Post-game thread: Giants flail, fail
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 22, 2010 7:36 PM PDT
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PrintWell, one doesn't just walk into Wrigley Field and expect to score against Randy Wells. C'mon. That's Randy Wells! We're just lucky to be able to watch him, his 88-mph fastball, and his loopy breaking ball. Sometimes you get beat by the best in the game, and you just have to tip your cap.
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THAT GAME SUCKED
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by sadison bummedgarner on Sep 22, 2010 7:37 PM PDT reply actions
I miss that feeling where I was like ‘hey, they are actually putting together good, professional at-bats here’.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 22, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Sabean has built a home run hitting team
Around old guys who can’t hit home runs.
Well done. It’s going good. Don’t change a thing.
if the Dodgers win the World Series, I will set myself on fire
Who would you rather have?
Who should Sabean have acquired? I’m guessing you don’t like the Burrell and Huff acquisitions either, right?
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
I’d have been pretty okay without Guillen.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
At least he can run.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Whatever.
How about power?
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
You're right
Guillen has some more power than Nate. But Nate can still get to second on a ball hit to the outfield and play good defense.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Whatever.
What about defense?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok
So both of them are on the team now. Botchy chooses to play Guillen over Nate. Offense over defense. So you know more about Baseball than Botch.
Science.
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
There is a healthy amount of room for offense vs. defense debates, but “the manager knows more than you” is a real copout.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
UR A BOTCH!!!
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
So You Trust The Decisions Of The Professionals, Eh?
LOL
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow.
I got the “you can’t talk because you’re not a pro” and “LOL nerd in mom’s basement” memes on consecutive replies. Can a brother get a “I’ve been here longer than you” for the trifecta?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
STFU. You don't even get to ask for that comment.
Only someone who’s been here longer would get to ask for that.
Oh wait.
Jackpot!
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
What?
I was commenting about the relative weight I should put to an opinion…fans are always “right” because no one calls them out for their mistakes…Coaches/players do…
You shouldn’t be putting relative weight to opinions. You should be forming your own.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I know right? It's so funny (laugh out loud)!
Bochy really botched it up in 2007 and 2008 with those juggernaut teams. You surely would have made the playoffs as manager.
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
Wow
If you can’t question the decision of a manager in a particular instance without proving that you yourself would have done better several years prior with a completely different team than I don’t know what we’re doing here.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone has ripped on Botchy from time to time.
As goes with every manager. Even ones that win 100 games and a championship. But now? Over playing Guillen over Nate? Nate had his chance. It’s an old debate. If anyone is going to rip Boch over what he has done this season while in first place they deserved to get ridiculed by me. Im my humble opinion that is. Feel free to ponder your life choices/decisions on how you spend your time on a baseball blog though. It’s amusing.
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I was just typing this!
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Relative to John Bowker, sure.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Bowker
3-3, 2B, HR, IBB
My mom: "I see so many Giants fans on TV at Petco, it's like you're at Pac Bell."
Me: "Almost, just with a substantially greater amount of douchebags."
I don’t think DrDC was so much as considering Tay’s comments when he made his reply.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I also don’t think Tay said anything other than listing Bowker’s numbers today. I’m not the one reading beyond what the post said, he is.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Of course he was...
he was intimating that Bowker did not get a chance with the Giants and used his good day to support such a claim…
Agreed. I think he was simply responding to a Bowker reference, not offering 3 at-bats as some kind of definitive proof of potential.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
3 AB’s prove everything you need to know about a player!
My mom: "I see so many Giants fans on TV at Petco, it's like you're at Pac Bell."
Me: "Almost, just with a substantially greater amount of douchebags."
/Giant’s way’d
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah. You need a week.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 22, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I was a big Nate supporter...
in 2008 and 2009 with nothing to lose and everything to gain. Not now, and a few missed at bats here and ther is not enough to say he still may be the answer. During a pennant race!
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LOL
a few missed at bats here and ther
Year PAs
2007 117
2008 81
2009 308
2010 242
That’s, what, barely a full season of ABs spread over four years?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Moreover . . .
. . . the key word there is “spread”. Most batters do better when played regularly, meaning maybe 2/3 or 3/4 time minimum; not a few can scarcely do much at all without such play frequency. In the few brief spells when Schierholtz has had reasonably regular play, he has performed well, quite well. Regrettably, those spells are too few and too short to enable the drawing of a solid conclusion that he is really a good player, but they are strongly suggestive of it.
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I think the argument got off track somewhere. Nobody said that Nate was the answer. Anybody who said that would be foolish. The original discussion was over whether or not it was worthwhile to pursue Guillen with Nate on the roster. Neither player is all that good. Neither player is the answer. And if they are, I’d hate to be the team with that question. It’s never been about “Does Nate Schierholtz put this team over the top?” Because, no, he doesn’t.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Nate had his chance.
Really? When?
It’s an old debate.
Yes, and if you bothered to look at what’s been said around here about it, you’ll maybe get an idea of why a lot of people here still think it’s a good point.
If anyone is going to rip Boch over what he has done this season while in first place they deserved to get ridiculed by me.
Oh! That’s right! I completely forgot about the old rule about how if a manager’s team is in first place, it’s because of him and never possibly in spite of him and we, as lowly fans, dare not question him.
Feel free to ponder your life choices/decisions on how you spend your time on a baseball blog though. It’s amusing.
Glad to have your approval! And I aim to amuse. :)
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wait for a few hours
When this SD-LA game finishes, the Giants will be a 1/2 game back. Then you can feel free to criticize Bochy.
My mom: "I see so many Giants fans on TV at Petco, it's like you're at Pac Bell."
Me: "Almost, just with a substantially greater amount of douchebags."
I don’t need the end result to justify my opinions though. Criticizing a manager for making a poor choice should be independent of the result. We won last night. I still think Velez as a defensive replacement in a one run game was an incredibly stupid choice.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no problems with criticizing a bad mistake
but I do have a problem with criticizing the choice of one player of another, especially since the choices are not that obvious
People have the right to criticize. If you have a problem with that then I don’t know what to tell you.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
LOL, this is coming dangerously close to the point where he’s basically just criticizing us for criticizing.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone has an equal right to criticize
It’s just my opinion as to the legitimacy of those criticisms..
Well it wasn’t. But you just had to go there, Dr., didn’t you??
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
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Half man
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My mom: "I see so many Giants fans on TV at Petco, it's like you're at Pac Bell."
Me: "Almost, just with a substantially greater amount of douchebags."
What? That’s a ridiculously arbitrary line to draw. If Bochy decides to play Ishi over Huff for the rest of the season he deserves criticism. And I’m sorry, but waiting for “obvious” choices to present themselves as alternatives isn’t exactly the smartest managing idea.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Baseball statistics are oddly available to anyone who wants to look at them through the magic of the internet. Or they can just stay ignorant. Whatever.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
You did amuse me!
You got a rise out of me too!
Yes!!!
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
No! Don’t insert it! That’s just what he wants you to do!
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by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, okay. I was about to write “The Giants offense is as flat as WalrusMan’s date tomorrow” and call it a post-game thread, but then I thought that might be in poor taste."
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 22, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
It’s like you were waiting for the right moment to lay that one out.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
"My god!"
“Th… That’s the Overlord’s music!”
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
"the old rule about how if a manager’s team is in first place, it’s because of him and never possibly in spite of him"
Recc’d that one. Sparky Anderson was one of the very nicest men one could ever meet, and dumb as a rock. But he is, in the collective mind of baseball, one of the all-time great managers. As he once remarked in my presence, smiling and puffing on his pipe, “It’s amazing how smart a manager gets when he has good players.” Part of his nicenes was his humility.
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Yes
Noe many at bats did he have before the all star break this year? Look it up Nerd!
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
OK...
160 AB’s. About 10.6 at bats per week over 15 weeks, or about 1.9 at bats per game.
In contrast, Guillen has had 106 AB’s (not including tonight) in just over a month.
Nate’s WAR for 2010 +0.8 and a UZR/150 of 20.3
Guillen WAR (with the Giants) +0.1 and UZR/150 of (12.6)
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You weren’t actually supposed to look it up.
Nerd.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I was just hoping statistical evidence might derail the dispute.
/ nerd
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That's adorable
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Wait till you read the comment about how Panda “isn’t doing his job”!
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
A bone to pick
If anyone is going to rip Boch over what he has done this season while in first place they deserved to get ridiculed by me.
You know what? No one deserves to be ridiculed by you. No one. Not even our most worthless posters who have been banned. Not even Dodgers.
Your “ridicule” is nothing more than pointing and laughing. I know many 12-13 year olds with low reading/comprehension levels who can do the same.
I wouldn’t be posting this if you at least had some creativity. Or perhaps if you had shared some sort of counter-argument.
I see that you attempted one a little below but the door got slammed on that pretty quick. Come with something a little stronger before you start ridiculing others.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Not to play devils advocate here, but I’ve probably engaged in some Dodger ridiculing for time to time.
I think the bigger point here is that you can’t really effectively ridicule someone for their opinion unless you can offer good evidence for why it’s stupid. And yelling “we’re in first place!!!!” over and over again doesn’t really meet that burden.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
You can ridicule Dodgers. The troll can’t.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Shut up
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
Well you put him in his place
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
DAMN WHAT A SHOT!
HOLY TOLEDO!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 22, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
You Obviously Missed The Joke
But that’s cool.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I Believe thats why the economy is the way it is.
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
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"So you know more about Baseball than Botch."
It is not difficult to know more about baseball than Bruce Bochy. Bochy is no doubt a kind, well-intentioned man, but not the sharpest knife in the drawer, and what he believes about baseball is a set of things with its roots—pfui, with its entirety—in the days well before logical analysis of baseball revealed things that are common knowledge today, except that “common” as used here does not include hands, old and new, who are unwilling or unable to absorb the new understandings.
Someone who knows only the old standards will be right, when he is (which will be a majority of the time), by luck alone; someone who understands the new standards will be right, when he or she is (which will be almost all the time), because he or she is using rational, practical, working yardsticks for evaluating talent and situations.
People operating on the RBIs/HRs theory of offense will not always be wrong, because batters who are truly valuable will, much of the time, also be batters who do have impressive HR and RBI totals; but sometimes batters of substantial value will not have big “ribeyez and dingers” totals, and sometimes batters with big totals in those stats will not be particularly valuable.
Even some of the modern analytic methods are not definitive, because the art is constantly progressing; these days, the biggest open question is the relative importance of fielding skills, and how to properly measure those skills. But things like how runs contribute to winning, and what stats contribute how much to scoring or allowing runs, that’s decades old.
To assume that because someone is a professional that they necessarily know their job very well can lead to much grief. Though things have been evolving in baseball for a few decades now, it remains so that most field managers and quite a few front offices are really rather ignorant of how the business to which they have given their lives actually works.
And yes, my baseball resume can beat up your baseball resume.
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by owlcroft on Sep 22, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 9 recs
/owlcroft’d
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually knew this was coming when he mentioned Bochy’s “baseball knowledge.”
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Me too. I was thinking, “Where the FUCK is owlcroft? He’s going to have so much fun with this!”
And then there he was.
I wonder if he can read my mind or something . . .
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
That was an incredible post by owlcroft
I also agree with all the things you said above.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 22, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I see now that the delay of his response was due to the effort he put into that post. And the last line is still epic.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously
Sabork’d broken down in a beatiful masterfully written paragraph.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 22, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Well put.
And that last line killed me. :D
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Sabean delenda est?
My mom: "I see so many Giants fans on TV at Petco, it's like you're at Pac Bell."
Me: "Almost, just with a substantially greater amount of douchebags."
In fact, he did not.
He just remembers oddments of history, and knows where Wikipedia resides on the web.
Sabean delenda est!
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Fuckin' Carthage.
Always causin’ a ruckus.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
well, darn
Apologies. I’ve had good luck with that one before.
I took high school Latin and I suspect my teacher was a pedophile!
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 22, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Suspect or know?
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
He once drew a picture of diaper-clad children chasing each other with whips on the chalkboard while we took a test. He would aways hand back quizzes and tests saying ‘here are your testes back’.
He was, as I was informed by a classmate who had spent a year at the seminary where this teacher lived, a raging alcoholic, and frequently told us to ‘walk the Roman mile’ when he was hung over, meaning we got a second lunch period.
He told us in no uncertain terms that for a bottle of Johnny Walker Black he would give you a B (but an A you had to earn). I believe one of my classmates took him up on it.
Oddly, he was one of my favorite teachers – a completely wacked out, individual, entertaining presence in a very structured, authoritarian system that demanded conformity above all.
But no, I don’t actually know if that’s what you’re asking.
semper ubi sub ubi
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2010 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions
semper ubi sub ubi
lacuna quo vivo
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 23, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
What you have just said...
Also, I will beat your baseball resume to a bloody pulp, then take a large shit on it.
Also, Botch.
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
I know, I know...
You guys are all correct.
Sabean, Bochy, Guillen, etc…
First place sucks balls. I got it.
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
First place for, what, another hour at most?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Really. And stop trying to insinuate that because the team is (momentarily) in first there’s nothing to disagree with. There are certain changes that could be made that might make this a better team. I’m not going to stay quiet about them just because we’re currently in first.
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"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Wrong
We have to be quiet for two more innings, while the Giants are in first place. You can’t complain about a first place team!!!
My mom: "I see so many Giants fans on TV at Petco, it's like you're at Pac Bell."
Me: "Almost, just with a substantially greater amount of douchebags."
This whole time
I have been waiting to hear what you whould have done. Maybe I should have asked earlier, but whatever. What would you have changed?
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
A while ago, I might have entertained this question. But it’s become clear from you posts tonight that you’re just here to troll. You’ve demonstrated that you’re not interested in bringing any thoughtful discussion to this board, so I’m not going to bother taking the time to give you an honest answer when you’re just going to make a troll response.
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"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly. So why waste my time?
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"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
/beats up your non-reply into a bloody pulp
//poops on said pulp
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
///buys pulp
My mom: "I see so many Giants fans on TV at Petco, it's like you're at Pac Bell."
Me: "Almost, just with a substantially greater amount of douchebags."
I have a problem
My mom: "I see so many Giants fans on TV at Petco, it's like you're at Pac Bell."
Me: "Almost, just with a substantially greater amount of douchebags."
Aw shit
My mom: "I see so many Giants fans on TV at Petco, it's like you're at Pac Bell."
Me: "Almost, just with a substantially greater amount of douchebags."
Ohhhh...
The Pads! Ahhh!
Oh no, what an awesome team! I’m so scared!
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
Flawless argument!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Finish Him!
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
I stopped being sarcastic about the Padres being a good team once it became clear that they really actually are a good team. It’s fair to be worried about them, especially with one more series against them upcoming.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
10 game losing streak?
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
Not coach by a dunce cap wearing log head?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 22, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
*coached
Also not a team filled with lumberjacks and water buffalo’s.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 22, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
My apologies great master owlcraft
For I have raped the apostrophes.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 23, 2010 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
And still only a half game out of first.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
You want to rate how good a team is based on a loosing streak?
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
/flinch
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
How did I flinch?
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I flinched.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
It was a Galapagos flinch.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 22, 2010 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
It has nothing to do with that
Also, I will beat your baseball resume to a bloody pulp, then take a large shit on it.
That just makes you lose a lot of credibility. He replied with a thought-out and very legitimate response. And you say, that. You’ve definitely won me over.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
TL;DR
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
So you’re just here to stir shit up, then?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
So what if I am?
What are you going to do about it?
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
Ask you to either flesh out your arguments more fully or stop.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Whatever
Bunch of nerds gathering and joining forces Power Rangers style
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
So?
What if I am?
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
What?
Are you going to do about it?
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Just remember, we don’t have a Blue Ranger.
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"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Because the Power Rangers were representing the forces of Might, Right, Truth, and Justice, right?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think your swaying his judgment
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 22, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
You say that like it’s a bad thing
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
/flinch
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
speaking of flinching
Did you see all the new W/B Pokemon pics before Nintendo made everyone take them down?
THERE’S A SEA GODDAMN TURTLE
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Whaaaaaaaaa?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Pokemon Black and White came out in Japan the other day and some sites had pictures of all the new Pokemon. Then Nintendo sent them all letters telling them to take them down (WTF).
Anyway, some of the new ones are fucking weird, but there’s a sea turtle!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Which
pretty much ensures that I’m going to start with either the Pig or the Snake dude. Sorry kind of ugly Sea Otter :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I was kind of hoping to see the other picture. The one where the other two starters are making fun of the otter online.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
WE ALREADY HAVE A PERFECTLY GOOD OTTER POKEMON
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Buizel/Floatzel
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
/intrigued.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
ok
here’s every pokemon ever, including the new ones
http://stuff.veekun.com/bw-montage.png
there’s some weirdass stuff there, like the ice cream cone, but I like quite a few of them as well. And it’s apparently new Pokemon only for the main part of the game until the E4, which I think is a great idea.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Thanks for that link JP...
I always get so lost in the Pokemon subthreads.
Adopted Son: !Matt Downs I'll miss you my son.
Funny looking otter has a drastically different third form.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
hahahahahahahaha oh man
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 22, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Thanks for stopping by
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"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Tris is crazy.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Sep 22, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
Dude’s just a troll.
Is he, perhaps, hokysmokes?
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I figured
You minions would have caught it.
Still, he reminds me of hokysmokes in some ways.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
hokysmokes actually tried to debate. You can see the difference.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Eh, he got off the debate train pretty quick and switched to an “i’m just going to respond with random statistics that are clearly skewed” MO. Then he finished it off with sexist comments.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Some people are into it.
My mom: "I see so many Giants fans on TV at Petco, it's like you're at Pac Bell."
Me: "Almost, just with a substantially greater amount of douchebags."
Have we gotten any stats from manabout, skewed or otherwise? I think he went straight to nonsense.
Though I can see pooppulp becoming a meme.
Pooppulp.
I like it.
“Guys, your bats are pooppulp. You’ve gotta stop screwing the pitching staff like this.”
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I was referring to hkysmksBW but I can see your confussion
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"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
No he didn't
You can’t debate if you never respond to your opponents points and just repeat your own and then insult them.
Good point
I think I just defended a guy who actually told me to “go fuck yourself,” when I was talking about Aaron Rowand and hadn’t talked with the guy in days. Weird.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
So… just out of curiosity… are you just trolling now? Because that would be great to know.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes I am trolling a Giants site as a Giants fan
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
Yes, you are. Just because we’re all Giants fans here doesn’t mean we march in lockstep with the organization. “My team, right or wrong” went out the window when fans got internet access and started thinking for themselves.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
True
but I’ll give my team the benifit of the doubt when in a pennant race when there isn’t any glaring fuck-ups. But you keep nitpicking and bitching though. Your good at it.
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
We are actually. And it hard to give a team the benifit of the doubt when they have scored 1 run in two games
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 22, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
1 win in 2 games too!
This team is built on pitching. Yes it fucking TORTURE, but lets not all start blaming Torres for his appendix bursting.
Fucking pussy btw. Hang with ’em!
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
Rob Dibble?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 22, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Now, THIS is amusing
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Blaming by association
Torres is out. Who was a Sabean farm system guy. All of a sudden, we have a bunch of pretty interchangeable outfielders and no lead off hitter. So of course it is Bochy and Guillens fault for not knowing how to win. Plus Cain should understand the science of winning too.
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
Torres was a Sabean farm system guy?
That’s a liberal definition of farm system guy that you’ve got there.
Let’s just say he was probably at one time on a farm and them Sabean was all like, “Damn! You can play a motherfuckin’ center field!” and Torress was all like, “Hells ya bitch!, lets do his damn thin in your system!”
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
Cool story
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Sep 22, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope we can hear it again in the near future.
My mom: "I see so many Giants fans on TV at Petco, it's like you're at Pac Bell."
Me: "Almost, just with a substantially greater amount of douchebags."
Chapter 2
Boch is all like, “Torrey you should start and play center and beat lead off. Then Torres is all like, Yesss!!! Finally someone sees my talent! I’m doing so good!”. Then he bitch slaps Rowand and makes him a steak for every RBI he gets. Torres goes on to be awesome, until…
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
Cliffhanger!
Letter2 has some competition!
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 22, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
OK, at this point you’re just making shit up.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 22, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
OVER THE LINE!
Mark it zero, Dude.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
So basically you're saying
You have no value to provide whatsoever? Good to know.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Yet, curiously . . .
. . . you know what the very last line of it says.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Sabean, Bochy, Guillen, etc. are on the Giants.
The Giants are in first place (at the moment).
Ergo, Sabean, Bochy, Guillen are why the Giants are in first place.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You’re an odd bird.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
UR R A BIRD!
It's called talent. I just have it. I can't explain it. You either have it or you don't. - BLB
I’m m am not.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, begin.
You play white: make the first move. Document your credentials.
(I know this is a game adults don’t play, and I’m a sucker for entering it, but remember Didactylos.)
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I got 5 on owl.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
by DrDC on Sep 22, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
/everyone knows better than to take this bet
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
One in a million chances?
My mom: "I see so many Giants fans on TV at Petco, it's like you're at Pac Bell."
Me: "Almost, just with a substantially greater amount of douchebags."
Oh, then I don’t want him to go now.
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"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, VERY well done.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh man, he’s a pool shark but for baseball cred
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Sep 23, 2010 6:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t do very well on my OWLs, so I don’t think I’m ever going to be an Auror.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
What? Nobody?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
:(
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm with you!
Last week I did the math and figured out that Harry just turned 30 about a month ago.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm curious as to how this math was done?
I’m not trying to be smart. This is a legitimate question.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Rowling is pretty cagey about identifying details, but:
Each book starts with his birthday, in late July or early August So in his second year he attends Nearly-Headless Nick’s 500th deathday party. The cake at that party says Nick was executed on October 31st, 1492, so the 500th anniversary party happened in 1992. Thus, for Harry to be both 12 and at that party, he must have been born in 1980.
Like me! :D
Mind you, there are numerous inconsistencies in this theory; when our heroes first meet N-H Nick in Book 1, he says sadly that he hasn’t eaten in “nearly 400 years,” and IIRC Rowling mentions a Playstation at some point before it could’ve existed.
So I’m just pushing my favorite theory for the lulz. I once wrote an essay in college proving that Robert Frost’s “Mending Wall” was actually about European geopolitics leading into WWI.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
There are any number of magical circumstances that could potentially account for NHN eating posthumously. And “playstation” was a wizard term for… something… and then Sony ripped it off.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s pretty much what I decided, too. 1980 it is!
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too
born in 1980 that is
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I was just going to ask you to translate :/
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s leviOHsa, not levioSAH.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Harry Potters out of style
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 22, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
:(
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
:(
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t worry. People will start getting your jokes again in 57 days.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 22, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Snape wouldn’t let you take potions
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by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm rereading the series now, actually.
I just talked my gf into tackling it.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm on Goblet of Fire (my favorite).
The Triwizard Tournament is just about to start.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, I play prison rules chess...
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/shanks owlcroft with bishop
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 22, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
You fuck your roommate?
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LOL
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Couple responses
First, managing is about more than what you do for th nine innings. Its about how you handle the clubhouse etc. Bochy is obviously very good at that. Second, Bochy isn’t responsible for the roster, Sabean is. Third, I’d be curious to know what you base the assertion that he is stuck on HR’s and RBI’s as the be all end all. I’m not saying you are wrong – I’d just like to see the proof.
Bochy drives me nuts a lot. Indeed his unwillingness to sit Sandoval is, imo, hurting the Ginats big time right now. As is his unwillingness to give take signs. That’s right – fucking take signs. At this point, Sandoval should be on orders to take a strike – particularly with runners on base. I’d give the same order to Cody Ross, Freddie Sanchez and Guillen. Uribe is another problem – but he actually has a modicum of success swinging at the first pitch.
Burrell Posey and Huff all are a bit more selective.
As I slowly move back to the point – bochy has ovearall done a good job this year. He has his team 1/2 game out with 10 to play. And this is a very flawed team.
I’d like to see what he could do with some speed and some balance in the lineup. A couple high OBP guys that can run would sure be nice.
I don't get too worked up over Bochy
I think most managers are just a means to an end – and unless they are glaringly idiotic, their impact over the course of a season is marginal.
This offensive lineup is still an anchor around Brian Sabean’s neck. He caught lightning with certain individuals, but overall we are still seeing the same sub-par type of offense that’s been a Giants’ hallmark for the last five seasons.
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Not sure Bochy is "obviously very good" in the clubhouse
I think it’s pretty hard for us, as outsides, to know one way or another. From what they say to the media, his players generally seem pretty comfortable with him, but it would take something extreme for them to say otherwise. The Hanley Ramirez/Fredi Gonzalez dustup comes to mind, but that’s the exception rather than the rule.
Schierholtz and Rowand have accepted their limited roles well, which might be considered in Bochy’s favor, but he wasn’t able to achieve the same with Lewis or Frandsen or Molina.
It seems clear that Bochy is not a terrible “clubhouse manager”, but I don’t see the evidence for him being clearly above average.
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by EliminateMe on Sep 23, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t this more of a Sabean problem than a Bochy problem though? Sabez is the one filling our team with the HR/RBI guys who lack OBP.
I guess I’m missing the point.
by GrooveGiant on Sep 23, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t really know. I would have been fine finding out.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
And I think the team would have been fine, too.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was pretty much my point. I would have been okay without Guillen because he doesn’t really make a difference.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Like on Sunday?
He could have made a difference today as well, if Panda doesn’t hit a ball to the wrong side of the field with him on second and nobody out. Every time the team loses, the anti Guillen nonsense starts again. Every loss is his fault.
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Yeah, and Todd Linden totally hit RBIs for the Giants, too. That’s what happens when you play guys: occasionally they contribute positively to the team. But “what he did on Sunday” doesn’t make Guillen a better overall option than Nate. That’s a ridiculous argumentative turn.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually Gillen is swinging the bat farily well right now
The problem is that the Giants have several Guillens in the lineup. Guys that grip and rip with no clue: Ross, Guillen, Sandoval and Uribe. That’s 4. Sanchez isn’t exactly a high OBP guy either – but he also has little power so I don’t include him.
Burrell isn’t included cause he walks. Posey and Huff are the only well rounded hitters in the lineup. And of course they are right now the slowest team I’ve ever seen.
The problem is that the Giants have several Guillens in the lineup. Guys that grip and rip with no clue..
Situational game awareness. This is one of the tasks that Bochy struggles with. As good as he is with the pitching staff, he is that bad with the hitters. Take a pitch Giants hitters ! Hit to the right side with a runner on third ! Stop trying to hit a HR every AB !
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I don’t really see the connection between those issues and Bochy.
by GrooveGiant on Sep 23, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
As the Manager of the team is it not Bochys responsibility to set the line up, the structure and strategy of the team ?
Does he not meet with his hitting instructors and base coaches to outline the preferred actions (strategy) of the hitters in game situations ? Is Flannery not relaying signs to the hitters ? Do the Giants not have a “take” sign ? Is there a HR sign ?
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On a below-average offense, he becomes the culprit because his defense and speed (which have cost us runs before). I think part of it is that he has barely been with the team and, outside of Sunday, hasn’t contributed a really big hit to win a game. A new player is a lot easier to like after he hits a late-inning HR to win a game.
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Panda has to sit
He should be benched the rest of the year. Period. He is going to need the off season to try to figure it out. But watching him flail like a little leauger at anything within 2 feet of the strike zone (particularly with runners on) has run its course. Play Fontenot.
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Well, I wouldn’t have given up on Nate after one slump, but then again I’m not a guy who let Rowand, Winn and Renteria out there night after fucking night as they slumped and proved they were shit on a stick repeatedly.
I’d take Ross over Guillen. Apparently he was available. I’d take anyone who can run. BECAUSE THIS IS A TEAM THAT SHOULD BE PLAYING SMALL BALL. Guillen should be a DH, nothing else. He’s painful to watch and he only has one hit that has really helped this team during this pennant race.
I’d also rather have Travis at first and Huff in the outfield. But that’s just me. I just want the guys who play the best and suit the team the best.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
There is . . .
. . . no team that should be playing small ball. Small ball is based on the idea that if you have an offensively weak team, you should follow a strategy that makes them weaker yet. Earl Weaver won what he won, and Gene Mauch won what he won.
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It's not so much about "playing small ball", but when an opportunity exists, such as
making the “right” kind of out or in getting the runner from third to score without a hit, those are things that fall into “small ball”, those types of things the Giants are not doing well.
If you are playing the right way
then those things matter less
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Bunk.
You have to be able to score in ways besides three run homers. No one is suggesting they play like the ’62 Dodgers. But part of a BALANCED offensse is being able to move a runner over (hitting to the right side with no one out and a runner on second does not mean you are throwing your at-bat away, you stillhave the opportunity to get a hit).
When you have a bunch of ploders, finding ways to stay out of DP’s is nice, dont ya think?
When you have a pitching stafff that has held a team to less than 3 runs for 16 striaght games down the stretch, it may make a bit of sense to play for one run here and there – don’t ya think?
Some activity on the bases – an occasional hit and run also makes sense.
Absolutes don’t work. We are not talking about a philospohy from day 1. We are talking about trying to squeeze out an extra run here and there over the next 10 games.
Ah.
I see: we’re not talking about drawing to inside straights—we are talking about drawing to this inside straight.
Small ball is a strategy. Its associated tactics include the sac bunt, the stolen base attempt, the hit-and-run; they do not include hitting to the right side or speed on the bases. In short, they comprise the idea that it is wise to make or risk outs, but certain kinds of outs, outs that supposedly advance runners. Hitting to the right side to move a runner over is not giving up an out, any more than hitting a sac fly is, because the batter is trying to do something that has almost a normal chance of getting a hit: he is only surrendering a little to, as the case may be, go to right or loft the ball into the outfield. That is not “small ball”; bunting is.
If absolutes don’t work, do you draw to inside straights when your gut tells you to? Or do you play the percentages? That’s what smart baseball is: playing the percentages. That’s why Earnshaw Cook’s groundbreaking book was entitled Percentage Baseball.
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I'd rather have a farm system...
That produces hitters. Then Sabean wouldn’t constantly be forced into desperate FA signings like Guillen, Ross, Scott and Rent.
2010 has been a year when Sabean has largely come up roses in his acquisitions. Usually, he hasn’t been so lucky.
But even when Sabean has a good year, he still can’t put a good offense together without a productive farm system.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
Guillen was not the problem in this game
Buster 3 SO…could not put the ball in play in the 1st
Panda not being able to advance Guillen to 3rd with no outs..
2 runs right there
That double play Guillen hit into was pretty ridiculous though. Soooooooooooooo sloooooooooooooow.
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He hit a shot!
That the shortstop barely handled!
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Yeah, I agree he wasn’t the problem. I’m just getting sick of the station-to-station baseball the Giants play, where they can’t score from 1st on a double (twice), and then the Cubs score from second on a wild pitch.
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No, he didn’t. Should have been safe at first easily
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When you come up with a runner on first in the late innings of a close game, a hard grounder to short is not something to brag about.
A hard hit grounder in that situation has an outstanding chance of becoming a double play. It happens even to the best sometimes, but it’s still a failure.
And a fly ball has a high probability to get caught
I just don’t get your point.
It was a well hit ball and a good play by the shortstop.
Yes, but major-league infielders get to the majority of grounders, even the well-hit ones. And with Guillen running, almost every grounder they get to is going to be a double play. If he hits the ball in the air, it’s a little more likely that he’ll make an out, but it’s far less likely that he makes two, and the chance that he gets extra bases goes way up.
Yeah!
GB/FB splits mean nothing! Nothing!
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Well it also has something to do with where in the swing the bat meets the ball, what part of the bat meets what part of the ball, how fast the bat swing is, how fast the ball is traveling, and what kind of pitch it is. So I’m not sure if “luck” isn’t a slight oversimplification. Possibly even a little misleading.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
And Guillen was still doing his best impression of Molina out there on the basepaths
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s ridiculous. If they hit balls that should be doubles and only get to first, that’s a problem. And if they live and die by the home run and don’t hit at least 50 in a season, that’s a problem.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Think about it.
The question is not, and never for an instant should be, what someone else would have gotten on this or that ball. You look at the numbers that a player puts up, and the possibility, or probability, that he could have bigger numbers were he faster is right out of it. Are the actual numbers he is putting up satisfactory? That is the one and only question.
For Guillen as a Giant, there is no clear answer owing to SSS. Two days ago, he looked great; a day ago he looked pretty good; tomorrow he’ll probably look sort of OK; the day after that remains to be seen, but it could go any way—up, down, sideways. But to say what anybody else would have done with the balls he has hit is comically—or perhaps tragically—mistaken: it’s what he has done with them that matters, for better or for worse.
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I wasn’t exactly making the argument here of Guillen over Nate. I was more disputing calbear’s argument that if they hit the ball hard, we should be happy. There are so few absolutes in baseball, people are always trying to create more in the face of such contrary evidence.
So I agree with you and I still believe that Guillen was a poor choice.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't see a problem
with being happy that the ball is hit hard. What more can you expect from a hitter?
Hits.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course, HRs preferrably
However, I just don’t get how you can complain and cry about a guy hitting the ball really hard but making an out.
Swinging at crap out of the strike zone and not having a clue at the plate – complain away, but when a guy smacks the ball but makes an out (or two) I just don’t get the griping.
Uribe usually hits the ball hard when he makes contact. Have you seen his line lately?
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
This discussion was about a hard hit ball
Not an overall offensive ability. I don’t gripe about Uribe’s hard hit balls that make outs either.
Sorry, I don’t mean to belabor the point, but I get a little sick of the Guillen bashing when he doesn’t deserve it and I was a big fan of his acquisition either.
WASN'T
I wasn’t a big fan of his acquisition either.
It wasn’t Guillen bashing though. My point was that rating player contributions by how hard they hit a ball is completely pointless. And I also think Guillen was a mistake. These two points may have crossed on this occasion, but they are also independent of each other.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Last time I looked . . .
. . . that was legal and socially acceptable.
Myself, I, too, much prefer Schierholtz over Guillen, but that doesn’t equate to “Guillen is an unmitigated disaster”, which is what many here are saying.
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“Unmitigated disaster” is a little far. I’m thinking more along the lines of “pointless”
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry . . .
. . . wasn’t meaning to suggest this or that person. Pointless, yes, I could go with that.
Ah, it just occurs to me that we’re both overlooking an obvious point: Schierholtz, like Ross, is just a fringe extra bench player—the Biggest Head in the Bay Area—a profesional baseball man!—says so.
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You have no problem with players that convert doubles to singles and can’t go first-to-third?
Oh…. kaaaaay….
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
No...
I don’t as long as the player hits…I prefer that than someone who flails and cannot lay off a slider going away…
Oh, yeah.
That’s how we all remember Bengie: “a master of plate discipline.”
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, him having good years with the Angels was of great benefit to us.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I disagree with your inclusion of 2009. With a .265/.285/.442/.727 line and a 68/13 K/BB ratio, he was far from pretty good offensively.
His speed and defense were also sub-par.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
OPS+
2007 86
2008 98
2009 87
So he was almost average for one of those three years. The other two, he sucked.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Bengie was definitely not pretty good at any time with the Giants. He was average.
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How do either of those people make Bengie Molina a better or worse player?
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Adrian Gonzalez would be just as good on the New York Yankees as he would on the San Diego Padres.
What in the world are you getting at?
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I think he’s saying Bonds and Gonzalez (and other good players) make those around them better. Which is arguable. Also, pretty funny to consider Molina being so good at the plate that he makes hitters around him better.
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by theghostofjasonellison on Sep 22, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
He would prefer it if the other hitters were battered, amirite?
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 22, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d like to apologize for that. Fatty jokes are lazy humor.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 22, 2010 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Not quite.
His 2008 was his only fairly decent SF year, and even that was quite a ways from “outstanding” or any such term. His 2009 and partial 2010 were simply dreadful.
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But dude...
Big money one of the best clutch hitters in the game!!!
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by sfgiants420 on Sep 22, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
True.
But baseballs, those he couldn’t hit to save his life. He did, though, destroy a lot of old automobiles.
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And pile up garbage time ribeyez higher than his post game platter.
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by sfgiants420 on Sep 23, 2010 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
You have a problem (let it sink in)...
with players who hit the ball hard.
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Oh, yeah.
That’s how we all remember Bengie: “a player who hit the ball hard.”
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Not in 2010
Sabes and Boch saw that and got rid of him for an arm that we are using down the stretch. 2008 and 2009 he carried the fucking team! So soon you forget.
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He carried the team, all right.
2008 and 2009 he carried the fucking team!
Bochy really botched it up in 2007 and 2008 with those juggernaut teams.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
You would rather have lost 100 both years?
Bocock?
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No, I think he’s saying he would have preferred a better manager. And a lot less Molina.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
What cracks me up about the molina trade
Is that some people think that bruce bochy saw that bengie molina had no value to the team whatsoever and was hurting them in every way possible and him and sabean acknowledged he needed to be traded so buster could play everyday. I’m pretty sure if nolan ryan and john daniels weren’t so convinced molina would upgrade their team with his elite game calling abilities and “power and run producing bat” he’d still be here starting 3 out of every 5 games.
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by sfgiants420 on Sep 22, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I daresay that's so.
The rise of Nolan Ryan in that organization is excellent news for 29 other clubs.
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We should all love the rangers
They took molina from us when no one else would have and gave us a good prospect. They also prevented sabean from picking up all the sub .300 OBP all star team known as guzman, cantu, and francouer that sabean was licking his lips over. I’m shocked jorge cantu is not a giant especially with his ridiculous RBI total in the first month of the season.
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by sfgiants420 on Sep 23, 2010 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Pfui.
“When you come up with a runner on first in the late innings of a close game, a hard grounder to short is not something to brag about.”
A batter hits the ball hard. What happens after that is not under his control. That’s why they invented BABIP. Right-handed pull hitters are going to hit into double plays: that comes with the territory, unless they all start changing their batting style so that they are no longer pull hitters. When you take on a RH pull hitter, you take on those occasional DPs along with whatever else he brings you. If you don’t want the DPs, you don’t get the power; if you want the power, you get the DPs. Get over it.
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Over time, maybe. But there’s not much you can do after you hit the ball.
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What is considered a good BABIP?
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League average is supposed to be .300.
And as GiantPain noted, there’s really not a “good” BABIP, unless the player is hitting well and has a league average BABIP, which suggests that his performance could be sustainable.
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.350 is good
.250 is bad
And hitter BABIPs are persistent.
Not really. Bonds had plenty of below average babips since he hit so many home runs. Jose Bautista has a .240 babip this year and he’s been one of the better hitters this year.
They tend to be persistent, but year to year fluctuations are indicative of luck factoring into performance. Robinson Cano started the year on a tear, batting .400 through the end of April. He also had a BABIP of .377. Since then, his BABIP has dropped to .329, much closer to his career total of .322. The rest of his numbers have dropped along with it, and he is having an above average but not unreasonably good season.
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"Tend to be"
As noted, above, the average is around .300, so a long-term (multi-season) BABIP of .350 indicates either an awful lot of good luck or a hitting style that tends to drop in gfor hits more often than normal, and the converse for a long-term .250. But even men with tendencies can vary a fair bit from them over a single season.
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2005 .319
2006 .350
2007 .390
2008 .337
2009 .384
2010 .358
Oo, honorable mention
Very close. Bengie is pretty rank, too:
i wasnt reading any of what you guys were saying. this is for the 2010 year?
then i guess
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I should have realized the beginning of
2010 should have been better.
they're not Giants players
I thought of the player who I most expect to post a consistent, high BABIP. He does. That’s the first. Then I thought of his teammate with the reputation for the most flail at the plate. Turns out his BABIP flails consistently as well.
no, but Ruth is pretty fascinating
He has a .340 career BABIP, which is good — but lower than his career batting average.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 22, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Josh Hamilton/Vlad?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
?
Pitcher BABIPs, with rare exceptions, move fairly quickly to the league average because they are not pitching to the same batter over and over: their BABIPs are a composite of those of the batters they face.
That said, even batter BABIPs—measured over some reasonable period—don’t deviate from average by huge amounts. Fielders put away about 70% of balls in play, and not a lot of batters can hit so as to vary that percentage much.
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This makes sense to me. Batter’s BABIP will fluctuate a lot more than a pitchers because they have a much smaller sample size over the same period of time.
sure
But good power hitters pretty uniformly have higher BABIPs, speed guys who know what they’re doing (part of which happens after they hit the ball, I feel oddly compelled to note) have higher BABIPs, and slaphitting hackers who are slow out of the box will have lower ones.
BABIP was invented to analyze pitchers. Given a little thinking it is a useful tool to gauge hitter luck as well, but absent that little thinking it’s misspecified on the hitter side.
When you take on a RH pull hitter, you take on those occasional DPs along with whatever else he brings you. If you don’t want the DPs, you don’t get the power; if you want the power, you get the DPs. Get over it.
You’ve just restated my point. Guillen is who he is, and he doesn’t deserve extra credit for having hit the ball hard rather than soft on one of those occasions on which he hurts the team. I don’t want the power, because the DPs (and the low OBP, and the poor fielding) aren’t worth it.
And of course there’s a big difference between hitting the ball hard on the ground and hitting the ball hard in the air.
Which last is not perfectly controllable.
As rephrased, your case is plausible. But it is not a fully settled point whether his assets outweight his liabilities or vice-versa, and that leaves the matter open for reasonable argument. The crux, though, is that it is not reasonable to criticize him for having hit into that particular DP, because he hit the ball hard to where it very nearly went through; there is no guarantee that anybody else, from Babe Ruth to Barry Bonds, could have done better in that one at-bat. It was not a poor performance.
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David Wells?
That was just all bad.
That game is making me go insane, I almost said “Go Dodgers!” earlier.
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I actually just said that.
That’s how bad it is.
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by sadison bummedgarner on Sep 22, 2010 7:39 PM PDT reply actions
I was betting they weren't strikes..
But looked at BrooksBaseball and they were in the zone. Everything was pretty much within 2-3 inches of the bottom of the zone on those pitches.
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So much . . .
. . . shoulda, coulda, woulda. How many Giants batters could have turned that game? Lots of ’em, Jack, lots of ’em.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 7:43 PM PDT reply actions
Shocking that KFC isn't sponsoring giants TV broadcasts
Considering a certain giants love for the KFC double down.
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by sfgiants420 on Sep 22, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Not yet.
He was 15-1 at the All-Star Break, and has gone 4-5 since.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
LaRoche 2-run HR!
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I think he just made up for it.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Oops. Reply fail.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Padres just tied the game on classic Padre-ball… broken bat infield single by Eckstein to 3rd, ill-advised throw in the dirt allows Headley to score, Loney’s throw trying to nail him gets away… Eckstein to 2B…
oh, and now Tejada hits 2-run HR… 3-1 Padres
really? i mean, really? what a fucking joke of a team. they look like they are throwing games just to spite us
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
of course it did. since espn would prefer to show the 2-1/2 hour delayed yanks game, i cant watch.
looking at gameday, why didnt furcal just throw to 1st and get eckstein out?
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
how close was Ross’ double to going out in the 8th?
any idea why Ford wasn’t running for Ish? ironic, considering Borks love of “having speed for a gapper”.
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I think they wanted to save Ford if another hitter got on, so the tying run could be the faster guy.
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by Tay on Sep 22, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
that’s what you have burriss or velez for, then. to not use one of the 3 fast guys, is outright stupid. i hope someone asks bork about it postgame, and he says “well, if there’s a gapper… oh wait… um… can i take back that statement?”
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
True
They should have used somebody faster than Ish. Maybe Whiteside?
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by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I can score on a gapper and buster can’t like you said in Colorado, remember bruce!?!?!
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by sfgiants420 on Sep 22, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably saving him . . .
. . for the potential tying run.
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what should i watch???
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by sadison bummedgarner on Sep 22, 2010 7:48 PM PDT reply actions
You know how MLB Network goes "Inside the Park?"
Right now I could watch the Rays@Yankees on MLB, ESPN, or YES.
Overkill, non?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 7:49 PM PDT reply actions
Wait, how could the Giants have been shut out?
Bowker went 3-3 with a homer.
That beats what Rowand and Ross have been doing.
Plus, I didn’t say I wanted Bowker. The deal actually seems to have worked out for the Giants.
Still, at some point the pitching will not be able to keep it up. And I don’t like to hear that the games that really matter are the head to head match-ups. Sure, those are two games in the standings, but these games mean a ton and the Giants really need them. Especially since the Rockies will probably win out the last weekend.
it’s gonna go down to the wire, that’s for sure. i wouldn’t count out STL/COL on the last weekend, though. STL destroys teams with winning records vs losing like crazy to losers. with the season gone, we’ll see if they still take that same approach
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd like that to be true.
But STL is Dee-You-Enn DONE. They just had to cut a guy for tardiness. Seriously, unconditional release. That’s a team that stopped trying. They just want the season to end.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Considering the Rockies have knocked the Cards out of the playoffs a couple times recently, I think they will play them hard to try and keep them out.
as for other teams, i think STL is done
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Fingers crossed!
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, tardiness and general being bad at baseball.
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Felipe Lopez was muy malo, es verdad. But it seems to me that you have to work pretty hard to get an outright release after rosters have expanded and there’s only 12 games left in the season. The only possible reason is the Cards felt it was addition by subtraction in the clubhouse.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, since there was no value on the field the math was easy for them.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2010 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Bork shoulda used Ford to run for Ish, thats a run. Coupled with the run we should have easily had in the 1st, coupled with the error that gave them a run in the 5th, that’s just a shit game all around
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
1) sanchez shouldnt have gone out for the 5th, not with his spot due up that previous inning (PH), so the error/run probably doesnt ever happen, not to mention he wasn’t shutting them down so it’s not a big issue
2) Bork should have put Ford at 1st after the walk to Ish, so he would score on a “gapper”… the one time Bork’s own logic works against him.
3) Panda never should have been in the lineup, someone else gets Guillen over, and the run scores off Uribe sac fly in the 2nd.
so we probably should have won 2-1, 3-1 if Posey gets that run in in the 1st.
I know woulda shoulda coulda doesnt equal runs, I’m just pointing this out, that with proper managing, we could have had a shot to win.
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Disagree
1) Nothing was happening in the 5th…Sanchez came up with 2 outs in the inning
2) Agree with this.
3) It’s not Bochy’s fault that Panda can’t hit to the right side or hit a fly ball…
i know nothing was happening in the 5th, I’m just pointing things out (mostly in hindsight), so #1 really wasn’t avoidable. i think down by 1, pitchers spot up, pitcher doesn’t really have his stuff, no issue with taking him out.
But remember, the rally in the 8th started with 2 outs as well, so take that as you may that there was nothing doing in the 5th with 2 outs.
#3, if you’re bochy, do you really have confidence that Pablo can move that runner over? he never, never comes through when you need it. always random singles, meaningless HRs with no one on base, etc.
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
In the 5th
Giants were down 1-0…no reason to pull Sanchez out with 2 outs…with 4 outs left…you do everything you can…
As for Panda, he’s a MLB player…he needs to do his job…
IRL LOL!
…he needs to do his job…
Like Armando Benitez?
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Panda didn't even have to get a hit...
just get the ball to the right side or a relatively deep fly ball
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
panda should not have even been playing. he has been a disaster, both hitting and fielding. how many errors? how many balls ruled hits that he still should have made plays on?
the biggest thing is he can’t move a runner over, can’t hit a sac fly, can’t get a hit with RISP, does the exact opposite of what is needed at any given time
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
The thing about pablo is
I can count at least 10 “infield singles” he’s allowed that were routine plays and should have been scored as an error.
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by sfgiants420 on Sep 22, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
What are you counting them on?
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2010 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
13 Actually
You could say I’m pretty fucking dope.
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by sfgiants420 on Sep 23, 2010 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions
:(
Rude.
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by sfgiants420 on Sep 23, 2010 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions
so if panda does his job (posey is kinda off the hook since he does so much already), and bork PRs for Ish with Ford, we got a tie game and maybe still playing
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
no doubt, posey needed to get that runner in as well. scoring there could have changed the whole tone of the game.
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Moreover . . .
. . . if Superman and some of the rest of the JLA decide to suit up in orange and black, the team wins a lot. And if I win the lottery without even entering, I buy the Giants. And if the sun explodes tomorrow , , , ,
And so it goes.
Panda is, of course (as we all know) dogging it, couldn’t care less about the team or his performance, just waiting for the buffet. Yes? No? (If the latter, why is he a despicable bum compared to the hero he was five months ago?)
No one, probably including Sandoval, knows quite what the matter is, and we’ll all have to wait and see what happens. But to say that he is “not doing his job” as if it were synonymous with “not getting the results both we and he hope for” is septic.
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Agree
I think part of his problem is probably “trying too hard to do a really good job”.
Until further notice, I’m sticking with “played way too much baseball in the last two years.” But that’s obviously as speculative and baseless as anything else.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
This is a good point
He’s been playing like almost year-round hasn’t he?
Outside of “camp Panda”, pretty much.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
If, of course, Wells decides to pitch to Uribe exactly the same with a man on third as otherwise.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
oh yeah, its a given that there are a ton of IFs in there. im just making some points in hindsight, esp the point of Ford PR for Ish. Bork always, always says “well, if there’s a gapper…”, well, it happened.
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
... you can taste it?
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
James Loney
is worse than Travis Ishikawa. Seriously. He’s that bad
Actually, he's not.
TOP 709 vs. 642. But for a first baseman, it scarcely matters: either number is toxic. And extending to career numbers doesn’t make either look much better, especially as Loney’s career value has an artificial-looking boost from his first two part-time (and thus probably platooned) seasons. Neither is MLB-caliber goods.
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Honestly...Panda was the hole in the lineup
It’s becoming embarrassing now and likely to mess with Panda’s head…just put Uribe at 3 and have Grant play SS…
Panda should PH
Leave Uribe at SS
For whatever reason, he looks awful at 3B. He’s competent at SS. Put Grant at 3B.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
Miguel tejada says different from the series in san diego not to long ago.
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by sfgiants420 on Sep 22, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but...
Jonathan Sanchez weighs in from San Diego circa last year.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL THIS
CLANK CLANK
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by sfgiants420 on Sep 23, 2010 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions
D:
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 23, 2010 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Wake me in October.
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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The Giants couldn't manufacture runs if they outsourced them in indonesia.
They break my heart again.
Because of the lead poisoning you’d get from outsourcing run production to the third world, amirite?
(Is Indonesia third world? They seem above that, but it doesn’t seem like they’d make the cut for first world either, and the second world club is pretty much nonexistent these days. I suppose it’s a false, elitist distinction.)
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 23, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d say Indonesia is comfortably in the developing world.
(As I understand it, that is the current preferred nomenclature)
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 23, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Really waiting to hear from PR about how the dude gets no run support. Fuck them and their definition of run support.
im a little afraid of ARI with that second-to-last series of the year coming up. thank god we get them at SF. The COL and SD series will be tough enough
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Arizona > LA
D-Backs are actually playing hard, despite their limitations. Dodgers just rolling over like the pathetic losers they are.
I thought the Giants were supposed to have the advantage with the late season schedule, but no one accounted for a Cubs team that has now gone 18-8 since Piniella retired, and the fact that seemingly 2 out of every 3 Rockies or Padres series for the entire month of Sept. has them playing the stinking Dodgers.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
+1 on this. Arizona is actually playing with some pride, or for some pride. The dodgers, on the other hand, have showed their true colors- a classless team that rolls over for everyone, except us where they align their pitching so we face the brunt of their staff.
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
The first thing the Dodgers have successfully accomplished this year
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Sep 23, 2010 6:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I fear that this thinking has infected the hitters.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2010 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
the lineup is too HR/low average heavy. half, or more, of the Giants lineup is all of nothing, not high OBP guys, so when you have Uribe, Burrell, Guillen, Sandoval all trying to hit HRs, you’re not going to start rallies by stringing together hit after hit. That doesn’t happen with this offense. It’s too “big bat” heavy- which is completely pointless when the HR well temporarily goes dry.
by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
My goodness!
How short a time ago it was that saying that the Giants’ offense was too “homer-happy” would not have even risen to the status of joke! But joke or not, this is not an especially unbalanced attack. Through 22 September, the key data are—
OB% TB% SF .313 .365 NL .316 .361
—where “TB%” is TB/PA, an excellent proxy for what drives in runs.
No big differences: the team is no more “unbalanced” than the NL as a whole.
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Randy Wells...
Randy Wolf…
No more Randys please.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
things like that happen to us a whole lot more than others, or so it seems.
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Randy Jackson
Both the American Idol judge and Michael Jackson’s younger brother probably could.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
What about Randy "Macho Man" Savage?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
who, BTW, is a former minor league baseball player
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I’d rather see COL lose than SD tonight. both losing would be great, but really, COL is more important
tulo and gonzalez have cooled off, or so it seems. the rockies are nothing without them
we pit some really good pitching on them this weekend, while they throw Hammels (dead arm), JDLR (we scored 10 off him last time), and Chacin (mediocre). And in Coors, I’m not gonna worry about our offense.
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
please stop saying these kind of stuff. you said this kind of stuff about milwaukee and the cubs, look at what’s happening……..
by Unitard on Sep 22, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
hey now dont blame me!!! i was just letting you know of the pitching matchups.
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Also we did not score 10 runs agaisnt JLDR last time out
He went 7 innings and gave up 1 run and then cody ross did a jose guillen impression. Clearly you just got aaron cook and JLDR confused since they look so much alike.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 22, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
le da Rosa?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
whoops lol
/fail
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 23, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
the short 2 game series we played at Coors, right before ATL (near beginning of August), we faced JLDR and won 10-0, no? am i mistaken, was that Cook?
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
That was when they decided to remove him from the rotation.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 23, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
wreck'd
Leave the predictions to mornic mlb.com writers.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 22, 2010 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah!
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
THEY TOOK ER JOB!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 23, 2010 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions
“Cooled off” = “left Denver”
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
How do you figure that? Rockies are already 2 out, Padres are tied.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Sure
But the Padres losing does more for the Giants playoff odds than the Rockies losing.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
the Rockies are the most dangerous team though, I’d like to keep them at a safe distance and make it a 2 team race.
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
very true. let us pray that the offense get’s their shit together and puts some semblance of a threat out there, or we will watch the season go down because the streaky team went cold at the last minute
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe this will cheer people up
An article written for the sole purpose of destroying David Eckstein
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
Oh wow
I am something of a connoisseur of David Eckstein hyperbole, and I can say quite confidently that this is some grade-A hydroponic shit. “Ultimate little guy with a big heart,” “winning influence” and “dirt-stained uniform” are all par for the course — kind of hacky, actually. But “if there is no room in baseball for someone like David Eckstein, baseball will lose a piece of its soul” — man. That is gorgeous. That is a shimmering rainbow of poopguage, which is a substance you get when you combine language with poop.
Our love is all of God's money.
Adopted Giant: Daryl "Dealio" Maday - Back in Richmond after a horrific stint in Fresno.
Also
He plays second base by positioning and studying opposing hitters and somehow gets to the right place at the right time.
A fact that is unique to David Eckstein. Robinson Cano plays second base by running in circles, closing his eyes, and trying to feel the ball off the bat. Omar Infante plays second base by attempting to divine, through augury and calf-entrail-spilling, who will hit the ball to him and when. Ian Kinsler plays second base by putting in a little earpiece and having someone whisper to him what to do, like Brando used to do when he no longer bothered to learn his lines. Clint Barmes plays second base like a guitar, picking the entire second base area up and strumming it lightly, occasionally taking requests from the crowd. (You should hear Clint Barmes play “April Come She Will” on the acoustic second-base-area. It’ll bring a tear to your eye.) (That might be the weirdest sentence I’ve ever written. Fuck it. I’m leaving it in. It’s 12:25 a.m.)
Listen: those things that you just said Eckstein does? Everyone does them. Every second baseman does them. Short ones, tall ones, good ones, bad ones. They all do it. They all position themselves and study opposing hitters and try to get to the right place at the right time. Because they are professional baseball players. Why does David Eckstein get credit for things everyone does? Major League Baseball ability is not graded on a shortness curve.
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Yeah, that 2-out double in the 8th was bullshit.
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so was that Pinch Running for Ish right before the double
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Irrelevant comment is irrelevant.
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irrevalent comment in the first place is irrevalent
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Sour grapes are sour.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Glaring oversight was glaring!
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
my bad spelling was bad. which is wierd b/c i won a spelling bee in 6th grade
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Wierd spelling of wierd is wierd. ;)
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I before E except after C, or when the two sound like A – as in neighbor or weigh. There is an exception, but it’s weird.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Hahaha, I’ve never heard that last bit before.
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I remember being sort of blown away the first time I heard that last part.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s another exception too. But it has to wait because it’s just the heir.
…mine’s not as clever.
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Would that not qualify for sounding like A?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t it pronounced air? Hmm. I guess air starts with an A. But I don’t think of the “ere” sound as an A sound.
Then again, I’m not a linguistics expert or anything.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Oh, surely . . .
. . .you are something. Everybody is.
(I know there’s got to be some possible joke lurking there, but I’m not seeing it.)
Sabean delenda est!
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I was confused at first
Then I read my comment again. Poor wording by me.
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
id never heard that last part either. huh. learned something new today
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
The one flagrant one I’ve been seeing a lot of lately is “rediculous”.
And, please, don’t get me started on the past tense of “to lead”. As in: “he lead the team in…” That one is getting into print on a regular basis these days.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
My personal favorite ironic typo is the startling amount of people (or maybe, not so startling) who spell “retarded” as “retarted.”
That sounds delicious.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I would love to be retarted
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"I told the family lovingly slide"
Saucy!
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2010 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions
My favorite is when people say “You can’t argue with me because I’m a genious.”
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I also like anything in the form of “your dumb,” or “your retarted.”
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
You complain about grammar to much.
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It's his strikeouts.
His BABIP is ok (even a hair above his norm), his walks are up from his career average, but his strikeouts are absurd. Granted, it’s a laughably small sample—three more hits and he looks normal—but the whiffs are a bit worrisome (6 above normal in 51 ABs).
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STATS
- Giants last eleven games (SD, LA, MIL, CHI series):
3-0 in final game of each series
3-5 in the first two games of each series
- Pitching, all eleven games
1.02 ERA, .161/.232/.223 against
- Hitters:
Final game of each series
8.33 R/G, .330/.596/.398
First two games of each series:
0.63 R/G, .166/.216/.227
Timmy and Cainer2010 = Unit and Schilling 2001
Good digging
I’m going to go weep in the corner for awhile.
Our love is all of God's money.
Adopted Giant: Daryl "Dealio" Maday - Back in Richmond after a horrific stint in Fresno.
Oh, that confused me. I was wondering how the Giants had a .596 OBP.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
It sure felt like it
for a while in the 10-2 and 9-2 games :)
Timmy and Cainer2010 = Unit and Schilling 2001
they needed to sweep the cubs
they are not gonna sweep the rox this weekend…i doubt they will win the series…so they had to sweep the cubs
they arent…and the bums are in the process of rolling over for the friars
this team wil not be going to the post season
oh thank you
now i dont have to watch the rest of the season since you know what will happen
oh you can still watch
they kiss my big, fat, white ass when they dont win the division
they will finish with 90-91 wins….that means they dont go
Isn’t the wild card even farther out of reach right now?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Only reason I’d say it’s farther out of reach is because the Giants don’t play the Braves. But assuming the Padres win, the Giants will be a half game back of both teams (and tied with the Braves in losses).
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
I would go for the West. I’m not even thinking about the Braves. They play the Nations and the Marlins AND then the Phillies.
Braves actually have been less than stellar against the "lesser" teams
7-8 v. the Nationals
8-7 v. the Fishes
the Phillies will probably have clinched by then and be possibly resting their good players.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
92 wins is not the standard, its not like “oh you didnt have 92, you dont go”
its just a number for thought.
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Race to 92 games!!
First person there gets it
My mom: "I see so many Giants fans on TV at Petco, it's like you're at Pac Bell."
Me: "Almost, just with a substantially greater amount of douchebags."
I guess so
I hope it’s a day game when the Giants are going for the 92nd win. They may get it by a matter of hours. I’m skeptical about Colorado and their Mountain Standard Time.
My mom: "I see so many Giants fans on TV at Petco, it's like you're at Pac Bell."
Me: "Almost, just with a substantially greater amount of douchebags."
Wow.
Cranky postgame thread is cranky.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ON NATE SCHIERHOLTZ?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't need to sweep the Cubs or the Rox
IF they win tomorrow and take 2 out 3 in Colorado…they are in really good shape…
Giants have a day off on Monday…that’s a big advantage over SD and the Roxs
2 out of 3 at coors?????
the way they are hitting?
you must be fucking high
I've tried to be polite thus far
but with your analysis…are you high?
Even if the Padres win tonight…the Giants are 0.5 games out of the division and the WC…with 3 games at home against the Padres…
They’re doomed! It’ll never work!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I have to agree with you
Unless the offense wakes up and the pitching stays incredible (do not take these pitching performances for granted) I don’t see the post-season in their future either.
FLAWLESS LOGIC
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GASP! My child, you have the Grim!
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 23, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions
SEPTEMBER BASEBALL IS EXCITING!
/VOMITS
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 8:51 PM PDT reply actions
th bucs....with john bowker...beat the snot out of the cards today
ya…but i much prefer guillen and ross
fuck you sabean
I much prefer Bowker over Guillen (in his current state)
I’d take Ross over Bowker though.
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Heh
You overreacted to this game. It’s kind of funny.
Did Bowker go hitless the day Guillen had 6 rbis? I don’t know, but I feel like that’d make for some nifty poetic justice.
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Really? The Cardinals out-terribled a terrible team?
I’m shocked.
Shocked!
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 23, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Thats just fucking weak. They are in a pennant race.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 22, 2010 9:00 PM PDT reply actions
Every game I watch that ends like this, I think about how the Giants are wasting their best team pitching performance I’ve ever seen.
My mom: "I see so many Giants fans on TV at Petco, it's like you're at Pac Bell."
Me: "Almost, just with a substantially greater amount of douchebags."
It seems like forever the Giants had hitting and spotty pitching...now we have the best
pitching staff that the Bay Area has seen in a Giants staff and we have this spotty offense.
Baseball Gods…why do you do this to us?
"Baseball gods"?
Brain Sabean is not a god. In fact,
Sabean delenda est!
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even when things go our way, they don’t go our way.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Does not compute
My mom: "I see so many Giants fans on TV at Petco, it's like you're at Pac Bell."
Me: "Almost, just with a substantially greater amount of douchebags."
I just checked the score in the top of the 7th
And thought, “well I’ll check back in a few minutes to see the bottom half.”
It’s already the 8th.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
keeping an eye on it on espn2, 2 comebackers to the mound and a weak groundball in the bot 7 for the bums.
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
that will be an interesting series… could split
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
the cubs are playing very well under their new manager, its just that our pitching is sooo good right now. they were scoring 8.5 runs/gm during their winning streak
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
that’s what I do when the Giants are batting.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s on espn2 this whole time, lol
and yeah, i knew about the rain- i was making a joke about the length of yanks games, like that umpire who complained
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm watching now on ESPN2
Comcast Bay Area channel 725
its on right now im watching it. some bum just walked
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Both games were supposed to be on ESPN, but the TB@NYY delay pushed SD@LA to ESPN2.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
especially games that should have been won with simply good fundamentals. move the runner over, dont make the error, et al
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
That wasn’t a lot of fun
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by Grant Brisbee on Sep 22, 2010 9:21 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Dream, Dream, Dream
Dream, Dream, Dream
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About the Giants in the Playoffs!
Dream, Dream, Dream.
LOL
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 22, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
WRECK'D
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i accidentally opened the bums/sd game window that i didnt know was still open and saw HR and immediately thought tulo had homered, lol. phew
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
that woulda been a double down the line if furcal had been going on the pitch, drawing gonzalez off the bag, 3-2 runner second. but, nope.
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Dodgers actually trying
Silly me for even thinking such a thing.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
i would just love to see COL get swept by ARI so they go into our series with NO confidence.
on another side, if we had even remotely good hitting lately, we’d have a ten game winning streak going
and be running away with the division. instead, 5-5 over last 10
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Broxton??
Wow, Torre must really hate the Giants. Or he loves the Padres.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
I’m just waiting for the Padres to finish their series against the Bums. Dodgers playing like Double-A Albuquerque, if that’s even their farm team.
This is another reason why every Rockie loss is crucial
They finish with 3 at home against the Dodgers
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
??? they finish vs STL for 4. They knocked STL out of the playoffs a couple times over the last few years, so I’m sure the Cards would love to exact their revenge by ruining COLs season
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
You guys do realize that the Dodgers didn’t exactly pay well vs. the Giants either. Their one win last week, they had ONE fuckin’ hit.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Yup
Their offense was horrid as well against the Giants. The difference is that the Giants offense was even more horrid. Too much credit was given to the fantastic Dodger pitching which any good Giants fan knew was a ruse.
A.J. Ellis
Apparently was the only Dodger not to get the “roll-over-like-dogs” memo.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
Right now. They were pretty fucking annoying back in ’01.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
And in 99, too
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
God damn it.
They lost the division in 2001 by two games.
Those two games came in San Francisco around Memorial Day, when the Dbacks won 2-1 in twelve and 1-0 in eight-fucking-teen.
/punches wall
On the other hand, I was at the division clincher in 2000 over them, which was pretty sweet
//pats wall, apologizes
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't mind the Diamonbacks on November 4, 2001.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Eh
I hate when expansion teams win championships before my team.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
They beat the Yankees. That trumps everything.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
And they’re not the fucking Marlins.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Hopefully...
That’ll still be the case 9/28-30.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
at which point, they’ll become very annoying, I’m sure.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
im not looking forward to that series. good thing it will be in sf
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't watch the game
What did I miss?
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a big fat zero
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Well Guillen hit the ball really hard . . .
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt Kemp, you suck.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 9:44 PM PDT reply actions
Did Loney seriously just fly out on a 3-1 pitch down by 2 in the 9th? Holy shit.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Yes, that Dodger 9th was totally effed out. Bell wasn't really close to the plate for Loney and Kemp's
at bat, but he was able to get Loney to fly out. Kemp wanted to swing the bat and he went out of the zone on one pitch. That said, he did work a walk. But the next two worthless POS hitters went down quietly, swinging at shit.
Thanks notpads….
what is gibbons doing in the middle of their order?
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Hanging on every pitch of Pods' and Rox' games
Of course, none of it matters a whit if the Giants don’t somehow start hitting.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
That would be amusing!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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If there were a primate league, who would be the best team?
Gorillas are the biggest and strongest.
Baboons are just mean. And they have really thick butt pads.
Chimps are like little humans.
Oh, wait. My money’s on humans.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
As I reminded myself in my post
Primates do play baseball.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Of course I do
But I’m just here to stir shit up.
What are you going to do about it?
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
It’s unfortunate that they don’t let the apes play with the monkeys, though. It really is time for integration.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
No
By that I mean that humans are primates.
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
You’re right there, inthesquat; might as well finish the job.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not gonna judge you
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Nope.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt LeBlanc. LOL!
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Heroes come in all shapes and sizes.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
when the chimp is NOT the worst actor in the movie…
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I love how this movie had chimps playing in a sport where women are still prohibited.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, male chimps.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, lady chimps would just be implausible.
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"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
So I guess this movie definitely proves that when it comes to talent in baseball, gender is more predictive than species.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt LeBlanc?
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
So, he was Friends with a chimp?
Awesome
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"I told the family lovingly slide"
Man, they were really desperate for wordplay.
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Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 22, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I always get weirded out when I see raccoons in real life. Part of me wants to go up and pet them. But the rest of me is terrified that they are suddenly going to attack me. And then I get the urge to pet them again….
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
And deceptively cute.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
they look like little burglars.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
which is pretty much what they are.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3J8vYL_Vro
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
sl
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
They look like they are about to take the bus
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
It’s not like that’s the 38 Geary.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2010 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Raccoons are terrifying.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
And also really cute.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
A raccoon stole my backpack when we were camping in July
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"I told the family lovingly slide"
I had one take corn on the cob from me a couple years ago.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
A white faced capuchin monkey once stole my mom’s socks.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 22, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Awwww.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
It was really cute as I was swinging an iron poker at it while it hid in a bush.
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
D’awww.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
And fun to hit with rocks
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Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 22, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I prefer squirrels. Much more docile and fuzzy, and less likely to give me rabies.
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Uh, have you spent any time around the squirrels in Berkeley? They’re out of their fucking mind.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
er, minds
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The ones on campus are totally cool. I hand fed one one time. I know that’s a crappy thing to do, but that’s why I only did it once. It was really cute.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I once had one run across my path while I was walking to a final on a rainy winter day at 8am. It was carrying a giant glazed donut in it’s mouth.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I also once had one try to climb up me. That didn’t well
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I bet that didn’t well at all.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Dammit
Didn’t go well
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 22, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
It welled for me, at least
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"I told the family lovingly slide"
Now the campus pigeons… those fuckers are crazy.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
No. Squirrels are rats with fancy coats. And they will be more than happy to give you rabies.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2010 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions
No, it's often a wreck.
But they are rather reckless.
Sabean delenda est!
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Baggs post game notes indicated that Bochy might try a "radical" redesign of the lineup
If I had to go “radical”, my lineup would probably look like
Fontenot 3B
Sanchez 2B
Huff RF
Posey C
Burrell LF
Renteria SS
Sandoval 1B
Ross CF
I’d be ok trying that out for a little while. If you want to substitute Guillen for the Panda and put Huff back at first, I understand – but I still believe in Panda more than Jose.
My radical lineup!
CF Jose
1B Velez
RF Bumgarner
C Whiteside
2B Sandoval
LF Fontenot
3B Schierholtz
SS Huff
fringe wacko!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Would have scored more runs than todays line up
/madbum solo dinger
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by sfgiants420 on Sep 22, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Moving Sandoval to first base doesn’t change the fact that his poor fielding isn’t compensated for by his godawful hitting.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Rowand at leadoff was radical enough, I think
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"I told the family lovingly slide"
Bochy's idea of radical lineup change
Rowand, CF
Sanchez, 2B
Huff, 1B
Guillen, RF
Burrell, LF
Renteria, SS
Uribe, 3B
Whiteside, C
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by SFGuy on Sep 22, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
No he wouldn't
If anything bow tie would embrace him after the game for being an offensive mastermind and getting the giants rolling offensively again in their 9-3 loss to the cubs.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 22, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
If we were up by 9
I’d lead off Panda.
by iloveddickdietz on Sep 22, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Gibbons, you suck!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 9:48 PM PDT reply actions
If you made me choose
I would rather the Rockies lose than the Padres – we have a series left at coors, but we have the Padres at home.
yeah i said the same thing. make it a two-team race. if we take 2/3 at Coors, its pretty much over for COL
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
i said that on the pretense of what it means to COL, not to us.
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a good idea for you
Start being extremely pessimistic and defeatist about the giants since everything you say seems to always happen the other way around.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 22, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
ok, if you say so… i will do that, but not without a disclaimer.
FUCK THE GIANTS, THEY WILL NEVER SCORE, THEY’RE NEVER WIN ANOTHER GAME THIS YEAR, THEY WONT EVEN GET A DAMN HIT. PABLO WILL BE LUCKY IF HE CAN CATCH THE BAG OF PRETZELS THE ZENDOR IN THE NEARBY SECTION THROWS HIM.
WE ARE ALL FUCKED, AND DOOMED TO HELL.
*disclaimer: THIS ALL IS TRUE!!! EMBRACE ME AS YOUR PROPHET OR LET ME DIE A MARTYR
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
FEAR THE ZENDOR!
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 23, 2010 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh my.
Nice.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 23, 2010 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions
WHY IS EVERYONE SO PISSED OFF!?
There’s always next year
Mays' Field McCovey's Cove Bonds' Bleachers
I don't know about you guys
But I’m actually very excited about 2011 and 2012 – our young core will be peaking with assists from Belt perhaps and hopefully some money coming off the books.
me too. but i still want to get to the playoffs so the guys have experience for next year
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
i want to make the playoffs this year so we can prove we deserve to be there, and the wreak some havoc. experience is just a bonus
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
hopefully some money coming off the books.
Zito and Rowand will still be around. Lincecum’s salary won’t be going down unless he sucks. Cain’s salary will go up. Sanchez will get a raise in arbitration.
I don’t know how much is really going off the books (besides Freddy Sanchez and DeRosa, who will be free agents after 2011), but I think payroll is actually going to be tighter in those years.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Not to mention holes at 1B, SS, LF and RF (because we know Ross won’t be starting in this organization).
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Well
Belt will eventually fill one of those holes, either 1B or a corner OF spot. Neal could take a corner by 2012 I’d hope, and Jayson Werth in right…
Neuk is rich. I have faith, I guess.
/counts money
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 22, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
playoff contention means more fans, which means more revenue
I think that Neukom would be willing to raise payroll for the right player(s) if the Giants had a legitimate window of contetion, which they seem to.
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. - SLC
1B – Huff
SS – Uribe
LF – Burrell/Belt
RF- FA
both Pat and Anbrey want to be here next year. I can’t see them not signing Uribe unless there is a better option out there
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s assuming they re-sign. He said “with money coming off,” so that doesn’t apply so much if those players are brought back.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Huff and Burrell want to stay in SF, so I’m sure that will get worked out. As for Uribe, if Drew can’t be had, there’s not really any other option than to resign him. I mean, he has hit some clutch HRs this year. 20 HRs, 90 RBIs by years end will catch the eye of Sabean.
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m sure they’ll want to stay, but that doesn’t mean we’re going to get them for 3 million a piece.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
aubs will get 2/16 and pat 1/5 with club option, if i had my guess
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Molinaesque
One year, dump by June, bring up Belt
by iloveddickdietz on Sep 22, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd be mad if they traded Dirty for anyone.
If you can resign Uribe, I’d be open to bringing in Orlando Hudson to platoon with him.
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. - SLC
Huff is going to want a raise.
Which is not to say he doesn’t deserve one, but that’s not money coming off hte books if he returns.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Aubrey would actually be a good fit for at least two of the NL West teams:
Obviously the Giants would want to keep him and I would hope that Aubrey would want to come back…however….
Colorado won’t be playing Todd Helton forever and Aubs would put up insane numbers in that pinball palace…
San Diego might not be able to afford AGon…Aubs could step right in, but I don’t think he would want to play there over SF.
Aubs has said he loves it in SF and wants to stay many times
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup
If the Giants offered $3 million but another team offered $6.5 million, he’s not staying here.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
he’s had a long career, and has plenty of money. i think at this point, he wants to play for a contending, winning team, and the money isn’t important. what’s important to him is that hes happy where he is.
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I think if the Giants offered him less than half of what he could get elsewhere, he would feel disrespected enough to not want to come back.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
/sabean offers huff a 1 year 1 million dollar deal with 250k in PA incentives
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 22, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
i believe this too, however, knowing how sabean has a tendency to overpay, im not so worried about a lowballing.
Sabean, low-baller? pleeeeeease :)
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I would like to think that we have some good young talent to look forward to in 2011-2013, but I think that people are extremely anxious about winning now, giving the state of our pitching staff. As has been pointed out many times, this is a historically good pitching staff, and it seems like we are wasting it with an inferior, underachieving offense down the stretch, just as we did in 2009.
I think the Giants’ start is rising, the Dodgers’ is falling, and we are in good position to become the premiere team of the division in the coming years, but games like this make it feel like we’re wasting a lot of talent.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
As in they aren’t going away, or they aren’t going to amount to much?
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Whoa, that's kinda creepy how it can mean two very different things
Not going away*
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
I dunno. They have a lot of talent, but they have some big holes to fill in the coming years. The infield corners are about to get shaken up unless Helton bounces back again, and Gonzales and Tulowitzki aren’t about to get any cheaper. After 2011, their already inflated payroll is going to be a mess unless they can continue to spend $85 MM a year.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I don’t think their holes are that big. They have Ianetta and Stewart that should become the starters next year, so really they just have holes at second and first.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
They were supposed to be the starters this year, weren’t they? I’m not convinced that the Rockies brass is comfortable with them as everyday players.
Ianetta hasn’t proven himself yet, and my personal opinion is that Stewart is serviceable but not great. And no matter who they sign, their pitching is always going to be a ? because of that ridiculous joke of a ballpark they play in.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Too tired to debate it now
But I see them as a very legitimate threat. Anytime you have two superstar players on your team and a young pitcher like that, you’re going to be dangerous.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Well, then I’ll keep my camp simple. If Pablo figures his shit out, you’ve described the Giants, but we have more payroll, better pitching, better coaching, and a way better clubhouse vibe.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
im in your camp on that one, lol.
how great would that be in Pablo gets it together, but the organization has its doubts and then get an impact bat in the offseason anyways?
Torres
Sanchez
Posey
Huff
Impact Bat
Sandoval
Burrell
Uribe (or Drew, or whoever they go with)
F. Sanchez
or something like that, or something not at all like that. the configs are endless with the 3-7 slots being big bats
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice man I like your idea of hitting johnny sanchy 2nd
He’s great at moving runners over as well and has a great opposite field stroke.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 22, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
i hope this isn’t chasm because sanchez really is made to be a #2 hitter. great bat control, has some power, hits for avg
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
oops lol i accidentally put F sanchez instead of J sanchez at 9. i was just imagining him as the pitcher in the lineup
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I kinda think De Rosa is our Panda insurance next season
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Giants lose, [Not very much] to [Slightly less]
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"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
This is the kind of hard hitting journalism that keeps me coming back for more.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2010 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
You can’t ask for more than hard hitting.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 23, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
but we're not in first place anymore
so he’s fair game for criticism, once again.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
they lost the game on an error that prolonged the inning. pathetic
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks Casey
Heath Bell should not be credited with a strikeout of Blake due to offensive indifference.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
by tobias on Sep 22, 2010 9:53 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
LOL
Nicely done.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
1 back in the west, tie in the wildcard
It’s all about the loss column at this stage of the game!
you can’t make up a loss. but being 1 back in win column, that’s a game you have yet to play
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
No I just don’t understand why you said that. We all know that.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
i was finishing your thought, games you haven’t played do not equal wins, hence the 1/2 game.
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
No
The .5 game means something. So when people say that the loss column is all that matters, they are wrong.
I think an extra loss is definitely worse than a “yet-to-win” win. However, you are right in pointing out that the win isn’t automatic.
the win isn’t automatic, but it’s still to be determined. at this point in the season, it’s all about the loss column, because those are not games you have yet to play and could win, instead, they are losses that final.
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
right. hence, why they split the difference between an 87 and 86 win team with identical L records as a 1/2 game
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Distilled to its simpliest form
You have 2 games to play, They have 1
If you are tied in the loss column, you can guarantee at least a tie by winning your remaining games — your destiny is up to you. If you are down one in the loss column, if they win their last game there is nothing you can do — you are done.
no, they aren’t. that’s why it sucks to be down 1 in the L on SD right now
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
because the pads are far less dangerous than the rockies, that, and the pads suck right now. they only beat teams named Dodgers.
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
aRE YOU TALKIN TO ME?
BARry Zito
by iloveddickdietz on Sep 22, 2010 10:03 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
16 straight games where the Giants allowed 3 ER or less
And they are only 10-6. Even a decent offense would probably add 3 more wins.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
If we had the '63 Willie Mays
Giants would be 14-2.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
'63?
A reporter was once doing an interview with Ty Cobb in his old age. The reporter was trying to establish how the game had changed, and asked Cobb what he thought he would hit if he were playing today. “Oh, about .270”, Cobb replied. When the reportr expressed amazement, Cobb added “Well, young man, you must remember that I am over 70 years old.”
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
… Then he kicked the reporter in the shins as hard as he could. And you know what? He was still wearing his old spikes!
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Cobb never would have survived playing in ’63 with “all them non-whites”.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I meant . . .
. . . as an admittedly feeble jest, that Mays today might be a useful addition. The spurt of humor, however, rather dribbled off . . . .
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
And I was making a bad joke about Cobb's tolerence toward others.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
so with willie mays, they were worse than us in this stretch?
i dont know if that is reassuring or not
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
It was the sixties
Lack of scoring was the norm.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Wow
Tonight, the Giants matched the longest single-season streak (16 games) holding an opponent to three runs or fewer since 1920. Yup, the entire live-ball era.
You’ve got the 1981 A’s, the 1972 Indians and the 2010 Giants.
(The Cincinnati Reds had the only longer streak, a 20-game run, but that spanned the 1942 and ’43 seasons.)
Going a little further down the rabbit hole, the Giants haven’t allowed more than four runs in 21 consecutive games. That’s tied for the fifth longest streak in the live-ball era – the longest since those ’81 A’s.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Every team in baseball
Is either better at offense or defense, by some fraction.
The Giants do not have the worst offense in the league (it’s a bit below average) and they have an above average pitching/defensive side.
On the whole, we’re a good baseball team.
1972 Indians
April 29th-May 20th
Gaylord Perry 6-0
by iloveddickdietz on Sep 22, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
My lineup
Dietz
Mays
Bonds
McCovey
Mitchell
Kent
Williams
Aurilia
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
/sniff
/he puts out small candle,lights one for Gerald.
by iloveddickdietz on Sep 22, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder how many would have put the Panda as the 3rd baseman on a similar team, at the end of last year.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Mine would be
AlanMitchellEdwardGeorgePatrickHenryGallagher
Dirty Al
The First Dirty in Giant’s history!!!!
by iloveddickdietz on Sep 22, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Will Clark
The reason why pitchers talk with their glove up to their mouth.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
No Cepeda?
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
1995 World Series on ESPN Classic right now
Indians’ starting lineup for Game 6:
Lofton CF
Vizquel SS
Baerga 2B
Belle LF
E. Murray 1b
M. Ramirez RF
Thome 3B
T. Pena C
OH
MY
GOD
3 of them are.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I counted 4 and then realized Lofton retired. Been watching the Lofton 2-out line drive base hit too much lately.
I think he “retired” in the same way that Bonds “retired” – no one would sign him anymore.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
me, too.
and he could probably still get the job done.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
/drools
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
And at cleanup...
I’m thinking of a man who’s really slow at this point but can still hit the ball really hard.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Surprising none of them played for the Giants the past couple years.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
One of them played for the Giants two years ago.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
and he played 3rd base.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Those late 90s Indians lineups were no joke
Think about this.
They developed Ramirez, Thome, Baerga, Lofton, Belle (with Sexson blocked by Thome), all within a few years of each other.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
and Brian Giles, too.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
and David Bell.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he’s one of the most underrated players of the last decade.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
absolutely
giles was always the only one who swung at a lower percentage of pitches than bonds did in the 2001-2004 season. incredible plate discipline
Oh yeah!
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Man I hate that guy.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 22, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I really liked him before he became a Padre.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
and I forgot how good he was
.291/.400/.502 for his career.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
they got him from the Padres with Baerga for Joe Carter, though Baerga never played at the major league level for SD. That was a pretty good trade for them
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I knew I was forgetting someone
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
they had Jeromy Burnitz, too.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
And they lost…
Did they have any pitching? That lineup is freaking amazing. I would trade our offense for their offense, even if it meant losing Posey.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Sep 22, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
good bullpen
Jose Mesa, Julian Tavarez when he was fantastic, couple lefties who were filthy. Nobody in the rotation that could strike anyone out
Hershey squirt, Dennis Martinez, Charles Nagy, Bud Black
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Ken Hill
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 22, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Game one of the World Series, they lost 3-2 and only got 2 hits. Maddux beat Hershiser.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Greg Maddux's 95 season
One of the best of all time. OF ALL TIME.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
IMMA LETCHU FINISH
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
1995, Williams was still a Giant.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
You're thinking of the 97 team
That also lost the world series.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
A really violent cartoon
I haven’t seen it. But I would imagine that is an apt description.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
That movie sucked ass.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I could have told you that without seeing anything but the title.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 22, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Now that would be a good movie
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 22, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, that one sat there for eleven hours before someone nailed it.
Well done.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 23, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Kinda like that girl at the bar with the ok body but the questionable face.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Frankly
I was shocked to find that sitting there with that comment asking to be made.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
THE SHOCKER!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
OH GOD! WHY DID I READ THE COMMENT ON MLB.COM?
Coveboy44 wrote:
Giants are not scoring runs due to lack of bunts. They are not getting that one hit when they do have scoring opportunities.
9/23/2010 1:12:45 AM
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
im really glad he decided to share his insight with us. please, don’t share more
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
The man has . . .
. . . an excellent career awaiting him in the Giants’ front office. If Bill Neukom reads that, he might even hire him in to replace Sabean.
Which reminds me:
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Man, stupid essay. I don’t know the modern history of India. Why can’t I just write about the book we read?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
Copy and paste wikipedia
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
don’t forget to get kicked out of school for plagarism while you’re at it!!!
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Then who would I stalk?!
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 22, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would he do that?
That seems counter-productive.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
The modern history of India
There was a dude named Gandhi. He got shot. Then there was a lady named Gandhi. She got shot. And it was all because the British were stupid dicks.
The end.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
And there's something about a llama, right?
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I’m supposed to talk about the processes of minoritization and majoritarianism in India today, and draw parallels between that and the aftermath of partition in 1947.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I found a good source to work with. I just wish that it was the novel that we actually had to read for class.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
majoritarianism is hard to say
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 22, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh. I had a couple of possible topics for you just in case. Ah well.
by non sequitur on Sep 22, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
“A bunch of people today are dicks, just like the British.”
You’re welcome.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
When you cite me on your references page, please refer to me as Dr. Groug P. Grougington
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
, Esq.?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it would lack class without that.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I loved it . . .
. . . when we were in England for a few months and opened a bank account—everything was addressed to or headed “Esq.” I almost bought a bowler on the strength of it (but didn’t).
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
"A bunch of people today are dicks, just like the British." (Grougington, Esq.)
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey, the bold failed somehow.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
You boldly failed where no man has failed before.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Take the beating, sleep on it, wake up tomorrow and head back to work.
The Giants scored 1 run. In two games. And came away with a split in a 2 game series. You can’t win two games with one run, so if you really think about it, the Giants achieved best case scenario.
The Giants scored 1 run. In two games, And gained 1 game in the wildcard standings and only lost 1 game in the division standing.
The Giants scored 1 run. In two games. And somehow gained a game on the Colorado Rockies. Like. What the fuck?
10 Games left. No time to panic. This is not the time to point fingers, to mess with the players heads, to experiment, to promote Belt, or to do any kind of stupid shit like that.
If we live by the long ball, we die by the long ball. That’s the end of the story. Go get them tomorrow and hope the BABIP gods shine on the Giants for the next 10 games.
You go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
by jctGamer on Sep 22, 2010 11:05 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I caught a fish and it was
“this big”.
by iloveddickdietz on Sep 22, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
This is a great article.
Guessing the Sentences in Donald Rumsfeld’s New Book
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 22, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
wreck'd
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Sep 23, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
wow… Baggs sure did a number on his post game.
I haven’t seen such frustrated, exasperated, and all the other "erated"s baseball players in a long, long time. Baggs painted one hell of a picture of what it’s like to be an everyday position player on the SF Giants right now.
This is scary:
Bochy said he and the staff will talk over the lineup, and he didn’t rule out going with a radical redesign . . . .
He’s bad enough when just trying to make out a lineup; what would he be like trying a “radical redesign”? Rowand, Ford, Burriss, Velez, anything else out of the “DO NOT USE” can? Probably.
When you put what is probably your best out there and it doesn’t work, do you try again with your best, or do you panic and flail wildly about? We may be about to find out the answer to that question, and strong men blench (and blanch) at the prospect.
The curious thing is that it’s not as if the Giants offense overall is particularly inadequate; they have been hovering right around league average—one day a little under, one day a little over—for the longest time, and were one to reckon only from July 1 on, it’d probably be rather above average. The problem is that for reasons unclear, at least to me, they are feast or famine, which is not a good way to scatter your runs. The most “efficient” use of runs, in a “Pythagorean” sense, is to win every game by 1 run. Whenever a team wins a blowout, they have, in some sense, “wasted” the excess runs. Mind, it’s not like it’s something that can easily be controlled, and you have to play every game to the max, but it would be nice to know why this Jekyll/Hyde scoring.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I fear this “radical” lineup as well, though may I offer a devils advocate POV-
There’s another side to this. The “best” 8 that we can put out there every night- the highest OBP/SLG guys- at this point, may be so frustrated and exasperated with the way things are going that they might not be our best (in another sense of the word) lineup that we can put out there the following day.
Perhaps some “fresh” players, such as Nate, Fontenot, and Ish (vs righty Dempster) who aren’t feeling the heat and weight of such an offensive drought could be key to scoring some runs tomorrow. Of course, the all-important offensive cornerstones such as Posey, Sanchez and Huff should remain, as they all had good ABs tonight, but perhaps instead of the quartet of Uribe, Sandoval, Guillen, Burrell, who hit for power and have been hacking away for HRs lately, we could infuse the more-OBP/defensive orientations that Nate, Ish, and Font have to offer.
One thing I have noticed about this club, is that the lineup is packed with all-or-nothing hitters. Stacked with Burrell, Guillen, (Sandoval in a sense) and Uribe, for example, creates this dynamic where if they aren’t hitting HRs, they aren’t producing. They aren’t guys with speed who beat out DP balls. They don’t hit for power. Only one of them really show any patience at the plate.
Maybe what worked for us so well in July, was that we had guys like Nate, Ish, etc playing in the 8th slot like a revolving door every day. They kept it fresh.
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
meant to say “they don’t hit for average” in the 2nd to last sentence in the 3rd paragraph
by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Works for short series
witch is what we have left.
Sabean rollin’ the bones!
by iloveddickdietz on Sep 22, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
we just have too many “big bats” in the lineup (ironically), all-or-nothing guys who don’t hit for average, no speed, no bat control, so when they slump, there goes the offense. all of a sudden you’re left with living and dying by the HR.
SCIENCE
by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2010 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Dear Extra Baggs Commenter Named Droug,
Only groud is allowed to replace one of the letters from my username with a D and then post with this name on the Internet. Please either become as cool as groud or stop immediately.
Kisses,
groug
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
like that’s even possible.
Chester Arthur cannot play third base.
by groud on Sep 23, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Welcome back, old friend.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
don't call it a comeback
i been here for years.
Chester Arthur cannot play third base.
i been here for years.
hiding in the shadows of the cathedral
Adopted Son: !Matt Downs I'll miss you my son.
On the front page
It’s still in the top of the 4th.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I vote for
Giants hitting 6 bombs tomorrow, warm up for the slugfest coming in Coors. Gnight everyone!
It's better to be lucky than good.
Niners best QB last three years
pitching for Blue Jays tomorrow. Good Luck.
by iloveddickdietz on Sep 22, 2010 11:48 PM PDT reply actions
I really enjoyed that 4 game series the giants played against the cubs at home in late september last year
Which made me even more excited about this series I’m so pumped up for tomorrows game and seeing bochy and sabean’s idea of a “line up reconstruction”.
I think we all know who is leading off.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
it’s gonna be fontenot.
i dont think they have the balls to play velez
by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2010 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
they did
but velez kept swinging at them.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2010 6:25 AM PDT up reply actions
So...In September
2,2,5,3,2,6,1,7,1,0,6,0,2,10,0,1,9,1,0….That’s 58 runs in 19 games, about 3 per game. We have been shutout in 4 of the last 10 games, though.
Anyway, when I watch the games at night, I get too emotional to evaluate anything rationally. I also apologize if I have offended anybody during gamethreads, my level of vulgarity and crudeness tends to elevate. I am tense enough when we play the Marlins in May, let alone the last ten days of the season in a pennant race when we are in a virtual tie for first.
Point being, does everybody think we have just hit a rough patch at the worst possible time (The Giants’ Way) or is the offense just doing a magnificent choke job at the worst possible time (The Giants’ Way)? This community evaluates things statistically, but some of these AB’s are so bad, I feel like some of these guys are pressing. It seems they are mentally struggling with the pressure at times.
IMO, confidence is the most important part of sports. If you know you can beat the other guy you have already won and vice versa. Watching pitchers pitch against us you can see their confidence rise as the game goes on and our offenses’ confidence whither away. The pitcher starts to realize that he can throw up garbage and most of these guys will flail away, this leads to him being more confident and being able to pitch better overall. Meanwhile, the offense (and all McCoven) starts thinking, here we go again…
Either way it is really frustrating to watch. Cumdempster is one of my most hated pitchers to face. He seems to have no problem mowing us down the last couple of years, and his stupid glove twitching routine during his windup is infinitely annoying as he is setting you down in order.
If you want to go to the playoffs Giants, you are going to have to score some runs. Tonight would be a great night to get mentally tough and/or for your luck to change.
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Sep 23, 2010 7:12 AM PDT reply actions
I'm hungry.
It’s too late for beakfast and too early for lunch. Mid-mornings blow.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
Brunch? Or is that only for weekends in hip neighborhoods?
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Sep 23, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I would think it’s the latter. Typically, my mid-morning nosh is peanut butter on Wheat Thins while sitting at my desk.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
I hear ya…
I am more of a goldfish man…Or pretzels with spicy mustard….
Goldfish Man. That is quite the oxymoron.
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Sep 23, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
This is a job for... Goldfish Man! Da-da-da-DAAAH!
Apparently, BTW, you really don’t want to self-apply that phrase in China, where it translates to this guy:
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 23, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions
WOW
That is the official vehicle of NAMBLA
I retract my initial statement about being a Goldfish Man….What I meant to say was that I enjoy eating little orange crackers in the shape of fish.
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Sep 23, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
WTF redesign
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
THE ICONS IN MY TABS ARE CONFUSING ME
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I HATE IT BECAUSE IT’S DIFFERENT
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Now that I’m used to it, it’s fine.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I always laugh when I remember how much we flipped out when Sbnation switched over to the new formet
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
MAT
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
LATOS SUCKS
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Can you imagine today's GDT without "auto-refresh"..
ZOMG
Adopted Son: !Matt Downs I'll miss you my son.
Hey, I was there…It reeked havoc on my crappy ass DSL connection :-)
/ we had to type uphill, both ways, in a snowstorm, with a potato in our pockets for lunch and a handwarmer. ’Cause you know, we were so poor we had no jackets…and another thing……
Adopted Son: !Matt Downs I'll miss you my son.
What exactly does havoc smell like?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
If you smell Karrosene, run.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
You’d be one of the last people I’d expect to misspell the word “kerosene”.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Well, it was intentional. I even capitalized it.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I NEVER GET ANY JOKES
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
ERIC KARROS SMELLS BAD!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
DO YOU GET IT?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Does anyone think we have a better shot at winning the rockies series
than Pads winning theirs against the Reds. Last nights loss gave me such an uneasy feeling.
I have no idea
I do know that this team plays best when things look the bleakest…
I could see them losing a heartbreaker to Cumdempster and the Flubbies tonight and then taking 2 out of 3 from the Rox…
I feel pretty sure this is going to come down to the 3 game set vs. SD to close the year…
I already had a nightmarish vision this morning of the Pads celebrating on the last day of the season on our field while we all curse Phil Cuzzi….It seems like the destiny of Giants’ fans…
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Sep 23, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Ah, for the Photoshop skillz to do this.
Emperor Selig: Come, boy, see for yourself. From here, you will witness the final destruction of the Giants and the end of your insignificant pennant drive.
Buster’s eyes go to his bat
Emperor Selig: You want this, don’t you? The hate is swelling in you now. Take your Magicinside weapon. Use it. I am unarmed. Strike me down with it. Give in to your anger. With each passing moment you make yourself more my servant.
Buster Skyposey: No.
Emperor Selig: It is unavoidable. It is your destiny.
Darth Cuzzi: wheeze
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 23, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
But following this scenario Cuzzi would repent and end up helping us.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
and that he's Posey's biological Dad
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Sep 23, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Right, but I had to get him in there somewhere.
He isn’t badass enough to be the Emperor, and he wears the mask, so…
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 23, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Ah
I follow your logic, but so does Russel Martin.
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Sep 23, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Which would be awesome.
He fucked us in The Umpire Strikes Back but saves us in Return of the Magicinside.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 23, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
The owner of the company came into the office today and all but
guaranteed the pads have the more favorable schedule of games left and will coast into the post season. I had to remind him the last 3 were at AT&T and his confidence didn’t waiver.
Also...SD is playing everyday from now to the end of the regular season
Should bode well for their pitchers
Weird for some reason the yahoo Padre page had the next game vs. CIN on friday.
But not its back to Latos vs. Kuroda. I hope Latos sucks again
I hope everyday wins every day.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 23, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Wait...
Wasn’t it supposed to be a day game today? Did the schedule change for TV? Noticed that it was a 7:05 EST start
No
It’s been 7:05 EST for as long as I have seen the game time posted…
It’s weird, but I don’t think it has been changed.
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Sep 23, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I wanted to go over to True Blue LA to vent about how crappy the Bums are playing
but they beat me to it:
Luckily for the Padres playoff chances, whenever the postseason candle appears ready to succumb to lack of oxygen the Dodgers show up to blow new life into their flickering postseason flame. The Padres inflicted their sixth straight victory over the Dodgers, and this coming from a team who cannot beat anyone else.
Way to brighten up my day…
The Dodgers are taking a giant dump all over our season…
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Sep 23, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
IS THAT NOT THE NATURAL ORDER OF THE UNIVERSE?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Ran into Brian Wilson outside of the Hancock Tower!
and all of my friends think I’m talking about the Beach Boy, so I figured I’d come and be excited about it with you guys.
He’s really tan.
and I may or may not have seen Ishikawa outside of Starbucks.
Go jump in Toews Lake.
Aubrey: old German for king of the elves. Huff: English for...huff.
We all look the same anyway.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I've been staring at all the old dudes around my work
looking for Kruk, Kuip or Miller. Grey hair is not the most defining of characteristics.
Go jump in Toews Lake.
Aubrey: old German for king of the elves. Huff: English for...huff.
Oh, man. What I wouldn’t give to check out the view from atop Wilson’s Hancock Tower.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
best view in the city!
actually we were right outside the cheesecake factory, which made me laugh later.
and I had a dream about a huff/burrell/huff’s sister love triangle last night. I blame you
Go jump in Toews Lake.
Aubrey: old German for king of the elves. Huff: English for...huff.
That’s amazing. The universe is trying to tell us something. And whatever it is, I like it.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
Really...?
Oh, man. What I wouldn’t give to check out the view from atop Wilson’s Hancock Tower.
No one went for that ? Well done TL2 !
Adopted Son: !Matt Downs I'll miss you my son.
Tower of Power!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey, I was just listening to them!
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 23, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
OK, so it’s Sonic 3, on Sonic and Knuckles, on a second Sonic and Knuckles, on a Game Genie, on a Genesis Cleaning System, on a ????, on a 32X, on a Genesis, on a Sega CD.
What is the thing between the Cleaning system and the 32X?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I thinks it’s just Natto’s sega boner.
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
Makes sense. I always pictured Natto’s sega boner to be black and girthy.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
New with Sega Boner: Sonic Gold Cock Rings
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
The internet seems to think that it’s a Master System adapter. I didn’t know that ever existed.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
And now I'm waiting on a co-worker so i can have lunch. Really, Thursday? This is how you're going to be?
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
What did Thursday ever do to you?
It’s a day like any other day…it’s certainly better than Tuesday and Wednesday and much much better than Monday.
Ugh.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 23, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
But much, much more importantly
WHAT ARE YOU HAVING FOR LUNCH????
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 23, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I had a Lunchable I brought from home. Lame, I know, but they’re cheap.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
Lunchable? Dude, that makes you cooler in my book.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 23, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Despite my food snobbishness, I'm not going to hate on you at all for that
My mom wouldn’t let me eat Lunchables as a kid because she thought they were so unhealthy. One day I came home crying from being teased because I was the only one in our circle of friends that didn’t bring Lunchables for lunch. After that she started putting home-made “Lunchables” (crackers and meat she personally selected) into my lunch so that I could also know the joy of building my own lunch.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 23, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
So… does that mean that Atlanta’s chance is under 50%?
by GrooveGiant on Sep 23, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Nein, they're at 70% chance to make the playoffs
PECOTA likes them to win the wild card by a pretty wide margin.
I wish I could take the rest of the season off
This team is somehow the most maddening team of my life. OF MY LIFE
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
OT: What's the point of buying a Bentley then?
BERLIN – Luxury carmaker Bentley is recalling 820 cars worldwide over fears that its famous “Winged B” hood ornament could injure people in an accident because it might not properly retract.
The fear is that if the hood ornament does not retract, it could increase the risk of injury to a pedestrian in the event of a crash, the U.S. Department of Transportation’s National Highway Traffic Safety
One needs some way to push the poor people aside.
Remember, the considerate plutocrat steps over the homeless, not on them.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 23, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants OPS+ in September? 79
Their wOBA for September? .280 (third worst in the majors).
Let’s hope Sabean’s chickens haven’t come home to roost at the worst time possible.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
Giants teams going back to 4 years have scored 700 or fewer runs.
Only two teams have made the post season scoring 700 or fewer. The 2005 Astros, and Padres; and that was the first year of mandatory drug testing.
2010 – 692 projected
2009 – 657
2008 – 640
2007 – 683
Funny thing, is that this is the third season without Bonds, and only a couple of hitters are left from the 2007 team, Bonds last; Nate and Velez.
I mean I liked Klesko, Todd Greene Dave Roberts, Mark Sweeney, the second coming of Auilia and all the rest of the retreads for the annual “be-nice-to-little-kids-day” that Bochy brought along, but holy cow. That the continuation of this “rebuild” still can’t score runs is not an accident.
by Roy Hobbs Jr. on Sep 23, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably mentioned already, but
From Yahoo:
Few pitchers have been as consistent as Sanchez of late. He has surrendered just two earned runs in his last 32 2/3 innings, a 0.55 ERA.
Problem is
You cant hold an opponent to negative runs.
by Roy Hobbs Jr. on Sep 23, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Oof
extrabaggs Giants fans getting worn out by Pablo Sandoval and his .195 RISP. Suggested nicknames: “Pablo Strand-em-all” and “Flash in the Panda.” Ouch.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
NERD NITE tonight
http://www.rickshawstop.com/calendar/event_details/?tfly_event_id=14005
Nerd Nite is an informal gathering at which nerds get together for nerdery of all sorts (well, mostly presentations and drinking). An institution in Boston, New York, Austin, Washington DC, Munich, and now San Francisco.
This one’s going to be a BEAST! From the cute to the slippery to the predatory, this month’s Nerd Nite will bring out the animal in us, with a geomorphologist, a wonk-nerd hybrid, and a pickup artist explaining it all. (Also: look forward to getting some geeky—and hackable—swag from our sponsor, CBS’s The Big Bang Theory!)
NERD NITE – “It’s like the Discovery Channel… with beer!”
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Fear not Giants fans, those flyballs will be into the bleachers tonight
The wind is strong and blowing out and the linesmakers have set the total at 12.5. I take it both MadBum and Dumpster are flyball pitchers?
Neither starter will have a good game unless they have their K ball working.
Giants will win this one 10-6 with the superior and deeper bullpen being the key.
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