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Torres' contract status?

McCoven, I seek your knowledge. 

According to Cot's, Andres Torres is making peanuts since he was brought here on a minor league contract last year.  Do the Giants have to re-negotiate with him to keep him around next year, or is he under team control for a little while?  How long?  Does he have enough service time to be eligible for arbitration, or does the way in which he was acquired negate all of the above and just mean he's treated like a regular free agent?

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Free agency and arbitration eligibility are determined purely by service time, the fact that the Giants signed him as a free agent has no effect on that. Cot’s says that he had 2 years, 115 days of service coming into this season, so he’s should be arbitration eligible starting next season with three more years under team control.

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by Bhaakon on Aug 19, 2010 7:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I figured that this would be the case. I wasn’t sure though, since he didn’t come all the way up with us and had a few cups of coffee with other teams.

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by capnk on Aug 20, 2010 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I swear to god, i was just wondering about this, thanks for asking the question and thanks for the answer.

He deserves some dough. one of the most valuable players in the majors this year.

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by jasonx on Aug 19, 2010 8:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Betcha the G’s try for a multiyear contract. If I ran the zoo, I’d offer a decent raise for 2011 in line with what arb would probably bring, plus a very nice option for 2012 that kicks in if Torres hits certain milestones. That way, the G’s are protected in case Torres’s hamstrings catch up with him, but if he proves himself both healthy and productive in 2011, he gets the money he deserves.

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by leftymalo on Aug 19, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's wise to sit tight

Since Torres isn’t eligible for arbitration until next year, I think it’s wise to sit tight and see how next season looks. He’s been great no doubt about it, but remember how Sandoval looked last year? Imagine if the Giants had signed him to a long term deal with a significant raise…

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by Giant Torture on Aug 20, 2010 5:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why even do that?

Torres doesn’t become a free agent until 2014. Just give him arbitration every year and decide then when he is 36 what to do.

He definitely is going to get a large raise in arbitration. If he produces like he does this year, even 10 million a year is a steal.

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by Goofus on Aug 20, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

right now he’s making barely more than the minimum. he’ll definitely get a raise, but probably in the 550k-700k range. the Giants control all the cards until arb kicks in. Even after Tim’s first Cy Young season, they didn’t give him $1M – they raised his salary from 400k to 650k. The team does have incentive to reward Torres for his awesome season, but won’t go crazy. Plus, at his age, a long term deal would be unwise, especially since they control him until he falls off the cliff.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 20, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, a long-term deal seems frankly unwise. For Torres’ sake, I hope the Giants give him some decent money. He’s at an age where he doesn’t have that long left, although he may still be defensively worthwhile even if he loses an offensive step. He’s such a good story and seems like such a good guy that I hope he gets into arbitration and makes some dough.

Of course, it’s hard to feel that bad about someone who’s going to get paid several hundred thousand dollars to play baseball next year. But ya know, I like him.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 20, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lincecum wasn't arbitration eligible after his first Cy season, so it' not a legit comp.

I’m making my prediction using position players with 3 years of service. Generally speaking, players who are good enough to start full time entering their first year of arbitration (and many who weren’t) got at least 2-3 million last offseason. Torres has been much better than merely a capable everyday starter, however, so I think he’ll get a bit more than that.

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by Bhaakon on Aug 20, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

my mistake

I misread above and thought it said he’d be arb eligible after 2011, not IN 2011, which negates my comment.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 20, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Arbitration

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by MadBum on Aug 19, 2010 9:43 PM PDT reply actions  

A quick look at Cot's

San Francisco Giants Contracts

Andres Torres had 2 years, 115 days of MLB service coming into this season, which makes him first time arbitration eligible next year.

The Giants control his rights for the next 3 years. The logical thing to do here for both sides is to settle on a 2 year deal with a 3rd year team option. Torres’ case for arbitration is somewhat weak because of his track record, and the Giants don’t want to risk Torres having another really good year and go to second arbitration year having to pay top dollars.

I’m going to guess 2 years, 8M deal for Torres with an team option for 3rd year.

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by jctGamer on Aug 20, 2010 11:52 AM PDT reply actions  

From the Giants’ standpoint, I think going year-to-year is better. Given his age and his track record, I’m honestly not sure how long Torres can keep this production up. On the other hand, I wouldn’t mind seeing Torres get set for life with a nice two-year deal.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 20, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree, after his nightmare journey through the minors. would be a good story to be set for life, doesnt need to be a huge contract to do that.

 i think he found his groove, i am not so worried he wont perform next year, however im worried his track record of hamstring issue’s will bare its ugly face.

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by jasonx on Aug 20, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tim got a piece of the pie to sighn as a first round pick, not like he’s been broke money wise till now.

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by jasonx on Aug 21, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

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