010 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Well there goes my theory on Rowand.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 4, 2010 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Well Baggs has been wrong before but I think Andres could use a day anyway. I was hoping for Ross though.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 4, 2010 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather Nate start over Ishi
They’re both bad hitters, but a Nate/Huff defense is better than a Ishi/Huff defense
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
I just saw a crazy stat on SportsNet Central-
Last 4 games, 8 RBIs total:
Posey – 5
Torres – 1
Fontenot – 1
Bumgarner – 1
Can't claim
Thus, Posey RBI>
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
i dont think bengie even has 10 ribbies for Texas yet, lol
by giant4life83 on Sep 4, 2010 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably owed money, at that point.
I think he should go back to the 4 slot. Huff obviously hit best with Posey behind him, since he offered Huff a ton of protection and better pitches to hit. Since Posey came out of the 4 hole, Huff has slumped. Coincidence? perhaps.
by giant4life83 on Sep 4, 2010 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I think my ideal lineup would have him in the 3 spot followed by The Steamy Couple
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Sep 4, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
aww poor Natto
you have a pen tablet i assume? my sister has a Bamboo Fun (I think?)
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
Nate woulda had that.
by MonochromeGarden on Sep 4, 2010 2:28 AM PDT up reply actions
You’re wearing too much eyeliner, Natto. Moderation is key.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 4, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
That being said, I pretty have the same expression during these games.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 4, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions
So I went to a party in the middle of this game
Seems like a good decision in hindsight
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
I should have shot myself in the foot before the game. Hindsight is 20/20
by giant4life83 on Sep 4, 2010 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
You still could've gotten to that ball before Guillen
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
This says nothing about the party though, compared to the game.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Hookers but no blow?
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
UoP needs moar POB
but yeah it would’ve been more fun if I was more social
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
?
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
TV Show
Michael C. Hall married the woman who plays his sister in the show.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
/chasm’d
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
You pushed the key next to the letter M?
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
F
"For all you first-basemen who played first your whole life, that's where Buster plays on his OFF days" - Kuiper
I’m glad that I went to First Friday instead of watching that. Barry Zito suck is very difficult to clean out of one’s clothes.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
Corey Hart says the Home Run Derby is not to blame for his power outage in the second half.
The outfielder hit 21 homers before the All-Star break but so far as just two in the second half. He also has just one hit over his last 27 at-bats. “I am streaky. That’s no secret. In the end, my years are going to be what they are: Around .260, .270, 20 to 25 home runs, 80 RBI. And the Brewers know that.”
Thank God Brian Sabean knew that and didn’t buy into the hype.
Guillen
I freakin hate that bum pos. I was furious when the Giants picked him up, and so far he’s been exactly what I expected. But then again, did anyone really think that guillen would be the piece we needed to make a deep playoff run? Worst move of the year hands down.
Sabean you cheap s.o.b.; stop bargain shopping for over the hill .260 hitters with 20HR ceilings and wretched defense, and shell out some cheddar for someone who is actually good.
Strat-O-Matic Tells All
I’ve been playing in a keeper Strat-O-Matic league for 20 years, and I’ve learned some hard lessons about the composition of a roster, especially in terms of defensive alignment. For those of you who don’t play SOM, fielding is rated from 1 to 5 (1 being gold glove caliber and 5 being a player who either doesn’t play the position or absolutely shouldn’t be – think Prince Fielder as a Shortstop). In the game, pitchers’ cards have something called X chances, which are essentially fielder dependent outcomes. If you get a Fly Ball RF X, a 1 or a 2 will generally make the play, but it will either be a single or double with the lesser fielders. It’s a simple, but fairly realistic system, and it’s pretty rare that a team with a majority of fielders in the 3-5 range makes the post-season in our league. I only have last year’s fielding ratings, but you might get an idea why the Giants pitchers have struggled so much this year (also, arms are rated from -5 (Clemente-esque) to a +4 (Juan Pierre-esque):
Huff – 1B – 4; OF – not rated but would be a 4
Ishikawa – 1B – 2
Franchez – 2B – 2
Fontenot – 2B – 3, SS-3, 3B – 3
Renteria – SS – 4
Uribe – SS – 3, 3B – 3
Panda – 3B – 3 (my bet is that he drops to a “4” in next year’s set)
Torres – OF – 2 +0 arm (I believe he’ll definitely be a 1 in next year’s game)
Burrell – RF – 5 +2 arm
Guillen – OF – 5 -2 arm (he used to have the coveted -5 arm, but as you can see, he’s lost a ton of accuracy since his halcyon days)
Ross – OF – 2 -1 arm
Posey – incomplete but would guess 2 with a -3 arm
Whiteside – 3 +0
Bengie (for old time’s sake) – C – 2 +0 arm – my guess is he’ll be a 3/4 with a +2 arm in next year’s game
So, when Burrell and Guillen are both starting at the corners, the Giants are choosing to play two 5s, and in the games they’ve played out there, I’ve seen numerous "X’ chances fall as hits. Additionally, the Giants don’t have a single “1” rated player, although I do believe Torres is right on the border of being a 1/2; the only other “2” players are Sanchez and Ishikawa, a backup who hasn’t played there in quite some time. A team that is composed of so many weak fielders will really begin to hurt pitchers who put the ball in play more often than strikeout-oriented ones, and you see what happened to Zito when he gave Billingsley the opportunity to hit a ball to the outfield – a FBRFX to Guillen that fell in as a hit.
Eliminate that pesky Dominatrix in one easy step. Step 1: Tell her you're a Cubs fan!
But does it have ratings for gritty veteran September gamerness?
Also, are you a Cubs fan? If so, please don’t further jinx the Giants ; 0
I only root for franchises that are mired in miserable, decades/century long futility. I tried to spend time at Bleed Cubbie Blue, but most of them have no sense of humor. Since I am now living in the Bay Area married to a hardcore Giants fan and have always loved them myself, I’m spreading my particular brand of misery over here now.
Eliminate that pesky Dominatrix in one easy step. Step 1: Tell her you're a Cubs fan!
The more misery the merrier!!
It’s hard to believe that becoming a Giants’ fan will improve the level of misery in your life, but there are always the Indians and Cubs…
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Sep 4, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
What about Nate? Nate LF is way better then Guillen or Ross LF.
I’m just guessing but ima say Nate is 3 -2
Sorry – totally zoned on the late great Nate; he was a “2” with a -3 arm last year, which I think is pretty accurate.
Eliminate that pesky Dominatrix in one easy step. Step 1: Tell her you're a Cubs fan!
Nat
Fuck this game, only thing I wanna say is Torres and Huff NEED o start hitting again or its going to be a rough September.
Ran into a total bitch in MLB The Show right now. If any of you run into chopping_cheddar don't bother.
He’s one of the top players but he’s awful and lag switches when he gets behind. I was dominating him the whole game Pooholes with 2 homers and Holliday was 4/4. Anyways he’ll just start to make the game laggy when you pitch making it unplayable, pretty pathetic.
FFFFFFFF
boomskie
Now we see Luebke gets another start Wed. vs. #Dodgers as LeBlanc sits. That gives Latos start vs. LA & #sfgiants. Smart. So smart. #padres
Cain vs Garland
Sanchez vs Richard
Bumgarner vs Latos
Lincecum vs LeBlanc
Is there a rule that Kevin Correia can’t pitch against the Giants?
They could be Giants...but not really.
That might not be a bad thing. Correia wold probably have a line like this: 9 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 11 SO
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Huff needs the get his shit together. And Posey needs to get his #4 spot in the lineup back, though since he has 5 RBIs in that slot, Bork won’t move him. The way Burrell is hitting in the 4 slot is embarassing. He is nowhere near a cleanup hitter anymore. Drop him back, or sit him for a bit. Fuck, your team is falling apart it seems, everyone is slumping, everyone is burned out, crap. This sucks
One good argument
Dude, I totally agree with you, but here’s what Bocceball would say: “Well, Dodger Stadium has a lot of room out there and we came in knowing some of these games might be decided on a close margin. Guillen’s got a pretty strong arm out there and if we can get a guy at the plate on a close play at home that might win us a game.” I’ve got 99 problems and a Bochy is definitely one. A fucking big one.
Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you
by milesntrane on Sep 4, 2010 2:03 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
"And I'll ignore the fact that Nate also has a cannon, plus has some wheels in the outfield."
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
BusterfuckingP is right
You know, this potential loss wouldn’t be as painful if we actually had a starting right fielder that could run. #SCHIERHOLTZANDROSSWUT?
http://twitter.com/BusterfuckingP/status/22948164867
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
God damn
If we squander another bed shitting by the Pads, we really deserve our penultimate place in the standings.
Won’t be watching tonight, but god knows I’m going to get the fucking texts from Yahoo and swear a lot at the bar.
Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.
I just want one game where we are on the top of a blow-out
Why can’t Haegar pitch again?
Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.
That would clinch it
And I would possibly consider drinking Cabo Wabo.
Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.
That turd is back?
Dude’s like a bad horror movie villain
Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.
it hit the bat as he ducked out of the way
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
by j14 on Sep 4, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
you duck to save your head, and hits your bat.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
Because regression is a bitch.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
by DrDC on Sep 4, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
bq.That’s all I ask. Why is Guillen a better option to start over Jose Guillen?bq.
Ozzie?
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
LOL HIT THE BAT
LOL ECKSTEIN
Jesus dude, throw strikes (the normal kind).
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
STFD
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Rowand CF, Sanchez 2B, Huff 1B, Posey C, Guillen RF, Ross LF, Uribe 3B, Renteria SS, Cain P.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 4, 2010 3:50 PM PDT reply actions
at least, Rowand has good numbers against Lilly.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 4, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
You know what’s more important than experience? Not being awful.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
by DrDC on Sep 4, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
But Rowand hit that home run that one time
He’s due!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Darren Ford
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 4, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Aaron Rowand can’t hit either. I’d rather see Ford.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 4, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Try this:
Ross in CF, Huff in LF, Ishikawa at 1B. That replaces Rowand’s bat with Ishikawa’s—not a vast improvement, but an improvement.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
As much as I dislike Rowand
I’m pretty sure he’s a better bet against lefties than Ishikawa.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Cody Ross
Freddy Sanchez
Edgar Renteria
Rickey Henderson
Antoan Richardson
Lou Brock
Willie Mays
Willie Mays Hayes
Take your pick.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
by groug on Sep 4, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also, really sub .300 lead off hitter?
Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.
At least if he throws his bat into the stands it has a chance of hitting Bieber or Milano
Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.
Yeah but if he hit Milano
Zito has one less slut to sleep with
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
barf
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
by j14 on Sep 4, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
another season lost
through the grinders of time
by iloveddickdietz on Sep 4, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel horrible ...
I honestly didn’t know that Bochy had a substance abuse problem.
/intervention?
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
This lineup is proof Bruce Bochy hates Matt Cain.
Rowand, Guillen AND Renteria?
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
last time Rowand got a hit
was on August 13
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 4, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
This . . .
. . . is the mail-it-in lineup. Its only virtue is that it avoids a forfeit, which happens if the manager does not field 9 warm bodies.
It is impossible at less than essay length to analyze all the things wrong here.
Cato the Elder used to end every speech he made in the Roman Senate, no matter the topic, with the motto Carthago delenda est (Carthage must be destroyed). I’m beginning to feel I should end every post, on any subject, with Sabean delenda est.
(Which would by corollary action solve the Bochy problem.)
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
i think we will win tonight, the shake-up lineup and off-days for Burrell, Torres and Sandoval not really like we could do better here
This is all kinds of shitty.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Sep 4, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Come on Fowler
You hit like 50 triples against us that one time. How about one now?
Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.
I can't watch that game
Chris Rose and Mark Grace?? YUCK!
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Sadly, Grace>Karros/Millar
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Game is on mute, music is on
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
by j14 on Sep 4, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah that's how all you guys are watching it
Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.
I’ve got the game on mute and I’m doing my Spanish homework.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 4, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
You just reminded me I have MicroEcon HW to do tonight
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
Haha. You’re welcome?
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 4, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Hah. Well, I just remembered I’ve got Comp Sci homework and I need to catch up on reading for Cuisine History. Oy. I could do half of it tonight and half of it before I go to the Grizz game tomorrow.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 4, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
CarGo!
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
LOL REGRESSION
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
There's nobody in Petco at all
I like it.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Rowand cf
F Sanchez 2b
Huff 1b
Posey c
Guillen rf
Ross lf
Uribe 3b
Renteria ss
Cain p
and there she wept…
i dont think this is so bad. the lineup has been so poor in scoring lately, that maybe it will work out to shake things up. But still, i weep…
I hope, but we’re a .548 team as of this AM. 14 of 27 will just keep us at average and will let us hit 88 games….
well we play 6 vs MIL and CHI, so that’s 5 wins right there. so that leaves winning 9 of 21, which i think will end up being 13 or 14 of 21, provided we can take SD 4-3 or 5-2 in the remaining games. Remember, SD is now obviously very weak. They are burned out and regressing to their true level.
Don't assume anything
Or you get swept by the Astros or the D-Backs.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Wow just about to hop on the freeway to head to Chavez Revine
And I see this. Not nearly as pumped as I should be.
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
LOLINEUP
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
keeping Burrell, Torres and Sandoval out of the lineup, how would you do it? you have a better version?
By not keeping them out of the lineup.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
there’s two sides here. If you have to rest Sandoval, Burrell and torres, then this really is the best we can do. If they don’t need to be rested, then it’s a diff story. and we just had an off-day thurs. Last night should have been the rest day for those guys, that way it’s two days off.
Agree
And Resting both our LF and CF on the same day is also not good.
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
Torres and Sandoval struggle against Lefties, so that’s probably why today was a better “day off” day for them. Burrell is just struggling and is old so he gets the day game after a night game day off.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 4, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
botchy is the manager, he’s supposed to plan ahead and like, you know, MANAGE things. And today’s game is at 7 isn’t it?
I agree
I don’t think we can afford to give those guys a day off, especially all at once, but that’s probably the reason. Also, der. night game after a night game after a day off and short flight shouldn’t require extra rest.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 4, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
This is correct
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
by j14 on Sep 4, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't we have hella days off this month?
/can’t believe he said hella
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Whiteside instead of Posey
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 4, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Against a lefty...
2B Sanchez
SS Renteria
1B Huff
C Posey
LF Guillen
3B Uribe
CF Ross
RF Schierholtz
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
by j14 on Sep 4, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
This is the best bench we’ve had in months.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
i agree. to be able to rest so many people, and still put out a competitive lineup, is awesome.
Cody, this is your time to shine!!!
it’s still competitive. other than Rowand leading off, i have no problem with the rest of it. It’s not like Guillen can’t hit- it’s just the fielding that is suspect. I think tomorrow Guillen will rest and Ross will play right.
It’s the shittiest lineup I’ve seen in months tbh.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Sep 4, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
im just trying to put some kind of positive spin on this. yes, its a shitty lineup, i dont know why bork cedes games before they start, why he waves the white flag on the 5th inning when we’re down by 2, why he continues to start an injured RF when we have a RF who is a better hitter and much better defender. I don’t know why he is such an fucking idiot.
I guess I'll be watching Oregon St-TCU tonight.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Im glad theres a Fresno St game on tonight
Kevin Mitchell has a black belt in keeping it real.
by kbsofaraway08 on Sep 4, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I might watch that.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 4, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
If you wanted to see San Jose St-Alabama in CA, you have to pay $34.95.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I know, right? I’m not particularly interested, but I wanted to watch at least part of it.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
Look guys, I know you’re down about tonight’s lineup, but remember that we hit lefties well, and besides, I have a really good feeling about this. The Giants aren’t about to let another chance to gain on SD pass them up
Kevin Mitchell has a black belt in keeping it real.
by kbsofaraway08 on Sep 4, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Large picture is large
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
sorry bout that large pic, no subj line, Why the hell am I posting on a post game thread from last night……I need to get out of the house
Kevin Mitchell has a black belt in keeping it real.
by kbsofaraway08 on Sep 4, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Some career numbers vs. Lilly
Guillen 3 for 17
Huff 3 for 25
Renteria 4 for 17
Ross 2 for 6
Rowand 7 for 19
Sanchez 8 for 23
Uribe 4 for 13
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
as a team, I remember CSN saying he’s 1-5 or something lifetime against us. not 100% on that, though
The Dodgers game notes has him as 3-1 but a high ERA vs. the Giants.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
5 career starts vs SF
W/L 3-1
IP 31.2
H 37
R 18
ER 18
HR 5
BB 10
K 18
ERA 5.12
WHIP 1.48
BAA .285
They could be Giants...but not really.
i guess it was someone else they were talking about. or maybe i just got it completely wrong. this was something i thought they said a few days ago. i still have a good feeling for tonight, though
Wow! Five solo HR's already in the PHI/MIL game
MIL leads 3-2, top 3rd.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
The Rockies are finally doing right by the Giants for a change.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Although...
/looks at schedule
/sees Giants play @Rockies on final weekend of the season
/facepalms
They could be Giants...but not really.
I'm just thinking that Jose Guillen is at the point now
Where it’s gonna really take something large for him to be able to redeem himself with the fans here. Just thinking out loud.
extrabaggs
Giants are meeting right now. Taiwan-related. Very good chance this 2011 opener is going to happen, I hear.
They could be Giants...but not really.
/looks out the window for jct dancing in the street
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 4, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
i really wish they wouldn’t do it. It’ll fuck up the start of the season for them. The teams that played in Japan during ST said it really screwed stuff up for them.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
fwiw
extrabaggs
Taiwan still not settled. More negotiations needed.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Before, the issue was whether the staff would be compensated for the trip. I hope that the team finds another reason to say no.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I go to Asia now and then and I’m really messed up for a week or two coming back. Maybe they have better drugs, but it looks like a plan to scuttle April to me.
OT: Scott Pilgrim vs. the World
Just for the lulz.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I like the Metric song from that movie soundtrack
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
Oh
LOL Baggs
extrabaggs
Meeting wasn’t Taiwan related after all. But news on that is expected soon.
Uh-oh. Have the DBacks already voted on this?
They could be Giants...but not really.
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