minor lines 8/25/10
Wednesday highlight from the Giants' farm: Brandon Belt homered and walked twice in his PCL debut. Also notable, Andrew Reichard had 10 K, as well as 2 ER, in 6.0 IP.
AAA: Fresno lost Sacramento 6-5Fresno: RF Eugenio Velez: 1 for 5, HR, 3 SO
Fresno: LF Brandon Belt: 1 for 3, HR, 2 BB, SO, SB
Fresno: 3B Jesus Guzman: 1 for 4, HR, BB, 2 SO
Sacramento: 1B Chris Carter: 1 for 2, HR, 2 BB
Fresno: SP Eric Hacker: 5.0 IP, 7 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 6 BB, 2 K--2 HR, 1 WP, 1 BK
Fresno: RP Dan Runzler: 1.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R
The Grizzlies manage just six hits, as well as six walks, but three of those six hits were big flies. Making his PCL debut, Belt provided the Grizzlies' only early offense with a solo HR to lead off the 4th inning. The ball did not clear the fence by much, but he was taking on a deeper part of the field in right-center. He then walked in his next two at bats as he reached base three times in total. Guzman added his 17th HR in the 6th inning, and Velez had his 6th HR in the 8th inning. Carter, who made his MLB debut for the Athletics earlier this month, homered for the third time in his last four games, raising his season total to 31 HRs. Like Belt, he also reached base three times.
Hacker struggled with an uncharacteristically high 6 BB, dropping his K/BB ratio below 2.00. With 5 ER, this was one of his least effective starts of the year, raising his ERA to 4.12. In his fourth PCL rehab appearance, Runzler allowed hits to two of his four batters.
AA: Richmond defeated Reading 4-2
(allowing all four runs in the 3rd inning)
Richmond: 1B Sharlon Schoop: 3 fof 4
Richmond: C Tyler LaTorre: 0 for 4, 3 SO
Richmond: SP Jake Stevens: 5.0 IP, 5 H, 4 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 2 K--1 HB, 3 WP
Richmond: RP Mitch Lively: 4.0 IP, 3 H, 2 BB, 3 K--1 BK
Schoop had three of the Flying Squirrels' five hits. His third straight multi-hit game raised his AVG to .296. With the oh-fer that included the hat trick, LaTorre saw his AVG drop to .201.
Stevens made his first start in three years. Including this start, Stevens has a 2.38 ERA through 44 appearances this year. Lively had one of the longest appearances of his career with 4.0 scoreless IP.
A+: San Jose lost to Visalia 3-0
San Jose: 2B Jose Flores: 2 for 4
San Jose: SP Andrew Romo: 4.0 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 6 BB, 2 K
With two of the Giants' six hits (all singles), Flores was the only Giant to reach base twice. His AVG is .334.
Romo made his second Cal League start, with this start coming on three days rest following his previous very poor start (5 ER in 1.0 IP). He allowed just 1 H and 1 R but did issue 6 BB. Overall this season, his BB/IP is just barely below 0.50.
A-: Augusta defeated West Virginia 4-3
(scoring all four runs in the 6th inning)
Augusta: 2B Ryan Cavan: 2 for 4, 2B, SB
Augusta: 1B Luke Anders: 1 for 3, HR, 2 SO
Augusta: SP Andrew Reichard: 6.0 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 10 K-1 HR
Augusta: RP Jose Casilla: 1.0 IP, 2 K
Anders had his 13th HR. Cavan, the only GreenJacket with two hits, had the GreenJackets' other XBH with hsi 29th double. He also had his 10th SB.
Reichard matched a season high with 10 K. The 25-year-old has been an innings-eater as a starter, averaging more than six innings per start. Casilla had 2 K in a perfect 9th inning for his 12th save.
ssA: Salem-Keizer lost to Vancouver 7-4
(scoring four runs in the 1st inning but allowing five runs in the 3rd inning)
Salem-Keizer: DH Dan Burkhart: 3 for 5
Salem-Keizer: SS Carter Jurica: 2 for 4, 2 SO, E
Salem-Keizer: SP Taylor Rogers: 6.0 IP, 6 H, 6 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 6 K--1 HR, 1 IBB, 1 PO, 2 E
Salem-Keizer: SP Kaohi Downing: 3.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 5 K--1 BK
Burkhart's three hits paced the Volcanoes' eleven-hit attack and raised his AVG to .350. Jurica was one of three other Volcanoes with a multi-hit line, raising the AVG of this year's third rounder back above the Mendoza line. Jurica also committed his 13th error.
Rogers was victimized primarily by his own defense, as his two errors in the 3rd inning helped lead to five runs in that frame. Downing had a season-high 5 K, lifting his K/IP above 0.75 through 39.0 IP in 22 appearances.
R: The rookie Giants had their final regularly scheduled off-day this season
(Their 32-18 W-L record is the best record in the league.)
DSL: The Gigantes, who have a first-round playoff bye, found out they will face the Mariners in the second round, starting tomorrow.
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belt makes me tingly in my pants.
guillermo mota: adopted for his veteran relieving savvy
by jobrien9 on Aug 26, 2010 10:11 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
More than tingly for me.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 26, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Ha! Yeah, that’s true. I think the Giants see outfield as a weakness going into next year given the possibility of resigning Huff to play first base. I can kind of see that. As much as I love him, I’m not sure the Giants should resign Huff, but whatever. It’s a good first base market, so Huff might come cheap on a 1-2 year deal. Of course, if Derosa returns and is good, I’m not sure where he would play in this situation.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 26, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
The other wildcard is Panda. Even with his improved bat, his glove at 3B remains less than good. Unless he really follows through on a conditioning and weight loss program, I think he will be the opening day 2011 1B.
That’s another good point. This is all becoming very complicated. I assume Panda will hit somewhere between 2009 and 2010 next year, so the Giants should find a spot for him somewhere.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 26, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree-
They can’t give up on him particularly if he continues on his current stretch. They have also built a good deal of marketing around him.
Here's a thought
Why not use Sandoval as the backup catcher and let him play 3B or 1B on the days he doesn’t catch? The Giants could then carry another hitter, since Whiteside is not in fact a hitter, plus if they bring back Huff and Uribe with DeRosa coming back Bochy can have a position lottery every day to see where people will be playing. I’m sure CSN or KNBR would pay big bucks for the rights.
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by Giant Torture on Aug 26, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
This idea gets brought up pretty frequently, often by me, but I’ve seen no evidence at all that the organization even remembers that he used to be a catcher.
Maybe...
If the Giants have “Catcher Heritage Night” they’ll remember that Sandoval came up as a catcher.
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by Giant Torture on Aug 26, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Panda HAS to play third next year. There’s many other options at first and none at third. Playing him at first would be a waste.
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by rxmeister on Aug 26, 2010 12:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
There is yet another (3B option):

While you were reading this, Carlos Willoughby just stole second base.
Ummm...
What about Juan Uribe, Fontenot or any of the 3B who are available via free agency? How would playing Panda at 1st be a waste? I know he’s having a good week, but even when he’s hitting he’s a terrible 3B. Did you see the throw he made yesterday and I know he did a lot to get them back in to the game, but that was one of the things that cost them the game.
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by Giant Torture on Aug 26, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, Pablo’s a less-than-stellar defender right now at 3B, but I thought (in a non-stat-nerd king of way) last year he was actually pretty good there. (Statfolk may correct me if I’m wrong). And I don’t think I was subconciously influenced by his great hitting last year, because I didn’t see him last year very much (just got MLB Extra Innings this season).
Three things I don’t like about Sandoval at 1B:
- He’s right-handed. Handedness bias, sorry.
- He’s short (5’11" -ish)
- He blocks Brandon Belt, a 6’5" lefty. (dreamy)
While you were reading this, Carlos Willoughby just stole second base.
He’s actually a natural lefty. Otherwise I agree with your list of dislikes for a first baseman.
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But if you’re not wanting him at 3B or 1B, where do you put the Panda?
My Bucardo is better than yours.
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That would seem to be the $64,000 question. In my ideal world, he’s a catcher. That frees up Buster to play 3B, SS, or 2B – which I think is the right move long-term anyway. Also, Jessica Alba is our head cheerleader, and a unicorn replaces Brian Sabean as GM.
Realistically, I see a huge logjam for next year’s roster – it will be fascinating, and truly scary, to see how it all shakes out.
While you were reading this, Carlos Willoughby just stole second base.
if that’s the case, do the Giants re-sign Uribe to play 3B?
by TimLaser and MattyC on Aug 26, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it's more likely
That the Giants re-sign Uribe to play SS.
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i agree with this…. with the off chance that Crawford has a great spring and can take over in the 2nd half
Our minor league middle IF depth is pretty much non-existant
Nice to have Fontenot around, but he shouldn’t be a starting SS.
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I like RyRohl!
He’s a lot better than Burriss. But I don’t think he’ll hit well enough to be more than a utility guy. Which, don’t get me wrong, is useful, but we need a starter.
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"resign" or "re-sign"?
I think Huff will not be a Giant next year.
DeRosa was never that good a player, bench him.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
36 years old with two major wrist surgeries? There’s no guarantee DeRosa will even be able to compete again, let alone start. No doubt the Giants are planning for this possibility. Plus no Guiilen, possibly no Burrell. And Rowand….you get the picture. There’s nothing wrong with getting as much OF training as possible under Brandon’s belt right now.
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If you think about it though
Next year we’re definitely losing Guillen, and probably losing one of the Huff/Burrell combo too. There will be room in the OF.
I would rather have Brandon Belt, Right Fielder than First Baseman, if only for the positional value.
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I don't know
I kind of think that the best way to bring back Huff on the cheap is to bring back Burrell too, and I wouldn’t count out the Giants re-signing Guillen. Remember, Guillen’s old, gets lots of RBI’s, he’s slow, hits in to double plays and is a below average outfielder, or pretty much Sabean’s favorite kind of player.
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by Giant Torture on Aug 26, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it would be really cool if we could have
2011 opening day line up…
Torres CF
Posey C
Huff 1B
Burrell LF
Sandoval 3B
Belt RF
Uribe SS
Sanchez 2b
For that matter, we could have a Sanchez/Fonteno platoon at 2b and a Belt/Cody Ross platoon in right. Belt doesn’t hit lefties nearly as well as righties, and Ross mashes them.
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I would support this, but with one change
Torres CF
Posey C
Huff 1B
Burrell LF
Sandoval 3B
Belt RF
Uribe SS
Sanchez 2b
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by Giant Torture on Aug 26, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
The Belt and Huff positioning makes no sense to me. Belt plays only average OF defense now (and I’d hate to see how he’d look in the treacherous RF in AT&T), and Huff is only an average defensive 1B. It would be much better to switch the 2 players, putting a guy that plays plus D at 1B (Belt) and a guy that plays average D in RF (Huff) – not to mention that Huff will have had a full year of experience with AT&T by then.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Are we really sure about Belt’s numbers against lefties at this point? I’d rather he play regularly than platoon.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 26, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
This
I don’t see Belt as a platoon player after this season. Perhaps they shuffle in Ross here or there, or occasionally play Belt at 1B, but Belt projects as an every day player at this point.
Belt's splits are very good - he's not a platoon candidate
Not counting yesterday’s game, for the entire season he’s hitting:
LHP: .302/.404/.510/.914 … 1 HR per 24.0 ABs, K-rate=21.0%, BB-rate=12.3%, ISO=.208
RHP: .378/.475/.657/1.132 .. 1 HR per 22.9 ABs, K-rate=14.1%, BB-rate=16.5%, ISO=.279
Looking at his nubers only against AA pitching, we see that he’s also had great success against lefties in the EL. He had a huge power-spike against them while his Ks and BBs went in the wrong direction, but it was a very small sample (50 PAs):
LHP: .340/.377/.660/1.037 .. 1 HR per 12.5 ABs, K-rate=23.1%, BB-rate=3.8%, ISO=.320
RHP: .328/.421/.598/1.019 .. 1 HR per 24.4 ABs, K-rate=15.5%, BB-rate=14.1%, ISO=.270
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I support bringing back Huff and Burrell if it can be done economically
But there’s no way Guillen is back. I hope.
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
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Agree about Huff and Burrell.
I’d be down with a 2 year deal for Huff and a one year deal for Burrell.
As for Guillen… I think Sabean now realizes just how bad Guillen is defensively. He mentioned how slow Guillen was in an interview a couple of days ago. So if anything, he atleast recognizes one bad aspect of Guillen’s game.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Aug 26, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Huff should get a 2/12 and Burrell a 1/5 or something
And I don’t think Guillen has done anything to earn himself a new contract, and I don’t really think he will either. If anything, he might start losing time to Cody Ross, which is good.
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I still think we’ll be glad we have Guillen by the end of this season, but there’s no place for him on next year’s team. I actually think this will be the first off season since Bonds left (and trade deadline) where I won’t be screaming for Sabean to fix the damn offense.
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by rxmeister on Aug 26, 2010 12:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Sure
I mean, if it comes down to a game 163 situation in the bottom of the 9th and we have Guillen off the bench instead of Eli Whiteside, then it was all worth it.
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I dont see how we get much better
If we’re counting on Huff and Burrell to be just as good as this year and the only new piece we have is a rookie first baseman. I love Belt and I want to re-sign Huff and maybe Burrell for the right deal, but I think we would still need another player.
by 8thInningWeirdness on Aug 26, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, thank god for Belt or this would be one of the more depressing minor lines in recent memory.
I’m also guessing that Richmond lost to rather than defeated Reading if the score was 4-2 and the Squirrels pitcher gave up four runs.
How bad is Guzman’s D at third base?
Do you remember what Guzman looked like when he played 1B in the Majors last season? I would venture a guess that his 3B D is horrid.
Well, yeah, exactly, that’s what I was thinking, but I was hoping maybe somebody had actually witnessed the butchery and could provide a report.
Yeah, I think there’s a chance he could play some Bob Brenly level defense over there. Definitely high comedic potential.
He is the DL a lot.
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Adopted Giant: Ryan Rohlinger (on loan from Shanghaijim).
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
did not look good last night in Sacramento. Gave up one bunt single as soon as he saw it was a fairly good bunt. Didn’t charge at all.
proud, yes I said proud, adoptive papa of "Geno" Eugenio Velez--
more game changing bunts than Buster Posey!
by foothillsfan on Aug 26, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
well, I saw him play LF on Sunday
misplayed a ball in the corner but didn’t cost them anything as it would have been a double anyway.
Versatility, Eugenio style
Plays multiple positions, all of them poorly!
Belt's Richmond Numbers
I’m not sure exactly how they count stats for suspended games, but today Richmond resumes a suspended game with Altoona in which Belt has gone 2 for 3. If weather permits, I think his average and OBP will increase without playing for them today! It’s also interesting that Wescott started the suspended game and is scheduled for starting today.
Belt reaches base even when he’s not playing! He’s that good!
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 26, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah, he may only go an inning or 2 in the suspended, or he may go 7 or 8. If it’s just one or 2, then he stays warm and goes out for the 2nd game.
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more game changing bunts than Buster Posey!
by foothillsfan on Aug 26, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Dan Burkhart: Catcher of the Future!
While you were reading this, Carlos Willoughby just stole second base.
Give it up, Lyle. Our Catcher of the Future is our Catcher of the Present, and it feels so good.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
My, how quickly you’ve abandoned the Hector Sanchez Bandwagon. (As have I, to be fair).
While you were reading this, Carlos Willoughby just stole second base.
I can’t say I was ever on the Sanchez bandwagon exactly. I do think he’s an interesting prospect with possibilities. I like how he adds to our organizational depth at C. I’d rather have him backing up Buster than Jax (which is, sidebar, not only an inevitability, but I now fear in my heart that he’s going to be a LeMasteresque mainstain on our 25 man roster for a generation), but I’m not exactly screaming for a Hector fast-track. He has had a very good year, though.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I agree
And the Lemasteresque characterization is spot on, I fear. He’ll be the Marvin Benard of this next group of players – he’ll improbably get on the 25-man roster, and then improbably stay on it longer than he should.
While you were reading this, Carlos Willoughby just stole second base.
And this is news because? Wish I could say I was surprised, but the litany of comments on MCC would prove me a liar.
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by Giant Torture on Aug 26, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Dan Burkhart
Even though its SSS (68 PA), I’m liking what he’s been doing so far (.345/.426/.500). Next year we’ll see what kind of hitter he really is, but if he can keep hitting well he’ll be the next Giants minor league catcher to watch along with Hector Sanchez and Tommy Joseph
Watching Tommy Joseph
just makes me sad now
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My Son
At least your sadness is well illuminated by his light tower power.
While you were reading this, Carlos Willoughby just stole second base.
by Lyle on Aug 26, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I LOL’ed, wreck’d
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