Pre-game comment starter: Mike Fontenot
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 12, 2010 9:42 AM PDT
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PrintNice little pickup. The Giants have right-handed bench complements for future years -- guys like Matt Downs and Ryan Rohlinger -- so the left-handedness of Fontenot works well on the bench now and for the future. Now for some stats. I could sure go for one of those 2008s right about now:
| Year | Age | Tm | Lg | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS | BB | SO | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS | OPS+ |
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| 2005 | 25 | CHC | NL | 7 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | .000 | .600 | .000 | .600 | 74 |
| 2007 | 27 | CHC | NL | 86 | 260 | 234 | 32 | 65 | 12 | 4 | 3 | 29 | 5 | 4 | 22 | 43 | .278 | .336 | .402 | .738 | 86 |
| 2008 | 28 | CHC | NL | 119 | 284 | 243 | 42 | 74 | 22 | 1 | 9 | 40 | 2 | 0 | 34 | 51 | .305 | .395 | .514 | .909 | 130 |
| 2009 | 29 | CHC | NL | 135 | 419 | 377 | 38 | 89 | 22 | 2 | 9 | 43 | 4 | 1 | 35 | 83 | .236 | .301 | .377 | .677 | 72 |
| 2010 | 30 | CHC | NL | 75 | 185 | 169 | 14 | 48 | 11 | 3 | 1 | 20 | 1 | 2 | 10 | 28 | .284 | .332 | .402 | .734 | 90 |
| 5 Seasons | 422 | 1153 | 1025 | 130 | 276 | 67 | 10 | 22 | 132 | 12 | 7 | 103 | 205 | .269 | .338 | .419 | .757 | 92 | |||
| 162 Game Avg. | 162 | 443 | 393 | 50 | 106 | 26 | 4 | 8 | 51 | 5 | 3 | 40 | 79 | .269 | .338 | .419 | .757 | 92 | |||
| Year | Age | Tm | Lg | Lev | Aff | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS | BB | SO | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2002 | 22 | Frederick | CARL | A+ | BAL | 122 | 547 | 481 | 61 | 127 | 16 | 4 | 8 | 53 | 13 | 9 | 42 | 117 | .264 | .333 | .364 | .697 |
| 2003 | 23 | Bowie | EL | AA | BAL | 126 | 515 | 449 | 63 | 146 | 24 | 5 | 12 | 66 | 16 | 5 | 50 | 89 | .325 | .399 | .481 | .880 |
| 2004 | 24 | Ottawa | IL | AAA | BAL | 136 | 590 | 524 | 73 | 146 | 30 | 10 | 8 | 49 | 14 | 7 | 48 | 111 | .279 | .346 | .420 | .766 |
| 2005 | 25 | Iowa | PCL | AAA | CHC | 111 | 449 | 379 | 60 | 103 | 22 | 10 | 6 | 39 | 3 | 2 | 59 | 77 | .272 | .377 | .430 | .807 |
| 2006 | 26 | Iowa | PCL | AAA | CHC | 111 | 418 | 362 | 54 | 107 | 28 | 2 | 8 | 36 | 5 | 4 | 47 | 64 | .296 | .375 | .450 | .825 |
| 2007 | 27 | Iowa | PCL | AAA | CHC | 55 | 231 | 211 | 46 | 71 | 17 | 4 | 6 | 34 | 3 | 1 | 16 | 32 | .336 | .384 | .540 | .925 |
| 6 Seasons | 661 | 2750 | 2406 | 357 | 700 | 137 | 35 | 48 | 277 | 54 | 28 | 262 | 490 | .291 | .366 | .437 | .803 | |||||
| AAA (4 seasons) | 413 | 1688 | 1476 | 233 | 427 | 97 | 26 | 28 | 158 | 25 | 14 | 170 | 284 | .289 | .367 | .447 | .814 | |||||
| AA (1 season) | 126 | 515 | 449 | 63 | 146 | 24 | 5 | 12 | 66 | 16 | 5 | 50 | 89 | .325 | .399 | .481 | .880 | |||||
| A+ (1 season) | 122 | 547 | 481 | 61 | 127 | 16 | 4 | 8 | 53 | 13 | 9 | 42 | 117 | .264 | .333 | .364 | .697 | |||||
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Fact: Guys who have had good years for the Iowa Cubs go on to have amazing years with the Giants.
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That was his last pre-Giants team, yes.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Better than the in-house options
Maybe better than Sanchez
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how is he at SS?
could he play every day next year? Apparently he’s under team control for 3 more years.
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I think he could play there in a pinch
But not everyday
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Like this thread...
I will take 2008 as well…2010 is more likely though…pretty all against RHPs…
Especially good pickup considering F. Sanchez hits LHP well but not RHPs…
MOAR 2008 PLZ.
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by lurkers UNTIE on Aug 12, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Used to be 3 AAA leagues – Pacific Coast League (west, obviously), International League (east, and Canada! Thus Int’l), and American Association (middle). AA folded and teams were absorbed by the PCL and IL, therefore there are teams that aren’t anywhere near the Pacific Coast.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I could go with another player playing like it's 2008.
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I'd like a bottle of the '08 Fontenot please
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You should like it
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Font's 2009 BABIP was crazy-low IIRC
I think a Freddy/Fontenot platoon would be cool.
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My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
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For those who want this platoon, I just want you to remember we should probably expect Sanchez to hit worse if platooned. Just won’t be getting enough regular PT….
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Freddy Sanchez
Has an .890 OPS against lefties this year.
A .565 against righties.
He will hit better than he is right now in a platoon.
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You really shouldn't take ytd splits that seriously
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I know people say this...
and it makes sense on paper…but I disagree…
We played 110+ games (2/3 of the season)…it’s not unfair to think that the trend thus far is indicative
No, it is the proper way to do it. 2/3 of the season is not even close to the sample size you need. Just because something is a “trend” does not mean it is predictive in any way, shape, or form. Because of sample error, and because of the given distribution in splits among players, you need A LOT of evidence to assume a player has a split that is different from the league average split.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Fair
But his career splits are pretty intense too.
Career OPS vs righties: .692
Career OPS vs lefties: .887
A Fontenot/Sanchez platoon absolutely outhits Sanchez or Fontenot, IMO.
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Yes, that is the point of a platoon, but that’s not how you use splits right to figure out what you should expect going forward. First step, assume the player has a normal platoon split. Next, look at a players career numbers. Entire career, including minors. Third, note sample size, if it’s something like 5-10+ years, then you can proceed on. If not, assume normal population split. If you can proceed on, then you take into account his platoon splits, regress towards league average a bit, and that’s what you assume his personal split is. Then you apply that adjustment to his true talent level. Then you adjust for limited PT. That’s the production you expect.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree with every sentence
Freddy’s career platoon splits are large, and even adjusting for limited PT, a platoon makes us better.
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138 wRC+ and 86 wRC+ in 825 and 2441 PA’s, respectively. You could be on to something.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
we should probably expect Sanchez to hit worse if platooned. Just won’t be getting enough regular PT
I still need someone to prove this to me.
owlcroft has something on it, IIRC
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Owlcroft asserts it a lot, let’s put it it that way.
It’s a very intriguing area for study, but I can’t imagine how you’d overcome the cause/effect problem. Players hitting well are going to get more playing time; players hitting poorly are going to lose time. It’s going to look like sparse playing time hurts your numbers even if that’s not actually the case.
Find a population that’s put into PT for other reasons – like an injury to someone else.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Of that population, the ones who do well in their first 50 at-bats will continue to play regularly; the others won’t.
Meh, with a little thought, I think you can get past that issue.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t see how, but maybe it can be done. I’d be curious to see the results. It seems logical that players (young players still finding their sea legs, at least) do better when they’re in the lineup every day, but how much better? The pinch-hitting penalty is about the same as the average player’s platoon differential, and I can’t imagine that the part-time penalty would be anywhere near as great as the pinch-hitting penalty.
Well maybe that’ll be my first article on BCB! ;)
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
How about this? Divide up a player’s plate appearances according to how many PAs he’s had in the previous two days. You’ll have one bucket for 0 PAs, another for 1 PA, a third for 2 PAs, and so forth. Then calculate his OBP (or OPS, or what have you) for each bucket.
Then, because two days may not be enough for the effect to manifest itself, do the whole thing over, but with the buckets representing how many PAs he’s had over the last week. Then again with the buckets representing how many PAs he’s had over the last month.
If owlcroft’s theory is correct, you’ll find that the more appearances he’s had, the higher his OBP is (with perhaps some tailing off at the far end of the scale, as the player gets worn out).
Kinda labor-intensive, I know.
I don’t think that could be prove. It would be more of a mental problem probably. Not saying I agree though.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 12, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think he can really play shortstop. In an emergency, probably. As a major league starter, no.
Jon’s pretty old to be expected to play short.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Dude, he’s a HOFer.
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I’m just saying at this point in his career he’s more of a fit at third.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Fangraphs on Pat
Nothing we don’t already know, but nice to see some attention:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-return-of-pat-the-bat/
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Meh, still not that high on Pat. wRC+ of 115 this season in total from a guy who plays bad corner OF? Unless someone can come up with a legitimate reason to discount his performance on the Rays and give extra credit to his performance on the Giants for me….
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
'Cause those game winning dingerz aren't really germane
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 12, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll just enjoy him for the rest of the season
But DNW as the starting LF for the Giants in 2011
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There is no legitimate reason (though you have to adjust his AL numbers upward a bit to translate to NL level). But there’s no one better, so the only thing to do is hope he keeps it up.
What are the thoughts on Schierholtz these days? I mean, his overall line is pretty bad, but he was doing decently until one day we decided we were just going to stop playing him, and surprise surprise, his stats have been consistently going down since….
The thought being, of course, that between having a lefty (Schierholtz) v RHP instead of Burrell, plus the difference in their defense, that maybe it’s the better option?
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
He had that shoulder injury that seems to have derailed him. Same thing last year. I’m not sure what to make of him. I like a lot of the things he brings, but I’m not sure he’s ever going to be able to hit.
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What I’ve never figured out is what happens to his power from AAA to MLB?
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
He goes from a massive hitter’s league to a home park that is tough on left handed power?
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This could probably be said about a lot of guys. His lack of power doesn’t bother me that much. What’s weirder to me is that he was seeing a lot of pitches earlier in the season and now, it seems like he’s not (tbh, I haven’t looked at the numbers lately and I don’t know what they’d tell me in such a SSS).
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And that’s why we have MLE’s and park adjustments. Even after those adjustments, he looks like a solid to good power guy. Then he shows up at AT&T with Bocockian power.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
What do you mean by “accurate”? They’re “accurate” in that it’s the average of exactly what happens, but yes, it does have variability. From what I’ve seen suggested by people who work on this stuff, minor league numbers are as meaningful as major league numbers…..
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
so given that it’s the average of exactly what happens, it has HUGE variability, no?
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Not necessarily. I don’t know enough about it’s variability to go too in depth into this, but I really don’t think it’s much, if any, larger than MLB numbers variability.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Not quite, because younger players are more variable. And the sample size isn’t very big. Nate’s entire AAA career is not much more than one full ML season.
Hmmm, this response seems specific to Nate while my comment that you’re responding to wasn’t….
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I mean that (a) MLE-based projections aren’t as accurate as ML-based projections, (b) ML-based projections are variable enough as it is, and © Nate hasn’t played enough at either level for us (or the projection formula) to have an accurate sense of where his true talent level lies.
I think C is your best point, but I’m honestly not sure that a holds true, once you control for age/lack of sample size guys tend to have coming out of the minors.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Ah yes, I kinda glossed over that, but it is true, especially since one year of baseball hitting stats alone is subject to quite a bit of variability.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I feel like even if his MLEs and ZiPS projections specifically adjust for AT&T (I think ZiPS does, but I’m not sure about MLEs), it’s possible that the nature of his power is such that it just doesn’t fit in the ballpark at all. I mean, it’s been SSS almost his whole career, but while I could see him putting up a .400-415 SLG with regular playing time, I have a hard time believing that he could slug .450+ in the majors, like his MLEs and projections seem to suggest he could. I don’t know if that’s all ballpark or if his power just doesn’t translate to the majors period. It wouldn’t be the first time that happened.
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Yeah I just have a hard time thinking it’s all ballpark for a few reasons – first, he still plays half his games away and still has no power, and second, with his speed, you’d think he’d get gappers that would at least make up for some lost HR’s. But man, career .128 iso? That’s weak. And the thing with Schierholtz is he needs to hit for power to be valuable, since he’s not going to give you a good OBP.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
They actually look pretty in line with what his MLE’s suggest to me.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
(Point being that you’d expect it to be more if AT&T was giving him a boost)
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Awful lot seems like an exaggeration
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721 plate appearances
42 doubles
8 triples
That’s not a lot? Take a look at how many the league leaders hit every year.
I guess. For whatever reason, the fact that the 721 PA came in 275 games is giving me pause, though maybe it shouldn’t.
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Why would that give you pause? By owlcroftian theory, we should pro-rate his numbers upward, since he has never been given the playing time to get a groove going.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 12, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
ok well i didn't see that
but obviously he doesn’t believe “older players never get hurt” just that people tend to over react when old players suffer injuries.
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I believe he has actually said that old player’s don’t get hurt more often than young players. Seems implausible, but I don’t know if it’s wrong.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
No, he didn't.
He said that that was a possibility. The closest actual quotation I can locate is from May 11:
There seems still to be a very great deal of confusion in the media as to just exactly what is and isn’t wrong with the wrist, and the extent to which whatever there is does or doesn’t affect performance physically (we can see that it does mentally).
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At this early, pre-fact stage, the impression I am getting is that Bochy is underselling and DeRosa overselling, but let’s wait to see what the real physicians have to say (assuming we ever hear).
The day prior, I had said:
But what is the evidence? DeRosa is not doing himself any favors with his public soul-searching, but I don’t recall that he has actually said "Yes, my wrist hurts bad, and is keeping me from hitting right." It seems to be more a case of "Gee, I’m afraid that maybe my bad memories may be affecting my swing."
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And isn’t the answering of questions like that the reason God created doctors?
That was how it was: DeRosa was not then claiming pain, and I said it could be a mental issue, but let’s see what the doctors say.
But that’s less sensational than “It’s all in his head!”
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I dunno. I guess there’s no way to prove it, but it seems like most of Nate’s doubles are of the line drive down the line or in the gaps variety, rather than the long fly balls to the wall.
Though I’m not sure if you were trying to say that his high double/triples numbers in the majors should translate to better HR numbers or not.
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I was responding to Missing Barry’s argument that you’d expect the park to take away some of his homers but give him back some gappers. I agree with the theory, and I think the evidence bears it out.
But I pointed out that his MLE’s seem to be in line with what he’s done from a doubles/triples perspective, and I don’t think MLE’s have component park adjustments….
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I kind of hate pro-rating numbers
It’s lazy analysis
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By pro-rating, you mean extrapolating, correct?
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Well, I misused the term. I just meant “adjust upward.” And I don’t really endorse it.
I think pro-rating’s a handy tool, but as with every sort of projection, people occasionally forget that it hasn’t actually happened.
I see, that makes sense
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Agreed, I only use it to give me context on how good a guy’s been. I know how good 30 HR’s are by the end of the season, but I have no idea how good 18 are sometime in June, you know, so prorating it does at least give me a feel for how good he’s been so far. In terms of what to expect going forward, it’s lazy, though.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I think that is so.
My feeling, based on research, is that if a man isn’t playing at least half time, and preferably 2/3 time, he cannot perform at his maximum ability (or, in most cases, close to it). When Schierholtz started the season, he was producing at a rate not sensational but quite adequate (including a power factor around his career level of 1.5, which also is not sensational but is adequate—his only “no-power” season was his first, his brief 2007). Since the shoulder injury, he has had only intermittant use; worse, it is the kind of intermittant that has bad effects, the “get a big hit now or you sit for another week” type that badly taints a man’s normal plate approach.
I’d say that lacking any better standard, we should take Schierholtz’s 2010 performance when he was playing steadily as most indicative of his probable level, with the understanding that we need more data (I’d guess he might be a little better, but that’s only an intuition).
Schierholtz had never taken walks, but every season it was less terrible, including early 2010; but now, in his rare and singular appearances, he looks like a total hacker—presumably trying to do too much. I still wish he could get some extended healthy play time (it’s by no means clear that the shoulder is 100% yet).
(Of course, the injury may be nonexistent, if one believes the theory that getting hurt only happens to older players.)
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And with Schierholtz, even when things have gone well for him, it’s not like he hits a ton of long fly balls or something. I don’t know, I don’t think it’s that bizarre to think that his swing works for power in the minors but not the majors. His bat has always looked a bit slow/loopy to me.
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ZiPS Projections and my MLE (which I generally call zMLE to keep them straight from other ones) do adjust for home park/league of the player in question.
by D.Szymborski on Aug 13, 2010 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for the info, though I’m…..shocked that you somehow found that comment in the middle of a huge McC thread to respond to!
by Missing Barry on Aug 13, 2010 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe he only has "slider-speed" in his bat?
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He never really had much power. Plus he swings at anything.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
So did a lot of other players whose power never translated to the majors.
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And there are also people who hit for more power than expected. It happens. I still find it bizarre just how little power Nate has at the MLB level.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
well he hurt his shoulder, then forgot how to hit. I feel like he’s had enough opportunities since then, but looks completely lost (not looking at numbers, but I’d guess they back up this point)
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I feel like he’s had enough opportunities since then
Well, if they think something’s up with his shoulder and he’s not the same hitter, that’s fine – that’s somewhere scouting information and such can be useful. If we’re just looking at statistics, though, no, he has not had enough opportunities since then. 23 PA’s in June, 55 in July, 7 in August is “Giants management that wans to bury its young players” enough, but not actually enough statistically to really say much.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
fair enough – I thought he had had more PAs since then. Anyway, I think it’s clear Burrell is doing better than Nate possibly could (even at his best) or am I missing something?
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
am I missing something
Defense? Even against RHP, I would expect Burrell to outhit Nate, the question is – can he do it by enough to make up for the huge difference in D?
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Of course Burrell has an .824 OPS against RHP this year.
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Yeah but who cares about his RH split this year?
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, he’s a 120 wRC+ hitter for his career. 119 v 137 wRC+ RHP, LHP for his career. Pretty normal splits.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I like Nate but he looks... off, I guess
Maybe it’s the shoulder, maybe it’s the lack of consistent playing time, maybe another reason, I don’t know…
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Conditioning.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
It keeps the hair silky and smooth.
I’m not some Nerd-fuck who’s measuring REAL accomplishments against hypothetical BULLSHIT modeling and mythical probability graphs.
Shampoo alone just isn’t enough nowadays.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Fuck that 2 in 1 bullshit too. It’s for cretins.
I’m not some Nerd-fuck who’s measuring REAL accomplishments against hypothetical BULLSHIT modeling and mythical probability graphs.
Whatttt?
That’s all I use :-(
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
UR DOIN IT WRONG THEN!
I’m not some Nerd-fuck who’s measuring REAL accomplishments against hypothetical BULLSHIT modeling and mythical probability graphs.
I like doing it all at once
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I actually don’t shampoo more than once every couple of weeks… it’s a scam. Thorough rinse and scrub with hot water daily is fine. The reason you need conditioner is because the shampoo is damaging your hair.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
If I don’t shampoo every day, the oil in my hair makes my scalp hurt.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
YOUVE BEEN BRAINWASHED BY ADVERTISING. IF YOU WOULD JUST SMOKE MORE DOPE YOU WOULD SEE THE TRUTH, SHEEPLE.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
But seriously, the stuff in shampoo tends to be no good for human beings. Plus, your hair is meant to have oil in it.. humans evolved that way. Although I keep my hair short so maybe my experience isn’t representative.
Have you ever tried just scrubbing like you were shampooing, but not using any shampoo? It will be your best hair day.
Don’t make me link to some crackpot No’Poo website…
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with you. I have longer hair as well. I often scrub with hot water and no shampoo. I only shampoo every several days, and occasionally I use a milder cleanser (like some facial cleanser I have) instead of shampoo.
I also use a fair amount of hair product, so there’s washing that out too.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Cut me some slack! I just stopped using fluoridated toothpaste. I can’t give up shampoo in the same month.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
One step at a time.
Good job!
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
What’s wrong with fluoridated toothpaste?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I believe that fluoride only works when ingested, but I’m not sure what the negatives of fluoridated toothpaste – other than uselessness – are.
I’ll have to check this out.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently fluoride also works by contact. Hmmm… apparently there are crackpots worried about the toxicity of fluoride. They probably are against vaccines too.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’ve heard the crackpot arguments. I’m not particularly convinced.
For me, I just don’t really think I need it in my toothpaste. It’s already in my drinking water and I use that WAY more often.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Having oily hair makes you look like a bum that doesn’t shower….
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Not one person has mentioned oily hair to me in the six months I haven’t been shampooing. You have been taken in by advertising.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Your hair is not as oily as mine. If I go two days without dealing with it, I can style my hair with the oil that’s accumulated. And I’m not kidding.
I have really oily hair. Or, a really oily scalp. Or something.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I would say I have reasonably oily hair and skin… I take after the swarthy side of the family. But your mileage may vary, so knock yourself out.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I could probably deal with it in ways that don’t involve shampoo every day, but it’s definitely a lot of oil.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I should collect it and save money at the supermarket.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Freecycling!
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Whether I’ve been taken in by advertising doesn’t seem particularly relevant. The point is it does look different when you don’t use shampoo, in a “didn’t shower” sort of way (since you’re not using shampoo when you dont’ shower), which is not the image I’m trying to convey….
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
No, the point is you don’t really look that different if you shower and don’t use shampoo. It isn’t a daily necessity (the shampoo, not the shower). The belief that it is necessary on a daily basis is false.
Try shampooing only every other day and see if it really makes a difference (note to Howie: this is not medical advice. Do not try this at home if your head will hurt).
It’s like thinking bananas can’t be stored in the fridge – that belief is the result of marketing and not food science. It’s ubiquitous and false – the result of a line in a jingle in the 50’s.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would you store bananas in the fridge?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
So they don’t go mushy.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
But that would also make them cold. I do not like this.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
For you, it would mean leaving it out for a while prior to eating, admittedly.
And in the interest of full disclosure, the skin turns black in the fridge but the fruit stays firm.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 13, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I look like a bum when I wash my hair, my hair is best a couple of days after.
by Svedish Chef on Aug 13, 2010 3:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t shampoo every day, but yeah, eventually I have to shampoo out the oil.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I have roughly a 30-hour time limit between shampooing and “fuck my head hurts”.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I vote for both with Huff at 1B and Ishi on the bench
Thing A
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Yeah, I’d prefer this as well.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
why? Ishi is still hitting well…why give ABs to someone who is an unknown at this point, and what we do know about him isn’t that exciting.
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Because Aubrey Huff in RF seems like a disaster waiting to happen.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I also don’t believe in Ishi yet. I don’t know why, and it’s probably not fair, but I just don’t think he’s much of a hitter, really.
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I don't either
but I’m almost certain he’ll be better than Nate, and I don’t think the defensive upgrade will be enough to account for the difference in offensive production.
And there’s no way I’d take out Burrell to play BOTH Nate and Ish. I think that’d quickly send our offense back to 2009 levels.
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That’s why I said that I’m probably not being fair. It just seems like he was hitting well as a pinch hitter, and the more playing time he gets, the worse he looks at the plate.
Again, I’m totally going by my own eyes, which I know is MAJOR FAIL.
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When you say not much of a hitter, what do you mean, exactly? I don’t think there’s any argument he’s anything worse than an average hitter, but I don’t know if “average” qualifies as “not much of a hitter” for you, given that he’s a 1B….
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Really? Dude has a 93 career OPS+ with a .340 BABIP. I think that’s a pretty good argument he’s worse than an average hitter.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
And, I guess my thought is that I haven’t seen anything this season that makes me think he’s improved significantly, despite the fact that he’s had some success of late.
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Even with his improvement this year, he’s still not a good hitter for a 1B
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
that’s completely true, but he’s not a black hole of suck either.
Does it seem as if every single pitch sequence goes like this?
1) fastball away, either fouled away or taken for a strike
2) slider/curve low/inside, pulled foul or swing and miss
3) try to recover from 0-2
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I mean black hole of suck like previous years at 1B for the team
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Of course an average hitter isn’t good for a 1B, but is it really relevant how he compares to other 1B’s at the moment?
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Which would be below average, yes.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I’d call it average, especially since he’s doing better this year and has a pretty average Zips.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe, and I am just using my eyes, not stats – but he looks good out there to me.
Burrell looks significantly worse in left than huff in right – but not enough to really worry me there either.
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Every number we have at the moment is worthless, but in SSS, Burrell has been average-ish out there and Huff has been awful.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
224 innings
He’s actually been above average in the OF overall (STILL extreme SSS)
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
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It’s having both of them out there at the same time that makes me nervous.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Torres helps a lot
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--Daisy Owl
He does, but it still leaves me feeling bad about anything hit down either line.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate the idea of both Huff/Burrell in the OF. I can live with one at a time.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Same.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I see I’m a latecomer for this line.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
if we're gonna do that though
might as well play Rowand.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
it’s scary
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
I’m confused – Ishi on the bench when? I’ll point out that Ishi/Huff is a better defensive combo than Burrell/Huff, and that Ishi has hit pretty close to equal what Burrell has done this year….
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Burrell LF Huff RF Ishikawa 1B is a better defensive combo than Burrell LF Schierholtz RF Huff 1B?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Well, I prefaced my statement saying “I’m confused”, and then I only talked about 2 players at a time, so now I’m also confused by why you’re bringing a third player in?
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t get why you would only talk about two players at a time when the question clearly involves three positions (RF/LF/1B). Unless you’re just assuming that you’re never going to bench Ishikawa, which I’m not sure why you’d do that.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
when the question clearly involves three positions (RF/LF/1B)
I’m confused
Clearly it wasn’t “clear” to me?
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, at this point, I’m not even sure what the scenarios you’re arguing for are.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I wasn’t really arguing for any scenario’s, just confused and saying that Huff at 1B and Burrel at LF < Huff LF Ishikawa 1B defensively.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think you have to discount his performance on the Rays, but Burrell has just been a very useful player for the Giants so far. I don’t want them to re-sign him or anything, but for 2010, he’s been a godsend.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
i’d be all for re-signing him. Why not? Not necessarily as a starting OF, but he’s not that old, can definitely contribute, and I think it’s clear we don’t have anyone better.
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Burrell has just been a very useful player for the Giants so far
And that’s the key phrase. Our decision making is based on what will happen in the future, the past is of no consequence other than what it tells us about the future….
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
OK
Even with the Tampa numbers dragging it down, ZiPS projects him for a .345 wOBA the rest of the way and Schierholtz for .330
That said, I continue to be fairly skeptical that Schierholtz is capable of that kind of production.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
So then my question is, against RHP, who is more valuable taking into account defense?
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
is there enough of a difference to risk giving ABs to guy who has basically never hit MLB pitching?
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
Yeah, honestly, his career line at the moment (.272/.315/.400) looks more or less like the kind of hitter Nate is. If you are going to bench Burrell for Schierholtz, it seems like you’d have to assume that he’s going to hit for a SLG more in-line with his projections (.440+) and I’d have a hard time taking that leap of faith at this point.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
85 wRC+. Burrell’s at 115 wRC+ for the year. So….adjusting Schierholtz up and Burrell down (since we’re talking RHP)….is that as big as the difference in D? I think I’m in the “I dont know” camp right now, too. You know what I’d like to see out of Fangraphs? An article that details how many runs 5, 10, 20, etc. wRC+ is worth over a full season of PA’s.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
well
going off of Huff’s numbers, 30 wRC+ appears to be worth about 30 runs over a full season. Convenient. (04 – 667 PA, 124 wRC+, 102.4 wRC vs. 05 – 636 PA, 94 wRC+, 70.5 wRC)
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I'm in this line of thought
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
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by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 12, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
quick follow up
Schierholtz hasn’t really gotten enough of a chance, I just don’t think he’s the kind of can’t miss hitter that you actually mourn if he doesn’t get an opportunity.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
I liked Bowker well enough (LHH who can hit it out of AT&T out to be given a number of chances), but I still think it would have been remarkable if his change in approach in the minors translated into anything in the majors. I can’t really think of any player who has that kind of arc to their career.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
agh. ought to be given many chances
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
I still think it would have been remarkable if his change in approach in the minors translated into anything in the majors
I don’t understand this logic at all? If a guy learns new skills/new approach, why wouldn’t you expect him to carry it over? I mean, I can see saying it won’t carry over to the same degree, but not at all? That makes no sense to me.
I can’t really think of any player who has that kind of arc to their career.
What do you mean? I’d bet there are plenty of AAAA guys that then succeeded when finally given their chance that fit this mold, and I bet there are a bunch of prospects who fit this mold, too, after an underwhelming first go-round in MLB?
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I think his point was that
There aren’t a lot of guys who play pretty consisently in AAA, and then all of sudden one year have a monster where they’ve “figured something out”, and then carry that success to the majors.
My Son, the best outfielder in the National League.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Don’t most of those guys fit under the developing more power as they get older rubric? Most of the guys who start with a shitty K:BB ratio keep it.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
I think so, though I will point out a nice thing abuot K/BB is how quickly they become meaningful.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
and that’s because of it’s very low season to season variance.
I haven’t done any research on this or anything, I just don’t remember anyone suddenly acquiring pitch recognition at 25. If you can find them to point to me, go for it.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
Pitch recognition and the decision to swing at said pitch are not exactly the same thing.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Off the top of my head? I don’t really have anything. It probably is pretty rare. But because of the low variance, once it happens, it doesn’t take that long to conclude there’s a real change.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the evidence strongly agrees with this point. He’s no Fred Lewis. ;)
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I refuse to believe there is a young player on the Giants who is not getting a chance.
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I'd offer him a contract like Huff is on right now
If he wants to come back.
My Son, the best outfielder in the National League.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Don’t jinx it! Just cross your fingers.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 12, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
could stand to see that 410 bump up a bit
but the doubles are encouraging. still a lot of grounders and bloops.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Isn't that more in line with his norm though?
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Well, the power needs to come from somewhere
Options for the future probably don’t include much in the way of Huff, Burrell, and Uribe.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Still hasn’t hit a homerun in almost two months…
by Monkeyking42 on Aug 12, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
His auto-double last night would have been gone in every other yard.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 12, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably not Petco
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It one-hopped the 420 marker. It may have been out of Petco.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 12, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Isn't there a way to use hitter f/x to tell?
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Also – he’s not a classic home run hitter. It’s the fact that he’s hitting line drives again that makes me tentatively hopeful.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t give Grant any ideas.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Aug 12, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Wait it out. We’ll see. There’s no reason to think it’s real yet.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
New Huffblog!
My Son, the best outfielder in the National League.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
even the title is amazing
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Ha
What did you major in at the University of Miami?
Like everybody else, I majored in business management. I’d say baseball but that wouldn’t look good.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
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Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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ha
How did you come to pick "Stayin’ Alive’’ for the song when you come to bat?
When we were in Atlanta, the song came on the play list in the clubhouse. Barry Zito knows I like the Bee-Gees. He said, "Huffy, this should be your song.‘’ I said, "I do love this song.’’ He said, "Just think of walking to the plate to this song in San Francisco.’’ I was sold.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
"Huffy" ?
You’d think that “Aubrey” would be good enough for Bochy
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
LOL!
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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 12, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
QFT
been there and done that
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I’ve never understood why people seem to like Huff so much? Sure, he’s having a great year, but what about him makes everyone think he’s such a likable personality…?
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
wut
"Bengie Molina - the quintessential double play possibility." - Jon MIller
by calpolynate on Aug 12, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Listen to him on the radio
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- Republik of Mancunia
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Aug 12, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
He's the telephone pole
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
This is a weird question.
Adopted Giant: Ryan Rohlinger (on loan from Shanghaijim).
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
what about him is not likeable? Everything I’ve seen him do, even if he wasn’t hitting, makes him seem inherently likeable. Fun, happy to be here, excited by every play. Best.facialexpressions.ever.
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I love how excited he gets about the pitching staff every time someone asks him about it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Him and Burrell both have added more craziness in the clubhouse
Looks like a fun bench now, they’re always doin something instead of sitting there through 9 innings
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Well, there’s the video of him on Howard Stern I think it was, there’s the whole the entire city of Baltimore hating the guy, there are some quotes in his past that make him seem unprofessional about his craft…..
And on the other hand, there’s……what, exactly?
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Baltimore hates him? Why?
Elaborate please…
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
He called it a “horseshit” town in an interview. He later said that he only meant that the nightlife was horseshit.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Never been to Baltimore – although I have seen The Wire.
Looks like a horseshit town to me!
Kansas City probably hates Ichiro too – is he a bad guy?
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I think you’re thinking of Cleveland where Ichiro would rather punch himself in the face than play there
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Aug 12, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Awesome, my love for Ichiro grows!
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Aug 12, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, Ichiro is the most awesomest player in MLB by far. Seriously.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
One of my dads Japanese students made us a tape Of Ichiro in Japan, it had interviews (which my dad translated for me) dude is amazing!
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Aug 12, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Chicks who dig home runs aren’t the ones who appeal to me. I think there’s sexiness in infield hits because they require technique. I’d rather impress the chicks with my technique than with my brute strength. Then, every now and then, just to show I can do that, too, I might flirt a little by hitting one out.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
See, that’s exactly 1 more quote than I’ve gotten from Aubrey! And an awesome one at that.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I must’ve missed the part in the registration agreement where we owe you shit.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Aug 12, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh come on, I’ve already said the following!:
That’s fine, you’re under no obligation to participate in my thread.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but making passive-aggressive comments calling people out for not participating in your thread is a bit dickish, no?
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Aug 12, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
“Yes.”
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Aug 12, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I find it curious that you entered the conversation just to make the points that you have….
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
There really was no nightlife there compared to what's up in San Francisco
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
What about Boston's nightlife
And the after-party that get’s crackin in the streets: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FpCe3O2DPU
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
The nightlife sucks, anyway.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
One of my friends lived in DC for a few years, and when I told him about Huff’s quote, he agreed.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Aug 12, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
yep, I lived in DC for a couple years too and Baltimore pretty much sucks. Camden is nice though.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
I mean, I do live in Philadelphia, I’ve been to Baltimore before. If you asked me about New Jersey, even if I was a famous figure that played for a team there, I’d tell you how much it sucks. It did seem odd to me to have that strong of feelings about Baltimore, though. The Inner Harbor is nice, there are some fun things to do. Of course it’s not SF, but it’s not like it’s NJ or anything….
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
When the Giants played the Orioles this season
I was checking out the Camden Chat. Everyone there seemed to like him and wished him well on his success here.
Internet =/= real life I know, but still I do not think Baltimore hates him.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Yeah I don’t actually know how they feel about him, I was just referencing that incident. ;)
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Everything people have already said in this thread to you? His radio interviews on KNBR, his quotes in game stories by Baggs and Schulman, the fact that everyone on the team loves him, his blog, his demeanor during games, etc etc.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I’ve seen him interact with fans in a hilarious way, too. He seems pretty nice, even though I would have earlier pegged him as a douche.
Adopted Giant: Ryan Rohlinger (on loan from Shanghaijim).
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
I still think he’s kind of douche-y but in a likable and funny way.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
/discretely gestures toward Brian Wilson
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Wilson has totally grown on me, though it probably helps that he’s been pretty lights out this season.
Adopted Giant: Ryan Rohlinger (on loan from Shanghaijim).
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Oh my god his interview with Rome...
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
That only helped me like him more
i just like the way he carries himself and that he’s such a bad ass, in a cocky way, needed that on the giants
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I kind of fell in love with him a little bit watching him do karaoke at the Strikeouts for Troops thing.
Adopted Giant: Ryan Rohlinger (on loan from Shanghaijim).
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
That’s pretty awesome… i just don’t have the time to go to those things, moreso the fact i’m not around
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
It’s hard not to like a player with 72 Ks in 50.1 IP.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
stats aside
even after his blown saves last year
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Ugh, I’m not much of a Wilson the person fan at all. I do like Wilson one of the best closers in the league, though.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m not gonna lie, I’ve only been able to stand Wilson the person this year. He’s a totally different kind of douchey than Huff but its pretty amazing how much more I like both those guys now than I did in April.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Honestly, Wilson does annoy me, but I can totally live with it.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
But, I thought he’d be more standoffish. For example, I would never have called him to write a blog and take questions from readers (though that may be more a product of laziness than anything else).
Adopted Giant: Ryan Rohlinger (on loan from Shanghaijim).
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
See, “radio interviews on KNBR” doesn’t mean anything to me. I was really just asking for specifics.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, let me just go through the archives of KNBR.com and give you a transcript for every radio interview he’s done this year.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
You can’t point me to any of the funny quotes he’s said or game stories by Baggs/Schulman or anything?
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s not that I can’t, I just don’t particularly want to take the time to do so.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
That’s fine, you’re under no obligation to participate in my thread.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, it’s just irritating to be asked, “PROVE THAT AUBREY HUFF IS LIKABLE TO ME!” when it’s been a recurring theme all season long, starting all the way back with the inside the park HR in April. His presence on the team, both at the plate and in the clubhouse, has been one of the dominant storylines of the season. To say “PROVE IT TO ME” is like, well, where have you been all season?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I think you’ve read my comments much differently than they were intended. It was never a “prove it to me” comment – more something along the lines of:
“I usually avoid front page threads, the couple I’ve been in I’ve picked up that you guys apparently like Huff, so I’m curious why?”
…
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
IM GONNA TAKE MY THREAD AND GO HOME
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I get the feeling you really enjoy being contrarian. I don’t know what you’ve seen from huff this year that would lead you to believe that he’s not likeable. IMO – he’s one of the most likeable players we’ve had in a long time.
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
No, we must demonstrate, with documentary evidence why so many people seem to think Huff is great.
Missing Barry can just sit back and collect the information until he’s satisfied with our answer.
Adopted Giant: Ryan Rohlinger (on loan from Shanghaijim).
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Well I said I live out of the market. I don’t really read Baggs/Schulman’s interviews and don’t get KNBR. So….I was legitimate asking it because I’m curious – obviously you all like him, and everything I’d ever heard about him from before he showed up didn’t paint him in a positive light (and I gave you some of the examples I’m talking about)….so I’m legitimately asking – what’s the deal?
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Well try to check out stories about him. He seems like a seriously fun goofball
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I like him
because he seems “real” and he hustles…last nights game…he almost ran down Sanchez
I also like this quote:
“I play it as hard as I can,‘’ he said, "and then I leave it on the field. Nine years of losing, and now I’m playing it for something.’’
have you watched the games? You don’t even need to read stories about him to realize he’s a fun guy in-game.
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
You can listen to anything but the games on KNBR online. There are also archives of their shows. Go browse and see what you find.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Aug 12, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
He says things that are funny and seems to be an active presence in the clubhouse?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
or the transformers tatoos
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
This is random, but I feel like he’d be a good hit on the Mythbusters’ build team. Oh, the hijinks he and Tory would get up to.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Aug 12, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
He's a character
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
LOL THIS POST!
“Here are some starts, nerbs. Chew on these while I get back to work.”
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 12, 2010 10:17 AM PDT reply actions
Stats too!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 12, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Lunch thread:
What’s for lunch today?
Stats.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Fish and rice probably
With some romaine lettuce
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
That's a good questioin
I have no idea… some fish my mom got from the Korean market
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
FISH ALARM!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ehipTG-ngU
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
That sounds yummy.
Adopted Giant: Ryan Rohlinger (on loan from Shanghaijim).
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Cookies for you? ;-)
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
No, I will eat some protein and veggies and whole grains. :)
Adopted Giant: Ryan Rohlinger (on loan from Shanghaijim).
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Like chicken with rice and leafy greens?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Salami and fontiago cheese on Watsonville Sourdough with a bit of pesto.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Aug 12, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Cha Cha Chicken in Santa Monica!
Best carribean food. ever.
…outside the carribean, i imagine.
GAHHHH ROWAND LEADING OFF
San Francisco Giants
Today’s Starting 9: Rowand CF, Sanchez 2B, Huff RF, Posey C, Burrell LF, Sandoval 3B, Uribe SS, Ishikawa 1B, Cain RHP #SFGiants
Wait, what???????
Rowand leading off? Is Bochy trying to get him going or something?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
LOL FONTENOT
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
LOL
WELL WHO ELSE COULD DO IT?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Torres needs a day off, I guess
He was all over the place last night.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 12, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
TWSS!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 12, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
He earned the top spot back!
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Aug 12, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
This is fucking stupid
Why the fuck isn’t Fontenot playing against a RHP?
Why are Ishikawa and Rowand in the lineup at the same time?
FUCK THIS LINEUP.
My Son, the best outfielder in the National League.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
This
also seems like the kind of game where we should rest Posey, what with the Padres series starting tomorrow
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
no Posey should get the day off
unless he’s playing 1b tomorrow.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
what if he feels just fine and doesn’t need it?
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Rest him anyway. It’s a long season.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
hes hella young and not fat
this isnt bengie molina were talking about here
MATT CAIN
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
It may be he doesn’t play much until the Giants aren’t playing the Cubs anymore.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
FONTELOL
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
that's what she said
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
We had this discussion a lot last night!
Grant got mad at first, but I’m not sure why – now he can truly pretend that he achieved his childhood dream of playing for the Giants! What’s not to love?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Well, I don’t know if he’s a mini or not. I assume Grant is taller than 5’8".
I hadn’t seen that discussion though! That’s funny that I came up with that unprovoked.
Ask me about my blog.
You missed Grant picspamming himself and waxing poetic about how beautiful he is.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I bet he thinks this post is about him
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 12, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
And have you seen that ass?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Bouncing watermelon! Or something.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Aug 12, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
oh yeah!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Wait Grant got mad? I thought he started it?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
He was mad about it at first. Then his wife commented on the resemblance without being prompted and he was okay with it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
/whip crack
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
rowand and sanchez 1-2 vs a right hander?
FAIL LINEUP
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Aug 12, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
you know
i was starting to think that bochy had learned to make somewhat decent lineups that utilized our strengths…..and then he pulls this shit
Bochy knows nothing, learns nothing and has NOTHING in his big, ugly melon head except for stale air.
Fuck that motherfucking piece of shit.
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 12, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Because Bochy is such a BRILLIANT field manager!!
Your cause and effect logic is of the pretzel variety.
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 12, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm also worried about burning out Posey
Day game after a night game?
Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!
by Giantsfan4life on Aug 12, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I would still like to see a lineup like:
Torres
Posey
Huff
Burrell
Sandoval
Uribe
Ishikawa/Rowand
Sanchez/Fontenot
P
That’s gotta be our strongest lineup, at least 1 – 6. Right?
by GrooveGiant on Aug 12, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm in this line.
My Son, the best outfielder in the National League.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
That's not a bad lineup
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
BusterfuckingP
We put Rowand in leadoff today to get his strikeouts out of the way first. #THISSTUFFPRETTYMUCHWRITESITSELFSOMETIMES #LOLSCOTTROWNADS
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Relax on Fonte-not in the lineup
the Cubs are still in town and he’s a bit close to their clubhouse. I can see keeping him out of the lineup until the cubs leave then playing him normally just for his own psyche. He needs to mesh with our team playing our rivals, not feel weird batting against a guy he shared a room with 2 days ago.
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by Giant Voodoo on Aug 12, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I have a sneaking suspicion
That in every game in which he plays 2B, Fontenot will hit second.
2B must hit second.
My Son, the best outfielder in the National League.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
well
the 2 is right there in the position
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Wait Torres gets the day off but Sandoval fucking plays?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Torres has tight legs
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
BTW: Is it a consensus that Blake DeWitt is evil?
You can take the player out of the Bums but you can’t take the Bums out of a player
Busted!
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 12, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
yep
/Werth
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by Giant Voodoo on Aug 12, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Blake DeWitt is a turd.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s not even a solid turd. He’s more like butt pee.
I’m not some Nerd-fuck who’s measuring REAL accomplishments against hypothetical BULLSHIT modeling and mythical probability graphs.
:P
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Chipper out for the season?
Ouch.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Probably
I liked what Neyer wrote about it. Torn ACL for 40 year old.
First ballot HOFer, right?
Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!
by Giantsfan4life on Aug 12, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
i’d say so.
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Aug 12, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
(Though obviously Jeter has some years left)
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, sportswriters will definitely favor Jeter. They shouldn’t (at least not yet), but they will.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I think you underrate Jeter. He’s currently at 70.2 WAR per bb-ref, which puts him in the discussion for a top 5 SS of all time.
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Actually, I was going through Rally’s WAR list just yesterday to look at where Jeter stood. That’s when I noticed Chipper ahead of him. I think you underrate Chipper.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I haven’t said a word about Chipper. I think he’s a first ballot HoFer too.
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Well you’re accusing me of underrating Jeter when I only compared Jeter and Chipper! :(
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
You’re right, I guess I read the thread as yet another “LOL JETER ISN’T AS GOOD AS THE MSM SAYS HE IS!” when, well, yeah, maybe not, but he’s still a great player.
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I feel like we’ve been having many misunderstandings in this thread. Maybe we should talk it out, talk about our feelings!
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Cheer up! A few of us still don’t hate you, Missing Barry!
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So you don’t not hate MissingBarry?
I’m not some Nerd-fuck who’s measuring REAL accomplishments against hypothetical BULLSHIT modeling and mythical probability graphs.
I still think the Yankees should have moved Jeter to center field once Bernie got old. I think he would have been quite good at it, and his WAR would be a lot higher.
This. I even think Jeter might have been a good fit at 3B. Good hands, good arm, and I’m not sure his range would have been nearly the same problem.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Plus if I remember right, one of Jeter’s issues at SS was positioning – something he’s improved on.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Though, it’s clear that A-Rod was declining defensively, and probably wouldn’t have been very good at SS, either.
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by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Chipper has had a pretty great career man.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it’s actually probably reasonably close. I just think the backlash against the media’s Jeter-worship has gone a bit far. Even allowing for his crappy defense, Jeter really is one of the best shortstops ever.
He would have been better at another position, but yeah.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
He's a great player and will be a 1st ballot HOFers
Just have that stupid flip throw he made against the A’s burned into my brain
If he’s a hall of famer, vote for him on whatever fucking ballot he’s on.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
this makes no sense to me.
either a guy is HoF caliber or he isn’t. “Well, he deserves to be in, but we’re gonna make him wait a while just because” is stupid.
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then again
so is the whole HoF voting process (and the voters, for that matter)
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Same reasoning as why no players have received 100% of the votes
Tom Seaver 1992 430 425 98.84%
Nolan Ryan 1999 497 491 98.79%
Cal Ripken, Jr 2007 545 537 98.53%
Ty Cobb 1936 226 222 98.23%
George Brett 1999 497 488 98.19%
Hank Aaron 1982 415 406 97.83%
Tony Gwynn 2007 545 532 97.61%
Mike Schmidt 1995 460 444 96.52%
Johnny Bench 1989 447 431 96.42%
Steve Carlton 1994 455 436 95.82%
Babe Ruth 1936 226 215 95.13%
Honus Wagner 1936 226 215 95.13%
Rickey Henderson 2009 539 511 94.80%
Willie Mays 1979 432 409 94.68%
Seaver wasn’t as good as Walter Johnson! He’s going to have to wait!
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
This
They need to go through and clean out some of these voters
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/gerrymandering
I’m not some Nerd-fuck who’s measuring REAL accomplishments against hypothetical BULLSHIT modeling and mythical probability graphs.
It's the American way!
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that's stupid too.
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That doesn’t bother me a bit.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
The only rationalization I can come up with is someone who is a “small Hall” guy – that is, would rather see only the truly great players make it in, but votes in a way that’s consistent with the reality of what the Hall is, and this is their little way of saying they don’t think a guy is a small Hall guy even though he’s going to get into the Hall? Just throwing out ideas here.
Also, it’s absolutely stupid that nobody has gotten 100%. Babe Fucking Ruth didn’t get someones vote? Regardless of how big you think the Hall should be, if a guy comes along that’s been better than anyone before him….why wouldn’t he get every vote?
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
oh i understand not voting for a guy
“small hall” guys don’t bother me much as long as they’re consistent. It’s the guys who don’t vote for a guy for however many years and then all of a sudden they think he’s good enough.
The no 100% thing is dumb too, although I think now it’s more inertia, i.e., some voters think that because Babe didn’t get 100%, no one should.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
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It’s the guys who don’t vote for a guy for however many years and then all of a sudden they think he’s good enough.
Definitely. If a guy wasn’t a HoF’er for the first 10 years after he retired, what makes him one after 15? It’s not like they’ve changed their performance….
And not to single anyone out, Jim Rice….speaking of which, do you think sportswriters stop and think "if “he was the most feared hitter of his generation!” wasn’t good enough, you know, shortly after he retired, why would it be good enough now? I kid, of course they don’t, they’re idiots!
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
They enjoy imagining Jim Rice or whomever sitting at home, watching his support build year by year, anxiously waiting for the all-powerful writers to bestow their approval on him. It’s payback for all those years of trying to drag a stupid quote out of the player.
Plus, the longer he’s been out of the game, the more apart of the “Golden Age of baseball!” he is, since, you know, the Golden Age seems to basically mean “the players of the past”, and excludes whoever the current players are….
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
For sure
His number merit being a first rounder, but also he is perceived as one of the “clean, he did it the right way” guys.
by Countificus on Aug 12, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Plus, he was the best player on a great team
All those playoff appearances look better now in retrospect. Kind of like the Bill’s Super Bowl appearances. It’s an amazing accomplishment, even though they never won. Chipper’s Jim Kelly.
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 12, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Bills' Sorry, misplaced apostrophe
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 12, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Although Chipper did win one
15 years ago already? Geez
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Sad
His body just did not hold up for him. He has been a great one.
by Countificus on Aug 12, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah
hard for me to seriously hate on him.
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Aug 12, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed.
I hope he gets to say goodbye to the home crowd this year.
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by troymccluresf on Aug 12, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I wonder
what his numbers would look like had he not had so many injuries in the last 10 years?
by Countificus on Aug 12, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
1st ballot
for sure.
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Aug 12, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s had a 16-year major league career to this point. His body did okay by him.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
i've always disliked him for some reason
but the dude can play. Don’t let it end this way Chipper.
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by Giant Voodoo on Aug 12, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Not only that
he was always always seemed smug
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by Giant Voodoo on Aug 12, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
And there was the affair he had,
cheating on his wife. Sure, a lot of fans don’t think that was bad, and that most players do it. But it’s looked down on in some circles, at least. Wade Boggs certainly caught some flack for the same thing.
by mrs. owlcroft on Aug 12, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
golf sucks. Tiger is annoying.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
THIS to Eldrick being annoying
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by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 12, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Golf=AWESOME
Tiger=Annoying, but fun to watch
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
This. Golf = awesome. All the majors = awesome. Tiger = awesome to watch (ESPN = annoying though)
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
YEP
Golf=AWESOME TO PLAY, plus to see Tigers’ reactions are pretty awesome
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watching this just makes me want to play.
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
sport: an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature
Pretty sure golf falls within this definition.
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Arguably this would include
Darts,
Bowling,
Cheerleading (which is legally not a sport)
Croquet
Curling….
Golf is a skill not a sport
Golf is more of a skill sport than you think, you can’t just go out there and smack a ball and expect to do well
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Yea, I would also call bowling a sport, and curling, I don’t know why you wouldnt.
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree
Bowling also a skill…curling skill (basically a life size version of shuffleboard with brooms)
Hater.
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So running and sprinting are skill-less activites?
Gotcha
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I can honestly say i'm OK at golf
playing baseball for all those years didn’t help tho
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bc you’re basically judging how much physical exertion it takes, when you’re classifying it as a non-sport. If you haven’t done it, you really don’t know
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Walking is not a requirement for golf!
The rules and objective of the game does not require one to walk…in fact people can play it almost without walking. That’s not just me talking…the Supreme Court says it.
The key elements of the game is 1) swing a club with consistency, 2) gauge distances, and 3) be calm.
While walking makes it tougher – you’ll be exhausted after playing a 4 hour round on a golf cart too. Mentally as well as physically.
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
what? darts is physically and mentally tiring now? I’ve played darts – I disagree.
Same goes for chess.
Brain surgery is non-competitive, so doesn’t count.
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Same goes for chess.
Have you EVER played chess? You know that grandmasters can burn like 1,000 calories an hour just by sitting and thinking?
So are you saying darts is not a sport?
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I dislike golf, but it’s a sport.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
So weightlifting is not a sport because there is no running?
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Weightlifting requires significant strength (physical trait)
Golf requires significant calmness and ability to repeat motion.
define sport. Until you define it, your points are meaningless
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
this
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Golf requires the physical activity of swinging the club. that’s enough for me.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
This is stupid. Golf is a sport.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m glad I could solve this thread.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t see why you take offense to someone who wants to define “sport” differently than you?
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
but nobody else has taken the time to define sport. This continues to be stupid
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t that the whole point of this subthread?
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by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, I guess I don’t see a problem with discussing how we all want to define “sport”, just that there’s no need to think someone else’s definition is stupid because it doesn’t agree with yours? Unless I misunderstood what you were calling stupid?
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh, I’m not going to make a big deal about this.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely, 100% correct. DH’ing isn’t a sport, it’s a made up BS position.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
no kidding
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by calpolynate on Aug 12, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d call golf a hobby. That has nothing to do with difficulty, just the kind of activity it is. If you usually drink alcohol while doing it…..not a sport! Darts? Out. Bowling? Out. Golf? out.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Rarely drink alcohol while playing golf
i walk 18 holes, carry my bag, and swing a club, sweat a ton and lose weight
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Lots of people drink beer while playing baseball.
It’s a hobby when not being played as a sport.
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree that golf is a sport. It’s just a horrible TV sport, and lame, with annoying golfers who somehow become stars with lots of endorsements for the old geezers who watch golf.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s pretty good on TV during final round of a major.
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I've played golf most of my life but I'm not a fan of watching it
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I like watching golf for a little while. It gets boring pretty quickly but it’s amazing how good they are.
I’m not some Nerd-fuck who’s measuring REAL accomplishments against hypothetical BULLSHIT modeling and mythical probability graphs.
I’d call golf a hobby. That has nothing to do with difficulty, just the kind of activity it is. If you usually drink alcohol while doing it…..not a sport!
I don’t think it should qualify as a sport either, but I dont like that argument. Lots of grown men drink while they play golf. But that kind of golf is about as similar to professional golf as men’s softball leagues are to professional baseball. Lots of grown men drink while they play softball. Is baseball therefore not a sport? Is basketball not a sport to Ron Artest since he used to drink at halftime?
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"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
what about golf then makes it not qualify as a sport? I just don’t get how you can make this argument.
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think anything you do in slacks and a polo shirt is a sport.
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"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
/runs a marathon in slacks and a polo t-shirt
I’m not some Nerd-fuck who’s measuring REAL accomplishments against hypothetical BULLSHIT modeling and mythical probability graphs.
correction: anything you do in slacks and polo shirt and you look as neat and clean when you get done as you did when you started is not a sport.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Do you look neat and clean after a round of golf?
Do you have your own personal fanner or something?
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compared to when you get done playing an actual sport? Yes, extremely clean and neat.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
define sport or stop arguing. Golf fits my definition of sport as given above. If it doesn’t fit yours, please feel free to present your own.
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
No no no, compared to when you first started the round
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what about golf then makes it not qualify as a sport?
See, I feel like this comment shows that you think calling golf not a sport is meant to be a negative point at golf. It’s not. It’s just meant to put our own definition to the word “sport”.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t see how you think that, but OK. And still, I am the only person that has put forth a definition of sport. Feel free to change that
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
My definition is something along the lines of “a complex game involving athletic actions”. I personally don’t even consider running a sport – I’d classify it as racing. I just like to classify things differently, and I’m just really specific with my definition of sports. Basically, running is the foundation of most sports – it’s the most basic thing you do WHILE performing other tasks. Doing it by itself? Not quite the same.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
A complex game invovling athletic actions?
I think you just eliminated like half of the field competitions in track and field.
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I almost added a line about how I don’t consider most Olympic events sports. I am fully aware of that. Track and field events, for the most part, are the foundations of other sports and things people do without thinking while doing other actions their sport entails!
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
And heck, I’d just call it all Track and Field! Seems like a good enough classification in itself.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Is basketball not a sport to Ron Artest since he used to drink at halftime?
Whoa whoa whoa, Ron Artest is crazy. Not fair to use him. Normal people don’t drink and play basektball, too much running involved.
Well, to be fair, professional golfers don’t even have to carry their own bag or anything. Just walk and swing! Not saying that makes what they do less impressive, just less “sporty”. I do like your slacks and polo shirt point.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Mens softball is definitely a hobby. Drinking while playing baseball? Yeah, you’re playing it as a hobby at that point. Does anyone actually go out drinking and playing it if they’re facing guys throwing 80+ on the mound?
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
And there are levels of golf where it’s a hobby. I play it for hobby, not for sport. Tiger Woods is playing a sport.
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
ok but you could say the same of professional golfers, none of them are drinking while playing. I was just trying to say that men’s softball is to pro baseball what the average joe golfing is to the PGA Tour.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
John Daly?
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
why isn’t beer league softball a sport? It’s still a competitive physical activity. Maybe not a very demanding one, but still…
Also, I don’t play beer league softball, so I’m not defending myself here.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Mickey Mantle?
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a bizarre distinction
If a game or contest requires physical ability, it’s a sport.
I definitely would not call any game or contest requiring physical ability is a sport. Twister is not a sport.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
depends who is playing. When I golf its not really competitive, but when I play whiffle ball with the roommates its incredibly competitive. Therefore, whiffle is more of a sport than golf?
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Like with any other sport, you should probably educate yourself before making this kind of statement.
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by calpolynate on Aug 12, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t say anything about how hard the sport is.
The least you can do is try playing a round of golf. Start there.
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by calpolynate on Aug 12, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Well I call golf a hobby and I’ve played plenty of rounds….
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
that’s good to know.
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by calpolynate on Aug 12, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I would define a sport as
Any competitive physical activity where the result is not ultimately determined by judges.
So…
sports: golf, baseball, bowling, tennis, whathaveyou
no sports: cheerleading, gymnastics, figure skating, etc.
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I have serious trouble with any definition that makes golf a sport but not boxing.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Interesting point
Of course, you CAN win a boxing match without a judge’s decision… you just knock a guy out. So I count it as a sport.
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My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
You hear his comments to the press?
Granted the press can be a bunch of sharks.
Telling a member of the press that even though you sucked ass and embarrassed yourself, you are better than him at golf tells me that you got some maturity issues.
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by Giant Voodoo on Aug 12, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
didn’t hear this. Clearly he has issues (beyond maturity) – doesn’t really matter to me. Love watching the guy play when he’s on his game.
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah i agree on that. When he’s on he’s pretty unstoppable.
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by Giant Voodoo on Aug 12, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
It was a joke, everyone in the room laughed, even the reporters
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by TexasRanger on Aug 12, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Nope.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Are the lineups out yet?
I’m curious to see if the Asian American and OSU Beaver Darwin Barney will get his major league debut. Good luck to you guys today and looking forward to our big series this weekend.
Beat ya!
My Son, the best outfielder in the National League.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
TWSS!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
.... good question
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Not really.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
hell no
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Overbay? At this point in his career? I have a hard time seeing him being better in any meaningful way at the plate, and Ishi is better defensively.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
.263/.354/.434 over the last three years, while in the AL East. Maybe his decline this year is for real, but that’s a big difference, given the league adjustment. And his glove is good, too.
Is his glove good at this point? He’s pretty average according to UZR. And Zips has him projected to basically hit the same as Ishikawa, though yes, that doesn’t include the AL East bump that’s necessary.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Grant is really Mike Fontenot in disguise
I never see the both of them in the same place!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 12, 2010 10:45 AM PDT reply actions
That’s an awful disguise.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 12, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL Bochy rewarding Rowand by leading him off
I guess you sit Torres as Huff doesn’t need days off – well on his way to 150+ games 7 out of last 8 seasons. Impressive.
Why can’t we just try Nate in CF? Or was that chasm?
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
and anyways
Rowand’s wRC+ this year is better than Nate’s career wRC+
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
TO THE ROWAND LEADOFF HATERZ
Dude has an OBP over .400 since the ASB.
My Son, the best outfielder in the National League.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
… in 56 PA. Still, I’ll take it.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
What is his OBP on thursdays?
I’m not some Nerd-fuck who’s measuring REAL accomplishments against hypothetical BULLSHIT modeling and mythical probability graphs.
Don't call me on this stuff.
My Son, the best outfielder in the National League.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
I don’t really understand why the Cubs would make this trade. Fontenot’s only costing them chump change, he’s not going to make much more next year, he’s a useful backup infielder at the very least, and Evan Crawford’s a nonprospect.
They like collecting good athletes
And ten years from now, maybe he becomes Andres Torres
For us
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 12, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Cubs get guys with great names
Fontenot, Theriot, Barney
nothing beats Gerald “Buster” Posey however.
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Aug 12, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
he has a .700 OPS in the minors the last two years
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Just posting what they are saying at Bleeding Cubbie Blue
BRING UP BARNEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES YES YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
My guess is, that’s exactly what’s going to happen.
This creates an opening on the 40-man roster; Barney will probably take Fontenot’s place and be recalled.
Barney is only 24 or 25 right?
He’ll be 25 in November.
I hope so. I saw the guy play in College. You are going to love him!
(This story was produced by BCPDnewservice. Our motto: If you don’t like this story then suck it!)
I take that back.
Darwin Barney has won everywhere he has played. Don’t bring him up. The Cubs must try to lose every game from here on out.
And Lou good thinking batting Nady 3rd. That will help the cubs lose for sure.
BCB is not one of the better sbnation sites
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
The Brewers' BCB > your BCB
Just saying ;-)
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I need other contributors. It’s getting hard to keep the site updated. My free time has decreased so much from a year ago.
Ask me about my blog.
Do you have any writing online? Send me an example of something you’d like to post and I’ll go over it. I really would like to find some talent to add to the site.
chris – at – baycityball dot com
Ask me about my blog.
Ha, it has always been my dream to have a blog! (Not true, my first blog was a disaster!)
You know what could be fun? Guest posters, though don’t know if that would actually lead to regular output. I dunno if I have the time/desire/motivation to actually contribute regularly, but I might be interested in doing something every once in a while. It’d give me an excuse to finally build my own baseball database and such – something I want to do for my career.
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Guest Posters:
LET ME SHOW YOU MY LOLCAT COLLECTION!
CHECK OUT THIS DISAPPROVING ASIAN FATHER
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I kind of figured that
You should poach some of Grant’s talent
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I tried to woo Anticon23 away after he got his THT gig. He’s one of my favorites.
Ask me about my blog.
I think he gets paid per article at THT
So you’re kind of out of luck there.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
There's a lot of people here who could probably write for you
Maybe ask like jp or Cookyman or howie
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
The Ramblings of PIKA?
Oh man, that would be something
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
plus i got school coming up
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Giants 2011 shortstop: Edgar Renteria vs Lil Wayne
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 12, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Ya know, if i actually cared enough about something i’d actually support many of my arguments with stats. There’s better things i can do with my time than to just sit at a computer and check stats of players and make assumptions on who is better
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
/2 hours worth of replies about his personal life
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
THANK you.
My Son, the best outfielder in the National League.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Yea… i can see where that’d get annoying, please direct me to the last time i discussed my personal life with people here, not counting last night
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I have better things to do with my time
than sit at a computer and check all the times you sat at a computer talking about yourself.
My Son, the best outfielder in the National League.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
WTF, if you don’t like it then just skip over it, how bout that? aight, i’m outta here, since apparently i can’t talk baseball
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I'm (mostly) kidding!
Actually, I would love to talk about baseball with you! This is, after all, a blog about baseball! We should talk about it here.
My Son, the best outfielder in the National League.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Obviously, but there’s also times where people just forget i actually do discuss baseball, and i may not be the stats guy or care for that matter about the stats and use them to prove a point, i do talk baseball
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Well see, that's the problem
Because a lot of us see baseball as a very analyitical sport, and we like to use the stats to talk about it.
So if you say something about baseball, and then someone either disagrees or explains how the stats show something different, then you just kinda say that you’re not a “stat guy”, and that more or less ends the conversation, because you don’t want to talk about the numbers that prove/disprove your point.
My Son, the best outfielder in the National League.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Whatever. Sometimes it’s nice to talk with the people here about their lives.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
here let me look up some stats and shove em in your face.. lalalallaa, oh well he’s got a .345245342543 AVG vs. lefty’s and a .245324543 vs. Righty’s BY GOLY HE SUCKS VS. RIGHTY’S
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
..... I mean, this is a baseball site...
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
but let's be real...
by most of the comments here, it’s much more than that
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Huh?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
All you got to do is check any thread, every single thread has something NOT to do with baseball
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
It’s all good Pika – I think most of us appreciate your contributions even if they’re not always baseball related.
by scottishgiants on Aug 12, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
That's true
But yours seem to be disproportionately more OT than baseball. Just sayin’
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Huh? the last time i actually MADE an OT post has been a while
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
You don't have to explicitly make an "OT" post
To derail a thread or subthread with OT comments. Just saying
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
If people don’t like OT posts, then they can just decide not to respond. Why get worked up about it?
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I have to z through all the OT posts to get to real comments
If there was a way to collapse OT subthreads, that would be great.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I think you probably need to get over it. It’s not going away.
Adopted Giant: Ryan Rohlinger (on loan from Shanghaijim).
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
I've accepted it
Can’t do anything about it.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I actually enjoy the OT threads. Seems like a lot of the baseball ones, while interesting at first, go round and round.
I’m not some Nerd-fuck who’s measuring REAL accomplishments against hypothetical BULLSHIT modeling and mythical probability graphs.
I usually do, but yesterday, for instance, it look me forever to Z through all of the OT comments yesterday in order to get to the Fontenot talk. That was sort of annoying.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I have to Z through all of the bay area talk because I’ve never been there. I couldn’t tell you what the difference is between Marin and San Jose.
I’m not some Nerd-fuck who’s measuring REAL accomplishments against hypothetical BULLSHIT modeling and mythical probability graphs.
I have to z through all the music talk, all the pokemonz talk, all the basketball and football talk, all the video game talk, most of the movie talk.
And, I don’t mind a bit. That’s what makes MCC MCC.
Adopted Giant: Ryan Rohlinger (on loan from Shanghaijim).
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
I z through anything resembling hockey.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
In fact, I just z’d through this comment I just made.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
You won’t have to avoid the Sharks then! HEYOO!
I’m not some Nerd-fuck who’s measuring REAL accomplishments against hypothetical BULLSHIT modeling and mythical probability graphs.
z
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
And stuff gets shoved awfully far to the right. And the Cal vs. Stanford, public vs. private university discussions really suck up hundreds of posts.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Aug 12, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not sure why. Cal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Stanfurd. There – that’s solved.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
It was a pretty epic run of “against the right margin” posts.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked the way it used to break the thread
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't mind the OT threads when there's like nothing to be said about baseball
But they often get in the way of serious discussion
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
This is very true, and one of the things I find annoying about taking part in front page conversations….
:\
by Missing Barry on Aug 12, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I, unfortunately, have no time for it either :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Oh yeah, grad school
LOL us
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
That guy really knows his saber stuff
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Aug 12, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Wait, can't you just put him on ESPN's payroll?
/half-joking
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Just half?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
The left half.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Aug 12, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
after my thesis is done, I’d probably like to start writing about stats and baseball
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
I like that
it could just be a picture of Jeff Goldblum making outrageous claims
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
Pablo Sandoval once punched a cow. Butterflies phase in and out of quantum dimensions.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
I need to lose another 20 pounds before I resemble that version of Goldblum
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
I need to see that movie again. It’s been forever.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I have not. Is it non-awful?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I haven’t either! I think it’s bad. Cronenberg isn’t involved in it, so I’m sure it sucked.
Ask me about my blog.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Aug 12, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I loved that one brutal argument they had about intangibles.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
Everyone should read it.
Especially the part where Cubbie-Tim is like “If you talk with any psychologist they’ll agree with me!!!” and Wreckard (i think) is like “Oh, I am a psychologist, thanks.”
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
That thread makes me embarrassed to be a Cubs fan
Well, I’m already embarrassed to be a Cubs fan. Let’s just say embarrasseder…
by Outshined_One on Aug 12, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
No worries, I don't think all Cubs fans are like that
That site’s pretty meh though
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
the smart cubs fans showed up to that thread too
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
OH WOW
For those who want to say intangibles do not exist in sports, I will define intangible
This already starts well:
For those who think a certain way, let me tell you why you are wrong:
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Ha
An example is a radio advertisement is an intangible item.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
DAMMIT THIS UTIL INF IS BLOCKING ANOTHER UTIL INF. WHAT DO WE DO
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 12, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I can only think they must actually like Crawford, though I can’t see why. Maybe they thought they were getting Brandon?
I can see the Cubs making that mistake. Of course, the Cubs have a high payroll and are terrible, so they may just want to shed payroll to rebuild/save money for new owner/sign FA
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 12, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
AmyGGiants #sfgiants Torres has tight legs. Bochy doesn’t want to risk injury so giving him day off.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 12, 2010 11:19 AM PDT reply actions
Correction
Torres hastightstudly legs
Yeah-ah
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McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
ack
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Aug 12, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Nice post, but what does bondslegend think?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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FUCKIN MEH
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 12, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
WHO THE FUCK IS MIKE FONTENOT
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
FUCK THAT GUY!
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
Anyone else see the guy at the Astros game that bailed on a foul ball, so that it hit his girlfriend?
So she broke up with him this morning on national TV. LOL
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 12, 2010 11:29 AM PDT reply actions
LOL Milking that 15 minutes
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
haha for real..
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Aug 12, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s… kinda lame/weird. I expect a search for a new boyfriend on the WB this fall.
Though I do kinda wish that had happened during a Giants game. Kruk would’ve eviscerated him.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Aug 12, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
D-Bag deserved it
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
She should have dumped him earlier for wearing his hat wrong.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
He bails on a foul ball, who knows how he handles childbirth
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 12, 2010 11:36 AM PDT reply actions
iracane
Johan Santana charged with third-degree assault of Rockies lineup. Four-hit shutout, 10 K’s. Two hrs 18 mins.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
LOL oh man
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I don’t think it’s funny.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I don’t want to live in a world where somebody fighting their father in law isn’t funny.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
Oh. That was a K-Rod joke? I thought it was in the context of his recent sexual assault charges.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Since they’re both Mets, I’m pretty sure it’s a K-Rod joke.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
Was quoted before they game as saying
“I am gonna rape this lineup”
TOO SOON?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
yeah
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
sorry
:(
You can hide it if you want.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Good. I needed a performance like that.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 12, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
anyone read this article about Posey from the nytimes?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/12/sports/baseball/12posey.html?_r=3
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
Posey stays close to the Florida State program. After leaving for the pros, he wrote a check to cover the Seminoles’ charter flights for the next two seasons. He lives in Tallahassee in the winter and still works out with the team, which keeps his locker and reveres him like perhaps no other player in school history.
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Aug 12, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Solution
Florida State created the awesomeness that is Buster Posey: Major League Catcher
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Aug 12, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
They did not create Buster… refined perhaps.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Buster is the sort of born-of-the-womb-ready-to-hit type of player i’ve been clamoring for, much like pujols, albeit with differing splits
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
Born? Nay, he descended from the heavens, ready to rake.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
bondslegend Fontenot is worthless because he’s reached his 30s. A 12-year-old with pop would be a better choice. bondslegend
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