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Highlight from the Giants' farm: Nick Noonan had five hits.

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AAA: Fresno lost to Colorado Springs 5-1

Fresno: 2B Brock Bond: 3 for 5
Colorado Springs: 1B Brad Eldred: 2 for 4, HR, 2B, 2 SO

Fresno: SP Henry Sosa: 5.1 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 5 K--2 HR

Bond, who hit just .193 in July (11 for 57), started off August with a three-hit game, raising his AVG back to .287.  Eldred, who began the week in the majors with the Rockies, had his 23rd HR and 18th double in the PCL this year.

Sosa allowed just 1 ER through five innings before allowing a couple runs in the 6th inning.  He threw 83 pitches (55 strikes).  He has allowed 2 HRs in each of his last three appearances after just 3 HRs previously this year.

AA: Altoona defeated Richmond 6-2

Richmond: 2B Nick Noonan: 5 for 5, SB
Richmond: 1B Sharlon Schoop: 3 for 5, SO

Richmond: SP Clayton Tanner: 6.0 IP, 6 H, 5 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 4 K--1 HB
Richmond: RP Mitch Lively: 1.0 IP, 2 H, 3 K
Altoona: SP Bryan Morris: 5.0 IP, 10 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 3 BB, 5 K--1 WP

Noonan had perhaps his best game of the season.  His five singles raised his AVG to .265.  He and Schoop, who had three singles, accounted for half of the Flying Squirrels' sixteen hits (but just one XBH).

I'm not sure what to make of this start by Tanner.  How often does a pitcher not give up an earned run but gives up unearned runs in three different innings?  He also had 6 SB against him.  Lively struck out three of his five batters.  Morris, whom the Dodgers drafted in the first round four years ago (later in the same round they drafted Clayton Kershaw) and whom they subsequently included in the trade for Manny Ramirez, has re-emerged as one of the better pitching prospects this year, although he matched a season high with 10 H today.

A+: San Jose lost to Inland Empire 4-2

San Jose: C Johnny Monell: 2 for 4, 2B

San Jose: SP Kyle Woodruff: 7.0 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 1 K--1 HR

Monell had the Giants' only multi-hit line, and his 18th double was their only XBH.  Red hot, he has had multiple hits in five of his last six games.

Considering that this was just his third pro start, Woodruff's 7.0 IP is rather impressive.  On the other hand, striking out just 1 of 28 batters is not a good indicator for success at higher levels.  His GO/FO line was 11/8.

A-: Augusta lost to Savannah 2-1

Augusta: 2B Ryan Cavan: 2 for 4, 2 SO

Augusta: SP Chris Heston: 5.0 IP, 7 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 3 K--2 HB

Cavan was one of three GreenJackets with two hits, raising his AVG back above .280.

Heston once again pitched well, bouncing back from his last start (5 ER in 3.2 IP), but once again did not receive enough run support to claim a win.  In ten starts since the end of May, he has a 1-6 W-L record despite a sub-3.00 ERA.

ssA: Salem-Keizer lost to Yakima 6-4

Salem-Keizer: CF Chris Lofton: 2 for 4, HBP, SB
Salem-Keizer: 3B Kyle Mach: 2 for 3, BB

Salem-Keizer: SP Edwin Escobar: 5.0 IP, 5 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 3 BB, 3 K--1 HR, 1 HB
Salem-Keizer: RP Stephen Harrold: 2.0 IP, 1 K

Mach reached base three times for the Volcanoes, but his OBP remains below .250 after 34 games.  Lofton also had two hits as he also reached base three times, albeit with one more plate appearance than Mach.

In terms of earned runs, Escobar had his second worst start of the year allowing more than three earned runs for just the second time in nine starts.  His ERA is 3.86.  A high walk rate continues to be the main concern with his peripherals stats as he has walked at least three batters in six of his nine starts.  Harrold had 2.0 scoreless IP to bring his ERA below 5.50 through nine NWL appearances.

R: Giants at Padres doubleheader postponed by rain

DSL: The Gigantes had their usual Sunday off-day

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Belt

0-4 1 BB.

What a bust!

Also he’s still playing in RF? What’s up with that?

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by sanfrankid on Aug 1, 2010 11:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh ok well he was in RF today and I’m wondering if anyone has given an explanation about why he was playing the OF.

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by sanfrankid on Aug 2, 2010 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

It has to be to see if he can hack it for a September callup There’s no other reason I can think of.

by Grant Brisbee on Aug 2, 2010 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed, and for even more near term considerations.

There is an OF open spot at AAA with Bowker gone, it could be in anticipation of getting him to AAA soon and sticking the bat immediately into the lineup.

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by jctGamer on Aug 2, 2010 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

There’s also an open OF spot in SF. Between Huff, Posey,and Ishi the most productive position on the Giants this year has been 1B. Meanwhile, RF and LF have been 2 of the least (relatively) productive. Even with Ishi starting at 1B and Huff in LF/RF, the Giants still need a consistent bat at the other corner OF position.

I’m sure that the Gaints are thinking that Belt’s bat could help out in Sept. when the rosters are expanded, and that if Belt can play LF/RF better than Burrell and Huff, then that would give Bochy added flexibility to get his bat in the lineup. Against a RHP, he could start Ishi at 1B, Huff in LF, and Belt in RF, keeping Burrell and Rowand on the bench for late inning D replacement and PH roles.

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 2, 2010 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t like trading Bowker as part of the Lopez package (bless his comebacker ways from last night though), but I’m very iffy on bringing Belt up this year. I get that he’s raking, but I don’t think it’s good developmental policy. I hope the Giants aren’t planning to do that.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 2, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Belt is still raking into the beginning of September and the Giants are still very much in the pennant race, then I have no problem bringing him up when the rosters are expanded. I see Belt as being similar to Posey in terms of his plate discipline and ability to get on base (although he still has a lot to prove in the minors to reach Posey’s current level).

Belt would likely be one of the top hitters in terms of ability to get on-base as soon as he gets to SF. Also, if he’s still raking it in AA that late in the season, then it’s pretty obviouisl that he’s going to be playing regularly in SF at least by the beginning of 2012, so starting his clock in 2010 is most likely not going to be a problem. Of course, BS has to lay down the law to Bochy and make sure that he doesn’t do the same thing to Belt that he did to Posey last Sept. – that was a total waste.

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 2, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus, doesn’t he need “86 days of service during the immediately preceding season” to be arb eligible (or in the top 17% in the class of players for Super Two)?

Belt could be a Sept callup, still not get 86 days, then be a Sept callup next year, not get 86 days, and therefore not be arb eligible? I suppose that if he’s ready then it doesn’t matter, and his clock can start next year, but a Sept callup won’t necessarily “start the clock.”

I have barely had any coffee today, so I’m hoping that makes sense.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 3, 2010 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's a new form of hazing

Before the Giants will call anyone up, he has to prove he can play at least one other position. This explains Posey to first, Bowker to first, Velez to the outfield, Panda to third…

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by EliminateMe on Aug 2, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just a thought

They may think that 1B has gotten awfully crowded, and don’t want that to block his progression. If the Giants re-sign Huff, then you have Huff, Ishi, Panda and Posey who can all play 1B. Given that the Giants may want to keep Posey’s bat in the lineup without wearing him out behind the plate, the long term solution could be Ishikawa at 1B with Posey starting there against LHP, or Sandoval at 1st with Sandoval shifting to 3rd on days Posey is at 1B. Or they could just want a place for Belt to be able to shift to on days when Posey is at 1B so that if he progresses like he has been then they’ll be able to keep his bat in the lineup when Posey is at 1B.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 2, 2010 4:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

When If the Giants re-sign Huff,

Fixed. You know it’s going to happen, at least another one year deal, with an option.

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by nvsfg on Aug 2, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the help

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by Giant Torture on Aug 2, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Belt’s played LF twice and RF once in the last 4 games. I think that it’s pretty obvious that the Giants are willing to do anything to get Schoop’s bat into the lineup.

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 2, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Schoop, wouldn’t it be great if he could do what his Nederlands teammate did?

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by say hey nation on Aug 2, 2010 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

You want him to play for the Dodgers?

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 2, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

You mean turn into a pitcher with a K rate through the roof?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 2, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can hear it now

And Sharlon Schoop’s it up in the dirt to complete the putout!

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by lurkers UNTIE on Aug 2, 2010 2:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great scoop by Schoop!

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by Lyle on Aug 2, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

So, he gets traded to the Yanks?

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by say hey nation on Aug 2, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Simple reason for Belt in the outfield – versitility, which will improve his chances of staying in the Bigs when he arrives there. All minor league affiliates lost – at least the Big Boys swept da Bums. 5 for 5 for Nick – hope this is a sign he is over whatever injury he had earlier in the year and he is heating up. Do Neal, Noonan and Gillaspe get promoted next year? If so, what becomes of Bond and Rohlinger? Nice to see Fairley’s average over .300. Now would like to see some power.

by APGiantsFan on Aug 2, 2010 8:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Noonan

Is still pretty young for AA, wouldn’t be horrible if they had him repeat it.

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by sanfrankid on Aug 2, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing they will

with Burriss, Downs, Bond, Rohlinger still in the fray their probably isn’t a whole lot of opportunities at AAA at 2B. I imagine Gillaspie will go to AAA and Culberson will play 3B at AA next year

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by Gobroks on Aug 2, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

My guess

Yes, they all 3 get promoted. Rohlinger spends more time at SS, Gillespie and Noonan take over 3B and 2B respectively. Neal plays every day, with some looks in RF as well as LF.

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by Lyle on Aug 2, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d think Noonan stays put. He hasn’t done anything that warrants a promotion. I can see Gillaspie getting promoted (b/c he’s on the 40-man and the clock is ticking, and his play recently would justify it), though I’d like to see him spend some time at 2nd base to see if he could stick at a position where his lack of power wouldn’t hurt as much.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 2, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Noonan goes to Fresno. I don’t think that he’s earned it, but the Giants love to keep their highly-drafted players moving. Also, they have Culberson targeted to start at 2B in Richmond (or wherever the Giants’ AA affiliate ends up).

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 2, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was my thinking as well.

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by Lyle on Aug 2, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I expect Noonan to spend 2 years in AAA. Easily.

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by Lyle on Aug 2, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right now I’d say the odds of him ever getting out of AAA and into a SF uni are very low. 2 years is very optimistic.

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 2, 2010 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well yes, those 2 years in AAA could eventually lead to…. nothing. And that’s much more likely with those kinds of players.

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by Lyle on Aug 3, 2010 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sosa has been yo yo'd

from starter to reliever a few times. Maybe the HRs are because he is easing up trying to last longer. Just guessing.
Certainly more valuable trade bait if he shows he can go 7 innings as a starter.

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by foothillsfan on Aug 2, 2010 8:35 AM PDT reply actions  

I think that his ultimate best spot in the majors is going to be as a setup man or late-innng specialist that pitches no more than 2 innings per outing. I say that because I think that he’s just too susceptible to injury when he tries to make a go of it in the starting rotation, and I don’t think he has enough quality pitches to make it as a starter. That being said, I have no problem with the Giants using him as a starter now to help him develop his secondary pitches. I hope that they don’t trade him any time soon, because his value is the lowest it has been in the past 3 years.

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 2, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

which reminds me of Bill Walsh’s comment that the trick is to avoid trading players too late. Sosa has that “big potential” label so we want to hold onto him.

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by foothillsfan on Aug 2, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but Walsh was speaking about trading veteran players that were near the end of their careers. Sosa, hopefully, has barely begun his career. For all of his deficiencies, BS has a history of beign quite good at trading young pitchers at, or near, the top of their values for useful players. He’s already missed out on that window with Sosa, so it’s in the Giants’ best interest to hold onto him now and see how he develops.

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 2, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Skeels, managing Richmond, has some roster problems. In addition to teaching Belt new positions for the big club.

With Lormand, playing SS and making 2 of the errors, you’d think Sharlon goes back to Schooping at short, and Lormand or Bond or somebody at first. LaTorre, at C, made the other error trying to get a base stealer at second, which also cost a run.

Ford, after 3 AB and no hits, was replaced by Timpner. Hoping that’s not an injury or other problem.

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by foothillsfan on Aug 2, 2010 8:48 AM PDT reply actions  

With Lormand, playing SS and making 2 of the errors, you’d think Sharlon goes back to Schooping at short, and Lormand or Bond or somebody at first. LaTorre, at C, made the other error trying to get a base stealer at second, which also cost a run.

Not necessarily. Schoop is probably the least likely succeed as a prospect and thus lowest on the totem pole for development.

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by say hey nation on Aug 2, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s a matter of development, just trying to use the players you have to maximize their defensive abilities.

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by Lyle on Aug 2, 2010 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lormand

is organizational at least as much as Schoop is. Lormand’s 1.5 years older. Gets promoted without earning it with the bat. But can fill in several infield positions. Schoop was a decent defensive shortstop and if he ever learns to hit, that defines a prospect. OPS’d over 600 last year in the Eastern League, which is more than Lormand is doing, while older.
Anyway Skeels in a tough spot and has no obvious first baseman with Belt in the outfield.

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by foothillsfan on Aug 2, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whoops, I confused Lormand and Lollis for some reason.

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by say hey nation on Aug 2, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Strange game in Richmond

The Squirrels get 16 hits and none of them were by Belt – go figure. Also, they get 16 hits and 3 BBs and can only score 2 runs (3 DPs by Belt, Neal and Ford with runners on 1st and 2nd being the main culprits). Meanwhile, Altoona gets only 9 hits and 4 BBs and they score 5 runs (2 errors by SS Ryan Lormand that directly lead to 4 unearned runs being the main culprits there).

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 2, 2010 8:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Altoona gets only 9 hits and 4 BBs and they score 5 runs 6 runs

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 2, 2010 9:01 AM PDT reply actions  

way to go Noonan and Schoop!

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by kbsofaraway08 on Aug 2, 2010 9:10 AM PDT reply actions  

I want it!

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by kbsofaraway08 on Aug 2, 2010 9:15 AM PDT reply actions  

what on earth is that, a Mud Hen?

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by foothillsfan on Aug 2, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tell me you are going to remove the sticker.

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And put a curve in the brim.

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by BruteSentiment on Aug 2, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

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Way better than the insect.

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by nvsfg on Aug 2, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

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INF Ryan Rohlinger has been optioned from the Giants back to the Grizzlies roster.

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by esseffgeez on Aug 2, 2010 12:32 PM PDT reply actions  

I guess that is the move to make room for Ramirez?

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 2, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Back to 13 pitchers, then?

by Evan on Aug 2, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope not, but can’t seem to think of another scenario.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 2, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s just no way this is a better team with Ramirez, Lopez, and Bautista on the roster than with Bowker, Rohlinger, and Joey Martinez.

by Evan on Aug 2, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't dislike the Lopez deal

Just what they gave up for him, and they were better relievers available and the fact that he seems to have a hard time throwing strikes, but Rags might be able to fix the latter.

13 pitchers is idiotic though, especially with as many late defensive substitutions as they make. I would lean closer to carrying 11 pitchers than 13.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 2, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s probably good that he doesn’t throw a lot of strikes, as he doesn’t have any sort of strikeout pitch. All he can do is nibble and make sure to stay down in the zone.

I still haven’t fully adapted to the move from the ten-man pitching staff to eleven. Thirteen just seems like a joke.

by Evan on Aug 2, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s already very clearly cost us one game, and I’m guessing with Uribe’s inability to stay healthy for 3 games at a time, it’s gonna bite us in the butt again before the week’s out. I just can’t understand what this addiction to Bautista is. There’ve been about 5 games lately where I watched and thought, he’s going to be in Fresno tomorrow, and not only is he NOT in Fresno tomorrow, but he’s back on the mound tomorrow, screwing up another game.

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by Roger on Aug 2, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same here. It’s bizarre that he’s still here. Let him learn to throw strikes in Fresno, for god’s sake.

by Evan on Aug 2, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe when Walkameyer comes back

It will finally mean the end of Bautista, but then they’ll still have 13 f’ing pitchers, on a club with 5 excellent starters who average over 6 innings a start. That’s the part that I really don’t get, if the starters were only averaging 5 innings, I could understand it, but yesterday they used 1 relief pitcher to pitch 1 inning and the day before I think they used two, not exactly an overworked pen.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 2, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone know Bautista’s status? He doesn’t have options, does he? Wonder if they could outright him like they did with Medders?

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by kdl on Aug 2, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think anyone would claim him if he got DFA'd

but I do think he is out of options

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by Gobroks on Aug 2, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, you’re probably right. Who would want him?

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by kdl on Aug 2, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

The DBacks maybe?

I doubt it, though. He’d probably head back to Fresno

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by Gobroks on Aug 2, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree, but it’s not even about that. Given the positional flexibility of the current roster, this team can handle having 12 pitchers, even though I’m with you on the switch from 10 to 11, then 12, and now 13 (!) pitchers on the roster. That’s just dumb.

What makes this colossally stupid, though, is that Uribe is hurting. It’s one thing when you have a guy who can play all the IF positions, but with him not at 100% health, why send down Rohlinger? Uribe aggravates his hamstring problem on the bases, Renteria gets beaned, and it’s the Randy Winn at 3B and Pedro Feliz at C fiasco all over again. Posey at SS!!

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 3, 2010 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, I feel the need to add that this was done because the roster can’t abide the loss of 7.3 BB/9 Bautista and 6.8 BB/9 Casilla.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 3, 2010 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Timmy, Zito, Cain, Sanchez, MadBum, Romo, Wilson, Casilla, Bautista, Mota, Ray, Lopez, Ramirez

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by esseffgeez on Aug 2, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rohlinger packaged in a post deadline deal ?

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by nvsfg on Aug 2, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think so

They probably just want him to get some AB’s…of course sending down a SS, when one SS is already injured probably isn’t the smartest move

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by Gobroks on Aug 2, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ya think?

Why would they need two shortstops, only one can play at a time.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 2, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

DENNY BAUTISTA CAN’T THROW A STRIKE TO A GODDAMN RELIEF PITCHER

GET THE FUCK RID OF HIM

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by groug on Aug 2, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Not a fan, either.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 2, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wellemeyer will save us

He throws strikes.

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by jctGamer on Aug 2, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

trouble is … we’re not going bowling.

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by Merope on Aug 2, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

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by Gobroks on Aug 2, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kuo is a good hitter

He’s got a bat in his hands. he’s dangerous

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by jctGamer on Aug 2, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPv2l5-uz4g

Check out the bat flip

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by jctGamer on Aug 2, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

hitting rehearsal!

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by Merope on Aug 2, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Volcanoes

We might be going to a game up in the great northwest sometime next week. Anybody we should watch for? Requests for photos?
If anybody’s been up to S-K and has some food/beverage/ballpark tips we’re all eyes.

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by Merope on Aug 2, 2010 1:05 PM PDT reply actions  

The Killer Kielbasa is tasty but makes my guts hurt so I’m only good for 1 a season. The build your own nachos are decent too. Only downside is you better get them before the 5th inning because they shut it down early. Thursday’s are $1 beer nights so that’s a plus.

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by RichH on Aug 2, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Surkamp

I saw Eric Surkamp got put on the DL. Anybody know what’s wrong with him?

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by Roger on Aug 3, 2010 9:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Didn’t he get hit on the ankle or the knee by a comebacker a short while ago?

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by jponry on Aug 3, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hurt his hip

Surkamp tweaked his hip trying to field a groundball. Originally, it was thought that he would only miss 2 starts, but he’s been out since July 17th, so we’re coming up on 3 weeks.

Eric Surkamp started for the Giants but left the game with one out in the third inning when he injured his hip trying to field an infield single by Brandon Wikoff. The extent of Surkamp’s injury is not known.

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by Fla-Giant on Aug 4, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

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