minor lines, 8/15/10
Highlights from the Giants' farm: Eric Hacker allowed just 1 ER in 7.0 IP, and Raynor Campbell homered and doubled among three hits.
AAA: Fresno defeated Iowa 8-5
(after leading 8-0 through five innings)
Fresno: RF Eugenio Velez: 1 for 5, HR, SO, SB
Fresno: LF Joe Borchard: 1 for 4, HR, 2 SO
Fresno: 2B Brock Bond: 2 for 3, HBP, 2 SB
Fresno: P Eric Hacker: 2 for 3
Iowa: 1B Micah Hoffpauir: 2 for 5, HR, SO
Fresno: SP Eric Hacker: 7.0 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 3 BB, 6 K--1 HB
Velez and Borchard each had a two-run HR in the 5th inning--their 4th and 15th HRs, respectively. Bond, who reached base three times, and Hacker were two of four Grizzlies with two hits each. The Cubs' Hoffpauir homered for the second straight day.
Hacker seems to be both beginning and finishing the season strong. He allowed just 3 ER in April, but then had an ERA above 5.00 the next three months. Now he has allowed 1 ER or less in four of his last six starts.
AA: Richmond defeated Portland 5-4
(scoring all five runs in the bottom of the 9th inning)
Richmond: LF Thomas Neal: 0 for 2, 2 BB
Richmond: 1B Sharlon Schoop: 3 for 4, 2B
Richmond: SP Craig Westcott: 5.0 IP, 9 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 2 BB, 2 K--1 HR, 1 WP
Richmond: RP Jake Stevens: 3.0 IP, 2 H, 1 K--1 HB
Schoop had three of the Flying Squireels' seven hits, with his 6th double being their only XBH. His OPS remains below .700, though. Neal, who had walked only once in his previous eleven games, walked twice to be only other Squirrel to reach base twice.
Making his eighth start since being promoted to the upper minors, Westcott matched a season-high with 9 H. He has been too hittable over his last five starts with 37 H and just 15 K in 26.1 IP. Facing just one batter over the minimum in one of his longest appearances of the year, Stevens lowered his ERA to 2.22.
A+: San Jose lost to Modesto 3-2
(allowing all three runs in the 8th inning)
San Jose: C Johnny Monell: 2 for 3, 2 2B, BB, SO, PO, PB
San Jose: SP Jeremy Affeldt: 2.0 IP, 1 BB, 3 K--1 WP
San Jose: RP Justin Fitzgerald: 5.2 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 5 K
Monell, who had a red-hot July but then a cold first week in August, has heated back up with six XBHs over his last seven games.
Affeldt struck out three of seven batters in his second rehab appearance. Fitzgerald, the normal starter, had five scoreless innings before allowing three runs in the 8th inning, although the final run scored after he had departed the game.
A-: Augusta defeated Rome 4-2
Augusta: CF Skyler Stromsmoe: 2 for 4, 2B, SB
Augusta: 1B Tommy Joseph: 2 for 4
Salem-Keizer: SP Kelvin Marte: 5.0 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 2 K
Stromsmore, the 26-year-old playing his fifth Sally League game (which seems to coincide roughly with the trade of Evan Crawford), and Joseph both had two hits.
Making just his second start of the year, Marte pitched five scoreless innings.
ssA: Salem-Keizer lost to Spokane 11-8
(after leading 4-3 through six innings)
Salem-Keizer: LF Raynor Campbell: 3 for 5, HR, 2B, SO, E
Spokane: SS Jurickson Profar: 0 for 4, SH, 3 SO
Salem-Keizer: SP Edward Concepcion: 5.0 IP, 3 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 4 BB, 5 K--1 HR, 3 WP
Salem-Keizer: RP Aaron King: 1.0 IP, 2 BB, 3 K
Salem-Keizer: RP Addison Proszek: 2.0 IP, 8 H, 7 R, 6 ER, 1 K--1 WP
Cambell's three hits including his 3rd HR and 10th double, lifting his SLG above .400. The Rangers' seventeen-year-old Profar had the oh-fer with the hat trick.
The 21-year-old Concepcion continues to struggle controlling the strike zone. He has issued four walks in five of his last seven starts and has a BB/IP ratio of nearly 0.75. That's still appreciably better than King's walk ratio, as he has 19 BB in 11.0 IP in his eleven NWL appearances. Proszek had his least effective appearance of the year.
R: Scottsdale had its regularly scheduled off-day (every fifth day)
DSL: The Gigantes' had their usual Sunday off-day
(their final Sunday off-day with their regular season concluding on Saturday)
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Neal (is real)
I wonder if he could be a Sept. call up. He needs to be placed on the 40 man roster in the offseason, so I wonder if the Giants will send him to the show next month.
I wonder if Stevens can manage to have a decent career after being a former top prospect.
I imagine Hacker will get the call in Sept to help a depleted bullpen.
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
*he needs to be placed on the 40 man roster or risk being lost to the Rule 5 draft
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
I know it’s a meaningless stat, but I believe that Hacker is once again tied for the most number of wins in all of the minors at 15-5. I’ll take whatever glimmer of hope I can get out of Fresno these days.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Richmond’s win really came out of nowhere. They had been held to no runs, 3 hits, and 2 BBs through the first 8 innings. Then, in the bottom of the 9th Neal leads off with a walk (see Thomas those BBs can lead to good things) and Belt gets hit by the pitcher (way to take one for the team!). After Gillaspie grounded to the pitcher for the first out, the Giants proceeded to get 4 singles and a fielding error by the SS to score 5 runs and walk-off with the win.
Belt had an ugly line: 0 for 3 with 2 Ks, but he did get on base when it counted.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Those walks! DUNSTON IS NOT PLEASED!
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
HE’S CHEATING THE GAME!
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 16, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Rosin
Saw the box score for Rosin’s poor outing on Thursday. Tough night. Heard that he’s headed to AZ on Monday due to his workload. He was Minnesota’s workhorse this season and his innings count is getting up there. Glad to see they’re playing it safe and backing off a bit to avoid any major injury. The July thing was arm related, so I’m happy to see they’re not pushing it. I’m sure he’ll be ready to go next year.
I heartily approve of Marte’s move to the starting rotation. Once upon a time (before injury) he had some dominating stuff. Now let’s try the same experiment with Casilla and get some innings on that boy!
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
This might be their only window of opportunity to start. The Giants have a ton of starting pitcher candidates coming to SJ and Augusta next year:
Jorge Bucardo, Zack Wheeler, Seth Rosin, Mike Kickham, Mike Main (I’d start him out in SJ next year to build up his confidnce), Edwin Escobar, Matt Graham, Reinier Roibal, Armando Paniagua, Austin Fleet, Mark Christman, Brandon Allen, Alec Asher, and Jacob Dunnington off the top of my head.
I don’t know where the Giants are going to find enough innings for all of these guys, and all of their relievers, below the AA level. It’s a good problem to have, though, and I’ll be happy to give the hangers-on like Odle, Reichard, Kaufman, and Stolp the boot from the starting rotation.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I’d subtract a few of those guys off the potential rotations for A ball. Based on age, this year’s performance, and what I can glean of Giants org behavior, I’d say Graham, Roibal, Paniagua, Christman, and Asher don’t have much chance of being in A ball rotations next year. And Allen and Kickham would be pretty surprising. Dunnington I’d like to see there, but they don’t have much history of moving AZL relievers to rotation jobs in A ball, unfortunately. So that thins out the ranks a bit. I don’t know what their plans are with Main at this point.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I respect your opinion and knowledge, but I must say that I believe most of what you wrote is way off.
I do agree that Paniagua and Dunnington are longshots for the staritng rotation, but it’s not out of the question. Remember that Dunnington is of the same high school class as Zack Wheeler and he only was in the pen this year because he was an unknown element – he’s one of those rare kids that had a huge jump in velocity (high 80s to mid 90s) after he graduated high school.
Where we totally disagree is in Graham ($500K bonus/6th rd.), Roibal (unknown bonus but I’m sure he got at least $2M due to his FA status), Christman (13th rd.), Allen (~$200K contract/top 200 BA prospect), and Kickham ($410K bonus/5th rd.). The Giants didn’t draft these amateur starting pitchers as high as they did, or sign them to as big of a contract as they did, for the purpose of having them pitch out of the pen in the minors. They were/are envisioned as starters. The only thing that will keep them out of the rotation is injuries or a complete breakdown of their mechanics.
The fact that all will have had little or no pro starting experience this season won’t stop the Giants from starting them in full-season A ball next year. Barring injury, all of them will get intensive work in AZ this offseason and in next year’s spring training under the tutelage of the Giants’ pitching gurus and be ready to go next April. The Giants have a recent history of being aggressive with slotting their young pitchers the year after they sign them – especially high-draftees and/or high-salaried pitchers. Here’s a list from the last 5 seasons of prospects that had little or no starts and/or innings pitched in the AZL or NWL, but were in the starting rotation at Augusta or SJ the next season:
Wheeler (0 innings) >> 9 starts & 41 innings @ Augusta (age=19),
MadBum (0 innings) >> 24 starts & 141 innings @ Augusta (age=18),
Alderson (2 starts/5 innings) >> 26 starts & 145 innings @ SJ (age=19),
Aaron King (6 starts/33 innings) >> 22 starts & 104 innings @ Augusta (age=19),
Chance Corgan (1 start/16 innings) >> 12 starts & 67 innings @ Augusta (age=21),
Clayton Tanner (0 starts/26 innings) >> 23 starts & 135 innings @ Augusta (age=19),
Henry Sosa (6 starts/32 innings) >> 24 starts & 125 innings @ Augusta/SJ (age=21),
Ryan Shaver (2 starts/22 innings) >> 20 starts & 131 innings @ Augusta (age=21),
Shairon Martis (5 starts/34 innings) >> 15 starts & 76 innings @ Augusta (age=19),
Compare them to the current 2010 AZL & NWL stats of the guys you objected to:
Dunnington (0 starts/24 innings) >> will be age 20 next April,
Graham (3 starts/26 innings) >> will be age 20 next April,
Roibal (0 starts/6 innings) >> will be age 22 next April,
Paniagua (8 starts/31 innings) >> will be age 21 next April,
Allen (0 starts/2 innings) >> will be age 19 next April,
Kickham (0 starts/0 innings) >> will be age 22 next April,
Christman (0 starts/0 innings) >> will be age 21 next April
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
You could be right. I guess we’ll see in time. But Graham for one, has worked himself backwards from starter in SK, to reliever in SK to reliever in the AZL this summer, which isn’t exactly heading in the right direction. And Roibal, whose fairly old for the AZL anyway sure isn’t being stretched out in a way that makes you think the organization sees him as a starter. Paniagua just hasn’t been very good thus far (Kendry Flores I think has had a better year as a starter). But, as I say, time will tell.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
It’s all guesses on my part. But I wouldn’t be too worried about the progress of Graham. The Giants knew before they drafted him that his mechanics had to be totally overhauled – that’s why he fell so far (not to mention his UNC commitment). He’s in AZ right now to get intense one-on-one tutelage, which will continue through next year’s spring training. He will start again somewhere next year – the Giants just have too much money and prestige invested in him not to give him multiple shots.
As for Roibal, I think what you’re seeing is the Giants taking things very easy with him. The Cubans are notorious for overworking their top starters (Roibal was their #2 guy once Chapman defected), so they don’t want to push him this year. They also might be working on some mechanical issues with him. Once again, he’ll get multiple chances to be a starter, because the Giants have way too much money and prestige (much more so than with Graham) invested in him. His age and international experience will work in his favor next year. I could even see him being pushed all the way up to SJ to start with.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Dunnington should be starting IMO. Casilla as well, but that one’s been beaten to death.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Aug 16, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe Hacker can replace Lincecum in the rotation so Lincecum can go on the DL
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 16, 2010 9:03 AM PDT reply actions
You are joking right?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Lincecum’s problems are scaring me – big time. I have to believe that something is wrong with him.
As for Lincecum actually going on the DL? I haven’t heard anything like that.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 16, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Any updates on signings?
Did the Giants sign Brown or Parker? I actually hope they didn’t sign Brown, next year’s draft is loaded and I don’t think Brown was worth a 1st round pick.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
This is what I call a win-win situation! Brown has virtually zero leverage here.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
This is what I call a win-win situation! Brown has virtually zero leverage here.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
You can say that again
"I wanted to pick a Rockie. But I dislike the Rockies. They're not bona fide." — Jon Miller on the postgame wrap, 7/1/10
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Aug 16, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
/ and again.
So optimistic I fart sunshine and rainbows.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Aug 16, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Note on Dominguez
Dominguez struck out yesterday.
Think that’s news? Consider this. It’s the first time he struck out since August 8th, exactly a week prior. That was a span of 24 at-bats for Dominguez without a strikeout. For a guy striking out once every 4.08 at-bats this season, that’s pretty good. During that week, he went 11-for-27 with two home runs and a double.
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Maybe it's a virus
Tommy Joseph only K’d 4 times in 29 plate appearances over roughly the same time frame (Aug. 7th to 15th). He also had a very nice slash of .370/.413/.519/.932
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
You know he’s 2.5 years older than Culberson, right?
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Maybe Culberson’s actually an albino Dominican who’s about to have three years added to his age.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Aug 16, 2010 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Eric Hacker
He was destined to be a Giant at birth with a last name like that.
And yet, not a hitter.
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by BruteSentiment on Aug 16, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions

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