minor lines, 8/5/10
Highlights from the Giants farm: Mike MacDonald pitched a complete-game shutout; Eric Hacker allowed just 1 ER in 8.1 IP; and six hitters, including Bradon Belt, Conor Gillaspie, Brett Pill, Joe Borchard, Ryan Cavan, and James Simmons, homered as part of multi-hit performances.
AAA: Fresno defeated Round Rock 8-1
Fresno: CF Tyler Graham: 3 for 5, 2B, 2 SB
Fresno: 3B Jesus Guzman: 1 for 5, HR
Fresno: 1B Brett Pill: 2 for 5, HR, 2B, SO
Fresno: LF Joe Borchard: 2 for 4, HR, 2B, BB, SO
Fresno: C Jackson Williams: 3 for 5, 2B, SO
Fresno: SP Eric Hacker: 8.1 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K--1 HB
Guzman and Pill went back-to-back in the 1st inning for their 15th and 14th HRs, respectively. Borchard added his 13th HR in the 9th inning. Both Graham and Williams added three hits each, raising their respective AVGs to .355 and .250.
Although he had just 2 K, Hacker might still have had his best start of the year. It was at least his longest start of the year (in terms of IP) as he faced just three batters over the minimum through the first eight innings. He lowered his ERA to 4.30.
AA: Richmond defeated New Hampshire 10-0
Richmond: 2B Nick Noonan: 3 for 4, 3B, SH
Richmond: RF Brandon Belt: 3 for 5, HR, SO, SB
Richmond: 3B Conor Gillaspie: 2 for 3, HR, 2 BB
Richmond: SP Mike MacDonald: 9.0 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 5 K
Belt and Gillaspie each had their 6th Eastern League HRs. For Gillaspie, it was just his third HR since the end of April; for Belt, it was his first HR in his last ten games. While Gillaspie reached base four time, Belt and Noonan had three hits each, raising their respective AVGs to .345 and .268.
MacDonald had clearly his best start of the year with the complete game shutout. He had 5 K and a 12/8 GO/FO line as he faced just three batters over the minimum.
A+: San Jose defeated Stockton 6-3
San Jose: 1B Michael Sandoval: 3 for 4, 2B, SO
San Jose: RF James Simmons: 2 for 4, HR
San Jose: SP Jorge Bucardo: 4.1 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 7 BB, 2 K
Simmons had his 8th HR. Sandoval's three hits raised his AVG to .333.
Bucardo uncharacteristically struggled with his control, issuing free passes to better than one third of the 23 batters he faced. His BB/IP ratio was 0.27 this year before his promotion to the Cal League.
A-: Augusta defeated Charleston 2-1
(scoring a run in both the 8th and 9th innings)
Augusta: 2B Ryan Cavan: 2 for 5, HR
Augusta: SP Wilmin Rodriguez: 3.2 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K
Augusta: RP Chris Wilson: 1.2 IP, 4 K--1 HB
Augusta: RP Hector Correa: 1.0 IP, 2 K
Cavan led off the 8th inning with a game-tying solo HR, his 11th HR this year and the GreenJackets' only XBH of the night.
Wi-Rod made his first start since pitching in the Nowrthwest League three years ago. Wilson, making his first appearance with a full-season affiliate this year, and Correa combined to strike out six of their nine batters.
ssA: Salem-Keizer lost to Spokane 11-2
Salem-Keizer: 3B-2B Adam Duvall: 2 for 4, HR, GiDP
Spokane: SS Jurickson Profar: 1 for 3, 2B, 2 BB, SB
Salem-Keizer: SP Edward Concepcion: 4.0+ IP, 5 H, 9 R, 9 ER, 4 BB, 4 K--2 HR, 2 HB
Duvall had his 3rd HR. The Rangers' 17-year-old Profar, who entered the day hitting .250/.310/.339 through 168 AB, reached base three times. Is he perhaps the youngest player in the NWL since Felix Hernandez?
With 9 ER--including 5 ER in the 3rd inning and 4 ER on a grand slam HR in the 5th inning to the final batter he faced--Concepcion's ERA ballooned over a full run to 7.42.
R: The rookie Giants had their regular off-day (every fifth day)
DSL: Giants defeated Nationals 5-4 (8 innings) in game 1
Dominican: DH Victor Feliz: 2 for 3, 2B, BB, SO
Dominican: SP Juan Nova: 5.0 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 K--2 WP
Feliz (19.8 y.o.) doubled as he reached base three times. In his eleventh start this year, Nova (18.10 y.o.) had a season-low 1 K but also just 1 BB (although his BB/IP remains above 0.50). With 0 ER in 5.0 IP, he got his ERA back below 3.00.
DSL: Giants lost to Nationals 16-3 (7 innings) in game 2
Dominican: 2B Cristian Paulino: 3 for 4, 2B, SO, CS, 2 E
Dominican: RP Minier: 2.1 IP, 3 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 2 BB--1 HR, 2 HB, 1 WP
Paulino's (18.11 y.o.) three hits raised his AVG to .255, but he also comitted his 15th and 16th errors. While all three Gigantes' pitchers yielded at least five runs, Minier (18.5 y.o.) at least logged the longest appearance with 2.1 IP as he made his just his fifth pro appearance.
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Nice game from Belt (as usual)
I wonder if we’ll see Hacker in Sept.
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Yes, you’ll see a bunch of them.
.277/.399/.518 out of a shortstop?!
Keep on, keepin' on, Ryan Cavan
Gillaspie
Is he a prospect again?
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 5, 2010 10:41 PM PDT reply actions
Season line: .289/.341/.416
If he can show another month like July (.402/.469/.549), then yes.
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I looked at the leage leaders in the Eastern Leage, theres only a half dozen players with a ave above .300, makes Gillaspie and Neal look more succesful. but Neither has that much Power but still id like to think more then just Belt have a chance off the Richmond team.
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I think Neal still has a shot. I’m liking Gillaspie too, but I’m optimistic on Neal. And of course Belt.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 6, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Gillespie is on the Yonder Alonso path. Next year is his 4th and last option year. He will have to be called up to the Majors in 2012 or we’ll lose him.
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is that because of the sept call up the year he was drafted?
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Because of the call-up
To call him up, they needed to add him to the 40-man, and once he’s on the 40-man he needs to be optioned down the minors each year at the end of spring training.
If not for the call-up, he probably still would not be on the 40-man roster.
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It was widely speculated that it was a predraft deal
start his clock and he’ll sign for under slot.
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I heard this reported as fact.
Although it may have been crappy reporting.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
It is a fact
It was a part of the contract that he signed. He got the 40-man roster designation in exchange for taking less money. Kind of like the deal that pitcher Chris Sale signed this year with the White Sox.
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I don’t think this is quite correct. He was never on optional assignment in the year in which he was drafted, so an option was not used this year. This is his second year in which an option is being used. Because he has four options, he could remain in the minors for all of 2011 and 2012 on optional assignment.
that's actually not awful
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The league average is something like .250/.330/.380.
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Which makes Belt's performance all the more impressive.
I noticed he has 6 triples in 103 AB. He’s only two off the league lead. VROOOOOOM! 6 2B 6 3B and 6 HR.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
I’d still like to see him get moved to 2nd base.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 6, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
/clank
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I thought his defensive issues were centered around his arm, no?
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Nope
He has below-average range at 3B, and his glove is average at best. He doesn’t have the range to be a 2B.
We all have to admit that Gillaspie is not going to be a major leaguer for the Giants. As somebody noted above, if he isn’t on the Giants’ 25 man roster by the end of next year then he becomes an unrestricted free agent. His lack of power, speed, and defense is not going to turn around in the next year.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
if he makes enough contact, though (and he’s starting to turn it around, hopefully), he can be the utility bat off the bench that plays 3 positions poorly!
Like a Jamie Carroll light. Man I can’t believe I’m hoping somebody turns into Jamie Carroll light.
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If he can just find a way to get into Bochy’s good graces this spring he’ll be set for years.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Wrong.
He’s not 30 yet.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Interesting
Not sure where I got the impression that his defensive issues were throwing related but thanks for clarifying, even if it’s bad news.
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I watched him 3 times last year
And once this year. His arm is pathetic and is definitely a problem.
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by Azmanz on Aug 6, 2010 3:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Fla-Giant, you’re right about Gillaspie’s skillset, but wrong about his administrative future. He’s a special 4 options case, two of which have already been burned. He can be optioned again next year and in 2012. If in ST of 2013 he fails to make the 25 man squad he would have to be waived and at that point he goes through the familiar waiver process. Another team could claim him if they were willing to put him on their 40 man, or he could clear waivers and the Giants could assign him to Fresno.
Of course, this doesn’t necessarily have to take placei in ST 2013, the same process could be enacted any time before then if the Giants were to remove him from the 40 man to make space for somebody else.
However, I don’t believe he’d become an unstricted FA until he’d spent 6 years int he minors, which is the point at which players become minor league FA. Steve or Brute could help me with that, but I believe that’s the case.
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jeez. I didn’t know he was that bad on defense. I was just thinking that his bat would play better as a 2b.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 6, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
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by sadison bummedgarner on Aug 5, 2010 11:14 PM PDT reply actions
hope we see Belt in September
also hope Michael Sandoval keeps hitting and at least gets a cup of coffee in the majors one day
by 49erEmpire on Aug 6, 2010 12:15 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I agree. He seems too good for high A, but I’m guessing they don’t think he’s ever going to make it, so why not have him as org filler to be near Pablo?
He’s hitting (SSS alert, of course) .333/.393/.547, and he’s 29. I suppose he should probably be at AAA more than A, but that defeats the be-close-to-Panda strategy. Who knows.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 6, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
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I have a feeling that, especially since he got such a late start this season, they’re leaving him in SJ to get re-acclimated to playing professional ball. It’s been a while since he was last in the minors. I think that should they keep him around next year, they’ll push him up (possibly to Fresno).
The “close to Pablo” angle is probably a factor, as well. I believe I read somewhere that their places are something like 15 minutes from each other.
Tyler Graham
He appears to be getting the majority of Bowker’s ABs, and keeps motoring along. I know he has no power and is not starter material, but it sure would be nice to have a guy like him on the bench to get on base and/or steal a base in the late innings during September. He seems like he would be a very useful and unusual weapon for us.
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Tyler Graham
If he had enough plate appearances, he currently would be second in the PCL in batting average, tenth in OBP, and is fourth in steals. He needs to average 3.7 plate appearances per game for the remaining games to qualify. If he keeps this up, I think he’s got to be considered a prospect and someone who might get a September callup. The Giants are going to call someone up who can steal a base in September. We don’t want to see any more pinch running with Whiteside.
his minorleaguesplits MLE is .311/.346/.382. That’s not too bad for a fast guy, but it is rather BABIP dependent. that MLE projects his BABIP in the majors as .375, which I highly doubt will happen in the bigs.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 6, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Still hoping for great things from Noonan
Is he still a legitimate prospect or not? I know he is young for the league, but what kind of chance does he have?
I think his recent streak is promising
Noonan’s young for AA, and still only 20 years old, so I think he could add bulk in the next couple of years that will help him drive the ball more. I think his recent success shows that he’s starting to adjust to playing against AA talent, but while I know the Giants typically promote prospects along regardless of their progression, I hope to see Noonan spend another year in AA. Partly to gain confidence and partly because the Eastern League may be tougher to hit in than the PCL, and it seems that the PCL’s band box ballparks can tend to develop bad habits in players with little to mediocre power.
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by Giant Torture on Aug 6, 2010 5:12 AM PDT up reply actions
He's 21
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by Giant Fan in Singapore on Aug 6, 2010 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, missed his birthday
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by Giant Torture on Aug 6, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Bulking up isn’t going to help him if he doesn’t hit the ball; his K rate is pretty high for a low-power, low-walk hitter, and it’s getting worse as the season goes along.
I’m still a Noonite, but hope is fading.
Very true
But he’s started to hit the ball better in August, although his K’s were way up in July.
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by Giant Torture on Aug 6, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Culberson is better
IMO, Culby has passed Noonan on the 2B prospect list. His remarkable and sustained gain in power, coupled with his dramatic drop in K-rate has been the great surprise (behind only Belt) of the minor leagues for the Giants this year. Culby hurt his thumb about 2 weeks ago, so his power his dropped as he tries to work through that, but his K-rate continues to drop through it all.
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Noonan !
Nice to see Noonan coming around. It is easy to forget that he is so young. Hopefully he gets an additional year in 2A and turns out to be the prospect we all thought he would.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 6, 2010 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions
this is chasm right?
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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Aug 6, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Damn
that’d be such a cool story for him to get back to his form and be a good pitcher for his hometown team
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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Aug 6, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Nice to see Belt surviving his mini slump.
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So
Does Belt stay in AA the rest of the season or does he make the jump to AAA soon?
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probably stays in AA for now
but could be a Sept call up
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 6, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I wonder whether they’d consider sending him to Fresno to help out in the playoffs. Richmond won’t be needing him.
It would seem kind of silly considering he would only have 30 or so games there and IIRC he has been “Struggling” as of late. I would hope they let him figure himself out and if he does by seasons end, then they let him try to attack a MLB breaking ball.
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by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d imagine he stays in AA since he wouldn’t have enough time to really adjust to AAA (season ends in early Sept) If he goes anywhere it would be to SF just to give him a taste of a breaking ball or two.
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by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions
+1
If for some reason they don’t call him up when the rosters expand in Sept., then he will most likely get sent to Fresno for the playoffs – since Richmond won’t get a sniff of the postseason. But I just can’t see any way that Belt isn’t in SF in Sept.
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also, why demote him?
/Sabean’d
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 6, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bowkermania Update
Postponed by rain. It also appears that they want him to be at 1B.
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