Giants/Dodgers Series Preview
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 14, 2010 1:27 PM PDT
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PrintI’m not a big college football guy. This probably has to do with the universities I went to. Southern Oregon University is in the NAIA, and they’re usually playing loser schools like Menlo. Yeah, that’s right. I went there. On September 25th, Menlo College is going DOWN when they, uh, play that, uh, kind of offense, wait, with the…
…wait, what was I writing about? Ah. College football. Yeah, I can’t get too excited about it. I also root for my true alma mater, San Jose State. That’s a little bit of a different story, as they have a legitimate football program. It’s not a championship contender, though. Not even close. They’re schedule-filler for the teams that do contend, and they get whomped by teams like Alabama.
So I think, eh, what’s the point of following a team that isn’t contending? It’s a pretty narrow-minded way to look at things, though. Because while James Madison isn’t contending for a BCS title any time soon, the whole town of, uh, Madisonville, Virginia is just giddy about the football team right now. Giddy. And all they had to do was beat one of those bowl teams, Virginia Tech. If San Jose State somehow eked out a victory against Boise State one of these seasons, you’d better believe the goalposts would come down. That’s why you watch. That’s what the players play for. If you aren’t going to make the Rose Bowl, try to stick a finger in the eye of the teams that will.
Wow. Three paragraphs about college football to get to this point: The Dodgers are, like, going to try, and stuff. They’re going to try really, really hard. We don’t remember Joe Morgan because of a fantastic championship run; we remember him as a Giant because we got to face south and stick our middle finger up in the air. So when you read things like, "The Giants have an easy remaining schedule – only two of the six teams have a winning percentage over .500!" be afraid. One of those teams is the Dodgers. And if they can’t go to the damned playoffs, they want to set the whole thing on fire, starting with the Giants.
It’s easy to hope that Dodgers’ spirits have been crushed, and that they’re just playing out the string like a nomadic pack of spineless pig-men. I’d like to believe that. I really, really do. I just can’t. Every game in this series is going to be stressful until the ninth inning. It doesn’t matter that Matt Kemp is having an off year, or that the Dodgers are below .500, or that Jonathan Broxton is ugly. This is going to be the most stressful series of the year. Until the next one.
Here’s how evil the Dodgers are: they made you read a half-assed analogy that about college football, with you thinking it was relevant to your interests. For shame, Los Angeles. For shame.
Hitter to watch:
Rod Barajas am become the destroy of Giants pitching. It happed at some time in the offseason. There was a press release and everything. He had a good chance of coming to the Giants this year if we didn’t just luck the hell out and get Bengie Molina back on a one-year deal. Who knows when we would have seen Posey? Barajas had something like a .450 OPS in June and July, when he didn’t play the Giants. That’ll learn him.
Pitcher to watch:
All three of these pitchers give me hives. Clayton Kershaw, Chad Billingsley, and Ted Lilly all seem to tie Giants hitters in knots. It would have been a lot cooler if the Dodgers started messing around after falling out of the race, throwing their version of Kevin Pucetas at us. I don’t know how anyone can look at this series, see Kershaw/Billingsley/Lilly as the three probable starters, and think, "Oh, this should be easy!"
I especially want the Giants to drop six earned on Billingsley, though. You may say I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one. Besides, I was just thinking the same think about Mat Latos. Dreams can come true.
Prediction:
Someone, somewhere will bring up Dave Burba and Solomon Torres without being punched in the neck. That is a problem with an easy solution. I’m not advocating violence, but you could at least close your eyes and think about punching them in the neck. Wait, I guess I was the first one to mention them. That doesn’t count. Carry on.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
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Thing A
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People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
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Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
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I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Sep 14, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 14, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
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"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 14, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
FUCK YOU DODGERS
Buy High,Sell Lower- The Brian Sabean methodology to Running (Ruining) the Giants
by Mordy From Monsey on Sep 14, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
/Chris Brown reads Beat Elle Aye
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/mentions fantasy baseball team
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by Giant among Angels on Sep 14, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
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by gallo del cielo on Sep 14, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
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Bowkermania runs wild...in Pittsburgh.
by rightcenterfielder on Sep 14, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
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"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
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A TABLE
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Sep 14, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
TEA LAB
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
A BLEAT
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
FUCK THE DODGERS.
thats what the online anagram-maker told me
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Beat
Eliminated
A-holes
That
Lose
Always
by 49 Giant Shark Warriors on Sep 14, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
FETCHED OK DRUGS
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Sep 14, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh man, while I totally agree, this is easily my most z’d part of any thread.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Beat Howie!
Actually, I agree.
The Magic is inside all of us.
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The joy is solely participatory.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s a certain visual pleasure in seeing Dodger hate cascading down one’s screen.
They could be Giants...but not really.
I concur.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Sep 14, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, Howie, try it.
All your friends are doing it.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
THIS
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
“You may say I’m a dreamer, but I’m not” – John Lennon.
This series scares me.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Did the Lakers do some kind of endorsement deal with the premiership?
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Why is that a bad thing?
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Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 14, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really a bad thing but I do wish I had a college team to root for.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Just start rooting for Cal.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 14, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Luckily, even Cal grads can’t misspell Cal.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
made me laugh
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Go Bears! Chop down the tree!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
You keep Chop out of this.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 14, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
/my obligatory FIGHT ON USC! reply
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Fools and Sages
F-USC.
Roll Tide.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Also
have fun watching whatever bowl you guys make it into this yea-oh, wait, sorry, well at least there’s next ye-oh. Yeah. Right. whoops.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
by Viliphied on Sep 14, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m actually not all that torn up about it. It just means that we get to play spoiler to everyone else. Well, except for UCLA, who seems to be doing a pretty fine job of doing it to themselves.
Plus, as someone whose favorite teams are the Giants and Sharks, I’m stressing enough about the post-season already.
American Heroes: Joe Pavelski, Buster Posey, David Backes
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
I’m not all that familiar with the sanctions—if USC wins the Pac-10 conference, does the runner-up go to the Rose Bowl?
Not quite...
If neither the Big 10 nor Pac-10 champions are selected for the BCS National Championship Game, the Rose Bowl will continue to honor its contract with the two conferences and host the two teams for its traditional pairing.
In this case, Pac-10 Champion = best team who is not on sanctions.
It's orange inside
USC is not eligible for the conference championship. It’s similar to what happened to Auburn in the early 90s. Even if they have the best record, they won’t be the champs. The non-USC team with the best conference record will be the champ.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
yeah, seriously.
fuck usc. Fuck them.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I agree with this comment
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 14, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
yea, have fun not getting a bowl game this year
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
The guest lecturer in my class right now is a professor at Cal. I don’t know how to feel about this.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 14, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
WHO IS IT?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s an archeologist/anthropologist. I forget her name. (I am such a horrible student.)
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 14, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Not on the syllabus.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 14, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, I only know one of the Anthro professors, and he made us read his book.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah, okay.
And, no, I’m not going to attempt to stalk you today.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 14, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
No problem. You can’t stalk me every day.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha, I was gonna give up on stalking you in general since a) I’ve probably got studying to do and b) it’s a lost cause. You’re not stalkable.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 14, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
while I am not a fan of either, typing www.stanfordrejects.com always cracks me up
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
That’s awesome.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
yeah its an epic hack by stanford nerds
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
well
it’s actually a really simple hack. Funny though
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
its awesome that its still up after all these years
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
But what if I didn't take any medication?
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
FEAR THE TREE!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
It will slowly grow roots into you. They can break apart stone you know!
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
pine needles will get in your nose and you will suffocate and die
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Fuck yeah.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 14, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
NO
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 14, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
YES!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
ON
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
YES
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 14, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
NO
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 14, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
NO
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 14, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
YES
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 14, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
NO
NO, I will never fear the tree. That tree can fear the bear with an axe.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 14, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Ummm… a bear with opposable thumbs?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn’t need ’em.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 14, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Neither do Cal students!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Be very careful where you take this, Lars
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 14, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
TREE!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
/sigh
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 14, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
I considered a TWSS there. I am glad someone stepped up.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m going to trust that you saluted with your arm.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh, it wouldn’t really have been that humorous coming from you. I have literally said this (or something similar) to you several times before.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 14, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
NO
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 14, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Can't we all . . .
. . . just get along?
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 14, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Ranked in the most recent USA Today poll!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Surprised the hell out of me, too. I figured it would take a lot more than beating Davis and Colorado to find the rankings in any poll. Next step: The AP polls.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I think this year is going to be a lot like last year.
I just hope the losses to Pac-10 teams will be less painful. And that Cal beats Stanford again.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Yeah, I don’t see any reason to expect anything much better than last year, but there are enough “ifs” to make me hopeful. Most of them have to do with Riley, though, so that should probably temper the hope.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Better than rooting for Miami
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 14, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
not saying it isnt... why i'm a WVU and Fresno State fan...
Miami= 1-0 in conference play
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Word:
The best thing about Luana Belletti, besides the fact that she’s super hot, is that she is the sister of Chelsea footballer Juliano Belletti.
Nothing will get into an opponent’s head like telling him how much you enjoyed sleeping with his sister.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
I like fútbol more than handegg.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 14, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I just finally got your username
I am really slow. Nicely done.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Ha, I get this comment every couple of months. Makes me wonder if it confuses people as much as hokys?zwxtr (RIP).
They could be Giants...but not really.
hokysmksbw
Hokey smokes, Bullwinkle!
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
I always read it as hokey smokes bbq
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
wait – I haven’t been here much lately; did hokysmks get banned?
"Bengie Molina - the quintessential double play possibility." - Jon MIller
yep
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
The thing is, it happened.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
This series scares me lot
It would be so very Dodger-like to play well in this series alone. And Kershaw / Billingsley both scare me – I’d like to see them traded for Carlos Lee, or something.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG81Bvyzi6w
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Because in five hours this park will be crawling with Dodgers...
With just one thought on their microscopic little minds – beat the Giants.
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Sep 14, 2010 1:42 PM PDT reply actions
With just one thought on their microscopic little minds – beat the Giants are there any performers in this
city to fuck?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
there are many porn starlets
I’d be ready to fuck.
And I went to music school, so I don’t exactly have a college team to root for, except my bro-in-law is a Stanford boy, so I root for Cal just to piss him off.
Rooting for the Yankees is like cheering the tanks at Tianamen Square.
Oh c’mon guys. We’ve beaten the crap out of LA heavily since July. Now, with the playoffs so close, within striking distance, you think the Giants are gonna let the bums win the series and lick their fingers in hollow joy, in the same way a fat guy eating his bucket of KFC fulls full? I understand we are all scarred, damaged-goods baseball fans, a result of years denied of having nice things, but not this time, dammit. No one will ruin this for us.
The Giants are the better team, and WILL come out on top. Carry on.
Have not had KFC in a long time
El Pollo Loco is pretty good but their chickens are ridiculously small…
Pretty much stick with Costco’s incredibly delicious but freakish big rotisserie chickens.
i dont eat any of that shit. i havent had fast food (other than taco bell twice and in’n’out 5 times) in the last 6 years.
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
i cant even eat mcdonalds, jacknbox, burger king, etc without feeling like im gonna puke, because it tastes so gross.
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Lol
Ate that freakishly big chicken for lunch….. The whole thing
by Crusher on Sep 14, 2010 2:08 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Gallo is not happy
with all this talk about eating chickens.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 14, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
With Rowand leading off?
Somebody surprise me [I haven’t read the rest of this thread yet] and tell me he isn’t leading off…. go ’head… I dare ya!
the thing is...
it happed.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
our pitching was crap at that time. whats your point? we still won 3 of 4
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
of course it will be tortured. but we will come out on top. BELIEVE!!
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
/sips water
/clears throat
/another sip
/ahem
Fuck the Dodgers
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
Diction . . .
is a lost practice.
/sigh/
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 14, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
my roommate came home yesterday
and said that he was pretty sure that he saw Andre Ethier in the mall in SF earlier in the day.
I asked if he sucker-punched him.
If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.
What store was he coming out of?
Forever 21?
Claire’s?
Giants Dugout?
I came, I saw, I told bad jokes and left.
by IanRogue on Sep 14, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He was applying at a Cinnibun.
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
they denied him for being a dodger- bad for business.
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
No dodger can work there after Broxton was abusing the employee discount.
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
this is true. broxton did work there, but he was actually fired because he couldn’t save the batch of frosting after blowing it.
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think he saw
I think he passed him in the middle of the hallway or concourse or whatever you call it.
If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.
Would rec
But it’s just so horrible.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
ahh i see. in that case, hazing or not, DAMN!!!
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants should be doing a little rookie hazing of their own here pretty soon. Last road trip of the season?
I think a leading ROTY candidate may be exempt from the rule. He produces more than most of the team
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
No, he shouldn’t be exempt. Rookies are rookies, even if they’re the best.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I’m against the concept in general, but I doubt anyone would earn an exception.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
They don’t do anything REAL goofy, usually it’s just Halloween costumes. I think they stopped making the rookies …what was that again? Paint the genitalia of some horse statue in downtown St Louis? Something like that.
They dressed Bumgarner in a ketchup bottle last year.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
as*
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Chicago.
And that was (is?) a National League-wide tradition, as was/is the rookies subsequently getting “arrested” in the locker room as the veterans tried to hide their giggles.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 14, 2010 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t like college football but this was pretty cool.
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
I’m pretty excited about this homestand, also pretty nervous… it must be September.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
I did hear it was September inside.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Sep 14, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Fathers
From ESPN’s power ranking:
The slash lines for Miguel Tejada and Ryan Ludwick, who have each played 39 games for the Padres, are .248/.306/.395 and .212/.304/.343, respectively.
…from ARod’s painting.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Well, the Tejada line should shock no one. Except dumb Padres fans.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Sep 14, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Superannuated
Every time I see in the box score that he actually got a hit, I’m amazed
¡Viva los Gigantes!
I saw that and laughed
Then wondered why it seemed like in that series in August he had 3 million hits against the Giants.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
As Bill Terry said ...
“Are the Dodgers still in the league?”
by GiantMalcontent on Sep 14, 2010 2:01 PM PDT reply actions
I love College football
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Roll Tide.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
OT: I have this song stuck in my head
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwcKde9PiQk
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Not working
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Not my kind of music
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
ribeyes
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
what
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 14, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Shredded flesh, walking corpse.
Anybody gotta trap kit? Natto needs a rim shot.
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
I AM PAT BURRELLZ'Z DADDY! (wait, that doesn't sound right)
Job 1:14-15
shocking.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Yes! And this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsW8rXPcnM0
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
On facebook I responded to a thread that said
> Astounding that I can id Christian radio stations in 4 words or less. I guess I’d otherwise have to be in sf to hear male rockers sing “the glory shines from him”, which would then not likely be Christian. (yes, driving thru the valley right now)
> There is something definitely un-Christian about true rock and roll. The preachers are right on that score I think. Christian rock can’t quite turn it up to 11 ya know?
By counter exampling w U2 “Glora”, Velvet Underground “Jesus”, Spacemen 3 “Walking With Jesus”, Rolling Stones “I Just Want To See His Face”, Neutral Milk Hotel “King of Carrot Flowers”, and the whole Simple Minds’ “New Gold Dream” album.
But damn now I have the ending part of Gloria stuck in my head …
¡Viva los Gigantes!
....and U2 is actually a Christian band....
…though they are pretty adamant about NOT promoting themselves as such.
But yes, the original posts had good points.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
My point to them was
of course “Christian Rock” is gutless, boring, and trite.
But that doesn’t mean Christian rock is (again, referencing the songs in question).
¡Viva los Gigantes!
My bad.
I don’t know as much about Velvet Underground, Spacemen 3, or Neutral Milk Hotel, but I know that the Rolling Stones and Simple Minds are clearly NOT Christian-themed in their lyrics. Poor assumption on my part that the the rest would follow suit, and yes, even the most non-Christian artists have penned pretty Christian-y songs over the years; “Christmas Song,” “Bartender,” and “You Might Die Trying,” all by Dave Matthews (who is quick to tell you he doesn’t think there’s a God) all come to mind.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
even the most non-Christian artists have penned pretty Christian-y songs over the years
Yeah. True that.
I do have to say that, if you and think and read Simple Minds’ lyrics, many of them are about the usual (love, lust, etc), but many of them (maybe most songs) also seem to be about Jesus, the Bible, God, faith, (spiritual) hope, etc. They make no secret of their faith, either.
Reciprocally, I’ve never listened to Dave Mathews. :)
I guess though because they are actually, you know, good (and subtle), they’ve never been lumped together with Amy Grant and “Christian Rock”.
¡Viva los Gigantes!
So I ordered MLB.tv for the rest of the season. Hoping it won’t lead to misery.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
Yeah. I did the same thing—-last month of the season for $30.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
$25 now.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
Does anyone else remember when MLBtv was a-la-carte? I remember being able to get a game for $1 for a while.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I remember when it was a la mode.
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
is that suppose to be apple pie?
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
Pitching matchups
All three of these pitchers give me hives. Clayton Kershaw, Chad Billingsley, and Ted Lilly
Yup. Me too. White knuckle time. Although roughing up Latos made me feel like we can deal with anyone right now.
Made me think ahead to the series at Coors. If rotations stick, we have Timmy, Zito, Cain vs. Chacin, Francis, Hammel. No Ubaldo. No De La Rosa (who bugs me more than the guys in front of him). Doesn’t mean I won’t still be nervous as hell about that series, just maybe not throwing up.
It's orange inside
All three of these pitchers give me hives. Clayton Kershaw, Chad Billingsley, and Ted Lilly
Coincidentally they all got VD from Alyssa Milano too.
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
Zito = Passanger 57
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
Beat the Dodgers
And then beat them again. And for good measure, beat them one more time after that.
It starts tonight. THROW STRIKES, ZITO!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2010 2:21 PM PDT reply actions
HAHAHAHA look at manny, he looks like he just decided to do a barrel roll for the antics.
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Dodger fail.
Literally!
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 14, 2010 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
i bleed orange and black i bleed orange and black
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on Sep 14, 2010 2:22 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
unrated.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I Am Curious
Orange and Black
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 14, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
go giants go giants
Bowkermania runs wild...in Pittsburgh.
by rightcenterfielder on Sep 14, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Are we "In This Thing?" I haven't been able to watch any games lately. All I know is it's clutch inside.
Also: SUCK IT J. RUSSELL MARTIN.
FUCK YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DODGERS!
and
Beat LA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
I AM PAT BURRELLZ'Z DADDY! (wait, that doesn't sound right)
Job 1:14-15
Links for Tuesday, 16 years after the Giants signed Yorvit Torrealba as an amateur free agent. Torrealba, a longtime Rockie, is a key part of the Padres team that’s barely holding off San Francisco and Colorado.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 14, 2010 2:23 PM PDT reply actions
Montero and Snyder ought to prevent a Torrealba surprise in Arizona, but he really is running the NL West gauntlet, seemingly wearing out his welcome everywhere he lands… killing the Giants no matter where that might be.
Snyder is in Pittsburgh now.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Sep 14, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Gantlet.
A gauntlet is a glove.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 14, 2010 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Either is acceptable. Apparently the original English word was gantelope, and both more recent spellings are found, but ‘gauntlet’ is more common.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 15, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
True, but . . .
. . . the glove is rarely if ever spelt “gantlet”, so it allows us to promote a useful distinction by always using “gantlet” for the line. Disntinctions are useful and add power to the tongue.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
But gantlet is also a railroad term…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 16, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
And?
By reserving “gauntlet” for the glove meaning, the “gantlet” form is reduced from three to two senses; that remains an improvement in clarity.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Eh, I ‘ran the gauntlet’ in football and never had a problem understanding what the coach meant. And it’s not like people wear gauntlets with any regularity any more. I suppose I’m being needlessly argumentative here… gantlet is the more specific word choice, if only rarely used.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 16, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
There's Magic Inside!
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Fuck your Guns
And Fuck your Raiders.
(Deathly scared off Saturday. Can’t stop having nightmares about the last time we went to Lubbock)
Proud adoptee of Dick Tidrow the mastermind behind Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain, Buster Posey and many more. Also known as "The Reason".
whoa, didn’t realize his Ks were that high
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
12 Ks over last 36 ABs.
The Torres argument isn’t even close to valid
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I wasn’t making an argument.
Also, in Torres’ last 82 PA (77 AB) — roughly the equivalent of the Guillen line cited above — he has 23 strikeouts.
K/PA--the only measure of how good a hitter is.
Because the McCoven wouldn’t shit themselves if we had Mark Reynolds at 3B instead of PabLOL.
Yikes.
I made an off-hand comment about how Guillen’s strikeout rate was almost like Andres Torres’ recent bout of the Kaysies and now I’m getting crucified.
Nah. This isn’t crucifying. The all caps Guillen doesn’t put out comment was to allow someone to make a blue-balls comment. No worries, dude.
yeah that’s the thing that jumped out at me as well.
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Uhhh
really? I would not be so sure about that in that same amount of ABs and with each of those other guys you get plus defense.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
What
Nate is putting up a superior line right now (.256/.325/.389) with obviously much, much better defense.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
i think if you factor defense into this, Nate would be putting up a better line, especially with the way he is hitting lately
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Could you explain how .322/.370 is better than what Nate could put up when Nate is putting up a better line than that currently?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Because if you take out March/April and Nate's recent streak (8 PAs)
you get the following:
May: .209/.293/.269
June: .200/.261/.200
July: .192/.236/.385
August .278/.381/.389
If you take out the times Jose Guillen was good, then he sucks too!
You can’t do that. The hot streaks are part of Schierholtz’s true talent level.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
YOU ARE REMOVING 1/4TH THE SAMPLE SIZE
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Yeah, you still can’t erase things that happened.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
the thing is, it happed.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
He was focused. He is no longer focused.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I am not erasing them
I am weighting them…it’s like Panda and Franchez’s lines..
Panda: Hot March/April…but pretty average sine then
Franchez…the opposite bad beginning, very good recently
...
which is reflected in their total season lines. I am not following what you are trying to argue here.
It seems you have jumped the shark my friend.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
But you can’t throw out the stuff that happened in the beginning of the season. It still happened and it’s still meaningful to the overall question of how he will hit going forward.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Most of you are much, much smarter than I am, but I still don’t know what to make of Nate Schierholtz’s line. He hasn’t played nearly enough (in my mind) to gauge how he’d hit playing full time the rest of the way. I’m sort of on the fence about Ishi in this regard, but I know he won’t hit for any power and he’s not really relevant to the discussion anyway.
Even though we cannot be sure of what Nate would do in a full season. I still trust him to outperform Guillen, the way Guillen has been playing and has a history of playing.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Yeah, I really have no clue about Nate. What we do have, at this point, are his .700-.715ish lines from the last two years, which I think are a fairly good estimation of how you can expect him to hit. And that’s about the same as Guillen, but with considerably more defensive value.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
what?
that’s not “about the same as Guillen” it’s nontrivially worse.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
unless
you’re only counting Guillen’s SF line, in which case, you’re doing the same thing JD was, except worse.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Jose Guillen 2008-2010:
.258/.308 /.417, OPS .725
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
throw 2007 in there
and oh shit!! it looks a lot better. I’m not a big fan of just ignoring data without a good reason. “it happened 4 years ago” isn’t a good enough reason.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Aaron Rowand over the last 3 years: .258/ .319/.405 (.724 OPS)
Aaron Rowand over the last 4 years: .274/ .336/.439 (.775 OPS)
Which one is a better representation of his current skill level?
Players get worse. I don’t see why three years is unreasonable to use.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
because career years
are a part of a player’s true talent level.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
for the same reason
you don’t rely on month to month splits.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
for example
ZiPS ROS projection for Guillen is a whopping 1.5% worse than his career level.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
He’s a 34 year old who’s not that athletic. I just don’t see him returning to his age 27-29 form, or even age 31.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
well
the projection systems disagree with you. Cutting his stats down to the last 3 years, and ignoring what came before is committing the same fallacy that JD was. The only difference is degree.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
No, he’s making too much of SSS results. We’re assuming that three years of declining production means the player’s true talent level is declining.
It’s possible we’re wrong, but there is a lot of evidence that Guillen’s not very good anymore. When the sample size is three years, that is actually large enough to base judgments on. When the sample size is one month, it isn’t.
That’s a pretty important difference.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
no, you're arbitrarily cutting the ss to fit your theory
he hasn’t had “three years of declining production”. He’s had 2 years below career, and one pretty much at it.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
His OPS the last three years: .738, .681, .734
I don’t see why it’s unreasonable to look at his last 1500 PAs as a basis for his current talent level. Yes, he was decent four years ago. He was also four years younger four years ago. Players get worse at hitting. It happens.
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"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
because statistics don't work that way
You expect some variance around a true talent level. No one questions that players have outlier years. When you take 3 years, and one is a pretty clear outlier, and ignore another outlier year in the other direction because of an arbitrary cutoff, you’re doing it wrong.
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I'll put it this way
if you were trying to get his true talent level for ‘10 using the previous 3 years you’d get….
wait for it….
Very close to his career wOBA.
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WOBA, Schmoba . . .
His offense the last three years combined has been well below his career levels. His TOPs have been (omitting his SF, because averaging it with KC for 2010 is more work than I care to do) as shown below. His career value to date is 778:
2008: 695 (89%)
2009: 655 (84%)
2010 (KC): 739 (95%)
He has had, like any player, up years and down years. As recently as 2007, he had a remarkably strong season. Right now, I would not play him because his leg injury makes him a serious liability in the field and on the bases—but his performance over his last three seasons is certainly not like his career. How much of which seasons were injury-affected I don’t know and am, again, too lazy to try to determine.
He remains useful off the bench in a September-roster situation.
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his performance this season
IS very much like his career. His performance in ’08 was only about 8% off of his career.
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Measure as you will . . .
. . . whether the 8% you get from I know not whence or the 11% I get from a metric I know and trust, that is not “only” as falloffs go. A performance 8% off—much less the correct 11%—is off by a lot.
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yes but
it’s also one whole season. (the 8% is from wRC+, basically OPS+ for wOBA).
One off season is not significant.
Really, I’m surprised to be getting this argument from you, given your penchant for using a player’s career stats for projection.
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It would be hard to fathom how he could do any worse
than Guillen.
Recently, he has probably had as many hits off the bench as Guillen has had playing full time.
I’ll admit a bias in that I don’t like Nate’s swing. His approach has looked better, though. In past years, and maybe even the earlier part of this year, you could really see him “trying” and panicking.
I’ll take the plus defense and the possibly better walk potential. I don’t think he’d ever out-slug Guillen, but that dude strikes out way too much and is a defensive and basepath-running liability (when Nate isn’t getting picked off).
Additionally
Guillen’s value is in his bat and the ability to drive in runners with it. So for him to be worth anything
1) people have to be on base when he hits
2) he has to hit for power
He has not been hitting for power, with only 1 HR and 4 doubles SLG .370. When he does hit, he strands himself on the basepath as he cannot go 1st to 3rd or score from 2nd on a single.
There is no reason he should be starting over other outfield options like Ross or Nate.
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I agree this
I have not watched that many Guillen PAs but it seem like he hits the ball hard enough for xBAs…
No, not really.
And any that would get through are only going to be doubles.
Nate could also stretch a double into a triple or single into a double
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I disagree this
It seems he hits the ball hard enough? Look at the numbers.
"Bengie Molina - the quintessential double play possibility." - Jon MIller
his BABIP
is almost 70 points above his career average since the trade. So claiming he’s hitting the ball hard and they’re just not falling right is pretty hilarious.
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Wow
you mean he has been hitting like this and still has been LUCKY?
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ugh
not really.
His season BABIP is right around his career average. this recent streak of “luck” even with the poor overall line is just SSS chicanery.
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It could be because he is not a good hitter.
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You can scratch that ticket all you want, it’s already a loser.
"Bengie Molina - the quintessential double play possibility." - Jon MIller
...different ticket.
Eventually you will run out of straws.
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I agree.
I just wish Nate made it easier to argue that it should be him getting the playing time, because we’re definitely focused on it just not being Guillen at this point. It should be Nate and not Guillen because Nate will not be Guillen mostly.
Can't we all just agree
Jose Guillen sucks.
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Okay...
I’ll admit Guillen sucks only if someone says that Nate sucked in May, June, and July of 2010
LOL MONTH SPLITS
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And Barry Bonds sucked that one time, too!
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Again...not throwing them out
I am weighing them differently…it’s great that Nate got off to a great start but dropped off the face of the earth in May, June, and July…average August and a hot 8 PA in September so far…
Personally, I would like for him to play especially with Torres out…Ross in Center and Nate in RF.
Aubrey Huff had an awesome July… would you have said going into August, that he’d be more likely to hit like he did in July or like he did back in April?
Because he ended up hitting like April. Monthly splits have no predictive value.
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Slumps are obviously parts of hitting
but Huff has shown that he is solid for most of the year…just like Heyward dipping but coming back with even better
I am just not sold on Nate not just because of this year but the last few years…he seems great for a short stretch and when given the chance to start…nothing.
Do you see how “I’m weighting good and bad streaks differently, but I’m not concerned with slumps” is a fairly contradictory thing to say.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
There is a duration issue
If you slump for two weeks…it’s a slump…if you slump for 3 months you are not doing well
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by gallo del cielo on Sep 14, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I do not see a chance to start in any of his time here.
And you cannot classify the “Bowker Start” as in a few games in a row.
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You are not weighing them differently
you are using them incorrectly.
You cannot pick monthly values and disregard them because “they may have been a hot streak” or “not weigh them as much” Trying to do this with monthly splits will drive you insane.
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I am not disregarding them
If Nate put his May/April numbers in July and then put up his August and Sept number…I would say the opposite…
Huh? At this point, I truly have no idea what you’re even saying.
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So
Because he had a good month in the wrong order is why you are down on him over Guillen?
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I was talking more about the line stat
He had a very hot March/April and then slumped for three months after that…August was decent and a hot Sept so far…
Guillen’s stats are obviously different as a Giant than as a Royal…
So conversely
by this logic, couldn’t Nate be on the upswing into a hot streak?
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He could...
I just don’t know…my point is that Guillen’s line is not bad especially in light of what Nate was doing in July…
Actually Ross has disappointed me more…but maybe SSS
Schierholtz in July: .190 / .236 / .385
Guillen in July: .207 / .261 / .354
Your argument makes no sense whatsoever.
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So we can hold Schierholtz’s July against him, but Guillen’s is wholly irrelevant becuase he was a Royal then?
You’re just fucking with me now, right?
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He will never admit he is wrong. Forgot you missed some time and are new to his shtick.
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Then. Just. Stop.
Admitting you’re wrong would be appreciated, but isn’t necessary.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
No...
I was talking about how Guillen did after he got here…in comparison to what Nate was doing in July.
Guillen’s July number really has nothing to with the discussino
Mmmmmm…. appleorangeade.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
it's delicious...
/Farva
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Wow
So you are comparing what players do at different points in the season as a basis for what they will do from now on.
Even by your logic this should not make sense. Nate has been better more recently than Guillen was. The last time Guillen put up even a useful month was June.
But that does not matter because he was a Royal then.
He has not had a good stretch since he came to the Giants.
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Which is relevant how?
You’re evaluating his talent level in comparison with Schierholtz. They were essentially the same hitter in July (which you’re claiming is important), and Schierholtz plays much better defense. Schierholtz inarguably had a better month, so you can’t hold it against him when you’re comparing him to Guillen.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
He had like 150 PA combined in those three months.
Jose Guillen in July-now: .615, .646, .488 OPS – in a combined 160-ish PA.
Hmm.
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None of that is relevant. You’re looking for causation where there isn’t any.
Use the big sample size to determine how good a player is. Like, if you see my Sandoval example below, if you discounted his hot April when projecting how he’d hit after the All-Star Break, you would have done a significantly worse job projecting his numbers than if you just used his season line.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
He dropped off the face of the earth
Because Bochy stopped playing him. The end of may was when he stopped playing frequently. If you look at June-July-August he has a total of 90 PAs from June-August.
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t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
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First half: .285 / .348 / .360 (.708)
Second half: .286 / .324 / .385 (.709)
It’s almost as though Freddy Sanchez is Freddy Sanchez and arbitrary splits are arbitrary.
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I was going to say
Freddy had a very hot start when he came back from injury. He was hitting doubles all over the place.
GODDAMMIT, YOU BROKE THE FIRST RULE OF TAUTOLOGY CLUB!
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
He didn’t say the first rule of tautology club was the second rule of tautology club, so I think you’re good.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
No, the second rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s not the first rule.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Whew!
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t worry. There is definitely a club because there is definitely a club.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I was going to say
what I was going to say.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 14, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s the first rule!
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that may clear some things up
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Spoilsport.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I think this may be the wrong club for you.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Pablo Sandoval
Pre All-Star Break: 263/.322/.382 (including his hot start)
Post All-Star Break: .274/.323/.457
The good times are part of his talent level.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
That is a perfectly cromulent post-ASB line… except that Panda’s being counted on to be much, much better than that for the offense.
not really anymore
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It cracks me up that someone can be so terribly wrong, and instead of manning up to it, sorts through various stats to pick what he wants to support his position. It’s like a “at least the trains ran on time” mentality.
We gave it a week, and we did not win the damn lottery.
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if we're basing everything on arbitrary splits
Post-All Star Break:
Guillen: .221 / .262 / .318
Schierholtz: .275 / .351 / .451
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Guillen has been given his opportunity to prove his worth
and he has failed miserably.
I cannot imagine that Cody or Nate wouldn’t perform at least at the same level or better at the plate and there is no dispute about in the field.
It is inexcusable to continue to play Guillen at this point.
why don't we just
not base anything on arbitrary splits.
Guillen is a significantly better hitter than Nate. Nate is a significantly better fielder than Guillen.
Who is actually better overall is up in the air, depending on how much you value the fielding numbers and Nate’s potential to improve. Anyone who says the question is settled is wrong.
End of discussion.
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Period.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Ellipsis.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
THE DISCUSSION IS OVER
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
WHAT IF I WANT TO DISCUSS SOMETHING ELSE!
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No, it's not.
The observation that Guillen is a better hitter than Schierholtz is based on inadequate data for Schierholtz. During periods of nontrivial duration, when he has been played with regularity, he has hit quite well. The cumulative duration of those periods is not great enough to permit saying that Schierholtz is definitely a pretty good hitter, but it is enough to be seriously suggestive. Were it me, and positing for discussion no changes in personnel, he’d be the 2011 starting right fielder.
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I'd still go for Ross
but it doesn’t really matter, because we’re not talking about 2011
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to be more clear
I agree that Nate may have a higher true talent hitting ability than Guillen, but you’re right that we can’t tell from our current data set. What we can tell is that in the opportunities they’ve been given, Guillen has been nontrivially better than Nate. It’s quite possible that the manner in which they’ve gotten their opportunities has been depressing his true talent, but I can’t really blame the Giants for not being willing to run that experiment in the last 18 games of a tight pennant race.
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also
I’m not really familiar enough with your playing time argument, but Nate did get at least one PA in 113 games last year, with about half a season’s worth of total PAs, with only 2 significant (>2gm) breaks, so I’d say he was playing regularly
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True, but . . .
. . . I’d be inclined even now to give Schierholtz RF, using Ross to sub for Torres. In fact, I wouldn’t “be inclined”, I’d just do it.
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Oh good.
An argument that involves removing problem factors. These always convince people.
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Also, the man looks taller than the cab of the truck.
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Not necessary
depends on the perspective. He could be closer to the viewer.
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In which case, he still looks taller than the cab.
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WHO WAS TALKING TO YOU?
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Ever stood next to the cab of a truck? They’re usually pretty tall!
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Cause they are on wheels.
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No! I have never stood next to the cab of a truck!
Please explain the experience in detail.
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If I take out Jose Guillen’s March/April and his June, then his season line looks pretty terrible too.
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But he’s a veteran slugger, so that would be inappropriate.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
You’re right, he has a larger sample size to work with. Like 2008-09 when he didn’t hit very well.
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LOTTO!
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I love those sorts of things.
And if you take out plate appearances in which he made out, he’s got an OBP of 1.000. And if you take out plate appearances in which he didn’t get on base, his OBP is zero. And if you take out all his plate appearances, he hasn’t been in a game yet.
Sheesh.
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by owlcroft on Sep 14, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
ditto
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Ishikawa’s line is .264/.308/.392, which is basically the same thing.
And, like jponry said, Schierholtz is hitting better than that.
And they’re both good at defense and Guillen isn’t.
And it’s possible for both of them to score from second on a single.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
DUDE HITS DOUBLES
Also, lol racist, all look same, etc.
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dude turns doubles into singles
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Is this a jeopardy question?
“Who is Bengie Molina?”
I think certain people are determined to find good in a player no matter how bad he is. Jose Castillo was the perfect example and Jose Guillen is pretty similar. His running/fielding/mobility still impresses me with how bad it is.
Ask me about my blog.
He’s the anti-Fred Lewis!
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Or anti-Sergio-Romo-from-earlier-this-year!
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Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
I'm more impressed with the fact that with his current abilities
he is still able to get himself penciled into a starting line-up almost every game.
bruce bochy
Also getting manager of the year votes.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I think the people who were defending Jose Castillo knew they were being silly.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
But his range is worse than Renteria’s!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I hate you so much.
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GIVE HIM A WEEK
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surprise...
My lottery ticket turned out to be a loser.
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just for the record
James Madison Unviersity, alma mater of my wife, is located in Harrisonburg, Virginia, home of xanthan the spambot.
Being in Tallahassee, I’m in college football country for the first time in my life, and it’s weird. So foreign to me, because I don’t like football and I went a college where the closest thing to a sports program was the Anarchist Frisbee Club, where people got together and weirded out the normals by playing ultimate frisbee in public spaces where it wouldn’t be expected.
So yeah. I must admit to getting some perverse pleasure if FSU being beaten so badly this past week. All that school spirit is a little too much for me to take.
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Also, vanquish the Brooklyn Superbas, etc.
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Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
I always read that as Brooklyn Superbras
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Re: "All that school spirit is a little too much..."
What? Yeah, he’s right here. Okay, hold on.
The University of Alabama would like to speak to you.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
:(
Not sure if this was posted earlier, but…from Buster Olney’s twitter
Andres Torres needed an appendectomy, and rival GMs think that is a procedure that requires major recovery time. “2-3 months,” said 1 GM.
That’s the first time I’ve ever heard of recovery time being that long for an appendectomy.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 14, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
it can depend on whether or not it ruptured, went septic, etc.
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Ah, I see.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 14, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t want to see “septic” in the same sentence as any of my internal organs. Ew.
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yeah, you really don't
talk about a nasty shit…
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you also don’t want to hear the story I know concerning a ‘herpetic stoma’
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That is disgusting.
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oh yes
yes it is.
BTW, the stoma in question was where the patient’s colostomy bag attached.
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I really, really don’t want to know how someone could herpes on their stoma.
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Public toilet seats, or so I’m reliably informed.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Public toilet seats are the cause of many societal ills.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
And yet I can’t get my 5 year old to quit touching them all over.
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Even with the colostomy bag?
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
you wanna gross out your kid? Do the whole explaining about germs thing… then take 2 slices of white bread (you can use wheat, but white bread REALLY shows the contrast) take one slice immediately from the bag and stick it in a ziplock baggie, take the other slice and run it around the toilet seat area, or have her wipe her nose with it or something….stick that slice in a different ziplock bag. Put both bags in a warm dark location for a few days, or a week, and then (after having first called a hazmat crew) have her look at the difference between “clean” and “swarming with germs.”
Oh and if your clean bread turns the same motley olive drab color as your other slice??? Find a new place to buy your bread!!!
Oh, she knows all about germs. She just can’t seem to help herself.
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this bugs me
there was a similar “experiment” done at my son’s elementary school (although no toilet stuff). What you SEE is not bacteria — it’s mostly mold. Bacteria is usually invisible, although you can sometimes see it as a thin film or whaterver. DANGEROUS bacteria is basically never visible.
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Why would you ever let silly things like facts
get in the way of education?
Are germs specifically bacteria or any microorganism? Seems like a perfectly good way to illustrate that there are invisibly small creatures everywhere… as long as you’re telling them the things they actually see are molds I suppose.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Re: microorganisms — she also likes the idea that the stink on her feet comes from a by-product of the microorganisms that like her foot sweat. She’s a weird kid.
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I usually don’t get into a long rambling speech about bacteria. It’s about clean and dirty. It’s more about YOUR FREAKING HANDS ARE DiRTY!!!! WASH THEM!!!! AND QUIT WIPING YOUR BOOGERS ALL OVER EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There’s nothing like grabbing a kid by the wrist and ending up with a hand full of goo.
Wait… I’m not supposed to be wiping my boogers all over everywhere?
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course not
You’re supposed to be eating them
really? I def will have kids someday. I think when you have a kid and it’s half of you, that gross factor disappears
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope – they’re still gross. You just build up a certain tolerance.
(Note: I have two. I often encourage their grossness. Because it’s fun.)
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Doesn’t matter who you are,
we didn’t give a damn,
we even put teachers down with the program
Whether it was a woman or if you’re a man
We put boogers in our fingers then shake your hand
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This is true. However, if any of those had happened, Andres would be in the ICU and the team would be freaking out. He should (SHOULD) be back to normal in a couple weeks.
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Well, he just circled around and caught a fly ball while you were wondering...
…but other than that we’re not sure.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Months...
… if it’s an open incision (old school surgery). But Andres’ was done laparoscopically.
It's orange inside
OMG SO THEY CUT HIS ABDOMIN OFF?!!
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that would explain
Marvin Benard
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There's "recovery" and there's "recovery":
If “recovery” means able to be up and walking about and doing most of the normal activities of everyday life, that’s one thing; but if we mean able to run all out and possibly slam into the ground or a wall, hour in and hour out every day, that’s perhaps something different.
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OK, a little homework:
One article says:
The pace of recovery during the appendectomy recovery period is likely to depend on the patient’s overall health. The time frame during which care is to be taken is usually between 10 and 28 days. . . . Patients can expect to resume their normal activities about 4 to 6 weeks after surgery. [emphasis added]
The NIH says about the same thing:
Full recovery from surgery takes about 4 to 6 weeks. Limiting physical activity during this time allows tissues to heal.
The Surgery Channel site also confirms:
Normal activities can be resumed within a few days, but it takes 4 to 6 weeks for full recovery. Heavy lifting and strenuous activity should be avoided during recovery.
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Too bad he’s not on the Red Sox. Then he could play through it and be a national hero.
by yankeessuck8991 on Sep 14, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
“said Dan O’Dowd”
“said Jed Hoyer”
“said Frank Wren”
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Come on, guys. I think we have to give the benefit of the doubt to the Giants medical staff. They’ve never mislead us before, have they!?
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by Giant_in_la_area on Sep 14, 2010 3:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That is total bunk
Everyone else is saying 2-3 weeks tops.
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Oh, I definitely take it with a grain of salt. But I take the 10-14 days thing a little lightly too, I think the truth is probably somewhere in between. I’m hoping that with Torres’s physical shape it will be ~a month. At least it didn’t rupture.
I mean, this is also not just him recovering enough to resume daily activities. He has to play pennant race / playoff baseball at a high level, so it might take a little longer than you typically hear for an appendectomy (don’t know of any past baseball players who have had one).
perhaps
if it were a burst appendix and the patient was a 72 yr old obese person who lived an extremely sedentary lifestyle.
with diabetes and lupus, comorbid.
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FYI
Just did some quick research. Two examples of players I found who had appendectomies -
Aaron Harang had an appendectomy August 23, 2009, was out for the season. Don’t know if it ruptured, etc.
Tim Stauffer actually had one earlier this year on May 12, and was throwing bullpens by the beginning of June and was throwing rehab starts end of June. Activated first week of July.
Was Stauffer the one that diagnosed himself?
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 14, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Zito needs to start throwing 90-92 again with a hard cutter, his dominant overhand curve, and his hard change up.
/dreams
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I think this is the most positive thing I’ve ever seen you post here.
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LOL WUT?
I’m all the epitomizes optimism and positive vibes.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
*all that
but yeah I’m pretty much the most buoyant and exuberant giants fan of all time.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I’m sooo hiiiiigh.
/towlie
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You wanna get high?
NO TOWLIE WE DON’T WANNA GET HIGH!
oh.. alright then.
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Worst SP character by far.
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Sep 14, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
wrong, Towelie is amazing.
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
My last name
Is Towell
my nickname at work is towelie
I am amazing
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Zito threw 90-92 once?
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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Get a room you two!
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HUZZAH!
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#sfgiants Tues lineup: Ross rf Sanchez 2b Huff 1b Posey c Burrell lf Uribe ss Sandoval 3b Rowand cf Zito p
Rowand not leading off and no Guillen!
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by scout6 on Sep 14, 2010 3:13 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I am shocked
I was expecting something along the lines of rowand CF sanchez 2b huff 1b posey c guillen RF burrell LF uribe 3b renteria SS but hey I guess bork must be drunk or something.
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who is this "Ross" character
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extremely whiny
fathers a child and then never sees him
then, the actor that plays him does a PSA about ‘talking to your kids’
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This is a decent looking lineup.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 14, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Not bad
I’d prefer Ross in cf and Nate in rf but we all knew Scotty would be in there until Andre gets back.
Veteran grit
He’s got a ring bro
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I’d like to see Ross in CF and Rowand in RF because Rowand has more experience in AT&T RF.
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Huh?
I don’t know if I’ve ever seen Rowand play anything other than center field for the Giants. Nate is the one with experience in RF.
I don’t think he has. That’s why when both he and Torres would start, Torres would take a corner. Bochy has said that Rowand is simply “more comfortable” in center, so that’s where he plays.
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over the last 3 years, im sure he’s played more than 9 innings in RF
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno – Baseball Ref seems to show all his innings since 2004 have been in CF.
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Why would you ever play a gold glove center fielder in right?
/said with tongue firmly planted in cheek
wow. you’d think he’d have played just one, one game out of 500+ in RF, at least if only to get a little RF AT&T exp in case it is needed (like right now)
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
weird, but a few months ago, Baggs researched it and came up with all CF as a Giant. I’ll see if I can find that ref.
i believe you. im just surprised, is all. though bork would at least give him exp just in case of an emergency start
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Just check baseball ref. It lists the number of innings played in CF and in the more general OF each season Since 2004, the numbers are identical. No need to reinvent the wheel.
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Easily found data:
In Rowand’s 10-year major-league career:
LF: 98 G, 3 GS
RF: 42 G, 15 GS
That’s roughly one LF start every 3 years, and 2 RF starts every season, on average. His last non-CF appearance was in 2004, as a RF, starting 8 games there and appearing there in 4 more.
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so it’s safe to assume he never played in RF at AT&T, unless that happened to come when he was in town with the phillies
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
if you are not
going to play Rowand when Torres is out… just cut him and eat the $30M.
It’s not like he has trade value.
And while I am no Rowand fan… Rowand / Schierholtz / Ross / Guillen – they are all pretty bad starters but MEH 4th OFs. And when your starter goes out… you have to play a back up.
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Ross isn’t a bad starter. He’s a good player in a down year. Look at his career lines, def NOT a 4th OF
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
meh, OK he's a notch above them.
He’s 30 and has 2 years as a full time average OF. Obviously he was gangbusters in 1/2 a season in 2007.
I didn’t realize that he used to hit for some power.
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I think he’s still capable of hitting for power again next year- sometimes guys have down years, but that doesn’t mean they’ve lost it, esp only at 30. The Giants plan to keep him around for next year.
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Ross has a pretty serious platoon split
.253/.309/.409 vs RHP
.288 /.349/.592 vs LHP
His monster season in 2007 was partly because 38% of his PAs were against LHP.
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I think that higher avg against lefties only means something when you play everyday. You can’t only put him in vs lefties and expect that he will hit that well. Look at this year (with SF). He isn’t hitting well because he is the type of guy who needs to play everyday to produce.
That’s just my take
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
But he wasn’t playing every day in 2007 when he put up career-year numbers; he was platooned. He only started 42 games and 26 of those were against LH starters.
And it’s not just higher average, it’s almost 200 points of SLG as well.
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oh, i thought those 42 games were due to injury
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
That 7-8-9 is still so, so brutal… unless Pablo’s home hitting is for real. But you can’t hit and run with either of those guys and you can’t even count on productive outs or walks from the 8 hole… might’ve made sense to bat Zito 8th.
If rowand and pablo would just take as many pitches as possible
They’d make our line up that much deeper and annoying. Instead they will both be 1-2 pitch automatic outs and leave giants fans screaming.
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Why isn't Guillen?!
prays for a 3-4 night for Cody, with stellar defense
i would have switched uribe and sandoval seeing as how we’re at AT&T, but that does no good with rowand 8th.
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
it also would have been nice to see Ross in CF, and Nate in right, batting 8th (instead of Scott)
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I love Bochy’s continued insistence on playing the inferior defender in center. Love it!
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Correct me if I'm wrong
But I though Rowand was a pretty good CF defensively…certainly better than Ross
Hmm, I had the impression that Ross was better than the recent vintage of Rowand. Just an impression with no statistical evidence and I’ll gladly admit if I’m wrong.
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At ATT, vroom might actually be a bigger asset in right.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Rowand defense
I have never had a reason to think that he was not a pretty CF…nice catches but no arm…but more experience playing at AT&T
I'd flip a coin between Rowand and Ross in center
Ross looks to have a better and more accurate arm than Rowand and probably throws to the right base most of the time.
I haven’t seen Ross fall on his ass yet, allowing what should have been a caught ball to be a 2-run triple (the shattered bat Gonzalez play doesnt count) and then get picked 2nd, killing a rally in the next half inning. (Rowand, SD series last month)
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Sequence of events:
1. Bochy flips coin
2. Coin lands on its side
3. Bochy has both Ross and Rowand bat leadoff, with ross hitting from the left side, Rowand from the left.
4. Rowand and Ross break each other’s feet swinging at sliders.
5. Success?
by yankeessuck8991 on Sep 14, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I just made a comment a little bit above here, but Bochy has said he does that because Rowand is more comfortable in center. I don’t want to watch him learn another part of the field at this point.
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I just don’t want to watch him.
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I agree. Guillen out, for Ross? amazing.
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
though it would make me feel better if Ross was in CF, otherwise I’m thinking that tomorrow, Guillen is back in RF and Rowand is in CF, instead of Ross. Hopefully, Rowand is only in CF because that’s what he’s used to, not because that’s how it’s gonna be.
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Tonight's Lineup:
Ross RF, Sanchez 2B, Huff 1B, Posey C, Burrell LF, Uribe SS, Sandoval 3B, Rowand CF, Zito P
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I like this line up a lot
minus the whole faster jose guillen in center.
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BREAKING NEWS
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 14, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
ANYONE KNOW WHAT THE LIENUP IS
I BET RO-RO IS LEADING OFF RITE
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Tonight's Lineup:
Ross RF, Sanchez 2B, Huff 1B, Posey C, Burrell LF, Uribe SS, Sandoval 3B, Rowand CF, Zito P
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Lineup...properly formatted
Ross RF
Sanchez 2B
Huff 1B
Posey C
Burrell LF
Uribe SS
Sandoval 3B
Rowand CF
Zito P
His original line up was
Rowand CF
Renteria SS
Huff 1B
Guillen RF
Burrell LF
Posey C
Uribe 3B
Sanchez 2B
Then zito promptly choked bruce bochy until he regained his senses.
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by sfgiants420 on Sep 14, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So you're saying Bochy's dead?
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Has been for quite a while . . .
. . . just forgot to fall over.
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I think his his original line up was
Rowand CF
Renteria SS
Ishikawa1B
Guillen RF
Velez LF
Whiteside C
Rohlinger 3B
Burriss 2B
Zito P
Then Steve Decker ripped it up and made him do it over.
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
at least we got what we wanted- no rowand in the leadoff spot. I actually advocated for the Commander leading off, so that’s good. Don’t disappoint me now Cody.
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
don’t talk about the Commander as if he were a Rowand!!!
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
AT BEST
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
and they showed Bowker and Molina highlights…
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
PIKA! Clippers final playoffs! Why aren’t you up here?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
FACEBOOK FUN
Abel man do i hate rowand put someone else than rowand
Laurie Go Giants! Beat the Bums! Let’s run the gammet!
Rizel Y it is,everytime I check out the schedule we’re d Doyers! Dang
Rigo wat happened to torress?
Ed all the so called giants fans…all the negitive comments are not called for…get behind your team and root for them or just dont say anything
David Zito got this Ross intersting
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Im guessing
Zito’s got this. Ross, interesting
by Artimus Clyde on Sep 14, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it’s “Zito has got this. Ross, that’s interesting.”
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 14, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
do you love it?
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
I’m pretty sure it’s “Zito has the runs. Interesting.”
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Barry has introduced Cody to the joys of listening to the frontman for The Police?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
WE DON’T NEED NO STINKING PUNCTUATION
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 14, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
The Answer Man
Well Rigo, Torress got sick and have to have an S removed from his surname. He’s feeling much better now. And Laurie, clearly a “gammet” is a major newspaper conglomerate that owns, among others, USA Today and the Montgomery (Ala.) Advertiser.
Keep those cards and letters coming, folks.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
LOL
Oh man. Laughing and crying.
"Bengie Molina - the quintessential double play possibility." - Jon MIller
Ed thinks you all should ENJOY THE GAME
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I can’t stand people that get mad when you criticize your team. If you watch every game, you can’t help but criticize things!
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Sep 14, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I am reminded of a James Baldwin quote
Paraphrasing here: “I love America more dearly than any other nation in the world, and for precisely that reason I insist upon the right to criticize her perpetually.”
(the writer, not the ex-Dodgers, ex-White Sox pitcher)
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
Is that the Baldwin that can only get infomercial work?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
The only thing wrong with this is that the Giant in question is Velez.
Nah, it’s ok. It helps me tolerate him.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Are they trying to relive that wonderful moment?
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 14, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Tonight's Lineup
K Lofton CF
R Aurilia SS
J Kent 2B
B Bonds LF
B Santiago C
R Sanders RF
J Snow 1B
D Bell 3B
J Schmidt P
Mays' Field McCovey's Cove Bonds' Bleachers
LOL DAMON
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Now that was a line-up
Thanks for depressing me…
FROM PURPLE ROW: (regarding how the padres are cheating)
I’m afraid we’re falling into their trap…
all this talk about the LOLCHEATERZ Rockies, what if they’re actually just trying to distract from something else that’s really going on??
I actually started thinking about this last night, watching another scrub rookie from Sandy Eggo making our hitters look silly. I mean, we’ve all seen it 1,000 times, right?? Where do they keep coming up with these guys? Then it hit me. Maybe they can come up with the guys anywhere, because what really makes them good isn’t the pitchers, but what they do to the ball.
So I did a little research, and did you know that Bud Black was actually a teammate of one Gaylord Perry back in the early years of his career? Kansas City, 1983. I wonder just how much Bud may have learned from Gaylord. Or maybe it’s just coincidence that once he started coaching, his staffs always seem to have guys coming out of nowhere to suddenly turn into great pitchers (Lackey, Santana, Young, Lubekey, Richard, Latos, etc. etc.). Sure, people like to say it’s just a pitchers park, but if something else weren’t going on, would their results be translating away from PetDoor Park the way they have?? It’s funny how you never hear them address things like that, isn’t it?? Instead, they just run around pointing at the Rockies "Look at them! CHEATERZ!!!" Did you ever know a kid on the playground who was accusing somebody else of cheating that wasn’t cheating himself??
At first I wondered why, with all this going on right on the mound in front of the umpires for years, why the umpires never caught them. The unfortunate answer can only be that they are in on it. It makes me sad to say it, but clearly MLB has ordered the umpires to ignore the Padres pitchers doctoring the baseballs. Why would they do that, you ask?? It’s simple, really. Bud Selig hates cold weather games. He’s sick of Colorado and Philadelphia in October/November. He wants to go hang out on the beach in Sandy Eggo.
It’s also interesting to note that Bruce Bochy played with Joe "emory board" Niekro when he came to the majors in Houston, and that Joe’s son Lance Niekro played for the Giants just a few years ago. Also interesting is the fact that the Giants, since Niekro played there and Bochy arrived as manager, have suddenly developed some fairly dominant pitchers themselves. Also, is it coincidence that just after Tim Lincecum had his little run in with the state police last offseason (and might have been reluctant to engage in any rule-breaking for a while as a result – keep his nose clean, so to speak) that his effectiveness fell off the map for several months (just long enough to get his nerve back to return to the style of pitching that Bochy has taught his pliable pupils, perhaps??)
Obviously, nothing is proven yet. But it may be something MLB ought to be looking into…. :=/
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 3:28 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Sandy Eggo. They’re so clever.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 14, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
In private they refer to it as Sandy Negro.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
So I’m to understand this, the poster thinks we’re all suspicious of the Rockies cheating because we ourselves are cheating and marijuana is a performance enhancing drug?
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"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 14, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
You have to admit, you couldn’t have thought of that.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
But then by thinking it and posting it on the message board, does this poster now himself become a cheater? And does that mean that his team is therefore cheating? And if they are cheating, did they cheat because we were all cheating or are we cheating because they were the original cheaters?
Deductive reasoning is fun when you don’t actually have to use any logic!
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 14, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, that poster’s allegations of cheating just go to show that clearly the Rockies are doing the humidor cheat, which is why their fans are so defensive about it. But we and the Padres are also cheating, which is why we’ve been bringing up the humidor thing so much.
Somebody needs to clean this sport up. All this cheating going on!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I think you've been chasmed
all the way from another message board
Funny thing
I really hope you’re right. Because there’s way too much stupid going on in this post.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 14, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
i told the guy who posted it how rediculous that is, and he said that was the biggest compliment one could get because that’s how rediculous the HUMIDOR cheater thing is. He was trying to put it in anothers perspective, I guess.
So yeah, Prussian, you fell in.
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
but who knows? maybe he wrote it as a joke, but to himself, he actually believed it.
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I am amazed . . .
. . . that anyone thought else, even for an instant.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
BREAKING
INTERNET REPORTS INDICATE BARRY BONDS INTRODUCED TIM LINCECUM TO MARIJUANA
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
Whatever.
Better than Dustin Ackley’s voracious cocaince habit.
I like how it is conveniently ignored that Timmy was pretty damn good to start the season. So apparently he didn’t decide to “keep his nose clean” until June.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I was listening to the Padres post game last night. And they were talking about …how somebody else was talking about the Rockies late inning weirdness and an inconsistent use of humidored baseballs. I don’t know who the guy was referring to, sounded like maybe there was a print article somewhere, and unfortunately my radio doesn’t have rewind so I’ll never know… but it’s not just Jon talkin smack.
i think I heard
a snippet last night of a caller insinuating that the Rockies were using humidored baseballs while pitching and non-humidored balls while batting. Not sure if that’s what the guy was getting at as I just heard a few seconds of this call before I had to get out of the car.
If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.
the pads announcers said they had “sources” from “GMs, managers, and players”.
yeah, right
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
This has to be PR version of chasm. Right?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Wow.
“So, how do we get people to stop talking about the humidor?”
“Maybe an even crazier conspiracy theory would work.”
“I don’t know about—”
“Maybe your mom would work.”
“Fine. Conspiracy theory. I don’t care.”
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
This is hilarious and it sounds like this guy is dead serious
LOL PURPLE ROW
“WHY IS OUR OFFENSE SO GOOD AT HOME YET SO BAD ON THE ROAD? WE HAVE TO FIGURE THIS OUT!!!”
durrrrr.
How can a entire fan base be so blind to the one thing that is the entire existence of their team?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
You conveniently did NOT comment on the most controversial issue in this post: Is marijuana a performance enhancing drug?
Stop dodging the real issue here, 420!
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 14, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Funny you should say that, I’ve always wanted to hang out with Leslie Stahl
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"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 14, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Depending on your voice range, I don’t think you’d have too much trouble on that. Do you think you can be as gritty sounding as him? I’ve always wanted to pay him to read me hard-boiled detective fic
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 14, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Can I be Andy Rooney? I’ve been working on being more curmudgeonly.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
If you can ramble at length about nothing in particular — but sound really adamant about it — then yes, you can have the job.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
he posts on McCC
clearly he’s qualified
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
It’ll be tough to adapt to a longer format, but I think I can do it.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Give me a thousand words on how potatoes used to taste better and you’re hired!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I’ve always wanted to do “reader’s theater” but they don’t do that here in Sac, not sure people here read…
I like the idea that my voice is smoother and younger-sounding. It might take a little getting used to for Sunday Morning’s audience, but I think the strength of the program would be retained through the material covered. Plus, I think I could definitely keep up the standard of good writing on the show.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
You have a unique and interesting voice. And I like your writing style. As long as you don’t sound like Ralph Barbierie or whatever, I think you have a future in radio.
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"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 14, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I also like how his theory ignores the fact that Tim was caught in the off-season, and started off the year good before pitching bad.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Sep 14, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Clearly smoking fat dank gives you extra pop on your fastball and inspires you to get conditioned like your name is brian wilson.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 14, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is why I’m in such good condition.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Was this written by Orly Taintz?
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
BREAKING NEWS: Local baseball player linked to mosque construction at Ground-Zero.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 14, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
The next day...
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I hated when all these illegal immigrants come to the US
and take jobs away from Americans…
Timmy just jumped in and took the no. 1 spot…
is it? i just closed the window after copying that. lol
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Bud Selig hates cold weather teams in the post season.
Must be going crazy that the Yankees are going to make the post season again. Also no one at MLB wants the Phils, all those ratings they were going to draw. The people will only want to see San Diego because of the nice weather.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Sep 14, 2010 4:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Follow up posts are almost as good
And the word “humidor” explains how the Rockies are cheating
totally? That’s all the explanation needed? That the humidor exists??
You don’t think you need to explain how it isn’t the same effect for both teams? Is it that they are switching balls between half innings? Do you need to address the fact that the balls have a camera trained on them all the time? The fact that MLB actively monitors the humidor??
I think the LOLZHUMIDOROZ garbage requires a lot more explanation of how, exactly, it involves cheating than the idea that pitchers are using time honored methods of altering the baseball does.
Followed by
Or at least evidence that an actual formal complaint has been made with MLB
..you know, by someone other than a crap for brains radio announcer like Jon Miller or that even more ignorant ass in San Diego.
OMG Never once occurred to me that I’d see or hear “crap for brains” as a reference to Jon Miller. What a bunch of asshats.
good god
have they never seen a spy movie? they just rewire the camera to make it look like they are seeing the balls being in the humidor. Then they are free to do whatever they want!
Hahahahaha wow you guys need a ladder fellow McCovenites?
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
Damn it really I thought no one was listening.
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
Over the past 2 weeks or so
The Giants have lost every single time my friend has gone to the gym, and have won every single time he hasn’t gone to the gym.
He just told me he’s headed to the gym.
:(
by yankeessuck8991 on Sep 14, 2010 3:30 PM PDT reply actions
GET HIM!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Dammit
Let him be flabby and out of shape like the rest of us.
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Sep 14, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
UPDATE
I have convinced him to just go play basketball, not at the gym.
by yankeessuck8991 on Sep 14, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
/Warriors lose their first game of the season
You heard it here first!
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Oh man
I thought this was gonna be their year!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I’m sure it’s not “their year,” but in fact they should be better and they might even sneak into the last playoff spot. I expect 40 wins or so, but they could get lucky and win 45.
WTF is wrong with you?
Break his damn legs!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
then get over to the mall and sucker punch Ethier.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Ross leading off in RF, Rowand in CF batting 8th
Runs are going to be tough to come by.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Well think about it like this
At least our manager won’t give the worst player on our team the most at bats on the team during a pennant race.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Rowand likely plays the whole game now
And Nate will come in for Pat (shift Ross to LF), so Rowand # of ABs > Pat’s # of ABs
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
God dammit
Now that I think about it bork will play rowand everyday and never take him out of the line up because of his “defensive value”.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
with Torres out
I don’t really see a problem with Rowand playing every day
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
FOR THE DODGERS, AMIRITE?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Grant, did you put the pig-men reference in there because that episode was on last night?
"I wanted to pick a Rockie. But I dislike the Rockies. They're not bona fide." — Jon Miller on the postgame wrap, 7/1/10
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Sep 14, 2010 3:40 PM PDT reply actions
LINEUP!
Ray Durham 2B
J.T. Snow 1B
Michael Tucker RF
Barry Bonds LF
Edgardo Alfonzo 3B
A.J. Pierzynski C
Marquis Grissom CF
Neifi Perez SS
Kirk Rueter P
Mays' Field McCovey's Cove Bonds' Bleachers
LOL FELIZ
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
ON the bright side...
Ralph Barbieri just had an aneurysm after seeing that lineup
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Barry sure had a lot of protection
Damn that must have inflated his numbers.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
LOL
2005-2007
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
OT: For you Gleeks:
From the PH newsletter:
Ah, but Public House isn’t just about sports. We are continuing our monthly Tuesday Beer Dinners, the next one featuring beers from Speakeasy Brewing.
And we’ll be kicking off season two of Glee with $10 Sangria pitchers (regularly $16) and free chips and salsa during the weekly Glee TV show watching on the Mijita BIG screen.
John O goes from rockin his Dead tapes to Glee night in 5 weeks?!
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Wow just wow.
Speakeasy brewing? Did they decide to branch out from providing internetz and trying to sell brew?
Also LOL @ glee viewing party.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
LOL PADRES
It’s been terrific," Moorad said. “I couldn’t ask for a better reception. We’re convinced that the fan base is coming back. It may be at a pace slower that we had hoped, but we’re not complaining. We understand that we have to continue to focus on putting the best club we can on the field and improving the fan experience.”
And even now the fans have caught on as attendance for the Giants series has shown, growing from 28,456 on Thursday night to 33,662 on Friday night and the 41,123 on Saturday. That’s 103,241 for the three games with a chance to surpass the 145,000 mark if they do as well as anticipated on Sunday.
I wonder if these idiots realize that well over 50% of that attendance was giants fans and they actually showed up and could be heard where as it was crickets all weekend from the “padres fans”.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
They don't care who people root for...
It’s the gate receipts and the concessions that matter… This is like tha A’s saying “Attendance is increasing… just look at last week” after having the Yankees/RedSox in town…
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
The people who own the padres are only interested in making as much profit as possible
Hence why adrian gonzalez, heath bell, and ryan ludwick will be traded by the 2011 trading deadline without a doubt. I assume they’ll non tender ludwick and a few others to try and save as much money as possible. Hopefully all their elite relievers are arbitration eligible and they have to pull a 2004 marlins.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
The people who own the padresAll owners of anything everywhere, including owners of pets are only interested in making as much profit as possible
Of course
but the padres take it to marlins and pirates extreme.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
UNFATHOMABLY IMPORTANT POLL
Going to the game tonight, and as a long time resident of AT&T Park, as well as an employee, I am well versed in the food of the ballpark. But I can’t decide what to have tonight. WHAT SHOULD I GET TONIGHT:
A) Cha Cha Bowl
B) Philly Cheese Steak
C) Shut up and eat your sunflower seeds
by yankeessuck8991 on Sep 14, 2010 3:47 PM PDT reply actions
GARLIC FRIES AND MARZEN
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
They’re like the only things I haven’t had at the ballpark. I was going to get one a couple weeks ago, but the Cha Cha bowls were right there, calling my name.
by yankeessuck8991 on Sep 14, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Never eat the high volume food after a road trip. It takes a day to cycle through the stale buns/peanuts/whatever. I’d guess specialty food like CCBowl would be the play.
See you there.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
I seem to be the only one in the world who thinks the Cha Cha Bowls are overrated.
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Sep 14, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I havent either. I’m a hot link w/kraut guy (once a homestand). Prefer to roll to Flour and Water after the game.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Shut up and eat your sunflower seeds!
by yankeessuck8991 on Sep 14, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I like those even less than Cha Cha Bowls.
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Sep 14, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m with you completely. I was completely underwhelmed.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 14, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Definitely Cha Cha Bowl, although if you’re feeling wealthy the Krazy Krab sandwich is also an excellent choice.
Nope, Jewish.
And that refers to the stingy with money thing, not the shellfish thing.
by yankeessuck8991 on Sep 14, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
BEAT THESE GUYS!
Furcal 6
Ethier 9
Blake 5
Kemp 8
Gibbons 3
Barajas 2
Carroll 4
Johnson 7
Kershaw 1.
They could be Giants...but not really.
He’s swinging a “hot bat” according to the extremely over rated joe torre.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Yeah true that
They just gave up that scrubby catcher kid who was over rated and was never bound to do anything and kept the better one who’s the next mike piazza.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Nope they got the best in the game for at least the next 15 years
I hope they lock him up long term this off season and use joe mauers deal as a “starting point of conversation” since SIRM is indeed that much better he can steal bases!!!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
was that guy they dealt at the deadline really that good?
he went for lilly, right?
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I think so
Hopefully he turns out to be another carlos santana.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
i hope so too… so long as it is for anyone who is not in the NL west.
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
It was actually for Scotty Pods, and no he’s really not that good
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
i remember him being a top-ranked prospect… or was that just in the dodgers organization?
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Scalding hot
He has 4 hits including 1 HR since we played them last weekend.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Ethier 9?
Like the first 8 weren’t bad enough!
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
once you get thru the top 4 …. its all downhill
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck
I just realised game 2 of the WNBA Finals is tonight….Do I watch this or Giants?
by yankeessuck8991 on Sep 14, 2010 3:59 PM PDT reply actions
joking?
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Sep 14, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Or some physicality.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FGI7R0u3TQ&feature=player_embedded
by yankeessuck8991 on Sep 14, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, thank god.
I thought you weren’t chasming.
This is an incredible video, there’s another one out there thats also remarkable but I assume there’s many of those.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Am I in the chasm here? Because that video seems hackneyed, immature, unintelligent and poorly performed to me… not worth the double copy/paste.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
NO boobs
They traded Bengie, remember?
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
No, it’s not a joking matter.
9 months, 12 days til the Women’s World Cup!!!!!
by yankeessuck8991 on Sep 14, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
WNBA finals have greater chance of girl-on-girl action
Giants game has greater chance of watching Casey Blake die.
You choose
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Well played
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
(shift-a) Holy Shit,
I feel like storming Omaha Beach wearing Lincecum hair after watching this:
(…eating a cantaloupe, riding a panda, screaming “I AIN’T HAVIN IT” at the top of my lungs and what-not)
i take that as better good news, than worse bad news.
ATL losing is the priority, PHI is important, but not as much as ATL.
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah me too. I’d rather battle ATL for the WC vs Philly. Good thing it won’t come to that ;)
PHI better take 5 of 6 vs ATL- that would probably knock ATL out pretty bad in the WC
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty cool that the braves and phillies get to play tough division rivals down the stretch like the NL west does.
Wow what a challenge they have to overcome getting fat off the marlins, mets, and nationals wow it brings a tear to my eye!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
LOL
I still love that fat bastard.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
To bad he couldn’t have thrown a shutout and drove in a few runs in a certain game 7.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Should have never started…Woody should have started against those bunch of roided up f’ing eckstein-filled first pitch/free swinging bums
This
He would have kept them nerds off balance and FPOM’ing all day and we’d have won 1-0.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Call 'em Nats
That way you can’t slip up and call the Nationals the Senators. I learned that a while back when the Nat(ional)s were brand-new.
by mrs. owlcroft on Sep 14, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Not 7:15?
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Sep 14, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
what if someone came here for newts?
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
here’s your news- SF will win tonight!!
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
LOOK AT WHAT YOU DID
NOW BLOOD IS COMING OUT OF MY EYES
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 14, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
They mostly play games at night.
Mostly.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
yesssssssssssssssssssssss
so good.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
thank god for that. our daytime record, last i saw, was hovering around .500
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s usually 7:15 at AT&T for some reason
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok
I thought maybe it was moved up 10 minutes for some reason
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Sep 14, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
MLB.com Rockies/Pads Preview:
“the Padres surge back into contention…” ???
beating the lowly dodgers then losing 3 of 4 to SF isn’t called surging. One win yesterday? not quite a surge either.
Anybody care about the Reds vs. Dbacks?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
can we direct our attention to teams actually in a playoff race?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
can we direct our attention to teams in the national league?
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 14, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
reds/dbacks… reds gotta lose, so that STL thinks they are in this and dont roll over with SD and COL 4 game sets at home still on the schedule.
That, and we want homefield adv
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Travis Wood pitching like shit right now… and Mark Reynolds made a pathetic base running error
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
seriously, who the hell is this dude, Hudson
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Speaking of Pokemon
I think there are people here who would appreciate this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFUD7thPctQ
Yes
We need the Cardinals to close the gap. Padres play the Reds at the same time we play the Rockies. If the Reds are mailing it in at that point, could be really really bad.
by yankeessuck8991 on Sep 14, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
All of a sudden, Ross landing on our laps became a great thing. With Torres out, we could have been stuck with Rowand leading off the rest of the year.
Thanking my lucky stars right now.
let’s hope the Commander does well today.
Rowand had has chances, over and over and over. Then he got another bone thrown his way Sun, and went 0-5 so I don’t think Bork is so inclined to play him everyday
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
im encouraged
but by no means is this set in stone. ross needs to get a few hits tonight in my opinion to take this out of Bochy’s hands in determining who should get regular at bats with torres out.
Cain is Able ...
It’s like the end of Animal House
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Sep 14, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
that’s a high OBP for someone with a sub-.200 avg.
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
OR
That’s a low BA for someone with a plus .300 OBP
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Sep 14, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
i dont know if its BABIP luck, or what, but he takes pitches, and works walks (or so his numbers seem to show) but no matter how you cut it, I’d rather have him than hacker Rowand leading off.
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know
4 BB v. 10 Ks in 33 PA
BABIP: .278 (but has a career BABIP of .303)
does take pitches…4.03
so he has the same amount of walks in 1/3 the PAs as Guillen. taking pitches is all i could ask, for a temp leadoff man.
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
well cole hamels is already up to
43 pitches through two innings. Hopefully florida can get to that bullpen.
Cain is Able ...
LOL
I figured since we traded him he’d turn into the next joel pinero.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
TENTATIVE SCHEDULE FOR NEXT YEAR IS HERE:
by yankeessuck8991 on Sep 14, 2010 5:22 PM PDT reply actions
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF YES
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Rumors of MadBum’s velocity’s demise have been greatly exaggerated.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
He throws the two-seamer harder than the four-seamer?
by non sequitur on Sep 14, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s Madison Bumgarner. When people prescribe rules, he says “FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF”.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Better pray your pitchers keep asking for new balls with 2 outs to try and get the non humidor supply for your team to hit with.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
troll,troll-troll, troll-troll (in that thong song voice)
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess he’s not using his regular username? (assuming a he)
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
so that really is your first post on sbnation… that’s… interesting.
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
youd think ones first post on sbnation would be on their own teams site?
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Still… go fuck yourself.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: interesting note from the Cincinnati's color commentator
He’s been talking for a while about the NL west for a while, and he’s talked a bit about how the Giants will come out and win the West, since he likes the lineup and the rotation… plus one of the teams has to play the cards? SAN DIEGO
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
two teams play the cards, don’t they? SD and COL?
I like his train of though on the west, though
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks! yea, i just didnt look up the Colorado Schedule
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
that’s why CIN and STL have to stay close, so the cards dont throw in the towel on the final weekend while we play SD
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I just dont see the point in any team “throwing in the towel” i mean, isn’t there something called, play hard all the time?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
yeah but you know how the cards are whiners, if they are eliminated right before they play the rockies, then may not play them as hard.
they need something to play for, they won’t accept the role as spoilers
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
i almost feel the cards were eliminated like 2 weeks ago when they
were down by 8 games
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
i think its 6 or 7 right now, but point is, for our benefit, it would be nice if they played SD and COL tough since they account for 8 home games vs our competition.
yeah i think they are out of it too, but remember we thought we were done 2 weeks ago, and here we are…
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
True, however, the Cards don’t have the pitching depth the giants do
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
or the lineup depth that… well… everyone else has. lol
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Here’s what i want, Rockies to win tonight, the pads to win tomorrow… and the giants to sweep or at least take the series
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
i dont know if i want the pads winning tomorrow, though, since COL goes on a 10-game roadie after the series. but, so long as no one is swept in COL, im happy.
and yeah, we need 2 of 3, ideally sweep. cannot lose this series. at least i take comfort in MIL this weekend, while pads play in STL and COL, i dont know where they go…
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
haha, basically these last few weeks are going to be a shit show…
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
yeap. we’re in for a hell of a ride. and i cant wait!!!
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
plus, looking at that, which team would you rather play on the road, the Cubs or the Cardinals? although the giants did have some trouble against the Cubs at home
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
that was during our pitching breakdown, that we had trouble against them. no trouble scoring, just keeping them from scoring was tough
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
It will be one hell of a series, WHICH I WANT TO GO TO SINCE I’M 4 HOURS AWAY
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
IT'S DURING THE WEEK!!!!!!
FUCK, i got class, and obviously going to have papers to turn in…
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
get a blowup doll of yourself, and do your papers early… or late.
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
the blowup is to put in class. what you do with it on your own time is not my business
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
a friend of a friend of a friends friend did it once
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Did the Giants...
always hate the Padres or did it just start this year?
Well...
I’ve never hated the Giants . I only hate the Cockies and Damsels
by PadresOffice on Sep 14, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Those Unis
are some kinda of nice! Even rappers like them. LOL!
by PadresOffice on Sep 14, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
The epitome of good taste
Hey, maybe the Padres should return the favor. How about this for their 2011 look…
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
did you forget the desert storm and army unis?
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
The Browns
of St. Iago.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 14, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
I hate the Rockies way more than the Padres.
This. I find it hard to hate most of the Padres, with the glaring exceptions of anything Hairston and Fuckstein.
I've never really hated the Padres either.
For much of their existence they’ve just been too pathetic to work up any decent hate over.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Sep 15, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
yep. but we actually just started hating padre fans like yourself who come here to cause trouble
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
no trouble
just like to talk to opposing fans. Plus you seriously think i would root for LA. F That! I want the last 3 games of the year to count!
by PadresOffice on Sep 14, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
That's fine
but posting something when you don’t mean it just to rile up the opposing fan is textbook trolling
If this was gas lamp ghost town
He’d have been ban hammered on spot by the one person reading the site.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
yeah ok
i see you guys do it all the time. No more trolling then. Ill talk serious baseball
by PadresOffice on Sep 14, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
No one thats a regular on this site goes to gas lamp ghost town to heckle, let alone chat.
But I’m sure there’s plenty of morons who go on their to talk shit when times are good so that’s understandable.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
exactly my point. you don’t seem to be “talking any baseball” so its a troll you are
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I know I'm gonna get in trouble here, but I've never and still don't hate the Padres.
They’re just varying degrees of annoying, and this year I’ve had to make a new upper extreme level…I don’t hate ‘em. They’re not bastards, they’re just a a luckier version of us last year.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Texas Ranger
hating the Padres since 2007
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
We loved the padres
Until they got rid of that dumbass manager and let brian sabean make love to him.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Afraud just hit a coors field home run at the trop
/turns off mlb network because the sucking is unbearable
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
dink dink dink
BUD BLACK FUELING THE JUGGERNAUT!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
But then again its coors...
No lead under 11 is safe. Plus Garland is pitching. You guys roughed him up last time…
by PadresOffice on Sep 14, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I imagine judy will serve up plenty atom bombs today
He sure looked great against the giants.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Padres
Wow the Padres scored 2 runs already, that must be their season high
/rockies staff scrambles to get non humidor balls ready for the bottom of the 1st
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!
You can’t just say humidor it proves nothing!!!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
jesus, 5 straight hits. loaded, none out
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
hahaha pixie dust gone!!!
loaded, no outs, didnt get anymore out of it. LOL. that is proof the pads magic is gone
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
If this was april, they'd have scored 8 runs.
NOT ANYMORE NEENER NEENER
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I thought they had a better pitching staff than the Giants? The Padres scored more runs in one game than we gave up in a 4 game series
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 14, 2010 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Off to the yard
BEAT LA!
and also, lets go Nats, Marlins and a 47 inning game in Colorado.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
Take some magic in your pocket, just in case a little extra is needed, j.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 14, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
LOLPadz
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
Wow ... padres
just did their best giants inpersonation. bases loaded no outs … strike out, double play. 2 runs is a major let down there.
Cain is Able ...
what can you say? we got that shit down!!!
trademark it, now!!! and take away a win everytime someone else does it!!
by giant4life83 on Sep 14, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
its a three game series.
with the pads winning the first game, i want them to split the last two. this brings the roxs back down to earth and still brings the pads back a bit.
Cain is Able ...
No...
Padres are 0.5 games ahead of the Giants…Rox are 2 games behind the Giants…
Want Padres to lose both and Giants sweep…
I want the final 2 games to involve every single arm in each bullpen throwing 2 innings.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
i would rather have the pads closer to us than the roxs as the season winds down
we play the roxs and would have a say in the way the season ends. if the roxs win these two, they continue their upswing. I want them to come back down to earth and losing two of three at home to the pads seems like a solid way to do that.
Cain is Able ...
A few stats of possible interest
Offered without comment for what one may want to make of it all . . . .
First, count stats. "The “proj.” is just each man’s career-to-date (including 2010) stats pro-rated to his 2010 plate-appearance total. (PA discrepancies are rounding error.)
Man AB H 2B 3B HR BB SF SH HP SO SB CS PA . Rowand proj: 313 87 19 1 10 19 2 2 9 64 5 2 345 Rowand 2010: 320 74 12 2 10 16 1 1 8 74 5 3 346 . Ross proj: 30 8 2 0 1 2 0 0 0 7 0 0 32 Ross 2010: 27 5 0 0 0 4 1 0 1 10 0 0 33 . Schierholtz proj: 217 60 14 3 3 13 3 0 3 37 3 3 236 Schierholtz 2010: 211 54 13 3 3 19 1 1 3 33 4 5 235 . Guillen proj: 80 22 4 0 3 4 1 0 2 15 0 0 87 Guillen 2010: 81 23 4 0 1 3 1 0 2 21 0 0 87
Now, some rate stats:
Player PA BA BABIP SA HA PF BBA KA OBA TBA TOP Rowand 4424 .276 .318 .442 .252 1.601 .057 .188 .309 .403 817 Ross 2171 .263 .303 .462 .241 1.753 .067 .214 .308 .422 807 Schierholtz 740 .275 .317 .407 .254 1.479 .054 .159 .308 .376 692 Guillen 6352 .271 .299 .440 .249 1.627 .050 .172 .299 .405 778
There, “HA” is “Hitting Average”, H/PA; PF is “power factor”, TB/H; “KA” is strikeouts rate, K/PA; and TOP is a one-number total-offense metric, expressed as runs/season for a team that is nine clones of the given batter.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Sorry, should have said the rate stats are career-to-date values.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
What the heck . . .
. . . here are the 2010 TOP values, for comparison (all SF-only):
Schierholtz = 688
Guillen = 645
Rowand = 580
Ross = 364
Thoughts: If you compare count stats and rate stats, you can see that Guillen “owes” a couple of home runs, which he nearly got on more than one occasion. Rowand has had some inexplicable problem for a few seasons now, which I myself am much tempted to assign to a vision difficulty, because his fall was off a cliff at a relatively early age; right now, his career numbers are almost meaningless. Schierholtz seems even more sensitive to playing time than most men, and has done strikingly better than his overall numbers during periods when he has played regularly. Ross is probably a slighly better player than his career totals, but only slightly.
For reference: Buster Posey’s 2010 TOP is 1077; Uribe’s is 757; Whiteside’s is 616. For a decent center fielder, anything from 800 up is—in my opinion—acceptable; for a corner outfielder, one likes to see something over 900, but mid-800s are tolerable, especially with defense. Low 800s at the corners are marginal but not necessarily to be ruled out. Schierholtz, when played steadily, showed low to middle 800s.
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I probably missed something...
Schierholtz seems even more sensitive to playing time than most men, and has done strikingly better than his overall numbers during periods when he has played regularly.
how do you get that from this table?
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I didn't.
I got it from noticing his cumulative 2010 numbers earlier in the season, when he was playing, as well as some periods in prior seasons. But you are correct that it is not to be seen above.
No, I’m not quite saying “none of the above”. Earlier in the year, I was advocating with some heat the need to go out and get a solid-offense right fielder, possibly trading a lower-minors pitching talent. But with Lump’O’Lard gone and some offense showing up from new faces (such as Burrell), the need is less drastic, and I think the team could live with Burrell/Torres/Schierholtz/Ross as the outfielders. One more big bat for RF would certainly be nice, but I no longer see it as crucial.
Sabean delenda est!
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1. Fastball – Called Strike
2. Fastball – In play, out(s)
3. Centaur urine – sprinkle on plate
4. Slider – Called STrike
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 14, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Game day bug
When torres hit the home run against the rockies to put the giants ahead in the 8th it showed the pitch before as a called strike 3 which confused me to no end.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Just hopped on CalTrain in San Bruno
and not a Dodgers fan in sight. Not a single one. Where are those neck-tattooed loudmouth smog-breathers now?
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious shit!
-Doc Brown, Zito fan
by jordanovich on Sep 14, 2010 6:10 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Watching the WNBA finals
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Well, that settles that
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious shit!
-Doc Brown, Zito fan
by jordanovich on Sep 14, 2010 6:24 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
OAK @ KC
Oops. Looks like Boof is getting lit up.
Prediction for Tonight
TORTURE
Had to be said.
Looking good yankees
LOL allowing 7 spot to the rays with a 6-0 lead.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Daniel hudson
Needs to stop pitching so well.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Eat LA
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