minor lines 8/22/10
by steve S on Aug 22, 2010 11:59 PM PDT
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PrintHighlights from the Giants' farm: Eugenio Velez reached base five times, Johnny Monell homered and singled, and Chris Dominguez reached base in all four of his plate appearances.
AAA: Fresno defeated Iowa 10-7
(after being tied 4-4 through six innings)
Fresno: 2B Eugenio Velez: 3 for 4, 2 BB, CS E
Fresno: LF Jesus Guzman: 3 for 5, 2B, SO
Fresno: SP Waldis Joaquin: 2.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB
Fresno: RP Dontrelle Willis: 1.0 IP, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 1 K--1 HB, 1 WP
Fresno: RP Dan Runzler: 2.0 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB
With three hits each, Velez and Guzman accounted for nearly half of the Grizzlies' fourteen hits. Both hitters have AVGs around .310.
Making his second PCL start, Joaquin lasted just two innings, but threw 56 pitches (36 strikes) in those two innings. Willis allowed a run in his first appearances with a Giants' full-season affiliate, although that was arguably negated by his two-RBI triple. Runzler allowed his first runs in five rehab appearances.
AA: Richmond defeated Bowie 4-0
Richmond: 1B Brandon Belt: 2 for 4, 2B, BB, SO
Richmond: 3B Conor Gillaspie: 2 for 4, BB
Richmond: SP Felix Romero: 5.0 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 6 K
Richmond: RP Andy Sisco: 3.0 IP, 1 H, 6 K--1 WP
Richmond: RP Ronnie Ray: 1.0 IP, 2 K
Both Belt and and Gillaspie had two hits and a walk, raising their respective OBPs to .402 and .343.
Romero pitched five scoreless innings in his first start in nearly three weeks. He has a sub-3.00 ERA in eleven starts. Sisco and Ray struck out eight of the thirteen batters they faced in relief.
A+: San Jose defeated Stockton 7-1
San Jose: RF Francisco Peguero: 3 for 4, 2B
San Jose: C Johnny Monell: 2 for 4, HR, SO
San Jose: SS Ehire Adrianza: 1 for 4, HR
San Jose: LF James Simmons: 2 for 2, 2B, BB, CS
San Jose: SP Jorge Bucardo: 5.0 IP, 8 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K--1 HR
San Jose: RP Jason Stoffel: 1.0 IP, 1 H, 1 K
Monell had his 17th HR, and Adrianza his 2nd HR. Three hits raised Peguero's AVG to .317. Simmons reached base in all three of plate appearances.
Is Bucardo proving to be a bit too hittable in the Cal League? With 23 H (vs 9 K) in 15.2 IP over his last three starts, his BAA in five Cal League starts has risen to .286. Stoffel pitched a scoreless 9th inning.
A-: Augusta lost to Lexington 8-2
(after trailing 3-0 through seven innings)
Augusta: 3B Chris Dominguez: 3 for 3, 2B, BB, E
Lexington: SS Jio Mier: 2 for 3, 2 BB, SO, CS
Augusta: SP Chris Heston: 5.0 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 1 ER, 4 BB, 4 K--1 WP
Augusta: RP Craig Clark: 2.0+ IP, 4 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 2 BB, 2 K
Augusta: RP Jose Casilla: 1.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 1 K
Lexington: SP Tanner Boshue: 6.0 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 4 K
With three singles while reaching base in all four plate appearances, Dominguez improved his season line to .267/.317/.436 through 505 AB, but he also committed his 30th error. Mier, whom Baseball America rated as the Astros #2 prospect prior to the season, reached base four times, but overall the 19-year-old has hit a disappointing .233/.316/.312 through 442 AB in his first full-season.
Heston allowed no more than 1 ER for the seventh time in his last eight starts, but a season-high 4 BB and two unearned runs led to the loss. Clark's struggles continue as after a couple scoreless innings, he and Casilla combined to allowed 5 ER in the 8th inning. The 26-year-old Clark now has an ERA above 5.00 in ten Sally League appearances. Boshue, one of the Astros' top ten prospect shut down the GreenJackets in this start after allowing 6 ER when he faced them in early July.
ssA: Salem-Keizer lost to Yakima 5-3
Salem-Keizer: 2B Raynor Campbell: 2 for 4, SO, E
Salem-Keizer: RF Jose Medina: 0 for 1, 3 BB
Salem-Keizer: SP Shawn Sanford: 4.0 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 1 K--1 HR
Salem-Keizer: RP Aaron King: 1.1 IP, 1 BB, 1 K
Campbell had two of the Volcanoes' four hits (all singles), raising his AVG to .264. Medina drew three walks. With 28 BB among 188 AB, he has an OBP of .357 despite an AVG of just .245. His AVG has steadily fallen throughout the NWL season. After hitting over .300 in June, his AVG so far in August has been below the Mendoza line.
Sanford made his first start after eighteen relief appearances with the Volcanoes this year. Last year's thirteenth rounder had posted good stats as a reliever with 23 H, 12 BB, and 31 K in 27.0 IP with a 2.33 ERA. He still is just 21 years old with his 22nd birthday approaching later this week. King worked a scoreless inning. Despite all the walks, at least he remains hard to hit with just 2 H in 11.1 IP over his last ten appearances.
R: Giants lost to Cubs 7-5
Scottsdale: C Joe Staley: 1 for 4, HR, SO
Scottsdale: SP Gaspar Santiago: 2.0 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 2 K
Scottsdale: RP Matt Graham: 1.0 IP, 2 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 1 K
Staley had his first HR this month and 4th HR overall this year.
The 20-year-old Santiago allowed a few runs in his second start after nine relief appearances. Today's runs were his first runs allowed in over a month. Also allowing 3 ER was Graham, whose ERA rose above 7.00.
DSL: The Gigantes concluded their season on Saturday
(After winning their division by two games, their first playoff game will be next Friday August 27.)
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Belt is good
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 23, 2010 12:08 AM PDT reply actions
Man, if he can be an average left fielder
I’ll be pretty giddy.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Average-fielding***
Not a league-average left fielder.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Belt hit 94 from the mound in high school
by Bus on Aug 23, 2010 3:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
If he could be an average first baseman
I’d be pretty giddy
It’s weird being excited about young position players in SF
Q: What are the chances Belt gets called up when rosters expand? I’ll be in Richmond on September 4th and I’m going to catch the 2nd to last Squirrels game of the year. Rosters expand on Sept. 1, will they call him up right away or will they wait for AA to finish their season?
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I’m guessing that they don’t hesitate to bring him up, considering Richmond isn’t contending for anything.
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That happened to me
With Belt, I was going to drive out to Rancho or San Bernardino to go see him play with the little Giants and then he got promoted. It made me sad I really wanted to meet him.
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t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
I don’t think that they’ll promote him right away. The did call up Posey and Runzler last year on Sept. 2nd, but that was because they needed another bullpen arm and a catcher badly (Molina was malingering with the leg injury at the time).
However, with the logjam in the OF and at 1B, where would Belt get any ABs? Certainly Bochy isn’t going to be in any hurry to start him ahead of any of his prized vets. Unless they DFA Ishi between now and then I don’t see them in any great hurry to get Belt to SF.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
You are probably correct. However, I would add that if the current slide continues and it becomes clear that they are out of contention (5+ GB in WC??), it would then be quite useful to get a look at Brandon in the bigs.
Remember, he’s not on the 40-man roster, so they’d have to DFA or put somebody on the IL to make Belt eligible. That being said, I think that he’ll get called up as long as they’re still within at least 5 games of the wildcard, I just don’t think it has to be on Sept. 1. Remember, the rules allow the minor leaguer to be called up on any date after Sept. 1.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I’d also guess that the team being unexpectedly responsible for Ross’ $1.1 mil salary will cause them to curtail the number of September call ups just as a financial contingency.
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I don't see it happening
The Giants already are getting hit with roster problems now that Cody Ross has to be added. Who would get DFA’d?
If that wasn’t an issue, I could see Belt come up once the minor league season was over (not on Sep. 1st, I think they’d want him to play more).
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by BruteSentiment on Aug 23, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Just Sayin'…
Year Age Tm Lg Lev Aff G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
2002 22 2 Teams 2 Lgs AA-A+ TEX 86 375 321 63 102 21 5 19 69 5 2 46 60 .318 .413 .592 1.005 190 6 7 0 1 2
2002 22 Charlotte FLOR A+ TEX 38 175 150 32 48 10 2 9 41 2 0 21 24 .320 .411 .593 1.005 89 4 3 0 1 2
2002 22 Tulsa TL AA TEX 48 200 171 31 54 11 3 10 28 3 2 25 36 .316 .415 .591 1.006 101 2 4 0 0 0
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Year Age Tm Lg Lev Aff G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
2010 22 2 Teams 2 Lgs A+-AA SFG 120 522 433 85 156 37 10 19 100 20 8 79 84 .360 .460 .624 1.083 270 2 5 0 5 4
2010 22 SanJose CALL A+ SFG 77 333 269 62 103 28 4 10 62 18 7 58 50 .383 .492 .628 1.121 169 1 3 0 3 3
2010 22 Richmond EL AA SFG 43 189 164 23 53 9 6 9 38 2 1 21 34 .323 .402 .616 1.018 101 1 2 0 2 1
1 Season 120 522 433 85 156 37 10 19 100 20 8 79 84 .360 .460 .624 1.083 270 2 5 0 5 4
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Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Teixera might actually be a good comparison because it seems that Belt has a lot of the same tools, and is somewhat a similar player,similar build, etc. I think we would all be ecstatic if Belt turned in to a Teixera type player.
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by Giant Torture on Aug 23, 2010 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions
It could be something similar to Morneau/Mauer.
That’s the ceiling.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Their AA numbers are shockingly similar
Although it is a SSS, but Belt would get the advantage when league and park are taken into consideration.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Actually comparing Belt to Morneau is probably selling him short
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Belt will be more of a Barry Bonds/Albert Pujols hybrid, but as a Gold-Glove RF.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Belt won’t be a GG RF. He just doesn’t have the range needed – especially in AT&T. He can very well be a GG 1B – especially if he can put up a slash in excess of .300/.390/.480. Even though they won’t admit it, the voters almost always reward the GG to the guy that is also hitting the ball well.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Premature prospeculation.
Belt
Wheeler
Neal
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Aug 23, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, no one looks at range for GGs like they should
As long as you can hit, are popular, and make it look good, you’ll win one (the Derek Jeter way).
So he'll be the undisputed greatest player of his generation?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Aug 23, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I did not realize he stole 20 bases on top of it
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by NuschlerFace on Aug 23, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Hank says the Giants DFA’d Matt Downs to make room on the 40 man for Ross.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Which would seem to indicate they won’t be DFAing anyone on the current roster to fit Ross in, so I’d expect a DL assignment for Schierholtz.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Even Baggs has kind of been ripping Schierholtz
And I dont like it. They talk about how he isn’t hitting and how bad he looks at the plate. It’s like they were getting us ready to DFA him which I’m kind of surprised they didn’t. It just irritates me because I know he’s not as bad as his numbers say he is and I don’t know, maybe his hitting wouldn’t be so shitty if he was playing everyday.
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t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Nate isn’t an everyday player. However, he’s not a guy who should be used solely as a pinch hitter, late inning defensive replacement either. He should get a lot more spot starts than he’s received.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 23, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I have to say I find that pretty difficult to believe. I think the reason he’s so frequently looked like a shitty hitter in his major league career is that he’s kind of a shitty major league hitter.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
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by Roger on Aug 23, 2010 9:50 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I have been a big Nate supporter based mainly on his very pretty minor league line. However, it is increasingly difficult to blame this on anything other than the fact that he is not very good. I do cling to the stretch he had last year (July?- not this spring which was clearly a BABIP festival) where he looked awesome before getting hurt and then relegated to Velez’s backup. In the end, I am afraid it is time to admit that Nate will soon be joining his friends in Canada.
maybe his hitting wouldn’t be so shitty if he was playing everyday
I’d love to see Nate blossom, but c’mon, the guy has hit 9 HRs in more than 700 big-league PAs and a SLG below .400. A lot of young players are able to show their power in limited roles. It’s possible Nate’s been screwed by the Giants, but part of being a successful big leaguer is maximizing your limited chances.
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In other words . . .
. . . if you get lucky, you’re lucky, and if you don’t get lucky, you’re unlucky. Where is Joe Isuzu when one needs him?
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I’m not sure luck has much to do with it. Hitting the ball into holes and in front of fielders — BABIP — is somewhat luck-driven. Hitting the ball into the gaps and over the fence is much less so. You can say Nate hasn’t gotten a fair shake to show his skills over a larger sample size, but you can’t say that he’s been relatively punchless because he’s unlucky on the field.
A lot of young players show signs of hitting for power in limited time spread over a couple years. Nate is not one of them. It doesn’t mean he’ll never hit for power, but so far, by the numbers and by most scoutish assessments, he hasn’t shown any sign that he’ll be able to.
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His power factor is around 1.5.
That is not a super-slugger, but it is far from punchless. Punchless guys cluster around 1.32 or so (except for the now-rare true Judy hitters, who cluster around 1.22). A PF of 1.5 is about the low end of “fair power” hitting. (There is essentially no one below 1.2; there are virtually empty gaps between 1.23 or so and 1.30 or so, and between 1.35 or so and 1.50 or so.)
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another convenient injury…
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 23, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I hear that his shoulder is hurting.
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Dammit
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t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
I like Matt Downs
But it’s not worth a freakout
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by NuschlerFace on Aug 23, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
nvsfg and I would like to disagree. DFA’ing Matt Downs is an outrage! It’s like Yorvit Torrealba all over again. This organization has no idea of how to value any players, especially mid-range league-averagish players.
I weep.
While you were reading this, Carlos Willoughby just stole second base.
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The crime here is the (mis) management of the 40-man roster. It is borderline malpractice. I do not understand why Darren Ford, Francisco Peguero, or Brett Pill (I will leave Gillaspie out of this) are on the 40-man. But those decisions are done and none of them would be on the top of any list of potential DFAs. However, if you have a choice between retaining Downs or Velez, how do you get to keeping Velez particularly with the organizational depth issues at the relavent positions?
Velez is raking at Fresno! (I’m sure that’s part of their (poor) analysis.)
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What the hell is the plan for SS next season? Downs was a legitimate stopgap option instead of Fontenot, IMO. Welcome back Vizquel, lol?
by The Wisdom Cow on Aug 23, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
There's probably not much of a difference
between Fontenot and Downs…
by AmorVincitOmnia on Aug 23, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
You take that back!
Seriously, given the outrageous contracts of Rowand, Zito, and (relativeley) FSanchez, I don’t see what the problem is with having some Downs/Rohlinger types on the roster.
While you were reading this, Carlos Willoughby just stole second base.
Ha..
Yeah.. Honestly I would have preferred a homegrown Fontenot rather than, well… Fontenot.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Aug 23, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
one has veteran-ness and one doesn’t.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 23, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Rohlinger.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
This is one of the biggest ?s for next season and may be one of the harder holes to fill given the FA and minor league options. It is really too bad Crawford got hurt. Does anyone think he could win a job with an outstanding winter/spring?
no, but Bork has been known to give young guys the job based on a hot ST (Bowker and Burriss), but both of those guys had played in the majors before, which Crawford hasn’t. I think the plan is to bring Uribe back and look for some help. Of course, they could bring Edgar back to be the backup.
Personally, I’d like to see Uribe back with Rohlinger the backup/utility guy given the present options. my darkhorse pick would be that they trade for Jason Bartlett in the offseason.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 23, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
If I were to do a sort of anti-rosterbation
And formulate a roster based only on who is under team control next year, my lineup would probably look like
CF Torres
RF Ross
1B Belt
C Posey
3B Sandoval
LF DeRosa
2b Fontenot/Sanchez
SS Rohlinger
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LOL ROWNAD
That isn’t a horrible place to start if we add some nice things to it, particularly at SS.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Aug 23, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
This
Priority for next year should be
1) Shortstop
2) Shortstop
3) Shortstop
4) Left Fielder
5) First Baseman if you don’t think Belt is ready
For points 4 and 5, the easiest thing to do would probably be to just ask Huff and Burrel if they’d be interested in coming back on relatively cheap contracts (Huff no more than the Sabes-standard 2/12, Burrell no more than like 1/4)
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Have a feeling—it's a sick feeling— that Huff
will want something more like 2/20 and Burrell 2/15
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Aug 23, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind it at all if the Giants would take a stab at getting JJ Hardy in a SF uni for next season. Rumors are that he may actually be non-tendered by the Twins to avoid his arb award raise, but even if they do tender him, it’s obvious the Twins aren’t happy with him and could be amenable to a trade that wouldn’t cost the Giants much.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
These such trades with the Twins
are historically not beneficial to the Giants.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
I don’t know what you’re talking about. As far as I’m concerned, lefthanded hitting catchers are as extinct as the wooly mammoth.
Seriously though, that’s why we’d need BS to play his cards close to his vest and not give any inkling we’re interested until Dec. 2nd. – all teams must decide on whether to offer arb by Dec. 1st.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I don’t hate this. It’d be nice to upgrade at SS, but even if we didn’t, this is a solid offensive and defensive lineup. We could have Rowand and Nate as backups in the OF, and they could platoon in a corner in case DeRosa isn’t right.
I fully expect us to sign a free agent 1B, though.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I bet they'll bring back Huff
Which wouldn’t be all that bad, considering he can shift to LF if Belt comes.
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I actually doubt Ross will be under team control next year (he seems a pretty strong non-tender candidate to me, which obviously was Florida’s plan). Also, I don’t see them inking in Sandoval at 3B again next year. I’d bet he’s moving across the diamond to 1B. Which means Belt has to squeeze into the OF somewhere. If they bring Huff back (I’d be amazed if they didn’t) and conceivably Burrell (slightly less amazed, but a little surprised), then Belt’s probably going to say hello to the San Joaquin Valley next year, at least for a time.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I agree- Pablo’s defense has really slipped. I still hold out hope that he can actually get into some kind of shape in the offseason (maybe Panda and Timmy should join Zeets and Wilson in SoCal). However, that is probably on the order of about 2% likely to happen so yes Panda → 1B which means Belt would have to squeeze into a crowded OF. And that means that Uribe is even more likely to come back…
Uribe
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 23, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
All Star, Omar Infante.
or maybe Alex Gonzalez for 4/52
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Aug 23, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m expecting them to bring back Renteria and/or Uribe. If only one of them, I expect Rohlinger or Burriss to be the primary back-up unless they pick up someone somewhere.
What I’d like them to do is take a flier on JJ Hardy if the Twins have soured on him, or make a run at Stephen Drew. And possibly re-sign Uribe as a super-sub, if he’s willing.
I agree on JJ Hardy, as I posted above. But, I don’t see that there’s anyway the Snakes would trade Drew in their own division unless it was an extremely one-sided deal, so don’t hold your breath on that front.
Oh, and Renteria ain’t coming back unless he wants to accept even less that we paid Uribe this year, which I highly doubt.
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A Dibley Classis
Dibs thinks Nate will go on the DL with hurt feelings.
by The Wisdom Cow on Aug 23, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Mike Kickham's pro debut
6th round pick Mike Kickham had an inauspicious pro debut in the desert last night. He hadn’t pitched in a game since the end of June, so he was rusty. He faced 5 batters and gave up 2 BBs, 1 groundball single, and had 2 K’s. He left with the bases loaded and 2 outs even though he struck out the last hitter he faced (he must have been on a strick pitch count). The next pitcher uncorked a wild pitch, so Kickham was charged with 1 earned run.
Bad news: he has an ERA = 13.5.
Good news: he has a K/9 = 27 and a K/BB = infinity
According to the radio interview that Kickham did last week, he will go home when the Scottsdale team ends their season in the 1st week of September (depending on how they do in the postseason). He’ll then return to Scottsdale the last week of Sept. to get ready for AZ Instructional League play (teaming up with, among others, Gary Brown and Jarret Parker) that will last through the end of October. He’s pitched a lot of innings between college and summer league amateur ball, so he won’t be pitching in any of the winter leagues.
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I’m no math whiz, but wouldn’t his K/BB = 1?
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 23, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
right
scratch that part of the good news, my mind was already on something else when I wrote that.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
and the K/9 would be 18 rather than 27.
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it’s 27. he only got 2 outs, both by K.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 23, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Exclusive Photos of his Debut
I am currently processing the batch from last night. They will be up in a couple hours. I’ll check back in here for some analysis on his debut.
by thevaultsky on Aug 23, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
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Mike threw 22 pitches, was right around 92-93 on the FB and threw a couple CU and Sliders, but I didn’t get a reading on those. He was a bit rusty but hit the glove, Staley didn’t have to move too much. May have gotten squeezed on a couple pitches in the 2 walks. He was having fun though, when Goff came out there to pull him he was laughing.
Thanks!
Great pics as always, Joe, and thanks also for the eyewitness scouting report. I really think that Kickham can get his FB to sit 93-94 with peaks above 95 once the Giants smooth out his mechanics. Exciting stuff to imagine for a lefty.
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Direct links to my favorite pics
Here’s the pics that I thought would be most interesting for those that don’t have the time to click through the 115 new ones that Joe posted in his last 2 sets.
First pic of Gary Brown in a Giants’ uni (he looks fast just standing still!):
http://www.azgphotography.com/Sports/AZL-GAME-49-Cubs-Hohokam/13460534_ZLd8J#979999829_gA46M
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As he promised in his press conference on the day he was drafted, Mike Kickham is well on his way to competing with Timmeh for the longest hair in the org:
http://www.azgphotography.com/Sports/AZL-GAME-49-Cubs-Hohokam/13460534_ZLd8J#980001540_nwUFf
Following are 4 pics to illustrate Kickham‘s mechanics – I don’t see any overstriding here:
http://www.azgphotography.com/Sports/AZL-GAME-49-Cubs-Hohokam/13460534_ZLd8J#979992387_Ep4c2
http://www.azgphotography.com/Sports/AZL-GAME-49-Cubs-Hohokam/13460534_ZLd8J#979992789_FXkVq
http://www.azgphotography.com/Sports/AZL-GAME-49-Cubs-Hohokam/13460534_ZLd8J#979990394_vdyDM
http://www.azgphotography.com/Sports/AZL-GAME-49-Cubs-Hohokam/13460534_ZLd8J#979989279_qBCdV
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Gaspar Santiago – future replacement for Affeldt?
http://www.azgphotography.com/Sports/AZL-GAME-49-Cubs-Hohokam/13460534_ZLd8J#979998464_GRjsy
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Damn, Chuckie Jones can generate some awesome bat speed:
http://www.azgphotography.com/Sports/AZL-GAME-49-Cubs-Hohokam/13460534_ZLd8J#979997406_y8i8U
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Following are 4 pics illustrating Brandon Allen‘s mechanics – I can’t wait to see him starting games in Augusta next year. At 6’6" he’s the tallest pitcher on the team, and since he just turned 19 one week ago he’s also the 2nd youngest pitcher (Kendry Flores is 3 months younger):
http://www.azgphotography.com/Sports/AZL-GAME-49-Cubs-Hohokam/13460534_ZLd8J#979987610_rfhV9
http://www.azgphotography.com/Sports/AZL-GAME-49-Cubs-Hohokam/13460534_ZLd8J#979987270_VAT9Z
http://www.azgphotography.com/Sports/AZL-GAME-49-Cubs-Hohokam/13460534_ZLd8J#979986531_5h5BA
http://www.azgphotography.com/Sports/AZL-GAME-49-Cubs-Hohokam/13460534_ZLd8J#979987013_tNrFT
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Bucardo
He has been giving up more hits, but his GO/AO has still been a very nice 1.86 after 5 starts in SJ. We have to remember that, besides Adrianza, Jorge is pitching in front of an infield that has average range at best. The most alarming thing to me is that his BB/9 has doubled, his LD% has gone up 50% and he’s given up as many HRs in 26 innings that he gave up in 114 innings in Augusta.
He’s up to 140 innings pitched for the year – way more than he’s ever pitched in a season before. I really wish they would just skip his next 2 starts (which are meaningless anyways) and then let him start 1 game in the postseason.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
by the way, for those that didn't see the fanpost
Velez was terrible in the field and on the basepaths yesterday. Decker was visibly upset with him at least once. He was caught stealing once and should have been picked off another time but the pitcher threw the ball into the bullpen.
He’s hard to watch, to be honest with you. And he really does look like Zorak.
"Eugenio Velez reached base five times"
That’s everything you need to know about the PCL.
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Wheeler doing his best Dirty Sanchez impression tonight
Zach Wheeler starts out unhittable tonight for Augusta. He has 5 Ks and no hits through 2 innings, but also has 3 BBs. It was 3 up, 3 down in the first – with 2 Ks and a pop-up. Then in the 2nd he struck out the side, sandwiched around 3 BBs. With his low pitch count limit it looks like he’ll have a hard time making it past 3 innings.
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