The end-of-the-season rotation
From Extra Baggs:
Many Giants fans have strong notions about what the coaching staff should do with those pieces, namely the starting pitchers. For now, the Giants simply plan to stay on turn, and give everyone an extra day of rest after Monday’s day off.That would mean Jonathan Sanchez, Madison Bumgarner and Tim Lincecum against the Arizona Diamondbacks (vs. Rodrigo Lopez, Ian Kennedy and Barry Enright).
And Barry Zito, Matt Cain and Sanchez against the Padres (vs. Clayton Richard, Tim Stauffer and Mat Latos).
That doesn’t sit well with folks who’d rather see Lincecum, their ace, face the Padres – especially over Zito, whom they don’t trust in a big game.
I was actually planning on posting about this today, so I was bummed when I saw that Andrew Baggarly had gotten there first. Then I read all of the different permutations and the Mobius strips of reasoning that went along with each one, and I wasn’t bummed anymore. I’m glad I didn’t have to write all that.
So here are Baggs’s three scenarios, dumbed down for morons like me. Wait, morons like I. Wait...
Scenario #1 – As-isTuesday vs. Arizona – Jonathan Sanchez
Wednesday vs. Arizona – Madison Bumgarner
Thursday vs. Arizona – Tim Lincecum
Friday vs. San Diego – Barry Zito
Saturday vs. San Diego – Matt Cain!
Sunday vs. San Diego – Jonathan SanchezStarter for a possible tie-breaker against San Diego or Atlanta on Monday– Tim Lincecum on short rest, or Madison Bumgarner
Scenario #2 – We’d also like some of that $126M back, pleaseTuesday vs. Arizona – Sanchez
Wednesday vs. Arizona – Bumgarner
Thursday vs. Arizona – Zito
Friday vs. San Diego – Lincecum
Saturday vs. San Diego – Cain
Sunday vs. San Diego – SanchezStarter for a possible tie-breaker against San Diego or Atlanta – Zito on short rest for amusement purposes, or Madison Bumgarner
Scenario #3 – Rejiggerin’ for the one-game playoff or Game 1Tuesday vs. Arizona – Sanchez
Wednesday vs. Arizona – Lincecum (regular rest because of the off day)
Thursday vs. Arizona – Bumgarner
Friday vs. San Diego – Zito
Saturday vs. San Diego – Cain
Sunday vs. San Diego – SanchezStarter for a possible tie-breaker against San Diego or Atlanta - Lincecum
Ohhhh. I get it now. By moving Lincecum up a day, you have everyone on their regular rest, but you’re better positioned to have Lincecum start the one-game playoff or the first game of a potential playoff series. Baggarly does point out that Barry Zito would have to pitch against the Padres in this last scenario, which is why a lot of folks want to switch around the rotation in the first place. A quick review of that concern:
Barry Zito is going to have to pitch in an important game, Padres or no. That’s the real problem. And he hasn’t been absolutely dreadful his last two starts – more unlucky than awful, really.
I have issues with setting a rotation with the express goal of shutting down the Padres. The Padres do that very well on their own. And by moving Zito up to face the Diamondbacks, you’re setting him up to pitch against a team with a bunch of hitters who can take a walk and hit for power.
Put me down for scenario four, actually:
Scenario #4 – You know it’s what you really wantTuesday vs. Arizona – Tim Lincecum
Wednesday vs. Arizona – Matt Cain
Thursday vs. Arizona – Matt Cain
Friday vs. San Diego – Tim Lincecum
Saturday vs. San Diego – Matt Cain
Sunday vs. San Diego – Matt CainStarter for a possible tie-breaker against San Diego or Atlanta – Tim Lincecum, with Matt Cain available for extra innings when the Giants don’t score
Quite nice. Seriously, though, give me the Baggscenario, #3. All of the starters would pitch just as often, with Sanchez the only one who goes twice, but Lincecum would be available for whatever important game might come after October 3rd.
Also, I think the Giants should go ahead and win a lot of games in the next week, no matter what the rotation is. They shouldn’t feel awkward about it. That would be swell.
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I like it as is
Downside is that you lose the chance to pitch Timmy on 3 days rest on Sunday, but that is fantasy anyway.
Upside is that Timmy (the out of shape one) could probably use one (but not two) extra days rest. Other upside is that this rotation has been working in a satisfactory manner so I am not keen on fucking with it.
I'm confused.
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Yep. Leave the part that works alone and worry about scoring runs.
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agreed
granted it was 7 years ago, but Zito did pitch in the playoffs.
TRUST IN ZEETS
I concur
Time for stressful starts. What we do not need is… Zito on short rest. 3 is intriguing but I would rather keep all starters in rhythm.
Putting Zito in a position to fail makes Timmy’s start mean too much. I don’t like the undue pressure either way.
We need to win 4 of last 6 period and our chances are good, even 3 vs Zona and 1 Vs SD. We have 1 game up on ATL, They would have to go 5 and 6 to tie and 6 of 6 to get WC outright.
It's better to be lucky than good.
by Myemail21479 on Sep 27, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but...
…do you get ALDS Barry or ALCS Barry?
Hopefully we get ALDS Barry in the NLCS.
Buster Posey ain't havin it... He aint.
by Caine Black Knife on Sep 27, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
#3
But I could hardly be upset about any of them. What a fantastic problem to have.
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Oh man I’m nervous for this week.
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by theghostofjasonellison on Sep 27, 2010 1:43 PM PDT reply actions
Seriously.
I can’t remember the last time I’ve had baseball-on-the-brain as much as I have this past week.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Meeeee tooooo
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same
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 27, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
#3 #3 #3 #3 #3#3 #3 #3 #3 #3
- #3 #3 #3 #3#3 #3 #3 #3 #3 #3 #3 #3 #3 #3#3 #3 #3 #3 #3 #3 #3 #3 #3 #3#3 #3 #3 #3 #3
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by sadison bummedgarner on Sep 27, 2010 1:43 PM PDT reply actions
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by sadison bummedgarner on Sep 27, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Keep the rotation as is.
Zito pitches better at home. Also, the Padres “bloop and infield single” offense is as likely to be effective against anyone the Giants throw out there.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 27, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions
Leave The Damn Rotation As Is!
Messing around with the pitching rotation at the very end of the regular season is how manager Gene Mauch of the Philadelpha Phillies blew the National League pennant in in 1964.
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by They Might Be Midgets on Sep 27, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions
#3 seems like the right choice to me
It doesn’t really throw anything off and it sets us up for bonus baseball nicely.
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Swap them.
The games against SD are more meaningful. Let Zito pitch against AZ.
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AZ has kicked Zito’s ass this season, haven’t they? Apparently their brand of baseball is good against Zito’s brand. No reason to move him there. Take the AZ win.
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Timmy got touched up at Chase field too. TBH I don’t really care either way. I was just picking an option.
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touched up? he gave up 1 run and 2 hits IIRC into the 7th, then gave up 2 runs.
remember, Chase Field with the roof open is like 1997 Coors.
by giant4life83 on Sep 27, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
5IP, 5ER, 5H,5BB, 6SO, 1HR
Don’t make me post my sad face from that game again.
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#1 As Is
Don’t fuck with what’s working. Also, I’m actually more scared of Arizona’s line up than San Diegos.
- makes sense.
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i meant 3
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Agree. 3.
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by The Enchanter on Sep 27, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
#2...
Timmy should pitch first game of the SD series…assuming Giants are tied or 1 game ahead…game 1 is huge…I would have no problem with Madison pitching the playoff game.
THIS
I love the #2 scenario best.
Zito anywhere in the Padres series would be bad for my health.
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Zito anywhere in the Padres any series would be bad for my health.
by keyser_sozey on Sep 27, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree. But I also agree with nostockjustbonds on that we should wait until after tomorrow’s game to decide.
I'm in this line
Yay, 3 gets us set up nicely for Game 1 of the NLDS or a one-game playoff! Too bad it won’t matter if Zito screws up against SD. Gotta win the games you know are going to happen before you start thinking about games that might happen, and I’d rather lose to Arizona than lose to SD. Plus, yeah, Arizona’s lineup is more dangerous, so that’s exactly why we should have Zito and not Timmy face them; Timmy could get knocked around by AZ, but probably won’t be the Pads, and Zito could get knocked around by the Pads. Rather hedge my bets and make sure we take a game than risk losing two by trying to take two.
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MadBum pitching the playoff game
I hope to see MadBum in important games down the stretch and in the playoffs, but I fear it’s too much to ask him to start a deciding game.
But maybe I’m still bitter about Salomon Torres.
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by achiappanza on Sep 27, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
THAT FUCKING GUY IS GOING TO BE THE DEATH OF ME
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
HE STOLE MY BABY!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Sep 27, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
THE DINGOS ATE MY BABY!
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
GUILLEN IS A DINGO!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Sep 27, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
HE TURNED ME INTO A NEWT!
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A NEWT?
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by giantsfansince1981 on Sep 27, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
LISTEN I VOTED FOR #4 TOO...
… BUT I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT THE START OF MY BITCHING ABOUT HIM!
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Sep 27, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Which of these things is not like the others?
Usain Bolt
The Flash
Jose Guillen legging out a triple
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The Flash is white
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 27, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Right? I mean he’s not really red.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 27, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Usain Bolt is the correct answer
because the other two are fictional.
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by EliminateMe on Sep 27, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
An extra day of rest really helps this time of year. I have confidence that the pitchers are going to SHOW UP in the last six games. Now… the hitting… it’d be nice if they came along.
I've got 99 problems and the Boch is one
I agree with this
Keep the rotation as it is, get an extra day of rest for Lincecum, and hope Zito and the offense does enough to win.
by scotterduder on Sep 27, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
#3
But really, win the games against Arizona first. Egg counting and chickens hatching and all that.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
#1
Stick with what got us here.
There will be no playoff.
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Can I still complain about Guillen though?
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#3
It really seems like the best option overall to set up for a playoff bid, although I wouldn’t mind going as-is since the rotation is pretty kick-ass, and our relievers aren’t half-bad either.
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I imagine, when it comes down to it, we all are. We just need something to do for the next… OH GOD 29 HOURS
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by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Alcohol will help.
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Oh yeah. Gonna try to get my lips on some Pliny the Younger after work today.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
First time I read this, I didn’t realize you meant the beer.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Er, yes...
…beer…
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by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
The world record is 6:03 straight (according to google, but who the hell knows). I’m assuming there’s a standard speed that must be maintained. If you can keep it going until tomorrow’s game, you’re record may be safer than Joe DiMaggio’s.
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Natto is a record!
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NO U
dammit
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The wheels are falling off my cart!
I have spent a couple of hours running through every permutation and combination of Giants wins and Padres losses trying to figure out when I might be able to breathe again.
Whenever me and my Padres-fan-friend have hung out the past month, there’s always this uncomfortable air of “is he going to kill me today?” going on. And we’re going to all 3 Pads games together.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m in this line and also in the “Get four runs for Zito” line the day he pitches (there’s a lot of me to go around).
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Yes, but I think bgunn was referring to Zeets and his ridonkeylous record with four or more runs of support.
Oddly, it involved a 109…
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I’m more or less okay with whatever reasonably permutation ends up happening.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugh, that y.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Guillen inserted that y into your otherwise lovely sentence.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Sep 27, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Guillen inserted that [noun] into your otherwise lovely [noun].
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by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
#2
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 27, 2010 1:59 PM PDT reply actions
#2 by a longshot
I want my 3 best pitchers in the most important series. Setting up for a game that may or may not happen is not a good way to approach it IMO.
Play to win…go all in for the SD series
We just traded who for who?!
I just missed out on a whole page of econometrics notes because...
I spent a good 5 minutes thinking about it and ultimately voted for #2.
You take a lot more notes than I do.
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For what it's worth
I think Tim vs. Arizona (aggressive hitters that chase pitches and strike out a lot) and Zeets vs. San Diego (not much power) is the right way to play the matchups. Obviously Timmy is the better pitcher who you want in the bigger game, but after seeing him get shellacked at home against the Pads in mid-August (SSS I know, but it still stings in my memory), I’m not sure it’s worth reworking the rotation to change the current aligned matchups.
Not only SSS
Timmy not the same pitcher as he was in August
August: 0-5; 7.82 ERA; 1.816 WHIP; 2.08 SO/BB; 311 BAA; .383 OBP Against; .519 SLG Against;
.373 BABIP Against
September: 4-1, 2.08 ERA; 0.837 WHIP; 10.25 SO/BB; .194 BBA; .224 OBPA; .295 SLBA;
.267 BABIP Against
Wait, his SO:BB ratio is 10.25? Really? Um, that’s just wow.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Sep 27, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Did I say wow already? I’ll just repeat – wow. And by wow, I mean that’s fucking unbelievable. I love this September Timmy.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Sep 27, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Those are both small samples and neither one is reliably predictive. Still, that’s a pretty damn good month of September right there.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
#1
The one advantage we have right now is the extra day of rest, which seems crucial to me these last six days.
Meanwhile we’ve got Sanchez v. Rodrigo Lopez in game one. I got to think we’re gonna score off a guy with a 1.41 WHIP and 5.05 ERA. And Dirty’s been terrific since August
Game two: Madbum v. Ian Kennedy. Kennedy’s good, but his weakness is he’s a little dinger-prone. Toughest game of the series
Game three: Enright v. Timmeh. Enright’s been rocked 3 of his last 4 starts, and he’s going against Timmy.
Sweep, i think.
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The one advantage we have right now is the extra day of rest, which seems crucial to me these last six days.
As much as I hate half-games, I think having these three Mondays off have been a very good thing for us. The extra days don’t seem to be throwing the kids off, but they can’t help but help the older/tougher guys like Uribe and Posey. Not to mention three games that Torres didn’t have to miss while he was out.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Also more games in row for SD's bullpen to work
They were pretty taxed with the Reds series (especially yesterday)…they would love to have a day off today…hopefully the Cubs will be their annoying self…
Yah, they got screwed. Their final three off days were 8/23, 9/2, and 9/20.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
his weakness is he’s a little dinger-prone
Good thing to know we’re not the only ones bothered by the Rockies mascot.
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#3
But I’d also be fine with #1. 2, IMO doesn’t make much sense. Zito has to pitch a game and all things being equal I’d rather it was against the Padres offense than the Snakes. 3 is preferable to me because I actually like the ancillary benefit of giving MadBum an extra day off before his next start. He’s been a hoss, but he’s still just a 20 (21 now?) year old kid whose pitching the longest season of his life. Take care of that young arm!
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by Smoke on the Water on Sep 27, 2010 2:10 PM PDT reply actions
Strikeout pitchers are more likely to shut down the D-backs. The Padres games are likely to be low-scoring anyway. You maximize our pitcher’s strengths with Zito facing SD.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
D-Backs are fastball hackers
Zito’s best pitch is the curveball…besides I would much rather have Timmy or Cain face SD.
Agree on all points.
I too voted #3 for the obvious benefit of having Timmy ready on Oct. 4 and to rest MadBum, but am fine with #1 too.
It's orange inside
Apparently...
I’m an idiot. Somehow I linked this whole damn thing when I didn’t mean to. Mods! Mods! Help me please! >.<
Not only that, but I think the link isn’t even there.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
hypno-toad
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Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
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I love some old school Link.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Sep 27, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s funny, because it looks like a link, but isnt really.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
LOL
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by giantsfansince1981 on Sep 27, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice sideburns, hippy.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
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by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
The problem with this option is that we get pitchers on short rest against San Diego, which is pretty risky.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Jose Guillen
Love the ‘advance to second on routine fly to right by leaving a year before the fielder catches the ball" move. That’s a savvy veteran for you.
Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!
That was awesome. I keep meaning to write down a list of the amazing things Jose Guillen has done in his brief time with the Giants. Of course you’ve got the laughable misadventures in right field, but you’ve also got the all the strikeouts, the seven double plays, getting thrown out on the bases after his first hit for the team, the six-rbi game, getting hit by two pitches in one inning, and now the ill-fated tag-up at first. Have I left anything out?
It’s been an action-packed six weeks.
I think he might asphyxiate on . . . someone’s vomit.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
We're not sure whose.
You can’t dust for vomit.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Temperature OT:
Wife told me it hit 111 in the Orange County…cannot image what it is like in Lancaster or Riverside
It's AWFUL in Riverside!
…wait, we’re talking about weather?
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
It is hell on earth.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
It feels like death here (Downtown L.A.). Maybe hell hath operspilled her gates to reclaim the Dodgers.
I’m enjoying the more or less comfortable conditions of Vallejo, California.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
If these really are your final days...
…wasn’t there someplace more exciting to spend them than the inner sunset?
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
It’s 113 right now in LA. Highest recorded temperature in LA ever. It is not very fun.
American Heroes: Joe Pavelski, Buster Posey, David Backes
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
Nope, no need to worry, nothing to see here.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
That is just hell poking through.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I got stuck in an elevator during one of those when I worked at Cala Foods. I wasn’t concerned because hey, I was getting paid hourly. Tried to take a nap but couldn’t so I started stacking boxes and putting my hat & apron on them like a cardboard Wilson.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah, wasn’t in there that long. I’d actually been upstairs gathering stock and a peed while I was up there.
I wasn’t too worried, because I had 20 pounds of trail mix at my disposal, if needed.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
We already lost our power last night. I almost missed my class because my alarm didn’t go off – thank god I have a backup cell phone alarm.
What I was most annoyed by was that my friends and I had a perfect song going on Band Hero when the power cut out. That, and there was no a/c during the night. But mostly the Band Hero thing.
American Heroes: Joe Pavelski, Buster Posey, David Backes
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
Berkeley is pretty damn hot, but not anywhere close to that.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
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This is what my car read when leaving work. Obviously isn’t accurate as I just turned the car on, but it sure felt like it. It stopped at 110º

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Sep 27, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah....
I stream KNBR through my phone when I drive, so I really don’t listen the radio. but yeah, they are. My wife likes the Spanish music, which is why 96.3 is there.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Sep 27, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
BOMbombomBOMbombomBOMbombomBOMbombomBOMbombomBOMbombomBOM...
…ad infinitum, 24/7, pounding through the paper-thin walls in my apartment in the Mexican neighborhood in Brooklyn.
/moved to Astoria
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 28, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Not concerned.
The Giants are better than both of these teams, and they have the lead in both the West and Wild Card.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
No! We have to have pitchers pitch on short rest!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
EJECT!!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Voted for #1
I’m fine with MadBum starting the playoff play-in game.
If we win that, then Timmy is set up for the playoff series, which is perfect.
If we don’t win it and MadBum blows up, I swear he won’t take the Salomon Torres career path (what a stupidly spelled first name, to make me double-check).
P.S. Why is Guillen.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
- my lord!
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 27, 2010 2:26 PM PDT reply actions
Yay formatting.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
GODDAMNIT SB NATION
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Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 27, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m glad you think so highly of your lord.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
AHHHHHH...stupid SB Nation
Anyone watching Tenth Inning?
Seems interesting…Bonds will probably be featured prominently/infamously…
I’ll be watching tomorrow, but I’m going to miss it on Wednesday.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 27, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants just need to keep on keepin’ on and not get too with the managing.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
The Managing?
First let me say that I’m not a frequent poster here, but I read this blog religiously. So please don’t beat me up to bad…The managing on Saturday was terrible and a bit frightening. If Bouchy (don’t correct me) manages a game like that in the final 6 games we are gonna be hurting. I think there’s a big difference in having confidence in your pitchers and being blinded by over confidence. Play the percentages Bouchy! Walk the hot stick and set up the double play. Make someone less talented beat you. This my strength versus your strength mentality is stupid and dangerous. That’s why Bonds walked.
WTF Really?
Thank you Baseball Reference
For the Padres’ lineup to be successful against Cain, the right-handed hitters could either sit on the fastball or anticipate the breaking ball with two strikes, while the left-handed hitters can expect a timely changeup deep in the at-bat.
by iloveddickdietz on Sep 27, 2010 2:30 PM PDT reply actions
If Cain’s effectiveness were neutralized by a good scouting report, I’m pretty sure he’d be out of the league by now.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Well, he didn’t assume that the righties and lefties could actually hit the curves and changes with two strikes.
Or the fastball early.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Feeble distraction attempt OT: Last Night's MadMen Yeah/Nay
I am leaning nay…. Up till now, IMO, this was the best season so far. But the past two episodes have been strained….Almost feels like the writers read some bullshit criticism about how nothing was happening and decided to shoehorn 1 year’s worth of events into 2 episodes.
SPOILER ALERT!
I liked the episode outside of the Joan pregnancy. Unless they pulled a swerve on us and she kept the baby, then it gets interesting.
All the Don stuff was great. And it was pretty clear that at some point Lucky Strike was going to leave. There were so many mentions of how much of the Agencys business it was.
I agree with all of that, but the pace of the previous episodes was so much slower. I am no writer, but the transition felt rushed- why did all that stuff have to happen at once?
Well thats usually how mad men works
It’s like drip, drip, then a rush starting around episode 10
LOUD NOISES!
I’M NOT LISTENING!
It’s DVRed at home and I have yet to watch any of the last four episodes.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I vote for scenario #2. I worry less about who can pitch a one-game playoff on Monday than I do about optimizing the matchups in the games that are actually scheduled to be played. And Friday night, at home, in a sold-out, rocking ballpark against the team you’re fighting for the division…I want a well-rested Timmy.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Matt Cain's sunday awesomeness has made my monday go well.
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by IRONxMIKE on Sep 27, 2010 2:36 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Except Wilson… get him up and throwing.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I voted for #3 but I also think we stick with what got us to this point. No fiddling.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 27, 2010 2:48 PM PDT reply actions
That is the same advice the nuns in my grade school gave me.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
But my Bluegrass band!
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Sep 27, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Baggs:
ATTN #SFGiants fans: The Saturday, Oct. 2 game vs. SD has been changed from 6:05 p.m. to 1:10 p.m. because Fox is picking up the game. 3 minutes ago via web
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
G’s just sent email as well. It also included this gem:
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Tweetup Happy Hour
Wednesday, September 29 vs. ARI at 7:15pm
Earlier this season, the Giants and Twitter hosted the first official Tweetup at AT&T Park. The event was such a success that we decided to do it again, but this time it’s “Tweetup Happy Hour!” Your special event ticket package includes a ticket to the game in one of the official Tweetup sections of the ballpark (most of which are in section 140… 140 characters… we know, we’re clever), plus a pre-game Tweetup in Scoreboard Plaza from 5:15pm-7pm, one complimentary drink at the pre-game party, and various Twitter promotions throughout the game. The pregame Tweetup will feature a DJ, cash bar, some Giants giveaways, and as a bonus, the first 250 fans to arrive to the party will receive the t-shirt from our first Tweetup. Make sure to follow @SFGiants on Twitter, and use the #SFGTweetup hastag during the event!
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Strange promo is strange.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Apparently, they miss the point that with Twitter, you don’t NEED a huge corporate entity to get news & event information out.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I like:
the first 250 fans to arrive to the party will receive the t-shirt from our first Tweetup
So what kind of promotional mistake was that? They either ran off too many the first time or … the shirts weren’t delivered in time for the first one?
(Huge) image of the shirt: http://marketingmystic.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/tweetup_sfg1.jpg
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Yecch.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I can haz pathetic attempt to be hip?
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 28, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
NO!!!!!
we play better at night than we do in day games
by giant4life83 on Sep 27, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
the pitching isn't the issue here
The difference between 1, 2 and 3 is minimal. We’re all shying away from the scary inevitable truth, which is that our offense must produce in order for us to win these games.
No more Cainings – it’s go time!!
Don't Mess with the rotation, just win fucking ballgames god dammit
Barry Zito is going to have to pitch in an important game, Padres or no. That’s the real problem. And he hasn’t been absolutely dreadful his last two starts – more unlucky than awful, really.
Also, I think the Giants should go ahead and win a lot of games in the next week, no matter what the rotation is. They shouldn’t feel awkward about it. That would be swell.
This is precisely it.
No matter how you stack up the rotation, it comes down to the Giants winning games this week, and Barry Zito will have to pitch in at least one of them. If the Giants go 3-3, the Braves will have to go 4-2 just to MATCH, and needs to go 5-1 to win outright. If the Giants win 4 or more games, the Braves will pretty much have to win every single game. And that is just for the wild card.
The bottom line is : Win Fucking Games, Motherfuckers. Beat the Dbacks senseless, stretch that hole open wide, and ram a fucking juggernaut down the path repeatedly and ferociously.
Rodrigo Lopez is a piece of garbage. His ERA is over 5, and his FIP is over 5. His stats are so bad that Fangraphs look at it and say “shit, really? No man can be that bad that he gives up 1.66 home runs per 9 inning! C’mon, you serious? Here, why don’t I pretend he doesn’t suck this bad, normalize his HR numbers, and … xFIP! 4.7 looks much better!” He’s like that guy in the class who suck so bad, the teacher has to take the square root of his score and then multiply it by 10 just so he doesn’t look like he isn’t doing his job. It’s going to be like that time when the Rock gets into the ring, and McMahon changes the rule from “round robin” to “7 vs 1.” He’s gonna get fucking gang banged by Jose Guillen and angry Pat Burrell, and make no mistake about it, he doesn’t have a pussy to be jealous in this case.
Just for fun, we’re going to let Chris Young get to first base because that’s what Sanchez does, he walks hitters that cannot possibly be walked. He’s going to try to steal second, and Posey is going to jump up with the ball, yell “IT’S TOO CLOSE FOR MISSILES, I’M SWITCHING TO GUNS” and throw him out by 5 feet at second base. Then he’s going to do a barrell roll into the dugout, just because.
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
That got a little weird.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
It got very weird, but I loved it nonetheless.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Sep 27, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like someone just switched to decaf!
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Part of this is an act sir.
But I posted a little too early because somebody was walking by, and it got redundant. I meant to delete the first bold part before posting because I repeated the idea in the other paragraph. Oops.
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I posted a little too early because somebody was walking by
I hear that thinking of baseball helps stop this problem.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s more because I have browser open, but your point is well taken. Delete the original post if you can, please.
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Oh, no. I was just making a PE joke.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Joke?

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
God, a clock that large, and he still can’t make it to the game before the third inning…
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 28, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Also: Top Gun OT
WTF did it take like 7 hours for Iceman to fire his missile during the I’m not leaving him scene (TWSS)
otherwise there wouldn’t be enough air time for Maverick to say he’s not leaving his wingman twice for emphasis.
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I’ve really soured on Top Gun over the years. It used to be one of my favorite movies, and now I don’t really like it at all.
That said, it still has by far the best aerial combat footage I’ve ever seen in an action movie.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s completely unrealistic because modern air combat is fought over the distance of miles, what they showed was more 1950s style air combat.
But Top Gun was about awesome lines, awesome scenes, and just general visual awesomeness. Machine gun fire?!? DO A BARREL ROLL!
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
it’s completely unrealistic because modern air combat is fought over the distance of miles with unmanned drones.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
I thought modern air combat was fought with phasers and photon torpedoes.
(Why would a torpedo of photons hurt anything?)
by non sequitur on Sep 27, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
srsly?
x-rays and gamma rays are photons.
When this .sig was awaiting the Final Sabean Apocalypse, I never once in a million years suspected it would be a "good" Apocalypse. Bengie... Don't let the door hit you IN YOUR GIANT ASS on the way out!
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game totally stalled and basically dead at this point
Realism aside, it looks exceptional.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
but are they real?
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Yes, the volleyball scene was. Wait, that’s not what you meant?
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I’m moving in slow motion
Feels so good
It’s a strange anticipation
Knock, knock, knocking on wood
Bodies working overtime
Man against man
And all that ever matters
Is baby who’s ahead in the game
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Dang you jctGamer
This song/MV is stuck in my head
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfOpQnRE0qs
I don’t know if it’s the song or the crappy volleyball play
You're the Top Gun? Now it's time for beach volleyball!
And Top Gun is perhaps my favorite bad movie. It’s so bad, yet so entertaining.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
No mistakes. He just wears you down until you do something stupid…and he’s got you.
I shouldn’t know that; I’m gonna go wash my brain.
You had me at "win fucking ballgames god dammit"
so I’ll just ignore the gratuitously violent metaphors and fantasy tangents
It's orange inside
I enjoy Jct's angry posts
My mom: "I see so many Giants fans on TV at Petco, it's like you're at Pac Bell."
Me: "Almost, just with a substantially greater amount of douchebags."
Voted #1
I’d like to see the team put a lot of effort into these AZ games to make it easier on themselves vs. SD.. Having a lead going into the SD series would be awesome and starting the series behind the Padres would not.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
it’d be really huge if the Padres lose tonight.
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Best case scenario is Cubs take 2-2, I really can’t see the Padres losing more than 2 games in that series at Petco. If we win the D-backs series 2-1 that gives us a 1 game lead going in, which would be huge.
could you see the Braves losing 2/3 to the stinking Nats?
Anything can happen in the heat of the race…
Braves actually suck against Nads
8-10 on the season (7-8 before the weekend series)
8-7 v the fishes…I would like to here Dan Uggla’s name a lot these next few days…
SSS
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I think you need to work on your seeing a little bit more. SWEEP THE PRIESTS!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
if we could go in with a 2 game lead, that means we only need to win 1 of 3. that would be awesome.
if we go in with a 1 game lead, or tied, we’d need to win 2 of 3 to avoid tiebreaker games.
by giant4life83 on Sep 27, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree. And I have tickets to see Timmy on Thursday if the rotation stays as is. I also don’t like the switch because there is an inherent message to the D-bags that we don’t need our ace to beat them. I would hate to switch everything around only to have it work against the Giants somehow.
last time i checked Enright owned us, so yeah.
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Only in his first start
his last start against us: 6 IP, 9 H, 6 ER, 3 HR, 0 BB, 1 K. That was in Arizona though, so who knows.
by scotterduder on Sep 27, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Cubs
For the next 4 days i’m the biggest goddamn cubs fan in the world. Can we loan them a pitcher or two this week?
dempster was great before that outing, so hopefully it was an abberation
by giant4life83 on Sep 27, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Any rotation is fine.
As long as Lincecum & Cain are available out of the ’pen at a moments notice.
Every game.
OT: Ever hit that point where you simply decide you're not going to be productive for the rest of the work day?
I’m there.
Slacker...
I don’t get that feeling until at least 9 AM
Adopted Son: !Matt Downs I'll miss you my son.
Oh you
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
wait, you are game six. why do you care about Woody vs Livan!
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
You are not a man, you are a historical event.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
It's back!
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Remember to consult a physician if it lasts longer than a few hours.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 27, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
It came back but wouldn’t let me sign in for a long time. Which is okay, I guess, because I need to write about Kafka.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, I guess it still doesn’t want me to sign in to some sites….
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
avoid light of judgement
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
We only had to read Metamorphosis, In the Penal Colony, A Country Doctor, A Hunger Artist, and Josephine the Singer.
In the Penal Colony was not about what it sounds like.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought you meant Kefka. LOL.
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
There is penetration at the end.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
My favorite Kafka
is definitely Roasting – A Simple Art.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
If you like Kafka
Read The Judgment (no, I don’t mean The Trial). It’s really good.
I was promised lasagna.
It wouldn’t let me sign in to Niners Nation for a while.
Now I’ve forgotten whatever presumably hilarious thing I was going to say about Jimmy Raye.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
It was awesome.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL CALIFORNIA RAISINS
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyway, forget making fun of Raye. Singletary has a brand new hilarious press conference to make fun of.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s really amazing how fast Singletary has gone from Savior Of The Franchise to About To Be Fired.
I do not think the quality of his press conferences has changed recently at all. He’s the same guy, but people are tired of his shit now that the team sucks.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
You know what, sometimes when you’re going through a season, especially when it’s early in the season as it is right now, you watch Singletary’s press conferences. Obviously, I’ve looked at every press conference a few times. But when you’re searching for an answer, sometimes you can look at it in a different way, and you’re looking for something specific and it’s really difficult to put your finger on, but you see it, and it’s hard to describe, but it’s there. So I just think that after looking at the press conferences and thinking about them, praying about them, this is what we’ve come to.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
it's Chinese Taipei
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Why.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 27, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh god did they come in the mail today? I’m not opening that package until Monday.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
Indeed. They came in an inconspicuous FedEx envelop.
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
I think I’m going to bury that envelope in the yard until it is needed.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
Good idea.
Now what did you say your address was again?
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Serren-fuckin-dipity
I just z’ed to your post and when I saw your ticket strip I realized that tix were coming today. The minute my heart sank thinking they could be sitting in the lobby, my phone range with the intercom number, and up came the FedEx dude with my tix.
$300.00 face for WS tix—ouch.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
I hope those work out better than these did :(

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
there are no jinxes with old tickets!
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Oh great. Now I’m going to have to pull out the old double secret anti-jinxerator.
/grabs crotch
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure you were just looking for a reason to grab your crotch.
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
TWSS
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
/safeword
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Muskrat?
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
I always use Rumpelstiltskin.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 28, 2010 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions
GAH!
MUST AVERT EYES
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
My buddy and I decided that if the Twins and the Giants go to the WS we are going to a game. Vegas has the Giants at 5/2 and Twins at 6/1. What are my chances math nerbs?
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
Assuming those are fair odds (they’re not since Vegas has a built in profit), there’s a 6.67% chance of both the Giants and the Twins going to the World Series. Realistically, it’s probably less than 5%. Having the Giants at 40% to go to the World Series is ridiculous since it implies that they’d be the favorites in a series against the Phillies.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Sep 28, 2010 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Was there a mccoven in the chico state library today
I saw someone in a giants shirt on some sbn site but i didnt just want to walk up an be like hey, saw you were carousing sbn, im operation carrot */ secret mcc handshake
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Sep 27, 2010 3:56 PM PDT reply actions
If there is a secret handshake, I think it ought to be more discreet.
by non sequitur on Sep 27, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Consider the audience…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
You can use it to make the secret milkshake.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
You should have started discreetly doing the Goofus dance.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
hi
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
dammit
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Wait...
are we allowed to acknowledge each other in non-MCC sanctioned events/meet-ups? I don’t want the wrath of Grant on me for talking about the club
i like to think of more as stalking with style
/accidently stalks fotenot
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Sep 27, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I vote for #1
The last thing we need at this point is Bruce Bochy trying to be clever.
Also, I still hate Jose Guillen. Except for the one grand slam. But even Eli Whiteside hits a slam now and then. Well, okay, just “then”.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Jokes on you!
Eli’s hitting one right……………. now
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Sep 27, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Bullsit, it doesn't!
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Sep 27, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
International House of Padres?
I’ve got my eye on you, sir…
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Sep 27, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
International house of Pragmatism
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Sep 27, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
You Hop
I Read
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Sep 27, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Guillen is fucking the team over left and right. Perhaps we win on Sat with a RF who can actually run. Perhaps we win that game in LA when he didn’t make that shoestring catch. Perhaps we win that ARI game where he drops a lazy fly and 3 more runs score in the 1st inning.
What game has he actually played a serious role in winning, ie we WOULD NOT have won without him? The 3rd MIL game last week? maybe?
by giant4life83 on Sep 27, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
IAWTC
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Sep 27, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
i know, but it seems he’s been more of a detriment than helpful. he’s always turning doubles into triples, hitting triples that are double, doubles that are singles.
im surprised he hasn’t caused an inside-the-parker yet
by giant4life83 on Sep 27, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I Agreed With Your Comment!
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Sep 27, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
still a little new, thought IAWTC meant Ifs And Whats or something like that, lol
what does it mean then?
by giant4life83 on Sep 27, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I Agree With This Comment
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Sep 27, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Google and/or Urban Dictionary can be your friend.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Or not
Often after consulting Urban Dictionary, I find myself wishing I hadn’t.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
This
I’ve found some super wierd things. FTW, for one, does not always mean For The Win. Fuck The Women, anyone?
by giant4life83 on Sep 27, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
OK.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
When I first got here I thought FTW was "Fuck The World"
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
No, we can’t.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Quotes mid line has always been fine. Try starting a new line with a quote.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, sure, mid-line has “always” been fine.
“always”
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
If it’s tattooed on you, particularly on the face or hands, it probably does mean that.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2010 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
if we miss the playoffs, i will blame Guillen. forever.
luckily for him, i wont have to kill him because I have faith we will make it despite Borks best efforts to deter us
by giant4life83 on Sep 27, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
/Buffalo 66’d
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 28, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Definitely the Brewers game.
He hit a 1st inning grand slam and it was never in doubt after that. WPA of .309 for that game.
Other than that…looks like his next best WPA was 8/29 against the DBacks. 2-run single in the 7th put the Giants ahead 7-6 in a game they went on to win 9-7. His WPA was .174 which trailed Sanchez (.206), Wilson (.205) and Huff (.179).
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
if they don’t skip Zito out of the rotation, i would hope bork uses nate in RF given Guillens history of ruining crucial plays with zito, a straight up flyball pitcher, on the mound
by giant4life83 on Sep 27, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I want
Burrell in LF
Torres in CF
Cody in RF
Nate as late inning defensive replacement for Pat and Guillen as a PH.
Guillen should never start again
The fact that he started all 3 games at coors and did absolutely nothing but hurt the team speaks volumes about our managers evaluations of “defense” and “offense”.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
the only obvious thing he did in COL was cost us two runs in a game where that difference would have been a win
by giant4life83 on Sep 27, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Weather report: 0% chance of Nate
I don’t think Bochy even remembers how to spell “Schierholtz”.
However, even he can write “Ross”, and with Cody’s hot road trip, maybe we’ll see calbearjd’s preferred outfield.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
3 seems like the way to go
To preserve the Lincecum option in a potential playoff, but I wonder if he could use a day off. The less Zito, the better.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
Marlins game delayed due to rain
Here’s to hoping for double headers!
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
A friend of mine said there was a big bicker in the parking lot at Chase Field at the DBacks Dodgers game
yesterday between a Giant Fan and a Padre fan. He said that the Padres fan told the Giants fan that he better get used to 2nd place from here on out. A Dback fan stepped in and just informed the two that the Giants had just got done beating the Rockies 4-2. and the padre fan was surrounded by a big “OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH.”
What were a Giants fan and Padres fan doing at a Dbacks/Dodgers game in AZ? Also there are Padres fans?
Well, they aren’t at Petco, amirite?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Clearly a mistake on the part of the Padres organization
They should have built their stadium in Phoenix where their fan is.
The sandbox and the pool would go well together.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Some of Grant's best work
If Cardinals fans are known for being some sort of laboratory-pure breed of baseball fan, if Phillies fans are known for booing sick orphans just because, and if Padres fans are known for being Greg and Peter from Chula Vista
Weird. Also in that thread
Maybe Bizzaro-Zito will wait until August
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
I like that the Cubs are playing the Pads
Say what you will about how much they suck – they’re playing hard.
This isn’t a team that’s out of it and lazy, like the Dodgers. Dodgers know they can mail it in because their big players are all gonna be back next year.
Cubs are full of young guys fighting for a place. That’s exactly who I’d want the Pads to play.
The Cubs and the Dbacks are still playing hard.
The Dodgers are like Paris Hilton.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
And Quade is one of the ones fighting
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
We may not get to game #163 if the pitching is aligned per scenario #3.
There’s no point in setting the rotation for game #163, because that game is not guaranteed.
Game #s 157-162 are guaranteed games, so i would hope they put the best pitching matchups out for games that we absolutely know we will play, not plan for the “potential future” and miss out on the present. If anyone mentioned this above, sorry, I haven’t read the thread yet.
If you look too far ahead, you may trip over what is in front of you.
Where would game 163 be played? Is there a ticket in the post-season package for it?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
won’t be played in SF b/c we didn’t win either season series with ATL or SD.
but I’m sure you could get tickets in SD. Guaranteed. I might fly down for the game myself, but it wont take place. I have confidence in my team.
Anyone really believe scenario #3 is our best bet, based on the argument I make above?
by giant4life83 on Sep 27, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Since nobody seems to be seriously advocating holding Timmy for the Padres, that means the only difference scenario #3 would make versus just keeping the rotation as-is is the days of rest for Lincecum and Bumgarner. You would give Tim’s rest day to Madison. You would also have Lincecum available on regular rest for game 163, instead of having to go with Bumgarner or Lincecum on short rest.
Thing C
I like option #5
Tuesday vs. Arizona – Sanchez
Wednesday vs. Arizona – Bumgarner
Thursday vs. Arizona – Lincecum
Friday vs. San Diego – Cain
Saturday vs. San Diego – Sanchez
Sunday vs. San Diego – Bumgarner
Next important game – Lincecum
option 109
brian wilson starts the one game playoff
uses only 27 pitches to win the game
i think he actually used to be a starter
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Sep 27, 2010 4:39 PM PDT reply actions
I’m really bad at words with friends
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 27, 2010 4:39 PM PDT reply actions
we just need to hit and we'll be fine
no more Randy Wells games.
Unless you’re the Padres
White Whale update
Werth homers in the first against the Nats. Now hitting .293/.386/.525 this season.
Still don't know what to make of Werth
Good stats but plays in Philly with that hitters’ ballpark and that loaded lineup…
What will he do in a place like AT&T and a less than powerful lineup like the Giants have…
Here are some numbers to assuage you
http://blogs.delawareonline.com/philledin/2010/09/09/is-werth-worth-the-money/
He’s a good hitter anywhere, and “protection” is mostly a myth – after all, wouldn’t the result be that Werth would get on base more in a weaker lineup, something that we’d WANT him to do?
:(
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Sep 27, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
My hope is
Rain out today and tomorrow…DH on Wed…have to play on their day off on Thursday…completely screws up their pitching rotation.
im more afraid that the phillies will not start Hamels/Halladay/Oswalt, along with Utley, Howard and Werth, because they will want to rest them, giving the Braves easy wins on a weekend where ifthe Braves get beaten 2 of 3 or swept, we otherwise could clinch a playoff spot and just be playing the pads for the division.
by giant4life83 on Sep 27, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
hopefully Manuel has some gamesmanship, and makes the Braves earn it.
by giant4life83 on Sep 27, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d rather see Zito and Timmeh’s starts flip-flopped, because Zito walks alot of people, and even with Buster, the pads will take advantage of that and run all over us. Once we fall 3 runs behind SD, their staff is good enough to hold us down.
Though because of the off-day, we could just skip Zito’s start completely- but I don’t think Bork has the balls to do that.
OT: Phil cuzzi strikes again
Strike zone for papelbon in the bottom of the 9th inning after the sox scored 2 runs to go ahead off rivera.
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How odd that a guy from new york is catering a game towards the team from new york after their legendary closer gives up 2 runs.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
wasn’t good enough. fuck that guy.
we would be up 1.5 games on the Pads right now, and in much, much better position heading into this final week.
by giant4life83 on Sep 27, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Best part about the whole game
Yankee’s fans complaining about the strike zone after rivera had 4 bases stolen off him in the inning and was missing badly.
Clearly phil cuzzi was just “paying it forward” to the boss by not calling pitches that were blatant strikes balls to give the yankee’s a chance to “compete” since they are at such a clear disadvantage.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Dude, are we supposed to take this seriously?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, I heard that Tejada pulled his groin again on Sat, did he go on the DL or is he playing it out?
Playing it out
He hurt it really bad and could barely walk up the line so hopefully that doesn’t change.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
With expanded rosters, teams don’t need to use the DL (see: Andres Torres).
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
gotcha. what i meant, i guess, is was he gonna rest it or keep playing.
playing with a groin injury is very tough, he may not make it through the cubs series before he is forced to rest. not to mention the hit they will take on D at SS with the range reduction
by giant4life83 on Sep 27, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
preserve MAD Bum
I vote for don’t mess with the rotation. We are on top, other people can try to adjust to us.
ALSO Bumgarner, his first big league season, don’t push him more than needed. In the playoffs he can alternate with Zito or something.
proud, yes I said proud, adoptive papa of "Geno" Eugenio Velez--
more game changing bunts than Buster Posey!
Logical inconsistency
“don’t mess with the rotation” = #1
“preserve MadBum” = #3 more than #1
Why he gets an extra day of rest now and we don’t have to think about putting him in the one-game playoff, so he gets 2+ extra days next time around.
It's orange inside
113 degrees
can’t believe this is the hottest day in LA in recorded time
It’s just a little bit of hell peaking through.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
it is?
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Sep 27, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
i voted. I’m going to ignore this post and start complaining about Jose Guillen
cuz i trust botchy to make the right decisions with our pitching staff and……LOL sorry i couldn’t keep a straight face. ftw i cant beilive i just said that something is really wrong with rite now. anyways also i cant stop complaining about guillen and also guillen.
P.S i hope the padres lose today. PLEASE LOSE PADRES
I'm already watching the yankees lose and michael kay and singleton tear up
LOL @ them saying the Yankee’s are at a disadvantage playing at the blue jays park.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
…because Yankee Stadium isn’t such a bandbox…
by giant4life83 on Sep 27, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I voted for number 1, leave it alone. But I’d be careful not to leave Zito in the game Fri. if he gives up 3 or 4 runs…
We will see what the GM says, he is on KNBR right now.
grumble grumble jose guillen is a proffesional hitter grumble grumble
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
So they moved up the game on Sat, so instead of listening to Krup and Kuip for the second-to-last day of the year (since they don’t do playoffs), we have to listen to fucking Eric Karros and Joe Buck? not to mention our night game record is better? why won’t fox just air it on sat night?
that sucks
The giants should have just declined to be on fox
Then again with the grip fox has on the MLB’s nut sack I’m not sure if teams can even turn it down.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
They actually probably welcomed it. This moves K&K to the radio. Jon will, no doubt be flying back east to do that all important NY/boston match up… and Flem has an intercollegiate handegg match to cover. So no JT, Bip, FP, or Papa on the radio.
So no JT, Bip, FP, or Papa on the radio.
Never saw this coming…but FauxSports may have saved the world.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
I probably can't watch the game on Saturday because of their shenanigans!
Of course, I’ve said that many times this season.
I CAN HAZ MARK REYNOLDS?
dude mute your tv and turn on the radio so you can listen to kuip and kurkow and miller. its AWESOME. KARROS AND BUCK ARE FUCKIN BORING
i watch on HD as well, so there is probably a 30 second lag time
by giant4life83 on Sep 27, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
That would be awful if Karros was the one who announces the Giants clinching...
he already ruined Pat’s homer to beat the Bums a few months back…
It would be cool to see the Giants celebrate on national TV though
Kruk & Kuip do broadcast the playoffs. Don’t you remember Krukow hollering when Jon Miller was describing the stake through the heart of the Cardinals?
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 28, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Shift-A
#3. But I’m also fine with any of them. Just win baby, just win.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
This Man is a winner

Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Sep 27, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
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It's better to be lucky than good.
by Myemail21479 on Sep 28, 2010 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I count ten logos (or parts thereof) and one lich king.
I love that even the booze (I’m assuming that’s not just Coca-Cola in there) is branded.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 28, 2010 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
A.J. Burnett
Thank god sabez didn’t get his hands on that with his blue jays roots.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Sabes just sez
That he will discuss the scenarios later with Bochy.
Maybe pitch Tim on Wednesday, give Madison the extra day.
They won’t tweak it drastically.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Sep 27, 2010 5:11 PM PDT reply actions
Presenting your East Coast Bias fix of the day
Steve Phillips, baseball’s most famous perv, has inexplicably found a home doing analysis/commentary on WFAN’s (New York) Mike Francesca show.
Here is today’s interview (2nd clip from the top) analyzing the pennant contenders… you can find out some amazing Giants facts beginning at around 13:50 of the clip. Especially liked the gushing praise for Bork. Incidentally, Phillips gave the Giants no chance at all about a month ago.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
In all fairness, I think a lot of people gave the Giants no chance about a month ago.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Sep 27, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough – but I wouldn’t explain the Giants resurgence since then on the amazing talents of their brilliant manager as Phillips seems to do.
Phillips also noted, among his other attributes, that Posey is an excellent baserunner. I’m not disputing that, but he might have a disagreement with Posey’s terrific manager.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
I'm actually not going to complain about Guillen. I'm just glad Wellemeyer is not part of this conversation.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
The Todd!
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Sep 27, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously, I'd rather be anxious about a possibly bad Zito start
than wonder if Wellemeyer is capable of making a good one.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
THIS
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Sep 27, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Full Disclosure
I feel asleep listening to Brian’s show on the radio, just woke up, he’s still talking
FYI - Padres/Cubs on WGN tonight at 7pm.
… will probably occasionally flip to it during MNF. I can’t stand watching Pads baseball.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
OT: For some reason, I never noticed Dinger behind the plate until the game yesterday on TBS
Now, I want someone to throw a dodgeball at its head when he popups up…or a really big mallet to come down from somewhere
I really hate it when he makes the “choke” or “punched in the gut” impersonations. Beyond pathetic.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Sep 27, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate when he shakes his hands behind the plate. Dinger is the worst thing to happen in the history of sports.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
They pretty much hate him too. Why anyone cares what they think is beyond me.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Whaddya get? Another day older and you’re deeper in debt.
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
Saint Dinger, doncha call me, ‘cause I can’t gooooo
I owe my soul to the Purple Rowwww.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 28, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Screw the groupthink
#2 is good. Games against SD really are that much more important than games against Arizona.
Going 3-0 against Arizona and 0-3 against SD would essentially eliminate us from the division race, and give us a ~50% of winning the wild card. But the opposite – getting swept by Arizona and sweeping SD – would virtually guarantee that we win the division. Both would mean going 3-3, but one gives us a 50% chance of making the playoffs, and the other 99%. Obviously the difference between one game of Zito and one of Lincecum isn’t 3 wins (nor is it a single win, or even a quarter of that – it’s somewhere closer to 10% of a win), but it demonstrates just how important the games against SD are.
#3 is just as good, though. Maybe better, I can’t decide (that would require estimating the chances of a 163rd game, the difference between Lincecum and Zito, the difference between Lincecum and Bumgarner, and the difference between of the importance of a game against Arizona and a game against SD – and I just don’t feel like doing that).
I was promised lasagna.
Cooky!
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
You guys fail geography
Sparta is not in Florida nor in China! It’s where Lester Flatt was from!
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Republican
It's better to be lucky than good.
by Myemail21479 on Sep 28, 2010 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd prefer #1.
It keeps things the same at a time that the pitching and the team in general seem to be playing well. However, I’m fairly certain that Sabean and Bochy don’t want Bumgarner pitching in a playoff or in game 1 of the playoffs. I actually don’t think that this attitude is unreasonable. I’m mostly worried about Madison tiring at a point where every inning is important. In that case, I’d go with #3. For the playoffs they’d probably go with a 4man rotation and use Madison as a supersub reliever.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Sanchez just needs his shoulder to calm down, is all.
“I’m expecting he may be up against a shot of some form,” Sabean said. "If that happens he’d probably be out for at least for tomorrow’s game, but it’s nothing major from what I’ve been told.
“It looks like we have a chance to calm this thing down. That’s the reason we have (Mike) Fontenot. One way or the other we’ll press forward. If it ends up (with him) being out there less than 100 percent, and he wasn’t yesterday, maybe we’ll resort to that because of the bat. If not, we’ve got Fontenot in the wings.”
.277/.399/.518 out of a shortstop?!
Keep on, keepin' on, Ryan Cavan
I thought you were talking about a different Sanchez and I was about to be really upset. But then I realized that Mike Fontenot is hardly a suitable replacement for Congresswoman Lisa Sanchez.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
DeRosa masturbating to news of Freddy’s injury?
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
/Hackman punches you in the face for the implied masturbation
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2010 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions
This is a hard decision.
I don’t want Zito pitching vs. SD and I don’t him pitching the possible tie-breaker..scratches head
Go Sharks!
Please fish
Make it rain runs.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
The fish just answered my call with a padres rally
<3 soft fly balls
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Alright so the Rockies lost
But if they finish the year 4-2, and the Padres and Giants both get -2 wins and 8 losses, they still have a chance!
Wow, Nady’s having a bad season. How does he get 300 ABs?
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Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Sep 27, 2010 8:38 PM PDT reply actions
Oops, wrong thread. Sorry!
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Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Sep 27, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
He's a Nady, woah woah woah, He's a Nady
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
He can talk!
He can talk, he can talk, he can talk, he can talk, he can talk, he can talk, he can talk…
Nady can siiiiiiiiing!
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Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Sep 27, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Derrek Lee was pretty bad for a while too.
Then, when he got good, he was traded.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
…Then he got bad again.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 28, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I still need an answer: Why did Bochy let Wilson pitch to Troy Tulowitzki on Saturday?
With an open base, I still don’t see why he let Wilson pitch to him. I haven’t gotten an answer yet.
Bochy’s brain stops working after the top of the 9th inning…. I thought everyone knew that?
Buster Posey ain't havin it... He aint.
by Caine Black Knife on Sep 27, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Stops working? Wouldn’t that mean it had to have started sometime previously?
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Sep 27, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Wilson rules! I’d take my chances with him vs anyone for 1 out period. Maybe not Bonds circa 01 but just about anyone else.
It's better to be lucky than good.
by Myemail21479 on Sep 28, 2010 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Bumgarner in a one -game playoff?
too much like Salomon Torres in 93
by notinmylifetime on Sep 27, 2010 9:05 PM PDT reply actions
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Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 27, 2010 9:13 PM PDT reply actions
…what.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 27, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Modern music
Also, WooHoo! Muse + Passion Pit tomorrow night!
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
Don't mess with success.
With the Giants rotation there’s no need for adjustments. JUST SCORE RUNS and no more Cadaver routines.. You’re in 1st place free and clear for the 1st time tonight so get going. It’s there to be had & remember, 4 more W’s guarantees it.
by Nailblubberina on Sep 27, 2010 10:06 PM PDT reply actions
Counter to number 3
I like option 1. Keep rotation as is. These starters are playing high stress games. The last thing you want to do when they are rolling, is change them up and make them think. Just pitch baby.
Second, for possible game 163, you can pitch Bumgarner and Lincecum! Gasp. Anyone remember when Pedro came in relief vs the Yankees? Randy Johnson pitching game 7 after starting game 6?
You can give Bumgarner 2-3 innings, and when his time in order comes up the first or second time, pinch hit and bring in Timmy. This could be devastating to any platoon righty lineups, and Tim could go twice through the order and BOOM its the 9th inning.
Bumgarner should not be starting in post season, so you really were going to use Tim in this spot anyways. This would only use him 4-6 innings instead of 6-8, and have him fresh in case of game 3.
It's better to be lucky than good.
What about senerio 5?
And just like senerios 1-3 non of the starters would be asked to pitch without at least 4 days rest in the six regular season games remaining and any tie breaker games beyond.
Scenario #5 – Rejiggerin’ for both SD and tie breaker playoffs
Tuesday vs. Arizona – Sanchez
Wednesday vs. Arizona – Lincecum (regular rest because of the off day)
Thursday vs. Arizona – Zito (regular rest because of the off day)
Friday vs. San Diego – Bumgarner
Saturday vs. San Diego – Cain
Sunday vs. San Diego – Sanchez
Starter for a possible tie-breaker against SD or Atlanta – Lincecum
Starter for possible second tie-breaker game if three way tie with both SD and Atlanta – Zito (very unlikely to be
needed but how it is Sold to Zito that he will not be pitching against SD.)
by BornRaisedAGiant on Sep 28, 2010 1:14 AM PDT reply actions
Rotation
I voted no. 1. While it’s true that victories against the Padres are more important today, the key word is today. The Cubs could make those games less than important, if the Monday night game is any indication of things to come. This whole discussion could have been delayed a day or two, providing vastly different results.
I honestly think #4 would win more games...lol
It's just a plant, it grows in the earth, and if you happen to set it on fire there are some effects...
I voted for number four.
Because I want to ride the Timmehcain all the way to the top (y’know like Arizona rode Schilling and Johnson in ‘01, but with less douche and acne scarring), but I also want to blame Jose Guillen for the world’s ills.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 28, 2010 5:38 PM PDT reply actions

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