Post-game thread: Lincecum loses fourth straight
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 21, 2010 7:17 PM PDT
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Last year, this site was a bitter, angry lot. Some of the glass-half-full types would chide us. The Giants were contenders, they'd chide -- those chiding bastards -- isn't that enough to make you happy? And the stock response was, no, we wasted a historic performance from our pitching staff. Bah and/or flimshaw, the chiders would chide. Everybody's coming back! It will be just as fantastic next year!
See, this is what happens. Things. Things happen. While I'm about 50% less worried about Lincecum than it seems most people are, it's pretty clear he's not the same Lincecum. He was in the conversation for the best pitcher in the universe title last year, but he wasn't close to the best pitcher in today's game.
Things happen. Last year was an amazing pitching performance by the entire staff, but the offense was too wretched to help. This year, the Giants are hitting just a little bit more, but the pitching staff isn't as stellar. They're still good, mind you, just not the once-in-a-generation staff from last year. That's why we were so bitter last season. It felt like this kind of season was coming.
Now go chide someone else. We're bitter today, too.
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Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
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Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
TWSS
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
If we win tomorrow, I think that this will be the worst .500 roadtrip ever.
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My Son
Urban totally just mentioned you on the air.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
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"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Aug 21, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions
wait really?
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
what did he say?
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
He probably said what you said
Plagiarist!
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Heh
I had a big long convo with him about the Freddy/Fontenot platoon – me in favor, he against. Might’ve been about that.
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
Something like
“Logan Dobson is a really smart guy. Every time I mess up, he’s all over me.”
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Aug 21, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
It is true, I am a genius.
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
/trades farm for Lance Berkman
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
To be fair
Correcting Urbs isn’t as hard as devising a cogent trade strategy.
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
I know, I just like giving you shit
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I'd guessed that by now, heh.
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
And damnit, that wasn't that bad of an idea
I think I advocated something like Neal and C prospects for Berkman? But the Astros actually gave him up for less, so I suppose I misjudged the market.
At the trade deadline, Berkman was on an upswing, and he would have been a damn better acquisition than Jose Guillen. Of course, he’s struggled since the trade, but who knows why.
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My Son
I guess if the Giants had traded Neal for him, we wouldn’t have known that he could have been had for so much less, but it was a pretty bad idea.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Right, yeah
I guess I would say this: In hindsight, Neal would have been too much to offer…
But I stand by the idea that he would have been a good player to target. Long history of success, but in a down year, playing for a team that didn’t want to pay for him.
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My Son
I wasn’t really against Berkman, but I was against giving up a B prospect or better for him.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I thought it was for Berkman + Oswalt?
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At varying times it was for both
I think I suggested Jonathan and Joseph for both of them and cash? Something like that. It definitely involved Jonathan because I thought he’d be replaced by Oswalt.
Hell though, I wanted Oswalt all year. Was bummed he went to Philly.
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
He ended up going for a lot less than Sanchez+ in the end too, didn’t he?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Oh yeah
That trade was a fleece on Philly’s part – JA Happ and no-name prospects for Oswalt AND money.
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
Your idea (and mine)
Kieshnick, Gillaspe, Bumgarner, Noonan (and Neal, as a necessity) for Oswalt, Berkman, Pence.
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I also think we talked about Bumgarner for Oswalt + Berkman (and their whole salaries)
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This is coming back to me.
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My Son
Ooooh right
I forgot about the Pence trade ideas. To think that we thought that RFs should have GOOD defense
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
I also thought that Burrell/Torres/Huff would be a LOL defense
But man, Burrell/Rowand/Guillen takes the cake
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I'm trying to think of the worst outfield defense with people who have played a lot of outfield recently (and in that position)
I’m thinking Dunn/McLouth/Hawpe would be the worst
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Wasn’t it Belt, Neal and Wheeler for Berkman + Oswalt?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I'm pretty sure that
All my trade ideas involving Oswalt also involved Jonathan because I wanted Roy to replace him. But you could be right – I said a lot of crazy stuff.
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
I remember one that was in conjunction with trading Sanchez for a bat.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I proposed a few three way trades I think
Jonathan to the Jays for Bautista and Wheeler to the Astros for Oswalt + cash I think.
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
Sorry to interupt u two, but i have a couple noob questions about mccoven, can u answer them for me, feel kind of dumb asking but…..
Its not easy being a giants fan
I can certainly try, but jp is probably smarter
Ask away though! Always better to ask.
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My Son
2cnd what is the purpose of rec, when people rec a fan post or a comment?
Its not easy being a giants fan
Just to show you agree and like it
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
can i rec something or do i have to have so many comments or a time period? still a noob around here?
Its not easy being a giants fan
They are kind of the same but I think maybe contentually [is that a word?] different.
I might have done a +1 reply to agree with Jp’s statement above… but I wouldn’t recommend it to turn it green. Usually a rec [on this board anyway] is for something that is like above and beyond just agreeing. It’s to draw attention to a unique, thought provoking or insightful post.
Or hilarious
Like Grant’s boss
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This is a good way to draw the distinction
Throw up a +1 if you agree with something, and rec it if you think that other people need to see it.
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My Son
Sure
click “actions” at the bottom of any post and you’ll get 2 options – rec or ‘flag’
you know what rec means – flag is to bring something inappropriate to the attention of the moderators (but only if they’re trusted!)
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My Son
Haha
I think a lot of people did – I missed that particular controversy.
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
Nah
Flags aren’t visible to anyone except the moderators – regular posters won’t even know you’ve flagged something, much less turn something green.
What probably happened is that people rec’d the post as a joke.
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
I think flags turn it red for mods if it’s flagged by enough people, but MCCers rarely flag things often enough for that to happen.
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FLAGGED!
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by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 21, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
okay, been wanting to ask these questions for a while now. i really enjoy Mccoven. thanks for your time :)
Its not easy being a giants fan
The price to be here is great enough
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- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 21, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
McC Premium
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
Bigger Fail than Timmy today
And unlike Timmy, he’s stuck with it for LIFE
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
ugh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH1tTlq5-Qk
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
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by Tim LinCyYoung on Aug 21, 2010 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
Only McCoven not to get one of his comments rec'd in the Post Game Thread after that Epic win over the Dodgers.
by cybermaldonado on Aug 21, 2010 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
What a jagoff!
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- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 21, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess I'd just like to apologize a bit.
I know some people were pissed at me today, and it wasn’t my intention to cause anger. I enjoy this site, and have fun posting here as part of the community, even if my heart doesn’t like 100% with the Giants.
Hopefully we get a good game by both teams tomorrow, and then I can go back to (only) being a Giants fan on these boards for the rest of the season, and (hopefully) playoffs.
I think the GameThread and the rest of the site are different animals. Different chemicals floating around the brain leading to harsher words.
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 21, 2010 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is understandable.
It’s hard for a fan of any team to be civil when they witness emotional outbursts disparaging the team/players they enjoy watching play baseball. I tried to keep things friendly, but there was bad timing with some of my negativity regarding the Cardinals lineup, and a rather unexpected offensive outburst.
Ah well, hopefully there are no hard feelings, I’ll probably be around tomorrow to watch the game, as well.
Excuses are…..
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by cybermaldonado on Aug 21, 2010 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Voxx,
please come back tomorrow.
And don’t apologize for your opinion. Gallo del Cielo has your back here.
/turns to others with sharpened spurs . . . Vengan, caprochos, vengan/
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 21, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
You should bring VEP over from Viva El Birdos
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Yeah
They’ve haven’t been as crowded lately as well.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
I think part of it is the time. East coasters like me its no problem, but I figure a good chunk of people are doing stuff at 4pm.
LoL and the other part of it is the general sucking that’s been involved. And, more seriously, a lot of people are back to work/school etc…
This
Everyone I know is leaving for school already, but mine starts really late. Part of starting late is awesome, but now pretty much all I have is McC for the next month.
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
Same
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
/goddam school . . . scratches at dirt . . ./
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by gallo del cielo on Aug 21, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn
I missed yesterday’s game but managed to watch the entire game today? What’s wrong with me.
Mike Adams has thrown over to first (where Rickie Weeks is) maybe a dozen times now. And then they pitched out. And then another throw-over where Weeks nearly got picked off… the Padres are fucking obnoxious even when the Giants aren’t losing to them.
While I am a more half-full glass sort of fellow, I don’t really chide much. If I had, I probably would have agreed that we were wasting an historic season – but I would’ve pointed to the defense as the unlikely repeatable in that season.
Defense can’t explain Timmy’s year, but I do think we’re more than a bit worse off this year in that regard. I almost think it’s worth it, just to have more than one guy in the lineup who can hit the ball out of the infield.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
See, this is what happens. Things. Things happen.
I’ve done extensive research and feel I can safely confirm that this is true. It’s with this in mind, though, that one hopes for the best in the next month and a half. If a guy gets “off track” without a clearly apparent cause, he may just as well hop back on it without a drastic change or a significant amount of time passing.
I’m not trying to put forward an attitude of great optimism here, about Lincecum specifically or the team in general—I’m not feelin’ it, either, at the moment. But…well, things happen.
You’ve researched things happening? I can see that.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
My research seems to indicate that shit happens as well, but I have to see if my result is repeatable.
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
i think we have all already independently verified that particular data point
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
Gallo . . .
remains skeptical.
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by gallo del cielo on Aug 21, 2010 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
If not . . .
. . . you’re in for some extreme abdominal distress.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Ooooh…. the Raiders are playing. I no longer have expectations for the Raiders… there’s very little they can do to dash my hopes.
Niners on the other hand
Have a fantastic opportunity to make me feel like shit this year.
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My Son
I try not to talk about Alex Smith anymore. It doesn’t matter if I defend him. He’s the mothafuckin’ starter. If he deserves it, he’ll defend himself.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 21, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
By playing well, I mean.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 21, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a good position.
And it is one that will make people like me look absolutely foolish if Smith produces.
Plus, man I’m sick of talking about Alex Smith. Aren’t you just sick of talking about Alex Smith?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 21, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
If I blogged about him, sure. As it stands, I only think about him when I hear about the 49ers which, in August, is not very often.
Alex Smith=Casilla
Good arm, no command. If he’s your best pitcher, you’re in trouble.
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 21, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, I’ll say one thing about Alex Smith. His accuracy is fine. Now, it wasn’t fine when his shoulder wasn’t attached to his arm, and that’s exactly when this perception started. Now, it’s just a perception bias. His accuracy isn’t great. But it’s fine.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 22, 2010 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Not on short passes. Mid and long, he’s fine, but he whiffs on the dumps out of the backfield more than any QB I’ve ever watched.
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 22, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
They should definitely be better than last year!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 21, 2010 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I always get excited for the football season, even though I know they'll suck.
This year I actually have some expectation of competence.
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
Sad game
/sad face
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Haha Urban sounds like he's going to crack on postgame
"The Dodgers suck, the Dodgers suck, the Dodgers suck..."
-what passed for good radio when I was 12
by RichHerreraHomer on Aug 21, 2010 7:40 PM PDT reply actions
Timmy’s lookin’ kinda H&M there.
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
by MonochromeGarden on Aug 21, 2010 7:44 PM PDT reply actions
The clothing store?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 21, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
might just be fresh in memory because i just came from there before tuning in to the game.
he was wearing a yellow/black buffalo plaid shirt with button tabs at the shoulders. he’s either a little hipster or he’s trying to start his own dance crew.
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
by MonochromeGarden on Aug 21, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Where’s delorean to judge on Tim’s hipster status when you need him?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 21, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Did the earth just shift on it’s axis or something?
.
.
good thing I proofread that… originally I had the earth shitting on it’s axis.
Some good news
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McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
regression!
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
by MonochromeGarden on Aug 21, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Despite a 2 run pinch hit homer from Matt fucking Stairs. I cannot believe the Padres are getting production out of his decrepit rotting corpse.
Dodgers still can't believe it
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
No animated gifs in the post-game thread, right?
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
I went to the Cards sight today and read their game thread from last night, they are wau more mellow then us.
Its not easy being a giants fan
That’s one out of three!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 21, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
IRL LOL
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
Randy Winn
A little less classy.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Alas . . .
. . . at this time, in this situation, not moving in the standings is effectively moving down.
Oh, it’s a long, long while from May to December
But the days grow short when you reach September
When the autumn weather turns the leaves to flame
One hasn’t got time for the waiting game
Oh, the days dwindle down to a precious few . . . .
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Yeah but there’s what? Seven games left against the PeaBrains? Staying close is good.
Not that playing a 4 game series in their stoopit park is to the Giants advantage… but hey, maybe the Giants will get hot.
This is really what it will come down to
Those games against the Padres are is. There really isn’t any conceivable way we get to the playoffs without beating them at least 5 times out of the remaining 7.
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
April come she will
When streams are ripe and swelled with rain;
May, she will stay,
Resting in my arms again
June, she’ll change her tune,
In restless walks she’ll prowl the night;
July, she will fly
And give no warning to her flight.
August, die she must,
The autumn winds blow chilly and cold;
September I’ll remember.
A love once new has now grown old.
This works surprisingly well for the 2010 Giants.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
That song amazing… although the Simon and Garfunkel version isn’t the one I’m most familiar with.
Sadly, I think of it as that song from Intolerable Cruelty. Although I guess I also think of it as that song from Intolerable Cruelty sadly. It’s an odd song for a wedding…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 22, 2010 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions
True . . .
. . . though the lyrics there are by Maxwell Anderson. Jimmy Durante’s rendition of it has always appealed to me.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
FWIW, I think Timmy's slowly improving.
He got rocked his last few starts, had a lovely first and then got bombed last outing, and this time it was really the fifth that gave him trouble. Having a one hitter that was a homer to Randy Winn is not shitty pitching. Not what we’ve come to expect from him, or even any staff ace, but if he keeps improving like this, we’ll see him do a complete game shutout in…er…March!
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Agreed, and his postgame comments suggest this as well. I think he was around the zone more, for better or for worse – at least he didn’t have the walks as much but giving up the hits to Winn and Feliz were clearly “get it in pitches” when he didn’t have to.
Part of it may have been he didn’t really have a feel for his changeup today (his first one sailed up and in and didn’t break at all), but that’s just my conjecture.
Got some bad breaks on some balls, albeit hard hit, but if we had some better defenders, who knows, the result could have been different. Still tempering any optimism though seeing as that Cardinals lineup today was pretty weaksauce, and was hoping to see a strong confidence-building start tonight.
This is mostly how it seemed to me. The changeup was definitely lacking, and that’s where he gets a lot of his swings-and-misses. And while he was hitting his target more, he was also threw a lot of pitches way out of the strike zone, where even Feliz wouldn’t chase them. He looked better tonight than in the last couple starts, but still a long way away from how he looked in April. Hopefully he’ll continue to improve until he’s an ace again.
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I don’t think today was a depressing Tim outing. I think this was an iffy Tim outing that would have seemed like a normal iffy Tim outing last year.
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 21, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Our defense doesn't help at all
Having Burrell and Guillen in the corners isn’t helping the pitching at all.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
Remember when the outfield was
Torres/Rowand/Nate
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
delicious
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I don't think it would ever be a bad idea to eat that.
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Oh my gosh.
I literally just ate, but that looks sooooo good.
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
After I eat and am full
and I see full it usually never looks good to me, even if it normally it does.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
so how did everything turn out?
by TimLaser and MattyC on Aug 21, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Feels like victory
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That was definitely a good idea.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 22, 2010 1:45 AM PDT up reply actions
A few hours have gone by, and this still looks delicious.
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
I’m only half paying attention to this Raider game… anybody know why Janikowski isn’t playing? A brief interweb search wasn’t much help.
I think they’re giving that Waters guy some play just because he’ll get very little during the season. He played in the first game too, but Janikowski came in when Waters got hit hard on a point after.
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Wonder if Kuip's kid reads McC
colemk21 do i go out to a party tonight or do i beat the water temple in ocarina of time? hmmmmmm. #thuglife
Thuglife?
Really?
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LOL
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t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
perhaps
Everyone come to the @CSNAuthentic BBQ tomorrow. I know Pablo’s not scheduled but I’m sure he’ll smell the free food and make an appearance.
11:32 PM Aug 11th via Echofon
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by MonochromeGarden on Aug 21, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure you're correct!
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My Son
Hell, where would you look?
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Maybe that's why his D is better in AT&T
Balldudes instead of hot girls
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I was at Citizens Bank Park for the last game of the series this week
And for a city not necessarily known for lots of good looking women… there are lots of good looking women at that stadium – from the ball chicks right down to the crowds.
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From the suburbs maybe?
Or like lower NJ?
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That would have to be my guess
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So on this 49er forum I post on, someone posed a question on who would you start if you had a must win (say 1 game playoff) game for the Giants to win. This poster said even with his struggles he would take Lincecum. I said I’d take Lincecum last of the 5 SP’s we have, and I might do that even if he was normal Timmy.
Timmy has seems to wilt under certain pressures and he also can’t handle the heat (temp) sometimes. I also think he’s the most easily rattled of our 5 starters. He gets bothered by blown calls or bloop hits, errors etc more than any of the starters we have. In essence, he lets his emotions get the best of him and it effects his game at times. Which, in a must win game, I wouldn’t want to have to worry about.
I said I would slot Sanchez after Tim, in order of least to most likely to select for my starter, as Sanchez is inconsistent. While I love his no-hit type stuff and ability to be a shutdown guy at times, I’d also worry that he might lose his arm slot in a must win game and be too ineffective or not eat up enough quality innings to make an impact. I’d still take him over Timmy though if I had to choose between the two.
Bumgarner I’d slot third, as he has an “Fuck You!” attitude towards hitters and has a lot of poise to him, a lot for a rookie. He reminds me of Noah Lowry in this regard, as he pitches like a 10 year veteran and not a that or a rookie. It’s hard to rattle him and he will fight you to the death on the mound. Great competitive spirit, and he also has very good command of his pitches and pounds the strike zone, which I would find to be ideal in a must win game. He’s almost assured to give you 6 to 7 quality innings and give your team a chance of winning an important game.
Zito or Cain, I would put in slot #1, as Zito may have a slight edge in that he’s more experienced and has a good record in playoff/big games. Cain, I feel is just as poised and can easily handle the burden of being the stopper if given the ball. Plus, it seems like if given the chance he would shine as the baseball gods owe him some kind of glory after years of living in obscurity due to poor run support which makes people think he can’t win.
So what say the McCoven? Sorry for the rambling post, but I thought it make for an interesting convo in this thread.
Interesting Idea
I’d take Matt Cain, no doubt in my mind. He has the highest QS% on the rotation (and it’s tied for 5th highest in the league).
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I’d put Lincecum Game 1 simply because you’re going to be facing a Halladay/Hudson/Wainwright, so chances aren’t very good anyways.
Doesn’t matter though since if Lincecum doesn’t get back on track there will be no postseason for the Giants.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Yeah, Cain or Zito 1st.
Timmy I dunno, he seems to get the nerves… All-Star Game, Opening Day, he doesn’t seem to pitch well, or as well as you’d like him to in those situations. At least Zito’s been there before. I guess Cain hasn’t had that many opportunities, but you just kind of assume he’d be okay.
He pitched fine this year on Opening Day
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
This year, but last year not so much, if I recall correctly, which I probably don’t since I’m dead tired… he didn’t do so well at his 2nd All Star game either pffft or the 1st. Seems like he needs to experience something once to get a feel for it, there’s a third example I’ve used in the past to illustrate this point and now I can’t recall what it is/was.
He sometimes appears to have a difficult time with the adrenaline rush. Or maybe it’s just pregame festivities that take him out of his usual whatchacallit ? routine…
I don’t think there’s any way you can read anything into his opening day and all star starts.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Especially since over the course of his career
What would be considered “high pressure situations” are, like, 3 starts. 2 opening day, 1 all star appearance. That’s not a good sample.
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My Son
Well
He pitched more or less the same in the first and second halves last year, if that helps.
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Didn't he dominate the Rockies in a must-sweep series last year?
In September?
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You mean like this: http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SFN/SFN200908280.shtml
or this: http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SFN/SFN200909140.shtml
?
19 K in those 2 games
:(
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I can see Cain over Lincecum at this point, maybe
But it’s insane to pick any of the lefties over Lincecum, especially Zito. I mean, hello people? The same Zito who’s sporting an inferior FIP and tRA to Lincecum and who has been terribly worse than Lincecum since 2007? Really?
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Thanks, Hobbes, for the thoughtful post,
but as I’ve said elsewhere, until the playoffs, what does #1 Pitcher mean? Nothing, I think. Maybe the pitchers themselves get off on it like an alpha dog thing, but what does it matter except when a 5th starter can be skipped on occasion?
In the playoffs, a manager will choose his best 3 and reconfigure the relief options.
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by gallo del cielo on Aug 21, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d take Lincecum. When push comes to shove, take your best pitcher, and that’s still what Tim is in my mind, despite the rough stretch.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 22, 2010 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Did everyone really think Lincecum was that bad today?
He looked much better to me – hitting his spots for the most part, good break, and even some regained velocity. In the end, he got screwed with some bad defense and an unlucky few hits. What was I missing that made this outing as awful as people are describing it?
he gave up a HR to Randy Winn and an XBH to Pedro Feliz
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
We were laughing during the game, on those ad things behind the batters… one inning it was “Mutual of Omaha”
The reason I mention this here is that your comment made me wonder how many runs would score if the Wild Kingdom defense wasn’t playing behind him.
Marlin: “Now Jim will carefully approach the Giants outfield….He creeps closer….Ah, they’ve spotted Jim…RUN JIM!!….THEY’VE GOT JIM!!!….NO….HE SLIPPED THROUGH THEIR HANDS AND IS ROLLING TO THE WALL!! Looks like Jim will escape unscathed THIS time! Tune in next week for another episode of Mutual of Omaha’s Wild Kingdom. I’m Marlin Perkins…Goodbye until next time”
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by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 22, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
No, when compared to his recent outings, I believe he’s making progress. As Grant stated previously up in the thread. This was more like one of his iffy outings of last year. I think if you just look at the final line, it does not paint a pretty picture. But if you look at how he pitched each inning, you would come away seeing lots of positives.
Crazy Crab despised in the 20th century and beloved in the 21st century. Hey it only took over 20 years, so don't give up hope.
TINSTAAPP
Strasburg hurt again. Strained right tendon in his forearm.
Sadly I think this will be a trend for him.
HE'S GONNA BE ONE OF THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME NO DOUBT!
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by sfgiants420 on Aug 21, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
They should probably shut him down
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Fixed
They should probably definitely shut him down
and they should have shut him down for good last time. Did you see the look on the manager’s face in the aftermath. He looked like he had accidentally been the one to wipe out an entire village of kids in Afghanistan. In case any forgot, this is his first professional season.
BUT THE TICKETS AND JERSEYS!
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if Timmy did not fall apart this year, we would be ahead in the wild card and neck and neck with the pads.
If your ace loses 4 in a row, and has become the worst era out of your starters, it looks now as if timmy is our number 5 starter. and he cannot beat other aces, and has less than a 50% chance of beating other teams fifth starters.
Please skip his next start. Perhaps Hacker can come up for a game. Is he on the Roster?
I still do not understand how this team is in contention
It seems as we’ve been fucked by horrific luck at every turn and the padres haven’t missed a beat yet we’re only 5 out and 1 back in the wild card.
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by sfgiants420 on Aug 21, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe
we are good?
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
That's just crazy talk!
/puffs pipe and ruffles newspaper
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
/adjusts monocle, sips aged brandy, and gets comfy in evening satin robe
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
Wow
I was thinking of something witty to say in response to that and you just blew me away.
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by sfgiants420 on Aug 21, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
near TWSS
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by sfgiants420 on Aug 21, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
/begins to re-tell lengthy stories of African safaris past
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by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 22, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Easy:
Immense good luck on allowing runs. With the stat line the pitching staff has, normally about 60 more runs would have scored by now. Without that luck, this is a barely over .500 team. That’s how.
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Just pretend Timmy is the #5
and Zito is the #1 tomorrow.
Which is kind of true :(
by BrianIsAwesome on Aug 21, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Timmy’s been Bochy’d (which is basically like being Dusty’d) (or alternately Dusted or Baked)
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 21, 2010 10:05 PM PDT reply actions
This is true
I’m surprised Cain has lasted this long to be honest. He’s been near the top in pitcher abuse year after year.
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LOL BORK
All star manager knows best don’t question him!
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by sfgiants420 on Aug 21, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Pedro Feliz and Randy Winn the hitting stars of the game.
Crazily, Pujols is legit as a triple crown candidate again, after a slumping July.
Yeah that's crazy
considering he was sittingat 25 dingerz hitting about .290 and everyone was calling him trash and “over the hill” LOL STL MEDIA.
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by sfgiants420 on Aug 21, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Sleepy time
As painful as this roadtrip has been, if we win tomorrow it’s .500
Can’t really ask for more against 2 of the best in the NL. So let’s win tomorrow eh?
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No more feliz or randy winn hits
/pujols hits 3 dingerz
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by sfgiants420 on Aug 21, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Knowing TLR its only a matter of time before he gets more
/signs J.T. snow and rich aurila to MLD deals for veteran presence to go along with feliz.
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by sfgiants420 on Aug 21, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, if we don't hit .500 today, the trip's a loss!
…er….wait.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Missed entire game
Was that a good idea? How bad was Timmy?
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 21, 2010 10:38 PM PDT reply actions
It was a lot better than it looked
Carp was pretty bad and was behind all night unfortunately the giants got confused and kept trying to pull sinkers.
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by sfgiants420 on Aug 21, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Not to mention he was able to live off of the outside curveball.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Apparently curveballs a foot off the plate that you can’t hit get called strikes after tony la russa cries his eyes out after a game.
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by sfgiants420 on Aug 21, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Did he say" That’s my pitcher, and it’s unfair."
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 21, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
i thought in the AB against timmy
Carp threw really low curveballs and the ump called them all strikes
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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Aug 21, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Pat burrell had a called strike 3 on a 1-2 count that would have hit him in the head if he didn’t move.
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by sfgiants420 on Aug 21, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
That sucked, that basically was our last chance to do something and took the bat out of Pat’s hands.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Are you kidding me?
Are they going to review this game?
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 21, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
PROTEST!
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
LOL
Maybe if the yankees, red sox, or phillies ever got burned by horrific biased umpiring something would happen but that never will so yeah.
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by sfgiants420 on Aug 21, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Same thing over and over
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
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You cannot review, or protest, judgement calls.
Except home runs, and those only at the time.
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Ah yes....
Inevitable Giant hack mode. Well a win tomorrow will be nice even though I will not be able to listen yet again.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 21, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you just too sensitive to tolerate the torture, lass?
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by gallo del cielo on Aug 21, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Guillen has been ok so far as a Giant
still don’t enjoy the trade but hey he’s been great
i thought Timmy made good steps towards progress and Sandoval looked sharp on D tonight
2/3 from the Cards aint nothin to sneeze about. lets hope the giants can do it tomorrow
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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Aug 21, 2010 10:39 PM PDT reply actions
Will never admit Gullien does anything good.
Emotionally can’t do it. If he hits the walkoff homerun in game 7 of the world series I will convince myself it was Posey or Sandoval, because that’s how I roll. I hope he plays well. I really do but I’m just waiting for him to explode.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 21, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
He's still a hack
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
based on the last week
it seems that the Giants will only win if I don’t watch/listen to the game.
Fortunately for the Giants, I will be taking my jinx to see the Cubs tomorrow.
Go jump in Toews Lake.
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You’re going to submit yourself to the “Wrigley life” and watch the scrubs play the braves?
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by sfgiants420 on Aug 21, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
it’ll be my first time going to wrigley to root for the cubs.
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nice
I support the braves losing I’d like them to fall off so we don’t have to compete with philly for the WC.
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by sfgiants420 on Aug 21, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
exactly my logic
mostly though, tickets were $16, a friend of mine just had her younger siblings move to the area, and a friend from England is only in town another three weeks and has yet to go to a baseball game. (though she does have a Buster Posey shirt)
Go jump in Toews Lake.
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The fact that alex gonzalez will hit 3rd in the braves line up everyday for the rest of the year lets me know they won’t win the NL east. Add in the fact that they plan to play troy glaus everyday at 3rd when he comes off the DL also reinforces that so yeah. Is that girl a giants fan or did you just introduce her to buster and she had to have it?
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by sfgiants420 on Aug 21, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Those make me feel better
If the Braves would fall apart that would make things much easier. But I still don’t see it happening with their pitching.
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then why the hell are you still watching
plunk out your eyes man!
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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Aug 21, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I tried just listening tonight!
and had to leave halfway through. I didn’t think it would count, and it was a small sample size. But it’s growing.
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Aubrey: old German for king of the elves. Huff: English for...huff.
looks like we'll have to settle this... TO THE PAIN
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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Aug 22, 2010 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions
plunk out your eyes man!
I read this as meaning to have someone bean you with pitches until your eyes fall out.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 22, 2010 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Where were you when the Cubs played the Padres?
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 21, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure the Pads would've just won by eight every night
Go jump in Toews Lake.
Aubrey: old German for king of the elves. Huff: English for...huff.
you and the rest of Chicago
Go jump in Toews Lake.
Aubrey: old German for king of the elves. Huff: English for...huff.
So . . .
they still play the blues in Chicago when baseball season rolls around.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 22, 2010 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Did you guys notice holliday bitching after every called strike, carpenter bitched also in a plate appearance, Larussa last night, the reds are right, they are whinners!
Its not easy being a giants fan
Jon Miller made referance last night.
And they complained a lot then. Maybe they figure the umps will just give in.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 21, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
whoops
Was thinking of the Phils game. NM.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 21, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Cuzzi took a victory away from us against the mets, cost us a victory and the giants didnt bitch, said if they hit with risp better they could have won the game alot sooner.
Its not easy being a giants fan
We take the high road, hope the umps respect that.
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 21, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
And they don't
gotta love not getting calls at home
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Aug 21, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
PHILLIPS WUZ RITE!
I’ll never get tired of saying that this series.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Yes
They are like the ’98 Utah Jazz of baseball
by WithTechron on Aug 21, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
/jerry sloan screams at refs over jordan going to the line
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Aug 21, 2010 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
the hypocrisy of Krukow made me laugh
he whined about the Cardinals, but he spends about half his mic time making jibes at the umpires. Grow up, Mike.
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
Tony la russa cries about the strike zone after the 1st game
Yet jake westbrook could barely find the zone all night and was saved by the umpire calling ridiculous strikes that weren’t close.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Comes from the manager really. It’s just his influence on the players.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
It'd be nice if bochy bitched about the zone
Instead he plays it cool and thinks that does something to inspire the team.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Aug 21, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
No, it wouldn’t. Having your manager piss and moan is not a positive. LaRussa’s act is tired.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 22, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Letters and numbers
One thing I am learning about the Giants is that they don’t have their names on the home uniforms, which makes it easier for a player traded to get a jersey right away, but why are the numbers different sizes on different uniforms? Ex. – Aubrey Huff has little numbers on his back, while other guys also with two-digit numbers have larger ones.
So yea, watching the little league world series was way more fun
PING
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Turns out Canada plays also.
Who Knew!?
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 21, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Little League
Trouble is most of those kids are too big to play on a Little League field.
Jason Bay
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 21, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Justin Morneau, Joey Votto
you hosers
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
/shift-A
Missed the game, avoided the GDT, Giants lose.
Looks like my superstition just died.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 21, 2010 11:14 PM PDT reply actions
Eh, I guess so.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 21, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t blame you anymore I suppose.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
I suppose not.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 22, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I believe I just heard Rob Neyer on ESPN radio say that Andres Torres is a dark horse candidate for MVP.
wow
What show did he say that on?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Aug 21, 2010 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I think so
I like that rob neyer recognizes torres greatness unfortunately he’s one of the few national guys who knows who he is.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Aug 21, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
The host asked about Huff’s chances and Neyer’s take was that Huff’s defense wasn’t outstanding enough.
uhh
I think the fact that huff has played first, left, and right great all season and carried the team offensively is more than enough.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Aug 21, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
4th in the NL in WAR
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffttt WAR!
Wut about the ribeyes!!?
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 22, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't swear a lot
but HOLY MOTHERFUCKING LOVE OF SHIT PEOPLE, ARE YOU REALLY SAYING THAT YOU’D RATHER TAKE BARRY MOTHERFUCKING/I’VE HAD MY FIRST GOOD SEASON WITH THE GIANTS THIS SEASON ZITO OVER TIM 2 CY YOUNG/SUPERIOR STATS LINCECUM??!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK, SERIOUSLY?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Can I take Bumgarner over Zito without you blowing up?
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 21, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
It's close, but I think I would take Bumgarner over Zito too
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I heard on the radio right after the trade deadline that he will be a Cy Young winner soon so thats why we should have traded Dirty for Prince or Dunn.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 21, 2010 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I hear a lot of crazy stuff on the radio
It’s why I stopped listening to it. And when Damon Bruce (I think) suggested the Giants trade Zack Wheeler for someone, when Wheeler could not yet be traded, I nearly blew my gasket.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
PTBNL?
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
Before he could be a PTBNL, in 2009
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Ah, well, that’s sports radio. I remember when Urban was going on and on about the Giants signing Carlos Pena a few years ago. Somebody doesn’t understand what arbitration is.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
LOL
Damon bruce also said that the cubs are “way more of a big deal” than the giants.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Aug 22, 2010 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions
When I was younger I kind of liked Bruce a bit because he could be funny. But then I realized he was just as stupid as all the other hosts, and just did a better job hiding it with his arrogance.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
The idiots on the Sacramento ESPN affiliate do this “As we see it in Sacramento” bit… The one I heard them going off on last night was all about how in that play the other night against the Phils.. the one where Panda and Nate got all f’d up on the double play thingie to end the inning….
They were berating Panda, but also the umps saying that they should have called the infield fly rule. I’m sure the neighbors appreciated me yelling at the radio, at 10 pm, “there was only one runner on, no force at third…no infield fly rule!!”
…and you people get paid to be on the radio sharing your “knowledge” Ugh
Actually I’m with you on this, although I may have expressed it somewhat differently.
/adjusts glass to the tip of my nose
Crazy Crab despised in the 20th century and beloved in the 21st century. Hey it only took over 20 years, so don't give up hope.
“glasses”
Crazy Crab despised in the 20th century and beloved in the 21st century. Hey it only took over 20 years, so don't give up hope.
It was more impressive when it was a glass… I was imagining it filled with delicious beer.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 22, 2010 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Can you tell me how you really feel?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 22, 2010 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd take Matt over Tim at this point
But not Barry, probably.
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
Anyone want to become FB friends?
It is my wifes and I’m trying to overtake it slowly to drive her insane. Also be nice to stay connected 24 7.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 21, 2010 11:46 PM PDT reply actions
I don't think this is going to go over too well with her
She’s not going to like all these NERDS filling up her newsfeed
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Hence why I'm doing it.
Imagine her reaction to all the post about how beer makes the Giants likable. I post LOL Cats on her page all the time just to get to her.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 21, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh man
I hope you like sleeping on the couch.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
For this?
see more Lolcats and funny pictures
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 22, 2010 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Strawhats
won’t buy kibeyes.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 22, 2010 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
IS AWESOME!
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by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 22, 2010 12:06 AM PDT reply actions
Interesting article about buster and heyward
http://www.albanyherald.com/sports/headlines/100093089.html?ref=089
The formatting is horrific but I found it a great read.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Wow that sounds awful for Buster. But I think he’s recovered quite nicely.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
At least he didn't GIDP to end the game
He just got a preview of what he’d see in his future as a giant.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Aug 22, 2010 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Our pitching this year is really, really good
I don’t think it’s all that much worse than last year. All of our starters have ERAs in the mid-threes. How many other teams in baseball can say that? Don’t sleep on the bullpen, either. Wilson, Romo and Casilla have been lights-out. Mota, Runzler, Ray and Lopez are solid. Batista blew, but you got to admit we’ve got a pretty sick staff.
Mota blows
But at least he was legit for the 2 months of the season.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Aug 22, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Last year the team ERA+ was 123. So far this year it’s 121. So… yeah… I guess you’re right.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 22, 2010 1:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it’s just more balanced. Zito’s been much better. Cain could have his best season of his career yet, as well as Sanchez. And Bumgarner has been fantastic for a #5 starter. So spots in the rotation have improved, while the 1 is still good but taken a serious step back.
And the bullpen: Romo and Wilson are awesome, and the rest is frustrating but still pretty good for middle relief (since MR typically suck anyways).
If you want to summarize our pitching, it’s this simple. They strike out more than anyone in baseball. They also walk more than anyone in baseball.
"There was hatred. And they had some hatred. And then there was some more hatred. And then the Giants won. Woo hoo!" - Mike Krukow
I was at the game...
The tobias family just completed a 3-games-in-3-days road trip. I was in Chicago already, and my wife drove the kids out from Southern California(!) to join me at the end of my conference here. We saw Cubs-Pods at Wrigley on Thursday, Brewers-Pods at Miller Park on Friday, and Giants-Cards at Busch last night. Sat in the very top row, right behind home plate.
I know we’re all looking for hope and silver linings here, but I have to say I wasn’t that impressed with Timmy’s outing. I mean, sure it was better, and I was pleased to see his velocity up a little, and also impressed that his strikes to balls ratio started out very good. Still, for me, last night didn’t really resemble what we’ve come to expect from Lincecum and what I think we’re hoping he’ll get back to: dominating mid-to-upper-90’s stuff with lots of movement, swing-throughs and K’s.
Last night, for the first three innings, Timmy was hitting spots better, keeping the ball down and getting mostly ground ball outs (6 ground ball outs, 1 pop up, 1 K, 1 sac bunt). It was effective enough, but watching the game, my sons and I (even my oldest, who often chides me for being overly pessimistic) felt like it was just a matter of time before the Cards’ bats would get the best of Timmy. Sure enough, in the fourth, the Cards started hitting the ball in the air and they started hitting the ball hard (7 balls in the air, 3 ground balls—all hard hit and all base hits, 2 K’s of hitters, and 1 K of pitcher attempting to bunt).
Maybe it’s because I’m too pessimistic, or maybe it’s because I’m in the “Show-Me State”, but I think I’m going to wait until Timmy strings together 2 or 3 truly good outings before I stop worrying and start feeling better.
Lincecum, 2008 – May 15, 2010:
W-L:38-12
IP: 508.2
BB: 167
K: 595
HR: 24
ERA: 2.46
BF: 2051
AVG: .211
OBP: .280
SLG: .298
OPS: .578
BAbip: .296
Lincecum’s last 18 starts:
W-L: 6-8
IP: 108.1
BB: 49
K: 104
HR: 11
ERA: 4.74
BF: 487
AVG: .283
OBP: .360
SLG: .429
OPS: .789
BAbip: .348
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
Still, for me, last night didn’t really resemble what we’ve come to expect from Lincecum and what I think we’re hoping he’ll get back to: dominating mid-to-upper-90’s stuff
I understand what you’re saying here, but during the 2008-May 15, 2010 stretch you’ve shown here, he did not really have mid-to-upper-90’s stuff.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yes he did
Not all the time, but on occasion, for sure. His velocity has dropped from ‘08 (when I think it’s fair to say his fastball did tend to run mid-to-high 90’s) to ’09, and again from ’09 to this season.
I don’t know. Maybe it’s not even realistic to hope for a return to that type of velocity and dominance. What Timmy did during 2008 and 2009 was, well, freakish.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
Getaway day lineup. Welcome back, lolribe.
Rowand cf,
Sanchez 2b,
Posey 1b,
Burrell lf,
Guillen rf,
Sandoval 3b,
Uribe ss,
Whiteside c,
Zito p
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 22, 2010 9:02 AM PDT reply actions
Ugh Rowand ugh Rowand ugh Rowand
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
oh god it's the Burrell Rowand Guillen OF
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
no Huff OR Torres???
We are fucked
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
plus Sanchez batting second and Whiteside starting oh lord
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Truly a LOLineup
We don’t want to win.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
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