Post-game thread: Padres out-Padre the Giants
It started like this:
That was Posey’s at-bat in the fourth. There were earlier examples, but this was the most egregious. And the Giants were probably a little shocked. The strike zone was wide today. Jerry Crawford is in the same canasta club as Eric Gregg, and they were playing "Truth or Dare" before each hand. It happens. You don’t want to know what Gregg had to do.
That wide strike zone led to at-bats like this:
Those first two pitches were called strikes, which meant that Pat Burrell had to swing at the third one in the seventh inning. Quick strikeout with one borderline strike. That’s swell. The strike zone also lends itself to at-bats like this:
This is from Torres’s at-bat in the eighth. The second pitch was a called strike. It’s hard to see way out there, buried beneath other balls, but it was. That set up the fourth pitch right on the inside corner, which had to look like it was going to hit Torres if he was thinking about pitches six inches off the corner. Of course, he flailed away at a pitch out of the zone that had been called a ball and a strike in the same at-bat.
The strike zone was kind of a joke all day. Madison Bumgarner pitched magnificently, but he didn’t really venture to the outside corner that much. Not enough to benefit from the ridiculously wide zone, at least. Here’s the thing, though, the Padres pitched to that strike zone perfectly. They kept going out there with precision, and when they needed to keep the Giants hitters honest, they’d come in at just the right time. Crawford is an unfunny punch line of an umpire, yes. It was hard to tell where the terrible offense ended and where the terrible strike zone started, sure. But I’m not going to take the game away from the Padres. They took what the umpire gave them. I’d expect the Giants to do the same if the situations were reversed.
I’ll still be bitter when I think about the 0-1 counts that should have been 1-0 counts. And Jerry Crawford should be embarrassed. It was a crazy, inconsistent strike zone. But the game did end like this:
All swinging. Crawford didn’t do that. Posey couldn’t hit Bell’s fastball. Fontenot couldn’t hit Adams’s fastball. There were a lot of at-bats that had nothing to do with Crawford but still ended with an out. It was the typical Giants in San Diego performance. Jerry Crawford was just the trampoline to help Michael Jordan dunk.
The Giants have scored one run in the last 18 innings. They’ve won one of those games. At this point, I’ll just be thrilled at that, and forget this game ever happened. Because it didn’t. What game?
And if Yorvit Torrealba doesn't hit the shortest home run in the history of the park, the Padres would have won on a David Eckstein triple in the 14th inning. So count your blessings that you have the rest of the day to yourself.
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But he’s still going to start Guillen.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 11, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s breaking the fourth wall!
Bowkermania runs wild...in Pittsburgh.
by rightcenterfielder on Sep 11, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Aaron Rowand broke character and his face doing that once.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 11, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
the grittiest actor of our generation
Bowkermania runs wild...in Pittsburgh.
by rightcenterfielder on Sep 11, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m glad I missed that one.
But there were no tacos. FFF.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 3:53 PM PDT reply actions
Nah. I just went with one of my friends and we just hung out and ate Mexican pastries.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
We’re nerds.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Then it’s appropriate. Although you should have been in your mother’s basement like me.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Haha. We did end up signing up for this event to raise money for a children’s hospital.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
UBERNERDS
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Twas very much so, sir.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
TAKE GUILLEN OUT OF THE LINEUP!
REPLY TO DONUT
by GovernorStephCurry on Sep 11, 2010 3:54 PM PDT reply actions
Take me out of the lineup!
Oh wait- I’m not on the team and can’t play for shit.
Rooting for the Yankees is like cheering the tanks at Tianamen Square.
Meh
I think Botchy is purposely giving Panda a rest. Sad to think at 24 years old he needs rest, but all that extra weight will do it.
It's better to be lucky than good.
by Myemail21479 on Sep 11, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
As much as I hate Guillen, I don’t think Cody Ross was the solution to today’s problem.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 11, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
He wants to get Eli Whiteside in there!
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Guillen had the besst hit ball, by far, of any Giants today.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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Cody Ross may be better than Jose Guillen, but not “any day.” In fact, there’s been few days since he came here that he was better than Jose Guillen.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
i think some of that can be attitributed to lack of playing time. he was a starter for years in FLA, then came here and gets 30 ABs in 3 weeks
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, but he wasn’t having a good year in Florida either. It’s not like he was tearing it up and Bochy took away all his momentum by benching him.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
I'm of this mind.
Career-wise I don’t see much difference offensively between Ross and Guillen (or Rowand for that matter). It is the defense that give Ross the nod, but if you were going by that you’d probably give Scotty the nod over Ross.
I believe in statistics, but I also believe that a hitter can be in a slump and not seeing the ball well. In my opinion, Ross and Rowand are not as much as an offensive weapon as Guillen is right now and it has nothing to do with the number of ABs that they are getting.
Man, I forgot Rowand was on the team.
As much as we rag on him, I think it’s still underappreciated just how horrible Guillen has been as a Giant. He has 18 strikeouts and 3 walks. He’s hitting over 60% ground balls. His current pace, projected over a full season, would have him hitting 8 home runs and 30 double plays. And he can’t run, and he can’t field. He’s just killing the team.
I totally agree. The problem, is Bochy loves him
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Many say that we should play Guillen over Ross because Guillen is seeing the ball well.
OK, that means that Guillen is performing highly. Well, let’s pro-rate this “hot” Guillen’s performance with the Giants for a full season of 150 games.
What’s our total? -1.96 WAR.
Don’t believe me? Check the calculation yourself.
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by dregarx on Sep 11, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
I’ll deign to accept rec’s for this comment.
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holy shit. he really is costing us wins
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
If you rec’d that one, I would freak out.
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Oh, I agree, he's bad
but the problem is that I really believe if Ross, Rowand or Nate had as many ABs, they would have performed even worse offensively.
At least with those other guys you get some decent defense. I think Guillen starting almost every game is not the best option, although, I also think it’s not cost the Giants as much as some on here would have you believe (Guillen is responsible for every loss).
Sorry
That was a convenient time to run the calculation, but it looks like the comment doesn’t really apply as directed to you.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I’m not sure those of us who are blaming Guillen for every loss, are really blaming Guillen for every loss. The Giants tried to play his acquisition off as being the move that would catapult the Giants into November baseball. And maybe if he was USED CORRECTLY AS A PINCH HITTER OFF THE BENCH that could be true. As it stands now? Poop on him!!! And now-a-days anytime anything happens around the Merope household we just say “Guillen did it!!!” (In the past we’d blame it on the cat. Who moved my bowling ball? The cat did it!!!)
Ross and Guillen had very similar batting lines before they came to SF
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
Barry Bonds may have be better than Pedro Feliz in 2005, but not “any day”. In fact, on September 15th, 2005, Pedro Feliz was better than Bonds was.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
We are all better than Barry?
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 11, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I know everyone is tired of listening to everyone else complain about Jose Guillen
but let’s not do the thing where we just go against the groupthink because it’s the groupthink.
An empty .300 with poor defense and no baserunning ability is not a positive contribution to a baseball team.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
by oldjacket on Sep 11, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
I would agree with this comment
Guillen was definitely not the answer to the “big bat” issue. I don’t envy Bochy having to decide between Guillen, Ross, Rowand or Nate. None of them are really the solution.
I think that Ross, while a flawed player, is a clear upgrade over both Rowand and Guillen. I’m still not sure about Schierholtz.
I can understand if people are tired of hearing about it, but being tired of hearing about doesn’t make it false.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
Yep. In such a tight race, you need to maximize your talent best as possible.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
If I were to broker a peace treaty
I would put this on the table. The Ross fans just be a little quieter for a while, and the Guillen defenders stop posting preposterous defenses of Jose Guillen’s value as a starter.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
There's jose guillen defenders on this site?
I didn’t know scottinmarin got a new user name.
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I was blacked out today, but Kruk and Kuip said Uribe’s ball was hard hit and Flannery would have stopped any other runner as well.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
Ironically, a faster runner may have tempted Flannery. Probably leading to an out.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
Jose Guillen had a zero percent chance of scoring on that play.
Maybe less.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
why is Cody Ross the option we talk about most? Ross probably shouldn’t ever play vs. RHP, but Ishikawa and Schierholtz are both viable options.
Thing A
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Because Nate and Ishi have shown no signs they can hit.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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I’ve been an Ishikawa booster since the start of last season, but I’m starting to doubt if he will be anything more than replacement level.
I’d have more hope for Nate if he profiled more like a corner outfielder and less like a defensive center fielder.
They’ve had their share of delivering in big spots this year, but I don’t know. If it had to be anything, I guess I’d be hoping for a Ross/Schierholtz platoon in RF.
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Ishikawa is definitely more than replacement, rather just below average.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
He’s just about directly between replacement and average.
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Last year he was worth 1.1 WAR according to FanGraphs: big boost from his defense, negative value with his bat (despite hitting ungodly well at home), and of course a ding for positional adjustment.
So he was above replacement level, but great defense at first base only gets you so far when you don’t hit for average or power particularly well. He’s not a long term solution or a particular improvement over Ross/Guillen/Schierholtz.
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Didn’t say he was. But replacement is a bit harsh. That’s Velezian.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Personally, I ding him more heavily for being a first baseman. You need a power hitter in that position, and him playing means that you are playing a second baseman with below average speed at that position. I don’t really know what he brings to this team anymore.
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Meh, value is value. Traditionally you’d prefer your 1B to bring more offense, but you can’t dock a guy for being defensive 1st.
The problem is that his offense is that bad, which is your point in the 1st place.
Basically, I agree!
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
If he could be a league average hitter at his position, the defense would be gravy. But yeah, right now he isn’t cutting it.
I see Schierholtz and Ishikawa as more or less fungible offensively. They are 7th or 8th hole left-handed bats with occasional pop that struggle with back foot sliders and strong fastballs. They show flashes of competence, but nothing special. Maybe in a full season, their average improves to something like .280/.340/.440. If I had to choose one at this point, I choose the one whose defense is more valuable to a fly ball pitching staff and has speed, even if he doesn’t use it particularly well. Advantage Nate.
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yeah so far Ross has provided the Giants offense with 5 singles and thats it.
Uribe is Mang who cong tru een clush
by Buster-Jangle on Sep 11, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll listen to a play Nate argument right now, but Cody Ross has done nothing.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
And Guillen has 22 hits in 75 at bats. What’s your point?
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My point is that neither of those things tell us much about either player.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
But yet Guillen is the worst player ever based on a .338 OBP in 80 PAs.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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That seems to be the consensus.
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Combining that with his defense — let alone his career numbers — and he’s really, really bad.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 11, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
.338 OBP is good.
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Not really. Especially from a corner outfielder.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 11, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m sure the 18/3 K/BB ratio is just a mirage, though.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 11, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Saying Guillen has no power is ridiculous, you do know that, right? I know he’s only hit one HR since joining the Giants, but he had 16 before he got here. Cody Ross has hit zero since he came here, but I saw enough of him in Florida to know he has power, so I don’t use “no power” as an argument.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
The argument was that his .338 OBP was good. He was arguing about a small sample size. The fact is, he hasn’t shown power here.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
how many homeruns in his short time with the team would be ok to you? I remember a game where he just missed three of them.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
I don’t think would be OK with me has anything to do with the matter.
His defense was that Guillen has a .338 with the Giants with is good. You can’t nitpick statistics. His slugging with the Giants is low. I never made any claims about his true talent level in this entire sequence when it comes to his power.
Guillen isn’t a .338 OBP player. He’s also not a .373 SLG player.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
The problem is this
Let’s assume Guillen is “really” as good of a hitter as his career numbers would indicate: .271/.322 /.440 (.329 wOBA). Combined with his current defense, would such a player add value to a team? Answer is pretty obvious.
I think his power is probably the most overrated skill I can ever remember a baseball player having. He has Aaron Rowand power. It’s been six years since Guillen had more than 25 home runs, and he isn’t getting younger. Combine that with his immobility and his awful plate discipline, and he’s just not good enough to start. He isn’t one of the best 90 outfielders in baseball.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 11, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
But grant..
“Jose’s been through it sure he has some awful nights but we need him so I’m going to stick with him”.
Our “Manager” that will be receiving manager of the year votes.
/headdesk
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“You might be a Giants fan…if you think a .338 OBP is good!”
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 11, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly. If you told me at the beginning of the year the worst player in the lineup would have a .338 OBP I would take it.
And I was always under the impression you want to have a .340 OBP.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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Okay, wake me up when there’s a guy with a 1.000 OBP.
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Opening Day, tomorrow.
Hope you have a nice hibernation.
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Wait, no, he does it in reverse.
“If you are looking at a list of free agents in the offseason, and you think, ‘Hey, this guy would make a perfect eighth outfielder’…you might be a Giants fan.”
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 11, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Eugenio Velez is our spark plug in the leadof spot!
Too bad he only sparks 30.8% of the time.
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.326 OBP is the league average. So, no, .338 is not particularly good, or significantly different from average, in 80 PAs.
Isn’t that Guillen in a nutshell really? Average bat, below average in the field.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 11, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
YES!
I don’t even understand what there is to talk about . . .
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
I’d make a play Nate argument right now.
It sounds better after he wins the game sliding into Eckstein, though.
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Lewis hasn’t been a particularly good player this year either
by kingofthacove on Sep 11, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Guillen’s been worse.
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that doesn’t really say much about Lewis
by kingofthacove on Sep 11, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Lewis has been OK this year.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
"Lewis has been OK this year"
not really
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
You aren’t making a point.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
but the point was just that he’s better than Guillen.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Who cares? Just because he’s better doesn’t mean I want him starting.
Especially someone sucks AND called me a faggot.
by kingofthacove on Sep 11, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
You don’t want a better player than the guy we have starting?
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Seriously
I disapprove of him saying that but my skin isn’t that thin.
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Not if he’s an incremental upgrade (if at all), especially when we have guys who can already probably produce similarly to him, like Nate and Ross. So no, I wouldn’t “go with Lewis.”
by kingofthacove on Sep 11, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Fred Lewis is a Blue Jay right now, not a Giant.
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I have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about. All I said is Fred Lewis sucks, and I wouldn’t want him on our team, let alone playing over Nate or Ross.
by kingofthacove on Sep 11, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
but we’re talking about Lewis over Guillen.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Post 1: “I’ll listen to a play Nate argument right now, but Cody Ross has done nothing.”
Post 2, in reply to post 1: “I’d go with Lewis. Or maybe Bowker.”
There is an implication here.
by kingofthacove on Sep 11, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Somebody said “sit Guillen”.
Somebody else said “not for Ross”.
Somebody else said “I’d rather have Nate”.
Somebody else said “I’d rather have Lewis”.
This is a hypothetical. Why are you comparing Lewis to Ross or Nate, when Lewis is not on the team. The discussion centers around Guillen, not Lewis, Ross, or Nate.
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Nope, I don’t that’s what it says at all. We have Guillen on our team, and if one person says “I’d go with Nate” as my option to start and the next person says “I’d go with Lewis”, it could easily imply they’d go with Lewis over Nate. Especially when you consider the fact his post was in reply to the Nate post and not the original Guillen post, my logic completely makes sense. At least enough that you don’t have to come here with your really annoying snideness.
by kingofthacove on Sep 11, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL wait a second even I was wrong, nobody said they’d rather have Nate in this comment sequence.
But your point hasn’t been to compare Lewis to Nate. You have just been commenting that Lewis is bad. My guess is that you just don’t like him, but he is a shitload better than Guillen is, not “incrementally, if at that”.
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That is exactly my point. When someone says “I’d take Nate [over Guillen, as the option to start RF” (his quote was slightly different but in this context it doesn’t make a difference) and someone replies “I’d take Lewisr,” it seems to imply that they’d have Lewis over Nate.
And Lewis isn’t much better. Lewis has a 0.9 WAR this year, which would probably be lower if he played RF in AT&T, and Guillen has a 0.5 WAR. Even if Lewis is better, they both suck.
by kingofthacove on Sep 11, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Guillen has about 100 more plate appearances as well
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
So Lewis is more than twice as good!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 11, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
And yes, I think a guy alienating a fanbase by calling them fags should count for something when discussing whether we would want that guy on our team. Even if we ignore that, Fred Lewis isn’t a good player, and would probably be an even worse one if he had to play RF here every day. I don’t care if Guillen sucks too; I don’t want Lewis on the team, period.
by kingofthacove on Sep 11, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you offended by his using a slur or by being called a fag?
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 11, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not personally offended, but I think it plays at least a little part in determining that we shouldn’t have him on the team.
by kingofthacove on Sep 11, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Nobody is saying they want to acquire Lewis. Evan said it would have been nice to not lose him. And if he’s never traded, then the “f@gs” comment never happens.
And then we have a better player. Which means we have a better team. Which is a good thing.
So in this case, you don’t want the Giants to have a better team, period.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Yeah, you’re completely ignoring or not processing what I’m saying and going off in completely irrelevant directions, so whatever, I don’t care.
by kingofthacove on Sep 11, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
This team would be better with Lewis on the roster and on the field than they are with Guillen on the roster. Given that fact I don’t really understand any logic that results in Giants fans not wanting to “go with Lewis.”
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
well, that’s cool, and it’s not really what I’m arguing, but if I had the choice, I’d rather have neither, since they both suck.
by kingofthacove on Sep 11, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
But you don’t. Guillen fills a spot on the roster, and if he were gone, Lewis would fill that spot.
So tell me, which would you choose, if you had the choice?
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Who do you think is a better player, Guillen or Lewis?
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I don’t care. Even if this was the argument I was actually involved in, if someone said “I’ll take dog diarrhea” and the next person says I’ll take “horse shit,” I’m not getting into an argument over which one I’d rather have.
by kingofthacove on Sep 11, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Well then there you go. You don’t find any difference between Guillen and Lewis, you think of both of them as fecal matter in your analogies.
So why in the world did you insert yourself into a conversation whose topic is the difference between Lewis and Guillen, specifically to comment on Lewis’s skill level?
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Just to keep ignoring my explanation and going back to this instead of letting it go.
by kingofthacove on Sep 11, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting way to escape answering a difficult question.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
what are you guys even talking about? Lewis doesn’t even play for the giants anymore
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
True.
Sabean is still the GM, though.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I don’t give a shit. You look like a retard by continuing to bring up something that no one is arguing about except yourself.
by kingofthacove on Sep 11, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I was at an As/Marlins game a few years back, pretty wasted and sitting behind the Marlins dugout. We chewed out Cody Ross all game and around the 6th inning coming in from the field he called me and my friends “fucking faggots”. Everyone in our section heard. Ironically enough, he actually hit a game-tying homerun i nthe 8th and gave us a kiss coming back to the dugout. He then proceeded to go on a ridiculous 3-week tear.
We’ve hated him as an inside joke forever. Now, it makes me feel…weird inside.
by InTimmyWeTrust on Sep 12, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
Nothing can stop luck in a ridiculous strike zone. Both teams pitched amazing considering the zone.
It's better to be lucky than good.
by Myemail21479 on Sep 11, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe
Giants have risen to the occasion against opposing aces more than once this season. Latos is pitching deeping into a season than he ever has before – maybe tomorrow is when that starts to hurt him heh.
Nah.
The Padres will probably smack around Lincecum pretty good. It’ll be a weird, demoralizing split. Win big, win close, lose close, lose big.
you are such a pessimistic person.
We’re still one game out, and the Padres play 7 games next week, of which they will win 2, maybe 3, while we play 6 at home vs the Dodgers and MIL
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Padres aren’t hitting, so why would they hit Lincecum hard, especially with the way he’s been pitching lately? Should be another 1-0 game, let’s hope we have the one.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
i hope he has it. i wont be making any gut prediction until after the 1st inning, lol
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
given his past 2 starts, im not worried
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I gotta say, E6D jumped ship pretty quick today. Apparently, we’ve already lost tomorrow’s game, the division, and the wild card. Aw shucks.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I know, seriously.
We will be in sole possession of 1st by the end of next sunday. LA and MIL at home, while SD is COL and STL on the road
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
McCoven in first?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 11, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
You’ve been kind of wrong lately. No more predictions, please.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
if we win tomorrow, I feel really confident about the division. We really have a favorable home to road ratio going down the stretch, compared to the other teams.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
hey, i was only wrong today, but we really did have the game stolen from us. that ump got in everyones heads (was Ford safe at 2nd?)
Honestly I didn’t feel great about the game today, but didn’t want to let you down by saying so. I’ll keep my game-day predictions to myelf
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
No, he wasn’t. Torrealba either planned his throw to bounce into the glove right where Ford’s arm was or he got extraordinarily lucky, but Ford was out.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Logical.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Didn’t you say the Giants were going to sweep the D-Backs, too?
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I don’t think what he says has any impact whatsoever on the result of a baseball game.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
I think I should shut up and leave this board. Everyone seems to take what I say too serious.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
of course I have no impact on the game, lol.
but i do get those gut feelings about how a game will go
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually do think that your prediction cost the Giants the final game of the Dback series. They obviously all read McCovey and got overconfident.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
ah, damn. it’s all my fault.
/has a sad
i dont even think i predicted anything for that game, IIRC
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t why people are taking me seriously. It’s like being at the ball park. Someone says “He’ll get hit here to drive in 2.” That player hits into a DP. People around the person then says “I think you should stop making predictions”
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Some people will take you seriously. Some people won’t.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
well i hope you guys weren’t all taking me too seriously, even though I was on a hot streak for5 games
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
and no, i didnt say we’d sweep them. i said I’d like to, though
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Latos has been untouchable. I don’t think the Giants are the team to bat him around. Lincecum might match him pitch for pitch for a while, but if it turns into the AZ game, Lincecum will lose it fast. Timmy’s pitches seem perfectly suited for dinks and dunks, the San Diego Special. The division, well, the Rockies are right there. And they appear to be in their Rocktober mode. The math just might get in the way.
I feel good about tomorrow. The Padres only had enough pixie dust for one game this series.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Sep 11, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
hawt
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
tell him i said hi.
and to pitch his heart out tomorrow
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Pitcher has very little control of other pitcher. I do think that Timmy is prime to throw down a 16 k performance tomorrow despite all odds.
Note, Adams and Grangerson pitched last two days. In a close game, Giants have bullpen edge. And honestly, they have the power edge too.
I predict 3-1 Giants.
It's better to be lucky than good.
by Myemail21479 on Sep 11, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, at least I chose the right game to go watch. Four touchdowns and a field goal and a defensive shutout in one half is a lot more fun to watch than what just happened…
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I want to see video of Buster and the ump jawing at each other. Also I want to see Eric Karros’ tongue cut out of his head.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 11, 2010 3:56 PM PDT reply actions
Why? He correctly identiified exactly what was going on.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
I warmed to his honesty when he started talking about how Posey was getting jobbed, and how to handle it.
I seriously don’t know how Posey didn’t get tossed. That ’lecture" or whatever the fuck it was Crawford gave Posey between innings was bullshit. Posey had turned back to Bumgarner to get ready for the inning, and Crawford kept running his mouth.
Crawford would appear to be in the West/Cuzzi/Davidson group of terrible umpires that the league somehow is unable to fire. If I were MLB, I’d buy off the umpires union — nothing warms the cockles of a union’s heart like money. And then give all the terrible umps a simple choice: take the golden parachute, or get fired for incompetence and take nothing.
Is this real life?
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
When it was 1-0 in the top 7
I stopped watching. I knew the game was over.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Lukerson, Horse, Fatty
Game.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
i like jazz hands at third
He can pick it.
by ncunningham on Sep 11, 2010 3:59 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I like the .750 OPS better at SS.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
yeah, start the best defensive team, lose 1-0.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
Jose Guillen is on line two
‘2’ starts with ‘T’ just like ‘terrible defense’
yeah, Guillen has lost us countless games with his glove out there in right. Actually Cody Ross DID cost us one.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
Probably every OF misjudges that ball. Broken bats don’t send balls 380 feet.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Funny thing is, if Guillen was out there, he would misjudge it AND catch it.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Nate catches that ball, and if Ross wasn’t here Nate would have been out there. There’s a reason the Marlins let him go for free.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
his salary next year?
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
Pretty much
and the fact that they want to see if Cameron Maybin can play
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
Nate catches that ball? Do you have access to a parallel universe or something?
And maybe the Marlins let him go because they have a low payroll and have a logjam of outfielders. I’m sure no team has ever given away a player for free because of reasons outside their ability.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
The Marlins don’t operate as a normal ballclub.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Nate is far more experienced than the other Giants’ outfielders at ATT Park. Can i put it in writing that he would have caught that ball? Of course not, but I can’t think of a single time I’ve seen him sprint in on a ball hit over his head.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
You're talking about an extremely unusual play
I’d guess a lot of very good outfielders would have come in on that ball initially.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
Cody Ross, Marvin Benard and Fred Lewis.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
And quite possibly Nate Schierholtz
Again, it was an extremely unusual play.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
I was there
and it looked like a broken bat hit that wasn’t going anywhere.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
how many times have you seen a broken bat line drive carry that far to that part of the park?
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
If I've seen it, it's been a damn long time
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
SF Guy wouldn't have caught that ball either
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Sep 11, 2010 5:59 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That’s true. The runs he has given up with his glove are difficult to count. But they are given up nonetheless.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
When he dropped that ball that Billingsley hit
it seemed like it happened at a pretty crucial time.
Plus I’ve seen a number of balls that look like routine flyouts, and he’ll just put his head down and ~sprint? to try and hold the hitter to a single or double
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
No matter what happens, think about this: After tomorrow’s game:
Giants: 12 homes games, 6 road games, only winning teams are the series’ against the Rockies and Padres.
Rockies: 9 home games, 10 road games. Only losing teams are the D-Backs and Dodgers.
Padres: 7 home games, 13 road games, only losing team is the Dodgers.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Padres have a winning record on the road (as do the Giants).
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
What’s their winning record against teams over .500, though?
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
last I saw it was 6 under .500 (including the 9-2 record against the Giants)
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Is winning record vs. teams that have a winning record now or at the time San Diego played them? Dodgers are 70-72 now.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
So?
They’re still at a disadvantage. And I’d be surprised if they do better than .500 in Coors, LA (lol), and St. Louis.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
The Pads are gonna have a hellish week ahead of them on the road, while we cruise with LA and MIL at home
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t get ahead of yourself, the only team the Dodgers will show up for is the Giants.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
did we figure out whos pitching for the bums?
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Kershaw, Billingsley, Lilly
what a coincidence.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
well, the only one we can’t beat is billingsley
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
who knows what will happen? all i know is that SD has it a whole lot rougher than we do next week, and generally from here on out.
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
we dont know if they are skipping his start. probably not, so it’s zito-cain-sanchy. id like it more if they skipped over zito though
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
And a two-game cushion will certainly soften the blow if they have problems. Also, they know they have three games left against a team they have pretty much dominated all year.
if we win tomorrow, they will be rethinking that “dominated all year” b/c we beat them the last 3 of 4 at their home park.
if we lose, it’s still a split, which, if i recall, most of everyone said they would be happy with
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
they have more than half left on the road.
and we play them at Coors, so its in the Giants hands
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
i meant after this weekend theres more on the road- someone mentioned that in this thread
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate when the Giants play at Coors Field. I still remember that home run in 1998 that Nen gave up late in the season.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Good way of looking at it.
But I’d much rather be tied than 2 games back. 2 game swing tomorrow is massive.
No, it isn’t.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Tomorrow is the big one. I wish this series was over today and we left here down one game. It would be a huge letdown to lose that game tomorrow and leave no better than we came in. On the other hand, losing the series would have made it close to impossible to catch them, and we at least avoided that.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
this is how i look at it. could be 6 out, Rockies passed us, season done
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
So, is this where Grant threatens to ban us all unless we have bewbs or make dick jokes?
…Actually, come to think of it, that’s a pretty empty threat on this site.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
/banned
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 11, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a transsexual who comes in my pharmacy with the biggest chest I’ve ever seen. It always gives me the opportunity to repeatedly say something I thought I never would. “Look at the boobs on that guy!”
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
Watching the Giants lose to the Padres 1-0 on a Torrealba homerun is frustrating. Listening to Eric Karros comment on the loss makes it worse. No, Guillen would have been out at home on that play. Probably by 20 feet.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Sep 11, 2010 4:08 PM PDT reply actions
Could have been worse: it could have been Mark “Mumbles” Grace or Tim McCarver (man FOX has horrible announcers).
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Fox baseball coverage is absolute crap! Its almost impossible to watch. I think they were the ones that pioneered the commercials between at bats and live interviews while the game is going on unseen off camera.
Uribe is Mang who cong tru een clush
by Buster-Jangle on Sep 11, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll say this
Giants fans will not mind Buck and McCarver covering them this season. That would mean either NLCS or World Series.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Phillies lose
Mets tried their hardest to blow it
Yorvit has to add insult to injury by throwing out Ford.. Fuck that Giants killer.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
HEX
Yesterday, someone made a remark about Eckstein putting a hex on opposing teams.
I’ve looked at his stats, and can’t understand just what he contributes, or what he does to opposing teams. Little help here.
This cheers me up.

"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
D'awww!
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I WANT ONE!!!
I will name him Buster
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
"Women are all unique and interesting. As such, no real set way of dealing with them is ever correct. You wouldn’t use the same set of numbers on every combination lock you came across." - Lars
by Prussian Creole on Sep 11, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m getting a dog and we’re naming it Posey!
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
I’m so excited it’s probably going to be a German Shepherd so my dad said we have to give it a German name so his full name will be Buster Von Poser or something.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Hahaha, it’s almost like Barold.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
It’ll be Buster Von Poser OR Gerald Von Poser. I’m leaning towards Gerald.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Gerald Von Poser sounds a lot better, imo.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Awwww!
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm going to get one soon!

Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Sep 11, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
/squeal!
border collie, no? i love those!
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
Nate woulda had that.
by MonochromeGarden on Sep 11, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
u know it!
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Sep 13, 2010 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions
If I get a dog, it would be one of these
(if the photo shows up)

Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
OT
Some good news for me. Notre Dame football lost.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
That’s why I say “for me” not Natto or Dr DC or Grant or TheLetter2 or walkoff baltimore chop
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Well I don’t appreciate other people’s happiness unless it adds to mine!
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Dude, you’re going back to SLO next week. DO YOU KNOW HOW HAPPY YOU’LL BE? DO YA?
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Saturdays are cool.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes. Not this Saturday.
Besides, the last 100 days for me have been Saturdays.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
No Friday nights?
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn you.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I simply say Saturday because it’s a weekend. The day during Fridays could imply you might have to do something productive.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
True.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I read this as Notre Dame football lust.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
SFGiants
With 14 strikeouts between Giants-Padres today, Barry Zito will donate $21,000 to Strikeouts For Troops. #SFGiants
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
Uh.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
And how much of your money did you donate?
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Sep 11, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
:(
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
He’s not shitty this year.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 11, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow stay classy
As much as Barry Zito irritates me as a pitcher, that’s a really decent thing for him to do. He could keep his money and not do anything good with it, but the fact that he tries his hardest with Strikeouts for Troops says a lot about him and I respect him as a man.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
He's actually
More or less an average pitcher.
But you seem to want to shit on him without any factual basis, so I won’t get in your way.
$21K to Barry Zito
is like the change you and I find between the cushions in the coach.
Giants fans should feel good about that $21K donation, since it is really indirectly from their pockets.
Zito is an idiot
Noble gesture, but putting up money to Padres pitchers to strike out Giants’ is rather stupid. Why not just double the money for the strikeouts and make it Giants’ pitchers only? Why not do it tomorrow when Timmy is pitching you cheap bastard!
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
not this
Should the consumers or customers of whatever business you’re in feel good every time you make a donation to charity? Barry Zito is rich, but 21 K is still a very significant amount of money that he didnt have to give away.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
this
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
To your first point, yes.
If you are the customer of a business that does a lot to support good charities, I think that you should feel good.
I agree, Zito didn’t have to donate $21K today, but if you really think that is a significant amount of money to him you are being delusional. It is a significant amount to you and I, but to Zito, not so much. It is all relative, it really is.
Also, think about this. If he really was doing it just for charity and for charity alone, why be so public and open about it? I’m not saying Zito is not a generous guy and he certainly could just keep this money in his pocket, but it is also disingenuous not to acknowledge that there is a bit of image and PR involved in this as well.
The point of being public with it is to encourage other people to also donate to the troops.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
And I don't think the 21k is the extent of Zito's charitable endeavors
I guess we’ll have to let the holier than thou crowd let us know exactly how much Zito should be donating to charity.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
I apologize
In all sincerity any donation to a worthy charity should be praised.
I’d like to draw the conversation back to Madison Bumgarner a bit. That has been a very pleasant surprise of a call-up. I don’t think many of us knew what to think about him given his minor league performance this year, but he pitched so, so well today and I really like him in a Giants’ uniform. I am glad that they held on to him at the deadline.
he was drafted over Heyward, so he better be good, lol
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
You were here then
Someone here says the Giants should have taken Heyward and keeps reminding us of it at times.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
er weren't
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
we talked about this yesterday is why i brought it up. i didnt know that before yesterday for some reason
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Madbum Rocks!
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
+109 this
Mad Bum was the highlight of today’s game. Only 70-something pitches through 7 complete innings, with one mistake (stupid bloop homerun). Not a bad 5th starter to have around at all.
Adopted: David B. Flemming
I'm in this line
also, loss today did not bother me much. Once the split was locked in, I was very happy. Now hopeful for a flukey win against Lactose, but this all sets up for a fun couple of weeks with a big finish.
The velocity was there again today. That was nice.
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Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Sep 11, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Posey shouldn't have been "havin' that"
There was a perfect opportunity for Posey to get “crossed up” on a well placed fastball to the Umps nads.
Holy shit
That’s spectacularly awful.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I still have no idea how to read those.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 11, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
didn’t work
In the end, we all lose. Except some people.
by rain.TheMist. on Sep 11, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Red means “in combat.”
Green means “disengaged.”
Squares are Borg cubes.
Triangles are Federation Starships.
The black square indicates the area of Wolf 359.
by Every6thDay on Sep 11, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
But there was only one Borg cube at Wolf 359.
YOUR JOKE MAKES NO LOGICAL SENSE
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
by groug on Sep 11, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
THERE COULD BE ANOTHER ATTACK AND THIS COULD BE A SIMULATION FROM BORG TACTICAL ANALYSIS.
by Every6thDay on Sep 11, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
There is no spoon.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 11, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
There is no asshole.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 11, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Red = strikes
Green = balls
Not sure about triangles and squares, maybe swinging and looking?
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Trianges = Giants
Squares = Padres
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
This made me LOL
But seriously I was so pissed watching on my phone, Bum was getting squeezed on some nice pitches and there were some way out of the zone that I though “WTF he swang at that?” only to see those were called strikes.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Supposedly the umpire was lecturing Posey or something too. I missed it as I was checking football games, but I saw everyone talking about it.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
I couldn’t tell cause I was just watching gameday on my phone so I have no idea what happened.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Yeah I’m not sure exactly what the deal was, all I know is that this umpiring crew is absolute shit. It only gets better tomorrow with Cuzzi.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
I think the worst crew is West and Angel Hernandez…I didn’t know there could be that much umpiring fail in one crew.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Ironically enough
From Baggs:
I used to think the Joe West/Angel Hernandez crew was the worst in the major leagues. No longer.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Baggs and I are on the same wavelength. Both of them acted like assholes when facing criticism, especially with Cuzzi’s blown call he was really a jerk about it. I hate that
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
According to Baggs, the Mets were pissed at Cuzzi’s attitude that game.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I believe it was Barajas that made the comments about it.
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Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Sep 11, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Or maybe Blanco only said after the game that Ishi was safe
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
after the game the catcher said it was “a rediculous call. he was safe by a mile” or something like that. just think, had that not been fucked for us, we’d be tied for 1st right now
by giant4life83 on Sep 12, 2010 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think you are right
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Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Sep 12, 2010 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions
They're all looking
Otherwise, the call is pretty easy to guess.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Hmmm..
It looks like when your hunting in Oregon Trail…
Unfortunately Bumgarner shot 200lbs of food but the party died of dysentery on the way back to the dugout…
Wow....
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
has gotten stronger down the stretch. by my count he threw 37 fastballs between 93-95, and today was probably the first time he’s maintained his velocity deep into the game
by TimLaser and MattyC on Sep 11, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
What the heck, Bruno Schultz?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
I mean, being florid is great and all, but fuck.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 11, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s really weird.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 11, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was my favorite plot line in the whole show honestly.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
matlatos.com? This guy has his own website or is a fans website?
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Latos
looks like an amalgam of all the asshole characters in the oeuvre of John Hughes.
Hitting 74 on the radar gun but hitting my spots.
by VidaWantsYourCar on Sep 11, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
A face only a fist could love.
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
by Tim LinCyYoung on Sep 12, 2010 2:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Go Diamondbacks!
"For all you first-basemen who played first your whole life, that's where Buster plays on his OFF days" - Kuiper
Ubaldo is not very good right?
"For all you first-basemen who played first your whole life, that's where Buster plays on his OFF days" - Kuiper
I know it's for 9/11
But I hate the white caps every team is wearing today.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
i hate the day games. if they had played tonight, we might have won (HR doesn’t go out)
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
We also could have enjoyed being in first place a few more hours.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Sep 12, 2010 7:07 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I want to blame the horrible strikezone
But sometimes the Giants are bad at hitting and sometimes Yorvit Torrealba hits opposite field home runs
I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz
The Giants can only blame the Giants for this loss. They need to actually get hits and score runs when they get those hits. Guillen is tough to watch on the basepaths, he looks like someone running on the beach – trying and trying to motor but getting nowhere fast.
I know it was early, but a pinch runner in that situation might have been a great call – knowing how low scoring these two teams have been against each other.
finally, someone agrees with me. i was thinking that would be the opportune time for Nate, b/c we werent gonna get many (if any more) opportunites to score and you need the RF defense. Alas, Bork is too stupid to see that
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's what bork see's
Jose guillen: 16 home runs and 62 RBI’s with the kansas city royals
Here’s what bork thinks
Wow good thing we now have jose he’s been through it and we score more runs with him in the line up because he’s a slugger. If this guys not in the line up we’re screwed offensively I’m gonna get him in there as much as possible.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
it’s so sad. esp b/c right after he DIDNT pinch run with Nate, Uribe got a hit that anyone else scores on. There’s a huge debate up in the thread, that proves Guillen is a -2 WAR over the course of a season, even with his numbers. To be that bad, his defense must be absolutely horrible (which we’ve found out the hard way)
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Bork bork
“I was keeping jose in the game due to his power and run producing abilities and strong arm in right”.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
1. You don’t pinch run in the 2nd. Whether Guillen belongs in the lineup is an entirely different issue.
2. Guillen isn’t a -2 WAR player, that was simply if his performance with the Giants was extrapolated for a full season which is a bad idea to do.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Why wouldn’t you PR in the 2nd? nobody is hitting Stauffer, Guillen gets a double, you just know he’s NOT gonna get another hit all day (cause let’s face it, its Guillen), and the game will be low-scoring, so you need the defense.
As for him not being a -2 WAR player, i just looked back up, and you’re right. There was so much debate, didnt read it all, and all I saw was “-2 WAR”
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
If you are going to take someone out in the 2nd inning, he probably shouldn’t be starting in the first place. The point of pinch running is only after you’ve presumably got as much offensive juice squeezed out of his bat. If Bochy thinks Guillen is a start worthy player, that logic certainly will not lead him to think pinch-running him in the 2nd is a good idea.
personally, i think we squeezed all the offensive juice out of his bat with that double (what turned out to be a correct assumption) and at that point, should have PR to take the lead and (even though 1-0) hold it.
Perhaps if Bum gets staked to the 1-0 lead, he doesn’t give up the HR. I don’t really believe that, probably would have given it up anyway, but this is the alt reality i choose to live in for tonight.
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
But in Bochy’s mind, Guillen still has 3 potential more spots to come up and potentially do some damage. Maybe Guillen could have hit a home run his 2nd at bat. Maybe if you PR, Stauffer pitches Uribe differently due to the runner and Uribe never hits a single. It’s stupid to make these kind of what if arguments.
I don’t know why I’m even still arguing this point, it’s one giant hypothetical that would never happen and it’s one made with 100% hindsight. I think it’s because I’m drunk.
"I think it’s because I’m drunk."
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you also know that if there is a single, he wont score from 2nd. what else does it take?
i can blame renteria for not getting him in (but rent has to play b/c you need a SS, with uribe at 3rd), but the fact remains that uribe did his job and got the hit, bork just didnt do his and make sure that if uribe gets a hit, that runner will score. in april, you dont PR in the 2nd. in a giants/pads game in sep with everything on the line, you do whatever it takes, and if feelins are hurt, then thats just the way it is. you have to do what it takes to win
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Pinch running in the second inning is utterly ridiculous. Even Bengie Molina wouldn’t get pulled for a pinch runner in the second inning. The funniest thing is that with one out, Flannery would have probably stopped Nate too. The only way he sends anyone is if he knew they were going to lose 1-0 in advance.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Sep 12, 2010 7:13 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Hard to play a game when the umpire is searching for strikes from the home teams no name starter and calling pitches that the andy pettite wouldn’t even get at home the entire game like the giants are the pirates.
But hey the padres clearly weren’t lucky at all today and are not a fluke what a great game “plan” by them and phil cuzzi’s crew.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Just got back from San Diego
I tried to log in during the game and ask if the strike zone was really wide for Stauffer. Apparently it was. I was one section over from being directly behind home plate and had a pretty good view. The strike zone looked like bullshit. Only took a couple pictures because I has so far away from the game. Here is one of them.

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Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Sep 11, 2010 6:50 PM PDT reply actions
The strikezone as bullshit and Bumgarner was getting squeezed at times
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Stauffer was getting strikes all game that were so insane even roy halladay would be shocked
And of course per usual bumgarner gets squeezed in big moments and treated like he’s doug davis. The zone was extremely biased and unfair but clearly the umpire did nothing to hand the game to the padres on a silver platter.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
when you have a zone like that, and every hitter is immediately in the hole 0-2, forced to protect on pitches 6" off the plate, it handcuffs an entire team for 9 whole innings. Stauffer didn’t even bother throwing the ball over the plate, making it totally unhittable. anything close, the hitter has no idea what to expect since the zone is so fucked, so yeah, he pretty much handed them the game on a platter.
Ive never seen a zone so huge for only one team
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
thats such a great shot of the park, especially that stupid, fucking little perch in the RF corner where terriblabla hit the HR today
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
the strikezone looks like an American flag.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
by oldjacket on Sep 11, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Also, between innings they showed the Blooper highlight reel. They showed the play where Cain threw the ball into the ground that rolled into LF on the fail pickoff play against the Nationals. I spotted him in the dugout and it looked like he was really pleading his case to whoever he was sitting next to. He was pointing and moving his arms around. It was pretty funny
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Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Sep 11, 2010 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I just got back
Beautiful park. By far the 2nd best in California. The fans there are so weak. “Lets go Giants” chants were pretty strong. The padres fans are something similar to a spring training game. I feel like some of them are there just because they don’t have anything better to do. I was sitting down the 1st baseline so I didn’t have a good view of the strikezone, but it really seamed like we were getting shafted. I will post pics sometime soon.
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
I caught a game at Jack Murphy
many years ago, and it seemed as though everyone in the stands was either an old person bitching about the sun, or a college student talking about how they were blowing off finals. The game was just something that was going on in the background while everyone sought either shade or a phone number. Sounds like not a lot has changed in the new venue.
Hitting 74 on the radar gun but hitting my spots.
by VidaWantsYourCar on Sep 11, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
/jim tracy puts ubualdo out for the 7th with 113 pitches
“Try to give me 2 more innings baldy we need to try and get you a win!!!”
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Dbacks are winning 1-0 they pulled Ubaldo already so he won’t get the W.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Shocking
Considering tracy bork style likes to put his pitchers in when they are well into the 100’s in pitches for another inning in a losing cause.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I’m confused hen people say they’re trying to find a cure for cancer. Since there are so many types of cancers, wouldn’t there have to be a whole bunch of cures? Or do all the different types of cancers have the same roots, so one cure will fit all?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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I believe what they’re trying to find a cure for is how cancer happens. Cancer happens when there is a a bad protein that creates abnormal cells. Because there is something wrong with that protein it continues to make abnormal cells which cause tumors and can be malignant. If they can figure out how to stop that problem then they could solve cancer. That’s why cancer is never really “cured” because it goes back to when the cell is being made.
I think.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Well, sure. But different cancer cell lines have different reasons for becoming cancerous, so in each case, the suitable pharmaceutical target differs. Chemo is so toxic to your body because even though theoretically you should be able to hit a target that only cancerous cells have, you often hit the healthy cells as well.
As far as I know, cancer can be completely cured, but you need to pretty much kill all the cancerous cells. Surgery of a non-metastasized tumor would do that, for example.
Yeah but with cancer though, the reason that those abnormal cells are made is because there is something wrong when the cell is made and there is no way, at this point in time, to be able to fix what is wrong with the protein. You can go into remission but the bottom line is the abnormal protein. People can be in remission for years but the protein isn’t fixed. Eliminating all the cancerous cells will stall it but if theres a problem with cell reproduction there isn’t much you can do.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
when the cell is made and there is no way
This statement’s a bit ambiguous. I assume you don’t mean that cancer has nothing to do with the environment? Also, I wasn’t sure if chemo can completely kill a tumor, but I’m willing to bet surgery on a non-metastasized tumor would get all the cancerous cells (see: breast cancer survivors) if the problem is confined to one particular cell line.
Yes the environment has a lot to do with cancer. Though you can use chemotherapy or sugery to remove a tumor even if you remove 99% of the cancerous cells there is still that 1% of cancerous cells that can continue to reproduce and form another tumor. I’m not saying that there is one specific cause of cancer, what I’m saying is that cancer occurs because of some type of mutation or error within the cell that can send out signals to reproduce itself multiple times. An abnormal cell will reproduce another abnormal cell. I’m sayin that in a box, the problem with curing cancer, is that there is not anything we can do to fix that one cell that has that error.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Basically
In a nutshell cancer is the abnormal growth of cells where there is something wrong inside the cell that causes some type of error. There is a lot that goes into developing cancer. Smoking makes you more prone because the environment your cells are in make it more difficult to fight off that error or “override” it in a sense. There are broad reasons why cancer happens including environmental factors but those influence why the bad cell is able to override the good cells.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
there are a ton of different types of cancers, but they are all cancers, simply put. you can get cut with a knife (or your gf can do it :/ ) all over your body, but its still a cut, just in a different place.
same with cancer. cancer cells are the problem, but they can strike anywhere. find a cure for the cancer cell, find a cure for cancer
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions
same with cancer. cancer cells are the problem, but they can strike anywhere. find a cure for the cancer cell, find a cure for cancer
Which really assumes that all cancer cells have the same ultimate cause, which as far as I know is not true.
I really don’t know that much about it. I was under the assumption that all cancer cells havethe same ultimate cause, but multiply differently depending on the part of the body. My mom had cancer but survived it and is fine now, on another note. I was 10 at the time and didn’t really grasp the severity of it.
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
What bothers me most about this incident is that Crawford isn’t some headstrong kid umpire who just came up from the Sally League. He’s a 34-year major league veteran and a decorated crew chief. He’s the son of a longtime umpire, for crying out loud. His father, Henry "Shag" Crawford, worked the National League from 1956-75.
i bet these good ol boy types are more likely to be the arrogant douches than the young ones
by kingofthacove on Sep 11, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes. Yes they are.
Even some of the so-called “good-guys” tend to be pretty self-important. (Jim Joyce and Eddie Montague, Jr. whose old man was a Giants scout btw, are a couple of exceptions)
Its part of a pseudo-celebrity status they acquire simply by being part of the game. Umpires can be to baseball, what IRS auditors are to folks who actually work for a living. Arrogant and condescending. Its the basic nature of an umpire.
Those that can, play, those that cannot, umpire…or buy teams
by Roy Hobbs Jr. on Sep 12, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
And of course there's no umpire taking the bat out of their hands
Funny how this routinely happens to the giants like we are some sort of pathetic scrubby team that no umpire respects or acknowledges as a contender.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
there’s 0% chance the rockies lose
it just won’t happen
by kingofthacove on Sep 11, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s pretty amazing that an Ubaldo Jimenez v Rodrigo Lopez matchup is tied in the 7th inning.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
im starting to get in this line, DEPENDING on what happens tomorrow. last time we faced latos, we ended up winning, if thats any consolation.
the rockies need to back off, id rather face a more uphill battle with one team than try to slug out the remainder with two teams.
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
especially when you consider that SD plays STL on the road while we play MIL at home.
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
after the COL/SD series Mon-Wed, that is
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know about you guys but I sure would love to just stick it to Fucking Puke Bitch Cunt Face Mat Latos tomorrow. I mean like 4IP, 10H, 5\6R, 2BB and walk out of SD with our heads held up high.
Oh, and have Timmy shut ’em down too. That would get them scared. Latos has put together a 15-straight quality start streak, eventually that has to be broken. No one is THAT good for THAT long.
Uh. Okay, then.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Alright
I hate the C word though it makes me gag every time someone says it.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
sounds like a type of yummy juicy melon, to me
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Sep 11, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a friend who was born in England, and she can’t understand why Americans find the word so repulsive.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
It’s less of a charged word in the UK, from what I can tell, especially given that they have slang words to refer to aforesaid slang word.
I must say, though, that I am always entertained by their pronunciation of the t-word.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
"less of a charged word"
is an understatement.
It’s fun to use ‘bloody’ around a real Englishperson. That’s more charged than it is here, tho it is a Britticism from our POV.
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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I’m actually in a good mood right now… after writing all that.
I just needed to let off all the steam, frustrating day to be a giants fan.
sorry if i repulsed anyone with that C word, I know women esp hate that word.
but yknow, it is just a game, but I (as I’m sure you all sometimes do too) let it get to me too much.
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Huston Street was receiving quite a Crawfordish strike zone
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Sep 11, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
That strike zone wasn't even close to as bad as crawfords
The padres pitchers were getting pitches a foot out of the zone where as streets were just 6 inches at work off the plate LOL UMPIRES.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Fuckin’ Rockies. Fuck them.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
And maybe the Nats.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
Fuck the Cubs. If they ever manage to win a World Series, be very afraid: the obnoxiousness will far surpass what the Red Sox fans have inflicted on baseball.
Hitting 74 on the radar gun but hitting my spots.
by VidaWantsYourCar on Sep 11, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Won't happen
Ron santos curse is still in full effect for at least another 20 years and then the ryan sandberg curse starts the moment he passes away.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 11, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
What channel does David B. call the Stanford game?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Sep 11, 2010 8:42 PM PDT reply actions
I’m streaming that channel on ooTunes and he isn’t there. It’s two other guys
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Sep 11, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Seems like a slow night here.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 8:56 PM PDT reply actions
I just bought a 6 pack of Stone IPA. Yum!
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Sep 11, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Eck is a non-issue
When the Cubs played the Pirates, Cub fans hated Freddie Sanchez because he did some serious damage when the two teams played. When the Cubs came to Houston, the Astros hated to see Fontenot in the lineup, because he frequently managed to find the fences in Minute Maid Park, and dozens of Fonteneaux drove the few hours to see him play. Now that I am following the Giants, I see that you can’t stand David Eckstein, but I can’t figure out why, as he seems very inconsequential, and does little damage to anyone. I expected his OBP, and everything else to be higher than they are. Has he done much damage?
Holy shit you guys
Stop making me posting that picture of Eckstein holding the trophy. I swear I will.
Edelweiss is a Cubs fan.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
He's not the first person to wonder out loud why we hate Eckstein
Seems like every day someone else asks. Then I have to post the picture, and then people get mad.
She
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Also
You only post 2002 pictures in response to people denying that the WS happened. Not fans from other teams not remembering every small detail of it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Just use them wisely
Posting them in response to a Cubs fan isn’t going to have the intended effect.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
If it's a cubs fan asking why Eckstein is disliked
I feel it’s a valid response. Picture, thousand words, et cetera.
He looks like a midget.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I say this as a man of 5'7"
who has the same birthday as Bilbo and Frodo Baggins.
The man is a freakin’ hobbit.
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Only one inch shorter than Mike Fontenot
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
who?
and are these the same tape measures that put Timmy at 5’10"?
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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Both Yahoo Sports and ESPN has him at 5’8". They have Tim at 5’11"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I think they both get the “These are professional athletes. No one will believe they are that short. But we can’t lie too much. Three inches.” height bonus
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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Bonds looks like he has his hand up his ass and is working him like a puppet.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Sep 12, 2010 7:19 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
he scored the go-ahead run in game 7 of a certain world series.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
OT:
I got off work and I thought I’d be nice and pick up a pizza for my mom before I went home. So I went to drop it off and my step-dad wasn’t home so she thought an intruder was in her house, when I walked in front of her she let out a blood curdling scream and ran upstairs.
That minute and 20 seconds was a lot more exciting then our ball game :(
I hate the Dodgers, Patriots, Dolphins, and terroirsts
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Sep 11, 2010 9:20 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah I was there. Yeah it sucked. Petco is pretty nice. All 7 Padre fans are dickheads. Fuck the Padres
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Sep 11, 2010 9:20 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
OT: halo reach
Never played halo. Should i pick this up or should i play through the other 3 first which i dont really want to do.
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Sep 11, 2010 9:34 PM PDT reply actions
Halo is so massively overrated...I just prefer to ignore the whole series
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Sep 11, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
You're a hater and you are going to hate
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Sep 11, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
i felt that way too but I need something to feel better about owning a 360 now that mass effect has jumped ship
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Sep 11, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Halo is dogshit for nongamers who don't know what a good FPS is
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
RTS > FPS
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I’m terrible at RTS and FPS games. I’d just as soon stick to tactical RPGs.
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I got into RTS's because I needed a break from FPS's
Now I don’t really have time to play, but I find that I can play a little bit of an RTS (usually just one game) and then drop it more easily than an FPS (which, if I pick it up for a little bit, will usually end with me playing until 2 or 3 in the morning).
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
dude my friends wouldnt even let me play Halo with them because i dont play video games, and hence am no good, and will “screw up their account” by dying too many times.
by giant4life83 on Sep 12, 2010 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Your friends don't know shit about games
Protip: A FPS that isn’t on a computer is automatically subpar.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
this was back in like 2005 when i think it was the first Halo, they wouldn’t let me play. They were really good, total gamers (in the video game sense)
by giant4life83 on Sep 12, 2010 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions
No, they weren't
If you want a good summary of Halo, here.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
I’m in this line. Favorite RTS’s? I’ve been looking for a new one. For me it was Warcraft 3 and Company of Heroes. Always wondered about Warhammer.
Starcraft: Brood War
Once you go there, you’ll never go back to another RTS. And you’ll see how shitty they made the gameplay in SC 2
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I sense torture tomorrow
So I think I’ll watch 49ers-Seahawks instead.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
are you kidding me? alex smith invented torture while he was in utah
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Sep 11, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not expecting much from the 49ers. I think they won’t be as good as people think they will be. The Giants are one game out. They have more to torture me with.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
You are going to be really surprised by the niners then
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Sep 11, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
bold prediction
Niners: 12-4
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divisional opponents in massive disarray/rebuilding. Fairly easy schedule overall. Alex Smith has same OC for two years.
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Alex Smith still sucks.
His stats remain horrible.
REPLY TO DONUT
by GovernorStephCurry on Sep 12, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Except they were totally not terrible last season. They were really empirically average.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
FUCK AND YES BABY!!!
AHH I CAN’T WAIT TO WATCH THEM AGAIN AHHHHHH
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Sep 11, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Highest paid TE in NFL history.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
And that means that hockey is just around the corner too
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Only 8 more months until the Sharks choke.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
FUCK YOU
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
SHHHHH
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
BOOOOOOOO
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
Nate woulda had that.
by MonochromeGarden on Sep 11, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Go San Jose Earthquakes!
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
So I went to my highschool reunion today
and ran into Marcello there.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
awkward
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I had no idea he was so tall
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Apparently no one else in my class did either
Every single one of them asked me if I’d grown since high school. Guess I have.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Actually, it wasn't that awkward
Unless I completely misread our interaction. Crazy small world. Good seeing you in real life jct.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
So you didn’t know you knew someone on McCoven for real.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
No, we were 5 years apart and never overlapped.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Yeah unlike Burrell and Huff, where I ended and where he started never overlapped.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Watching Anchorman:
more fun than this game.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Drink it in
it always goes down smooth
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Sep 11, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
You do know you don’t have to censor yourself on McCoven.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Tits McGee is on assignment
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I’m Tits- I’m Ron Burgundy.
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
Nate woulda had that.
by MonochromeGarden on Sep 11, 2010 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: Chris Perez
He’s Fucking in, You’re Fucking Out!

Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Sep 11, 2010 10:21 PM PDT reply actions
I know there are folks from UCLA so...
LOL UCLA!!! Unfortunately, no LOL USC!!
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
WHOO STANFORD
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
YAY
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Syracuse!
Terrible at football. :(
I hate the Dodgers, Patriots, Dolphins, and terroirsts
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Sep 11, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
A school that used an ex-Duke basketball player at QB last year.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Do you gotta remind me? :(
I hate the Dodgers, Patriots, Dolphins, and terroirsts
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Sep 11, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
future Pac 12 opponent.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
That was a fun game to watch from Strawberry Canyon.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Oh man I am stoked for the wolf pack vs Cal next week
I love Kaepernick. He’s an awesome dude
I hate the Dodgers, Patriots, Dolphins, and terroirsts
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Sep 11, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
At least the San Jose Giants won?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 11, 2010 11:15 PM PDT reply actions
I heard it was a good game.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
It was awesome. Fitzgerald looked really solid and they actually hit the ball. Jose Casilla looks like he could dominate. Fun night at the yard. I had to run down to the dugout to grab Wendell Fairley for a quote, then run up to the press box to grab Fitzgerald for a quote. I get to do it all over again tomorrow too!
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 11, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice. Jose Casilla is Santiago’s brother, right?
And it truly sounds like you’ve got an awesome job there.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Si, they’re related. I didn’t know that until someone pointed it out to me.
It is a pretty kick-ass job. It’s a lot of hard work and tedium at times, but there’s nothing better than writing about baseball.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 11, 2010 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting.
That’s very cool you get to do that. I wish I had the mindset to go into journalism.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 11, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Hah, I wish. I realized that there is no way at all I could be a journalist, or at least study journalism.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 12, 2010 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions
be a journalist, fine
study journalism, silly
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I like making up stories too much to be a journalist.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 12, 2010 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
lol that NY Times guy
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I could make a New York Times joke here but I won’t.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
LOL
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 12, 2010 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions
you couldn’t remember his name either
jason something?
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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I think he’s some kind of a life coach or motivational speaker or somethin like that
by giant4life83 on Sep 12, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
yep, he’s a “mental health” life coach nowadays
by giant4life83 on Sep 12, 2010 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions
You could be like that guy from "Shattered Glass"
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
I have too much morals to do that, sadly.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 12, 2010 1:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I took journalism in HS to improve my college app
That class was boring
Buster Posey>
"Screw it, Redbull time"-Brian Wilson
LOL U
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 12, 2010 2:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, my son is brother’s with Santiago.
So very proud.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The player who won, I know the guy who is hosting him.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Fitzgerald?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 11, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Fitzbuster
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Poguero
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 11, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. They guy has season tickets a row in front. He told me early in the year he was hosting him.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Awesome. They have such a strong network of host families there. I love it.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 11, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m sure phil cuzzi is already thinking of ways he can fuck the giants over and act insanely rude when questioned.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
YAWN
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
My bad bro
This crew isn’t biased at all and crawford was just calling it as he saw it just like cuzzi against the mets on july 18th. After all it’s tim stauffer so he’s gonna get some calls like that it’s not like we’re in a race or anything so it doesn’t matter just gotta tip your cap to him and the stellar play of the crew I mean padres.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 11, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s not that. It’s you keep harping on it over and over and over again.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
it’s hard to let go sometimes
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Sep 11, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I made a few comments earlier so I guess it is a dead horse now
It’s just not fair that as giants fans we can count 10 losses on our hands this year thanks to the 10th man behind the plate clearly having a double standard. Sorry to constantly bitch about it I just hate seeing the giants get completely fucked and other contending teams never having to deal with this pirates like treatment.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 11, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
If you follow every team, they all have losses that the umps screwed up (including the Yankees).
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
While I'm sure there's been one or two cases with this yankees this year
No contending team can even come close to the type of disrespect and down right spit in your face treatment the giants received from umpires this year especially in big games.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions
You don’t know that other teams aren’t getting jobbed. Your perspective is unique because you are, I am assuming, closely following the Giants. If you knew as much about every game as you do about Giants games, you’d see that umpire error happens all the time. Just look at the 2009 playoffs.
It’s possible that we’ve been especially unlucky this year, but to say that it’s not happening to other contending teams is… well, we’ll go with poorly informed on your part.
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Twins-Yankees one was BIG. I think it was Tim McClelland.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
It’s all run together for me.
Twins was the Minnesota fair ball that was called foul? Or was it a Yankees foul ball that was called fair?
And then there was the sac fly that was contentious about whether the runner left early… And the double play by the catcher at third base with both runners standing around with their thumbs up their asses. Were those both the Angels series?
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Twins fair ball called foul
I believe joe mauer was up with runners on and a hit that would have put the twins ahead late but the umpire “made a mistake”.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I wish it were tomorrow already
Today wasn’t great. Tomorrow will be better.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Sep 11, 2010 11:55 PM PDT reply actions
Niners better show up
Or it could be an extremely long day of liver damage and face palming.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 11, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
The Niners are going to romp. Seattle keeps it close with trickery and illusion but take the 49ers to beat the points.
49ers will have to win it on the ground. Alex Smith will take them nowhere.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Yeah
Hopefully he can stay out of the interception column tomorrow /shudders.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
If I say what I want to say about Smith, both Grant and howie will be ban me.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
There's a lot of alexandria smith faithful on here
And while I like the kid and he’d fit great in my IT department at work I’m not in the ralph boat to say the least.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll put it here, first...
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Lincecum no hit the Padres. He had nasty stuff in his last outing and the Padres can’t hit ANYONE the Giants are throwing. Lincecum, 1st career no-hotter, 9/12/2010.
Go Giants!!
Oh great. A 1-0, no-hit loss.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Lovely
And the only run scoring on a david eckstein baltimore chop groundout?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
That or an error on Jose Guillen that Scott Hairston hit or both
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
/guillen misplays a hairston pop up
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
no-hotter
he ain’t bad looking.
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
Nate woulda had that.
by MonochromeGarden on Sep 12, 2010 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL, I didn’t even notice that.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 12, 2010 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Fuck you San Diego!
"For all you first-basemen who played first your whole life, that's where Buster plays on his OFF days" - Kuiper
If you’re a long time Giants fan, there is no such thing as optimism.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Not to mention faith in your manager or front office.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Bochy can suck a nut. I swear the guy couldn’t concoct a logical thought if he tried. That being said, at some point I think the pride of the individual players will take over and Lince, Buster, Huff, Jazzy and the rest of them seem to ME like guys who take pride in winning. I trust them, I hate Bochy.
How can you hate bruce bochy?
If it weren’t for him going hardcore at brian sabean to acquire jose guillen and starting his big bat in right everyday we’d surely be scoring way less runs and be way out of it!!!!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions
lol
first 420 chasm
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
He's been there bro.
He really has, look at that baseball card the RBI’s and dingerz shoot right off the page and scream “POWER HITTING RUN PRODUCING MACHINE!”.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions
/puts gun in mouth, cocks it
DONT SAY ANOTHER WORD
by giant4life83 on Sep 12, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
ive been drinking cheap whiskey all night…..feeling really good
"For all you first-basemen who played first your whole life, that's where Buster plays on his OFF days" - Kuiper
drink bulliet
it’s better
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
i had no choice, it was random bottom shelf whiskey at a festival i was at…i wooulhd have had makers or Red Breast
"For all you first-basemen who played first your whole life, that's where Buster plays on his OFF days" - Kuiper
have you had Penderyn?
welsh whiskey
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
i have not. I try to explore but Im usually limited to whats around…although, now that im finally making some money i think my parameters will expand
"For all you first-basemen who played first your whole life, that's where Buster plays on his OFF days" - Kuiper
my brother brought some back from the UK.
It’s pure delight.
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I hate you
Sounds like I’m going to the liquor store to stock up for tomorrow preemptively after reading that.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
heh
you going to a liquor store: me thinking I need to smoke more pot
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Well I could use some dank
But I’ll just save that for tomorrow because I don’t feel like driving out of the boondocks to town.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m right with you on the Jameson. Excellent choice.
by GrooveGiant on Sep 12, 2010 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m thinking MadBum is our 3rd best starter. He’s been fantastic lately.
Today: 7.0 IP 3 H 1 ER 4 K 0 BB on only 78 pitches.
It’s so great not having any real holes in our rotation.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 12, 2010 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions
No more wellemeyer or (insert random shitty 5+++ era starter) experiment
Is extremely calming on the nerves.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions
this kid is something special. to waltz into SF in July?, right into a pennant race and perform like this, the kid is built to be a winner.
by giant4life83 on Sep 12, 2010 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions
funny about MadBum
due to the schedule, he’s pitched 6 games at home, 9 on the road.
even more impressive for the kid
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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Not to mention he's faced the farthest thing from "shitty offensive teams"
Making your debut against boston at home and then in colorado the next one and going innings of 4 run ball (3 earned) in each is straight up savage to put it lightly.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
He hasn’t won at home, either. Didn’t pitch bad but hasn’t won at home in a quirk.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
eh, it’ll just make his first home win to clinch the NL West in front of the Padres on the last day of the season that much better :)
i hope we have a 3 game lead going into that series
by giant4life83 on Sep 12, 2010 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions
/Shift-A
Today kinda sucked. Sorry, jporny, but screw Stanford.
Bright side: I got a pair of Zito-socks!!!
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
WHAT. ZITO SOCKS. HOW.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 12, 2010 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Dugout store :D
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
Hm. I might have to take a trip to San Francisco tomorrow.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 12, 2010 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Warning: The large is frickin’ huge and there aren’t many mediums.
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
Shit. I may as well just wait until I go to a game.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 12, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably a good move.
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
But it takes away my reason to procrastinate. Hm.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 12, 2010 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Who needs a reason to procrastinate?
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
I do, apparently.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 12, 2010 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL U
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
BOOOO.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 12, 2010 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m feelin good ’bout tomorrow. Remember when Ubaldo had a .90 ERA, getting better and better with each start, then we came into COL and blew him up for 9 runs in a couple innings?
mat baldo
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
who names their kid Mat with only one t? makes me think of a doorMAT
by giant4life83 on Sep 12, 2010 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions
/travis ishikawa pinch hit go ahead grand slam in the 7th
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions
bold
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Not a prediction
We know for a fact that ishikawa will not be seen.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
i think fontenot is a guy who should play more. he always seems to come up with the hit when needed
by giant4life83 on Sep 12, 2010 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I recall his defense in the philadelphia series being brutality
But any giant is cool with me now that jose guillen is on the team even blowand to a small extent.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions
PH role for fontenot, spot starts… i just think he should be used more than he is.
by giant4life83 on Sep 12, 2010 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
He should play in this series
Our midget VS their midget.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
NO!
I want a short man vs short man battle.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
5’8 and under only
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
ugh
Why are you depriving me of a Fontenot vs Eckstein who-can-be-the-bigger-pest -to-the-opposing-team match.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Stairs?
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 12, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed
who has no arms and no legs and lays in front of a door?
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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don’t forget to wipe your feet on the doorMAT tomorrow!!
by giant4life83 on Sep 12, 2010 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions
OT: SNL
Re-run of SNL with Peyton Manning right now. Probably my favorite of the athlete hosts. If the Giants won the WS, I think Timmy would actually be a terrific host.
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
Nate woulda had that.
by MonochromeGarden on Sep 12, 2010 12:25 AM PDT reply actions
As if anyone in New York would care about a team in San Francisco (I almost said West coast but they would get Kobe).
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
They'd have eli manning on if the giants won the WS
“Aren’t you on the giants!??!?!?!”
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions
“There’s a team called the Giants in BASEBALL?!?!?”
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
Nate woulda had that.
by MonochromeGarden on Sep 12, 2010 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions
The media likes who ever wins, doesn’t matter where they’re from. Timmy’s already a superstar in the sport.
Not like it’ll happen anyway. But think of the possibilities!
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
Nate woulda had that.
by MonochromeGarden on Sep 12, 2010 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions
The dude is sponsored by red bull
He’s basically viewed as jesus by all casual baseball fans especially them teenagers who love them some sean white.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions
oh, so this reminds me- right after the giants game today, they cut over to the mets/phils game, i was still thinking about the hard loss moments before, and i had a massive deja vu right as david wright was setting for the pitch, except it lasted for like 5 seconds, all the way thru him hitting the ball up the middle. it wasnt like the usual millisecond deju vu, the “ive seen that before” type. with my eyes glued to the tv, i was watching, but my mind wasnt registering instead, it felt like i was shooting through time (best way i could describe it).
and no, im not on drugs, lol. hadnt even had a drink yet either.
I’m being totally serious right now. I only have a deja vu once a month or less, but have NEVER had one like I had today- it seemed like it lasted 5min, then in an instant, gone.
I have no idea what to make of any of this.
deja vu always involves the sense of a recollection, but I got it while watching a live event (not like looking at a sign and getting it).
Totally wierd
by giant4life83 on Sep 12, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Funny colors man
Seriously this is some crazy shit.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions
it was a total “out of mind, out of body” experience. just nuts.
ive never really ever done drugs before (besides smoke weed in HS). i know some people who have done a ton of drugs sometimes see things funny, but this was something else ill tell ya.
by giant4life83 on Sep 12, 2010 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I get crazy deja vu all the time
Especially when the giants lead in a one run game against a divisional opponent late in a game.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I get that sometimes and I’ve never done drugs in my life.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
you ever had one that lasted more than a split-second though?
by giant4life83 on Sep 12, 2010 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I see stuff that I thought I saw before.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
ok so its like the “usual” deja vu. the one i had today was super bizzare- it was just like a deja vu, but it wasn’t like i’d seen it before, i dunno cant explain what it felt like. outta this world, though
by giant4life83 on Sep 12, 2010 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions
They promised me flashbacks thoughout my later years,
and dammit I demand them!!!!
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 12, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
would you mind terribly deja vu-ing tomorrow the last time Timmy beat the Padres?
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
Nate woulda had that.
by MonochromeGarden on Sep 12, 2010 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions
i think this is going to be a great week to be a giants fan, ill tell ya that. we’ll be in first by 1-2 this time next week. our schedule > everyone else
by giant4life83 on Sep 12, 2010 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Giants simply can't hit...
Simply pitch any Giant batter a slider that breaks away from them as it crosses the plate and they are an out! These guys are so bad they can’t just take the pitch to the opposite field.
All good yo we got jose guillen we’re scoring more runs since we got him according to our all star manager of the year candidate bruce bochy!!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Giants simply can't hit...
Simply make a perfect pitch and they are an out!
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
OT: sunday night rap (LOLOL)
Is anyone going to watch this trash tomorrow night?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Is that the new Radnich and the other dude show?
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
It’s an extension of the tony bruno with gary radnich giggling in the backround and talking about entertainment tonight topics radio show.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I'd rather watch a test pattern
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
It's supposed to be a "sports rap of the week and weekend"
Except it’s going to be 75% about celebrity entertainment news and gary radnich frothing over tony bruno.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Holy god is Killers terrible
Like, I knew it was going to be, but wow. Ashton, no.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
It was really that bad?
I thought it’d be decent to see once maybe a 3 out of 5 at best but you’re making this sound like 1 star status.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Eh
Didn’t finish it last night, as I fell asleep, but it’s just a meh movie. Nothing going for it at all.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
He and Heigl have zero taste in movies
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
I'd like to have seen some of this after todays robbery
For most of the season, David Ortiz has taken issue with what he perceives to be a wider strike zone being called by umpires. Last night, Ortiz was fuming after being called out on strikes with the tying run on second base to end the game. Athletics closer Andrew Bailey threw a fastball that appeared to catch the outside corner. "The pitch is off the plate. How the (bleep) are you going to hit that?" Ortiz said. "It seems like you can’t take a (bleeping) pitch now. I’m going to work on my right-handed swing now."
I know it’s not professional and the MLB fines you for saying shit like this but I wouldn’t have minded some of this today. I know a lot of you view this as a dead horse but I think it’s right to stand up and lash out when your team has been screwed like the giants were.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Sometimes that’s refreshing. Especially if you’re a vet like Ortiz.
A simple “No comment” carries a lot of weight too. Especially if you’re a rook like Posey.
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
Nate woulda had that.
by MonochromeGarden on Sep 12, 2010 2:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it’d be a REALLY shitty idea for Posey to slam the umpires with one more pivotal game left with the Pads today and Phil “Fuck what actually happened, I thought he made a good effort” Cuzzi behind the plate.
I said this after last years dodger fiasco. There needs to be more umpire accountability. I don’t care how the dude was punish/censured/beheaded. I just want MLB to come out and say: Yes Umpire X blew that call, there will be disciplinary action. I don’t need to know what, when, or how much… I just need to know SOMETHING is being done.
I’m tired of the umpires throwing a hissy fit whenever instant replay is mentioned, but then continuing to call games based on their “interpretations of the rule book.” “He made a good attempt” ?!? Really? Wow…
And I’m sorry the strike zone is the strike zone. Roger Clemens and Clem Kadiddlehopper should have the same application of strike zone rules. If you don’t want instant replay DO A BETTER JOB AT GETTING THE DAMN CALL RIGHT. Because pretty soon, with all the shenanigans somebody’s going to start saying that MLB officiating = NBA officiating.
I’ve said this before too but I really believe, as I was taught in referee [soccer] school: You’ll know if you’ve called a good game, because no one will have noticed that you were even there. If these baseball umps want attention, there are plenty of American Idol format shows that they can appear on. Keep your diva outta my baseball!!!!
This
And I’m glad Posey kept his mouth shut. No good can come of our guys speaking out right now.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Wise beyond his years
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Sep 12, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
He is everything you want in a baseball player
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
IAWTC
I do have to say that MLB umpiring has a long, long way to fall to drop to the level of NBA officiating.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
Well if they get that low I’ll have to quit the MLB like I did the NBA.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
It already has
If you play for the yankees or red sox.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
So I kinda skimmed through the thread and somebody was saying Guillen was a good fit for this team.
Also that he has newly found on-base skills which translates to a monster .338 OBP, what is this guy on?
By all means, please start another Jose Guillen discussion.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Sep 12, 2010 11:06 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Unbelievable.
Rowand cf,
Sanchez 2b,
Huff 1b,
Posey c,
Guillen rf,
Burrell lf,
Sandoval 3b,
Uribe ss,
Lincecum p
Note to Timmy: twenty seven strikeouts would be a good idea.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Sep 12, 2010 11:05 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I really want to know 2 things
1) Does CF have to hit leadoff?
2) what part of 5 XBH in 82 PAs for Guillen gives him the ability to be entrenched in the no 5 spot?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
ok fine, give Rowand a start once every two weeks, but you absolutely cannot put him in the OF with both burrell and guillen at the corners
by kingofthacove on Sep 12, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
They’re facing two lefties in the Dodger series. Start him then.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Sep 12, 2010 11:28 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
LOL
That’s shitty.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
So I wsa reading the Gaslamp Ball game thread for Thursday
They really are terrible people over there. I felt dirty just reading it.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
OT - LOL raier
No D
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
extrabaggs
Big loss for Giants. Andres Torres having appendectomy right now, out at least 10 days.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 12, 2010 11:26 AM PDT reply actions
Pegeuro would get chewed up
Ross is the correct answer.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Cody can play center too.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Sep 12, 2010 11:29 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
oh crap
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
Posey C
Sandoval 1B
Sanchez 2B
Uribe 3B
Renteria SS
Burrell LF
Huff CF
Guillen RF
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Shirly
you’re joking.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 12, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
WHAT?!
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
.
BusterfuckingP
Andres’ Appendix is a jerk. You can’t crap out on us in September! We’re going to put a new, BETTER appendix in him to…. #OHWAIT
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
It's ok everyone
Cuzzi is behind the plate today.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Today

Kevin Mitchell has a black belt in keeping it real.
by kbsofaraway08 on Sep 12, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
BELT 4 EDMONDZ!!!!!
Git ’er dun Sabez!!!!
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Sep 12, 2010 11:33 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Bochy says Giants will discuss leadoff alternatives. Torres surgery will be laproscopic (thru navel), which is less invasive.
Velez says hi
Chasm, right?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I am actually counting on it.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
This sucks so much.
I want to be optimistic and think that for 10 days Rowand can produce at least adequately.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Sanchez 2B
Posey C
Huff 1B
Burrell LF
Uribe SS
Sandoval 3B
Ross CF
Nate RF
sanchez isn’t optimal, but given the alternatives…
by kingofthacove on Sep 12, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
So with Torres out pretty much the rest of the season
Out playoff hopes take a significant shot.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Well, he's been off the past few weeks.
It’s definitely a big loss but he’s been struggling, so maybe someone else will step up in these 2 weeks; that’s what playoff baseball is all about. Maybe Rowand is rejuvenated?
Sigh.
by giants92388 on Sep 12, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
True, at the plate
But he’s probably also made at least a couple of catches that Rowand wouldn’t get to.
At least a couple?
if by a couple you mean over 100 as the season has progressed.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
NOOOOOOOO NOT HIM
Ken_Rosenthal
#Padres activate Hairston. Can hit, but not play defense. Gwynn likely will be activated in Colorado – for defense. #SFGiants #Rockies #MLB
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
So now that torres is out for the season
I just projected vomited for 15 minutes at the thought of a mixture of rowand and velez leading off for the rest of the season and letting balls drop in like a driving range.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
*projectile
But hey torres wasn’t hitting and hadn’t walked or stolen a base in september so I guess rowand and velez will be no different.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Rowand is not a bad CF
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 12, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Guillen also gets to everything that’s hit to him.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Sep 12, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Eventually.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
But possibly not before it get to him first.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 12, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions

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