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What do you think Andres Torres's injury means for the Giants? What do you think the lineup will be on Tuesday?
Can Barry Zito step it up, seeing how the other four members of the rotation are performing of late?
Do you ever worry that they will suddenly decide that we don't deserve Buster Posey after all and will take him away from us?
On a scale from 1-10, how satisfying was Mat Latos's less than quality start?
Or, you know, just spam the thread with OT comments like usual.
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Lunch?
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by gallo del cielo on Sep 12, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't mind, especially
if it’s of the Norwegian men’s team’s pants.
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I like Molina leading off there.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 12, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
he's the only logical option
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
clog those bases immediately
like feeding bacon wrapped bacon to your infant
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109!!!
I like this. It makes us think. Grant should be demoted to AAA and face some easy pitching.
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Season’s over, bro.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 12, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 12, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I was all ready to stand side by side with you for a McCoven coup of Grant
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
That reminds me
WHERE IS STEVE DECKER?!
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What do you think Andres Torres’s injury means for the Giants? What do you think the lineup will be on Tuesday?
This obviously hurts. But, if it is indeed Scott rather than Ross that gets most of the innings in CF, I think he’ll do a good job. Clearly his numbers and general Scott-ness say otherwise, but I think he’ll surprise us.
Can Barry Zito step it up, seeing how the other four members of the rotation are performing of late?
Zito isn’t going to let us down.
Do you ever worry that they will suddenly decide that we don’t deserve Buster Posey after all and will take him away from us?
Yes. 2002 has left me emotionally scarred and I believe that any rational cause happiness will eventually be taken away from me. This is kind of why I think those who are most likely to disappoint us (Scott, Zito) will paradoxically be the ones to come through when needed.
On a scale from 1-10, how satisfying was Mat Latos’s less than quality start?
109.
1 for his last 27!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
He’s been due all year. He better be gearing up for a 90/100 stretch through the playoffs.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Sep 12, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
if he did that I think I could maybe sorta forgive him sucking all year
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Clearly his numbers and general Scott-ness say otherwise, but I think he’ll surprise us.
Best joke ever! LOL
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the only "surprise"
will be just how terrible he is. it will be shocking.
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I don’t think his terribleness can shock me anymore.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Sep 12, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
in 10 games, luck counts more than talent
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Your starting line-up?
Grant, CF
Fontenot, 2B
Fontenot, 1B
Grant, C
Grant, LF
Grant, RF
Fontenot, 3B
Fontenot, SS
Grant, P
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What is with the background on this site?
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What's with the background on YOUR FACE?
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*HIGH FIVE*
/grabs croch
/farts
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I initially just saw the yellow and black background. For a second, I thought the site got hijacked until the rest of the front page loaded.
Bowkermania runs wild...in Pittsburgh.
by rightcenterfielder on Sep 12, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Who the heck do you root for tomorrow between the Padres and the Rockies?
Is it a 3 or 4 game series?
root for rox 3/4
or a split
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We need to win
If we’re winning, I think I root for the Padres – because this series is at coors, and the rockies home/road splits are such that they really can’t afford to lose at coors.
I don’t care who wins this one, but after this one, I will root for the other team to win.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
im gonna root for COL tomorrow, just so we have sole possession of first for a day (that’s for my ego). The other days, I don’t care.
But here’s where it gets interesting. The Rockies go out on the road, so they could fall back quick… or keep on winning. The Pads could go back to early-season form at any time, too, so these are the two most unpredictable teams to say who to root for. All I know is, i want to see us alone in first for one day.
by giant4life83 on Sep 13, 2010 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions
well fixed.
In first for a day, then another, then another, x20, then bam, season over. West is crowned, go to CIN, play Reds, smoke them out in 4 games, go to PHI, play Phillies, Posey hits walk-off grand slam down by 3 in game 7, kill Phillie mascot, go to Tampa, Posey hits walk-off grand slam down by 3 in game 7, sacrifice a virgin.
by giant4life83 on Sep 13, 2010 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions
2010 World Series Champions SF Giants crowned.
Posey sings in parade, Huff does somersaults, friendly roiting ensues.
by giant4life83 on Sep 13, 2010 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions
You know that’s not going to happen. We don’t deserve good things.
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I know. That’s why I said we should riot after they win the WS, so it doesn’t end up being a good thing.
by giant4life83 on Sep 13, 2010 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Easy question. You root for one split(col,SD) and three sweeps (SF, Was, FL)
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Sep 13, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
All the chef kids post in the GameThreads.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 12, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
oh you're here?
kind of awkward..ignore the talk about coups. Just joking!
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(we weren't just joking)
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I am so offended right now
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I'm probably going to bring this up like 25 more times to you because I'm so offended
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VAPORS
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cook kids?
OH MY GOD YOURE ALL MAKING METH?!?
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Dammit Dan, I trusted you!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
wait
I want to join you. I KNOW THE CHEMISTRY
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CHEMISTRY!?
NEEDZ MOAR MECHANIZMS!
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I’m going to miss Andres Torres in the lineup, but I will especially miss his defense. I’m not very good at the lineup thing but meh.
Sanchez 2b
Posey C
Huff 1B
Burrell LF
Sandoval 3b
Uribe SS
Schierholtz RF
Ross CF
Zito P
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
FTFY
CF Rowand
2B Sanchez
1B Huff
RF Guillen
LF Burrell
C Posey
3B Uribe
SS Renteria
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I think mine's more accurate
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Yours looks pretty good
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IKR
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oh damn
I knew I was forgetting someone on mine..he’d obviously be a late-inning defensive replacement
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wow you're dressed up tonight!
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He was probably just on his way to Purple Row. I hear bath robe and a through bowl of Captain Crunch is not allowed in over there.
/ keeps shoveling sugary, crimpy squares of goodness into pie hole.
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LOL
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 12, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Neither did I. But those 4chan guys are all such scholars…
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 12, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
What channel number is that?
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by Giant among Angels on Sep 12, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
No wonder Rockies fans don’t watch Padre games.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Sep 12, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Dick Enberg just running off random memes for three hours
will probably sound a lot better than Dick Enberg doing play-by-play of a Padres game.
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We brought this up right as the last thread died.
What should the morning post be called, if anything?
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
I vote this
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I dunno, is there some wacky hangover cure that could be morphed into a Giants related phrase? I don’t drink so I don’t know any of them… ‘cept for “hair of the dog” which’d be “something witty of the blog”.
Nice,
brother.
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by gallo del cielo on Sep 12, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
We are not hypocrites in our sleep
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
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Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Sep 13, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
‘Stiffy’
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 13, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I said this in the other thread
but Matt Cain is pitching better this year than he ever has.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
He’d be my game 7 starter.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
1 through 7, with rain separating each . . .
In 1962, he’d have gotten 4 starts in the series.
Seriously, the dabblers who are partial to The Freak just aren’t paying enough attention.
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by gallo del cielo on Sep 12, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
ELITIST
I dont speak spanish!
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You're Anti-Forin Language Bias Is Showing
That is quite clearly written in Russian.
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EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Sep 13, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
boo Honda… American Muscle all the way!!!
by giant4life83 on Sep 13, 2010 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah!
who needs to go around a corner?
/love my honda
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16 losses
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
2007 was solid, but his K/BB is almost up to 3 this year.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
Maybe it’s the rose-colored memory glasses, but I recall lots and lots of really weak contact that year.
no, I remember that too. Lots of weakly hit FB. But he had his share of the walksies that year.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
I feel like with his velocity, control, and endurance, he’s one refinement on a breaking pitch from being a top 15 starter.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
weird. Is it me or was he throwing harder in 09 than 08?
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
Not really. There are a couple of late outlier games that skew it. He hasn’t lost much — a foot over three years is good. But it does look a tick slower now.
yet his fastball is more effective now than it was in ’08 and ’07.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
Anyone notice that Ken Rosenthal said the Giants want Ross around next year, just not at an arbitration-level price? I can’t find the link, but it was in his left-over notes from the Saturday game.
And, yes, I’d like to keep Ross around.
It was in the game thread, if I recall correctly. He made ~$4.5 this year. I don’t know if he’s worth anything more than $2.5 million.
He’s probably worth about $4.5 mil but I don’t know if that’s actually his market price.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I’d do 2/$6M. I don’t think he’d get a lot more on the open market.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 12, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he’s probably at least Rowand in CF (average-ish).
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his arm is, like, way better though
that’s something..
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does he hit the cut off man?
there should be a stat for that
On his career
A slightly above average CF and a slightly more above average RF and LF, according to UZR.
He passes the eye test – he’s quick.
Third/fourth outfielder with a David DeJesus signing, please.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 12, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
what do we do with the Belt/Huff dilemma then?
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I think it would be nice if it even got to that point. I mean, I don’t want Belt yo-yo’d, but if he is seriously in the staring lineup discussion it would be good.
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by Giant among Angels on Sep 12, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
its just nice to have a lineup that is good enough to say “let him work his way into it” as opposed to “wait, he can hit .200? get him up here NOW!!!”
its been awhile since we had a solid lineup, top to bottom. Not a single hole anywhere. Uribe has gotta be the best 8 place hitter in the NL.
by giant4life83 on Sep 13, 2010 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Just for this season
C Awesome
1B Awesome
2B Average
SS Good
3B Mediocre
LF Good
CF Awesome
RF Black Hole
I think there’s one hole. Boy, wouldn’t it be nice if Pablo returned to 2009 form sometime in the near future?
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Just about to post this!
The Giants could have to choose between Burrell and Huff. Maybe they let Burrell walk. Thing is, you might be able to make Burrell a 1B, too, so either way you have an OF/1B situation, and then you throw Belt into that mix…?
DeJesus + Torres is already a powerless lineup (well, Torres has some pop this year, don’t know that he hits 14 next year, but I am fine with being wrong on that). I don’t know where the additions and subtractions happen, but I really just want the Giants’ frankenroster to do something this year so the problem(s) don’t seem quite so magnified.
Burrell has already said he'd be OK being a bench player
No reason to let him walk when he wants to come back and would be cheap.
The trick here is
To not have Bochy back!
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At this point...
It’s almost a foregone conclusion that Sabean/Bochy will be back =/
DeJesus + Torres is already a powerless lineup
It doesn’t really matter how you provide your offensive value as long as you provide it.
DeJesus and Torres do well enough in all the other categories of hitting and defense that lack of power is not a criterion by which to preclude their both being in the starting lineup.
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This is true to a certain extent. However the run values assigned to singles, doubles, etc. based on the average lineup. If you have say a bunch of guys with .400 OBP with no power then the actual runs they would produce would likely be lower than their numbers would predict.
Of course, no lineup is like that and only two players like that in the lineup (neither being exactly “powerless” as well) won’t create that scenario.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
That depends on your metric.
Good metrics don’t have such obvious failings.
Sabean delenda est!
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CF – Torres
2B – Sanchez/Fontenot
LF/1B – Huff
C – Posey
LF – Burrell
3B/1B – Sandoval
LF/RF – DeJesus
SS/3B – Uribe
Special guest star: LF/CF/RF – Ross
Basically, the current lineup with a better Royal. Belt’s not going to get on the team unless he goes nuts. If he does, someone up there will be injured or something.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 12, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
You'd have to trade for DeJesus if you want him for 2011
He has a cheap option for the year that the Royals will almost certainly pick up.
Not impossible that the Giants still trade for him.
For what it’s worth, I’m not on board with the DeJesus idea.
by Every6thDay on Sep 12, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
this
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remember DeRosa.
super-utility spot starter for the IF?
by giant4life83 on Sep 13, 2010 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions
+ 1
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Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
/rf^6
You’re missing a real shortstop.
Also, I don’t love DeJesus. Like, sure.
I would resign Uribe. I had no idea he is only 30????
dudes in his prime, putting up big numbers
by giant4life83 on Sep 13, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Big numbers?
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 13, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions
for a shortstop, and always seems to get that HR in a big spot.
by giant4life83 on Sep 13, 2010 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Reasonable numbers.
Uribe is, I believe, 31 now. His offense value is mediocre for a third baseman, but pretty good for a middle infielder—roughly Renteria/FSanchez range, which matches or slightly exceeds all but the half-dozen or so superstars at each middle-infield position.
Unless for mind-numbing dollars, Uribe is an excellent re-up.
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Yes. I like him as a super sub actually… and he’s got reasonable numbers for what he is and can play several positions without embarrassment, but they ain’t big. He does seem to have a talent for dramatic home runs.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 13, 2010 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions
giant4life83, have you heard of wOBA?
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I know he isn’t an OBP queen, but he has serious value in his power numbers and is clutch. His avg is .250ish, yeah, but he’s got plenty of value.
Could you seriously part with Jazz Hands?
by giant4life83 on Sep 13, 2010 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m not disagreeing with you, I’m just wondering what knowledge you have of comprehensive statistics to measure offensive production.
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I'm going to rosterbate about how much better Jayson Werth would make this team
Torres CF
Posey C
Werth RF
Huff 1B
Burrell LF
Sandoval 3B
Uribe SS
Freddy 2B
Bench: Fontenot, Ross, Schierholtz, Rohlinger, Rowand
holy shit
but he’s gonna get, like, way too much right?
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with the talent the Giants have, can't they afford that?
if it means a drastic offensive improvement for the next few years?
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2011 is supposed to be a very good draft class
Giants want as many picks as possible.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
True, of course
But this could mean that Werth’s price will get driven down.
I would rather have Werth on a 4/60 deal or something than one first round pick in the 2011 draft.
I’d rather have a first round pick in the 2011 draft than another albatross contract on this roster.
Werth is very good right now, but I doubt that he will be a premium player for more than 2 more years. If I’m going to burn a draft pick for a long term investment, it’s going to be Carl Crawford.
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by Solidarity on Sep 12, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
IDK
werth is 2 years older but could be had for a shorter contract and for less money, and has a skill set that is less affected by age
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Albatross contract?
Jayson Werth is a good player.
I know that, because he has been a good player for the past three years.
He has a great combination of skills – some of which age well, some of which age less well. He hits for average, for power, takes a lot of walks, covers a lot of ground in the outfield, and has a great arm.
He will be 32 years old when 2011 season starts.
Crawford is probably a slightly better player, perhaps. But Werth will get less money and less years.
All signs point to Jayson Werth being an above-average baseball player for the next four years.
And he’ll most likely be far above average for at least the next two.
He also plays the majority of his games in a hitter friendly park...not to take anything away from him...but still
that doesn't affect the walks he takes
which is a lot of his value. Also, he’s a good fielder.
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Grr
This is what happens when people just listen to BS and don’t actually check facts.
Here are his home road splits over the past 4 years:
2007
Home OPS: .831
Road OPS: .890
2008
Home OPS: .835
Road OPS: .887
2009
Home OPS: .902
Road OPS: .857
2010
Home OPS: .972
Road OPS: .808
Look at that – for two seasons he hit better at home than on the road, and for two he hit better on the road.
It’s almost as if JAYSON WERTH IS ACTUALLY JUST A REALLY GOOD HITTER IN ANY BALLPARK.
BUT HE PLAYS! IN! A HITTERS PARK!
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
No...I mean...you can't expect him to be the .314 average and 14 dingers guy at AT&T...he might just be the .264 guy with 6 home runs. That's also with Utley and Howard in the lineup...
LOL batting average
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
seriously
your point was just destroyed. So please stop trying to make it kthnx
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sure Werth would have plenty of protection with Rowand and Sandoval protecting him in the lineup. Besides, Werth always seems to enjoy playing at AT&T...LIKE MOST FREE AGENTS.
you keep making noise but I don't think it's really accomplishing anything
he’s a really good baseball player. And that’s really the end of the story.
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes...he's a really good player who would do well by staying in Philly in that lineup. If he goes to another team in 2011...it won't be SF...and that is really the end of the stroy
end of the stroy?
what is a stroy?
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
whatever you do, keep saying things
you’re only helping your cause, really!
And if you’re also providing entertainment for me..well that’s a win win!
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
You are so very wrong
http://blogs.delawareonline.com/philledin/2010/09/09/is-werth-worth-the-money/
This shouldn’t be too hard to find some basic evidence for, since for so much of this season, the Phillies have filled out lineup cards that didn’t include Chase Utley or Ryan Howard.
So, for 2010, here are Werth’s numbers when Howard isn’t in the starting lineup:
.341 average, .438 OBP, .585 slugging with 8 RBI and 16 runs scored in 21 games.
And here are his numbers with Utley missing:
.313/.377/.482 with 31 RBI and 46 runs scored in 46 games.
And, for good measure, here’s what his numbers look like when both players aren’t in the lineup:
.377/.431/.547 with 10 RBI and 12 runs scored in 13 games.
Pretty much across the board, Werth has not only held his own without the two big sluggers batting in front of him, but in fact he’s played better when he was the centerpiece of the offense.
It is absolutely mindboggling to me how much hate Werth gets around the league and in the media – I do not understand why people spend so much time trying to turn a very good player into something else.
fine by me
maybe it’ll make him cheaper
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
A hitter’s park is Coors Field. Citizens Bank is much closer to neutral than something like Coors, GAB or Chase.
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where are you getting your park factors?
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He is a good player. Will he be a good player in 2012? 2013? 2014? I have my doubts.
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Well OK
But I would just say that
Werth is not a fluke player – ever since he started playing everyday, he has been very good.
There’s really nothing more that Werth could do to prove he’s worthy of a 4-5 year deal.
Your doubts are valid – but again, this is an argument that someone can use against signing any FA. Werth has aged well so far, there isn’t any reason to believe he’ll fall off a cliff.
A lot of this is circumstance talking. I like Werth a lot, don’t get me wrong, but if you look down the road you have these contract issues looming:
Lincecum up for arbitration again after 2011.
Cain is a free agent after 2012.
J. Sanchez is a free agent after 2012.
Sandoval enters arbitration in 2012.
Posey enters arbitration in 2012 or 2013.
Bumgarner enters arbitration in 2013.
We’ll still be paying Rowand through 2012, and we’ll be paying Zito $20 million in 2013, plus deferred money after that.
If we sign Werth to a 4/60 kind of contract, where is all this money going to come from? I’d rather focus on developing our young core until we are less handcuffed by Zito and Rowand, so we have enough money to actually keep all these pieces here.
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I was considering making a post saying these same concerns about the circumstantial issues of payroll, but then didn’t.
This is a nice post.
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see, now there's a good argument for why it wouldn't be a good idea
that other dude was just spouting bullshit.
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
You gays should just stop.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Dammit.
*guys
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Our young core is great
But they don’t play all 9 positions on the field.
I agree, at present payroll, we wouldn’t be able to afford to keep all those players and sign Werth, so payroll must expand.
But these payroll discussion are things that happen in the front office – none of us have any idea how much money would be available.
Neukom has always said that payroll could expand for an impact player.
My only point is that Jayson Werth is very likely to be worth every penny he is paid, and that he would make any team that signed him better. Anything beyond that, I can’t really control.
Our payroll is at $96 million, according to Cot’s, and as I understand it we’re right at about the limits of what we are willing to spend at the current time.
Coming off the books this year are Renteria ($10), Huff ($3), and Uribe ($3), but some of that money is presumably going to go to resigning Huff and/or Uribe, and Torres is entering his first arbitration year.
If you want to sign Werth and make immediate room for him, you don’t resign Huff, make Belt or Sandoval your starting 1B, put either Fontenot at short or trade for an affordable one, don’t tender Cody Ross a contract, and either resign Burrell on the cheap or not at all and have DeRosa or Schierholtz play left field.
In short, I don’t think we can have Huff and Werth unless Huff signs a team friendly deal. And the marginal value of Werth over Huff is questionable.
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Make no mistake
I understand that we can’t afford to sign Werth if payroll stays the same.
I was arguing one thing: If we were to expand payroll and we were looking for a player who would likely provide value commensurate to the contract they’re given, Jayson Werth would be a good signing.
Grammar stickler
“commensurate with” > “commensurate to”
> meaning that it is correct and the other isn’t
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I can certainly agree with you on that. I wouldn’t give him more than 4 years, as there aren’t many 35 year-old ballplayers whose value ends in “-teen,” but in terms of expanding payroll to make an immediate impact, Werth is a fine choice.
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Glad we've reached agreement.
I don’t want Werth to be the reason we lose our young core to free agency – I just think that he’s a really good baseball play who would improve our team for a few years to come.
And, I mean, come on
You can’t tell me that
Torres CF
Posey C
Werth RF
Huff 1B
Burrell LF
Sandoval 3B
Uribe SS
Freddy 2B
Lincecum P
Doesn’t look pretty as hell for an opening day 2011 lineup…
That lineup doesn’t-
it doesn’t-
it doesn’t-
Dammit.
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It looks very pretty, but it would probably be Bochified by keeping Sanchez in the 2-hole (tee-hee), and moving everybody else down one spot.
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As far as you are going yes, but you need to release signing his just repeating the Rowand signing all over again. If the team is shelling out more than $5MM per WAR at a corner OF spot if better be for a guy that is more than 2.5 WAR for each season here. At his age Werth would have to have a monster first 1-2 seasons to make it worth the likely price. I don’t like those odds. There are much better odds in seeing if the younger Ross bounces back towards ‘08 or ’’09 form. And Ross should be cheaper in ’11 as well.
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Say it with me, everyone
Jayson Werth is much much much better than Aaron Rowand.
Rowand had a career year right before he signed with us.
Werth has had 3.5 seasons in a row just as good as Rowand’s was.
Since 2007, in roughly 3.5 seasons of PT, Werth has been worth 17 WAR. That is consistency. The last time he was worth less than 4 WAR over a full season was 2007 – when he only played half a year and was still worth 3.2.
SIGNING JAYSON WERTH IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIKE SIGNING AARON ROWAND.
SIGNING AARON ROWAND HAPPENED AFTER ROWAND HAD ONE GOOD YEAR. WERTH HAS HAD FOUR IN A ROW.
Say it with me ….
“We would not be buying Jason Werth’s age 28, nor age 29 nor age 30 season. We would be Buying his age age 32, age 33, age 34 and age 35 seasons and probabley his age 36 season as well.”
This is all about buying the wrong things at the wrong time and thus Errant Thrown’ applies here. But well Rowand had a 124 OPS+ even Philly. Just
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Barry Zito was a good player
Aaron Rowand was a good player
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we need to find the next Werth
not this Werth
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heyward will be better than werth
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
this
we need the next huff/burrell/torres/ etc
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I won’t be the guy to make a Nikolai Bonds joke here.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 13, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions
+ 109
At least one can argue DeJues might be very similar to his aigrette numbers of the last couple seasons in the next 3 -4 years; Werth not so much. And I really am not wild about DeJues either.
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I admittedly know nothing of the MLB draft
but if this team added Werth it would probably make them legit WS contenders..I think that’s a shot you have to take.
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with this
To the extent that we believe that the Giants have a “championship window”, the next two or three years, in which our young starters go through their peak years, would probably be it.
I say go for it.
yeah
I mean it’s no guarantee that Huff and Burrell would hit this good next year too, but why not? Definitely a risk that would be worth it.
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
True
The only thing about Werth is that I know he’ll want more to play with the Giants just because he HATES AT&T Park.
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t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
what a douche
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants aren’t going to be the only ones pursuing though. And for the Giants to land him, they’re going to need to overpay.
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Or the Yankees/Red Sox (who are both looking to add an OF) will just bid him up and us Giants fans will just not have to deal with the specter of another long, bad contract. I’d rather have draft picks in next years group of prospects.
and it will be a low pick, in the 20s
YIPEEEE
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
We give up one pick to sign overpay Werth.
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Werth has been an underrated player for years now
I don’t know what you consider overpaying.
According to Fangraphs, he was worth over 20 million dollars in 08 and 09.
So far in 2010, he’s been worth over 15 million – with more time left to play.
He’s worth an awful lot of money, because he’s a very good player.
Who was the last free agent, as good as Werth or better to sign with the Giants? Anyone?....Was it Bonds? Hmmm, now why did Bonds want to play in SF?
I don't know, why not set your sights on a different FA, someone within the confines of the payroll. There's no chance the Giants can sign Werth.
please pick one argument and stick with it
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Should? NO...why? because they can't afford him. Sabes got very defensive about this when asked by Barbieri about not landing some of the key FA's of the past couple of years. Sabes said it flat out...players don't want to play here.
How about “Yes, they should sign him. They should spend 100 mill over five years”. Now what? You’ve got a dude that might hit 25 home runs for a couple of years. I don’t think the Giants will have much flexibility with their payroll for the next few years.
FAs always end up going where the money is
Jason Bay was regarded as the second-best hitter on the market last year.
Where did he end up signing? Pitcher-friendly Citi Field, with the Mets.
Sabean was blowing smoke.
Who’s to say players really don’t want to play here? I don’t remember many players actually admitting that they don’t want to play for the Giants.
Sabean said it.
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by DrDC on Sep 13, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I really honestly think
He’ll get no more than Jason Bay money – with the kicker that Jayson Werth is better than Jason Bay.
yeah, I would do that in less than a second
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if money is no object
Torres CF
Crawford LF
Posey C
Huff 1B
Sandoval 3B
Uribe SS
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crawford's gonna get holliday-type money right?
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Worth it.
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this
if werth could be had for 4/60, I do that definitely.
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Crawford isn’t worth Holliday money. Defense and speed decline fast.
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Holliday really isn’t worth Holliday money.
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nobody is really worth that
but that’s what the big names are going to get now. Or, god help us, howard money.
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Or, if/when it happens,
Pujols money.
$40-50M/yr, anyone?
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yeah, that's not even that outrageous
Arod gets close to 30, and Pujols is a lot better than him
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
kind of my thinking
maybe for 4 years, but not for the 6 or 7 he’s going to get.
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Yeah. He’s going to get waaaaay overpaid. He’ll be someone’s Rowand in four years, but in the meantime, he’ll be pretty sweet to have….
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 12, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
or carlos lee or soriano or wells or...
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though I know he'll be better than soriano and wells
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Dudes with plus speed are supposed to age a bit better though.
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Can somebody explain to me why this is? I never understood the so-called “old player skills” theory.
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taking walks is easier to do when you're old than stealing bases or running around in the outfield
see bonds, barry.
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I know it's an extreme example
but just saying. Manny Ramirez is still a great hitter. He can’t run anymore, but he can hit and take walks. A guy like Werth who doesn’t rely on speed for a large part of his value would probably age better than someone who does.
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s what I don’t get. The “old player skills” theory is about players like Richie Sexson and says that these guys decline more than the players who are more athletic and less dependent on OBP.
Which is, I think, the opposite of what you just said.
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uhh...
yeah that doesn’t make any sense. Someone who is more dependent on speed would probably be a lot less valuable as time went on.
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Thus my being completely perplexed by the whole theory.
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All skills decline obviously. And you may think speed would be the one thing to decline the fastest.
But think about it, what’s the most important tool for a baseball player? Their eyes.
There really aren’t many players that fit the bill. Adam Dunn, Carlos Pena, Pat Burrell, etc.
Also, the concept has been known to be flawed, as the sample in which it was developed was extremely limited – I believe the top 100 players with that skill set – effectively removing the lower quality players. There are some other things wrong with it too, use Google.
I always think that the biggest risks are the guys that aren’t balanced. Crawford is heavily dependent on elite defense (which may overrate him), and superb baserunning (almost adds a win each season that way).
But someone like Werth hits for average, hits for power, walks a lot, plays good defense and is a decent enough baserunner sounds like a safe bet. Not to mention he was a late bloomer so his aging curve is slightly different.
Long post was long.
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Reliable skills:
Taking walks, power. Less reliable: batting average, stealing (minor skill anyway), fielding in the OF (because it relies on speed).
Give me Darrell Evans type players any day. Wind ’em up, run ’em out there, and get reliable value year after year.
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Or I could ride my hobby horse for one more season
And say that we should make one last run at Nick Johnson – assuming he’s healed up by season’s start. A guy with a career .400 OBP is awesome if healthy.
but he never is
I think even I’m out on nick johnson.
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But that’s the thing
Hes never healthy
Hes only played 100 games 5 times in 9 years
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 12, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
wow
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Understandable of course
But for a one year 2 million contract, which is what I presume he’d get?
Worth the risk if he passes a physical.
Imagine having a leadoff hitter with a .360 OBP and great speed, and a #2 hitter with a .400 obp…
..for 200 ABs a year
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He better not be your first plan, though.
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With this roster, he’s depth.
I like what GiantPain is thinking.
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Right
If he’s healthy and productive, he can be your starting 1B and provide great value.
If he’s not – oh well. Teams take flyers all the time.
The great thing about it is that the rumors coming out last offseason made it look like Sabean was really interested in Red Six.
So if Sabean’s down, we really could be looking at the next Torres/Huff/Burrell.
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God damn it, Todd Wellemeyer.
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My new hobby horse would be Burrel gets use to useinga trapper mit. Between Him, Huff and the playing “off” day Buster or Panda I thin first would be reasonibley filled going into spring in the first time in almost a decade.
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Mark De Rosa?
Need to find spots for De Rosa; perhaps let him replace Uribe as utility man, while we get a wide-ranging shortstop to play every day.
Super utility
I forgot about DeRosa too in my lineup – I assume he’d take the place of Rohlinger, and Fontenot can back up Uribe at SS.
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LOL DeRosa
I’m going to change my sig to
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Oh yeah!
I always forget hes there.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 12, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m sure Fresno has a cold bench spot for him.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Sep 12, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I've said it before
DeRosa should be regarded as retired. If he somehow comes back, great, but the club shouldn’t be making any plans that include him as an integral component of the 2011 team. To their credit, I don’t think they are.
by taliesin on Sep 12, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
in this line
Off the main thrust, but although he’s been a total liability, obviously, and he’s likely a big ol ball of sunk cost, I’m glad to have him come into our Giants circle.
Not many ballplayers as smart and entertaining off the field as he is.
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Just curious
Where does DeRosa fit into all of this?
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t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
I’d be kinda fine with getting rid of him somehow. He doesn’t play any position particularly well, and I don’t think he’ll produce much worth at the plate if he’s not playing every day, which he won’t be.
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I think he'd be like the Giants version of Jamey Carroll
He’ll get a fair amount of starts and will play at 1st, 2nd, 3rd & LF
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
still struggling to understand the dejesus love
though if he’s a FA I guess it makes sense.
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I wasn’t a big fan of trading for him, but I don’t think he’s going to get more than a 3/$18M contract.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 12, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
6 mil a year??
is he really worth that? Good defender?
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But dave roberts got 6.5
so he’s not even as good as dave roberts?!?
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That was also an awful signing.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 12, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
yah, chasm
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garko v 2.0
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http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Padres-bullpen-leading-home-stretch-rally
Cody Ross. The accidental Giant. Ross was claimed on waivers from the Marlins on Aug. 22, presumably to keep him from getting to the Padres.
It turns out the Giants want to keep Ross beyond this season — he is valuable as a strong defender who can play all three outfield positions, though his offense has tailed off.
Ross is earning $4.45 million and eligible for salary arbitration. The Giants probably will want to work out a deal at a lower salary.
I hope this is true.
i think he’s just in a down year, offensively, his avg is about career, but just his power numbers are down a little, so i think he’ll bounce back to 20 or so HRs next year.
by giant4life83 on Sep 13, 2010 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions
His net offense value for 2010 . . .
. . . (speaking of Florida time only, I haven’t got combined stats to hand) is about 87% of his career worth (including this year in “career”). He is not, on offense, the answer to a maiden’s prayer, but he is adequate, and his positional flexibility is a significant asset.
Sabean delenda est!
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Do you ever worry that they will suddenly decide that we don’t deserve Buster Posey after all and will take him away from us?
/whispers. like the baseball gods?
//looks around
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by Giant among Angels on Sep 12, 2010 9:18 PM PDT reply actions
have you made your sacrifice?
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There aren’t any readily accessible babies nearby. So no.
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by Giant among Angels on Sep 12, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
fap/fap/fap
Done.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
God Dammit. Now he is going to go.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Sep 13, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
also
we could do a bracket of which football coach could beat each other football coach up. We could get really emotional about it.
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NORV WOULD TOTALLY FUCK UP CHILLY, HO
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MY BOY DICK JAURON IS GONNA WRECK ALL OF YOU!!!
OR BETTER YET, THE MOST EMOTIONAL COACH EVER, CAM CAMERON
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
WHEN YOU DRAFT CAM CAMERON TO KICK SOME COACH ASS
YOU DRAFT CAM CAMERON’S ENTIRE FAMILY
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I had Fentons.
It was good.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 12, 2010 9:22 PM PDT reply actions
went there last week
solid place. Tad loud though.
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Yeah, because it’s so good.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 12, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I want the Padres to lose on Monday so that the Giants can have first place all to themselves. Then have both teams split the next two. Hopefully the Giants sweep beatLA and never ever have to look back again.
This is what i say too. Irony- we’re not even playing on the day we take first place for the first time in 4 months
by giant4life83 on Sep 13, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions
What do you think Andres Torres’s injury means for the Giants?
I think it means that Torres will be out for at least this homestand and likely a bit longer. It also means that we are probably going to be doing a lot of lineup griping over the next week.
What do you think the lineup will be on Tuesday?
Bork
Sanchez
Huff
Posey
BORK
Burrell
Sandoval
Renteria
Can Barry Zito step it up, seeing how the other four members of the rotation are performing of late?
Yes, he definitely can. The real question is what changed two months ago that turned Zito into suck again? Is it fixable?
Do you ever worry that they will suddenly decide that we don’t deserve Buster Posey after all and will take him away from us?
No, that is still five years away or longer.
On a scale from 1-10, how satisfying was Mat Latos’s less than quality start?
Hrm…7
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Sep 12, 2010 9:35 PM PDT reply actions
Zito, Huff, Uribe and Burrel
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 12, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Huff
Buster
Burrell
Torres
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by Giant among Angels on Sep 12, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Posey.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 12, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Cain, Wilson, Buster, Panda
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by NuschlerFace on Sep 12, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
You just want that for your room.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 12, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Huff, Burrell, Wilson, and Posey. This is also my ideal line-up for a must-see-tv sitcom on NBC’s Thursday night lineup
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
The show names itself
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It is somewhat of a toss-up for me to have Posey vs. Matt Cain for the straight-man in this situational comedy.
Maybe Matt could play the neighbor across the hall?
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
gotta be matt
buster seems like he’d have a comedic streak in him but I can’t see that with matt
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I kinda see it the other way. Matt Cain can be pretty goofy (I am reminded of the video where they’re all playing football). Buster seems more straight-laced.
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Nate woulda had that.
by MonochromeGarden on Sep 13, 2010 5:49 AM PDT up reply actions
pressure!
Gerald
Cain
Audrey
Wilson
If posterity is an issue, then substitute Dirty or MadBum for Audrey.
If pure 2010 goodness is an issue, Gerald, Cain, Torres, Audrey. Shame to leave out Wilson here, but I’ve got to go with these four.
by non sequitur on Sep 12, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
wait wait wait i change my mind
I’ll go with Gerald, Cain, Torres, Audrey, no qualifications. Honorable mention: Wilson.
by non sequitur on Sep 12, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Bonds, Mays, McCovey, Mathewson
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Sep 12, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Posey, Huff, Torres?
Or Cain/Panda
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Sep 12, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh you said 4.
Cain it is!
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Sep 12, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Huff, Cain, Zito, and Ford.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Dammit I forgot Posey
Huff, Cain, Posey, and Ford
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
the rockies are on fire right now, unreal
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
yeah i just saw the giambi homer, freaking ridiculous man
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
that pitch was so low.
no idea how he hit it, much less out.
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Yeah that pitch was at his shins and it barely made it out.
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t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
clown park
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not to mention one-hand, back foot off the ground.
that dude still looks juiced. his arms are fucking huge
by giant4life83 on Sep 13, 2010 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Correction:
That dude still looks juiced strong.
Hard as it may be for the young—who have come of age in the midst of imbecile journalism—to believe, it is possible to be strong without juice. (Also “juice” strength has essentially nothing to do with home-run strength, but that’s yet another matter.)
Sabean delenda est!
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Coors Field + a long career fueled by steroids = improbable dingerz.
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this pic makes me happy

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I like this, but I also enjoyed during the first few innings of the game when it had a picture of Latos and a blurb about how he was in the mix for a Cy, followed by: (SF 5, SD 0)
by GrooveGiant on Sep 12, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
that’s been moved to the lower left
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Yeah, I just found the juxtaposition more glaring when the score was right next to it.
Speaking of bringing up Latos’ ERA, I can’t help but feel a little intimidated by our favorable schedule down the stretch. The Giants tend to win games they shouldn’t (Ubaldo, Halladay) and get shut out by lousy pitchers somewhat often.
by GrooveGiant on Sep 12, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, I got what you were saying about 10 msec after posting.
And yes, the Giants to like to make Joe Blow look like Cy Young.
Hopefully, there are guys with good names down the stretch.
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Shift-A
LOL [INSTITUTION OF HIGHER EDUCATION]
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
Hahaha.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 12, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
LOL
Well played
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL [NL WEST BASEBALL TEAM]
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
LOL [NFL FOOTBALL TEAM]
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Sweet
MLB Network played Tito Fuentes’ call on Panda’s gold glove snag
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
Grant just went all Keith Hernandez on the first postgame thread.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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Shift-A
bondslegend is not a douche. He just gets very worked up over football. It happens
Now on to the mod’s questions:
- Little, as long as Rowand doesn’t become a starter/lead-off man again; Rowand will be in the line-up, batting lead-off
- Hopefully
- Everyday. Sometimes twice a day.
- 6.8?
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2010 9:48 PM PDT reply actions
over football?
I’m pretty sure that part of the sentence wasn’t necessary!
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This is true. But today your anger had a football theme going.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
that tends to happen any time the niners lose
which lately has been “any time they play”
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this is true, which in turn makes me very sad
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
I STILL BELIEVE
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They were undefeated in the preseason!
Doesn’t that count for anything?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Oh wait, it doesn’t.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
yeah
no
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your just a little high strung
most of us are used to it.
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IT'S YOU'RE
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AHHHHRGGHHHGHGHHRHRHHRRHRHRHRHRH
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
CURSE WORDS
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Posted this in the last thread, but
REST OF SEASON:
Padres
7 games remaining at home, 13 on the road
Average winning percentage of upcoming opponents: .527
Rockies
9 games remaining at home, 10 on the road
Average winning percentage of upcoming opponents: .490
Giants
12 games remaining at home, 6 on the road
Average winning percentage of upcoming opponents: .496
Mois aussi.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 12, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
must root for rockies tomorrow, so we can have first for one day
by giant4life83 on Sep 13, 2010 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions
much as I hate relying on schedule
that sure is purty
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Optimistic or pessimistic over new Wall Street?
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pessimistic.
Optimistic on The Social Network. I definitely think there’s a very strong chance those box office results are opposite, though.
I am very much the opposite.
Cautiously optimistic about Wall Street. Pessimistic about The Social Network, even if Sorkin penned it.
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with Jesse Eisenberg
I’d be more excited it if were The Social Network Land
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Still need to see the original
on one hand I fucking hate shiah elajeboiebouggfff. But on the other hand I really like michael douglas…so yeah.
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Pretty much this.
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
I agree with every point of this comment. But every time I have the option to watch the OG Wall Street I’m not in the mood.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Which part, specifically?
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh. Just think of me and Wall Street as a sad married couple
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
When’s the last time Oliver Stone made a good movie?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
JFK
It was an affront to history and honest storytelling, but it was a damned good movie.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 12, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
But I'm Keith Hernandez
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the subtitle name sounds like a parody
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I actually thought that by "new Wall Street"
you were talking about the stock market rally earlier in the week, and if that was any indication that the market may indeed avoid a double-dip. But….the movie is looking OK I guess.
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stinking torrent needs to post already argghh
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Chris Carpenter is coming in?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Dick Whitman just had a memorable cab ride...
by Every6thDay on Sep 12, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd like to see Ross play CF when Torres is out
and see Nate play RF, but I realize that’s pushing it. Aaron Rowand is just an awful player at this point, and that contract may be even worse than Zito’s.
Ideal lineup (until Torres gets back)
Freddy Sanchez
Posey
Huff
Burrell
Sandoval
Ross
Uribe
JUGGERNate
Pitcher
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
I agree , my good sir.
My hierarchy of fourth OFs looks something like
Ross > Schierholtz > Rowand > Guillen
by GiantPain on Sep 12, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That looks just about right to me.
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JESUS CHRIST I FALL ASLEEP FOR 2 HOURS AND THIS HAPPENS
lets see here………LOL REX ’LETS GI GET A FUCKING SNACK" RYAN
and……….posey,huff,madbum,and…………velez. fot the lulz
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by sadison bummedgarner on Sep 12, 2010 10:06 PM PDT reply actions
I have no idea what the football comments are about. I guess this is what it’s like for normal people when I talk baseball.
lol me too. i get all deep into talking about it, and notice theyve lost interest a looooong time ago
by giant4life83 on Sep 13, 2010 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions
OT:
Watching Kalifornia, Brad Pitt is really creepy in this movie.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
So did I.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 12, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I did too!
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yep
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by sadison bummedgarner on Sep 12, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
OT:
I know a lot of people make bad choices in college, but does my bad choice for the week have to be watching the VMAs? /headdesk
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 12, 2010 10:10 PM PDT reply actions
LOL vmas
yeah, not a good call
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I just ditched that. lol.
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Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 12, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
It has sucked this year, even for the VMA’s.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Sep 12, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm way way too old to have watched that shit.
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We all are
El Person is too old and he’s a teenager.
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three straight OT!
Watching breaking bad, anyone else seen it? Skylar is being kind of a bitch
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the acting is unbelievably good on this show.
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I stopped watching at the end of the second season
Got a little too crazy for me.
I just didn't buy the main characters actions.
I mean it’s still a solid show, but I think they kind ajumped the shark. Its also about drug dealing, which is already a big enough part of my life.
I will say
If there’s one thing odd about the show, it’s Walt’s decision to get into it. After that though, I’d say there are no stretches for me.
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just finished season 2 ep 5
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reply fail LOL me
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Let me put it this way
Season 2 is one of the best seasons of TV I’ve ever seen.
Then season 3 happened.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
OMG
I thought I finally made it threw the postgame thread and then theres this! I couldn’t finish reading it all. Anyways, awesome day! I’m not a niner fan, but my condolences. My Chiefs won’t fare much better. And Lol Cowboys and Hells yeah Timmy!
Fuck The Padres
Go thomas jones!
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
ITS MATT CASSELS’ TEAM!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Sep 12, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I have him in one league D:
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Pokemonz?
This is actually Jamaal Charles team, but that’s not saying much. Not many players show up on sundays (Thank god its monday)
Btw, I had Arian Foster…on the bench :/
by Artimus Clyde on Sep 12, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, me too
have TJ in a 20 team league
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn thats deep
I just about killed myself today seeing 41 points on the bench
by Artimus Clyde on Sep 12, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, that sucks.
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: The Crackdown
A couple weeks ago, I finished watching the second season of Dexter. It’s not that it’s a bad show, or even that the second season was worse than the first, but I don’t really have any desire to keep watching it.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I liked season two more than season one, but I think you’re fine not watching the show after that. Season three is a let down and season four is pretty familiar in terms of the show’s formula, but it does have a surprise or two that you can just read about on-line somewhere.
by Every6thDay on Sep 12, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
The seasons are getting a little formulaic – very slow start with some OH SHIT moments mixed in, then finally building to an epic last couple of episodes.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Season five looks interesting if they actually break the formula (which it seems like they at least want to try).
by Every6thDay on Sep 12, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
No, they want you to think they might break the formula before they go back to business as usual because hey, free drama.
See: House
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Which is why I stopped watching House!
That said, Dexter does actually do things to its characters that have longterm effects, so that’s cool.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yeah, they’re really just throwing Dexter into the “Big Bad” role for the season, meaning it’ll play out like normal.
by Every6thDay on Sep 12, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
OT:i cant wrap my head around this
http://www.hulu.com/watch/176392/americas-got-talent-week-15-jackie-evancho
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by sadison bummedgarner on Sep 12, 2010 10:19 PM PDT reply actions
She hasn’t even hit puberty yet.
SUSTAINABLE!
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I know it’s a joke, but it probably is sustainable. She may not wind up a soprano, but she obviously has perfect pitch and incredible overall singing talent. Even if her voice changes, she’s still going to be a great singer.
There’s a lot that can go wrong when you’re ten years wrong. She obviously has great training, and is very mature/composed for her age, but if she’s mismanaged at all it could get derailed pretty quickly.
Wishing her the best, obviously. I’ve just seen it happen to friends who had very promising careers in music have it happen to them.
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Redundant conclusion is redundant.
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He draws walks
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Love the K/BB ratio. I’m sure he calls a shitty game, though.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 12, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Always wanting to play Boggle when everybody else wants to play Scrabble.
by Every6thDay on Sep 12, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
actually, I’ve heard a lot of Rays fans (and smart ones) say that he does indeed call a shitty game, and that he’s particularly bad with Shields.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
GIS for "john jaso"

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by sadison bummedgarner on Sep 12, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
because he plays for the rays
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Dammit,
I’m here to talk about lunch!!!
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 12, 2010 10:26 PM PDT reply actions
loldrunk
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Can i get a LOLCOWBOYS
all you had to do was take a knee dumbass.
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by sadison bummedgarner on Sep 12, 2010 10:29 PM PDT reply actions
Alolex Barron
probably the worst olineman in the league.
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
It sure seemed like Romo was gonna get sacked if he didn’t do that though.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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yeah, he definitely was
which is why IDK why they were all freaking out about it. Still hilarious though, because they got their little moment of thinking they’d won before crushing disappointment. Much worse to lose that way than to get blown out IMO
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
One thing i took from that game? Miles Austin will be one of the best receivers this year
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
not as good as crabtree though
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
HAHAHA
Dude didnt do shit today
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well
he made a catchable pass, although hot, into an interception
so there’s that
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you just cant teach that kind of thing
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Baggs post-game notes are up
Best:
The Giants will face two lefties in the three-game series against the Dodgers (Clayton Kershaw on Tuesday, Ted Lilly on Thursday). Seems like a good time to get Ross some at-bats.
And perhaps start Nate Schierholtz in right field on Wednesday against Chad Billingsley.
What about Jose Guillen? Well … I’m changing my tune on him again.
Guillen had a nice battle against Latos to get a sacrifice fly on a two-strike swing today, but it’s getting harder and harder to justify playing him every day – no matter what he was or wasn’t promised by management.
Oh, Baggs
After the game, I asked Manager Bruce Bochy if he and GM Brian Sabean had discussed external possibilities for a leadoff man/center fielder. He said no, nothing has come up yet.
But here’s a thought: The Dodgers acquired Scott Podsednik in late July and they aren’t going anywhere now. I could see Ned Colletti doing the Giants a favor and sending him over for whomever Sabean would give him off the 40-man roster (Alex Hinshaw, Waldis Joaquin, etc.).
Podsednik will arrive at AT&T Park along with the rest of the Dodgers on Tuesday, too.
So hey, free shipping.
One detail: I don’t know Podsednik’s waiver status. If the Dodgers already placed Podsednik on waivers and pulled him back following a claim, he can’t be traded. (If he cleared waivers, he can be traded to anyone at any time.)
As you probably know, any players acquired after Sept. 1 are ineligible for the postseason roster. But if Scotty Pods can help for two weeks while Torres recovers from his appendectomy, you better believe he could earn himself a partial share – and he’d be worth getting.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm

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by SoFa King Mike on Sep 12, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL and this
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
It pains me to say it, but Podsednik would probably be a better option to lead off than anyone the Giants currently have. As it stands right now, Posey would probably be the best choice to lead off, and obviously that isn’t happening. So, given that, I would certainly give up Hinshaw for two weeks of Pods. (Note that is basically nothing.)
Podsednik would not be a better choice than Cody Ross,even if he were healthy.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Yeah, Pods’ defense is pretty bad, iirc.
by Dan from NM on Sep 12, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Think so?
Ross might be a marginally better hitter overall, but Podsednik has a much higher OBP.
defense
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this
of all the players available, I want Ross in CF until Torres is ok.
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You think there’s much difference? Podsednik is -1 UZR/150 as an OF, Ross is +1. That seems like the same to me.
bah
one more instance where defensive stats have not caught up.
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You do realize that Podsednik has played most of his career as a LF right? Where Ross has mostly been a CF? Huge difference?
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Eh, Pods has played about 40% of his innings in CF and 60% in LF. while Ross has played about 60% in CF and 40% in RF. That’s probably worth about 2 or 3 runs additional difference, assuming fangraphs doesn’t adjust their cumulative OF totals for position, which is probably true. A four- or five-run difference still seems pretty minor to me, and probably not enough to make up for Podsednik being better with the bat this season.
Moreover, since Pods is a LHH, you wouldn’t even have to choose; you could platoon the two of them.
Ross would be a better player to have in the lineup, so I’d rather have him at leadoff.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
For the entire season
Podsendik: .724 OPS
Ross: .704 OPS
Ross is already on the team. Not worth giving up something for that extra .02 OPS.
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Wait, he's injured?
Well, that practically makes it a dead certainty that Sabean will trade for him.
Ohhhhh. Thats why Headley was pissed
Funny how this game works. A day after the Giants were furious with plate ump Jerry Crawford, it was the Padres’ turn to take exception. Chase Headley was upset that he wasn’t granted time by plate ump Phil Cuzzi, and manager Bud Black had to run onto the field to keep his player from getting himself tossed.
I'm so glad Timmy is talking to his father again.
"My big thing in talking to my dad is if my shoulders are going side to side, that won’t benefit me," he said. "I’m more an over-the-top guy to create that downward angle to home plate. If (hitters) only see the top half of the ball, they have to make a decision."
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Just going to post this
Can the Giants hire Timmys dad as a consultant or something
Shift A
HOLY HELL COMMENT EXPLOSION.
Nice try steering the ship, jponry.
1) Torres’ injury worries me greatly. However, playoff teams have people step up to fill those voids. This will be a tough stretch for the Giants without their cantaloupe. If they make it through they will truly deserve to be in the playoffs. Lineup Tuesday? Lefty?
Rowand CF
Sanchez 2B
Huff 1B
Posey C
Burrell LF
Guillen RF
Uribe 3B
Rent SS
Zito P
Pablo sits against the lefty. Guillen never sits because, 60 rbi hitter.
2) Zito may not go nuts, but I think he will pitch decent, 2-3 runs over 6-7 innings. He will be pumped to open up this stretch at home against the struggling Dodgers.
3) I would like to see them try to take back our Buster.
4) 15. It was terrific to finally touch up Latos. However, would I do unspeakable things to have him pitch for the Giants? Yeah.
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Doesn’t Nate hit lefties well?
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by GrooveGiant on Sep 12, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
This is the lineup I think will actually happen Tuesday.
My fantasy lineup I guess would be:
Ross CF
Sanchez 2B
Huff 1B
Posey C
Burrell RF
Uribe SS
Panda 3B
Nate RF
Zito P
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Best
Best line up I’ve seen so far on both forums.
But I know I’m in the minority but I would rather have Guillen’s potential bat in there against a lefty. I like Nate but he just isn’t a consistent hitter, but then again the organization has never given a real opportunity to prove he can do it.
His career numbers are great against lefties, but he only has about 150 career ABs against them. So it’s promising, but there’s a healthy SSS alert around his split numbers.
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OT
I just finished Batman: Arkham Asylum on PS3. That game was spectacular. What should I play next?
Excellent game indeed. Have you played Uncharted 1 and 2?
by giants92388 on Sep 12, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
both excellent
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah that was fun
Uncharted 1 and 2 and Assassin’s Creed 2 (1 if you want the story) would be the best games I’ve played along with MGS4.
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Shift Saturday+Sunday
a) Torres’s absence will be felt strongly. I’m most worried about the road trip to Coors in two weekends—I cringe at the thought of Guillen trying to chase down balls in the gap, at altitude. Lineup Tuesday should be (but won’t be) Ross RF, Sanchez 2B, Huff 1B, Posey C, Burrell LF, Uribe 3B, Renteria SS, Rowand CF, Zito P
b) I think Barry is finally going to get a win on Tuesday. He pitched pretty well last time out, and he has real motivation what with Santiago Casilla’s win total getting larger in the rear-view mirror.
c) Buster Posey will never be taken away from us. Unfortunately, neither will Brian Sabean.
d) Mat Latos. Heh heh heh.
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Sandoval is hitting very well at AT&T. I would rather he be in the lineup over Rent.
by GrooveGiant on Sep 12, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve never thought about the implications about playing professional sports at altitude without acclimation. Spending my summers at an altitude comparable to Denver’s, I can actually see how that would make the home field advantage more pronounced over long homestands. I wonder if anyone’s ever done research on that…
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OT: New Venture Brothers in 5 minutes!
FINALLY
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I love this team
I was over on GLB and apparently the Giants broke some streak of Latos’ going games while giving up 2 runs or fewer today.
Which is funny because I was at a game this year against the Marlins where they broke Josh Johnson’s streak of games going 6 or more innings while giving up 2 runs or fewer.
And they also screwed up Ubaldo Jiminez’s run of success way back when.
Jeez, did we also smack around Roy Halladay or something?
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We beat the best, and lose to the n00bs. It’s frustrating, in some respects.
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This
kills me. untested rookie? CGSO, at risk for no-hitter
by giant4life83 on Sep 13, 2010 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t know there was a new thread. Because there is a new thread, I think it’s important that I mention again that the word is actually gynecocracy.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
Gymnococracy.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Run by the naked hall?
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The naked kids in the hall.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Kids in the Hall? Canadians?
Fuck that shit.
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Canacocdians.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: I didn't think
that my sister and I could buy a 15-sample ticket to the Ghirardelli Chocolate Festival at 3:30 today (festival closed at 5, stands closed up at 4:30) and take 15 samples within an hour.
The thing is, it happened.
And judging by the chocolate martini, ’twas better than I thought it would be.
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posted this on the other thread, but
Tim lincecum has the same number of RBIs (2) than the Padres have had the past 3 games.
thoughts?
Giants baseball, torture!
LOL PADRES
that’s my thoughts.
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by bondslegend on Sep 12, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Yay.
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Reminds me a bit
of this game.
LOL .429 average.
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and all of a sudden, Timmy's hair is cool again
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OT: Poll shows O'Donnell ahead in the Delaware Senate race
This is wonderful.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
It’ll be pretty entertaining this election cycle, I’ll give it that.
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For a second I thought that said Rosie O'Donnell
And I thought BLEGH!
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That moment would be
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Actually Rosie might be better
This O’Donnell is a teabagger.
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You don’t like the other candidate who is a moderate? Fiscal conservative and social liberal?
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
No. He’s a Republican. All Republicans are (more or less) the same; the votes on contentious legislation in this Congress ought to show that. Where he differs from the national party, it’s on things like guns (which don’t affect me) and abortion (over which Congress has no control).
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
You have a lot to learn. They are NOT more or less the same. Just like Democrats are not the same.
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Aha, Democrats are different. There are too many Democrats from Republican-leaning districts (and opportunists like Artur Davis) for there to be meaningful party discipline. On the other hand, Republicans (save Joseph Cao, who has his own problems to figure out) have formed a solid phalanx in opposition to, well, everything.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
My point is you have to take each individual candidate and not lump as one party. There are people in the GOP who are embarrassed with the tea bagger (i.e. nazi for those who don’t know what I mean) movement. There are democrats who gave trouble with the health care bill like Nelson of Nebraska and the two Maine senators.
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WTF?
Tea Party = Nazi?
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The people in the tea party movement are nothing but a bunch of racists who wouldn’t exist if black man wasn’t in the White House.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
That’s painting with a broad brush.
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It is but they don’t exist if even a Walter Mondale is in the White House.
And I think we should pretty much end this here because we may be boring people more than the football talk.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Yes, let's.
TROY SMITH, EMEREFERS!
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IT’S “MOTHERFUCKERS” OKAY? START GETTING IT RIGHT OR GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY CLUB!
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by howtheyscored on Sep 13, 2010 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Waaaaah! Waaaaah! Waaaaah!
You made me cry.
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But in the morning when the see 2000 posts and it isn’t from pika…
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We’re not arguing but I think a lot of people would find this really boring.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
True. I’m going to sleep soon anyway. I just need to finish my history homework.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
It’s 1 in the morning. Don’t you have school early?
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Good luck with that.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 13, 2010 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions
The Maine Senators are Republicans
Which, in a sense, is what I’m getting at. They have this reputation for moderation, but when push came to shove they voted with the Republicans on health care. If there are Republicans in high office who don’t like the teabaggers, they’ve been remarkably mum about it. The GOP establishment has been riding the teabagger wave, and if they wipe out on it I won’t be shedding any tears.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
I think El Person’s point is that O’Donnell winning → far greater chances of Democrat victory in that particular race.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Yes but the other guy isn’t a bad candidate.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Oh, OK, I see where both sides are coming from now.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Basically what I’m saying is that I’d prefer Coons (the Democrat) to Castle (the moderate), and that an O’Donnell victory would mean a Coons victory, whereas a Castle victory likely would not. THe situation’s different in other places.
But I think the term “moderate” is overused. Castle is a genuine moderate, but in Alaska Lisa Murkowski’s being called a moderate, when in reality she’s a product of nepotism with no redeeming characteristics who happens to be mildly pro-abortion (something that Congress doesn’t even control), who was defeated by a much better candidate who happened to be endorsed by Palin et al.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
A lot of “liberals” are assuming that any Democrat will defeat any Tea Party Repug. I think there will be some sad surprises on this topic after election day. And, stupid as the TPs seem, they are not all nazis. Some of them know what’s wrong but have looney ideas about what to do about it. If the Demos actually stood for anything good, half the TPs would be Demos.
by Comrade Conrad on Sep 13, 2010 1:29 AM PDT up reply actions
GIS for "The Situation's different"

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Ralph Waldo Emerson’s Self-Reliance is a frustrating read for a lot of reasons, but his thoughts on party lines, as expressed in that essay, are as relevant today as they ever were, if not more so.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 13, 2010 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t really care what O’Donnell does in the privacy of her own bedroom.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
You done? I have some more visuals for you.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 13, 2010 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Lemon tentacle party.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 13, 2010 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions
BAD VISUAL
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Chris?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 13, 2010 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking of Robin, but sure.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 13, 2010 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Cool, secret thread...that everyone knows about
1-Cody Ross needs to be the everyday CF.
2-I think Zito will pitch decently.
3-Aint Havin It
4-LOLatos
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
What is all this talk of "football"?
There are two classes of sports: baseball, and a bunch of largely fungible exercises carried on on symmetrical fields with a clock. Who cares about the second class?
Sabean delenda est!
And good night to all, even those who think that there are sports other than baseball. I mean, don’t you have the T-Shirt? “Baseball is life; the rest is details.”
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I tried to think of an exception but I couldn’t. Unless cricket isn’t symmetrical.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Cricket is an exception, but . . .
. . . it’s just something that always wanted to be baseball when it grew up.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I know it's chasm but...
I let people watch what the hell they want. I hate soccer but I won’t get on people who do like it.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I’ll get on anyone who will let me, soccer fan or no.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 13, 2010 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d like to throw it out there, as long as people are posting “wishful thinking” lineups in the absence of Torres, that Cody Ross and Freddy Sanchez are not the guys you want to have at the top of your lineup.
I know people are probably working off of alterations to Bochy’s previous lineups, but seriously, most of the lineups I see have a hitter with a .320 OBP talent level at the top. That’s not going to maximize your run output. I’d see this as close to optimal:
Posey
Huff
Burrell
Sanchez
Sandoval
Uribe
Ross
Schierholtz/Guillen
Just because it looks unorthodox doesn’t mean it’s less efficient.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Wishful thinking but we all know what Bochy will do
And it’s going to be pretty close to what we saw Sunday.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Starts off well . . .
. . . but where did Sanchez at clean-up sneak in?
The current Giants with OB stats above league average (.316) are:
Huff .370
Burrell .376
Posey .354
Fontenot .351
FSanchez .334
Renteria .333
Sandoval .321
The Giants with above-average (.361) TB/PA stats—roughly indicative of RBI ability—are:
Posey .462
Huff .438
Burrell .434
Uribe .393
Sandoval .376
Ishikawa .365
As can readily be seen, Huff and Burrell are, right now, virtual twins.
A reasonable use of the talent (keeping in mind The Book’s recommendations) is probably—
Huff 1B
Burrell LF
Uribe SS
Posey C
Sandoval 3B
Ross CF
Guillen/Schierholtz RF
FSanchez/Fontenot 2B
—where the slashes are “take yer pick” (or by handedness). Posey is in #4 because that’s actually more critical (according to The Book) than the #3 hole. Personally, I’d be willing to entertain arguments for Sandoval changing places with Uribe, but it depends on how strong a case can be made for “Panda’s back”.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I don’t mind Huff and Burrell getting lots of ABs at the top of the order, but Uribe batting third would be pretty lousy. He has his uses, but he is not and never will be a #3 hitter with his plate approach.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I have to ask some of you
Why you post at Baggs’ blog? There seems to be a high number of idiots there.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Any place like that with comments enabled attracts the idiots. I think sites like McC are mostly idiot-proof because you have to kind of search for “Giants blog” or something rather than go to MLB.com and sign-up.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Another factor is the fact that you have to make an account here rather than just typing in a name and e-mail address. Someone who decides to create an account has probably looked at the site discourse and decided they like it.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
I started there so I’m having trouble stopping.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Padres at San Francisco, Rockies at St. Louis and Phillies at Atlanta.
final weekend of baseball. you couldn’t script this any better. buckle up, guys. were in for a RIDE!!
So far only Phillies at Braves is on FOX Saturday baseball. If the NL West race holds up, Padres at Giants will be added.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Dammit no
I want to be able to watch the damn game.
But I want to win most of all.
Go jump in Toews Lake.
Aubrey: old German for king of the elves. Huff: English for...huff.
by shinkicker on Sep 13, 2010 5:31 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I just realized Freddy Sanchez is basically a good-twin version of Eckstein
Buster Posey ain't havin it... He aint.
by Caine Black Knife on Sep 13, 2010 3:56 AM PDT reply actions
Good morning, nerbs!
Wait. I’m alone.
Well, good morning, anyway.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
Good morning, Letter!
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 13, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, I woke up with Zito's "Boy Next Door" stuck in my head
And I’m choosing to take it as a good sign.
And I’ll go all Charleton Heston over Buster Posey if I have to.
Go jump in Toews Lake.
Aubrey: old German for king of the elves. Huff: English for...huff.
by shinkicker on Sep 13, 2010 4:48 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
The lyrics to that song are weird.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 13, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
When the ol' mind starts to wander...
I keep thinking I’d be in an ideal position to write the much-speculated-upon morning roundup, being two hours ahead and all. But then I remember the reason I’m up at such hours is because I have a job that requires early hours. So I wouldn’t be able to publish a creative and thorough daily product.
Also, I firmly suspect my morning update would have a crossword puzzle, a David Brooks column and “Dear Abby,” but no actual talk of baseball.
Listen to this! I’m talking to myself! I love it.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
34 BB's .315 OBP
Don’t know if I want Ross batting numero uno
Kevin Mitchell has a black belt in keeping it real.
My pick for leadoff hitter

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
those rattan chairs have better OBP than Rowand, so I think that’s a good choice
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
And the Range of Guillen!
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
by daveinexile on Sep 13, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Shift-A: Giants in first place!!!
Who exactly is the “they” in jponry’s opening comment re Buster?
BTW: It’s a good thing that the NFL put in a 5th preseason game…the Niners don’t look ready for the season after that debacle in Seattle. At least that was the Niners’ first preseaon loss.
/2002 WS Picture
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
Two words for leadoff in Bochy's mind....
Eugenio Velez
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Jeff Francis will be held to 70 pitches tonight. Am I right in thinking that long relief is a weak spot (TWSS) for the Rox?
They could be Giants...but not really.
LOL
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Sep 13, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
70 pitches LOL
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Sep 13, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
But seriously folks...
What’s wrong with Darren Ford? If he could bunt, even a little bit, or adopt a Henderson-esque batting stance, he could get on base at least once every three AB. If he can catch a fly ball, his wheels would allow him to play center.
That would lead us to:
Ford – CF
Posey – C
Huff – 1B
Burrell – LF
Uribe – SS
Sandoval – 3B
Schierholtz/Ross platoon – RF
Fontenot – 2B
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
And if Franchez is OK, pop him up to #2
And move everyone down a slot.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
by ToddCommish on Sep 13, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Give him a shot
We have KNOWN mediocrity in Rowand/Velez etc…. Why not give our fastest player EVAH a shot?
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
by ToddCommish on Sep 13, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
He couldn't do worse than Rowand did yesterday..
Unless he shit in the dugout.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
by ToddCommish on Sep 13, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a five year old niece who can’t hit major league pitching. Let’s give her a shot. We have KNOWN mediocrity in Rowand/Velez.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 13, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
If he could bunt, even a little bit, or adopt a Henderson-esque batting stance, he could get on base at least once every three AB.
This thought is absolutely crazy. The guy hits like a pitcher. You can’t bunt yourself on base once a game when the infield is charging every single pitch. You have to be able to hit before you can bunt hit.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 13, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
HER NERDS READ GRANT’S FUCKING BLOG
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 13, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
"HER NERDS"?
Is that the name of Jponry’s backup band?
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

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