Why the Giants shouldn't win the wild-card
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 19, 2010 1:17 PM PDT
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PrintThe Giants are now six games back of the San Diego Padres. Boy, that escalated quickly. I mean, that really got out of hand fast.
But the team is still in the hunt for the wild-card. All is not lost. There is still a chance – a legitimate, realistic chance – that the San Francisco Giants can still make the playoffs. All they have to do is win a few games. Maybe a couple dozen or so. A bunch, okay. Fine. They have to win a bunch. But they could do it. It seems like a lost cause right now because we’re down, but they could play like they did last month. Sure.
So this is what we’re reduced to. Rooting for the wild-card. It’s an ungodly, abominable idea, and I write that as someone who supports the concept of four teams in each league making the playoffs. You should root against the Giants making the playoffs as the wild-card. Hope for a stirring divisional comeback against a slumping Padres. Pray for a division title. Forget the wild card. Here’s why:
Giants. Padres. NLCS.
Oh, that first series against the Reds or Cardinals or Braves or Phillies would be gruesome and nerve-wracking. We’d chew our nails down to the cuticles. We’d worry about which Tim Lincecum would show up. We’d worry if the almost-average offense would start hacking at pitches three feet off the plate. More so, even.
But they’d win. They’d take the series. Someone would get a big hit, and someone would pitch a big game. They’d win, and we’d be ecstatic. We’d get confident, maybe. This place would buzz. The city would buzz. Remember how it felt when the Giants beat the Braves in 2002? This would feel better. And then it would happen.
Giants. Padres. NLCS.
David Eckstein would get three hits off balls that deflect off seagulls. He'd advance to second on foul pop-ups, advance to third on wild pitches, and then score on groundouts each time. Adrian Gonzalez would crush us every chance he got. Clayton Richard would allow six doubles with no one out in six consecutive innings. The Giants will fail to score in every one of them. Yorvit Torrealba, methed-out finch that he is, would set an NLCS record for hits in a six-game series. Yeah, I wrote "six-game series." The Giants will take a couple of games. You know, to play with us just a little.
The Giants would scratch and claw and double play their way into a couple of runs to get close, but some faceless slider-tossing goof would come out and shut everything down. He probably isn’t even on the roster right now. One of the current goofs would go down to an injury, and the Padres would just make another one out of mud like an orc. They’d give him a name like "Ryan Davids", and he’d throw 93-mph sinkers and sliders that break five feet. Aaron Rowand just swung at one. He knocked over a water cooler in the clubhouse and everything.
Scott Hairston would hit four home runs. Jerry Hairston, Jr. would be on base each time. Jerry Hairston, Sr. would have six pinch hits. And Harpo Hairston would just stare at you and honk that damned horn while you tried to watch the damned game.
When the Giants load the bases against Heath Bell in the sixth game of the series, down by one run, and Jose Guillen’s fly ball travels 450 feet before it’s caught in shallow center field, you will cry. You will cry like an infant. You will suck your thumb, and you will call in sick to work the next day. The pain will ruin relationships in your life. And then the Padres would lose in the World Series to the Yankees, which would make you bleed from different orifices for different reasons.
So the Giants should probably win the division. And with the wins they’re giving the Phillies and Braves, they’re doing the right thing to ensure that the Padres can’t win the wild-card after they slump their way into second place. Because there can’t be a postseason in which the Giants and Padres make it at the same time. There just can’t. You know how it would end.
I’m in a dark place right now. Forget I wrote this, even if you know it’s true.
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At least he’s got some talent to back up those nice numbers. Garland, Richards, and LeBlanc bug me a lot more.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.
Garland is a solid starter and has been for most of his career. Richard isn’t that bad either.
Their bullpen is fucking ridiculous though.
How does every member of their bullpen have like a 50/3 K/BB ratio?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
This so much, I don’t mind Latos, dude is the next Peavy, but whenever I see Jon Garland 1 hit a team the bile builds up in my stomach, and doesn’t leave
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
Matt Latos
Can indeed suck it.
I hereby launch the Suck It Matt Latos campaign or SAIML, don’t believe? See what happened to Russell Martin, so join me in saying that Matt Latos can indeed suck it. I hope he pitches 4000 innings so that he’ll tear his rotator cuff next April and be out until the middle of 2012. Suck it Matt Latos, suck it!
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
What’s the A stand for?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
-BYOBB
-That’s a typo.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Lisa, you can’t make friends with salad!
Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.
Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Aug 19, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously, I have no idea what’s wrong with the Padres’ players’ names. Wade LeBlanc? Greg Lukerson? Margaret Thatcher? Worst of all is Clayton Richard, who has a normal first and last name, except they’re switched.
by non sequitur on Aug 19, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Sweeney Todd would like a word with you.
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Aug 19, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, Luke Gregerson then. That’s what the “Ryan Davids” reference is about anyway, right? Two normal first names, except one has been last-name-ified by tacking on random letters to the end of it.
by non sequitur on Aug 19, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
So you’re saying that Clayton Richard is a murderer?
Because I believe it.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Clayton Richard
Can also suck it!
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t talk that way about such an unstable man.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Maybe he’ll put me out of my misery and then the day after I die the Giants will win the World Series.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Patience
it’ll happen.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
You know, when I was a kid, I liked to imagine my future as a great baseball player for the Giants. In these daydreams, the Giants were supposed to win the World Series in 2006.
FUCK YOU MY CHILDHOOD IMAGINATION!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
I actually laughed hard and out loud at this comment.
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Shouldn’t it be walrusman’s imagination that does that?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 19, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually sort of like that his name is Clay Dick
I mean, that’s funny and all. Right?
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 19, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
On the bright side...
Bochy is rolling out his DustyBakerSundaySpecial lineup…
Rowand, Franchez, Sandoval, Whiteside, all caked around that tasty filling of Posey, Huff, Guillen, and Uribe.
Prediction: 5 hits. Total. Three of them by Buster.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
/2 by Huff
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident.
Yes, really, I have not updated my blog in a long long time: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
You killed a guy with a stick of sugarless gum?
You are too badass for me.
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
damnit, im going to the game tonight
sitting 6 rows behind the giants dugout, and i get this fucking lineup
rowand CF, Sanchez 2B, Posey 1B, Burrell LF, Guillen RF, Uribe SS, Sandoval 3B, Whiteside C, Sanchez LHP
On the bright side...
The game will be over in 2 hours.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
That is bad
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
BOCHY!!!!!
WTF, why is Franchez hitting second. He’s hitting .250 and doesn’t walk, why does this make sense to that idiot. Sanchez better pitch a no-hitter, only way they have a chance of winning, and I say chance because he may very well walk 6 people.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
You see, the pitcher is left-handed and Franchez is right-handed. It’s called playing the percentages. It’s what smart managers do to win ballgames.
Oh yeah
And you put a fast guy first, the best hitter 3rd and your RBI man 4th, then if they make it to the playoffs you pitch the guys who have the most wins!
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, and we're not fighting the Phillies for the WC
We’re fighting the Braves.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
They really should pick him up. Unlike the others, he has an option for next season.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
Makes sense
Therefore, Sabean is incapable. Man, I wish the Giants had a left handed bat with power they could call up from AAA right now.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d be pretty satisfied with a NLCS appearance.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
Even if it entailed a crushing, heart-wrenching NLCS defeat?
by The Double Deuce on Aug 19, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
The crushing defeat is just kind of implied really.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 19, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone watching Cubs-Padres on WGN?
Ugly inning. Lou Piniella is so done.
of course against us, the Cubs fought to the last out.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
It's possible, just possible that the Padres are in fact better than the Giants
Not sayin’, just sayin’
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Watching the Cubs makes me happy to be a Giants fan
Also makes me realize that things CAN get worse
HAHAHAHAHAHHAA
Baseball America just posted this to Facebook: Vin Scully being baffled about what a mullet is. Someone needs to get this to Jon Miller so he can work it into his impression. Hilarious.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
A mullet’s a fish!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
/And a hairdo
Suck It Vin Scully, just suck it!
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
They had that on Quick Pitch this morning. How can you not know what a mullet is?
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
Man, that was a good look.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Either that or he’s just happy to see you.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
blue should-penis
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Avatar porn?
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
NOW IN 3D!
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
Watchmen says "HEY LOOK AT DR. MANHATTAN'S BLUE FLACCID WANG!"
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Had a girlfriend once whose big gripe with God was that his design for men was flawed.
She said that a man’s dick should have been on his chin.
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
This would greatly increase the difficulty of underwear design.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel like I have typed the word “underwear” a bunch of times today.
UNDERWEAR!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Which word are you typing under there?
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
Under wear? OMG YOU MADE ME SAY UNDERWEAR!!!!
(My kids love that)
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I am surprised you waste time typing it each time.
I would have thought it would be permanently copied to your clipboard or you just run a script.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
They would just have to adapt those feeder masks they use for horses.
And pray to God that you do not see anything that would arouse you.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw_1CIwwEIA&feature=search
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
I am at work, and very weary to click this.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
WHY ARE THE PADRES?!
7th Inning Scoring Summary:
- R. Ludwick singled to shallow left, M. Tejada scored, A. Gonzalez to second
- W. Venable singled to shallow center, A. Gonzalez and R. Ludwick scored, C. Headley to third, W. Venable to second advancing on throw
- C. Denorfia grounded into fielder’s choice, C. Headley out at home, W. Venable to third, W. Venable scored on fielder’s indifference
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 19, 2010 1:33 PM PDT reply actions
Scoring on fielder’s indifference is…interesting.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
Runner: Hey I’m about to score!
Defense: Meh
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
by jhiat00 on Aug 19, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
Hell, we got Headley. That's good enough, ain't it Clete?
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 19, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Fielders indiference
Here’s what happened: Bases loaded. Ground ball to the pitcher, who throws to home plate, and has runner in rundown. Runner is tagged out. Runner from second, meanwhile, advanced to third. Catcher had chased runner almost to third. Now he walks back to the plate, thinking everything is over. No one is covering the plate. Runner from third comes home before anyone can break for the plate. This is what Piniella calls a Cubbie Occurrence.
/shakes head
//punches hole through wall
///kicks puppy
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
WTF?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"You can shake a dozen glove men out of a tree, but the bat separates the men from the boys." - Washington Senators First baseman Dale Long
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I would like their players to get eaten, yes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6Ffr1U7KMY
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
I had a dream last night that David Eckstein ripped my heart out and ate it. Thankfully I woke up.
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
That's the worst part
They have been winning like this without Eckstein! Imagine how annoying they are about to be.
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
by capn on Aug 19, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And Harpo Hairston would just stare at you and honk that damned horn while you try to watch the damned game.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2010 1:34 PM PDT reply actions
wish I were clever enough to think of stuff like that.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
I wish you were too.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 19, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep. Instead you have to read my crap.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Aug 19, 2010 2:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
/sigh
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 19, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Ladies and gentlemen, er, we’ve just lost the picture, but, uh, what we’ve seen speaks for itself. The National League West has been taken over — ‘conquered’, if you will — by a master race of giant space ants. It’s difficult to tell from this vantage point whether they will consume the captive ballplayers or merely enslave them. One thing is for certain, there is no stopping them; the ants will soon be here. And I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords. I’d like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves.
/golf clap
In the end, we all lose. Except some people.
by rain.TheMist. on Aug 19, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
When did we stop doing Simpsons references?
I, for one, never said we should stop doing Simpsons references.
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Aug 19, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Just browsing quotes:
“Books are useless! I only ever read one book, "To Kill A Mockingbird," and it gave me absolutely no insight on how to kill mockingbirds! Sure it taught me not to judge a man by the color of his skin…but what good does that do me? "
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
Forget the Padres. The Giants can't catch them
After today, they will be at 73-47. Even if they shit the bed and go 500 from here on in (21-21), they end up at 94 wins. For the Giants to get to 94 wins, they have to go 27-14 just to tie.
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
What happened to Sean Marshall?
He looked reallly good against the Giants. Too bad he couldn’t get the game to Marmol after a good start by Zambrano (6 walks & 1 K – pitching to contact except for the walks). Even taking 3 of 4 against the Cubs will have been a net loss after Pads get the sweep.
Once, he wanted to be the greatest.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
Yeah, but what would the neighborhood think?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
The padres did not hit a line drive in the 7th inning
and they scored 4 runs highlighted by a will venable 0-2 swing at a curveball in the dirt that he blooped into shallow center and then proceeded to steal home while the cubs were shooting a promotion after the play.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Opportunistic or lucky as fuck?
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Aug 19, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
SCROTUM YANKER
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
PROSTATE MANIPULATOR
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Aug 19, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't worry, guys!
The Giants have a six percent chance at the division! And a 14 percent chance at the wild card! Boy howdy!
PECOTA actually likes the Giants a lot more, with a 43 percent chance at the playoffs. Before the Pads series, I think the PECOTA odds actually pegged the Giants as more likely to win the division. Whoops.
Kevin Pucetas: September long reliever extraordinaire?
Man, that playoff chance was at like 60% just two weeks ago.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 19, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
We can root for the Padres to lose in the NLDS? Right?
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 19, 2010 1:40 PM PDT reply actions
Sigh
@robneyer: Will Venable caught the Cubs napping, with catcher in the middle of the field and nobody covering the plate.
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
Play like this for one more week
And we won’t have to worry about not winning the wild card.
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Aug 19, 2010 1:45 PM PDT reply actions
Seriously, everything about this bullshit inning pisses me off
I know it’s already been posted but how frustrating is:
- S. Marshall relieved C. Zambrano
- M. Tejada walked
- A. Gonzalez singled to shallow center, M. Tejada to second
- R. Ludwick singled to shallow left, M. Tejada scored, A. Gonzalez to second
- C. Headley singled to shallow right, A. Gonzalez to third, R. Ludwick to second
- Y. Torrealba flied out to shallow left center
- W. Venable singled to shallow center, A. Gonzalez and R. Ludwick scored, C. Headley to third, W. Venable to second advancing on throw
- J. Berg relieved S. Marshall
- C. Denorfia grounded into fielder’s choice, C. Headley out at home, W. Venable to third, W. Venable scored on fielder’s indifference
- M. Latos grounded out to pitcher
bs is bs
In the end, we all lose. Except some people.
by rain.TheMist. on Aug 19, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
When the Giants go to Chicago
It’ll be
- S. Marshall relieved C. Zambrano
- B. Posey grounded out to second base
- A. Huff struck out swinging
- P. Burrell flied out to shallow left center
I think more likely would be:
- S. Marshall relieved C. Zambrano
- B. Posey doubles on flyball to right fielder Fukudome
- A. Huff lines out to first baseman Hoffpauir
- P. Burrell hits one a fucking mile into a wall of wind to shortstop Castro
- J. Guillen out at first on groundball to leftfielder Soriano
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Aug 19, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
It's demoralizing the way San Diego beats teams
I would be okay if they were a power team that beat you with home runs. But they beat teams with seeing eye singles, dinks, and bloop hits. That becomes very demoralizing after a while.
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
What’s their team BABIP?
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Aug 19, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s totally normal.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
With runners in scoring position, it’s .317
Therefore, their season is all luck. ALL LUCK.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
20th in line-drive percentage, though, and they're fifth in the league in pop-ups.
LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 19, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm convinced!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
They are a bunch of dinkers and dunkers who hit a bunch of dinks and dunks while dinking and dunking.
Luck? I don’t know. Annoying? Most definitely.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Even .317 doesn’t seem all that weird.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
20 points above their team average is probably fluky.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Yeah, but fluky things happen when you look at selective splits.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Only delicious things happen when you eat banana splits, though.
by Every6thDay on Aug 19, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
NAME THAT POSTED
/60,000 words about how player x is the greatest player of all time because he had a line of .600 / .800 / 1.500 in home day games in the first two weeks of April in games played the day following full moons.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
Tuffy Rhodes
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
NAME THAT POSTER
Dammit.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
If he knew about the interwebs,
I’d say Earl Weaver would say something like this.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
With a lot of "fucks" and "shits" thrown in for flavor
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
...yes?
I mean, isn’t that the point? This is a fluky thing that probably won’t continue to happen?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
My issue has more to do with selective splits themselves than with finding the flukey things about them. When you split anything, there is always going to be variance. That’s just the name of the game. That’s how averages happen. And I’m not sure that 20 points of variance in a split average is really a big deal.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
To put it another way, it’s like looking at something that is almost inevitable going to be variant because you want to find something variant, and then saying “Ah-ha! It varies!”
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I tend to think of split analysis as way to measure contributing factors rather than trying to identify a direct cause.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
But when that variation is a direct contributor to the Padres scoring more runs than would be otherwise expected, it does matter.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I’m taking a look to see how many hits with RISP we’re talking about for the year if we turn that .317 into a .296, but I’m going slow. I’m not trying to prove my point. For all I know, I’m just going to prove your point. I’m just legitimately interested to see.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course the flip side is that I believe Giants pitching is #1 in the NL with 2 outs and RISP at just over .200 or something.
I do realize that we are good and they are lucky…just sayin’
Yeah, but at least the Giants have the decency to regress.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Eyeballing it really quickly, in those 1300 PAs I’d say about 20 or 30 hits.
That’s a really rough estimate though.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
If my math isn’t totally screwed up, I got a difference of 43 hits.
So, maybe 50 to 60 runs.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Somebody could double check for me, but it’s 814 at bats that BABIP applies to. Times .296 is about 241 balls hit minus HRs (26) is 215 balls in play hit.
irl, they have 258 balls in play hit. I’m pretty sure that’s right.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait… something might not be right there. I don’t know if I’m dealing with HRs right.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Because 814*.317 = 258… so I shouldn’t even bother with HRs, should I?
814*.296 = 241. So it’s only a difference of about 17. Maybe 25 runs.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is still about 2.5 wins, and still somewhat significant.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Plus, it could be more wins than that, given the Padres low run scoring environment. At least, that’s what it would seem like to me.
GOT ANY MATH FOR THAT, HOWIE?
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
NOT ANY GOOD MATH
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
They’d still be leading the division, unfortunately.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh. That’s not actually what I meant. I thought it just sounded like it was a bigger impact than I thought. But I’m happy to have caused a sudden surge of self-doubt over your method.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Next, say something about his failbeard.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
My beard method is perfect.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve seen some other analysis on this site showing that overall the Pads have scored about as many runs as one would expect given the historical career performance of their roster.
But their pitching has been way over its head. So if we are looking for regression, it seems more likely to come from their pitching.
Which is, like, 5 or 6 wins, right?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll let you do all the work, but seeing as it’s about 1000 ABs for them in that situation, I’m going to guess it would cost them about 20-25 runs.
Pure guesswork, but I’m curious to see if I’m anywhere near the mark.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
After re-examing, I think your guesswork is about right.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
CALM DOWN
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
by Prussian Creole on Aug 19, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
How do you think it felt for Padres fans against Bonds all those years
And in the early 2000s you guys were all power. THAT was demoralizing.
"No matter what you do, you're gonna die brotha." ~~ Desmond Hume
by All Things SD on Aug 19, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, all those times Bochy, too stupid to find his ass with both hands and a bright flashlight, chose to pitch to Bonds.
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
WE DON’T LIKE THE TABLE BEING TURNED, OKAY?
WE ARE ALL IDIOTS WHO DIDN’T APPRECIATE A RUN OF SUCCESS THAT NETTED OUR TEAM EXACTLY ZERO WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS! GEEZ!
At least your city has tasted championships
Try being a San Diego fan
"No matter what you do, you're gonna die brotha." ~~ Desmond Hume
by All Things SD on Aug 19, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Umm
When did the Giants win the World Series? Okay then
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Key words = "your city"
Niners
"No matter what you do, you're gonna die brotha." ~~ Desmond Hume
by All Things SD on Aug 19, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Football? The sporting equivalent of seven root canals with no benefit of novacaine.
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Football : Baseball :: Dry humping : Doin' it
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
by jhiat00 on Aug 19, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
likewise rec’d, though dry humping can be fun, too. Change of pace and all.
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Aug 19, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I was at the Dodgers-Rockies game the other night with some Raiders fans and they talked about how much they loathe the Chargers, maybe more than anything else they could imagine. I shrugged and said, “I’m a Niners fan. I have fond memories of the Chargers.”
by Every6thDay on Aug 19, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
"No matter what you do, you're gonna die brotha." ~~ Desmond Hume
by All Things SD on Aug 19, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Strange Raiders fans
I’ve given up rooting for the Raiders at this point, but when I did the Chargers were the division opponent I cared least about. I hated the Chiefs and hate-hate-hated the Broncos. Never much cared about the Chargers though. I think it’s a situation where the Raiders and Chargers were rarely good at the same time. Also when I was a kid I enjoyed watching the Dan Fouts/Kellen Winslow teams, so I had a bit of a soft spot for them.
I give Raiders fans credit for one thing
they have stuck with the team for the last 5 years of Al running the show like it was 1970.
He is one of the worst owners in all of sports.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Well, it's been more than 5 years
but the last 5 years he has seemed especially crazy.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Education just for you....
Since the Giants have history, albeit one without a World Series in the last 50+ years, and originally came from New York not all Giants fans are Niners fans, and while the 49ers did kick the ever-loving shit out of the Chargers in Super Bowl, not everyone here celebrated that because a lot of us either no longer live in the Bay Area or never did. That being said a lot of McCoven could give a shit about football or basketball so it really doesn’t carry any weight for them either.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Just how old are you?
The Giants have been in San Fran for 52 years. I would guess most Giants fans are from SF.
"No matter what you do, you're gonna die brotha." ~~ Desmond Hume
by All Things SD on Aug 19, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m a Giants fan and I’ve never even been to Frisco.
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
Don’t call it that.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
/enter delorean
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
hawt mccoven axshun
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
Tell the local Red & White.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
What does that small town in Texas have to do with anything?
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
What about San Francisco?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 19, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
You should probably say San Fran, I hear that’s real popular.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL you guys are my puppets and I am your puppet master!
NOW DANCE!
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
You bastard!!!!
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
The ghost of Emperor Norton fines you!
Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.
Most are
But not all, and it’s a much larger contingent than other teams around the league, partly because they had 2 of the top 3 players ever play for the Giants.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
My parents and grandparents were Giants fans in New York.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 19, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Between New York and San Francisco, the Giants must be the most ELITIST team ever.
Maybe next they can move to Martha’s Vineyard.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
speaking of elitism
I’m very cranky right now because even the crunchy hippie grocery store in Tallahassee apparently doesn’t have broccoli rabe (though they have had it before). VAPORS!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
lol
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I WANT TO MAKE ORECCHIETTE WITH BROCCOLI RABE OKAY!?!?!?
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
I wanna gay marry that
Am I doing this right?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I'm sorry, the Giants haven't won a championship since being in San Francisco.
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I was just saying try being a fan of San Diego Sports
We’ve never won anything.
1 AFL Championship in 1963
"No matter what you do, you're gonna die brotha." ~~ Desmond Hume
by All Things SD on Aug 19, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
and a bunch of 100L's seasons
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
Last 100 loss season was 1993
Last one before that was 1974
"No matter what you do, you're gonna die brotha." ~~ Desmond Hume
by All Things SD on Aug 19, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
But… Lance Alworth.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 19, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
But then it’s Padres fans being demoralized, and that’s just the way it should be.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
Thanks I guess
The fact that we’re getting hate from Giants fans means something. Normally all of your hate is reserved for the Dodgers.
"No matter what you do, you're gonna die brotha." ~~ Desmond Hume
by All Things SD on Aug 19, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
MCC has been hating on the Padres for a while.
Also the Rockies. They originally got hated by Giants fans for being pathetic in 1993, though.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles where there is plenty of hate to go around!
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
39 Flavors of Hate!
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
I hate at least 3 of those flavors!
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
2% hate for the Padres in a normal year
Has been increased to 25% for this year only. The Dodgers still have the majority of our hate reserved for them, so suck it Vin Scully, Tommy Lasorda and Russell Martin, but Matt Latos may also suck it!
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
In their defense
The Padres did field some truly awful teams and also gave Bochy his first managing gig. Thanks again for that.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
It was the Grand Master Plan....
"No matter what you do, you're gonna die brotha." ~~ Desmond Hume
by All Things SD on Aug 19, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't worry
The Verducci Theory says that Matt Latos will need Tommy John surgery next year, good luck with that.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
good point
usually we have a guy get TJ right after we draft them. But being they are usually below average College pitchers, Latos is due to have his elbow fly off in the Cactus league next year.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
The one in the middle looks terrified about what will happen to him after the camera is turned off.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 19, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Wouldn’t yo be terrified of the possibility of Bruce Bochy becoming mayor of YOUR city?
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
That would be a less than exciting prospect, I must admit.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 19, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean, just imagine him double switching the fire chief and the head of the sanitation department.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
/garbage trucks show up at 3 alarm fire
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 19, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
is that howie?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"You can shake a dozen glove men out of a tree, but the bat separates the men from the boys." - Washington Senators First baseman Dale Long
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I hate the Padres a lot now. Those dumb motherfuckers actually gave Bruce Bochy a chance to "manage" a baseball team
Un-fucking-believable
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, Freddy Sanchez is a batting champion
And Gary Radnich has a radio show
And Brian Sabean is a general manager
And George W. Bush was elected president
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Glenn Beck has a TV show
Keanu Reeves is a movie star
Thomas Kincaid is a millionaire artist
Ryan Seacrest . . . fuck it . . .
Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!
by Giantsfan4life on Aug 19, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but the Padres were bad in the early 2000s and the Giants were good, so the Giants were expected to win most of the time. When you guys were winning games in the early part of the Randy Winn Era, it wasn’t really a big deal that you’d beat the Giants. It’s just years like this, when the Giants should actually be playing better against San Diego, that are really frustrating.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
So they never hit homers or line drives? It would be better if they hit a ton of homers & had crappy pitching? I mean pitching & defense is like some sort of black magic only the Pads can create.
Stop acting like your team is the ’27 Yanks. Your offense is pretty crappy & lucky as well. You bitter giants fans are too funny.
Yeah, take that Roslin.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
The holy grail ’neath ancient Roslin waits
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 19, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
No, she’s pretty cool. But like twice a season she makes some really important decision where I’m like, “Dude, you’re kind of an awful person.”
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
And normally I don’t like Helo, but I dig that he totally called her on it just now.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it keeps me conflicted about her, which is good. And the actress plays it extremely well to boot.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Laura Roslin was also the first lady in Independence Day, I found out recently.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
She was especially hot in that movie.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
She is “soccer mom” hot.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d do her.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Aug 19, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec’d
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
To me it always came down to the magnitude of the situation. When you’re responsible for guiding the human race away from extinction, you gotta make some rough decisions.
That said, she doesn’t always make the right choice.
Second this comment.
You could say the same thing about Adama.
Actually, you could say the same thing about every character on this show.
Well, certainly. The path of her corruption from school administrator to politician was fascinating.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Normally, I would make a contrarian remark, but I must agree. Sabean’s an idiot.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
a fate worse than death...
In the end, we all lose. Except some people.
by rain.TheMist. on Aug 19, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh my
"I don’t think I’ve ever heard a louder chorus of boos than when the Dodgers made the third out of the ninth. It was awesome.." - Aubrey Huff
LaRoche
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
LOLaRoche
In the end, we all lose. Except some people.
by rain.TheMist. on Aug 19, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone over Guillen
Including just leaving Huff in right field with Ish at first.
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
Easily. I’m shocked that Hawpe (as bad as he’s been this year) has been released, and that LaRoche cleared waivers entirely.
Especially when LaRoche is raking.
As a punching bag? YES!
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Aug 19, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
been doing that all freaking game…it’s like the padres know where the cubs will hit the ball
In the end, we all lose. Except some people.
by rain.TheMist. on Aug 19, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
why even watch that game and aggravate yourself?
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
Giants fans
Are masochists!
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
good point…i’m gonna go take a shower
In the end, we all lose. Except some people.
by rain.TheMist. on Aug 19, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Finally!
/turns on CCTV
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
i take showers in my backyard with my garden hose O.o
In the end, we all lose. Except some people.
by rain.TheMist. on Aug 19, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
It's all a fluke
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
No shit
As will be evidenced by the padres getting swept in the NLDS.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I have nothing to say, so here's a picture of myself as an Allosaur with a mustache and crown, terrorizing the south of France.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
by Alex_Lewis on Aug 19, 2010 1:59 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
you would make a great French Allosaur.
In the end, we all lose. Except some people.
by rain.TheMist. on Aug 19, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Darn you Allosaurus dictator!
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
Time for a coup de etat
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Here you go.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
are you looking over at the next town to destroy?
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Giants must win today and win 2/3 vs Cards
doubt it tho
believe!
In the end, we all lose. Except some people.
by rain.TheMist. on Aug 19, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Cards just lost two to the Brewers. They’re not playing so well right now either.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
he should play 1B instead of that guy they're using
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
Good thing this is my week off
I get woken up at 10am by construction at my neighbors house and then turn on the scrubs luckdres game and then start projectile vomiting in disgust.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
same situation, except it was my neighbor’s lawnmower…
In the end, we all lose. Except some people.
by rain.TheMist. on Aug 19, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Gnashing...
….AND wailing. Nicely written though.
My only hope is that the Phillies September = Giants August.
Aaron Rowand should play centerfield every game from here on in
Andy Baggerly says that Lincecum was better last year when Rowand was playing every day.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
I see on Big League Stew
The other conspiracy theory is that Lincecum misses Bengie.
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
Man, Molina’s been even worse since he was traded.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
Is that possible? I don’t believe it, he hit for the cycle ya’know.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
That was the strangest thing to happen in baseball since Mike Benjamin became the best hitter in baseball for four days.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
I literally gasped when I saw that he hit for the cycle.
It physically stunned me. I had to take a step back from the bar and contemplate that my life was about to end, for the apocalypse was surely upon us.
.219 / .271 / .333
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
Methinks
He misses Randy Winn in RF.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
A robust analysis has shown that he pitches better when Richard Cohen is the 3rd baseline ball dude. Problem solved.
I'd have to see the numbers
But I believe it, also fascinating is that Bochy used an abacus to crunch the numbers. Also his abacus has a special grittiness function.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Bochy thought the abacus was some sort of back massager, put in on a chair and broke it when he sat down.
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Fat ass!
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That’s how it goes
Everybody knows
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
Also, Lincecum sucks without Bengie.
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
I think Oswalt had the best to say about Lincecum's struggles
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/19/SPKL1EVD7Q.DTL
“If he’s not hurt, it’s all about conditioning,” said Oswalt, who was aware of the dip in Lincecum’s velocity. “He’s not going to lose that much (otherwise) at a young age, I don’t think.”
Oswalt, who lost to Lincecum three times between Opening Day and June 22, also said pitchers who fall in love with a secondary pitch, such as Lincecum with his changeup, sometimes struggle with fastball mechanics.
Giants number 1 free agent target
Needs to be Roy Oswalt. Even though he won’t be a free agent this year, also I think he can—and would—kick Bochy’s ass.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
It's blatantly obvious its about conditioning
The dude is skin and bones and obviously spent no time in the gym during his turbulent off season. Oswalt knows best considering he’s a “midget” pitcher as well so fuck all these retards saying its because bengies gone LOL BAGGS.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Are the retards hot? Not sayin, just sayin….unless they’re hot.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure but if their hot you know the deal mang
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Lincecum’s dad was upset over the weekend at allegations that Tim didn’t work hard this offseason. He said those are literally fighting words.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Aug 19, 2010 2:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
LITERALLY!
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Good thing they're not figuratively fighting words
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Someone’s gonna get their ass kicked by sharksrog!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
If you are expecting any kind of evidence to support those allegations, you are going to be disappointed…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 19, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
thanks for that quote
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
KFUCKINGP Kenny Powers
Stay strong, Clemens.
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
Awesome
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Aug 19, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
WHY ARE THE PADRES?
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands."
by deuce deuce on Aug 19, 2010 2:09 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
"San Diego Padres" anagram
PAIN DEGRADES SO
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Aug 19, 2010 2:11 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Here's another
GRADE A DOPINESS
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Aug 19, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
i like the second one
In the end, we all lose. Except some people.
by rain.TheMist. on Aug 19, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe I can touch the sky
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I think about it every night and day
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
You guys are making it REALLY hard (TWSS) for me not to make inappropriate references to R. Kelly’s personal life.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
This is the remix edition of a song about pissin'
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
I believe my back teeth are floating.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 19, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmEfqGv2UYA&feature=related
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
O! PISSED AND RAGE!
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Aug 19, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
San diego padres baseball
hacking at pitches in the dirt and blooping them for rbi “hits”.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
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"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Maybe it's the religious reference...
Think about it… what teams are we fighting this year?
The PADRES and the CARDINALS… coincidence…? I THINK NOT.
Change the name to the San Francisco Monsignors stat!
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
What’s weird is that the Padres are hardly molesting the balls coming at them.
by Every6thDay on Aug 19, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
San Francisco Popes
They wouldn’t play any better, but they’d have really cool hats.
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Aug 19, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
And a HUGE ring
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Smoking Popes?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Does Bruce Jenkins know anything about sports?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/threedotblog/detail?entry_id=70461&tsp=1
but Krukow is a former catcher who plays it straight, and he can’t stand to watch shoddy fundamentals.
No one who works in the bay area knows anything about sports
Ray ratto for example is considered a “expert insider”.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Radnich is absolute shit, but not just shit, but rotten shit with maggots on top.
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Take away the orgy of co-hosts and tony bruno
And the show is no more.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
More clueless than Michael Urban
Or FP Santangelo, that’s saying a lot.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
FP LOL
/thinks of show idea’s
Hey i’ll just talk conspiracy theories about lincecum like I do everynight and the lines will explode!!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I live in Reno
I envy your menagerie of sportstalk awfulness! Our local hosts are an abomination.
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Aug 19, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
He's got to be the worst
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Aug 19, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Ratto sat in for Radnich this morning on KNBR. He was much easier to listen to than Radnich and his bloviating.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Ratto is better than Radnich, but that’s faint praise.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Like the smell of boiling spleen is better than dog crap.
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Correction
Nobody who works on TV knows anything about sports. It’s not just a Bay Area thing. Everyone out there on TV doesn’t know anything they’re talking about.
LOL
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
But he never caught major league pitching. Or whatever.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know about that, but from b-r, I can tell you he was drafted in the same round as Garth Iorg, which is one of my favorite baseball names of all time.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
but Krukow is a former catcher who plays it straight, and he can’t stand to watch shoddy fundamentals.
Except for when they’re Bengie Molina’s shoddy fundmentals, which are never that big of a problem.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Wow.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Posey tipping pitches
True or False?
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Kruk looking for excuses to call out bengies replacement at all times
True or false?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Unfortunately true
While I think Krukow was a little too heavy handed for a guy who bites his tongue about all of the other blunders the Giants make, especially Bochy, he has a very good point and it was bush league.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
/the slapping the glove on the ground, not so much the shaking off, was what I meant as far as bush league.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
while I agree with you
Kruk should shut the fuck up considering he bites his tongue about everything else and wouldn’t dare say something mean to a veteran.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I think in the pain of losing, especially when the Giants are just getting thumped on like Pirates, specific instances that can explain why it’s happening might be harder to contain.
Also, every team everywhere will always blame its best player(s) when things aren’t going well. Look out, Albert Pujols.
getting thumped on like Pirates
ARRRRR! AYE JUST STRUCK YE OUT AGAIN, YOU LANDLUBBER!!
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Aug 19, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Say, isn’t national talk like a pirate day coming up soon?
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
ARRRRGGGHHHH Matey! Me timbers are shivering!
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not saying he should have said it....
Given how he bit his tongue about Bengie Molina’s fat ass allowing what seemed like 4 billion passed balls, he had no right to mention it on air and I like Kruk, think he’s great, but he was wrong, dead wrong to say that on air.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Also
We should all send an email to that ask Kruk and Kuip thing to let him know that he owes one Gerald D. Posey an apology.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think so.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 19, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m positive that this has been discussed, but would you mind giving the quick version of this story to someone who missed it?
No worries
Just look up thread there’s a link to Bruce LOLjenkins blog.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 19, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Usually the pitcher is the one who gives the tip
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Aug 19, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
this is one of the most bestest threads i've read in a long time
thanks for the laughs.
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
No problem
You give anyone herpes in a while?
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
just my dog
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
During Uribe's last AB last night (an 0 - 4 evening) Kruk actually said:
I think he’s finding his swing.
by Talkin_Base_Ball on Aug 19, 2010 2:33 PM PDT reply actions
I think I’m finding his swing awful.
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Aug 19, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Whaddya want him to say?
Sandoval – “Well, he played a helluva lot better when he weighed less than a Volkswagen. Maybe if he’d lay off the fatty foods, he could get to a ball more than a foot away from his feet, which he can’t see”
Franchez – “On the bright side, he has more range than Sandoval. On the other hand, he’s hitting worse than a blindfolded Bocock. Maybe he should lean his mole over the plate and try to get hit with a pitch.”
Rowand – “I don’t know why any pitcher would throw him anything but a slider in the dirt. Throw four of them, and I guarantee he’ll be dragging his bat back to the dugout.”
Renteria – “He should just play on the grass and try to cut off the groundballs like a goalie cutting down the angle. He has the lateral movement of Stephen Hawking, and the arm of Pete Gray.”
Uribe – “One day the pitcher is going to pickoff a runner at first and Uribe will swing at it.”
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
This would make Kruk the greatest baseball announcer in history.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 19, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree. Also unemployed
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
But honest...
Isn’t your integrity worth it?
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Absolutely. It must be really difficult to sugar coat shit night after night.
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
He needs to get likkered up
and tell it like it is
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
He could take the Mark Grace route:
“Snyder definately. Every fucking swing that guy takes is an underwater swing.
Snyder hit a fucking grand slam off of Remlinger and they released him. If this guy can hit a slam off ya get your fuckin’ ass outta here.
Although he thought they were off the air at the time.
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
That's fucking priceless!
Is there a link to the audio?
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike Remlinger: the turning point in Giants’ #1 draft picks.
Before him: Will Clark, Matt Williams.
After him: Ted Wood, Royce Clayton, Steve Hosey, Adam Hyzdu, Steve Whitaker.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
Reminds me of when I was a commodity futures broker
I shared an office with another guy and we all had shitloads of clients who when they called were supposed to give us their name and account number.
My partner had this one client who would never give his account number, and this would really slow things down,
One day my buddy Andy takes a call, hits the mute button on the phone and says, “Goddamn it! How many motherfucking times do I have to tell you have your motherfucking account number ready when you call me! Are you a fucking retard school dropout or what!?”
Except he had missed the mute button and the client had heard it all. My buddy turned as white as a sheet, but the funny thing is the client was apologetic as hell and promised to never call in without his account number.
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn, wish i'd been there to see that.
Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!
by Giantsfan4life on Aug 19, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
God, it was great. The whole office was on the floor laughing.
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually this sounds like something Kruk or Kuip would say.
Uribe – "One day the pitcher is going to pickoff a runner at first and Uribe will swing at it."
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
At least they do not do this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXOUl2nhujM
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
That is a euphamism for
“I think he has lost bowel and bladder control”
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
THE LEAGUE MUST NOT BE QUESTIONED!!
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
/opens jacket to reveal a gun
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
That reminds me of my ex father-in-law
Italian dude who had lots of friends with black Cadillacs and Lincolns.
Played golf with 3 of them one day and after about 5 holes one of them, a giant of a guy with huge hands walks over to me, puts his arm around my shoulder and says to me, “I like you SF.” I say, “Thanks ** I like you too.”
He says, “Are you having problems with anybody?”
Me “No, why?”
Him, handing me a business card, “Here’s my personal number. If you have any trouble with anybody, you call me and the trouble will disappear.”
I thanked him, took the card and threw it away the minute I got home.
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought night games in the east coast is ok, just can't play night games on the west coast
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
But they could have scheduled a day game and let the Giants fly out early evening.
Now…they are stuck on a red-eye and probably won’t get to St. Louis until 2-3 in morning instead of 10 or 11 p.m.
Tony will hire people
to drive around the hotel honking their horns and have a fire siren go off next to the hotel. (gamesmanship he calls it)
because it pleases and sparkles
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Aug 19, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Guess how many walks the Giants have in the Phillie series? go ahead, do it. or read extra baggs for the answer. either way, it’s very good
The same as the number of wins they will have in this series?
Waking up stressed out because you’ve been running from zombies all night is a stupid way to spend your adulthood. - Howie
The Giants have not drawn a walk since Sunday
And it was Timmy who drew the walk.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Fuck Ralph.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 19, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
What foo say?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
He was mortified that they couldn't hit Blanton
And pointed that out vociferously to Fleming to open the interview.
Was he attacking Fleming for that, or just pissed in general?
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah. thanks for the clarification
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, obviously it was Flem’s fault. Obviously.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I think Ralph realizes that the announcers are generally apologists for the players/coaches/GM
So there was a bit of “I dare you to refute this” to his statement.
so, random
This is a restaurant in town:
I’m kind of fascinated by and afraid of it. With the logo, I wonder if MC Scat Cat is the chef.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
...... i will never eat at HipHop Fish & Chicken ......
nor here.
8^|
"Todd Wellemeyer is pitching today? Get out your umbrellas! A shit storm is coming!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 19, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL!
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
those look like “smell lines” rising from the fish.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"You can shake a dozen glove men out of a tree, but the bat separates the men from the boys." - Washington Senators First baseman Dale Long
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Very OT: The best exchange on TV in quite some time
Peggy meets Joyce at the party inside a noisy downtown loft. Joyce offers Peggy a joint, then nibbles her ear. “I have a boyfriend,” Peggy says. “He doesn’t own your vagina,” Joyce replies. “No, but he’s renting it,” laughs Peggy.
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
700 club?
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
for anyone who missed it...
http://www.amctv.com/videos/mad-men/?bcpid=8803972001&bclid=194014048001&bctid=558061384001
go to 3:20
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
My favorite exchange in that episode was when Draper’s secretary exchanged a full picture frame for a broken one by throwing something at him.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
So if my math is correct (persuing the boxscores)
The Giants have gone 90 at-bats since their last walk?
Prediction for the offseason
1) Bruce Bochy fired. The McCoven rejoice.
2) After a long and exhaustive search, Shawon Dunston is hired to replace him. The McCoven break the Internet.
(no, I don’t actually think this would happen. Only because the Giants wouldn’t fire Bochy)
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
Has the boys playing great! Inspires confidence! Best game-day manager in all of baseball!
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
...Ruben Rivera Hired as new Baserunning Coach
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
Then: Sabean fired, replaced by Steve Phillips.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
/Phillips, realizing that FP is inept, fires him and hires Bruce Bochy as manager, giving him a 9 year contract.
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Robert Heinlein
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 19, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Solution: Brownies. An extra special batch.
Somebody get Timmy some. The sooner the better.
Or, take away the brownies. Either way. It’s a scientific fact that his brownie coefficient is out of whack.
You had me at the title or this post, Grant.
I didn’t need to read the rest of it to know I would agree with you.
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
by Prussian Creole on Aug 19, 2010 3:26 PM PDT reply actions
Ryan Davids. "faceless slider-tossing goof..."
by O R They? on Aug 19, 2010 3:39 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
but bonus points if you shop him to be carrying fontenot
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 19, 2010 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Bad week, Big Mac
The Giants had a bad week. Nothing went right as they drifted further out to sea but there is still time to make up the lost ground. They have been one of the hottest teams of late in spite of their recent slump and they have what it takes to get back on a huge roll and cause havoc during the final week of the season. They are in contention for the playoffs, period. It’s a question of how.. The division title of the Wild Card. Either one gets them where they want to go with this new format. The shrewd addition of Cody Ross could make a huge difference since he’s going to a contending team in the thick of a playoff race. Other established players in the recent past like Jason Bay and Mark Tex have thrived after being traded from non contending teams to contending teams late in the season. Look it up. Cody Ross has hit over 20 homers and driven in 90 runs during his career so he’s been above average in the production department. He’s also in his prime. The Giants have not been afraid to make additions they think will help generate more offense. Up to now they have been pretty lucky with what they’ve already corralled. There are 37 games left and they have to win more than 22 of them if they want to play after the end of the regular season. They have the ability to do it. The starting pitching, especially Barry Zito, will need as much offensive support as possible and also has to provide effective outings at the same time. The pen should just continue the great job it has done all year. If everything goes like it has the ability to they will get to the playoffs for the 1st time since the days of Barry Bonds & Felipe Alou.
by Nailblubberina on Aug 23, 2010 10:56 AM PDT reply actions
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