Post-game thread: Norma Desmond style
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 13, 2010 10:29 PM PDT
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PrintI’ve decided to live in the alternate reality where Aubrey Huff’s eighth-inning fly ball went out of the ballpark.
Oh, it’s a great day here. For a second, I thought the game was going to be decided on an RBI groundout. See, that was the second RBI groundout of the game, which is a supremely ridiculous way to build an insurmountable lead. Yet the Padres always do that. And I thought, oh, here we go again. But that wasn’t the case, as the fly ball that Aubrey Huff absolutely crushed was a two-run home run. So the Giants won. It was really, really, really fun to watch. You should have been there.
And I thought the yammer-mouth starting pitcher -- who yammered his mouth about a sweep when he can’t even throw strikes like a normal major leaguer -- was going to take another loss against the Padres despite his ERA being -0.32 against them this season.
Nope. Silly me. I was the idiot for being so negative.
As someone who would have been thrilled with an outcome of a series win before the series started, I guess that outcome would have still been possible if the Giants had lost. That doesn’t mean that this wouldn’t have been a junk-in-the-pencil-sharpener kind of game if Huff’s ball didn’t go out. But it did. It sailed into the dark green abyss, bouncing twice before leaving our sight, the crowd pulsing with absolute elation as fireworks shot off, illuminating the round peg in the round hole in our soul that was carved out by the Padres earlier in the year. The ball went out. Then Wilson saved it. It was awesome.
I like living in this world. Because living in a world in which the fucking Padres won another fucking one-run game against the Giants would be a horrific nightmare. It would be like watching someone hit on 17 every chance they got in blackjack, coming up with threes and fours every time. Wait, no. It would be like watching that same card player, except if the player were Clayton Richard, grinning arrogantly every time he walks to the dugout, or maybe it could have been Yorvit Torrealba twitching like a methed-out finch after every single event on the field.
I don’t believe in "this team has the other team’s number." I believe that baseball is a game of skill and luck, and that for one team to win that many close games against the other is an imbalance between skill and luck. I think Madison Bumgarner is going to come out tomorrow and FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF his way into our hearts. I also think that I need to stop writing before I punch a plate-glass window.
Man, I’m sure glad Huff’s ball went out.
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That's just it though, they're fucking not better than us
Past Latos, their rotation is full of guys massive overachievers. Past Gonzalez, and maybe Ludwick they don’t have a hitter who should be a contributor on a postseason team. The only thing they have is 3225913 guys in their bullpen with ERA’s in low 2’s and K/9 rates over 10.
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It's why it's so frustrating, agreed.
They do have 2-3 amazing performers in the bullpen, and Latos is a legit stud. But christ the rest of that starting rotation makes me want to strangle kittens, when people flail against it. They simply aren’t good. They have abysmal K rates, middling walk rates, and smugly sit pretty on unsustainable BABIP rates.
The offense is terrible. Gonzalez is spectacular, of course, and Ludwick is one of my favorite players, for his offensive and defensive contributions. But…the rest? They have what amounts to Aaron Rowand starting at half their positions. Above average defense, god awful offense.
And yet hit out of their minds with men in scoring positon, coax bloops into dropping just between fielders, and magically have defenders standing right where that line drive is hit.
They are a good team, but not a great one. Sadly, luck happens, and their record indicates a great team. Hopefully things swing the other way soon, or it may be too late for this season.
unsustainable BABIP?
only somewhat: meet defense and Petco.
Petco kills home runs which don’t factor into BABIP. Other than that, how does it effect BABIP?
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by positiveuphemism on Aug 13, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. Defense plays a role in that.
But even accounting for that, it’s unsustainable by most of the starting staff.
You forgot to mention their insane stolen base rate and incredibly low DP rate.
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by positiveuphemism on Aug 13, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Well they have some speed
that matters a bit. Plus Black is damned aggressive. I think he is a big factor in all of this.
CS rate is more skill based than anything. Double Play rates, however...
largely more of that batted ball luck that they seem to sacrifice things to.
It’s just SSS breaks that they are getting and we are not.
Look at this game in particular…they didn’t really do ANYTHING. They had 2 solid hits all night and that was all their scoring. Who knows what happens if Panda throws the ball to Posey (like he is supposed to in that situation.) Unless I am mistaken, in a rundown, you are always supposed to run the runner back, not forwards. No way to know what would have happened. May have still ended up 2nd and 3rd, but maybe not. Then the throw beats the runner to the plate, but is just far enough towards first that the runner slides around the tag.
Not even talking about hitting Yorvit and the Rowand adventures.
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by positiveuphemism on Aug 13, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
and we don’t make them very often. for some reason, every break has gone the Pads way in our head to heads. it’s frustrating.
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by positiveuphemism on Aug 13, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree it is frustrating...
…and the Giants are a good team (8-1 seems extreme), but would add the the mistakes get magnified in these kinds of games. Not sure we are built to thrive in these kinds of games while the Padres are…don’t have any data to back this up but it appears that way
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by howtheydidntscore on Aug 13, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Why couldn’t he have hit that ball like three yards further
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His bat speed was 0.18 MPH too slow.
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by Gabafnerhagen on Aug 13, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Aubrey was PISSED
I wonder if he thought he hit it out, or was mad he didn’t quite get it square.
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Probably some of both.
First the thought he got enough of it, then was pissed because he didn’t get enough of it. And also, the Padres.
Sour grapes but
the only reason the Pads are ahead of us are SSS breaks. Pretty aggravating but with 9 games left, it is likely things will balance out.
This game started off so well, but that HBP on Yorvit really was a turning point.
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by positiveuphemism on Aug 13, 2010 10:32 PM PDT reply actions
I was so excited we scored 2 runs in the first. I should have known that was all we were going to get.
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After the solid hits in the second, I thought we were going to torch them.
I’m mostly annoyed that even with two games to go, the Pads have already won this series. They can lose the next two games and squeak out with their tails between their legs, but they still have a rather large lead…it’s a series win.
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by positiveuphemism on Aug 13, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too
Sanchez looked good in the 1st and we had a decent offense…ugh.
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That, and they’re kind of good.
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by can of corn on Aug 13, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I just don’t see it. I see a team with good pitching that gets lucky as hell on offense, repeatedly. Owlcroft says they are underperforming but I don’t believe it. They will get crushed in the playoffs if they make it.
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by positiveuphemism on Aug 13, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Owlcroft is a sweet old codger, but I don’t really trust his analysis since I found out he thinks you build teams out of entirely identical players.
Owlcroft himself says to tell you
that he is indeed a sweet old codger (I agree with the “sweet” and the “codger” parts), but he’s taking the day off since it’s our anniversary. I couldn’t forbear peeking in after the loss tonight. Drat the Padres. Drat ’em, drat ’em, drat em!
by mrs. owlcroft on Aug 13, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I do wish I knew . . .
. . . whether that was intended as jest, or is simply a major misunderstanding.
Also note that I have not said that “they are underperforming”, because I don’t have a nice, neat tabulation of what their pitching would be expected to do based on past performance. Their batting stat line is indeed under-performing expectations gotten from career lines by a modest amount (circa 20 runs), but for their pitching I can’t say.
What I can, and do, say is that based on the team line stats for 2010 for both their batting and their pitching, their runs scored are 15 over normal and their runs allowed 19 under normal. “Normal” here means what a stat line like that would normally produce; it has nothing to do with the separate question of whether a stat line like that is what one would expect from them (which is what I addressed above).
I would imagine that any credible metrics would give results very much like those.
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Even based on the potentially skewed stat lines, a 34 run swing from 'normal'
would be relatively significant, would it not? That’s several wins over the course of a season, which would tighten the gap between the two teams nicely. Out if idle curiosity, what are the production values relative to ‘normal’ for the Giants? I could probably parse things and come up with it, but I’m operating on no sleep at 7 am, here.
The other angle might be...
…as painful as it is to admit…that the Padres are the better team.
We piss away opportunities game after game and get away with it. But that won’t work against this team because they pitch too well and they don’t piss away their opportunities
If you take away head to head, we are better. The head to head games have been ridiculous. I refuse to accept that they are the better team.
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by positiveuphemism on Aug 13, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds right to me.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Theirs is not the only such math.
Colorado has the second-biggest deviation from projections of any team in the majors. The Angels look to finish 11 games ahead of projection, and the Rockies 10 games behind. It’s a bell-shaped curve, and there will always be outliers. In 2010, those are they.
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They’ve won two 1-0 games, they got 1 hit and won. These aren’t games that show a better team. They are games that are won on getting breaks. Things will balance out.
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by positiveuphemism on Aug 13, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s not any reason to think things will balance out. The luck (if it is luck) that the Pads have had so far this season is in the books. You can’t take it away from them. Their expected performance the rest of the way remains the same whether they over- or under-performed previously. They are not “due” for some bad luck.
Go look at Owlcroft's forecasts...
….if the Padres players play to expectations, they win ~95 games and take the West.
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On what basis are the Giants better?
Owlcroft is a sweet old codger
but as I wrote above, I don’t really trust his analysis since I found out he thinks you build teams out of entirely identical players. Which is a gentle ribbing, but I think accurate: he’s smart, and the Padres are better than the Giants, but (barring an important arm falling off in either rotation) they’re maybe a win or two better, and the Giants emphatically are not a 93-win team.
I don't think you understand his approach...
…that is not how he gets to his projections. He uses the career numbers for each player and builds up the wins from that.
The analysis you are referring to is something else just to normalize a specific stat
I'll let him answer it...
…but although it seems odd…it’s just a way to compare players I think
Yes, and it’s wrong. You don’t compare players in the magical world where all their colleagues are themselves. It’s always rubbed me wrong.
Curiously . . .
. . . it tends to give the right answers.
Mind, you can’t just average a team’s players’ TOPs to get a team result, because the average of the products is not in general equal to the product of the averages.{1} But a given player’s TOP is as useful and handy a one-number metric as there is (useful and handy because runs scored per season by a team is a familiar and meaningful value). To derive a team TOP, one needs to add the individual players’ individual stats to form a team stat line, then calculate from that.
(There is a rule-of-thumb constant by which you can multiply the playtime-weighted TOPs of the players and get a decent approximation of the true team TOP, but it has been so many years since I used it that I’d have to calculate it anew; it works because baseball stats lie within a relatively narrow range—the same reason linear weights work reasonably well.)
{1}Consider:
A B
2 × 4 = 8
4 × 6 = 24
If you average 8 and 24, you get 16. But if you separately average the component factors, A and B, you get 3 and 5 respectively, and 3 × 5 = 15, not 16. You don’t get a TOP by just multiplying OBP x TBP, but that’s the general idea.
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Look at the Padres. There is no way that is a 95 win team. If they keep up this pace, sure they win 95. If you go back to day 1 they just aren’t a 95 win team. Flukes happen. It’s possible the Yankees could finish under .500 next year. This is part of what makes baseball so great.
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by positiveuphemism on Aug 13, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn’t the Cards win it all with like 83 wins a few years back?
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by positiveuphemism on Aug 13, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I understand what you are saying....
….the only point I’m trying to get across is that if all their players just play as they have historically, the best prediction is ~95 wins. Of course you can question the model and assumptions but given the players they have, it wouldn’t be fair to call it a fluke
..but I do question the model
I have the Pods as a 90-win team, tops, and the Giants maybe a win behind.
oh, I'm a hack
it’s all back-of-the-envelope scribbling: guesstimate team WAR, go from there. I don’t even find time to blog in my actual field any more, so I haven’t done better-quality work in baseball for a long time.
Here's my model
68 wins, 48 games left. They should be under .500 the rest of the way….so we’ll say 22-26 from here on out. 90 wins.
They are on a 5 game winning streak? Geez. What a joke.
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by positiveuphemism on Aug 13, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
the law of averages
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by positiveuphemism on Aug 13, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe the weakest argument ever entered on MCC?
They clearly have the talent to play at .500 or better even if you remove all the luck they are enjoying
They also could regress hard, and play under .500 pretty easily.
Guys reaching innings limits, hitting endurance walls, splits going against them.
I agree that being sub .500 the rest of the way is unlikely, but I ‘do’ see them being pretty close to a .500 club from here on out. The question is – will the Giants be any better?
I’d like to think so.
I hope they do regress hard
…but if we are being objective…it’s just not obvious to me from any data that the Giants are the better team and more likely to win the West than the Padres. But the Giants clearly have a good chance too…let’s hope they make it happen
Not breaks when you are 8-1
The Padres are ahead of the Giants because they have out executed them time and time again. If Sanchez gets a motherf****g bunt down this is a different game.
Gonzalez does a great job in a run down That turns out to be the difference.
The Pads know who and what they are. They pitch and they scratch out runs. They get an early led and then turn it over to a lights out bullpen.
You aren’t going to get a lot of opportunities against them. And you aren’t going to beat their pen. So you damn well have to execute. The Giants didn’t and haven’t against the Pads.
The run down was botched by Panda. Wasn’t a great job by the baserunner.
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by positiveuphemism on Aug 13, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly...
…the Padres wouldn’t make that mistake
you're being presumptious
Padres are ahead of the Giants because they have out executed them time and time again. If Sanchez gets a motherf****g bunt down this is a different game.
You still can’t take it for granted that either of those runners would have scored with one out. The Giants have failed to complete that equation throughout the season.
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I would have liked to have taken my chances
especially given that Richard was shaky to that point and Torres was up next.
And who knows what happens if 2nd and 3rd
different AB.
If the Giants score an average number of runs in any conceivable way, it’s a whole different game.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Huh?
Maybe it was just a coincidence that Richard righted himself after the Giants let him off the hook in the second. Bottom line – they didn’t get a guy to second the rest of the night. Things like momentum matter. Sanchez failure to bunt and Rowand’s unreal gaffe helped bail Richard out. Maybe he gets out of it anyway. But you can’t blow opportunities when you are playing the team ahead of you. Particularly when that team has owned you.
Disagree
Turning point to me was Rowand getting picked off. Second inning in a row we had the pitcher on the ropes, he had a bad start last time. That gave him confidence and he settled down.
by Myemail21479 on Aug 14, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
The one good thing about the Guillen trade is we no longer have to watch Aaron Rowand.
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by rxmeister on Aug 13, 2010 10:33 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Are you sure about that?
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by can of corn on Aug 13, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh
Bochy will probably figure out a way to give Rowand and Guillen some playing time. Then, we’ll really be screwed.
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by Grant Brisbee on Aug 13, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoops, Torres's hammy is feeling a little tight.
LF – Burrell
CF – Rowand
RF – Guillen
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 13, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
With Ishikawa at 1B
Huff needs a day to cool off.
/bork
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by Gabafnerhagen on Aug 13, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck no.
If he hit that 8th Inning drive in a day game, the Giants would have won. And tomorrow is a day game.
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tomorrows lineup
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by Gabafnerhagen on Aug 13, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I would much rather see Nate in RF
than Rowand or Guillen in the lineup. Much, much, much rather.
Me too
but Nate doesn’t run through walls or hit DINGERZ
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Guillen leads the Royals in DINGERZ
therefore he is the bat we need.
Rowand runs through walls. Gamer.
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Nate doesn't hit either
I mean NO ONE is rooting harder for the guy then I am. I’m a 680 corridor guy. He’s local. But how many times can you watch a guy roll over grounders and hit weak fly balls. He has failed miserably at the plate.
No, but he's a perfectly serviceable 4th OF
and I don’t think Guillen will hit enough to overcome his bad fielding
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In an ideal world, Nate is a very very good 4th OF. However, with the way this roster is currently constructed
he’s the best option we have for right field, whether we like it or not.
LOL Bowker
but yeah, all things considered he’s probably the best RF
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I am also in this line.
And goddamn I love Nate too. Poor bastard.
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by MonochromeGarden on Aug 13, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I can imagine why – a whole season of everybody talking about how your team will eventually start playing bad baseball again would make for a very touchy fanbase.
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by troymccluresf on Aug 13, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I'm offended
by the way he failed miserably to back them up.
No he didn't fail miserably
That was a pretty solid performance. Nothing to hang your hat on, but not a “miserable failure”.
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by gallo del cielo on Aug 13, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So I know this didn't end up affecting the game but
when you have one lefty in the bullpen-a lefty who is on the team specifically to get lefthanded hitters out and you’re playing the Padres-you use him to get Adrian Gonzalez out.
Lopez should’ve started the 8th and Ramirez should’ve come in to get Ludwick & Torrealba
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On the bright side, that was Bell's 4th straight game and he threw 22 pitches
probably why he was inconsistent with both the slider and the fastball
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Real inconsistent. 2 pop ups and a strikeout
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Burrell, Uribe, and Rowand all made outs on balls out of the zone.
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Burrell battled like hell
as for Uribe and Rowand – what else is new? They get themselves out swinging at balls out of the zone constantly. Uribe would have been ahead 2-0 if he didn’t chase a ptich a foot outside. Uribe has done a lot of good things. But plate discipline is not his strength.
the point is that Bell is likely unavailable for the remainder of the series
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Disagree
Unavailable for tomorrow, probably. I’m sure he’d be ready on Sunday if needed.
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Who cares
Giants need to find a way to use their setup/closer combo and not give a crap what the Padres have. Lets get runs people.
by Myemail21479 on Aug 14, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Look, Rowand, you’ve already established yourself as massive bust, a waste of money and a roster spot, and for the most part, a detriment to the team. We know you’re not a very good hitter. We know you can’t hit a cutoff man to save your life. But goddamnit, don’t fucking get picked off at second base. You moron.
I might regret these strong words tomorrow, but right now I’m sort of upset about this.
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you're underestimating the fail
also don’t let a ball go over your head and fall on your ass trying to pick it up
also don’t strike out to end the game with the tying run on first
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Three boats, two quads.
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by cybermaldonado on Aug 13, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I will be relieved when the Padres leave town, but won’t like the fact that the Giants came away empty. Positive thought will resume once our Lords leave our hut by the bay.
Came away empty?
Come on now, there’s still two games in this series, and plenty of baseball to be played after that. Why bother playing the games? The Padres have scraped their way into a lead with a third of the season left, might as well hand them the West, right?
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by sadison bummedgarner on Aug 13, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
You'd get something like this:
Everything is going to be FINE and GREAT! WOOOOOOO
HOLY SHIT WTF
EVERYTHING IS GOING TO HELL FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
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by Gabafnerhagen on Aug 13, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Bochy………………………
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by cybermaldonado on Aug 13, 2010 10:35 PM PDT reply actions
post-game prediction .....
mark my words, Rowand will get jumped by a bunch of drunk Giants fans while walking to his car.
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hahahahaha ......
i’m just playin, man. that pic is from when he broke his nose catching the ball.
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by GIANT stoner on Aug 13, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
okay, okay .....
my bad bro. i take it back …… didn’t mean anything by it. we cool? haha.
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by GIANT stoner on Aug 13, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Uh, as much as I want Rowand off the team, I don’t wish harm on him.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 13, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
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by Aquaria on Aug 13, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
so true.
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by GIANT stoner on Aug 13, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
“Two Aaron Rowands leave for the centerfield wall at the same time. One is going 50mph, the other is a gritty gamer. Which one swings at a slider down and away first?”
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
then you'd prefer the Giants lost yesterday?
Don’t get me wrong, I still would trade him for Milton Bradley.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
What if it is broken because the hands have fallen off?
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- Republik of Mancunia
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Aug 13, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
me either ......
i would, however, like to have a word with both him and J. Sanchez for “calling” the Padres sweep. that was bullshit. i know i’m dwelling on the topic, but i still can’t get over it.
"Todd Wellemeyer is pitching today? Get out your umbrellas! A shit storm is coming!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 13, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
He’ll fight back because he’s s gamer, but all his punches will wildly miss their targets.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Aug 13, 2010 10:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
dude
Fuck the padres. And san diego aka whales vagina as a whole. Anchorman anyone? But seriously fuck the padres. Surprisingly bay area sports teams don’t run their mouths as often as they should but in this case…c’mon jonathan sanchez..at least follow through on your shit talking. Giants will still win the series!!
by nhlogan on Aug 13, 2010 10:37 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
FUCK
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Aug 13, 2010 10:39 PM PDT reply actions
Jonathan Sanchez says he doesn’t regret his sweep prediction. “I believe in my team, you know? I’ve got confidence. Nothing against them…”
“…but I know we keep fighting out there. If we keep playing like this, better and better, I think we’re going to make it.”
actions > words
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- Republik of Mancunia
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Aug 13, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd, Useful, soooo rec'd.
"Todd Wellemeyer is pitching today? Get out your umbrellas! A shit storm is coming!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 13, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
talk – action = 0
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 14, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Shut up and get down a bunt
and while your at it, don’t give up a lead in 3 batters.
I have nothing against him
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m irritated that he made the guarantee thing, but I don’t think it’s the reason the Padres won tonight.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
He shouldn’t have said it but it’s not like he went out there and walked 8 in 3 innings and gave up 10 runs. He gave up 3 runs and two of them were on fielder’s choices like Grant said. Come on.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
2nd inning
Look – he made the boast he needed to back it up. Giants get him two quick. 3 fucking batters its tied. And when you are 7-1 against a team and you do that, you have the upper hand. Confidence matters in sports. I mane why do you think Luke Gregerson becomes unhittable when he faces the Giants. Just luck? Coincidence? No. He KNOWS that he onws them. So he’s more confident. The Giants KNOW that he owns them, so they are less confident.
He also blew a key chance to promote a big inning when he couldn’t get a bunt down. Little things matter when you know damn well its going to be a close game.
And if Rowand doesn’t fall down, Headley doesn’t get to 3rd. The tying run doesn’t score. I’m not saying Sanchez pitched well or anything. I just think people jumping on him is ridiculous. No excuse for the bunt but Rowand gets picked off there and it’s a different inning as well.
Also, Gregerson is pretty much unhittable against anyone.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Even thinking the name Luke Gregerson makes me cry.
The Cardinals traded him to the Padres for a SS who ended never playing meaningful baseball for them. Khahil and his mental problems are another sad story. But, anyways. Imagine the Cardinals with an arm like that in the back end of their bullpen?
Plus, that’d mean he wouldn’t be on the Padres.
What, a guy who scores after a booming triple is a cheap run if it comes on a groundout? But honestly, I wasn’t nearly as pissed about his pitching as I was about his bunting.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 13, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
boooming double + what should have been a fielding error
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Aug 13, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
two booming doubles — each with nobody out
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 14, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Not suggesting his comments mattered
but you don’t pop off like that when you have done damn near nothing in your career. He hasn’t earned that right.
“Dallas Braden? What has he done?”
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s really better not to pop off like that regardless.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 14, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Same.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 13, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I love him too
Just, he needs to shut the fuck up and get a goddamn bunt down. Also, don’t give back the lead the second you get it (even though I hate that fucking cliche, I’m invoking it now).
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Its not a cliche
Its important. And it was particularly important given the fact that the Giants have been the Padres bitch all flipping year.
No, it's a cliche
Because if he could decide when to give up runs and when not to, wouldn’t he just decide to never give up runs?
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
He made two mistakes in the 2nd inning…
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
My thoughts on this game
If I ever see Aaron Rowand in real life I’ll have to hold back the great urge to attack him. I can’t think of a baseball player that disgusts me more than any other. He has no clue at what he’s doing at all on the field. He looked awful on the field, on the basepaths and at the plate. What the fuck are you here for then? Jesus Christ, just get the fuck out. It’s awful seeing my team being held back by a stupid ass contract and a stupid ass ballplayer and the stupid ass organization that continues to run his ass out there.
I just want to kick his ass. I’d give him a baseball bat to defend himself as well, he wouldn’t be able to hit me anyways.
Fuck that game. I’m still optimistic but damn this game can be frustrated. Go MadBum.
fuck yourself
Rowand does win games in spots (like yesterday or whenever the Giants play the Marlins)
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Broken clocks again.
He’s a terrible player. Just because he does something right once a month doesn’t mean he deserves to be on a team.
Can everyone just please stop responding to him?
Makes things easier. Let him rave alone.
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
Any player can get hits at random times that just happen to impact a ballgame.
No matter how horrible they are. And mind you, Rowand is quite horrible. As a semi-platoon player against Left Handed Pitching, he has some value. The second he faces a RHP, however, someone dun goofed.
I’m not sure how much longer you get to keep telling everyone to fuck themselves.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t see why anyone ever gets to tell anyone else to fuck themselves.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
yeah
That privilege is reserved for Duane Kuiper.
Bowkermania runs wild...in Indianapolis.
by rightcenterfielder on Aug 13, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Fixed
I don’t see why anyone ever gets to tell anyone else to fuck themselves, with the exception of people who are talking to Damon Bruce, who totally deserves it.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Goofus almost always issues a warning when it happens. I’m just not sure where to draw the ban line here. Believe me: I would LOVE to ban this guy. But that’s not quite the right reason to do it.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
How many times has this guy been warned for it? If it’s a lot…you probably don’t have to feel too bad about it.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
He’s never actually been warned.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Seems odd.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean
Goofus has even warned Scout6 about personal attacks.
Well, this seems like a good time.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
An actual serious warning?
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
How did I miss this thread?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Cookyman got warned for something much less obnoxious.
Seems like normal people and genuine trolls have separate standards.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
Um, Cookyman’s never gotten a serious warning.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
oh
Goofus said that he warned him.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
by oldjacket on Aug 14, 2010 11:04 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe it’s time to start?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
that felt good.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I should have realized you were doing it, too.
I’m going to see which one of us was more tactful.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I WAS!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah but I got mine in first.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
….
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Huh. I flag his comments all the time.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Flags really don’t do a whole lot.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Rally the troops.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 14, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
if you mods did your jobs you'd probably have to ban 75% of the members
No personal attacks. No politics. No racist, sexist, or homophobic remarks. No sex in the champagne room.
Swear if you must, but picking your spots will make the swearing much more effective.
If you are a fan of an opposing team, play nice. We have it bad enough as it is. We welcome opposing viewpoints, but trolling will not be tolerated.
If you are signing up just to promote your own website, please don’t. Become an active, long-time member of the community, though, you can get away with an unbelievable amount of self-promotion.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
I do NOT promote my own website
which was NSFW when I had it
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
I didn’t say anything about promoting posts. Every other post you have is some type of insult to the above poster.
hoky, it’s a warning, and you got it because you’ve stretched our considerable patience pretty thin these last few weeks with your increasing levels of profane attacks.
Deal with it.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I distinctly recall being more hostile last season
and received no warnings, but it does make me wonder what the not anti-Giant trolls and not competing bloggers get warned about
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
If you want to be perfectly fair, your account has gotten multiple comment flags and troll flags from other members. Even without the “fuck yourself” above, that history kind of begs for a warning. Sorry, dude.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
You are way, way, way on the wrong side of the ledger.
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 14, 2010 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
The tautological ambiguity of the Golden Rule
has a vagueness which is difficult to fully grasp amid all the sub-threads concerning food, booze, music, politics, hockey, football, basketball, TV, movie-marathons…
Damn you, MindQuiz!
You must be right about me.
Average Giants Fan IQ=90
What’s Yours? Can you beat it? Take the 3-minute Quiz Now!
MindQuiz.com
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Are you getting into an argument about the rules with the person WHO RUNS THE SITE
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 14, 2010 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Whether the things I mentioned are distractions or contributions
are subjectively ambiguous. They are distracting in general because they often take up huge chunks of bandwith on topics not related to San Francisco Giants Baseball, but they do contribute to the semi-uniqueness of McCovey Chronicles.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
And your arguments are offensive and detrimental to this blog. They are not-friendly side conversations.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 14, 2010 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Hearing you whine is hilarious.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 14, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
stop responding to him
stop responding to him stop responding to him
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
I have
But it’s going to be really hard to get everyone on the site to always not give him the attention he loves.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I believe in us
for heaven’s sake, we’ve already got the groug to ignore him. Now we just need the grougthink…
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
I need to
I’m really bad at ignoring him. I will try harder. We’ll double our efforts.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
denny bautista and aaron rowand
MVP DOWN THE STRETCH NERDS!
If Rowand were coming at me with a bat, I'd curl up into a ball and yell, "I'm a slider in the dirt and a foot off the plaaaaaaatttttteee!!!!"
SAVED BY THE WHIFF!!
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 14, 2010 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions
You know what
I don’t mind the Padres. I don’t. They’re a constantly overlooked franchise, and I enjoy the fact that their success is making every pre-season prognosticator eat some serious crow.
If the Padres go on to win the World Series, I’d be like, man, that’s cool. Good for them. Shows the West is legit.
I’m not mad at the Padres at all.
I’m mad at the fucking Giants.
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
by GiantPain on Aug 13, 2010 10:42 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I do too
But they don’t seem like jerks, their fans have been ignored and beaten down for so long that they’re not jerks either.
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
by GiantPain on Aug 13, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
a buddy is a Pods fan
I want them to win a hundred times before I want the Hated Dodgers, the freaking Cubs, or naturaly the @#$%! Yankees or Red Sox, but.. that’s not enough
You're too compassionate
My level of hatred for the Padres is only behind the Dodgers, Yankee and Lakers of all sports teams.
Torrealba seems like a jerk
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I've said it before
but I actually can’t hate him because of what happened with his son (being kidnapped)
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
I honestly didn’t know that. Fuck the inbred Hairston brothers then..
Puking Orange and Black since 1981
Proud member of Sabean's "lunatic fringe" or in other words, "vast majority"
Fuck any team that puts Eckstein in their lineup.
by Myemail21479 on Aug 14, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah well he could have been our jerk
and we could have kept Nathan and Liriano. It still pisses me off.
Yeah, but they traded for Pierzynski rather than let Torrealba start.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yeah, I never did forgive Sabean for that. If they were trading for Mauer? Sure. But AJ was a punchless hacker even before Liriano finally realized his potential.
and yet he has a WS ring
from the year after he was with the Giants
and he went to the postseason again in 2008 and might do it again in 2010
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
I dont think so
Winn was an August pick up I think. I may be wrong, but I don’t think Torrealba was traded for Winn.
He was. Torrealba + Foppert for Winn
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
He was
That was a good trade.
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
You guys want Winn back?
Bork would probably trade Nate for him. I’d be okay with that.
Hm?
Winn is hitting .244/.327/.407 with the Cards
For the backup OF that I assume he is (though I could be wrong about his usage), that ain’t bad, especially for a guy who can play all 3 OF positions quite well.
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
It's mostly that he gets double switched in for people he really shouldn't be double switched into. And we get frustrated by that.
We have a ton of good outfield depth (less now, after Ludwick was traded), and Winn doesn’t’ have a future on this team. He’s fine as a 5th outfielder, just I’d prefer to have Nate.
I agree mostly but that’s not what I’m going to feel if they win the World Series
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Y'know, if the Padres do end up going all the way...
I’ll be thinking about this post here. That means alot. Yeah, I know I’m a fan of the wrong team on here. But I’m no hater or anything. You guys have a great ballclub, and that Posey kid is showin’ some real promise. Best of luck to you guys down the stretch.
"Winfield goes back to the wall, he hits his head on the wall and... it rolls off! It's rolling all the way back to second base! This is a terrible thing for the Padres." - Jerry Coleman
by FriarFaithful4Life on Aug 13, 2010 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Best of luck to you guys as well.
Emotions are always running high after a frustrating game like this, of course – but I never wish a team, a player, or a fan ill will. Simply hope that the team(s) I am a fan of manage to prevail. I believe the Giants ‘are’ the slightly superior team (although the gap is slightly closer now that you guys picked up Ludwick), and hope that there’s enough time left in this season for that belief to manifest.
Speaking of Ludwick…treat him well. He’s one of my favorite players ever, and it makes me sad to see him not in St Louis any longer.
I know how you feel...
After 99 losses in ‘08, I was pretty pissy myself. Yet I’m also the same way. I don’t wish harm on anyone, just good fortune for the team I support. You guys do have a better rotation and a nice lineup, plus a big gun of your own in the back of the ‘pen. There really is alot to like about the 2010 Giants this year, and there’s no reason to see why you guys can’t write a Cinderella story of your own. And don’t worry, Luddy will fit right in with us. He’s quickly become a fan favorite over in GLB.
"Winfield goes back to the wall, he hits his head on the wall and... it rolls off! It's rolling all the way back to second base! This is a terrible thing for the Padres." - Jerry Coleman
by FriarFaithful4Life on Aug 13, 2010 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
lolz
"Winfield goes back to the wall, he hits his head on the wall and... it rolls off! It's rolling all the way back to second base! This is a terrible thing for the Padres." - Jerry Coleman
by FriarFaithful4Life on Aug 14, 2010 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Continuing from the other thread
I don’t care if it sounds bitter, the Padres are lucky. The stats back it up. I’m starting to think that they might be able to continue it for the rest of the year, but actual logic would say otherwise.
Sometimes you have to forget the stats
They are good at what they do. They play 6 inning games very well. They take advantage of their opportunities and they do not beat themselves. it ain’t particularly exciting. But its effective.
But somehow becoming a much better hitting team when runners are in scoring position can’t be accredited that much to skill. They’re not shitty hitters who just somehow become really good under pressure. "Clutch’ might exist in some form but at the level they’ve gotten it, it’s been ridiculous.
by kingofthacove on Aug 13, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Did they get a hit with RISP tonight?
I can think of one – Ludwig with Gonzales on second. They had productive outs to score runs and they pitched. Their is nothing lucky about their pitching. Its damn good.
There is an awful lot that is lucky about their pitching, aside from Latos, Gregerson, and Bell.
Shitty K rates and Mediocre BB rates all over the place. Absurdly unsustainable BABIP rates. Their bullpen is superb, and I love Latos – but calling the majority of their starting rotation ‘good’ is laughable.
Good defense, two good players, a very good bullpen and a very good starter doesn’t make them a 95 win team though.
It’s just mind-blowing how many areas of their team that they’re overachieving in.
Yes, yes. But defense and park don't make a pitcher actually any better.
Merely artificially deflate certain things. They’re still outperforming their true talent levels by such a degree that park and defense alone cannot account for it. And it’s frustrating as hell.
from your typing fingers to the Baseball Gods omniscient sensory apparatus. just saying, expect a lower BABIP even for an average staff.
I expect a slightly lower BABIP than normal given park and defense.
Just the level that they are at is beyond even the variances you would attribute to such things, as limited as they are. It’s a tad absurd.
team BABIP of .285?
The A’s BABIP against is .281, and that’s done the same way: good defense, plus a park that takes away hits. Maybe the Pods staff is a .290-even-in-Petco-with-that-defense staff, but I do not see theirs as a .300-BABIP baseline.
I put it as 'should be in the .296ish range'. BABIP really is BABIP.
While hitters can control their BABIP a little bit, pitchers largely cannot, even taking park and defense into account.
Individual pitchers can’t do very much, but pitching in a favorable park and in front of a good defense must decrease their expected baselines. .296 seems high to me. Pitching half your games in Petco alone is worth ~2% off the usual .303ish, so .297. A good defense has to be worth another percent or three, and voila: baseline .290.
Or...
itching half your games in Petco alone is worth ~2% off the usual .303ish, so .297. A good defense has to be worth another percent or three, and voila: baseline .296.
:P
It’s not a major deal, but I’d say a fluctuation of nearly 15% from the norm to the actual is much larger than even ballpark and defense can account for.
Bad bunt. Pickoff.
That’s not due to good pitching so much as poor execution and a mental error. Okay, the bunt has some to do with pitching, but a good bunter doesn’t bunt it hard, which was the main problem. Had he bunted well, it wouldn’t have mattered.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Aug 13, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Tonight has very little to do with them have a .380 OBP with RISP over the entire year.
by kingofthacove on Aug 13, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I left the GDT because I was worried I'd throw my computer
I threw my phone instead. Still works!
"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."
I punched the shit out of the corner of my mattress.
It has a fist-shaped pit now, but I never put my feet there anyway.
Unofficial adoptive father of Grant. That sounds unbelievably awkward.
by Gabafnerhagen on Aug 13, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm in trouble
First I punched it, and nothing happened. Then I kicked another wall not even that hard and it just caved in. I was shocked.
lol
I threw a shoe during one Italy the Italy games during this year’s World Cup. There’s a small hole in the wall as a result of it.
"I AIN'T HAVIN IT."
Dude. RUN.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 13, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s probably the most mature thing to do.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 13, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably
I’m also starting to realize I have occasional anger problems. And it’s typically over stuff that I shouldn’t be as upset about. I should probably be concerned.
Yeah, I’ve got the same anger problems, tbh. I usually just let out the anger by raging on the internet.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 13, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I should make a specific tumblr just for my raging, lol.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 13, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
This should be an interesting project.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 13, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, I did, haha.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 13, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
OMG, i'm checkin it out now
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I let mine out by yelling at people when I’m driving.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, didn’t mean to cut you off yesterday.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I would have just yelled at somebody else, anyway. So you saved them the pain.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I do this way too much.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 14, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I do that too, but it doesn't help
Throwing things usually helps. I should probably purchase items that are suitable for my anger.
Maybe I’ll live in a giant foam house or something.
A giant foam house would be an interesting sight to see.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 13, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I found a thing at a local dollar store.
It was a 12 pack of this horrible clayish saucers for a buck. I bought three of them just to smash into my wooden floor beside my computer chair when the urge to destroy things overcame me.
It was the best 3 bucks I’ve ever spent, but the irritation I had at having to clean up the clay/ceramic/whatever chunks overtook the stress relief it brought me.
I used to save up old burnt out lightbulbs, they make a nice resounding crash, pop, shatter when hurled into a metal dumpster. We’ve mostly switched to LEDs now …very little opportunity for smashies anymore.
Cover it with a poster.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
The placing would be too obvious. I wish I had the rationality to remove a picture on the wall, punch that area, and put the picture back.
But, anger and rationality do not belong together.
Spackle.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not buying this whole "Padres are the better team" stuff.
They’ve been riding an excellent pitching staff all season, and really, there’s not much earthshaking beyond that. They’ve got a small ball team behind some great pitching.
You know, the same things everyone east of Barstow says about us.
Odd, I remember a team like that last year that made it all the way to September before they finally lost the wild card.
My point is not necessarily that the Padres will crumble soon, but the standings now are a painful reminder that we have more in common with them than not. Were it not for such a lopsided record between our two teams, we would easily be in first.
Like others have said, I don’t really believe in one team having another’s number (what are the chances of losing a one-hitter 1-0 anyway?) but I DO think that games against SD from here on out are that “must win” category nobody likes to talk about. If we can’t beat them more often, it WILL bite us in the ass.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Our luck in one run games against the Padres have to even out eventually. COME ON UNIVERSE
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Hope your right
but I think its more about the Pads executing better.
i dunno
not with the guys they have to pitch the last 3 innings
Maybe
In very general terms, it seems like we have a stronger set of starters, while their pitching strength is more closely tied to a strong bullpen. (Wilson has been great, and Romo has been VERY good, but the rest have been inconsistent and/or injured) Until tonight, it seemed like they were constantly getting late inning runs off us, while we tend to score earlier in the game from them.
One of those nice/frustrating matchups where they’re more likely to score later, and we’re more likely to score earlier. Their challenge is to shut us down early, while ours appears to be holding them off.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
maybe indeed
it’s getting through the first 6 that’s the problem, and if timmy or sanchy or bummy doesn’t do that, either running out of gas or giving up too many runs, it’s a lot harder to do to the padres what the giants did to, say, the cubs in the final innings.
Having the other teams number
I realize it makes no sense statistically etc. But it gets in players heads. And that matters. Giants go up 2 in the first. Finally things looking up. Bam – 3 hitters game tied. That was HUGE. PAdres have a ton of confidence against the Giants.
This is another key point.
Latos is the only real arm they have in the rotation, and they simply CAN’T run him out there every 5th day for an entire season. They did a smart thing by shutting him down for a while in mid season, but even counting that….
This will be interesting to watch
IIRC they said they wanted to limit his and Richard’s innings and they play 30 games in Sept… I could see them adding another arm in August
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
They should contact the Cardinals.
And start running Jeff Suppan out there every 5th day. That’d make my world go ‘round. He’d be off the Cards (my favorite team) and giving up retarded amounts of runs for the Padres (which helps my second favorite team out).
Maybe the Giants could send them secret double agent Todd Wellemeyer
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Hmm.... replace Latos with the Suppan/Wellemeyer 2-headed monster.
Or better yet, put Wellemeyer in the Padres bullpen, and convince them he’s great in the 8th inning.
That would be my dream
…although the Padres did see him walk 4 consecutive batters in that one game.
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
their starting pitching isn’t really even that good. 3 averageish pitchers, one really good pitcher and one terrible pitcher.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
All the more reason that I honestly think we stand a chance.
We just can’t afford to throw them away for any dumb mistakes.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Well they DO lead the majors in ERA
What is it – a mirage? Their starters know they only have to give 6. That helps. I think Black has been masterful at using his pen and scratching out runs. Earlier in the year, the Pads beat the Giants because they were simply the more aggressive team. Tonight, they beat the Giants through small ball.
My biggest hope is that the innings catch up with the bullpen and they wilt down the stretch.
a big part of this is Petco
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Aug 13, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
A large part of it is in fact a mirage.
They don’t strike out many batters, they walk more than they should given their shitty K rates, and they simply don’t let balls drop for hits, which is largely luck, however frustrating that luck is. Their defense ‘is’ good, of course, and the park suppressing dingers helps them out – but god 4/5ths of that rotation is mediocre at best.
Dude.... Winning>Stats
Only thing that matters is the W. Padres are a better team because of W-L record, period. Still it pisses me off they win 1 run games like they were born to. Giants havent looked great since Jimenez tore them up, Cubs just handed them a few games. Giants need to remember how they played in July and NOT see the Padres bullpen behind in the game.
by Myemail21479 on Aug 14, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
But Stats --> Winning
These are the two groups of people I keep talking about.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s an arrow, btw.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Woah
The 2010 San Diego Padres are the 09-10 Phoenix Coyotes.
Both teams that went into the season with people predicting they’ll finish at the bottom of the pack. Both teams have relatively cheap rosters and few star players. Both teams won a lot of 1-run/goal games (through lots of bloops/shootout wins). Both teams went through the season at or near the top of the division.
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Fools and Sages
so that means
we’ll beat them in a thriller the last game of the regular season, right?
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
by MonochromeGarden on Aug 13, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
It means Posey will get a walk-off hit against them in the final game to win the NL West.
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Fools and Sages
Juicy!
I loved your 09-10 season recap on FTF, by the way :) i’ve lurked there and here quite a bit before i finally got an account.
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
by MonochromeGarden on Aug 13, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha, thanks
And it fits so well! Couture is known as BUST over at FTF, and well, it’s BUSTer Posey. And they’re both rookies! And the Giants play the Padres in their last series of the season!
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Fools and Sages
and the TEETH!
well, Gerald’s teeth are actually very nice. Logan’s teeth are just… prominent.
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
by MonochromeGarden on Aug 13, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
One of his teammates should just knock them out in practice
Do him a favor.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
c'mon he's a one-man "Jaws" theme!
But really, I’m surprised they’ve lasted this long. He’s a hockey player for Christ sakes.
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
by MonochromeGarden on Aug 13, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
There was an article about the team dentist either this season or last season, and apparently Marleau has lost “the equivalent of two teeth” in his life, so there are players that are good at avoiding that.
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Fools and Sages
Damnit, I still feel that
The 2010 Padres are the 2009 Giants. We played strong for longer than anyone expected us to based on the strength of our pitching, but we faded eventually. I hope the Pads do the same.
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
Also, maybe if we didn't post so many revolting rally foods pictures, we'd win.
Or Jonathan Sanchez should be allowed to say less about an entire series than Grant does about any given game, take your pick.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
I had the unfortunate luck of leaving when we are up 2-1 (family birthday party) and getting back in the bottom of the ninth to see us lose 3-2.
I almost don’t even want to bother piecing together what happened, because it seems like typical Giants vs. Padres choking this season.
Let’s just move on and get the rest of this series, and pray that the four game series in Petco next month isn’t a disaster. (YAY another four game series!!!…..not.)
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Sanchez was being a bit moronic with the 'guarantee'
but I doubt it had any impact whatsoever on this game, or on any future games. Now, if he’d have flipped out, said he hated the Padres, called them whiny little bitches, just to make himself clear – well, that stirs up a level of emotion that well could impact a series.
I think Torrealba at minimum was motivated by Jonathan’s flapping gums.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 14, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Drunken Revelations
My friend asked me what Aaron Rowand did to piss me off tonight. I told him he went Rowand one, Rowand two, Rowand three while looking like Stevie Wonder at the plate to finish the game. I told him that if he were unknown he’d probably be a AA player with a little pop, and that’s when it hit me: you can’t spell “Aaron” without Double-A. FUCK YOU AND THE STOOL YOU SQUATTED IN ON SCOTT!
now skeeter, he ain't hurtin' nobody.
by bondo on Aug 13, 2010 10:46 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
who the fuck
names their sports team after Latin Clergy?? really…what the fuck is that all about?! Fuck you Padres, Fuck you San Diego, and I’m having another drink and toasting to you totally fucking failing for the rest of the year. i fucking hate every team in the NL West not named Giants. Rant over.
Puking Orange and Black since 1981
Proud member of Sabean's "lunatic fringe" or in other words, "vast majority"
that sums up
exactly how I feel. Thank you Grant.
Puking Orange and Black since 1981
Proud member of Sabean's "lunatic fringe" or in other words, "vast majority"
I like the gif from the Series Preview thread more.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Ladies and Gentlemen...
OUR OVERLORD
"Imagine how many banners we would have if I was GM..." - Drew Remenda
Thanks for the Memories Nabby.
by BrandonMK50 on Aug 13, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
rec'd
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
patience grasshopper
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I just rec’d the U
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Aug 13, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL for using 1 SL
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Wise words, Lord Awkward Fontenot.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 13, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I was kinda hoping to see "fuchsia."
Just for the laughs.
by Aquaria on Aug 13, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I approve of this message.
Unofficial adoptive father of Grant. That sounds unbelievably awkward.
by Gabafnerhagen on Aug 13, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Very clever.
Got any more of that “hooch?”
I’m out.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 13, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder where this is going!
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
*waits for inevitable Combo Breaker*
Unofficial adoptive father of Grant. That sounds unbelievably awkward.
by Gabafnerhagen on Aug 13, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
rec'd
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
jporny .......
which one do i rec’d??? there’s so many of them!!!
"Todd Wellemeyer is pitching today? Get out your umbrellas! A shit storm is coming!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 13, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
ALL of them.
Unofficial adoptive father of Grant. That sounds unbelievably awkward.
by Gabafnerhagen on Aug 13, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
If we can't beat the Padres,
We need other teams to beat them for us. That’s why we need to hope the Dodgers and Rockies utterly own the Padres.
Honestly, they must be the about the same quality of player by now.
by GrooveGiant on Aug 13, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Rowand is slightly better
if only used against Lefties. His defense generally is respectable, at least compared to Velez.
/ball goes over head and falls on can
as Headley steams into 3B
One play does not a player make, mind you. That was horrible, but on the whole, he's above average defensively, and has 'some' value to the team as a 4th outfielder.
I’d just prefer to see Nate start in Right.
/whiffs at a slider in the dirt
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 14, 2010 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions
This is wrong.
"Baseball is a game filled with moments of anticipation. The ones who can keep their calm while heading in to a storm can make their mark on a season. And what happens in those moments is what turns mere men… in to Giants."
My Son
Yes
I will agree with you on this point.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Let's talk about the positives
At least we didn’t have to see Eckstein’s face on TV. My coffee table thanks that.
That is the only positive I can think of.
UH-OH!
GRANT IS USING MS PAINT!!! WHY GRANT?? WHYYYYYYY? lol.
"Todd Wellemeyer is pitching today? Get out your umbrellas! A shit storm is coming!"
Guyz? Giants wont make the playoffs now
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
LOL Brodie Brazil on the post-game
“Joe Mauer – well played, Mauer – he will score.”
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Fools and Sages
LOL
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 13, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm glad
I’m not the only one who noticed Richard’s disgusting fucking grin whenever he went back into the dugout. I’ve never wanted to reach into my TV screen and smack someone so badly before.
I don't have a very high opinion of southern California, in sports or in general
by short_shifter on Aug 13, 2010 10:53 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Sanchez shoulda made it Dirty
but ummmm yeah, didn’t happen.
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
by MonochromeGarden on Aug 13, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Clayton Richard leads the league
in having a punchable face. God, I hate his fucking mug.
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious shit!
-Doc Brown, Zito fan
by jordanovich on Aug 14, 2010 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Not to mention
my general distaste for LHPs in the NL West named Clayton.
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious shit!
-Doc Brown, Zito fan
by jordanovich on Aug 14, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions
If someone had guaranteed a sweep against my team, I’d have a pretty smug little grin myself.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 14, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
here's something to take your mind off of things ........
MARIAH CAREY FAILS AT BASEBALL!!!! AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
"Todd Wellemeyer is pitching today? Get out your umbrellas! A shit storm is coming!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 13, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
HHAHA, LOOK AT ME IN MY STILLETTOOOS
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
IM MARRIED TO NICK CANNON EVERYONE!!!!!
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
"COME SEE GLITTER EVERYONE!!!!!.......
…….. oh wait, that was 10 years ago and the only movie i’ve been in since."
"Todd Wellemeyer is pitching today? Get out your umbrellas! A shit storm is coming!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 13, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 13, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
…She was in Precious.
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Fools and Sages
Wasn’t she nominated for something because of it, too?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
She won Breakthrough Actress Performance at the Palm Springs International Film Festival for that role, according to wikipedia.
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Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
never saw it.
"Todd Wellemeyer is pitching today? Get out your umbrellas! A shit storm is coming!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 13, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
She was in the trailers for it.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
brother, i smoke too much weed to remember mariah carey in a trailer for a movie that came out a year ago. LOL!
"Todd Wellemeyer is pitching today? Get out your umbrellas! A shit storm is coming!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 13, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
She should be locked in the trailer and NEVER allowed to leave it.
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 14, 2010 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions
To think that Glitter was not the end of Mariah Carey’s acting career.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
hahahahaha, i know right?
i’m really surprised it wasn’t. well, you learn something new everyday!
"Todd Wellemeyer is pitching today? Get out your umbrellas! A shit storm is coming!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 13, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
omgosh, really?
that’s so sad.
♥ NATHAN ♥ Posey ♥ Eugenio ♥ Andres ♥ Sergio ♥ Eli ♥ Travis ♥ baetown415 ♥
I believe in you, DrDC
Now go heal some of Washington’s sickest people.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
it's not always gonna be this grey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4aP2iKa16g
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Ah George. You were always my favorite.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
mine too
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
by MonochromeGarden on Aug 13, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s one game, and they lost by one run. There are 161 other games in the season, so this game makes up less than one percent of the season. Both teams messed up, it’s just the Padres messed up a little less. Doesn’t mean that the Giants suck, just means that they weren’t as good as the Padres were tonight. And some teams just have another team’s number. It happens.
And hey, still in playoff position. And as a Sharks fan, I can tell you this – regular season records mean shit in the playoffs.
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Fools and Sages
by mymclife on Aug 13, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Yeah, but we need our regular season record to be good enough to get into the playoffs. :)
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Yeah, there aren’t 8 playoff spots in baseball…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
To be fair
Hockey playoffs are the greatest thing ever ever ever.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
AGREEEEEED!! alot better than anything
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
fuck ..... yes.
as they say, “don’t fuck up, it’s all for the Stanley Cup.”
"Todd Wellemeyer is pitching today? Get out your umbrellas! A shit storm is coming!"
by GIANT stoner on Aug 13, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm biased, but agreed
Sudden death OT, players playing with broken ribs/only one testicle/no cartilage in their knees, the 3-0 comebacks, the 15th place team reaching the Finals, the solidarity of playoff beards, and the Cup ceremony after the final game of the Finals (where all the players individually raise the Cup and skate around before management does).
American Heroes: Joe Pavelski, Buster Posey, David Backes
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
You forgot torn groins
If anything screams tough, it’s trying to skate with a TORN FUCKING GROIN. I can’t stop cringing.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
DANY HEATLEY IS A SHAAAAAAAARK
I’M A SHAAAAAAAARK
I TORE MY GROIN
I’M A SHAAAAAAAARK
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
by MonochromeGarden on Aug 13, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t believe people were complaining about his level of play after finding that out. I bet they were the same people who complained about when Thornton played in the playoffs with broken ribs and kept getting checked.
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Also Marleau many of the years
Can’t remember, but he was destroyed pretty much every playoffs outside of this year, right? Or am I thinking of Thornton?
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I think both of them have played through considerable injuries. I know for a fact in the 09 playoffs Marleau had a pretty bad knee injury that hampered his skating, which is kind of important for a guy who relies on his speed. But yeah, I think Marleau has been pretty injured almost every playoffs.
Of course, the “destroyed in every playoffs” trophy goes to Milan Michalek, who needs to learn to keep his damn head up. Kind of glad he’s in Ottawa now.
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GO WARRIORS!!! FUCK THE HATERS
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Repent now sinner
That path only leads to darkness.
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what other basketball team would you like me to root for, good sir?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
None
Basketball is the worst spectator sport ever.
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by marcello on Aug 13, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Any sport where homefield advantage is that crucial is broken
To say nothing of the end of close games and how they destroy flow.
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Perhaps you have statistical proof but I don’t see basketball having that big of a homefield advantage, at least any different than any other sport.
Big difference. Check out the best teams in the NBA and their home record. It’s absurd, 75-80% win percentage. Baseball is around 60%, I believe.
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Interesting
I don’t take anything in the NBA seriously though, sometimes I feel like the players actively decide when to show up or not.
How does that happen though? At least in baseball, I can understand the park dimensions, the environment and the last at bat coming into play but in basketball, what is it?
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Crowd, I assume
Small, confined stadiums make home crowds exceptionally loud and intimidating, I guess.
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Eyeballing it
Between hockey and baseball, somewhere around 65-70%.
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I guess but both teams hear the crowd noise.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 13, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that never made sense to me
But I do live in my mother’s basement. I guess it’s really hard to just imagine they’re cheering for you.
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This is hockey, but once the crowd in the Tank booed so loud after a replay of what was initially called a no-goal that the refs went to review it. The call was upheld, but the booing and reactions from the crowd probably influence the refs at least a little bit.
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NBA is fixed
People like seeing the home team winning. Pleasing the fans encourages them to come more often and pay more $$.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Aug 13, 2010 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
The whole Donaghy thing was frightening
It’s hard to think the same thing wouldn’t happen in other sports too though.
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True
Read this if you haven’t. Not sure how much of it is true, but it is terrifying.
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Rec'd for being the absolute truth
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by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 14, 2010 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions
rec'd
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 13, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
regular season records mean shit in the playoffs
And if there’s any other group of fans who get this, it’s San Diego fans.
I don't have a very high opinion of southern California, in sports or in general
by short_shifter on Aug 13, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
GOOD NEWS EVERYBODY
Jose Guillen is riding in on his white horse to prevent any more games where we score only 2 runs. Our problems are solved!
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Thanks
Prof. Farnsworth
;)
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by short_shifter on Aug 13, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Could have used him tongiht
That would have meant Torres in center. He doesn’t fall like a clown leading to an extra run. Or at least if he was around and not in the lineup, Ishi could have hit for Rowand in the 9th. As it was, I thought Ishi should pinch hit. But of course, all they had left after him is Whiteside. And Eli can’t hit his way out of a paper bag.
Hey – he ain’t Rowand.
He ain't better than Rowand either
And we don’t need Guillen to to play Torres in center. At least, we shouldn’t. Torres should just be the CF.
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Rowand > Guillen, because CLANK.
We really, really don’t need to see the inevitable Burrell/Rowand?Guillien outfields that this would spawn. Clank. Clank. Clank.
I’d still prefer to see Burrell/Torres/Scheirholtz in the OF, with Huff at first.
Yup
There was nothing wrong with that alignment or swap TI and Nate with Huff in RF. But no, we need proven vet Jose Guillen and now our team is worse.
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The TEAM isn't necessarily worse, but the starting lineup is if he's in it.
WIth how the NL works, having bats that can be productive pinch hitters isn’t an awful thing. It’s just…..he shouldn’t be in the field. Ever.
They could have used Fontenot as well as Ishi. I’m not surprised you’ve forgotten he’s there. So has Bochy.
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by rxmeister on Aug 14, 2010 5:54 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
+1
especially ish, since huff could have moved out to rf and torres gone to cf if they ended up in extra frames
From now on, the Giants score THREE runs
And give up 6.
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My Son
Out of hooch . . .
. . . and the goddam boy is out with his “friends.” His job is to bring me my nectar, dammit, and where is he? Not here, I’ll tell you that.
Might hafta walk to the Am/;m ur sompin.
/i member a better time . . ./
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by gallo del cielo on Aug 13, 2010 10:56 PM PDT reply actions
Yes it’s only mid-August, but sometimes this team really makes me want to channel my inner Chris “Mad Dog” Russo
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Pablo Sandoval
made a questionable but freaking awesome play when he tagged Gonzo!
I love that guy. He will be the heart of this team
I hate the Dodgers, Patriots, Dolphins, and terroirsts
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Aug 13, 2010 11:00 PM PDT reply actions
Was I the only one watching who thought there was a decent chance Panda was going to miss the tag and Gonzo would have scored?
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
That was an awful play.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Aug 13, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
at least the new of Montreal album is good.
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Please ignore the following ignorant rant
Fuck this Padre shit. Goddamned sick of this already. SF simply cannot hit their pitchers. Doesn’t seem to matter who it is. The exhumed rotted corpse of Eric Show could probably shut down the Giants right now.
They can absolutely positively NOT hit their pitchers. And until they start to show that they can, I’m not even gonna waste my time with any more of these Padre games.
So we’re “in this thing.” Big fucking deal. Let’s have the lineup NOT shit the bed against SD before I give a crap. Oh, Latos tomorrow. I think I’ll wet my pants. Good luck with that, guys. I’ll find something better to do.
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Aug 13, 2010 11:06 PM PDT reply actions
Rosenthal tweeted that he was going to SF for the game for Fox
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regional
8/14/2010 4:10 PM Chicago Cubs at St. Louis Cardinals FOX (720p)
8/14/2010 4:10 PM San Diego Padres at San Francisco Giants FOX (720p)
8/14/2010 4:10 PM Baltimore Orioles at Tampa Bay Rays FOX (720p)
It’s a day game tomorrow? FUCK.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 13, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’m going out all day to finish up the last of my college dorm shopping. I’ll probably carry my walkman around to listen to it, though.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 13, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Just as a random bit of advice for dorm shopping: get dish soap, a hand vac, microwavable tupperware, and duct tape. Trust me on this.
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Haha, I’ll put that on my list.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 13, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
All you need is shower sandles.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, those too. I didn’t have communal showers, but those are important. Cheap flipflops from Old Navy work too.
Also: shower caddies. And lots and lots of quarters. I mean, that’s not exactly shopping, but at the end of each semester everyone was scrounging for quarters for laundry and buses.
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I think you're a little behind :-)
It’s slide your card these days…at least according to what they say on the campus tours.
Go Sharks!
Oh, we had washing machines that took cards, but half of the washing machines were coin-only (and thus the only ones free), and half the time the card system was down, and so the only method was with coins. I didn’t think I needed quarters either, but I am so glad I brought some.
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I got most of that done today
I just need to get one more thing. I can’t believe I have orientation next week
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
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Yeah, I was busy most of the day today, so I had to put it off until tomorrow.
And, same. I also can’t believe I’m moving next week.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 13, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
It's crazy
and my sleep cycle is gonna be so messed up
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LOL, yeah. I’ve been staying up until 5 lately, so, that’s not a good thing.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 13, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think I fell asleep yesterday at 6:30
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College dorms, that brings back memories.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Man, my whole roommate thing didn’t really work out.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
NO ROOMMATE WHOO!
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 13, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Uh oh.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 13, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Awesome. No sexile, in that case.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 13, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Uh oh.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 13, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions