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Giants/Braves Series Preview

In 5001 Nights at the Movies, seminal film critic Pauline Kael wrote this:

Star-divide

In "Under Siege 2", the Williseyean protagonist, Casey Ryback (played by Steven Seagal), is on a collision course with his antagonist – a glass-chewing mercenary (played by Everett McGill) who has a history with Ryback. The movie builds up the inevitable confrontation; it’s a metaphorical collision course, as if they were both trains on the same track instead of two hacks on the same train.

After almost two hours of buildup later, the two characters meet for the final battle. What follows is a stroke of directing brilliance – Ryback just kicks McGill’s character until McGill dies. There is no back and forth, and Seagal’s character was never in danger. It is an absolute pummeling. You might think of it as a letdown, but I think of it as the defining moment in the film career of one of our greatest American action stars.

Couldn’t have written it better myself. Is it wrong that when I think of a Jason Heyward/Buster Posey showdown that I think of "Under Siege 2?" Maybe that’s a little off anyways. Maybe I should think of "The Bourne Ultimatum", where Jason Bourn slaps a rival around with a folded up magazine, but still takes a good amount of damage. It was a much fairer fight.

Maybe I should just think about baseball.

When the Giants took two out of three from the Braves earlier in the year, it was a different Braves team. Not because their roster is turned over or healthier, but because the Braves were on a losing skid that would bottom out at 12-17, already six games back in the beginning of May. Shortly after that, they went on a tear and they haven’t stopped. When American League-loving weenies talk about the disparity of talent between the elite teams in either league, they’re nuts – the Braves are as complete of a team as any in baseball.

Maybe. It was a lot easier to say that before the season, when Yunel Escobar was a) on the team and b) a legit All-Star candidate and when Melky Cabrera and Nate McClouth were serviceable instead of wretched. Other than those minor details, the Braves are still a pretty good team. Instead of giving up and retiring after giving up a ninth-inning home run to Edgar Renteria, which is what I would have done, Billy Wagner is leading a fantastic bullpen. The rotation is probably underperforming, and I’d take the over on what the offense is currently doing too. They’re playing well right now, but they could be even better.

So while it was great for the Giants to go into Washington and Milwaukee and do some road damage, this is probably going to be just a wee bit tougher. Remember when the Braves were finally bad? Remember those three glorious seasons in which they finished between 71 and 84 wins? That was fun. Bastards. I’d love to read a "Moneyball"-style book about the Braves. For almost two decades, they’ve been run as well as any professional sports franchise. Even when they make a horrific mistake – like turning Neftali Feliz and Elvis Andrus into Mark Teixeira into Casey Kotchman into 242 at-bats of Adam LaRoche – they still come out with a good team and a deep organization.

The Braves kind of make me sick. I humbly propose that the Giants should consider not losing to them for the rest of the season.

Hitter to watch:

See, here’s what I’m talking about. It would be unfair to Matt Downs to write that Martin Prado had a Downs-like career in the minors: Prado didn’t have the early success in lower levels that Downs did. Then when Prado stuck with the Braves as a utility player, they sacrificed whatever small animal is needed for their blood ritual, and Prado then morphed into an All-Star. They do this crap all the time. It’s a little easier to take the The Season of Andres Torres, Man-Beast, but not much.

Pitcher to watch:

See, here’s what I’m talking about. Kris Medlen was a reliever for much of his minor-league career. That was his role when he made the majors. When the Braves needed a stopgap starter due to an injury to Jair Jurrjens, Medlen converted to a starting pitcher. That gag never works out. It works in reverse, sure, but it’s pretty rare for a reliever to turn into a successful starter, at least right away. Of course, that’s no problem for the Braves and their magic organizational blood rituals. I’m tired of it.

Actually, I don’t think Medlen is pitching in this series, which is just fine with me. But, of course, the Braves have four other good starters to fill in the gaps. I hate this franchise, and I always will.

Prediction:

Melvin Nieves will never lead the Padres to a World Series. Bastards.

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by redhornet78 on Aug 5, 2010 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

You are incorrect. We are “you people.”

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU

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by can of corn on Aug 5, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fixed
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by Giant Fan in Singapore on Aug 5, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Im glad Prado is out this series, he seems like he would kill the giants. Sucks about his injury though, I like watching him play

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by CB30 on Aug 5, 2010 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

After reading that article on 1993

I hope we destroy the Braves. Psh… Lasorda as your pal… DIE BRAVES!

by ch3zyp00fs on Aug 5, 2010 1:35 PM PDT reply actions  

I as well

I have never really harbored that much animosity toward them, but I find myself fueled with the hate of 1,000 Juan Marichals with a bat in his hand.

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by Cheeeese! on Aug 5, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

/Mocks Tomahawk Chop

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 5, 2010 1:37 PM PDT reply actions  

under siege 2

I had a physicist friend of mine complain for an hour about the sequence where Seagal outruns the train collision.

by non sequitur on Aug 5, 2010 1:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Instead of giving up and retiring after giving up a ninth-inning home run to Edgar Renteria, which is what I would have done,

I would not mind seeing this type of joke pop up more often. Of course, Grant’s fantastic because he varies his jokes and knows how to pick his spots, but I rather enjoyed that bon mot.

Also, whenever the Giants play the Braves, I get real quiet. It’s like watching my older brother (if I had one) get in a fist fight with my Dad (if I had one); I’m anxious, horrified, fascinated and excited all at the same time. I don’t know what’s going to happen, but I might not be the same afterward.

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 1:39 PM PDT reply actions  

I would make a witty reply (if I had one)...

but I do feel your pain. This series will be much more so for me because "We Might Be In This Thing ™ " and it’s been a while.

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by nvsfg on Aug 5, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, I'm still not over 1993.

Fucking Rockies. Win a game, you bunch of tools.

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by antinous on Aug 5, 2010 1:40 PM PDT reply actions  

"Hey, fellas. Were you trying to win?"

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by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah thanks Grant

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair

we are talking about a team whose staff ace was Armando Reynoso.

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by EliminateMe on Aug 5, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but they went 11-2 against Houston! Third-place, winning record Houston.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but Armando Reynoso.

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by EliminateMe on Aug 5, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

'93?

Hell, I’m not over ’69. Lost to Atlanta that year too. After ’69, nothing about the Giants has been able to hurt me.

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by gallo del cielo on Aug 5, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

No one ever ever says old man

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by EliminateMe on Aug 5, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

hotness

I’m worried about TimLin today. He does much better in cool weather. Oh, the heat and humidity of it all. Someone reassure me.

by dnajms on Aug 5, 2010 1:40 PM PDT reply actions  

xanthan can you show him that graph that basically disproves this

by aaroncallagher on Aug 5, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not Xanthan, but it's nice to be mentioned in the same breath as him.

Ugh, again.

Also, I know it isn’t perfect, but correlation is basically nil (.15 or .25)

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by grape on Aug 5, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do these axis mean anything?

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by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

vertical: number of eggs
horizontal: grading curve

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by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

axes?

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 5, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

ERA and temp I think

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by CB30 on Aug 5, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

So… doesn’t that show that he does actually perform better in colder weather?

by GrooveGiant on Aug 5, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

it shows that weather has no effect whatsoever on his performance. The data points are all over the place, irrespective of the weather

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Winner winner, chicken dinner

I talked about this previously, but this is just last year, and doesn’t take into account humidity.

All in all, you’re right. It’s mostly noise.

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by grape on Aug 5, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s such a mild correlation that it’s probably just statistical noise.

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by groug on Aug 5, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

But he is not any worse in hot weather either

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by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Am I missing part of the chart? I don’t see any data points @ over 90 degrees.

by GrooveGiant on Aug 5, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

because he's never pitched in that range?

the points on the chart are all of his starts. They are not distributed in a way that shows weather has any effect whatsoever on how he pitches. It has nothing to do with it, in fact.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t that line that goes upward the average ERA for that temperature?

by GrooveGiant on Aug 5, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

the data points (little diamond things) are what you need to look at. I’m not sure what the line is, I’d assume league average or something.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus the hot weather games are a very small sample size. One would expect that for a Giants player.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly, so I wonder if Tim being in hot weather for a longer period of time (like on a road trip) has any effect on his performance.

I’ve heard Tim has said he prefers cooler weather. Not that this necessarily means he performs worse in hotter temps (although I’ve heard he hates spring training). Though, this does create hope that he’ll stick with the Giants after his arb years are through.

by GrooveGiant on Aug 5, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even stats aside, I can barely function it hot weather. It’s not a huge stretch (to me at least) that someone from a similar climate (I’m from the Richmond District) would melt in hot weather too.

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by troymccluresf on Aug 5, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, from what I understand, Tim not liking hot weather in general was a big factor in why he attended Wash U.

by GrooveGiant on Aug 5, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, i agree

but the facts don’t really. I don’t like hot weather either, but I’m not a professional baseball player.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup, I see what you’re saying. My point is, I wonder if he would pitch any worse if he were to do so consistently in a hot climate. Just speculation either way as the stats are too SSS to back anything up.

by GrooveGiant on Aug 5, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really doubt it

seems to me that he’d struggle pretty regularly in heat (even in SSS) if that was the case.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well for what’s worth, I think Lincecum has had pretty terrible spring trainings. 6.94 era this year. Did he do well last year?

Of course, there’s a ton of factors at play in spring training, so again it’s just reduced to speculation on my part.

by GrooveGiant on Aug 5, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

um
Well for what’s worth,

nothing.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s the only time he’s pitched consistently in hot weather.

I think it means about as much as this graph does with its SSS. My point is, I don’t know how you can say hot weather has no effect on TIm whatsoever, when there really isn’t enough info to back that up either way.

by GrooveGiant on Aug 5, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow

ok. Whatever. That you’re arguing that results in SPRING TRAINING games have as much value as results from regular season games kind of makes my point for me.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hot weather can wear on you. The longer it’s hot here the less sleep we get, the crappier we feel, and the more prone to arguments and crankiness we become.

Some people love it…

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by Merope on Aug 5, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like way more than I do the cold. And I mean Alabama cold — 30s and 40s. I don’t know if I could live in the North.

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by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

When it gets really hot I can’t breathe real well, that might just be all the pollutants in the air, but even when I was young and in shape I didn’t handle heat well.

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by Merope on Aug 5, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even down here, a lot of people can’t put up with the heat. Granted, this summer has been unusually warm, but even then it doesn’t bother me too much. I’m weird that way.

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by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is kind of BS

when it’s 110 and muggy, you don’t have any options if you have to be outside. If it’s 20 below, you just put a shit ton of clothing on. Cold sucks, but at least you can do something about it if you’re forced to be in it.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting. I feel exactly the opposite. I don’t like having to put more stuff on just to maintain body temperature. I can put on shorts and the summer and feel fine. There ain’t shit I can do about the cold.

But that, of course, is purely personal experience. Your mileage may vary.

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by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

meh

I’ve lived in Fargo in february and new orleans in August…and it’s not even close. North in winter every time for me. But yeah, I suppose it depends on what you’re used to.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

See...

I walked to work today in a short sleeve shirt (56 and drizzly) and felt fine. My fat Irish ass will take the fog any day. :)

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by troymccluresf on Aug 5, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know, I like that the Bay Area doesn’t get tremendously cold in the winter. It was quite pleasant when I visited in February, compared to the brutal cold Alabama was enduring.

But it always amuses me to see folks bundling up at AT&T on a night in July. That’s a sight you never see here.

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by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

I think it’s hilarious to see people on here whine about how “cold” the ballpark gets. When it’s like 50 degrees. I know that when it’s raining it’s colder, but anything over 50 is barely light sweater material

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

pussies

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

um

56 and drizzly is not cold, just FYI

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s exactly what I’m saying. Here, at least in the summer, it would be. That’s the kind of weather we’d expect in, say, November. I’m not trying to mix climates. I’m saying they are different.

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by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would be cold in the summer here, too

but nobody would be wearing down pullovers in that weather like they do in california (obviously excluding yourself).

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah it’s funny to hear midwesterners say “San Francisco is cold!” It’s 50-60 degrees when it’s -12 here in Chicago.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but it’s all relative. I’m sure someone in Siberia is calling you a pussy right now.

30 is fucking cold as hell… for San Francisco. Whereas 30 is just Tuesday throughout the top-right part of the country.

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by troymccluresf on Aug 5, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

midwesterners are all relative?

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by jctGamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

midwesterners are all relativeed

Fix’d

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by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL FAIL

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

fuck yes we do

if we have to put up with the cold, we’re gonna get some MILEAGE out of that bitch

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

The line is the trendline, but it’s such a bad fit for the data that it tells you nothing.

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by groug on Aug 5, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are more data points in the "cooler" area

because he’s played most of his games in cool weather.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t worry, Wellemeyer’s been activated.

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by ResDog on Aug 5, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Says the high today is 93

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 5, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Timmy will beat that.

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 5, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

sweet jesus.

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by I'm_a_Man on Aug 5, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that Stewart Scott?

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by Cody_ransom on Aug 5, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s Stuart.

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by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol fake eye

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by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've always liked that (and only that) about stu

shows that a dude with a weird wandering eye can be on TV. I have strabismus so me and him would have something to talk about. WORD

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh wow. I PROMISE I WASNT MAKING FUN OF STU.

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by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

/doesn’t want a bondslegend rampage

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by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

nah, I don't really care about that

just always thought it was cool that the dude was a talking head with a weird eye. He annoys the shit out of me but I like him because of that

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL
He annoys the shit out of me but I like him because of that

Why was I expecting something like that?

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by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

from Frisco?

Choppin' broccoli

by SimpleJaquez on Aug 5, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

San Fran

So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

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by jponry on Aug 5, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to do that, but I’m lazy.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

TimLin! How clever!

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 5, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

TimLin

BarZit
MatCai
JonSan
MadBum

More evidence of Bumgarner’s awesomeness.

by Natto on Aug 5, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

BarZit is interesting if not very flattering.
JonSan is saying “Jon” very respectfully in Japanese, right?

by non sequitur on Aug 5, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

The -san suffix is just a general catch-all for people you’re not familiar with. Sort of the equivalent. If you were being VERY respectful, you could use -sama.

by Natto on Aug 5, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blech

“Sort of the equivalent of ‘Mr’.” is what I meant to write.

by Natto on Aug 5, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just had MatCai in my Jamba Juice.

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would that be a “protein boost”?

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by EliminateMe on Aug 5, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s not actually true though.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 5, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

THIS THEORY HAS BEEN TOTALLY AND THOROUGHLY DEBUNKED AND I WISH PEOPLE WOULD JUST FUCKING STOP SAYING THIS STUPID BULLSHIT

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

So…tell me how you really feel…

/Sits back and puffs pipe

I feel prickishly demanding!

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by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 5, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

But thats' what the old ball player from the 90's said

on the box where where images of people’s heads instruct me in the wonders of Baseballdom.

Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

by Cody_ransom on Aug 5, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

The guy on the far right looks like he’s possessed by the devil

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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 5, 2010 1:41 PM PDT reply actions  

batboys are not safe from the rituals!!

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coors Field…crap, it was Mile High Stadium in 93, s.o.b.

"Its not so much me as it is Roenick, hes good" - Vince Vaughn

"Its not so much Kontos as it is me, I'm good." - Angryjay93

by angryjay93 on Aug 5, 2010 1:41 PM PDT reply actions  

The Grant Jinx is alive and well
Braves writers are abuzz: Kris Medlen has partial tear in elbow, on the DL. Top prospect Mike Minor up to start. Kawakami optioned to AAA.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 5, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions  

I am Grant, destroyer of worlds.

Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 5, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHY THE FUCK WONT YAHOO LET ME PICK THAT DUDE UP

FUCK

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

POKEMONZ

You can get Zach Miner, though. He’s on the DL.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's been on ESPN's FA list for a while.

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by Azmanz on Aug 5, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

yahoo fucking sucks ass

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

They didn’t have Bumgarner listed in one of my leagues until after his third start.

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weird. he was in my league at draft time. I think Yahoo requires the player to have appeared in at least one game before being listed.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s the thing. I picked him up in one right away, but this one took forever. I have no idea why.

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know why

because yahoo fucking sucks ass. Up until this year THEY CHARGED YOU FOR LIVE SCORING. Seriously, what is that shit?

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I KNOW! And they did the same with fantasy football. Bunch of fuckers.

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure there's any good reason to not use ESPN

unless you just plain don’t like them…they are by FAR the best to use with any fantasy sports.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m just lazy and use yahoo. I don’t really use them because of my hatred for ESPN, just being a creature of habit.

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

meh

I only use them if someone else sets up the league

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha. Same here. That’s why I said I’m lazy lol

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

They actually posted a notice about this when MadBum was called up

It’s because he needs to pitch 3 games to qualify for either the SP or RP position. Otherwise they can’t be appropriately added to the system.

Lame, but whatevs.

by GrooveGiant on Aug 5, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

nah

because I was able to start hellickson in his first ML start. I have no idea how they run it.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, who knows.

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Got him last night in CBS

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by say hey nation on Aug 5, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought the Grant Jinx only worked on Giants.

by Evan on Aug 5, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, I am shocked by Minor

I thought he was a massive overdraft last year…and then the Braves turn him into a very good young pitcher.

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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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by Gobroks on Aug 5, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Neftali Perez? Is he related to Pedro Sandoval?

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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 5, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions  

He meant Neifi Feliz.

by non sequitur on Aug 5, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

DEIVI CRUZ

I’m doing it wrong, I think.

Fuck Armageddon, this is hell.

by Disaster on Aug 5, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe Sanchez

"I don’t think I’ve ever heard a louder chorus of boos than when the Dodgers made the third out of the ninth. It was awesome.." - Aubrey Huff

by EliminateMe on Aug 5, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

When did Tim McCarver take over this thread?

by AngeloB on Aug 5, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

wohhoooooooo

fuck you Bautista

glad to see you go go go go goodbye

Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 5, 2010 1:46 PM PDT reply actions  

cant find the story where wellemeyer was activtated, but…wellemeyer > bautista when it comes to inning eating long relief.

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by angryjay93 on Aug 5, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same difference

They both suck and the Giants gave up too much to get them.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah Sabean said on the radio yesterday that it was going to be Wellemeyer in long relief

Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 5, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I was hoping that was understood.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

wadded them up and bounced them 3 feet in front of the plate

Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 5, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

As a parting shot, Bautista was sure to fill up every last inbox in the Giants’ offices with his walking papers.

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bautista then tried to throw them into the trash but missed by four feet.

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by j14 on Aug 5, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rimshot!

At a players’ union meeting, they discussed the possibility of strike and Bautista said, “What’s that?”

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by Goofus on Aug 5, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then someone said “It means they give us what we want, or we walk,” and Bautista said “Oh, now I get it!”

"I don’t think I’ve ever heard a louder chorus of boos than when the Dodgers made the third out of the ninth. It was awesome.." - Aubrey Huff

by EliminateMe on Aug 5, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rimshot!

Bautista’s wife asked him to go to Target to pick up some things, but he couldn’t find the entrance!

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rimshot!

He met God, who said “I command thee to…” Bautista interrupte, “Command? What’s that?”

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by Goofus on Aug 5, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rimshot!

Denny Bautista is not a good pitcher!

"I don’t think I’ve ever heard a louder chorus of boos than when the Dodgers made the third out of the ninth. It was awesome.." - Aubrey Huff

by EliminateMe on Aug 5, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

...
San Francisco Giants Pitchers: 426 Walks – Most in NL
Atlanta Braves Batters: 438 Walks – Most in NL

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on Aug 5, 2010 1:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Bautista will find a way to walk in a run this series.

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by j14 on Aug 5, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe it....

He will just do it under the guise of Todd Walkameyer.

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Giants Front Office....Torture!

by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Book it

Lincecum No Hitter, 5 BB.

by ch3zyp00fs on Aug 5, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but 45% of those were from Bautista!

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, I’m surprised Bud Selig hasn’t banned these two teams for cheating the game so much.

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s ok because wellemeyer is back now

The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.

by SF Pete on Aug 5, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Inexplicably, no Braves batter will walk in this series.

by Natto on Aug 5, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do we still have 13 pitchers when Uribe is hobbled?

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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Aug 5, 2010 1:53 PM PDT reply actions  

oh wait it looks like he's better

RF Torres
2B Sanchez
1B Huff
C Posey
SS Uribe
LF Burrell
3B Sandoval
CF Rowand
P Lincecum

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Aug 5, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

And it has Sanchez

I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz

by CB30 on Aug 5, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

You would prefer Renteria/Uribe at SS/2B?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz

by CB30 on Aug 5, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually

Yes, I would, but not as much as Uribe/Downs or Rohlinger. I think both of them can hit .260 and neither have large moles.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mole bias!

I feel prickishly demanding!

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by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 5, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uribe/Downs or Rohlinger

This is relevant to my interests…

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by nvsfg on Aug 5, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

fuck and yes

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

For now, yes.

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

But you have to have a good contact hitter, who battles in the 2 hole...

This will help players get more RBI’s and increase the team’s batting average.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just a little…

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I seriously had a long argument at work regarding Sanchez. I said he shouldn’t bat 2nd because he’s struggling like crazy. He said he’s just fine because your #2 hitter’s job is “to move the runner over.” I said he’s batting horribly and has a low OBP, he said he’s just fine, because his job is “to move the runner over.” I said that every time I’ve seen him bat, he’s never hit the ball hard (I’ve not seen any of his XBHs this year), he said “he keeps the ball on the ground, and that’s what they coach you to do.” I asked if they teach that at the ML level, and the question was avoided.

Thanks, jerks. I’m now to the point I just can’t have a discussion with non-McCC people without being angry.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Aug 5, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just talk about RBI's

And sacrifice bunts like they’re good things.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have NO idea how true that is!

We once had a conversation that sac bunts by non-pitchers before the 7th inning is a bad idea. Why sacrifice outs just to move a runner over when you should be playing to score multiple runs?

My point was rejected out of hand. I hate these people.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Aug 5, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

my dad still uses batting average

and refuses to learn about OBP or anything related to it.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

My mom’s boyfriend believed that JT Snow saved countless runs and that Bengie Molina was the greatest defensive catcher and pitch-caller ever. He’s a tool.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

If only he had five of himself.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 5, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

My dad and I got in a straight up yelling match the other night about why the Bowker trade was a bad idea. He refuses to acknowledge that Sabean did not receive proper value in return for Bowker. This led to a discussion of Freddy Sanchez and that trade (which he loved) and he again could not understand that it was a bad trade because Alderson should’ve pulled more value than a declining second baseman. I tried to bring in his slash line since the all-star break and he asked me what a slash-line was. Not a UZR or any crazy sabermetric term, but a slash-line. I facepalmed.

by Cheeeese! on Aug 5, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

He also says that how Alderson has performed since the trade means that it was a good trade.

This made me angry.

by Cheeeese! on Aug 5, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah,

it’s like trying to argue with someone on fox news. They’re not going to listen to reason.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s funny reading all this, because every dumb argument made by people you all know is exactly what my coworker says.

I tend to just walk away from these arguments because he’ll keep going and I don’t like to argue.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Aug 5, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

just join fantasy leagues with people like that. Then laugh as they all wonder why your team is 10x better.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

of course

it needs to be an OBP/SLG league.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, instead I get to hear about his fantasy league.

Seriously, I need to work from home more often. Either that or record our conversations to transcribe on this site.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Aug 5, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ooh…I like your second idea.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 5, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, that would be good for some laughs

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

Is a great idea…

Maybe there could be an entire thread, dedicated to the idiotic conversations we’ve had with people.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 6, 2010 5:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

i agree with your dad. it was good to get Sanchez. and the Bowker trade was good too….we got something of MLB value for two guys with likely no upside

by justhangin on Aug 5, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

nah

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is a lot of wrong

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Define Upside.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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by jctGamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

NO

I have no problem with getting either of those guys. It is who we gave up for them that makes it a bad trade.

With Alderson in particular, I find it impossible to believe that Sabean maximized the value of the prospect he was trading (a common thread with Sabean trades, by the by.) Alderson was highly regarded as a prospect (yes, there were rumors that he was regressing, but the conventional wisdom as I understand it was that he was still highly regarded) and to trade him for an already in his 30s middle infielder who is batting average dependent was a stupid trade.

Don’t even get me started on Bowker. The fact that the Giants were inept at developing him does not mean that it was a good idea to trade him.

by Cheeeese! on Aug 5, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

By either of those guys, I mean the three guys we traded for.

by Cheeeese! on Aug 5, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not really.

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

We gave up TURPEN for a better pitcher than Lopez.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Aug 5, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

DANIEL TURPEN is individually worse than Joe Martinez. And he was all it took to get a better pitcher than Lopez.

We got a better pitcher for Lopez for literally less than half the talent. I mean, fuck.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Aug 5, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

ugh

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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 5, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

trolling ?

you do know you are posting at McCovey Chronicles right ?

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by nvsfg on Aug 5, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

TURPEN

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Aug 5, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Come here often?

Just kidding, obviously you don’t. However, I’d point out that you left out Fred Lewis, Kevin Frandsen, Joe Nathan and also left out how great Rowand, Molina and Renteria are. If you’re going to hit the hot buttons to piss everyone off, have the stones to touch’em all.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 6, 2010 5:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

My coworker laughs at me every time I say On Base Percentage. He pretends like he sees value in it, but really only cares about batting average, homers and ribeyes.

I’d understand if he were old, but he’s right in his mid-30s, just like me. But like many people who come here and say, “If you played baseball, you’d know about this!” he uses his high school baseball experience as his point of reference.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Aug 5, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I had learned everything I know about baseball from men with crappy mustaches in the 80s, I’d be much worse off.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bill simmons and jack-o aren't that old

yet they’re total morons about baseball stats. Simmons is coming around, but I think over 30 is about the cutoff point.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Simmons is getting better, but he’s still learning.

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

he at least realizes that RsBI is retarded

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone people think they’re getting extra fancy by looking at the number of runs a player scored. The only way that’s a worthwhile stat is if it gets you to look at the player’s OBP.

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Runs is just as bad as RsBI

totally reliant on your teammates. That’s why fantasy baseball has a HUGE part to do with people’s baseball ignorance. I wish they’d change the standard scoring to categories that the hitter actually controls. I’m in a league with OBP/SLG/HR/BB/TB. Not perfect, but the hitter is at least in control with all of those stats. Maybe XBH would be better than TB, but it’s still wayyy better than standard.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think if you had to defend runs in open court, you could say that a guy who scores a lot of runs probably has a high on base percentage. That was my point.

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably true

But the only way you directly control your own scoring of runs is by hitting HRs.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is another thing my dad doesn’t (refuses to) understand. That RBIs are much more indicative of your teammates ability to get on base than your ability to “hit in the clutch.”

by Cheeeese! on Aug 5, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really cannot grasp why the fuck people think RsBI is a good stat

seriously, it took me two fucking seconds to realize how stupid it is.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

because that's where the money lies

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by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think there are people who believe in RUNS THAT ACTUALLY SCORED and people who believe in HOW RUNS ACTUALLY SCORE and there’s only so much wiggle room by which you can turn the first into the second.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Aug 5, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, you Sabermetrics loving teenagers

Be gentle with us old fogies, because in 20 years, there’s going to be some new statistics revolution and a bunch of young punks are going to come around snickering about your quaint, outdated ways.

by craigcommaroger on Aug 5, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd make a joke here about Power Factor

but I wont.

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by jctGamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

and those of us who are smart and progressive will get on board with the new stats and not cling to our old, outdated modes of understanding the game because we’re smart and awesome

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by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

bingo

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

yeah and in the future, old people are gonna listen to rap

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by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

“I love that song. Your grandmother was a ho.”

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

The zoo?

What are you, gay?

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by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Moooom, Grandpa called me gay!”
“Don’t tell on me, bitch.”

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

“No snitchin”

GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Aug 5, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

That frightens me. Although a related phenomenon is that I’ll be old and still playing video games.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

CARTOONS

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Aug 5, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same old boring tentacle cartoons.

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by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

PEOPLE ONLY HAVE SO MANY ORIFICES

WHERE’S THE ORIGINALITY ANYMORE?

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by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cartoons?

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Aug 5, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those teenagers you’re talking about need to get the hell off my 25-year-old lawn.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Aug 5, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

no, not really

because, offensively at least, the way the game is measured really can’t be improved. It’s all about defensive metrics, and I’m all for change in that area as well.

I’m what’s called “a reasonable person”, and if someone shows me a way of doing things that’s better than the way I’ve always done it, I don’t shun them and shoo them away, I say “thank you, I now understand something I enjoy better than I used to”.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

All I said was be gentle

Old people like their revolutions like they like their food: soft and easy to digest.

by craigcommaroger on Aug 5, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

.....

maybe unreasonable old people.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you saying Dr. Dre is unreasonable?

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by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

its silly to be dogmatic about these things. it would be foolish dismiss historic measures like a player’s batting average or rbis. similarly it wouldnt be wise to ignore these newer measures.

by justhangin on Aug 5, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

no,

it’s not silly to dismiss RsBI. Because it’s a bad and worthless stat.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

RBI is the best metric for determining how many runs a player has driven in

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by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

/twitch

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like it or not

That is correct. You cannot sweep aside RBIs cause they still tell you information.

It just should not be used in such a high weight for determining how good a player is.

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by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um ok

“they tell you information”…there are a lot of things that tell me information. Whether or not that information is relevant and valuable is a different story. RsBI is totally meaningless simply because there are a MYRIAD of other, better offensive metrics. There is no reason to use RsBI when evaluating a player’s talent.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

The number of runs a player batted in is relevant to the season, and valuable. It just does not need to be weighted toward a player. Much more valuable in a team sense.

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by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, it makes sense when doing it for the entire team

but I’m willing to bet that 95% of the time someone cites them it’s to evaluate an individual, which makes no sense.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why wouldn’t you just use team runs then?

The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.

by SF Pete on Aug 5, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh

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by CB30 on Aug 5, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have to say, I like the way this comment reflects on my username.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 5, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Switch to howtheyactuallyscored

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by CB30 on Aug 5, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s just inviting some newb to create a howtheydidn’tactuallyscore name, though.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 5, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

/makes new account

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 5, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED, OLD MAN

I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

/creates new account

/types "howtheydidn’tactuallyscore_name_though, hits create, thinks about it.

SHIT!

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by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

RBI is relevant

Because it is one of the ten major fantasy baseball categories.

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by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

not if you're in a good league!

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think I've ever been in a league that didn't count RBI

and I’ve never heard of a hipster fantasy league that thought RBI were too corporate

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by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm in one this year

no RsBI, no SB, no ERA, no Saves. It’s fantastic

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha

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by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

BUT THE RED SOX ARE BORING

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey butthole...

I’M in my mid-30s!

Course, I started learning more about stats and all that in my earlier 30s… But I think I was over 30 already!

I’m now required by my old age to hate you.

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by JRPhillips on Aug 5, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

30s isn't really "old"

and that’s not really my point. I just think MOST people under 30 who like baseball look at it in a more enlightened way than MOST people over 30. There are obviously exceptions and it gets worse the older you go, but yeah.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey now...
There are obviously exceptions and it gets worse the older you go, but yeah.

I’m over 50 and have to explain new metrics to youngsters all of the time. Hangin out here helps a lot.

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by nvsfg on Aug 5, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you read the first part?

There are exceptions on both sides…

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did read the first part...

just wanted to say “Get off my lawn” in a new way.

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by nvsfg on Aug 5, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you’re saying there’s no such thing as exceptions? Man, I don’t like you! =)

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by JRPhillips on Aug 6, 2010 1:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm in this line

Also, I would agree that a lot of people around here run to the other side of the ship and completely devalue scouting and some of the intricacies that come from playing the game. Stats aren’t the only answer and while every one will agree with that statement in theory, very few actually pay credence to it.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 6, 2010 5:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just turned 36, but I started earlier with the STATS

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh?

Professional baseball analyst since 1980.

by owlcroft on Aug 5, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

please, give me your smug reasoning for why I'm wrong and you're correct

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well upthread . . .

. . . there was a statement in regard to comfort with modern analytic methods: “I think over 30 is about the cutoff point.” People 30 were born in 1980; if we arbitrarily assume 12 as the age at which meaningful undeerstanding of baseball analysis might begin, that’s 1992. Are we saying that no meaningful baseball analysis began before 12-year-olds started it in 1992?

That’s my reasoning, which derives from personal experience. Whether it is smug or not is not clear to me. And I am beginning to be minded of the advice Tegan’s aunt gave her: when it stops being fun, stop doing it.

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by owlcroft on Aug 5, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

But OBP is the one thing that should be absolutely accessible to an AVG booster. It’s such a ridiculously small step to take.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 5, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

and sometimes guys with high OBPs have a high BA too!

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fun fact!

in only 5 years of his career did Barry Bonds have an OBP lower than .400

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by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

READ HIS BLOG!

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by bgunn on Aug 5, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

YEAH! READ IT YOU HATERS!

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

now, seriously,

that is fucking insane. As is the fact that he won’t be a first ballot HOFer.

No wait, that’s just fucking stupid.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

but Rowand is hitting 8th, so there’s that

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

at least he’s hitting 8th?

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by jponry on Aug 5, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, Nate pretty much hasn’t gotten a hit since April

by kingofthacove on Aug 5, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, he does suck. It would be great if we had another power-hitting LHB OFer in the organization OH YEAH HE GOT TRADED FOR A BALL-THROWING LOOGY

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

In center no less.

I feel prickishly demanding!

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by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 5, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand why it’s not like this but Ishi in instead of Rowand

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 5, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

i like it better when Huff is at 1st

by aaroncallagher on Aug 5, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Had this whole argument some time ago but

I think Rowand is a better hitter than Ishikawa.

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by GiantPain on Aug 5, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s definitely grittier

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 5, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you're the one

Yeah I think Rowand has more RBI’s.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rowand has a better track record and a very low BABIP

Ishikawa has a lackluster track record and a very high BABIP.

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by GiantPain on Aug 5, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rowand has a track record

Of weak ground balls to middle infielders. Also, his BABIP is low because he sucks. Just in the same way that a player with a high BA has to have a high BABIP, a player with a low BA, will often have a low BABIP because they don’t hit the ball very hard.

Also, Ishi is raking on the road this year.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would make sense

If Rowand had a low CAREER BABIP. But when you have one season of BABIP much much lower than your career averages and you’re not hurt or something, it means you’re getting unlucky.

And doesn’t Travis Ishikawa’s 09/10 basically prove that home/road splits over the course of 1 season are FUCKING USELESS?

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by GiantPain on Aug 5, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not useless

For Ishi at least, he seems to be feast or famine, but I could agree with that if….Aaron Rowand didn’t suck. Career BABIP goes out the window when you start getting older and have run in to enough fences that your body is breaking down and you’ve lost considerable bat speed. If you watch Rowand at the plate he’s lost a good deal of bat speed, is late often, and seems to be guessing with two strikes.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Going by the numbers, and not "watching" Rowand

His GB/LB/FB percentages are all normal, and his ISO is actually above his career average. These are not things that would indicate Rowand has “lost considerable bat speed”, or whatever else you’re asserting.

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by GiantPain on Aug 5, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giant Torture/GiantPain Showdown!

/grabs popcorn

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by JRPhillips on Aug 5, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Prediction

Torture/Pain

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by CB30 on Aug 5, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Film at 11.

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by gallo del cielo on Aug 5, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know what you mean by “normal,” but his LD rate is the lowest of his career at 15.8%. Sure, last year was 16% but he sucked last year too. He also has a very low IFFB%, so he isn’t losing out there either.

He’s hitting a lot of weak ground balls, isn’t hitting a ton of line drives, and isn’t walking. He’s not good.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Never said he was good

But he’s a better hitter than Ishikawa, who is also not a good hitter.

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by GiantPain on Aug 5, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ishikawa's Career BABIP- .342

So how is .353 some kind of aberration?

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ishikawa has a LD rate of 29.9%. Now I’m not saying that he’s going to keep that up, but a .353 BABIP with that kind of LD rate is probably low.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll concede one thing, although I don’t necessarily believe it: Rowand and Ishikawa have remarkably similar ROS ZiPS, with Rowand having a slight advantage in SLG.

I still think Rowand against LHP and Ishikawa against RHP is best.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looking at Rowand's numbers he's erratic

Just looking at his overall career averages and then making assertions will lead to poor conclusions. His BABIP has been as high as .348 and as low as .292 prior to this year. It’s not as if he’s always around .320. His LD% is the lowest of his career and his GB% is almost 50% (Hello weak ground balls!) Not to mention that he strikes out almost a quarter of the time. What’s not to love about the guy?

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rowand’s BABIP isn’t low for his LD% and HR/FB%, but Ishikawa also isn’t the best line-drive hitter in the league.

by kingofthacove on Aug 5, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Extremely dubious. Ignoring BABIP, Trashy has a much higher walk rate, a slightly lower K rate, and a similar ISO.

by taliesin on Aug 5, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't ignore BABIP

Rowand’s is .30 points below career average.

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by GiantPain on Aug 5, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow, that’s a huge dropoff!

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by jponry on Aug 5, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

But if you set Trashy and Rowand’s BABIP to the same arbitrary number, since Ishikawa Ks less and walks more, he’d still be out-hitting Rowand. That’s the point.

by taliesin on Aug 5, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not true

Because Rowand hits for more power. His ISO is .30 points higher than Ishi’s over the course of their careers.

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by GiantPain on Aug 5, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Career?

The last season Rowand had with an ISO as high as his career average was 2007. In fact, in his career, he’s only been above that average twice, in 2004 and 2007. I’m gonna go ahead and say he will never have a .167 ISO again in his life.

by taliesin on Aug 5, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who cares about his career average? He’s older and slower than he used to be. Plus his walk rate is down, his LD rate is down; he would be expected to be posting lower BABIP than earlier in his career.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s older and slower than he used to be

I often wonder if the aging of guys like Bonds and Manny have caused us to lose sight of the notion that most players don’t age as well as they have.

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by JRPhillips on Aug 5, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well certainly some guys age better, but Bonds and Manny were much, much, much better than Rowand in the first place.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I debated whether to say that most players don’t age as well or just that lesser players don’t age as well… I settled on most players.

Either way, Rowand isn’t aging well.

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by JRPhillips on Aug 5, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm going to pick up my ball and go home

And just say that ZiPs agrees with me:

Ishikawa RoS: .259/.319/.417
Rowand RoS: .263/.319/.434

ZiPS is looking at the same data and coming to my conclusion: going forward, Rowand is the better hitter.

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by GiantPain on Aug 5, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

And we all know....

That ZIPS is always right.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, but

They come to an objective conclusion based on the available data, which is the best we can do.

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by GiantPain on Aug 5, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Much as I can’t stand Rowand, I think he’s still a better player than Ishikawa.

by Evan on Aug 5, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

A better player, sure, but the discussion was whether he’s a better hitter.

by taliesin on Aug 5, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right right

I think he’s both. Of course, he could be a worse hitter than Ishi and still be a better player because he still plays quite good D.

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by GiantPain on Aug 5, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably so. No way to know how much weight to give to Rowand’s bellyflop in the first part of the year, but he’s been back to normal (or better) over the last couple of months. Meanwhile, with Ishikawa you’ve got the fluky BABIP to worry about, the platooning, etc.

by Evan on Aug 5, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is, quite literally

All I am saying.

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by GiantPain on Aug 5, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem with statistics in sports

They don’t always accurately account for a player’s aging. Rowand has abused his body playing the game—somewhat to his credit—so it doesn’t seem like it would be that unreasonable for him to lose a step sooner than other players, which throws things like ZIPS off. Also, they use data from the steroid era when it was impossible to tell who was using and who wasn’t, which can skew the numbers especially with regards to the decline as players get older.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if ZIPS includes “gets into 0-2 counts 40% of the time and can’t lay off sliders” in its forecasts.

by taliesin on Aug 5, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw that 40% too..

Does that count AB’s where he puts the ball inplay before it could get to 0-2?

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by Azmanz on Aug 5, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems like a statistically insignificant event.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 5, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

When he was hitting leadoff.. he routinely led off the game with a ground out to short on the first pitch.

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by Azmanz on Aug 5, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was joking.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 5, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, only at bats of at least 3 pitches.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 5, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

But wouldn’t platoon split negate that SLG advantage for Rowand vs RHP? Neither one has an extreme platoon split in terms of AVG/OBP but Rowand’s career SLG is 60 points lower against RHP (.427 vs .489) while Ishi’s is .424 vs .278 (very small sample size for that last split).

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by EliminateMe on Aug 5, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get nervous the more games we play with the water buffalo defense

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by jponry on Aug 5, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

exactly. Although Burrell shouldnt be too much of a liability in Atlanta, right?

by aaroncallagher on Aug 5, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Burrell much better when he’s right handed power off the bench and just getting spot starts.

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 5, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

They really need to move Rowand to right or left. It’s wasteful to put Torres in the corner, especially when you have an oaf like Burrell or Huff in the other corner.

by taliesin on Aug 5, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

Rowand should really only play center when they’re giving Torres the day off.

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by JRPhillips on Aug 5, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

BUT ROWAND ISNT MAKING 12 MILLION TO PLAY THE CORNER

HE’S THE QB OF THE OF, JACKASS

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes yes yes

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by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 5, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same here

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by Gobroks on Aug 5, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

what do people think of the idea of switching sandoval and sanchez in this lineup?

by justhangin on Aug 5, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Their OBPs are literally exactly the same.

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by CB30 on Aug 5, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree. Maybe Sandoval gets better pitches. maybe.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

But...

Switching their uniforms could be funny.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Be better off just moving Sanchez down below Burrell or Sandoval and moving everyone else up.

by taliesin on Aug 5, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another good option.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 5, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like it.

I feel prickishly demanding!

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by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 5, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Imagine you're a sensible level-headed person, then try to figure out what you would do....

Brian Sabean will do the opposite.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

“How do you write Brian Sabean so well?”
“I think of any person and I take away reason and accountability.”

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do we have 13 pitchers?

The bench currently consists of Nate, Whiteside, Uribe (sore hamstring), and Ishikawa. Perhaps a middle infielder and/or a RHB would be nice?

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Aug 5, 2010 1:53 PM PDT reply actions  

DOWNS!!!

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by angryjay93 on Aug 5, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your suggestion appeals appeals to me.

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by nvsfg on Aug 5, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your logic

Is logical…

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

ill try again…Velez when he shakes off the ugly finder.

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by angryjay93 on Aug 5, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who prefer Downs to Rohlinger or vice-versa, and why?

Seeing as how both names get mentioned frequently.

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by owlcroft on Aug 5, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rohlinger

He’s hitting much better in Fresno this season, and the organization seems to considere him at least somewhat viable as a shortstop. That said, I don’t think there’s a tremendous amount to choose between them.

by taliesin on Aug 5, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

RF Torres
2B Sanchez
1B Huff
C Posey
SS Uribe
LF Burrell
3B Sandoval
CF Rowand
P Lincecum

by kingofthacove on Aug 5, 2010 1:53 PM PDT reply actions  

WTF

Why is Torres playing RF?

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why are you surprised?

Has Rowand ever played RF?

by kingofthacove on Aug 5, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not surprised

But I get a little more pissed off every time it happens, or when I’ve recently looked at Torres’ 14+ UZR lately.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Moving around from center to corner spots isn’t that easy, it’s a skill of its own. Rowand is an average center fielder and Torres has experience moving around. It’s not that egregious an offense.

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 5, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but I’d rather have the best fielder in center. He can cover up lesser outfielders’ lack of range with his own.

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by troymccluresf on Aug 5, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

rowand has played 42 games in RF, none since 2004.

.940 FP% in RF compared to .990 in CF.

OF COURSE HE CANT PLAY RIGHT, SMALL SAMPLE SIZES!!!

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by angryjay93 on Aug 5, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gritty veterans can only play center

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by CB30 on Aug 5, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t they have to be gamers too?

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Always.

And, at the end of the day, the quality of their soldiering must be ‘good.’

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Something to take in to account

Yes, Torres is a better CF than Rowand defensively. But Rowand has never played corner OF, so it is entirely possible that

(Rowand CF – Torres RF defense) > (Torres CF – Rowand RF defense)

In other words, Rowand might be worse in right than Torres is good in center.

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by GiantPain on Aug 5, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing this is right

Plus, Torres’ arm looks better, so it probably means he should be in RF

The only drawback in it; I’d rather have Torres’ superior range helping cover left-center with Burrell in LF

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by Goofus on Aug 5, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the arm thing is key.

I bet Rowand-Torres-Nate > Torres-Rowand-Nate tho

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by Azmanz on Aug 5, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not buying it. I’m pretty sure Rowand would do just fine in RF, and having Torres’ speed to cover the left-field gap with Burrell out there is significant.

by taliesin on Aug 5, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK, here's another reason

There are more walls to crash into in the corner OF spots and Rowand is attracted to walls like a moth to a flame

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by Goofus on Aug 5, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suspect his jump would suffer in right… and his range is dependent on jump, unlike Torres. Plus, the importance of range for a right fielder is magnified in ATT. I wouldn’t be upset if they switched Rownads to a corner, but I don’t think the result would be all that big of an improvement in outfield D (if any).

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 5, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that seems possible. I’m not sure that’s why the Giants keep playing Rowand in center though.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 5, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rally My Kid!

Go Giants!

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by pme on Aug 5, 2010 1:56 PM PDT reply actions  

and Happy Timmy Day!

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by pme on Aug 5, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha! so cute :)

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by GiantsBabe on Aug 5, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

for real?

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by KINGofCRA5H on Aug 5, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

only if you’ve partaken already today.

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by SimpleJaquez on Aug 5, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s 4:20 somewhere.

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by bgunn on Aug 5, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clearly

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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 5, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

PIXELS

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh wow, she's adorable!!

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by GiantsBabe on Aug 5, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thankfully looks like her mom.

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by pme on Aug 5, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT

These commercials for the penis growth pills that they advertise on KNBR always crack me up because the woman reading the ad is like “I’m an ATTORNEY here to talk to you” etc etc. That seems so random. An attorney that sounds like an 18 year old.

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Lawyers know penis size!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 5, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

We totally do. It’s a strange field.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 5, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

The ones with Jimmy Johnson make me feel very weird. Although, I guess with his name it was kind of inevitable that it would come to this one day.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 5, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

He'll take you out to dinner if you by extenze

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by Gobroks on Aug 5, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has a first and a last penis name.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 5, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just like Dick Pole

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by DrStankus on Aug 5, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT

Have we all seen Phillip Seymour Hoffman as Art Howe in Moneyball yet? It’s a disturbing photo.

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

no but did he lose a bunch of weight?

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 5, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

i read that they changed the DePo character's name because DePodesta was like, "uh, that's not me..."

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by jponry on Aug 5, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

WTF

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Aug 5, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Strange casting. Very strange. And I love Hoffman.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

wtf is this shit. Who is casting this movie?

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by CB30 on Aug 5, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

this movie looks like an utter trainwreck

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by jponry on Aug 5, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Impossible to know now

I’m really excited for it. Love the book, love Beane.

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by GiantPain on Aug 5, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the book too, but I don’t know how most of the interesting parts of the book will actually translate on the screen. And the casting is utterly bizarre.

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by jponry on Aug 5, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s a lot of those interesting parts in the script. “We can’t replace Giambi alone, but we can in the aggregate” and then showing how they can, through OBP guys whom everybody deems as scrap heap material… the emotional stuff that Lewis speaks to but doesn’t plunge into (Beane’s failed pro career, his relationship with his family), the Hatteberg stuff, some other things.

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

As far as I know, the current Sorkin-penned script hasn’t leaked yet.

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by jponry on Aug 5, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting note on that point.

Five writers worked on the screenplay at one time or another (including Stan Chervin, Stephen J. Rivele, Christopher Wilkinson). Most recently Steve Zaillian (Academy Award winner for “Schindler’s List,” writer of David Fincher’s upcoming “The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo”) was rehired to rewrite the Aaron Sorkin draft based on the original draft Zaillian had already written (got that?) Sorkin was then supposed to do a polish on the rewrite of his rewrite, but that never happened and was only reported as such to make everything look on the up and up, but several sources close to the project tell us that Sorkin overwrote himself to the point where no one was happy with his final draft including the always important Pitt (and it’s a bit of a shame as one Sorkin draft we read was funny and great).

As if the picture couldn’t get any more bad press, the film’s would-be cinematographer Adam Kimmel was arrested on charges of sexual assault of a minor in May.

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

my head hurts

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by jponry on Aug 5, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

You would be rec’d just for effort, but this is fantastic.

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by GiantPain on Aug 5, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aha…because it’s Aaron Sorkin, see?

I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just amusing myself. Something along these lines popped into my head the moment I heard that Sorkin had taken over.

by non sequitur on Aug 5, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just can’t imagine how you could build a successful story arc around this

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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 5, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, is it just going to be a series of vignettes? What is the arc going to be? is it going to end with Brad Pitt exclaiming, “MY SHIT DON’T WORK IN THE PLAYOFFS!”

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by jponry on Aug 5, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

He needs to beat someone up or something

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by CB30 on Aug 5, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

The last scene will be a motivational, feel-good speech from Beane as Braden’s perfect game goes on in the background. and he doesn’t realize it

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Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 5, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be pretty funny.

I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

After Beane found out about the perfect game, do you suppose he immediately started plotting how to get the most value out of trading Braden?

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Aug 5, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 5, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

if this were true, he'd have traded Braden the very next day

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by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

And yet still wouldn’t have wound up with Yunel Escobar.

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Zaillian draft pulled it off. The movie covers the offseason starting with Giambi’s departure to the playoffs.

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m seriously hoping it ends with Beane saying that though.

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by jponry on Aug 5, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

His shit is not working in the regular season either.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 5, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

someone that hates Art Howe

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by j14 on Aug 5, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

A baseball movie? Better cast everyone fat!

by Greg! on Aug 5, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

o_O

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 5, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most importantly

Who was cast as JEREMY GIAMBI?

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 5, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great question. But they got Chris Pratt (“Parks & Recreation”!) for Hatteberg. That will be awesome.

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

What are the chances this movie is terrible?

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by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 5, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

1 out of 1

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by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well that guy does kinda look like Ron Washington

And Pitt was a pretty good choice for Beane.

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by GiantPain on Aug 5, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wonder if they did any lines together?

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by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

This has to be ’shopped. Either that or Pitt/Beane is shrugging oddly for some reason.

by non sequitur on Aug 5, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he’s leaning against the fence.

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by groug on Aug 5, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wearing umpire gear.

Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

by Cody_ransom on Aug 5, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently Brad and Angelina were spotted walking around in Danville yesterday

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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 5, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, that was just me...

….walking with Brad.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 5, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

HAWT!

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 5, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brad and Lars… Brars the Wanderer? I don’t know about that one

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Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona

by Useful_Idiot on Aug 5, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Travis!
AmalieBenjamin #RedSox would look at a LH first baseman, but won’t do anything immediately, Theo said. Will see how much Lowell can do.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 5, 2010 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

/Sabean crushes drinking glass with his bare hand.

Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

by Cody_ransom on Aug 5, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would be worried if Prado were playing

But he isn’t, so I’m not.

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Did we have the OMG ADAM DUNN discussion yet?

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry

by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 5, 2010 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

who?

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

unf unf unf

My Son, the best outfielder in the National League.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.

by GiantPain on Aug 5, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm with Grant on this one...

I HATE the Braves. They are my fourth most hated team. Dodgers, Yankees, A’s, Braves. I went to a Giants/Braves game at Mays Field in 2000. It was a bad sun day, and the left fielder totally let a can-o-corn pop up drop in front of him while he was still looking up and shading his eyes with his glove. I laughed. But I also wanted him to spontaneously combust like a vampire in the sun. The Braves can bit me. Take your racist-ass tomahawk chop and yank my noodle.

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 5, 2010 2:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Angels are next on my list.

I have a hard time HATING inconsequential teams. Of course, they did force us to cancel the 2002 WS, and I’d like to feed that rally monkey to a liger.

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 5, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Saying any of the things I’d like to do to the rally monkey would probably get me convicted of some crime.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 5, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually like the Cardinals.

They beat us in ‘87, or something right? I’ll leave the hating of the Cards to the Cubbies.

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 5, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

/rings_cowbell

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Aug 5, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or something?

Jose Fucking Oquendo hit a home run in the NLCS in 1987 and ruined an 8 year old’s day.

So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!

by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

/Ozzie Smith sucker puches Clark

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 5, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Forgot about that...

I knew there was a reason I hated Ozzie Smith.

So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!

by Giant Torture on Aug 5, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Understood!

Yea, I as a wee bit young. Only 6. I only remember one game that year and I was at it. I got my picture taken with Whitey Herzog, as well as a number of Giants like Jose Uribe and Bob Brenly. How come they don’t do picture days anymore?

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 5, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was 13. Stupid Oquendo. Stupid falling-down-losing-ball-in-lights-Candy-Maldonado

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't forget

Candy Maldonado’s sliding drop

by craigcommaroger on Aug 5, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah, I see you didn’t forget

by craigcommaroger on Aug 5, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could live with a split but I WANT MORE.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Aug 5, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is another 4 game series?

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry

by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 5, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I heard they made it an 8 game series so we don’t have to play yet another 4 game series.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 5, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like a good chance its us.

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry

by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 5, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably Philly or Colorado

Blocking move.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 5, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

My guess is Colorado

I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz

by CB30 on Aug 5, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope not.

That would suck if they got him.

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 5, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

/simultaneous gasp + sphincter tightening

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unknown team claims Dunn [can’t play defense]

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona

by Useful_Idiot on Aug 5, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course it is unknown. I’m sure many teams put through a claim, but only the first one on the list actually gets the claim.

Back on the market.

by positiveuphemism on Aug 5, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Token Braves defender

Living in this part of the South, the Braves are the team that’s on every night. I watched them reluctantly at first, but then grew to really like them. They’re a respectable group of guys and I can’t think of a single one (except journeyman Farnsworth) that I actively dislike.

It helps that the folks on Talking Chop are generally pleasant and fun to be around. It’s not a fanbase composed totally of assholes. I have fun on their GDT threads.

I want us to win. I want us to sweep. I want us to burn Atlanta to the ground. But I like the Braves. Especially that Brian McCann. I find him rather tasty.

I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 2:26 PM PDT reply actions  

There was one Braves fan who trolled here during the first series, but I think I remember another one that was pretty cool.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Aug 5, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, there’s always going to be one or two trying to paint the rest in a bad light (over at TC, it’s Mets and Phillies wags). But the regulars are spectacular people.

I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a cousin who’s a Braves fan but lives in SF. It’s likely the steady diet of TBS he received growing up.

by Natto on Aug 5, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

We don’t have DeRosa around to remind us of the Atlanta Braves’ secret menu, either.

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read somewhere about this effect

I heard the team most young players now playing grew up rooting for was the Braves

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 5, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

That described my brother for a long. He eventually came around as a full-time Giants fan, but he still likes the Braves.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Aug 5, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

While visiting some of my radio colleagues in Los Angeles, I ran into a Braves fan who grew up in southern California. His reason, though, was his little league team, which was called the Braves. It piqued his interest in the big-league club of the same name. Small world.

I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

I once played for the Pirates in little league. Glad that didn’t happen with me.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

My first little league team ever was the Dodgers.

That fucking sucked. Even at 6

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 5, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

We had no Giants and no Dodgers, presumably because everyone would want to be on the former and no one on the latter. I was on the Pirates, Rangers, Senators, and Yankees.

Then in Babe Ruth ball I was on Colonial Mortuary. Seriously.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet you had some stiff competition

I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz

by CB30 on Aug 5, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

At times we played like stiffs. Seriously, in the last game of the year not enough of our team showed up to field a lineup. We had to forfeit. I was pissed because it was my day to pitch.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 5, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t personally hate the Braves, I respect them for how good of a baseball team they’ve built for such a long period of time without going all Yankees/Red Sox on their payroll.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Aug 5, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Subject

Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.

by AXmrdrir on Aug 5, 2010 2:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Is General Sherman available on the waiver wire?

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 5, 2010 2:32 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

haha lol ha

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry

by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 5, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shift A

Are you sure Kawakami will not be pitching in this series? Miracle recall from AAA?

This should be a tough series, but should also be fun to watch.

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 2:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Ryan Howard to the DL

I guess he’ll miss our 8/17-8/19 series

by justhangin on Aug 5, 2010 2:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Faking it

Does not want to risk being thrown out by Nate.

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't the 15 day DL put him in line to come back that series?

Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on Aug 5, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

If they make it retroactive to when he last played it would.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 5, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's what I meant.

Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on Aug 5, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dammit, no, shut up
Jon Heyman SI_JonHeyman
  
got to think the #sfgiants could make sense for jose guillen, who was designated by the royals

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 2:37 PM PDT reply actions  

SI_JonHeyman
  
according to 1 exec, "no contender’’ should take jose guillen. personality/clubhouse rep may be 2nd worst to milton bradley

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not to mention

He sucks

I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz

by CB30 on Aug 5, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

And has less range than pat burrell.

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Aug 5, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously.

I was checking his stats around the deadline, and he looked a lot like Pete Feliz. Was wondering how that is supposed to constitute an improvement.

Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

by Cody_ransom on Aug 5, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I aint havin it.

"Its not so much me as it is Roenick, hes good" - Vince Vaughn

"Its not so much Kontos as it is me, I'm good." - Angryjay93

by angryjay93 on Aug 5, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

suck a great scene

Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 5, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

freudian slip

Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 5, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am with you on this.

Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 5, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jon Heyman SI_JonHeyman
  
got to think. I don’t do that enough.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Aug 5, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

herp derp

we noticed

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heyman is dumb. Water is wet.

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

SHIFTAAAAAAAAAAA

HEY GAYS!!! WHAT’S GOIN ON

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 2:37 PM PDT reply actions  

/glares

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Aug 5, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

awesome

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL IRL

I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I lol’d

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I needed some information from our bearings supplier

I was told to go to their website. I did a double take in entering the address.

http://www.fag.com/content.fag.de/en/index.jsp

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Aug 5, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s all ball bearings nowadays

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

they do make ball valves too.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Aug 5, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 of the three people in my department called in sick!

Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 5, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure how we're going to beat the Braves

They have 3 all stars + Larry at the top of the order.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Aug 5, 2010 2:40 PM PDT reply actions  

future ROY!

Jeaaaggaahh

by Soulbrother16 on Aug 5, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

we have scott and a batting champion

by shallow23 on Aug 5, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

more like LOL Stars

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL Infante

Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster

by Gobroks on Aug 5, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK

since I’m pretty sure nobody has corrected this, it was the Bourne SUPREMACY where he used the folded up magazine. Sheesh.

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team

by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Way to call him out

I personally like the battle with Clive Owen

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 5, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

all of those movies were even BETTER than the hype

which I couldn’t believe. They are fucking awesome.

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team

by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Supremacy was better than Ultimatum for me. The 3rd one felt a little bit like an episode of 24 (especially at the beginning, where Bourne had to get that guy through the train station to another destination by a certain time).

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

The train station scene was very well choreographed. It reminded me distantly of the mall chase scene with the balloon man in Minority Report.

by non sequitur on Aug 5, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think all three movies were well made, but that sequence in particular reminded me of 24. That’s probably more of a kudos to 24 for being able to produce a movie action sequence each week.

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do agree

the first 2 were the better ones, but to be able to carry the momentum for 5 years and make 3 super watchable movies is pretty amazing. Not too many trilogies do that.

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team

by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wooohoo

I’m going to a couple of these games, and need some delicious rips to throw out there.

by PocketfullofPoseys on Aug 5, 2010 2:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey, I’ll be there Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Give 'em hell, boys

and/or girls

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 5, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m looking forward to some gentle heckling. Nothing too harsh.

I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea, don't get kicked out.

Just be funny.

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 5, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Try this

“Hey Braves! You suck!”

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got kicked out of Qualcomm once for saying "SUCK"

I was stone sober, too. I personally don’t see what’s wrong with, “Hey Mike Darr!! You Suck!!”. Of course, he died, soooooo

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 5, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I won’t say that. I was thinking something more like, “Hey, don’t win!” or “Bobby Cox is kind of old!”

I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Your team is of a lesser quality than the Giants!”

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 5, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ooh. I like that one.

I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.theonion.com/articles/you-will-suffer-humiliation-when-the-sports-team-f,10804/

GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm

by groug on Aug 5, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love the Onion so much

I want this bracelet:

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

WOW

My aunt staunchly believes that Lance is not a cheater. I disagree

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 5, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you ain't cheatin', you aint't tryin'

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

This sounds like heckling at a Ren Fair

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 5, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

We needest a hurler of the ball

Not a knave who scratches his own abdomen!

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Winner

For real.

I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com

by troymccluresf on Aug 5, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was on that shoot

His funniest stuff never makes the roll on these shoots.

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 5, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet.

I’ve heard a few times that he’s a dick offstage, but quite honestly, I hear it so seldom, and it seems so completely out of character (and yes, I realize what I just said) that I don’t believe it for a second.

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com

by troymccluresf on Aug 5, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The first time someone told me about Conan O’Brien snorting cocaine at a party, my heart broke.

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never saw him snort...

But I had my suspicions, for sure. I mean, who grinds their teeth?!!

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 5, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh

Lots of people who aren’t on coke.

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com

by troymccluresf on Aug 5, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Besides mothers who suffer from panic attacks and Dostoyevsky protagonists?

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

weird

why would you care if he did coke?

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not 100% but there is a large correlation between total douchesacks and coke users.

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com

by troymccluresf on Aug 5, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm. I haven’t found that to be true.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have. And as all stat geeks know, the singular of anecdote = data.

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com

by troymccluresf on Aug 5, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

For me

It’s a general dislike of coke.

by Cheeeese! on Aug 5, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the Bill Maher quip: Lots of people still do coke—they just don’t share anymore.

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Aug 5, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I’m just anti-drugs. I don’t like them. It colors my view of those who use them. I was 19, I didn’t think there was anything to Conan O’Brien other than him being hilarious and from Harvard. That was just a seedy side I didn’t want to know about. That’s all.

Sure, in LA, coke users are almost always douches, but that wasn’t my thinking in terms of the Conan thing.

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, in LA, coke users people are almost always douches, but that wasn’t my thinking in terms of the Conan thing.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m the same way.

I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

no coke

Pepsi

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

NO FRIES

CHIPS

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 5, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

NO EGGS

CHEESEBURGER

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

NO BREAKFAST.

CHEESEBURGER.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 5, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

NO CHEESEBURGER

Fuck the duck until exploded

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by jctGamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 5, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's totally a dick...

Condescending, arrogant, and self-absorbed… But he’s so goddamn funny that I don’t let that affect how I view his work. Kind of like Lamar Bonds. Not a nice guy. Wins baseball games for my team.

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 5, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

YOU ASS

I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz

by CB30 on Aug 5, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heeeeeeeeeey opposing player who is up to bat…… attempt to strike the ball with your bat!

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

“I call into question your ability to throw that spherical object accurately”

by Cheeeese! on Aug 5, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey team that plays baseball in the Atlanta area: You create a vacuum!

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

you can have that one.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

NO THE DUCKS :(

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by jctGamer on Aug 5, 2010 2:46 PM PDT reply actions  

How come Giada never prepares that dish?

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 5, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

omg hilarious

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

IRL LOL

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 5, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

.

also this

Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.

by AXmrdrir on Aug 5, 2010 2:47 PM PDT reply actions  

UPS SUCKS ASS

5:00 AND STILL NO SIGN OF THE BASTARDS

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 2:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah! I’m waiting for them too, and it’s nearly 6 here!

by Evan on Aug 5, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I work for fedex

latest we deliver? FOUR FUCKING THIRTY. Get your shit together, brownies.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a little pissed my Posey shirt hasn’t arrived. How else am I supposed to go to Turner Field and make them feel inadequate?

I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kharma...

If a delivery man delays your Posey shipment, he will contract herpes.

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 5, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can only hope this is true.

I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just remind them of jayson Keywards 0 for 4 4 strike out peformance at the AT&T opener when everyone was calling him “the new say hey kid”.

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Aug 5, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

heyward is fucking awesome

the mays crap was BS. But the dude is awesome.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

What saddens me is that he’ll probably place ahead of BUSTER in the NL rookie of the year voting.

This makes me angry.

by Cheeeese! on Aug 5, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

well...

he’s been pretty awesome for longer. It’ll depend on the last 2 months.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not saying

That he wouldn’t deserve it. I would just prefer Po Po to win.

/ducks

by Cheeeese! on Aug 5, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

me too

but if it’s heyward, I won’t be too pissed. I like him. Other than playing for the braves (which he can’t control), there’s not much to not like about the guy

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

So if you miss your delivery time it’s wait until tomorrow?

Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 5, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just turned on mlb network and batting pratice live was on

They went to the brian wilson feed which show cased him shirtless in his orange cleets throwing around a Frisbee in the stands with cainer LOL GIANTS.

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Aug 5, 2010 2:59 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

What kind of bizarre hippie commune/SF loft living clusterfuckery is this?!

by Every6thDay on Aug 5, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shirtless Brian?

/stunned silence for 90 minutes

I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty much this.

I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 5, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure I want to see a shirtless Dubs.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 5, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

FAP

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

This sounds hilarious.

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

They went on to show cain and wilson all over the field throwing the frisbee and going through the stands. Mitch williams got a kick out of it and kept saying “that guy is crazy, no wonder he’s such a good closer”.

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Aug 5, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's the status of D-Train?

Anyone know if he’s worth a damn, yet?

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 5, 2010 3:03 PM PDT reply actions  

He walked 100% of the batters he faced yesterday.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm

by groug on Aug 5, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

One more outing in Arizona rookie league, then on to AAA if all goes well. (per Baggs this AM)

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Aug 5, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Free Pepto Bismol to the first 20,000 fans

Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 5, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

GIMME YOUR TOTS

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

tater tots (or potato puffs, whichever) are so good.

maybe i’ll go to Metro at haight and fillmore and get some later.

Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 5, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

wait, what’s Metro? I used to live at Haight and Buchanan. Is Cafe International still there?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes it is.

And Metro is a pretty awesome burger hole-in-the-wall on Fillmore.

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com

by troymccluresf on Aug 5, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh wait I remember that. never mind. LOL

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Memory Lane

and the Rosamunde Sausage Grill? And the Toronado?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Toronado will never die., In fact, its 23rd anniversary is on the 14th.

Rosamunde’s still there, and they opened their own joint on Mission @ 24th (also with good beer).

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com

by troymccluresf on Aug 5, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

both actually, but it was even better when Rosamunde opened and you could grab a sausage and take it next door to the Toronado

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tis a glorious twosome.

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com

by troymccluresf on Aug 5, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

TW..S.. oh fuck it

Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 5, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Twitter went down about 30 min ago

There hasn’t been any update on mlbtr since then. lol.

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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Boo Twitter.

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn it

I wanted to check Conan O’Brien’s Twitter to see if he’d responded to the allegations in this thread yet.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm

by groug on Aug 5, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s too self-absorbed to read McCC

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dammit/

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 5, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

So KNBR was reporting that “somebody” has claimed Dunn off of waivers…

Don't get it?
Try FAQ or FAQII

by Merope on Aug 5, 2010 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Morosi said that 4 hrs ago, dunno who, likely Colorado.

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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh FFS

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

doubt it was us

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Aug 5, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I really don’t think it was.

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean, if I was Morosi, I would have said the same thing this morning (it’s the last day to claim him). There is 0% chance he goes through unclaimed, so why not make it look like I have connections?

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by jctGamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

can someone explain to me how this works?

Washington didn’t release him did they?

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

nah, it’s kinda like they are dangling bait….

Don't get it?
Try FAQ or FAQII

by Merope on Aug 5, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, nearly every player gets put on waivers

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Aug 5, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

so then what happens if he's claimed?

you just work out a trade like before the deadline?

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

You pull him back or work out a trade or dump him and his salary.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm

by groug on Aug 5, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can do a trade regularly with players who also clear waivers or PTBNL

Or do a salary dump a la Alex Rios. Or just pull the player back

I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz

by CB30 on Aug 5, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

They put him on waivers, which allows any team to claim him, and the team with the worst record that puts in a claim gets him. Sort of. DC can try to work out a trade with the claiming team, and if they can’t, they just take him off waivers. Tons of guys are put on waivers every year. It’s likely the Giants put guys like Rowand on waivers just to see if someone will claim him. Of course, with Rowand, they would just let the claiming team have him (and have to pay his salary).

That happened with Jose Canseco years ago – the Rays put him on waivers, the Yankees claimed him, and the Rays just let the Yankees have a player they didn’t want. They just claimed him to block another team – probably Red Sox? And the Rays said good riddance, you can have him.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

innnteresting

seems pretty stupid that you can just say “nevermind, we were just kidding”. I think you should be penalized if you put a guy on waivers then pull him back after someone claims him. I guess that’s what “irrevocable waivers” are?

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, if you pull him back, then put him out there again and he gets claimed again, that’s irrevocable and he’ll be off your team.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm

by groug on Aug 5, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

That makes sense

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

The “just kidding” part is so that teams can see if other teams are interested in their players, to maybe help out the trade process in the offseason

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Aug 5, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, I get that

but it just seems like you shouldn’t be able to do that.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, I think its good for the overall process. You aren’t really fleecing anyone, just seeing how valuable your guys are

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Aug 5, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

it makes sense for the teams to do it

just seems weird to me. Like some sort of advantage you shouldn’t have. Almost like being able to see the other guys’ cards in poker or something

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, that’s true if you’re operating from the principle that it’s good for the game for some teams to rip other teams off in trades. But if you (as some sort of worker for baseball’s commissioner or whatever) want a team to get fair value – which you generally do so that there are more good teams and more good game and more fan interest – then it makes a whole bunch of sense.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm

by groug on Aug 5, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

good point

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Strange coincidence seeing Pauline Kael’s name up top. Just this morning killin time I picked up one of her books off the shelf for the first time in years. Opened to a random page in which she was rationalizing her love/hate for Heaven Can Wait (a movie I remember fondly from childhood, btw) by saying something like “Elaine May’s one-liners are like wobbly cannonballs; you never know which one’s going to hit its target.” I closed the book. I think I’m done with Kael and the Kaelites for a while.

by Duelling Brandos on Aug 5, 2010 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I think i’d like to chat with you about film.

I do like Kael, though, in general.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

GTFO

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

nope

he’s (she’s?) right. It was OK but huge dropoff from the first.

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's just, like, your opinion man

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

and, like, most people's, DUDE

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by bondslegend on Aug 5, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not your dude, bro

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to love Kael—I literally have every book. And I am suspicious of grovelling auteurists sometimes, as she always is. I just can’t her weird biases—the De Palma worship, the Kubrick hatred, and the insistence that Herman Mankiewicz is responsible for the greatness of Citizen Kane, to cite three major examples.

by Duelling Brandos on Aug 5, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, now I know I’d like to chat with you about film.

DePalma: hack
Kubrick: profoundly flawed genius
Mankiewicz: well, Kael’s schoarship there is slipshod, at best.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

She did get me into a lot of good films when I was impressionable and in college, so I’ll give her credit for that. I think her take on Altman is still pretty definitive.

by Duelling Brandos on Aug 5, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

And how about the wierd

late life obsession with Sam Peckinpah? Did they have an affair or something? Must have.

The De Palma focus was also strange. Not a hack, but not any kind of genius.

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Aug 5, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Peckinpah

I’m not a fanboy or anything but I think we have him to thank (blame?) as the forefather of the modern action movie. Stuff like Stagecoach was way more dynamic and violent than anything else out at the time. That dynamism sets him apart from his contemporaries, atmo

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stagecoach?

You’re thinking of John Ford, which is a different discussion indeed.

I like Peck, who came from my hometown, and he certainly the dynamism and violence in the Western. But Kael wrote a long fawning piece on him in I Lost It at the Movies. Places him above Ford and at the head of nouveau, which just ain’t right, atmo.

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Aug 5, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know the piece, but Peckinpah’s far above Ford in my personal pantheon. Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid is in my all-time top ten.

by Evan on Aug 5, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

2001 or Clockwork Orange

depending on the day. The Shining is also fucking amazing.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

shining!!

Have you read the book. He took all action out. Very disappointing!

by iloveddickdietz on Aug 5, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

don't care

The film stands on its own. He created one of the most harrowing and creepy films ever.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

really

The house blowsup, animals in the hedges and everybody dies!! Jack saved the film imo

by iloveddickdietz on Aug 5, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

He also smashes his own face with a mallet at the end of the book and then blood explodes throughout the hotel (right? it’s been 21 years since i’ve read it)

Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 5, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

right

We were so upset he missed all the great scenes

by iloveddickdietz on Aug 5, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, guys,

Paths of Glory.

Maybe Strangelove.

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Aug 5, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

So he took the batshit crazy out of the Stephen King?

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Aug 5, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah Shining for sure. 2001 is pretty great too but (I know I’ll get shit for this) I sorta like 2010 better (not Kubrick obviously)

Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 5, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really need to see 2010. Watching Lithgow not making a joke out of himself? That will be a first for me!

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Aug 5, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lately it's been Barry Lyndon

But I’m sure few would share that opinion. 2001 is pretty much as good as total cinema gets. I like all of them up through The Shining. I haven’t seen Full Metal Jacket since it came out, and am thinking it’s probably about time, since I had unresolved thoughts on it.

by Duelling Brandos on Aug 5, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just watched Solaris and 2001 back to back recently. That was pretty eye-opening right there.

Ashamed to say I’ve never seen Barry Lyndon.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I recently saw a youtube clip of Brian Eno from some 1980s BBC chat show on movies in which he went on at length about how Barry Lyndon is far and away his favorite film ever. That made me perk up a little.

by Duelling Brandos on Aug 5, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, Eno is a freaky demigod of a genius in any case.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

So true

A sampling of Eno projects from 1975-1980

Eno – Another Green World
Fripp & Eno – Evening Star
Eno – Discreet Music
David Bowie – Low
Eno – Before & After Science
David Bowie – Heroes
Devo – Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo!
Talking Heads – More Songs About Buildings and Food
David Bowie – Lodger
Talking Heads – Fear of Music
Byrne & Eno – My Life in the Bush of Ghosts
Talking Heads – Remain in Light

Whoah.

by taliesin on Aug 5, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think album titles get much better than More Songs About Buildings and Food

GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm

by groug on Aug 5, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

SOLARIS

I really liked it.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Aug 5, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

fucking awesome

let’s take the Tarkovsky talk over to the GDT

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I need someone to push me into seeing Andrei Rublev. It’s been on my to-see list for at least a decade now and it’s never really moved to the front of the line. Anyone seen it?

by Duelling Brandos on Aug 5, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is awesome. But you really have to be in the right mood for it.

by Evan on Aug 5, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve only seen the Clooney remake, sadly.

by Duelling Brandos on Aug 5, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOLYOU

I will not be watching that.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Aug 5, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh damn I forgot all about Full Metal Jacket. That was my #1 favorite movie for 10 years straight after it came out (that, and Jacob’s Ladder)

Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 5, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

this

plus the with Kirk Douglas Paths of glory!!

by iloveddickdietz on Aug 5, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brandos makes

a vote for Barry Lyndon. Hmmmm.

/looks around for others . . . ./

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Aug 5, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I HATE Barry Lyndon

It’s a 3 hour movie with a character who is boring as hell and a wishy-washy noble. And then the only guy that opposes him, is selfish and even more annoying than he is, so you just hate all the characters. Okay, the first half was somewhat interesting with the war scenes, but the rest was just some stuffy aristocratic crap that I couldn’t care less about.

That said, I love Dr. Strangelove. One of my favorite movies ever – it makes me laugh every time. Peter Sellers is a genius.

American Heroes: Joe Pavelski, Buster Posey, David Backes
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages

by mymclife on Aug 5, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I love Strangelove too, and Lolita, and Paths, ad infinitum. My Barry Lyndon fetish has to do with how it avoids or totally transcends so many of the issues with costume pictures. The incredible candlelight filming, the slow movements through the English gardens, the ridiculous costumes. Compare with (for example) Marie Antoinette, set in the same period and unwilling to engage in it in any but the most superficial manner.

Maybe to bring this thread totally full circle, I think it was because Kael hated Lyndon so much that I avoided it until I was around 30, then I wondered why I had ever thought that “kickiness” or “fizz” (or whatever her adjective was) was an important criterion for judging a film.

by Duelling Brandos on Aug 5, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who cares about Dunn and Guillen, here is todays news.

Brian Bocock is BACK in the majors, Philly is LOADED!!!

"Its not so much me as it is Roenick, hes good" - Vince Vaughn

"Its not so much Kontos as it is me, I'm good." - Angryjay93

by angryjay93 on Aug 5, 2010 3:18 PM PDT reply actions  

and Cody Random got DFA’d

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAH

Bocock replaced Cody Ransom? That’s hilarious.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t the opposite happen at one point?

by Natto on Aug 5, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

GET CODY RANSOM AND THATS 2 BIG BATS FOR THE PRICE OF ONE PITCHER!!!

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Aug 5, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

ZOMG

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Got his stroke back?

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Aug 5, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

SBN is crashy for me today

I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz

by CB30 on Aug 5, 2010 3:24 PM PDT reply actions  

PO PO v. J HEY

/Media’d

I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz

by CB30 on Aug 5, 2010 3:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I may have a kneejerk reaction to stab anyone that calls Buster PoPo in a serious tone.

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t find any tumblrs that the extreme fangirls run, then.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 5, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only tumblers I care about hold juice.

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

In that case, don’t find the twitters the extreme fangirls run. I’m still trying not to shin kick the people who call Tim “Lincy.”

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 5, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I only follow twitter for baseball news, some comedy, and people here.

I do not go actively searching out in the Twitter world, seems like too scary a place.

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

The thing is, they find you.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 5, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

OH GOD

/locks door

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

THEY’LL TWEET AT YOU WHETHER YOU WANT THEM TO OR NOT.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 5, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I AINT HAVIN IT

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

For as much of a reputation as a crazy stalker as I have over here, you have to admit that I don’t follow you on twitter.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Aug 5, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

True.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 5, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sentences like that confuse me. The internet the most ungodly porn and violence ever imagined by humanity and Twitter scares you?

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com

by troymccluresf on Aug 5, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

The intenet for the most part you have to search through to find what you want.

Twitter tries to bring it to you.

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

In what sense? You don’t auto-follow anyone. Anything you see on Twitter is because you went to it. You can even turn off retweets.

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com

by troymccluresf on Aug 5, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Twitter reccomends thing.

I always ignore it, but they are trying nonetheless.

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s not even rolled out to everyone yet!

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com

by troymccluresf on Aug 5, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

HI NEW TWITTER FRIEND!

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

HI TWITTER PAL!

/high five

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

/high five

"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."

by djp4cal on Aug 5, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some chick behind us at a game kept yelling about how awesome “Ro-Ro” was. (Hint: not Ryan Rohlinger.)

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com

by troymccluresf on Aug 5, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

OH MY GAHD IF THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT ROWAND…

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 5, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

:points to nose:

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com

by troymccluresf on Aug 5, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, there’s your nose.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm

by groug on Aug 5, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

hey man

shitty players need love too

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

But “Ro-Ro?”

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 5, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

ehh.

These are the same people who like Justin Bieber. Don’t dwell on it.

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meh, yeah. But I’m still gonna LOL at that nickname.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 5, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

You could take the high road

and call him Ro-Ro-Fight-The-Powah

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Aug 5, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL, okay, that’s a good one.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 5, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

...your boat"

like the song. Duh.

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Aug 5, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

and my girlfriend wonders why I shout violent things at the world

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

THAT'S BECAUSE THE FANS COME TO SEE US GO ALL OUT!!

Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 5, 2010 3:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Has anyone yet shouted

BEAT atLA?

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Aug 5, 2010 3:32 PM PDT reply actions  

i said it earlier

but it was at normal conversational volume

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 5, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh

didn’t hear you.

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Aug 5, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

He also blew it in every big game he pitched in his career so intelligence is not his forte.

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Aug 5, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gamethread's up.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 5, 2010 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

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