Post-game thread: What in the absolute hell was that?
The Diamondbacks scored six runs in the first inning, four because of the general wretchedness of Barry Zito and two because of a horrific error from Jose Guillen. It was a bad start.
After the semi-magic in the Reds series, though, it wasn't outlandish to hold out a little bit of hope. The Giants, down by five at the time, loaded the bases with one out. Barry Zito came up to the plate, and even the most cynical Giants fan out there thought, "OK, if Zito gets a hit, this game will get interesting again."
Zito hit the hardest ball he's ever hit as a Giant. There's no way he's hit a ball harder than that in the past four years. It, of course, went right to the second baseman, who doubled Uribe off second.
That's just how spectacularly awful this game was. It was a cornucopia of awful. It was poorly played, and the Giants couldn't find any more luck than they deserved. It was the kind of game that makes you want to forget about baseball for six or seven months, except that somehow the Giants are still fairly close to a playoff spot. Looking this poor against the Diamondbacks should automatically disqualify a team, but here the Giants are. Contenders.
You just watched a contending team. I'm sure you're just filled with confidence. Here's hoping the Giants won't get swept at home by a lousy team.
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routine fly, dropped
guillen camped under
end of days.
Proper?
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds good. No idea if it’s proper or not. I’ve heard it’s 5-7-5 for syllables, but I’ve also heard it’s not an exact measure because Japanese is very different.
Now I want to try.
Hope of relief
Drifting in a summer breeze
Routine fly, dropped.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
2nd line seems to have too many syllables. B- for effort (because I can’t find the plus key)
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
hope of relief
whipping summer breeze
routine fly, dropped
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
The ball hits the grass,
Many runners advance, So,
Please give back # 6
by Talkin_Base_Ball on Aug 28, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
…and the Rolex at last.
It’s not a haiku, but it rhymes
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
In fairness to Guillen . . .
. . . on the next play, FSanchez, who generally catches things, especially easy things, almost dropped a popup to shallow right. As the game went on, it became clear that there were wind gusts creating problems on “routine” fly balls and, especially, popups. I suspect that had that play come later in the game, Guillen would have been more alert about “a routine popup” in park-of-many-names.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
There is no fairness to Guillen
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
there is no “in fairness” to guillen. unworthy
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I like hating Guillen
I like having reasons to hate Guillen.
This is an insanely easy reason to continue hating Guillen
Therefore I will have no sympathy for him.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
you think management actually hears the rumblings from the fans about certain players?
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sure they do
But it would take a lot from fans to make decisions. I mean for how long were people complaining about Scott before they finally benched him. And even now he got in before Ross or Schierholtz. It’s ridiculous. I’m sure they hear and I’m sure they just think that it’s just a few fans who will never be happy with what they do. Also it takes a lot for them to admit they made a mistake.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Need group think to take over!
But then there’s people like hokys that make Sabean think he’s doing a good job.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
I have a lot of trouble
Believing that hokys really believes the shit he says. I’m 99% sure he just says shit just to get a rise out of people.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Probably
But if Sabean saw it he would be like “YEAH!!!”
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
LOL!
I just imagined him like high fiving Susan and looking around with this wild excitement in his eyes.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
i think Scott got in because the game had gotten out of hand and, just like little league, bork has to play everyone or some parent will complain. this was the least leveraged situation to put him in.
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
But he doesn’t deserve playing time over Ross or Nate. It’s just his way of playing his guys over the new guy/young guy.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
His point is right though
You have to play guys eventually. And a blowout game is the best situation for Scott.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
why bother? at least i won’t have to worry about looking at the lineup in the AM, Ross will be starting. Nate never starts, Scott got his 3 innings/week quota in, and Guillen embarassed himself and the team pretty badly. I would be completely shocked if Bork started him. Completely shocked.
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, if nothing else, . . .
. . . you’re certainly in the mainstream hereabouts.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Though it must be said that part of the reason why Guillen flubbed that play so spectacularly was that he had only just gotten to the general vicinity of the ball when it came down. Most right fielders would have gotten there a lot faster. He had barely a moment to adjust once he’d reached where the ball was coming down.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Also he fucking sucks.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
IIR, on a previous play in that 1st inning,
Guillen did a complete 360 pirouette, before making a fairly routine catch.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
Yeah, I remember that as well.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
you didn't hear?
Guillen is trying out for this year’s production of “The Nutcracker” at the San Francisco Ballet. his audition was tonight ……
…… which explains the pirouette and the distracted dropped ball.
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 28, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah, more evidence that he is assgarbage
Which, I realize was your point.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
I said it before and will say it again- I will honestly be shocked, completely shocked, if he starts anytime soon.
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
The fact that he was taken out in the 4th was encouraging. I really hope to see Ross in the lineup tomorrow. I think he’s certainly the 3rd best OF on the team right now.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
No doubt
I gotta feel for Ish right now. He was playing decently enough and he gets sent back to Nate-land in order to make room for this bum.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
while I feel you about Ish, he was hitting .200 the last month he was in everyday.
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
hate to say it, but Ishs’ value is really as a PH and late-inning DF replacement. You know it, and I know it. He doesn’t hit near well enough for a starting 1B.
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course
But he’s also better than Jose Guillen.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
my dog catches fly balls better than that loser. no, seriously. I’ll show you at Dog Night.
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
My basset
catches treats almost as well as Andres Torres catches fly balls.
But I don’t think he’d suit up in a Giants uniform.
And I wish Amy G. wasn’t married.
Rooting for the Yankees is like cheering the tanks at Tianamen Square.
oh, by far. nate can’t hit (those doubles were a heat-related abberation). Scott, well, that doesn’t need to be explained. And Ross is an excellent defender with a great arm, great speed, and a great bat having a down year (he’s a .280/25hr guy)
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Nate can't hit well
But I’m sure he’s not a .240 hitter or whatever he is. His defense makes him incredibly valuable, not a corner OF with that bat, but an OF of Ross LF Torres CF Nate RF would be pretty fucking sweet defensively and decent offensively. I wouldn’t mind Burrell though I’d prefer he PH bc of defense but if Burrell Played LF until we had a lead and Ross RF and then move to LF and have Nate in RF in late innings, that’d be great.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
I think the last time we did such a scenario, we ended up taking out our most productive hitter of the game and the bullpen blew the lead and we went to extras.
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
hence, burrells spot came up with runners on and it was nate, iirc
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually
It was Torres, so it wasn’t really a problem.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
you’re thinking of the Marlins game, right? The ground-rule single, Torres was PH in Pats spot, I was thinking of the COL game in July. Posey was taken out of that game as well as Burrell, IIRC
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
either way, it seems to have happened a whole lot this year, it seems. i would look it up but im not motivated enough, lol
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
The Colorado game
Burrell played the whole time I’m pretty sure, or he came in as a PH. I remember him batting after Whiteside in the 11th or whatever.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
I’d only be taking out Pat (considering his spot in the order) in a double switch. That way, I don’t lose his 5 spot to his light-hitting replacement, instead the replacement takes the 9 spot and I can PH whoever in the 5 hole.
Just like the Marlins game. That was well-managed.
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
infact, Guillen should be the 5 hole PH when double switch DF replacements come in. Though that is Ishs’ role, however
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Nate > Jose Guillen
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
??? > Jose Guillen
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
This is true
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
marsupial > jose guillen.
“I’ll just catch it in my pouch, bitch”
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
^ lol. oh how i love this line of mine
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Step 3, profit.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
But in all seriosness
I do like Burrell, he has good AB’s but his defenes worries me because of his LOL RANGE
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
spelling fail
seriousness
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Bochy had a good thing going
When he would give him a good 3 or 4 PA and then take him out if the Giants had a lead. He’s definitely not a problem and he’s provided much needed value.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
burrell has honestly surprised me in terms of his defense. it was billed as bad, and its really not bad at all. he seems to make most plays (wed CIN game still got there, just didnt catch it)
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone said it best. Almost all big leaguers are good defensively, it’s just that he’s well above average compared to the rest of the league.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
there’s a difference between defense and range, though. you can be a gold-glove caliber guy and have almost no range.
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh
You can be a Gold Glove guy and be Rafael Palmeiro too.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
uh
I guess you could win a gold-glove with no range, but that won’t mean you’ll deserve it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
lol Kemp?
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
No, there isn't
Sure, people quantify that way. But why would range NOT matter in a defensive evaluation?
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
If you catch
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
that’s not the point i was making. a gold glove guy doesnt make errors, b/c he doesnt put himself in position to make those errors due to lack of range.
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I meant, if you are a catcher
But a GG-caliber guy (not a GG guy, mind you, since they seem to screw up a few of those choices big time every year) must have great range
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
hence, a good defensive player must have a good UZR rating as well, or his “defense” is moot
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
A good defensive player must have good range to have a good UZR
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
definetly. some people tend to just throw out “defense” as a loose term, as in “he doesnt make errors”. true defense makes plays others cant make.
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions
You’ve made a complete reversal from what you first said, or at least it looks that way.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
blah, ive been bouncing between 20 diff topics the last half hour. ive totally lost my train of thought on this one. after re-reading, i dont think i was trying to side one way or another, but rather just make a point. which i forget what it was now.
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Happens
I’ve found myself arguing both sides of an argument before. Usually drunk though.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
someones gotta be their own devils advocate, lol
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I can’t believe our management team is so fucking retarded they actually have to see someone suck complete ass for their team before they’ll believe it.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
He’s going to start tomorrow.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 28, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Starting today!
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Aug 29, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I ask All of You, Could you play RF at AT&T with 1 leg ?
I rest my case.
by Talkin_Base_Ball on Aug 28, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Counter-question:
Would you be stupid enough to put a one-legged man in RF if you were in charge?
I don’t blame Guillen’s suckage on him as much as I do on Giants management for 1) Acquiring the Royals-castoff-turd to begin with, 2) Slotting him blindly in RF (RF!!!) and 3) Leaving better players on the bench.
It was also Franchez's first error since Sept. 2009
Doesn’t excuse it, but it points to how he’s not usually the defensive problem, and it happened tonight of all nights.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Franchez’ glove is the VERY LAST thing I am worried about
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
truth.
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 28, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s made two errors in two games hasn’t he?
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
and probably won’t for the remainder of the season. luck doesn’t ask what works best for you
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
or should i say skill, is his case. it strikes when it strikes, and you move on.
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
his errors have also come down by 8+ runs, so maybe he wasn’t as focused. i dunno
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Dropped a fly ball. Huff/Schierholtz/Ross/Torres make that catch in their sleep.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Every major leaguer makes that catch. I make that catch 99.9% of the time.
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 28, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
yep
pretty sure i could catch that one
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by sadison bummedgarner on Aug 28, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but you’re a scrappy can-do 2B/UTIL player. You wouldn’t be anywhere close to RF for that plate.
Ask me about my blog.
You'd be surprised
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
The thing is, it happened.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Two outs, Zito’s had a miserable, four-run inning, and he gets a lazy pop-up. Guillen camps under it, and just clanks it.
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 28, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
your logic is sound
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by sadison bummedgarner on Aug 28, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll pile on with the Guillen hate. I’m pretty tired of the Giants’ announcers talking about his ‘quick bat’ etc. He shouldn’t be starting in any fashion. For god-sakes, we’re a semi-contender and we’re playing a Royals castoff.
Ask me about my blog.
This.
someone said in the GDT, one mans trash is another mans trash
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
but Tampa isn’t trash. that’s the point
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
He was trash in Tampa
That IS the point.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
i thought the point was that a trashy teams trash is our trash
that would exclude Burrell. For a team as good as Tampa, we’ll take their trash as mediocre. For a team as bad as KC, well, that’s just trashy trash
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
They were saying
That pretty much Burrell was considered trash by Tampa but we took him anyways and for the most part it worked out fine.
Guillen was considered trash by Kansas City and is trash now and it has not worked out.
But people were justifying that hey Burrell worked out so could Guillen when in many cases trash is trash.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
It was mainly chasm
But to be fair, Burrell has actually been good once in his career. Guillen, not so much.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Google search
Sarchasm and look at the second picture.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Yeah
I just think he has been good but not great. I guess I don’t mind him starting but I just get nervous about his defense in LF. I hate Guillen starting I mean we have an OF defense of Burrell/Torres/Guillen.
Holy shit that’s horrible.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
but one’s definition of trash is based upon the overall level of talent on their team. Tampa has a high level of talent, so their trash is really mediocre. KC has a very low level of talent, so their trash is just absolute trash.
I think i still know what I’m talking about, lol. I might have lost it somewhere
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Pat Burrell
Was pretty fucking terrible in TB
.221/.315/.351 with an OPS of .682 and -0.5 WAR
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
I would like that
… he’s our good luck charm ….right? right?
"Giants baseball...torture." - Duane Kuiper
by busterbuster on Aug 28, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
The Padres lost
I’m increasingly convinced that the wildcard team will end up with more wins than the Padres – I think there’s one route to the playoffs, and it’s the 7 games we have remaining against the Padres.
Other side
I’m increasingly convinced this team doesn’t have what it takes to win the division. I’m figuring on a wild card tease through most of September, but not enough to get it done.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
by achiappanza on Aug 28, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Where is the Spoiler alert?
/ sighs, nods hands beverrage.
Not to harsh what might be someone’s first Giants pennant race, I been in this camp since the beginning of July, and at least this time they have been making it interesting unlike last Aug and Sept. I am not proud of it but it is what it is.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
Sigh
That game was shit. I can’t believe I watched the whole thing.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
After you watch a few of these,
you learn to stop watching earlier on. And by earlier, I mean the top of the 1st inning early.
"Giants baseball...torture." - Duane Kuiper
by busterbuster on Aug 28, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugh.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 28, 2010 9:07 PM PDT reply actions
Ugh.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Ugh
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Ugh.
"Giants baseball...torture." - Duane Kuiper
by busterbuster on Aug 28, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugh
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Ugh.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Ugh.
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 28, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
next person to not say ugh doesnt not gets an ice cream cone.
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugh
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
i dont know if you get ice cream or not. cant comprehend my multiple double negatives
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugh
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
tell me about it. Ugh
hopefully tomorrow will be “hooray!!!”
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
IAWTC
Looking this poor against the Diamondbacks should automatically disqualify a team
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
in that case, the Phillies should be double DQ’d for this year AND next for their effort v the ’Stros
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
But that doesn’t support my argument of “I hate baseball right now.”
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Wait
Maybe it does. The Phillies just got swept by the Astros at home and I feel like we somehow lost ground during that.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
i dont think we lost any ground overall. 1.5 out as of right now, right? we were 2.5 out after playing PHI
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
OT:come on BJ Penn!
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by sadison bummedgarner on Aug 28, 2010 9:08 PM PDT reply actions
This was a game . . .
. . . God did not mean for the Giants to win.
Zito did not pitch well, but that ball down the 3rd-base line was just silly off a pretty good pitch. Moreover, with a different home-plate umpire, Zito is probably out of the inning with minimal damage. And a vagrant puff of wind costs yet two more runs. With the bases loaded, Zito hits what was, for him, a rocket, right at someone—who then gets a free gift of an inning-ending out that wasn’t, which otherwise would have left the bases loaded for one of the better hitters in the game right now. And it just went on from there, on and on and on . . .
The Giants assuredly did not play well in this game, but nowhere near as badly as the final score suggests.
P.S.: Am I the only soul alive who would have pinch-hit for Zito?
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Probably not
But I understand the logic in that we only have 6 men in the bullpen (that’s really working out well by the way), and they’ve been used a lot lately.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
And I understand the logic in that, but . . .
. . . this is supposed to be a stretch drive. Play today’s game today and tomorrow’s game tomorrow.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Problem is, tomorrow's game will probably be like today's game...
they’ve been giving it up waaaay too much, too easily of late.
win what you can now, whatever it takes, and deal with the repurcussions tomorrow. And tomorrow, hopefully it evens out with a strong outing. Bork waves his white flag far too early
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
The pitching is just awful.
Basically, top to bottom. The Giants are dead in the water until the starters at least fake it as league average.
Ramirez and Lopez both looked pretty excellent tonight. I’m very happy with Lopez. But our starting pitching has become all but putrid at this point.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
As ugly as things have been this is what happens even to great staffs towards the end of August. Let usremember the team has had 2 long strings of games with trips to Dever in the middle , or before, of those stretchs. they have have soemthing like 17 games in very pro ofense yards since July 1, and outside of the All Star break, something like 3 dys off. That will made hamburger out of a lot of arms.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
this deep in the year, i might just have PH for Zito there, with Ross, let the ‘pen take the hit, rosters expand in a few days so tell the staff they have to go deep or it’s “your ass”
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I always think how awesome it would be to be an announcer
Except, I know Kuip is absolutely miserable right now.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
THIS IS ALL KRUKOW’S FAULT FOR EVEN THINKING IT WAS OK TO GO SEE HIS NEW GRANDCHILD.
So goddamn selfish these days.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Now
that’s a bit harsh…..
"Giants baseball...torture." - Duane Kuiper
by busterbuster on Aug 28, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
You Sir, have fallen in.

"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
No
I knew it was sarcasm. I’m just trying to find the good in this all…
"Giants baseball...torture." - Duane Kuiper
by busterbuster on Aug 28, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh
Ramirez was decent. Better than I expected.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
another one bites the dust .....
….. and another one gone, and another one gone …..
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 28, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Radio waves can mess with your head, no doubt. I mean how many times can you hear about how Willy Mays told FP to keep his feet moving in the OF?
by Talkin_Base_Ball on Aug 28, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
One thing to keep in mind: the team ahead of the Giants for the wild card were just swept in a four-game series against the Astros. So there’s a lot of awful to go around in this wild card chase, at least.
That said, this was rough. The feeling that this could be the beginning of the end is creeping in more and more. I know this is an over-reaction to these last two games (or an appropriate reaction to these last two weeks?), but loses like this are so deflating.
11-14 in August
The Giants need to win out the rest of the month to head into the stretch drive with some momentum. Also, they need to win the rest of the month because they have a brutal 10-game road trip through the division coming up.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
so Zito is the first starting pitcher to lose 3 games in a 6 game span since…?
by TimLaser and MattyC on Aug 28, 2010 9:19 PM PDT reply actions
somehow
“sin” works well here
"Giants baseball...torture." - Duane Kuiper
by busterbuster on Aug 28, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
There could be cause and effect here.
It is well within reasonable possibility that, one, being used in relief he was not, for one or more reasons, at his best, and two, that after being so used was not quite in synch for the following start.
Not necessarily so, no sure thing, but not impossible or even implausible.
All of which flows, of course, from a management that doesn’t know what a “long reliever” is, thinking that someone occasionally getting 4 or 5 outs qualifies.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
OT: 49ers beat the Raiders .....
and travis laboy knocked jason cambell out of the game. he was carted off the field.
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
I'd like to go back in time and enjoy July
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
I exercised self control today
And stopped watching after it became 4-0. Then I watched Star Wars. Overall, a pretty productive night.
"Giants baseball...torture." - Duane Kuiper
Same here
I was proud of myself.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
I actually watched the whole thing. Except, I wasn’t paying attention to it.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 28, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds painful
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Actually, my day was made better thanks to my friend, who was a source of entertainment tonight.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 28, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Friends are good
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Yep.
Now I just need to do my Spanish homework.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 28, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Spanish
I haven’t taken that since Jr. year of HS. Took it for about 5 years.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Spanish
I haven’t taken that since middle school. Took it for about a semester
"Giants baseball...torture." - Duane Kuiper
by busterbuster on Aug 28, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it’s been over a year since I’ve taken it, and I only took it for two years, so I’m in Spanish 1. Thankfully.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 28, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
So you did not go the Pika route
And cheat and end up in like a ridiculously hard Spanish class
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
LOL. Hell no. I could’ve, but no way do I want to be in Spanish 3.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 28, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
My friends
Used to have me do their Spanish homework for them for the sole reason being I’m Mexican.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Wow.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 28, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah...assholes
Jokes on them cause my spanish is TERRIBLE!
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
LOL THEM.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 28, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you do it and suck at it?
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Eh
Sometimes I’d just write shit that didn’t make sense on purpose, just make stuff look like it sounded right to fuck with them. But sometimes they did do my homework for other classes if I needed it.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
i took that in college. i forget if it was macro or micro that gave me so much trouble.
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 2:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I couldn't do that
I was at the game. Of course, I did get a nice free DiMaggio bobblehead (not great looking but it was free).
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I listened to the game on my way to a friends house to watch the UFC fight
I turned it off when I heard flem say that the bases were loaded for the 3rd time and Drew was up for the 2nd time that inning
Buster Posey>
we were 18 games over .500 at the beginning of the month. now we’re 12.
this shit needs to turn around fast.
89 last year, right?
130 games into season, 71 wins… we’d have to win 18 of last 32.
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
88
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
So you think we go 19-13?
Seems pretty aggressive
win tomorrow- cain vs some 5-12 guy, 6+ era (1-0),
6 AZ (4-2), 3 MIL (3-0), 3 CHI (2-1), 6 Rox (2-4), 6 LA (4-2), 7 SD (4-3).
so that’s 20-12 actually
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
You're giving the Giants
Way too much credit against the Padres. Unless they turn it around completely I see them maybe going 2-5.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
that was the basis of my “aggressive” prediction. that we play the pads better. at 2-5 that’s one win less than last year.
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I know they've beaten us
But there’s still no reason for me to believe they’ll keep up this pace. But, anything can happen in a SSS.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
It just seems
For some reason the Padres just get in the Giants’s head. I really do hope that they can come back against the Padres I’m just not going to get my hopes up. But I definitely believe that their playoff hopes really tie in to how they play against San Diego.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
…and AZ. That’s half their remaining schedule- SD and AZ. Of course it all rests on beating those two teams
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I think SD moreso
Just because if we can beat them that’s automatically moving us up in the standings. I think the best shot is to take the West and we still have the 7 games so as long as we keep it relatively close, those last games against SD is the most important in my mind.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
I think the Padres are in the fans’ heads more than the Giants at this point.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
i think so too. dont forget, SD plays CIN, STL while we play MIL, CHI late sep. That could be all the difference right there
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
the number of 1-run games vs the Padres is why I think we can do 4-3 or better for the remainder of the year
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I rarely turn off games.
But today, I turned it off.
by HOLDEMUPGoldenStateOfOppression on Aug 28, 2010 9:40 PM PDT reply actions
Oh Urban
Saying Posey needs to step it up cuz he’s 0 for his last 9 or someones going to take ROTY from him
I want him to win ROY
But I don’t know if he will, they’re talking a lot about Garcia.
I still kind of think it’s Heyward’s to lose.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
I hate Urban so fucking much
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
I watched an anime costume contest
instead of this. I think I made the right choice.
by Murray, Present on Aug 28, 2010 9:46 PM PDT reply actions
Serious question
What are the chances Guillen does not start another game for the remainder of the season?
I’m going to say 20%.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
I say
5%
"Giants baseball...torture." - Duane Kuiper
by busterbuster on Aug 28, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
he may be relegated to spot starter after tonights performance. Sometimes i think Bochy says “im gonna start him 7 straight days and see what happens”, then does the same for the other, then makes his decision who starts from there.
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
0%
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Why can't the Giants beat teams in their own division??
Even the sucky teams like the D’backs and Dodgers beat them.
we swept 4 from AZ in AZ last, and 5-1 vs the Dodgers recently
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
The D-Backs remind me of the Padres
They’re playing better down the stretch and giving us fits, and they have a couple young pitchers who have been effective. They have more talented hitters but a horrific bullpen. If Webb comes back solid for next season and they add even 2 marginal bullpen arms, they could contend in the division.
The 1st pitch is the best
by Tay on Aug 29, 2010 11:32 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL Bengie
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Aug 28, 2010 10:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
To the stat cave, nerds!
The Giants have played 25 games in August thus far. Number of those 25 games where they have used three or fewer pitchers?
Six. Four times using three pitchers, twice using two pitchers. Zero complete games this month.
That kind of says it all, no?
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Ouch
Complete games aren’t necessary, but that’s a lot of bullpen use due to starters not being able to go 6 or 7 innings. I’m confident that Cain will have a strong outing today, hopefully that can turn it around.
The 1st pitch is the best
by Tay on Aug 29, 2010 11:38 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
TWSS?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Yes. Yes, it did.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
OT
I have to go to the bookstore to pick up my books but the shit gets so crowded and I have class monday night. No way I’m going early in the morning because the first day of fall semester is just hell. I fucking hate the first week of school.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
OMG
Only two more weeks till I go back!
Then another week while I’m there!
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
This is your first semester right?
Holy shit I remember how excited the first day was and how nervous I was. It’s always a madhouse and get to your classes like 15 minutes early to find a good seat especially on the first day considering everyone and their mothers go the first day.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Nah, 2nd year
Hence by the “go back!” ;)
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Also on the quarter system
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Whoops didn't pay attention
Well I don’t think it’ll be that bad at UCLA since it’s not as big of a commuter campus as CSULB because holy crap long beach is just horrible the first week. I have to leave like at 6:30 just to get parking in the lots I usually park at.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
You're LB or UCLA?
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
I'm at LB
But I know a couple of people at UCLA and a few that are hoping to transfer there.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Ah
Yeah I’m in SLO, so none of that is really a problem.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
OH LOL ME
I made a mistake it’s not you thats starting at UCLA its that other person who I can’t remember their username. But how is SLO? I haven’t really heard very much about it.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Yeah I thought you had the wrong person
Yeah not many people, but it’s really fun here (there).
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
goGSW24’s the one going to UCLA.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 28, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
There you go!
Wow I’m dumb sometimes lolme
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
CSULB is such a mess the first couple weeks, I just take the bus or park off campus a few blocks away and skate over. And the bookstore is packed, but I never plan ahead and order my books online in advance.
The 1st pitch is the best
by Tay on Aug 29, 2010 11:27 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Order books online
You’ll save mucho money man (woman?).
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Woman
(even though there are no girlz on the interwebz) I did order online but to save on shipping I just said I’d pick them up at school.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
You mean you purchased them from the school bookstore online?
I meant you should buy books off of half.com and amazon
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I usually do
But it was kind of late when I ordered them so I had to go through the bookstore. I already have reading due this week.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Oh, that could be a problem
Fortunately my institution isn’t huge, so I can usually just get stuff from the library if I have to wait for a book to come in online.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Yeah they only keep
One copy usually in the library it’s dumb. Usually I find out my books earlier in the summer but I just kind of forgot about it.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
My wife ordered her text book on line last semester. It came one week after class ended.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Aug 28, 2010 10:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Was Whiteside tipping pitches today like Posey always does?
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Aug 28, 2010 10:08 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Hi folks - Just got back from the game ...
As soon as I arrived, I was bi-ching and moaning about the lineup to my friends who sit in our section – why on earth Guillen is in the lineup and Ross on the bench. Why on earth Guillen is even on the roster. Etc, etc.
Well, after the 1st inning clank in RF, everyone starts coming up to me nodding their heads trying to console me, and agreeing they didn’t want to see Jose start any more games. It was really very funny, in a weird sort of way. It became the theme for the rest of the game.
Now here’s my question: in the last post-game thread, one of our folk supposedly got AmyG saying she "will ask in postgame" … “why Guillen, while obviously hurt, plays over Ross, who is his offensive equivalent while defense upgrade?”
Think that AmyG will have the cajones to ask that now?
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
I know the answer

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
................ ouch ................
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 28, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
thats the problem
all the giants reporters work for the flagships (knbr n comcast) they don’t have the balls to ask the risky questions.
Bochy will never take us all the way.
by Nick Cunningham on Aug 28, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
i actually tweeted her that, i had to open an account and wade through a ton of BS to even send it. but yeah, i think the point is moot now.
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
i doubt she even was gonna ask it anyways. i think anyone can see anything anyone sends on twitter so of course she says she’ll “ask”
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL - can you follow up with that ...
and ask her what Boch’s response was?
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
I’ll log on twitter and see if she posted anything.
I can just see borks reaction “well, he’s got pop, uh, um, yeah, well, lets see, huh, yeah…”
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
i didnt get anything back on twitter. then again, i dont know how to work it. i dont even know what the #(username) means. @ means to whoever, right?
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Guillen drops routine pop fly...
…/clicks Tivo off, deletes game without finishing it, fires up dvd of Bruce Springsteen at Hyde Park.
By the time “Badlands” kicked off, this game was a blurry memory.
Good times.
I can say it here?
JOSE GUILLEN REALLY SUCKS!
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
There are times when people know that they suck
This is what it looks like.

doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
by Tim LinCyYoung on Aug 28, 2010 10:17 PM PDT reply actions
this pretty much sums it all up .......

"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 28, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Was that today's play?
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
yuup .....
pretty fucking sad, ain’t it?
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 28, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
sad? that just cracked me up. i think i said in the old thread that i hope he makes a horrible play that costs us the game just so we dont have to see him anymore.
scary, how accurate i was. if he makes that catch, maybe the whole game changes
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably not
I liked this outcome better, since we were already down 4-0, rather than up 2-1 in the 9th.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
lol, i think you were the one that responded to my comment earlier, too. for how early it was in the game, i think it changed the outcome quite a bit. most noticeably 4 outs in which Uribe doesn’t swing for the fences each AB thinking he can tie a 6-1, 9-1, 11-2 game with a HR.
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
and oh, if he had made that error in the 9th to lose the game, I’da freaked. Freaked, I tell you.
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Zito got booed so loud tonight. Most since his bad run a couple years ago.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
He should be booed. He’s a piece of shit. Lincecum’s been bad lately, and instead of picking him up in the following game, he just adds to the problem. Next year they need to stop kissing his ass and make him the fifth starter.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Aug 28, 2010 10:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
He kinda got squeezed on what should have been strike three to Reynolds in the first. Instead, it gets called a ball and he eventually walks. If he gets Reynolds there, it’s only 1-0. Instead, Montero doubles, Guillen has that horrible clank on the pop-fly, and suddenly it’s 6-0.
Then he gets two outs in the 4th before walking Young, giving up the hit to LaRoche, loses his focus by trying to keep Young from stealing third (he wasn’t going anywhere) before serving up the meatball to Reynolds. 9-1, game over.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
I would have more sympathy for Zito if he hadn’t been doing the 2 strike, nibble nibble nibble walk thing all goddamn night.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
if, if, if…
if Zito makes his pitches in the first place we are not in that position to begin with
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
And if the umpire calls him out it’s a 1-0 game. Sure Zito should be held accountable, but I hate the argument “well if player x doesn’t do this, then player y wouldn’t have fucked up.”
I could also say that Jose Guillen doesn’t deserve to be held accountable for his dropped pop-up if Zito makes better pitches.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
but that wouldn’t be right, because, well… it’s Guillens fault, no matter how you crack it. coulda, woulda, shoulda, don’t equal wins.
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Right
And it’s the umpire’s fault he made a bad call.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
i dont know if we’re agreeing here or not, lol.
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
You said
if, if, if about Zito making pitches. And I’m saying that’s not an excuse for the umpire sucking.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
i meant “if, if, if” in a sarcastic way. so many people say “well if this didnt happen, that doesnt happen”, and so forth, my point is there are no “ifs”. there is no excuse for the umpire sucking. thats baseball
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
reread what I said. If Zito makes his pitches in the first place, there are no ifs.
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions
True
But like I said, that still doesn’t excuse the umpire. If he calls that guy out we probably aren’t bitching about Zito’s pitching (at least in the 1st).
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
right. IF he calls the guy out. the pitch was good, yes. should it have been called? probably, given the zone tonight. but that doesn’t get zeets off the hook for the inning. that just leads to more ifs.
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions
It seems like Zito simply cannot get the 3rd fucking out.
Like clockwork, the gutless prick will get 2 quick outs, walk a guy, hit a guy, give up a base hit, give up a moon shot home run.
3rd out? he can’t even get the 3rd strike. 0-2 to 1-2 to 2-2, foul, foul, 3-2, hit
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I admit I booed a few times tonight. Mostly at Guillen, but Zito got a bit too.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I’m taking this news badly…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 29, 2010 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions
thought he was gay? or so it seems… pink pillow on roadtrips, general gay-vibes.
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions
was at the game, left in the 8th
umm worst game i’ve ever been to? lol me for blaming yesterday’s lost on the McCoven contingent at the game.
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
by MonochromeGarden on Aug 28, 2010 10:25 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT...
You walk Ryan Roberts to load the bases, but with the tying run on second base you pitch to Joey Votto……
I’m not sure i follow your logic
Bochy will never take us all the way.
by Nick Cunningham on Aug 28, 2010 10:29 PM PDT reply actions
Eh
It’s not about who you walk, it’s who you face. Scott Rolen is a lot better than Daniel Hudson.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
word
i guess the point i was trying to make is you don’t pitch to Joey Votto the hottest hitter in the NL with the game on the line. but boch has been doing it for years. Barry Lamar thanks you boch.
Bochy will never take us all the way.
by Nick Cunningham on Aug 28, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
As counter intuitive as it might be
The intentional walk is rarely a good strategy. Now, that said, I didn’t see either of these games referenced, so maybe they were one of the few times it would make sense.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
the IBB diminishes a pitchers confidence b/c the manager doesnt think he can get a guy out. a pitcher should be able to think that he can get anyone out, or he’s not a good pitcher.
not to mention you’re just putting more men on base who can potentially score
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
If a pitchers confidence is that fragile
He isn’t in the pros. Please.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
its not about fragile confidence. the marlins game, wilson refused to IBB uggla before that tying double in the 9th because he wants to know he can get anyone out- that’s his job. to get people out. it might be different for a closer though, who works with less finesse than a SP
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Wilson refused to IBB Uggla?
Never heard about that.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
bochy apparently said in the postgame that he “wanted willy to do it” but that it was more important that “willy thinks he can get anyone out.”
now i dont know that he specifically refused to do it, but it was clear bork wanted the IBB
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions
His job is to help the team win games
If intentionally walking a batter leads to that, then he should do that.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
in theory, that is true. however, we are talking about a closer. he’s gotta get through the tight spots, its the hardest job in baseball, he’s gotta KNOW he can get anyone out. hence, no closer should be IBB anyone.
he’ll help his team win more games by believing that he can get anyone out, at any time, rather than IBB someone
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Also . . .
. . . I would like to see a comprehensive data run on what happens to the next man up after an IBB. Anecdotally, it seems like pitchers who have just issued an IBB have a hard time finding the zone immediately thereafter.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Belt scores 3 runs without getting a hit, how does that work?
0-2, 3 BB
by TimLaser and MattyC on Aug 28, 2010 10:32 PM PDT reply actions
AVOIDING THE DOUBLE PLAY!
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
/not in the Giants system playbook
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
HEY NOW- we’ve been avoiding the DPs quite a bit lately, since bengie was traded and pablo stopped rolling over on everything. (more DPs lately now that Guillen is here, however)
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Dunston must be pissed
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN FUCK YOU JOSE GUILLEN
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on Aug 28, 2010 10:46 PM PDT reply actions 8 recs
That’s half an hour’s worth.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I believe, and correct me if you may, that I did say this pre-emptivvely in the GDT, right at the top.
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think anyone on this site was happy to see Jose Guillen’s name in the lineup.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
i went on a long, long “fuck you” rant on guillen, lol about 10min before he dropped that ball. im psychic
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions
i agree.
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 28, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I will not be disappointed or surprised
If when I type in www.mccoveychronicles.com into my web browser, it will automatically redirect me to Niners Nation. It would probably even be good for me, and for all of the McCoven.
David Carr has a funny looking helmet
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 28, 2010 10:48 PM PDT reply actions
In more positive news
One of my new roommates is from Iceland, and he tells me that he is dying to go to a baseball game. He really wants to learn the game and he apparently finds it fascinating.
I can’t wait to take him to his first ever ballgame- at the country’s nicest park, no less- and teach him about the game. This is awesome!
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
Is your friend Bjork?
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Aug 28, 2010 10:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Is your friend in Sigur Ros? Can you ask the folks at AT&T Park if they’ll let him sing a seven-minute version of the national anthem in Icelandic?
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
OT
Can I just say that the electric guitar anthem tonight was bizarre.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
almost as bad as the guy who whistled the national anthem.
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 28, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
The anthem at the Rivercats game was pretty OK.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 29, 2010 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m beginning to suspect that Kansas City had good reasons for getting rid of Jose Guillen.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
One man’s trash is another man’s trash.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 28, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m beginning to suspect that when people said, “Hey, that Jose Guillen guy is kind of a DH these days”, that it meant that Jose Guillen was not a good defensive player.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
My only problem with him being a DH
IS THAT HE DOESN’T HIT VERY WELL EITHER.
/waits for high BA comment from certain someone
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
His swing is very quick when he strikes out.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
I’m wondering, at home, did it look like he kind of fudged that HBP?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
It certainly did on the replay
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 28, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I was sure it hit the bat, if anything.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I hoped it broke a finger or something.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
yeah i cheered for that too. alas, it was not to be.
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not sticking up for Jose Guillen, but it’s really tired coming on here and reading all this negative shit about him like he’s simglehandedly losing games for this team. I get it, he’s not good and nobody likes him.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Aug 28, 2010 11:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Sorry, what would you rather we complain about?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Sabean and Bochy.
With only rare exceptions, major-league ball players are all doing the best they can. No player should get ragged on here, or booed at the park, because of what he can or cannot do if what he is doing is more or less the best he can do. Players don’t sign themselves, nor write their own names onto lineup cards.
If someone thinks that Guillen, or Zito, or any Giant is dogging it out there, that’s another matter, but where’s the evidence? My complaint is with people who are being paid to do a job of thinking but who (to borrow a phrase from the irrepressible Harlan Ellison) cannot think their way out of a pay toilet.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
by owlcroft on Aug 29, 2010 3:43 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
+1
… and possibly, in our case, can not think their way into the pay tiolet in the first place.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
It's not like Guillen the first pariah on this site
We complain about ALL players that suck.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Well according to Urban
Posey isn’t good anymore. We could bitch about him, but I can’t.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
when you play in the major leagues ......
i don’t care you the fuck you are, you better catch a goddamned pop-up. and when 2 runs to score because of it, you’re fucking right we’re going to complain about it!!!
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 28, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Ironic
I got really tired of people coming on here and complaining about Fred Lewis. The only difference was that one of them was actually decent at baseball at the time of the complaints.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
haha, this.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
let’s go Jose on here so he can stick up for himself, then, ok? the rest of us are just trying to get to the playoffs
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
The crux of the problem is that sports are, at root, a form of entertainment. And Jose Guillen, like Todd Wellemeyer is unsufferable to watch. Wellemeyer might have had more of a direct hand in our losses, but the Guillen problem is compounded by the fact that he is in the chain of consequence:
1) Being played in favor of a player who is an adequate replacement for him offensively, and a vast improvement defensively.
2) Ross’s spot on the 25-man has us squeezed to a 6-man bullpen.
3) The starting pitching is terrible right now, increasing a need for a strong bullpen.
Who on the bench is least useful? Schierholtz, Ishikawa, and Whiteside are under team control, are cheap, play good defense, and are more or less replacement level pieces that are good in the late innings. Fontenot is sorely needed middle infield depth, who is not getting playing time because as soon as we traded for him Freddy swatted his way out of his slump. Rowand is Rowand, but we are stuck with his contract since management doesn’t have the cajones to cut him loose. And at least he plays good defense, “Errant Throwin’” moniker notwithstanding. And then there’s Ross, who landed on the team unexpectedly and is a utility outfielder that can hit for some power but is being envisioned as a platoon against lefties.
What’s the theme here? All these players have defensive value. Defensive value that’s sorely needed to pick up our scuffling starting pitchers. Which leaves Guillen as the odd man out, since his mere presence on the roster seems to be hurting the team. If Lincecum and Zito were pitching 2-hit shutouts, we’d nag, but ultimately put up with him. But being forced to watch this atrocious baseball night after night with the knowledge that a more interesting, valuable, and healthy player is available gets pretty fucking aggravating.
Simply speaking, we didn’t need to pick up Guillen. It didn’t have to happen. And now we’re forced to watch him play every day. At least we got 4 days off from Wellemeyer.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
by Solidarity on Aug 29, 2010 2:14 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Almost.
Ross has more offense value than he is beng given credit for: he could be a decent—not outstanding, but decent—everyday player. Getting Guillen can still be argued about, but as soon as Ross was acquired, it was time to cut Guillen, and biting the bullet on Rowand wouldn’t hurt either (but that’s another topic—see “Costs, sunk”).
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Ross moved Guillen from ‘puzzling acquisition’ to ‘superfluous’.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 29, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I was mad that Rowand got put into the game
until I saw that he was replacing Guillen. Hopefully that sticks.
Yeah, that game sucked. It’s probably the only game I’m going to this year, too.
On the positive side, Panda’s homer was an absolute bomb.
And we sold our DiMaggio bobblehead for $50. Since our tickets were free, we made money for going to watch a ballgame.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
The one thing that was making me laugh was how nuts people were going for the Pablo HR and then later the Burrell FC RBI. Like, I’m glad he homered, but it’s hard for me to get too excited about that sort of thing when we’re down by so much.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yeah, solo homer when down by 8
But it was still fun to watch sail out.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I understand that more than people cheering for the “productive outs” in the 8th. Guys, we’re kind of past the point where productive outs are that useful.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Not according to FP.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
its less embarassment. the d-hacks won by HOW MUCH? oh, ONLY 9? or was it 8?
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Uh
The fact that we’re getting excited over a ROE and two weaksauce ground balls when the Diamondbacks have scored NINE RUNS is embarrassing in and of itself.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
What can I say?
The Giants are embarrassing right now.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
just our kind of embarrassing, is all :(
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions
It's like football players celebrating a good play when their team is down by 20+
WTF MORON? What are you thinking?
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Message from my uncle:
11 to 3 !!!! WOW and doggers lose. P.S. send zito back across the bay.
My uncle is a Diamonbacks/Padres/Cardinals fan. That’s right, he roots for three teams, and TWO in the NL West. Why, you ask?
this way I can really root for the one that has a chance to win it all. Some call me a fair weather fan!
Yeah, SOME people call you that!
Chops have been appropriately busted.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
I really hate shitty nicknames like doggers
LOL DBAGS I’M SO CLEVER
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
So
Jose Guillen
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
I don’t think he’s working out.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
That’s what they said about Pablo and Timmy
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
by drdata24 on Aug 28, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah but......
pablo and timmy were just starting out …… jose guillen is a 13 year veteran. you don’t have a fucking excuse when you drop a routine pop-up.
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 28, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
aahhh i see it now ......
hahahahahaha. sorry. i’ve been a little wound up since that 1st inning. time for a bong hit.
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 28, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
No problem
My sense of humor can be subtle at times.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
there ......
i’m high now. feel much better.
/raises bong.
here’s to 33 games left.
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 28, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Today never happened
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
word.
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 29, 2010 1:15 AM PDT up reply actions
damn ......
that 1st inning REALLY fucked me up today. LOL!
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 29, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions
That was yesterday, in that timeframe stoner’s right: 33
by Talkin_Base_Ball on Aug 29, 2010 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Who could have seen that coming?
O wait. Everyone.
So it appears that Rowand and Guillen are wasting a couple of roster spots - one has to go ... but which?
Reminds me of a joke:
Private Jones was assigned to the Army induction center, where he
was to advise new recruits about their government benefits, especially
their Serviceman’s Group Life Insurance (SGLI).
It wasn’t long before the center’s Lieutenant noticed that Private Jones
had almost a 100% record for insurance sales, which had never happened
before. Rather than ask about this, the Lt. stood in the back of the
room and listened to Jones’s sales pitch.
Jones explained the basics of the SGLI to the new recruits, and then
said. “If you have SGLI and go into battle and are killed, the
government has to pay $200,000 to your beneficiaries. If you don’t have
SGLI, and you go into battle and get killed, the government has to pay
only a maximum of $6000.”
“Now,” he concluded, “which bunch do you think they are going to send
into battle first?”
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
by drdata24 on Aug 28, 2010 11:26 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Uh what? - per Pavlovic from Extra Baggs.
Also, in case you don’t click on the link, Brian Wilson was hit by an errant Santiago Casilla throw during batting practice but told team officials he was just a little sore, and not seriously injured.
An errant throw by Santiago Casilla? I am shocked I say, shocked.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
that guy is a strikeout machine when he hits his spots, though. which is more often than not lately
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
That game was a meat and cheese gift basket full of awful.
"Bengie Molina - the quintessential double play possibility." - Jon MIller
Turned the game off after the Guillen error. Went to a local watering hole and had a few drinks. I haven’t had any alcohol in a long time. I am a light weight now.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 28, 2010 11:55 PM PDT reply actions
When was the last time you drank before tonight?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I have had the occasional beer within the last couple of months. This was the first time I had vodka in about 10 months.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 29, 2010 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions
You're home early because you started propellering wildly and got kicked out, aren't you?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Something pretty close to that =p
Mostly, I left because if I would have stayed I would have ended up smashed.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 29, 2010 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions
hey Lars, you know Fleming? he was talkin’ bout some Lars guy who made a cool cat catch
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Wasn't me =)
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 29, 2010 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions
They should edit the game so that the Giants win this time.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 29, 2010 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Just play the innings that they won
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I can see it now
Showing clips that don’t even add up. Somehow we play the Cubs, Astros and D-Backs in the same game. Bonds hits a homer. Lincecum doesn’t suck. It would be pretty sweet.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
One clip.
Sandoval goes deep, and good night everyone.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Back in 1981, during the strike, KNBR replayed games from the '62 Series...
…and, just for fun, they edited the radio broadcast so that McCovey’s line drive gets past Richardson & the Giants won the ’62 World Series.
Good times.
So my dad asked me how the game was going.
I told him Guillen dropped a fly ball and runs scored. He told me to get use to it and just hate him now. I remind you this is the man who still defends Molina. If you don’t know he is an Angles fan.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 12:14 AM PDT reply actions
An Angle? no, not the Angle again!!!! gah, saveeeee meeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Angel fan
Johnny Walker makes me type funny.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions
it's okay brother .......
weed makes me type funny.
now, weed AND johnny walker ……. now that’s a different story. lol!
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 29, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I have this bookmarked
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnnie_Walker
Sweet sweet Blue Label.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions
weed and Johnny Walker make me look funny :(
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions
you're not the only one, Bro Montana.
/raises hand.
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 29, 2010 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I started a bad thing
It is Johnnie Walker. My bad just checked the label.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions
it's okay ......
Johnny ……. whoops ……. JohnnIE is used to it by now. hahahaha!
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 29, 2010 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Damn americans
get it right. Sad thing is I really checked my Black Label.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions
OBTUSE IS GONNA HAVE SUCH A GOOD YEAR
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
LOL
nerd humor
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
sadley
I got it also.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions
that’s acute of you.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Ha
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions
You are so right.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
You sure can get complementary.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
buuhh-dump-pshhhh.
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 29, 2010 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Point remains
Molina defender hates Guillen. My dad never says bad things about players.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions
well ........
i hated molina and currently hate guillen. problem solved. lol!
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 29, 2010 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I had to explain
to him why Molina sucked, his answer. “veteran catcher helps.” My dad went to the Bork school of thinking
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions
lol!
apparently!
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 29, 2010 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't hate Molina
He was a good pickup for a couple years and is a good guy. I just wish he could have left us on a better note (AKA, last year).
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
I agree
I didn’t like his general whinniness about Buster being the future.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions
he obviously knew coming in that Buster was coming up at some point, so yeah i didnt appreciate the whining either.
he could have avoided the whole situation had ANY team called him in the offseason.
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Mets did
They offered one or two years and he wanted a three year deal. So he came here and signed a one or two year deal.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions
you're right ......
seemed like a decent guy. i just hated his base running.
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 29, 2010 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Double LOL
Remember when Cody Ross excited to contribute to a contender.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 12:21 AM PDT reply actions
Kinda like Huff
“If you don’t want to come here and play with this pitching, then you don’t want to win.”
LOL Huff, poor guy.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
I was thinking about that statement on the way home tonight. I lol’d bitterly.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I hate humor at the expense of myself or my teams
But it’s better than self-pity!
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
You think this is going to deter other potential free agents from signing with us?
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions
No
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Good.
Glad to know I am not the only one. My fear of making the post season is that Sabes and Bochy get extensions and are fixtures to screw with us forever.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, Bochy won't last forever
I give him another 10 years. 12, tops.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I cried while LOL'in
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Nah
I don’t think any FA are afraid of signing here. Sabean just signs the bad ones to bad deals and then probably tries to lowball the good ones.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
word gets around the league. if FAs come here and like it, nobodys stopping anyone else from coming. I have a feeling it was a few visiting team guys whining about HR totals that gave them the rep.
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s what I loved about this team before Guillen. Everyone was having a good time, people heard about the clubhouse and how positive it was. I only hope this stays the same.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions
so you’re asking for Guillen to be DFA’d like the rest of us?
would we be responsible for the rest of his salary if no one picked him up?
sabean wouldnt do that, he doesnt admit to mistakes- he just acts like he never made them and flips us off
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Not at all
I am the biggest anti Guillen guy on here I think. But even I know he has some use as an off the bench bat. I know he is a bad clubhouse guy and that scares me but if he comes in to pinch hit and drive in some runs I don’t mind him. Everyday RF is a bad idea though.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions
the bad clubhouse guy rep stems from times when he is benched- like what’s about to happen. i can def see his role as a PH but that role is where he starts causing problems. hopefully because he’s in a contract year, he’ll be on his best behavior
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully
He needs to realize that is the role he is made for on this team. He doesn’t have the speed to play right and he is worth more to us coming in as a bat. I don’t think the benching is coming just yet but I know Ross is wanting to be out there a lot more each day.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 1:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Ross will start todays game, 99% sure on that. Guillen might have just relegated himself to the bench with that poor outing in RF today. The only thing keeping him off the bench was that he could field somewhat as well, and that’s obviously a joke. that 360 spin, and the dropped ball fried him. managers dont take position players out in the 4th inning
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree
I just don’t think Bruce is ready to sit him. He will say something like “He just needs to get use to the field.” or some manager talk. I think it is a platoon thing going on that he has yet to announce. I still think he would play Rowand before Ross.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions
i highly doubt that. rowand had his chance and played himself straight to the bench, while ross has much better numbers than him. we all saw what happened when ross started. he started 3 rallies every time.
i was horrified about the ross/torres platoon but i dont think he had the balls to do that, not with a player of torres worth.
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions
About Errant Thrown' ...
I would rather see him start than Jose. Neither should be a routine starter on a contender. This is like giving Velez about as much play time in April as Bowker & Lewis and most of the time in the OF. It is just dumb idea given where the team is at.
The other thing about Aaron is that it took 2 full seasons to get to this point of reducing his play time and shifting him other positions to be seriously considered. I really don’t want to wait 10 months for Bork and company to seriously consider changing Jose’s role
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
Guillen won’t be resigned. If he is, I will find another team to root for. I will not stand for an entire season of a cripple in RF
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Mind . . .
. . . by 2011 he might not be crippled any more. (But that would not make it a good idea to keep him.)
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
If he resigned, the question would be moot.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 30, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Not to keep picking fresh scabs off a wound but this is Bork & Sabean we are talking about here. No signing and subsequent over playing of a veteran over 33 would shock me with those two hooligans.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
also, platoons involve RH v LH batters, while both are right, so it will come down to who plays better. Ross is a CF by trade, so he’s a huge upgrade in right. his numbers are better than guillens too.
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think Bochy is thinking like that. I never know what he is thinking though. I never think he will do what is best for this team because of his history. The earlier remarks are based off the fact that he still finds ways to disappoint us, I don’t think he shocks us though.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 1:46 AM PDT up reply actions
no, he fails to shock us anymore. well, i was shocked to hear whiteside is sooooo much faster than posey. or not.
the worst of his failing is that he loves vets, and doesn’t give young players a chance, a large reason why the talent we have isnt developed. sabean had to trade off bengie just to get posey catching time- surreal.
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 2:03 AM PDT up reply actions

"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 29, 2010 1:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I stayed the whole game. I’m not sure why.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
it was probably because the Giants came back from being down 10-1 to tie it the other day. that kind of game will have long lasting effects on a fan. including me who sat through lincecum’s implosion last night. that was brutal.
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 29, 2010 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions
But the D’backs pitching is so much better then the Reds.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions
miracles do happen .......
from time to time. lol!
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 29, 2010 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions
You paid full price
and left after an inning, that’s ballsy dude
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeesh
Looks like the meet-up in Sacramento went as well as Friday night in SF. Both bad losses.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
No more meet ups? or more booze?
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 29, 2010 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions
So I"m back from Taiwan
Man that game sucked hard.
For those in the “know”, I got dragged to 制服酒店 in Taipei while I was there. And Know, I didn’t 包出場 but it sure was a pretty glorious 3 hours.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
did you hit the night market?
I could sure go for a 蔥油餅 right now.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
Just back from Japan
Almost all of my two weeks isolated from the Internet at a Shinto shrine — I was about to ask where the heck Guillen came from before the game — now my only question is where the heck can we send him? A belated comment on Grant’s assessment of the D’backs, based on my usual aversion to research and loyalty to gut feelings when it comes to baseball — are they really that bad? Most of us thought they’d do better this year. Perhaps they are finally getting closer to expectations. Is this a case of a late developing team getting underrated, like the Padres last year?
by NearestNorwich on Aug 29, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
God help me, I’ll be watching while my boar shoulder braises.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 29, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ll have the radio on while I do some gradin’, I guess.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Doin’ teachy stuff!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 29, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow, no Posey and more Guillen today. Awesome.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Torres CF
F Sanchez 2B
Huff 1B
Guillen RF
Sandoval 3B
Ross LF
Uribe SS
Whiteside C
Cain SP
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
That’s a bit of a disheartening lineup isn’t it?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 29, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Guillen batting cleanup. With the DP machine hitting behind him. LOL!
This line up is pretty much the biggest FU to Matt Cain this season.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Aug 29, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
And awesome LOL from Baggs:
Guillen gets rewarded for his brutal drop by slotting in at cleanup.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Aug 29, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I want to reiterate that it is so awesome that Baggs has reclaimed his balls.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Absolutely
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 29, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
It does not require . . .
. . . either intestines or testicles to jump on a bandwagon.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
LOL GUY WHO SAID GUILLEN WOULDN'T START AGAIN FOR AWHILE
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 29, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I am new here, but not to baseball. This just boggles the mind.
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
quite a few others said he wouldnt start either, in my defense
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, and
LOL GRANT
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Guillen has become Bengie. In our eyes and Bochy’s
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 29, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
The FO knows that if we WIN games, we can still make the playoffs, right?
’Cuz this lineup is damn near apologetic.
“Sorry, guys, this season didn’t work out, BUT LOOK AT DER NEW BATZ!!!”
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Anyone post the lolineup yet?
No posey+Yes Guillen=football season
by capn on Aug 29, 2010 10:53 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
WHEW
From Amy G’s twitter:
Just spoke with #sfgiants Buster Posey and although he’s not in lineup, he took BP and said he feels better. He said he’s available today.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 29, 2010 11:17 AM PDT reply actions
Baggs
Buster Posey hit off tee, said strained forearm felt “all right. I don’t think it’s anything big.” Posey isn’t starting for 2nd straight day
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 29, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
If he really is all the way better, this could be a blessing, considering how hard Bochy has been riding him lately.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
/prays for Buster to pinch run for Guillen
Seriously, is that so bad? I would totally be ok with Bochy double switching and putting Huff in the OF, Ishi at 1B, and yank Whiteside out.
OH WAIT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER LINEUP IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
I think Matt Cain is going to pitch a great game today—something like 7 or 8 innings, 4 hits, 1 run.
I’m trying to be optimistic here, but Guillen starting AND batting cleanup isn’t helping.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
New Thoery Born Of Desperation
Bochy is running him out there every day in an attempt to blow out his quad.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 29, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Sadly, that almost makes sense.
We used to be mocked for our lackluster offense. Now we’re a joke of ten trillion outfielders.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
LOL Baggs commenter
Jose Cruz Jr. says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:08 am
I just saw the lineup card and it looks like I get another start in rightfield!
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
The Mr. and I were talking about that last night.
Dude has a great year in right field, wins a gold glove, but drops the ball in the playoffs and is therefore reviled. Guillen drops a ball and now gets to bat cleanup?
I like Jose Cruz Jr. :(
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I did too, I felt bad for him. Seems like that was one of those unfortunate career deciding plays. If he’d made that catch…. there’s an alternate reality story for you…
an alternate reality in a parellel universe. Stay out of my universe, damn it!!!
by giant4life83 on Aug 29, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions

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