Post-game thread: Giants -- wait for it.... -- can't hit Strasburg
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 9, 2010 7:06 PM PDT
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PrintAll across the Bay Area, the cry echoed. The same words, uttered at the exact same time, reverberated off the hills, off the water, and off the buildings. It was eerie. After Andres Torres hit a leadoff home run, about 856,191 baseball fans said:
"There's your run, Matt."
Turns out that it would have been the wrong game for the Giants to score more than a run for Matt Cain, as he wasn't exactly a tough-luck loser tonight. He looked okay for most of the night, but then he started to get whomped. With a tired bullpen, Bruce Bochy left Cain out there to get whomped. There was much whomping. Seven earned runs later, and Cain joins the rest of the starting staff in the 3.00 ERA bracket. It could be worse.
Hey, it was the Strasburg game. I'm just glad Buster Posey had a hit of Strasburg. Did you see it? It was a rocket, shooting up the middle at 95 -- no, 105 -- miles per hour. I'm pretty sure Strasburg could smell the burning horsehide as the ball went by. If the ball survived, I'm sure it was put out of play.
Come back tomorrow, and the single will be even more impressive! Maybe tomorrow the story will have Posey riding the Loch Ness Monster as he hits the single. I think that happened, actually.
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/Matt cain wonders why he signed that extension
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
What's a put away pitch?
/throws 0-2 fastball right down the middle
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
need to trade him, not Sanchez, for a hitter while he’s still fooling the league into thinking he’s worth something
by oldgiantsguy on Jul 9, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
i lol'd irl
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
CANE FOR POSADA!
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 6:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Need a veteran big bat catcher or we won't be able to win!!
fuck why did we trade molina :((((
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
The rockies want the reds
Mike leake + coco cordero just gave up 6 runs in the 9th to let the phillies get a second life in extra’s LOL DUSTY.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
And ryan howard just hit a 2 run dinger to win it off rhodes
/ESPN goes crazy and starts talking phillies more than lebron
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
They haven’t been scoring runs for Strasberg. Then the Giants came to town.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Jul 9, 2010 7:10 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I didn't like this game
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
by Gobroks on Jul 9, 2010 7:10 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Once again mods fail to acknowledge Travis 2 for 3 Ishikawa. Haters!
You want to see a walk? Then go watch the mailman.
Go Travis Go!
If he hits enough he might just get to play again this year.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
If he played basketball I would call him Swishikawa.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
If he were a genie
I’d call him Wishikawa.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
If he were in Rachael Ray’s kitchen, I would call him Delishikawa.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
If he got caught in a downpour
I’d call him Squishikawa.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
If he were a mediocre former Giants pitching prospect
I would call him Mischikawa.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Jul 9, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I like this one the best.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
If he were a leggy dame
I’d call him Dishikawa.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
If he were a Yiddish snack I would call him Knishikawa.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
If he happened to be in Denmark, I would call him Fishikawa.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
If he happened to be from Helsinki, he would be Finnishikawa.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
If he was old and mediocre, Bochy would call him, “the starting 1B”
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
Wow, that was a pretty terrible Shakespeare fail.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
It was rotten.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Yeah….
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
nice
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
If he had a wife would you call her Mrs.Ishikawa?
by Into the Void on Jul 9, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Based on his minor league stats, he actually did get married in 2006.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
If you were Popeye, would you call him Spinachikawa?
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
if he was a Yiddish snack food he would be knishikawa
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
by SF Pete on Jul 10, 2010 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
dammit
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Reds
7-1 lead in the ninth. Phillies score 6 to tie, the last two on a two out Cody Ransom HR. Ryan Howard homers in the tenth to win it. Perhaps Dusty handed the game ball to Cordero with two outs in the ninth.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Jul 9, 2010 7:14 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I watched this
I saw mike leake enter the 9th with 85 pitches and a 6 run lead and was like LOL first career CG shutout, not in dustys world. Somehow they managed to blow that, via a LOL CODY RANDOM 2 run dinger off blown save master cordero.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
After issuing 9 walks before recording an out.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Yeah, dude...
It would totally suck if we had that Adam Dunn guy on our team. DNW!
We do not accept poor defenders on our squad, nor do we target non athletic players.
- Brian Sabean
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
After the Torres HR
I thought “They won’t score another run tonight.”
I am never thinking again.
…and now I will do the obvious response so you don’t have to:
WHADDYA MEAN AGAIN???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOLOLOLOLOLOL OHIKILLME HAHAHAHA
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jul 9, 2010 7:17 PM PDT reply actions
Bork bork don't pitch around bonds I know how to get him out bork bork
/dinger
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 9, 2010 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL!
I remember all those ABs against the Padres and thinking, “Thanks for the HRs Bochy, you dumbass.”
/drops face into hands and begins to weep uncontrollably.
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Jul 9, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I normally hate pitching around guys
No matter who it is, the pitcher still has the advantage and if I’m a pitcher, I like it when my manager has confidence in me…HOWEVER…I would have had Cain pitch to Dunn a lot more carefully after the first dinger and said “I don’t care if you walk him, just don’t let him beat us”
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
not...
…mother?
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Jul 9, 2010 7:18 PM PDT reply actions
3-3 Rox-Pads in 3rd
Giambino 2B, then scores on Herrera 2B (back-2-back)
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
all tied up in coors
LOL RANDOM DINGER
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
5-3 colorado
LOL DINGER LOL DINGER
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
With those non humidor balls being handed to the opponents pitchers non stop, I expect 15 more rockies dingerz on this homestand.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
SD and COL are playing each other? Thank god they can’t both win anymore.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jul 9, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
And the Giants' inability to win more than 4 in a row continues ..... :-(
The San Francisco Giants must win at least one World Series before I die.
Why do you hate Matt Cain?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 9, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt Cain is not the problem. If you want to see him win then he needs to be traded.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 9, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not saying he's entirely at fault, but he just doesn't have killer instinct.
I weary of waiting for him to be the kind of pitcher who only needs one run when all he gets is one run.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
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DON DRYSDALE DOWN THE STRETCH NERDS!
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
More importantly, both of these pitchers are the exception, not the rule.
Matt Cain can be (and frequently is) awesome without me expecting he’ll make it to the HOF.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
LOL Doesn’t know how to win.
Matt Cain of all pitchers deserves more wins but too bad the Giants are shitty when he pitches. WINZ R EVERYTHING.
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
Can’t really win a pennant with a shitty offense either. But putting blame on Matt Cain is just ridiculous. He didn’t pitch as well today but the fact that you think he should throw shutouts all the time because he only gets one run of support is stupid. How about that 1 unearned run complete game that he lost? Fact is that he gets really shitty run support and the offense should be blamed 9 times out of 10 for the loss.
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
Have you taken a look at his last 5 starts?
Only 2 were just barely quality. This team needs him to be a pitcher of quality 5 out of 6 starts. His only redeeming facet is that he sticks in there for a lot of innings before getting knocked out.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Have you seen Lincecum lately? It happens
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 9, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not sure how people can be hating on cain, if anything they should hate bork because there’s nothing wrong with hating bork even if it wasn’t his fault!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
because there’s nothing wrong with hating bork even if it wasn’t his fault!
You can tell me you’re joking and I still won’t be sure.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 9, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
No chasm
There is nothing wrong with bork hate, even when he made a “brilliant” managerial decision and the giants won.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Because...even if he's right he's wrong?
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 9, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Pitchers who have made quality starts 5 out of 6 times:
Johnson
Oswalt
Jimenez
Wainwright
Cain is not one of the top four pitchers in the league, but he’s still pretty damn good.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.
“quality start” is a bad for your argument. I am curious how many of them Matt has ended up getting the loss in.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 9, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
It doesn't matter what has ALREADY HAPPENED
he has to suck it up and be brilliant in crunch time and he’s not.
The Giants had a chance (Rockies sweep) to move within 2 games of first at the Break and Cain choked. If he had lost 1-0 or 2-1 or even 3-2, he could blame the lack of offense, but he took a one-man beatdown from a slow-ass Adam Dunn who had ZERO protection behind him in the lineup. The next 2 asshats each had SLG below .375.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
I get rather bored when this version of you starts posting.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
/goes
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
WOWch.
/scrambles to turn down PC volume
/hopes downstairs neighbor will still be neighborly
/locks door just in case
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 9, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you serious? I thought we put this argument to bed
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 9, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
We had 2 years of CAIN CAN’T WIN, then a little bit of CAIN TURNED A CORNER HE’S A SUPERSTAR BETTER THAN LINCECUM WHO SUX NOW OMG, but now we’re back to our roots.
I was promised lasagna.
NOW HE AND LINKECOME BOTH SUXXORS TREADE DTHEM NOW!
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 6:16 AM PDT up reply actions
BLOW THIS TEEM UP BOOM GOESA THE DINOMITE
Hmm...“ONdres Dyn – o – mite”…
…mebbe not.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure Buster hit that single while while riding an H-bomb, Major Kong style.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
So… LeBron James?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
LaBron
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
The epic destruction of Cleveland was kind of entertaining. I say that Giants fans are tortured. Heck, I say that I’m tortured, cause I love the Sacramento Kings as well as the Giants. But I’ve got nothing on Cleveland fans. Brutal.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
LeBrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
by Natto on Jul 9, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Ha ha!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Man taking picture to the left of LeBron is not amused by the buzzing noises.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Subject line please
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 9, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait! We got 8 runs for Cain! Off Strasburg?!?!?
Oh.
Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!
Just got back from the game
Ugly, but at least we were ugly against Strasburg and not Stammen… though that remains to be seen.
I think I’m going tomorrow too. Anyone else?
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Thank you Nationals for moving up Strasburg’s start to miss the Padres, so that the Giants could have the pleasure of this game.
The San Francisco Giants must win at least one World Series before I die.
by vinScullySucks on Jul 9, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
The fact that riggelman is more afraid of the padres offense than the giants offense.. says something. Considering riggelman is a horrible manager, what does that say about bork?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
If he were more afraid of the Padres offense, wouldn’t he want Strasburg to pitch against them? I think he would want his best pitcher going against the better offense, not the other way around. I kind of doubt any of that factored into the decision though.
by RoyaleWithCheese on Jul 10, 2010 4:23 AM PDT up reply actions
God point. I just got back from Marine World so I guess I’m in that category.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jul 9, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, tomorrow is second Saturday! I know you’ll be out there, Merope.
The Rivercats game that kdl and I attended…. It was pretty good! Hardly anyone was drunk, though there was a fool behind us rambling a bit. He wasn’t aggressive or loud. The weather was great and people were friendly. Maybe you should give the place another try. Attendance is WAY down, so maybe that has cut out the drunks.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
We’re going hiking in the Bay Area tomorrow. I’ve no interest in 2nd Saturday, especially when it’s zombie day or whatever the hell it is they are doing.
I wasn’t aware that it’s zombie day. A friend has a birthday tomorrow, so we’re gonna go to the Shady Lady and then walk over to another friend’s art exhibit.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Okay then.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Wait until he gets the sequel.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
Went to the Alameda County Fair. Today I learned about this thing call "Mutton Bustin’ ", which is like bull riding but with 3-6 year old kids riding sheep. Apparently there’s even a Wii game for this shit.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
Let's forget about this game and reflect on the awesomeness of Buster Posey
by Natto on Jul 9, 2010 7:52 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
HIGH DRIVE… DEEP INTO THE ATLANTIC… THAT BALL IS WAY BACK… OUTTA HERE! IT’S IN JOHANESBURG!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Where is this hit Grant speaks of?
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jul 9, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
This is where I nodded off and they slipped in the Humispheroids.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 9, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
PABLOL
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 8:00 PM PDT reply actions
I have decided that he is Randall Simon
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
comments thread has extra zombies
of course it’s good
by wcw on Jul 9, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I didn't like that game
But here is something I do like. Infact, I love it.
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
OTOH...
After watching the video of the incident and seeing the bewildered look on the kid’s face as Werth singlehandedly destroys the moment, then reading in the comments about how this isn’t Werth’s first foray into public relations – I’m hoping MLB, the Phillies, or SOMEBODY pulls him into an office and closes the door.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 9, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh. The fan said he was just trying to keep the ball from hitting the kid, so I certainly understand his viewpoint. But Werth would have caught that ball otherwise. It’s not like he berated the guy or anything. The game was on the line, the fan got in the way, Werth made one comment and walked away. Perfectly reasonable.
by Monkeyking42 on Jul 10, 2010 2:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Not THAT comment, THIS one. (formatting help by my proofreader.)
This story caught my eye because we were unpleasantly surprised by Werth’s interaction with a fan at another recent Phillies game against the Twins.
We were in the first row behind Werth when the Twins hit a HR in the next section over. In Philly, it’s become a tradition to throw the ball back when hit by an opponent (we know Cubbies fans, you invented it). This particular fan did not want to throw the ball back, prompting “throw it back” chants from the crowd, which is all perfectly acceptable pressure and somewhat good natured.
It all veered off course when Werth chose to inject himself into the situation, as the Phillies then had a pitching change. He looks back into the crowd at the fan and yells (at least this is what we think we heard and it now fits) “throw the f-ing ball back”. Thankfully, our kids were not with us at the game.
It’s not relevant how many times children hear that at school or wherever. It is never acceptable and they should NEVER hear that from a ballplayer that kids look up to as idols. It is such an easy thing to prevent just by keeping your mouth shut and doing your job.
The excuse the writer makes here is outrageous. The pressure of a new contract?? Are you kidding? Oh, he might only make $12MM next year instead of $15MM? That is not the definition of pressure. Pressure is what my wife had to do after her divorce from her ex—work 3 jobs to have enough money to pay rent while trying to raise 3 kids. Or how about the man who comes down with cancer and somehow has to support his family while he battles the disease? Or how about a family where both parents have lost their jobs and have to come up with something for a Christmas idea. THAT is pressure.
Stop making excuses for these jacka$$ athletes who think they can do anything because they can hit a baseball or throw a ball. Many of them are just losers or criminals with a god given talent. What Ichiro did was great—-it’s just sad that it is a notable exception in today’s world instead of the norm.
Hearing rumors that Werth is being traded and hoping to heck it happens!
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh hey, the Giants lost.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
I was busy stuffing my face with pork!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Pulled pork.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
It was delishikawa.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 9, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
This is one of the coolest flash games I’ve seen in ages.
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
Grand slam for ian stewart
10-8 rockies LOL HUMIDOR.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
OMG, YOU GAYZ! I wuz just about to post that!
It’s like psychosis or sumthin’.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
I’m glad garland has joined him in the wellemeyer club, hopefully ledouche and dickard do the same.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
More importantly, I'm glad Correia's hat says "SD" and not "SF" anymore.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
SSSSShhhhhhhhhhh.
/glares at kdl like librarian/
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 9, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
big surprise
500 foot homers from Dunn and flaccid Ginat bats= ho hum.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you just did!
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Best thing about the first homer, 0-2 count after two swing throughs on low curves, LOL FASTBALL!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Tried to watch some of the game
But living near DC, all I get are the Nationals announcers, and holy goodness they are obnoxious. The announcers are like all of the worst characters from Terminator 2, while ours must be somewhere around Terminator 1.
Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.
Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Jul 9, 2010 9:34 PM PDT reply actions
And they think strasburg is the best pitcher in baseball and complain about every single pitch he throws that’s not called a strike. Rob dibbel does awful color, the guy really comes off as a massive douche bag.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
The Nationals announces make Hawk Harrelson seem like Vin Scully doing NBC games in the 1980s. Dibble openly roots on the air for the Nationals. Bob Carpenter was awful when he was working for the Cardinals. Nobody watches it anyway. I understand Nats games are the lowest rated TV in baseball.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Nobody is as bad as Hawk, first of all. Dibble carries some residual entertainment value since he still gives off that “jock” vibe and openly calls out players as though he were part of the clubhouse.
Did I mention no one is as bad as Hawk? His home run calls are the absolute worst!!
by short_shifter on Jul 10, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Dibble is garbage. Federal Baseball currently has a Dibble bashing Fanpost up. Most DC fans can’t stand him and his “Smack ’Em Yack ’Em”
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
by souldrummer on Jul 10, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Roxies win 10-8.
Scored 5 in the 7th off the Pads’ bullpen.
Regress, Bitches!
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Here comes another 25-3 for the Rockies
Unflipping real.
So.....
How long until someone makes a serious stink about Colorado, and whatever the fuck is going on there?
I’ve heard a few quotes (Most recently from Franklin) from relievers who complained that the ball felt funny. Or they couldn’t get a normal grip. Or whatever. Are the Rox doctoring balls?
/Paranoid San Franciscan
/Grabs sign and joins dude with the “12 Galaxies” sign
Miller said something about it the other morning when he was on the KNBR morning show. I wonder if they podcast that… it was right after the Giants left Cololrado …after the first comeback against the Cardinals, I think.
SF Giant broadcaster JON MILLER reviews last night’s schalacking of the Brew Crew and sheds light on a conspiracy at Coors Field.
http://www.knbr.com/OnKNBR680/MurphandMac/tabid/584/Default.aspx
scroll down, waaaaaay down.
what conspiracy?
they just do whatever they want. and no one says boo. Nice to be them.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the fact that they are so open about using a fucking humidor pisses me off even more. It’s like someone telling you they’re cheating, and you can’t do a damn thing about it.
So making baseballs the precise humidity and temperature as other balls in MLB is cheating?
Both teams use the same ball
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 10, 2010 6:18 AM PDT up reply actions
is that what the conspiracy theory is? I didn’t click any links
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
It might not even be an “official” maneuver, some schmuck behind the scenes may be “accidentally” taking the baseballs for the later innings from a different place…
but that scenario doesn’t sound like it would be one set of balls for one team and one for another
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
I’ve never umpired so I don’t know how it works…but I would guess they can only hold onto what? 5? 6? baseballs at a time? So the first batters in bottom of the 9th might get regular baseballs… and the dudes in the middle of the inning get the juiced balls … ?
the home team bat boys do bring out the balls to the umps. I guess it would be pretty easy to manipulate.
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
I know Bud Selig is unpopular
But there’s no way a commissioner would allow such an unmonitored open window for blatant manipulation of the game to occur, especially after the Steroid Era.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 10, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Milk spouts from the nostrils.
The Commissioner is Bud Selig.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
by owlcroft on Jul 10, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I SPLUTTERED last night at "Emperor Seligula".
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I don’t understand how it’s a problem as long as both teams are using the same balls.
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
They are
The conspiracy theories are completely ridiculous. One week, Jeff Cirillo or Ken Macha complain that the balls favor pitching way too much. The next, it’s LOLCOORZ and what a fluky offensive ballpark. Both teams use the same balls, and every park has organic stretches of high and low-run scoring environments. As it is, the ballpark factor is no worse than Chase Field. And the humidor is heavily monitored and regulated.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 10, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions
a link would be great
And the humidor is heavily monitored and regulated.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Okay
the Rockies must file weekly reports with Major League Baseball, and MLB operations will travel to Coors for periodic checks. Solomon said the Rockies are monitored more than any other club.
Link
There are plenty more if you’re interested.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 10, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
A more recent one would be nice
But the eventual goal is to make sure that the baseball in all venues stays at Rawlings’ specifications, presumably with all teams storing them in a standard chamber.
Do they use one at Colorado Springs? Or anywhere else in the PCL?
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
The humidor gained a lot of notoriety in 2007 with the Rockies' success, so that's why most articles are from then
even though it has been installed for eight years. There hasn’t really been any complaints for some time, so those stories haven’t really been updated. But would it make any sense at all for MLB to install restrictions and regulations for the humidor only to relax them?
They do not use a humidor in Colorado Springs the PCL, which frankly makes things incredibly difficult on the Rockies. A top prospect Mike McKenry is hitting well in AAA, but he has a home/road wOBA split of nearly 200 points, and all his HR have been at home. Top pitching prospects Esmil Rogers and Jhoulys Chacin have run into a buzzsaw at AAA due to the Springs’ elevation. Both have better ERAs at the MLB level in part due to that.
There are no plans to install a humidor there though. Technically, the Sky Sox are owned by Elmore Sports Group, not the Colorado Rockies, so the finances and ownership of the humidor would be difficult to work through
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 10, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll be more specific
are there humidors at every park now, or not? Or is the “eventual goal” just that?
That was exactly my thought about the Sky Sox… that’s a tough way to develop pitchers. Certainly not unique to the PCL (hello Salt Lake, Reno, Fresno) but still pretty rough. Maybe the PCL theory is that more runs sell more tickets, which is probably right from the perspective of the AAA teams.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure only Coors Field uses it
It costs $15,000 just to purchase the device, let alone operation costs and paperwork costs. It just doesn’t make sense for a team on the coast to spend that money to keep baseballs at 70 degrees and 50% humidity when the weather is around that level most of the time anyway.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 10, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
So
in the three years since that article was written MLB has made 0 progress on its “eventual goal” of standardizing humidity as pertains to baseballs in 29 of 30 parks. Which should help answer your above questions about “why MLB would make regulations only to relax them” or “why the Commissioner would allow such an unmonitored open window for blatant manipulation of the game to occur, especially after the Steroid Era.”
As for the purchase price, $15,000 is a laughably small sum to a major league operation. As you point out Chase should probably have to do it too, if the Rockies do it, and presumably the Giants and Padres and maybe Florida should be drying out their baseballs. Or they should just forget it in the first place, considering the PCL doesn’t bother, the Denver Bears never bothered, and baseball has been played out in the elements (absent the domed stadium era) since forever.
But there appears to be pretty much no thought of making them do so, so reams of regulations and teams of Mitchell Report inspectors that wander through one out of 30 parks don’t really make me feel much better. Kind of like the rules that apparently only apply to Dinger that let him prance around behind home plate but force him to sit down when a pitch is thrown.
Thanks for posting your links and thoughts. I have to go back to straightening the tinfoil on my hat and working on my 9/11 videos.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I still wouldn't pay $10 to buy a special fridge myself for my lettuce if it fits in the my kitchen fridge
Why spend the money if it makes no difference to your individual situation? Chase Field’s issue isn’t necessarily the humidity of the balls, as it still plays heavily towards offense when the roof is closed. But it wouldn’t hurt.
The irony in all of this is that the Rockies were dreadfully behind all other 29 teams in offense from the 7th inning on for the first 3 months of the season. They’ve only recently found their mojo. Before the Cardinals series, they had scored all of 14 runs in the 9th inning all year. These things just even out eventuall, this time from extreme to extreme.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 10, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
see, that's the thing
Why spend the money if it makes no difference to your individual situation? Chase Field’s issue isn’t necessarily the humidity of the balls, as it still plays heavily towards offense when the roof is closed. But it wouldn’t hurt.
It’s obviously, whether to help attract free agent pitchers or affect offense at the park, in the Rockies’ interest enough to spend the money and expend the effort to do it. They have historically been successful enough in all facets of the game to convince me they’re not irrational or dumb or just doing it because the team astrologer thinks it improves the feng shui of Coors Field (those pointy mountains must mess it up something terrible).
I don’t know what it would, or wouldn’t do in Chase, or AT&T, or what hot baseballs would do in Wrigley in April. And I don’t think MLB’s crack regulators do either. So they shouldn’t be experimenting in one stadium during the regular season and, worse, in the post-season.
I kind of miss those 15-run games and Larry Walker mashing baseballs all over the universe. It made the league interesting, and the Rockies competed in spite of it (and teams dreaded going to Coors and planned around it). If the Rockies really are doing it with fantastic young pitchers, and they certainly have some, they shouldn’t need to freeze their baseballs any more than any other team does. Which should be pretty obvious, since no other team has bothered to do so in the 8 years since the aquarium was installed. Tell the mascot to sit down, and just rub the baseballs with New Jersey mud like everybody else does. And then play ball.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I kind of miss those 15-run games and Larry Walker mashing baseballs all over the universe.
I hated that bullcrap. It was a completely different game in that park, pre-humidor.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
MLB should have thought of that before they put a team in Denver
and anyway that’s unpossible since it has no effect and is highly regulated.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
this comment misses the mark
First of all, the rockies never competed in spite of the Pinball Coors era. In the fourteen seasons from 1993-2006, they finished higher than fourth in the division exactly once.
additionally, the humidor does not “freeze” baseballs. If anything, it is the opposite. It keeps balls at 70 degrees and 50% humidity, which is far closer to the climate at other baseballs fields.
Coors Field is the only mlb stadium above 1500 feet without a dome, and it sits there at 5200 feet. OF COURSE the environment is different. The humidor can’t normalize the actual atmosphere, so Coors will always lean offensive. It just adjusts the balls to be JUST LIKE EVERYWHERE ELSE to make it more of a true game.
Not only is this better for the game, its more fair to opposing bullpens. It allows the Rockies to actually sign free agent pitchers, should they ever want to. It has allowed them to compete in part because Coors is now the same game as other stadia, more or less.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 10, 2010 11:27 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
this comment also misses the mark
keeps balls at 70 degrees and 50% humidity, which is far closer to the climate at other baseballs fields
That is probably never the case. It’s July now, and I expect those conditions at probably 0 parks. It’s 62 with 79% humidity in SF right now. It’s going to be 110 with 22% humidity at Chase. It will be 88 with 60% humidity in Texas. It’s never the case in April, and it is never the case in September, or October. Either everyone should do it and play with 70 degree baseballs, or no one should.
And yes, I am aware the balls are not kept in an aquarium or freezer. I was kidding, which I do to be sure I don’t take myself too seriously when posting on an internet board.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
It's just a matter of getting closer
In Denver, it could be 50 degrees with 0 humidity. That’s a great deal different. It will still have to deal with the actual mile-high air, but the results are irrefutable that it has normalized Coors to within acceptable levels. That’s all it’s about
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 10, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
but the results are irrefutable that it has normalized Coors to within acceptable levels.
At least until the Rockies are trailing late in a game.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
/tracy calls for the good balls
Magic rockies come back time!!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
They have scored all of 24 runs in the ninth inning this season
Sounds to me like the visiting team is turning up the humidor late in games until the Rockies caught them early this week.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 10, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn't have to be just the 9th.
Although I am sure your point would benefit from that being the case.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Fine
They were ranked 30th in MLB in runs and OPS from innings 7-9 until Monday
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 10, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
And they slug almost .120 points better at home vs. the road
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Uh, yeah. They play in an extreme hitters’ park, and everybody hits better at home. How is that cheating?
I was promised lasagna.
The Giants difference is .015
ANd if you are going to make that argument, then why have a humidor?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants don’t play in an extreme hitters’ park.
Arizona is OPSing 143 points higher at home – they’re cheating even more than the Rockies!
The point of the humidor isn’t to make it a neutral park, it’s just to make sure that it’s the joke park that it was in the 90’s.
I was promised lasagna.
Precisely
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 10, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
And why didn't you use slg?
Because it wouldn’t make your point
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
they’re cheating even more than the Rockies!
Also, since you didn’t even stick to the metric we were using, the above quote is frankly pretty stupid.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
So
Unless I’m missing something, they do have the biggest home/road difference in the majors. Arizona is second. But Coors is known as the most extreme hitters’ park in the majors, so I don’t know if it’s really suspicious.
Also, the Rockies’ hitters have the lowest GB% in the NL – whether intentionally or not, Colorado collected hitters who are more likely to benefit from Coors than those of any other team. And their pitching staff has the 3rd highest GB% in the league, so they’re not as affected by Coors as most.
The Rockies were basically constructed to succeed in Coors.
I was promised lasagna.
. But Coors is known as the most extreme hitters’ park in the majors, so I don’t know if it’s really suspicious.
Assuming they are not swapping the balls out for home at-bats, the park factor has absolutely nothing to do with the splits. It isn’t like the visiting team has to take their at-bats at sea level.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually
Nevermind the above. I see what you are saying now.
Thanks.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Before last night, Ian Stewart hit 8 of his 9 HR on the road!
The Rockies are cheating on the road!
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 10, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, lets make the sample even smaller!
Excellent point!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not
41 season road games>4 home games this week
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 10, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Right
So you take one individual out of an entire team’s stats and use it as an example and somehow that isn’t reducing the sample.
Fantastic.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, it works far better than you think
Stewart had about as many road ABs as the team had total ABs in the first four games this week.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 11, 2010 6:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Weather for San Jose, CA
59°F
Weather for Mesa, AZ
99°F
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 9, 2010 10:02 PM PDT reply actions
I'm annually amazed how this atmospheric lunacy happens after the summer solstice.
Merry hell.
Friggin’ SD/COL game was going on forever.
So of COURSE as soon as I doze off the action starts.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 9, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Was watching the game on DC television tonight. Dibble really effing sucks. But anyways, Cain looked completely gassed in the 6th. Was I the only one really annoyed when he came out for the 7th and kept pitching? The future of this team rides in part on that man’s arm, and there was no reason to keep him in for a game that wasn’t even close at that point.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.
LOL RANGERS
A grand slam by corey patterson to tie the game after molina had feliz nibbling with a 4 run lead LOL MOLINA LOL RANGERS LOL FELIZ.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
What is up with all this massive bullpen failure lately?
The giants haven’t taken place in it yet since late june, this is not good folks.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I meant the giants haven’t had a bullpen meltdown sie late april, but even then that was just a 3 run lead and the definition of a fluke.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
That’s because we have Brian Wilson and other teams don’t.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Jul 10, 2010 12:28 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
This
He has been one of the few things this year that has yet to suck, except for that one game that got cancelled.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 10, 2010 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions
This team's offense struggles sometimes
Also, Pablo, please hit better!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Somewhat OT:
My posting time has been limited lately, so this really belongs to the prior game’s thread, but anyway:
When Bochy brought in Schierholtz as a defensive replacement and Runzler as the new reliever, is there some reason to believe that not putting Schierholtz in the pitcher’s slot and Runzler in the slot of the man (Burrell, I think) who had just or recently batted was a folly of close to immediate-fire magnitude? If I am remembering it all aright, Runzler need not have come to the plate at all; granted, no one could foresee his accident, but it still seems, um, very unwise.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
You are correct
Runzler should have also never hit, just like todd wellemeyer being told to hit agains the reds and hurting himself. Seems like something only a clueless moronic manager who shouldn’t be employed would do, hmm…
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
‘specially since they’re BASEBALL PLAYERS
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
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by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Nate replaced Pat at the start of Inning 6 with Denny pitching
Bottom of the 6th, Brewers Batting, Behind 2-6, Giants’ Denny Bautista facing 3-4-5
Aubrey Huff moves from RF to LF
Nate Schierholtz replaces Pat Burrell (LF) playing RF batting 4th
(following 2 Milwaukee 1Bs)
Santiago Casilla replaces Denny Bautista pitching and batting 9th
(following a 1B, a K, then a BB)
Dan Runzler replaces Santiago Casilla pitching and batting 9th
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/MIL/MIL201007080.shtml
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Bear with me, I'm slow.
OK, the pitching change comes separate from and after the insertion of Schierholtz. But that only changes the question slightly: why not replace Bautista at the same time, allowing the double switch? Whatever could constitute solid evidence that it was wise and appropriate to run Bautista out there to start the 6th? (That question is separate from the larger one of “Whatever could constitute solid evidence that it was wise and appropriate to have Bautista on the staff?”)
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
That's a different argument
which I agree with.
And the choice was between having Denny Bautista or Waldis Joaquin on staff. Seeing as how Waldis had a spiffy WHIP of 2.786 (4.2 innings), it still seems OK to me.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Why that dichotomy?
I don’t know much about Joaquin, though some seem to feel he’s the next peelable banana. But what this bullpen needs right now, and about all it needs, is to delete Bautista and Casilla and add Martinez. (Of course, now the Runzler thing adds a temporary complication, but—we hope—very temporary). Alphabetically, Affeldt, Martinez, Mota, Ray, Romo, Runzler, Wilson—what’s not to like?
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Oh rangers, giving up a grand slam in the 9th to tie it and then letting jake fox hit a go ahead homer in the 10th LOLpen.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
They should have brought in Lee to mop it up.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
How do you blow a 4 run lead in the 9th with 2 outs against the orioles is beyond me. That’s almost as bad as giving up a walk off win to the giants when leading by 2 runs going into the 9th.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
you have Bengie Molina catching and batting 6th
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
LOL Bengie and Lee going to the World Series
by oldgiantsguy on Jul 9, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope they have good seats!
They should stay at the Hyatt I hear it’s nice.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 6:18 AM PDT up reply actions
How do you allow a team to score 6 in the bottom of the 9th with the game tying run by Cody Ransom?
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
How do you let a team score 9 in the 9th to...
oh god.
/Cards fan weeps.
Fuck the Rockies, man.
You have dusty baker as your management
Why walk troy glaus to setup the force at every base when I can just pitch to him?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Because intentionally loading the bases with nobody out is a bad idea
Also, why are we talking about Game Six?
by RoyaleWithCheese on Jul 10, 2010 4:45 AM PDT up reply actions
man whatever
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
You can’t tell me what to do with whatever!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh wait, it’s you. Forget I said that last thing.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
/mans whatever.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
with proofrediting it would take me five minutes AT BEST to do all that.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions
WHAT THE HELL EVER
glad i left to go to the brewery
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
BREAKING NEWS
PiKA drinking!
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
you're sarcasm is killing me, seriously, it really is
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
How did you incorporate your brewery visit into your workout?
Did you run there?
Did you do “curls” to failure?
Or was the “failure” of a gastronomic nature?
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I can’t believe I listened to almost all of it.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 10, 2010 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Poor Cain by the way, what the hell has happened
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
He’s not Superman.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions
one day i have to realize
that the giants pitchers are human
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Mostly.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Zeetz could use a new back.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 10, 2010 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Some Posivitiy/Perspective
The Giants looked horrible during the 7-game losing streak and lots of people were saying things like “get whatever you can for Huff and Uribe”.
They didn’t pack it in and got to Jimenez and ended the streak, but lost the soul-crushing 15-inning game. That could have put them right back in funkytown, but they swept the Brewers on the road.
So now Aztec Strasburg shuts them down; certainly not reason to panic. If they split the final two games of the series, they’ll end up with a winning record on the road trip from hell. Hell, they could still finish the trip 7-4 with a couple of wins and who here wouldn’t be pleased with that.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I agree
Let’s wreck Craig Stammen and Livan and head into the break with some good vibrations.
I still believe in the magic in this thing!
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Craig Stammen will wreck himself.
He’s been awful, awful awful and has applied the Wil Nieves “stick pins into my Jesus Flores voodoo doll” to the “stick pins into my John Lannan voodoo” doll. The only reason that he’s up here is that John Lannan fell off of a cliff. He believes only in the contact side of pitch to contact, has minimal plus pitches, and will likely get shelled leaving an old fashioned Livo rubber match as the battle for positive mojo for both sides heading into the all-star break.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
sick burn
He believes only in the contact side of pitch to contact
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
yeah. Cain’s performance was dissappointing, and losing Torres (if he’s out for a while) is certainly a blow. But I expected us to lose that game.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
Start the Firesale
It’s time for the Giants to make their move and start getting some young players in to their system, which looks more depleted every day. Trade Huff and Burrell, find out if Bowker and Schierholz can play. I know it won’t be popular, but it’s the best thing in the long run. Also, they should fire Bochy, and preferably Sabean too, before doing this.
They've won 4 out of their last 5
…and have a winning record on this current road trip.
Are you a big-time quitter, or what?
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
They're behind three teams
and 5-5 in their last 10 counting the Milwaukee Bombing Incident. They’re not out of it, but it’s not crazy talk, especially when a lot of teams think they’re buyers. And if Torres misses more than a couple of games that is going to clear up an awful lot.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
My comment was really directed toward the poster
Been here a month, over 300 comments, and I’m not sure any of them have been positive. Criticism is fine, but if it’s not at all balanced, it’s just a ridiculous as someone who thinks everything is perfect and nothing is wrong
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
fair enough
And your son is still the most valuable chip of all! Sell sell sell!
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Burrell has no trade value.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
even to Texas?
They seem to be enjoying this whole bankruptcy thing a lot. Burrell and Bengie could be reunited!
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Sure, maybe.
I would definitely trade Huff to them.
They just lost Smoak, they seem to be blowing the farm system up due to the bankruptcy issue, and Jon Daniels clearly doesn’t value his prospects as much as most teams around the league, judging by recent moves.
If Molina=Michael Main, then Huff=Martin Perez, and while I don’t expect that to happen, any two of these guys would be pretty sweet: Tanner Scheppers, Chris Davis, Wilmer Font. That’s all I know about that farm system.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I was mostly kidding, I'd think they're done
but there does seem to be more happening this year, and if they are going to sell the deals might be better now than once the pretenders start falling by the wayside.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope not
This would be a good time.
There’s always a risk of Huff falling back down to earth a bit. I’d guess this is a peak in value right here.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
absolutely
or an injury to any of them, a la Torres, even one that just lasts through the deadline would be enough to scare teams away from the over-30 fellas.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
A 124 OPS+ for league minimum?
I would think there’s some team out there that would want him.
That said, I vote for “standing PAT”
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I hear Tampa needs a righty bat
sell sell sell!
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
He had no trade value 100 PAs ago (release/DFA) and that amount of play is not going to change much.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
But the team aquiring him would no longer be looking at taking on his TB salary
I think if scouts were watching him, they’d have to be impressed with his ABs
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Remind me of the nature of his acquisition. Was he a free agent, or DFA. If either, most of the teams in baseball already passed up on getting him for the minimum.
They’d need more than 100 PAs to admit they were wrong and give up a player for something that could be had for cheaper.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
So yeah, since the Giants were behind every AL team and every NL team with a worse record, most of the teams in the majors passed on him.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Wait...I thought he was a DFA
…and free to go wherever he wanted
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Abs can be impressive.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
It was 68 when we got him, though.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Well, yeah. That’s why it’s 98 now. But I don’t think most teams are as willing to completely ignore 700 PA’s in Tampa as Goofus is.
I was promised lasagna.
This
The dude is crashing back down to earth with a .436 OPS for the month. He is the player everyone saw in Tampa Bay. He didn’t fall into a vat of radioactive NL West waste and turn into a different player.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I think
vat of radioactive NL West waste
this is a dish served in the all-you-can-eat section at Fodger Stadium.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL 2 meh series and did not start in 2 games in Coors where he hits best.
On the last homestand Boston-LA:
Torres - .105/.150/.158 .125/.120/.125
Huff -
Posey — .235/.222/.235
Burrell — .429/.500/.643
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
hmm... format weirdness
last homestand slashes:
Burrell .429/.500/.643
Torres .105/.150/.150
Huff .125/.120/.125
Posey .235/.222/.235
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Heh
As if I am going to take anyone who thinks Matt Cain sucks seriously.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU ARE RIGHT!
HE SHOULD DRIVE IN HIS OWN RUNS!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
DAN RUNZLER TOTALLY DESERVED THAT WIN!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure, he did
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
MICROSPLITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now I miss saying that to OGC.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
I didn’t watch yesterday’s game, but from the radio, it seemed like there was an awful lot of balls he was failing to cut off or get to. Don’t know if that was on him or not.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
They absolutely were on him
He was awful in left yesterday.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Pat was his normal in LF.
But the 3B he miight have held to a 2B was irrelevant, because the next dude singled up the middle and the run would have scored anyway.
[Hey, Nate sighting on TWIB]
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
You have a Wilriv-like fondness for bad baseball players
K-Fred is 176 times better than Burrell in the outfield.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
K-Fred gets to balls he should not be able to catch
then ends up not catching them.
Burrell does not even bother because he acknowledges he can’t catch them and accepts the reality of it.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
by hokysmksbw on Jul 10, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
OK.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
K-Fred's defensive numbers in Toronto call you a liar
Burrell doesn’t get to anything because he sucks. The last thing a team that doesn’t score needs is a player that gives up extra bases.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
he is a DH, except there is no DH. and his D sux , nake eyes'd
look, it's CashMonay , bitches! you down with da O.P.P... Cash does, give it up !
That's Fred all over.
Pat has exactly 2 errors in LF as a Giant. One was a throwing error in Houston that Edgar should have caught. The other was the hit that bounced away from him in AT&T against the Dodgers.
If you want to argue that any ball which a young Barry Bonds might have caught that Pat is not getting to should be considered an error, you are smoking crack.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Burrell’s range is like five steps in either direction from where he’s positioned. It’s nice that he does okay with what he gets to, but he doesn’t get to much of anything. Outfielder errors are largely worthless as a measure of how good an OF is defensively.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
but with K-Fred's speed, he gets to those flies
yet somehow does not field them cleanly anyway
that is much worse
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
The way people talk about Fred, you would think that he never made an actual put-out in his life.
Did he fuck up on some of the balls he got to? Yes. But he caught far more of them than he fucked up and he got to and caught far more balls than Burrell did.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I beg to disagree since Pat has played many more years
so therefore has many more putouts and assists in total
FACT
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Wow, this is amazingly stupid reasoning
Congrats!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Your troll is big enough to be a final boss.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
ahahahaahahah
Okay, so this is definitely a joke account.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
I’m not sure why anybody engages him anymore at all when he gets this way.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Fred made 9, NINE, fielding errors his whole time on the Giants (about 1960 innings)
That means that per every 217ish innings, he made one fielding error.
Pat the Bat has made 1 fielding error in about 170.
GTFO with that argument
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
He doesn’t even do okay with what he gets to.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
still only 1 throwing error in 24 starts
and less noodly armed than Rowand
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
my high school coach had a saying
the only guys that don’t make errors are the ones that don’t make plays. Pat Burrell is exhibit A.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
you probably didn't know it was spelled with a "C" instead of a "K"
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
You’re a weird dude.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, she is pretty strange
Perhaps you should get another one.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
does you’re ass ever get chapped from all the talking you do out of it?
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
I don’t think he’s even better than FBAL. You’re mistaking lack of dramatically bad plays for actual quality.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
All right then, call up Velez and don't be sorry no matter what.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
no innings cap for Bumgarner
The Giants have no such hard-and-fast rules for Madison Bumgarner. The rookie, 20, will be evaluated from start to start, but manager Bruce Bochy and pitching coach Dave Righetti said there is no cap on his innings.
“He knows where the finish line is,” Righetti said. “He’s had a full season (in the minors). But like any younger guy, you need to keep a close watch on him every game.”
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 10, 2010 10:35 AM PDT reply actions
you tell em
tell em Reg! which mofo pitched da no hitter on fourth of muthaf*(king July? You , das who!
look, it's CashMonay , bitches! you down with da O.P.P... Cash does, give it up !
Lineup
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 10, 2010 12:56 PM PDT reply actions
Oh good, Aaron Rowand is hitting leadoff
That makes sense because the team that loses the most games wins a trophy at the end of the year!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
“Relegation”
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Scott and Nate (!) both made TWIB highlights
Nate had TWO defensive highlights (1 assist, 1 catch)
Scott K’s on the outside slider
(+ extensive use of his miked chit-chat during the Fox Game 2 weeks ago vs Boston)
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
The Stnediserp Award, or something.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Cool Image
Does Posey typically hit cleanup?
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I think he’s been hitting 5th or 6th lately.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 10, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course...
Nads is entrenched in the leadoff spot now that Torres is out. This team is fucked.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Craig Stammen
that’s all i gonna say, Posey , you magnificent bastard, take him deep !No self respecting Giants fan should be happy with anything less than a total annihilation of this joke of a team!
The Giants way!
Between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis, and the rise of the sons of Aryas, there was an age undreamed of. And unto this, Buster Posey, destined to wear the jeweled crown of Aquilonia upon a troubled brow. It is I, his chronicler, who alone can tell thee of his saga. Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!
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I think Zoom has seen The Little Mermaid.
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Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Bork on today's game
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.
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Itz?
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Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
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by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I did not realize that was a real product when I saw it on MAD MEN
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
you can put anything on potato!
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Those are real.
Apparently, these are not.
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Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck you for even suggesting it.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Call the Enquirer!
White-Chez no longer and Item!
Is Buster-Than here to stay?
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
I kinda thought something like this OF alignment was coming. I’m reasonably comfortable with the water buffalo in the corners as long as Torres is in CF.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
They will migrate toward him as to a watering hole.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope he’s okay. I don’t reckon that many people outside of this website recognize how important he’s been to this team this year.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
I’m not. Torres is fast, but he doesn’t have foul line to foul line range.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
And don’t get me wrong. I like the water buffalo bats. I just don’t want both of them in the outfield at the same time. Can’t Huff play 1B or something?
Of course, that means that Rowand has to play. But….
I don’t know anymore.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
why can’t it be a Burrell-Torres-Schierholtz OF with Huff at first?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Who is more likely to sustain their recent production- Burrell or Ishi?
by Into the Void on Jul 10, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
No. Rowand has to play.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d be pretty alright with that.
I imagine that’s what we’ll get when Ishikawa’s pixie dust runs out.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
i don’t understand why Rowand is the default leadoff hitter when Torres is out
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Who’s the better option? Nate? Sanchez?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Anyone.
I’m not being flippant here. I mean any hitter in the lineup. Rowand doesn’t get on base and he’s not fast. He’s not good at anything. He’s the last guy who should be hitting leadoff.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
I’m going with Burrell. For the lulz.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Rowand is pretty good at being an idiot.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
The better question is who isn’t a better option because Rowand gets out more than 70% of the time.
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Anyone.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Heh.
But seriously, who?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Move everybody up a spot.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Anyone with the brain to remember not to swing at a low - and - outside pitch with two strikes.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Schierholtz gets on base more than Rowand and is faster
Sanchez gets on base more than Rowand and is not significantly slower
Posey gets on base way more, which more than nullifies any speed disadvantage
Hell, I’d rather have Ishikawa there.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Sanchez and Uribe have been getting on base this year…. I think I’d go with Uribe. Stops him from hitting into double plays.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Posey.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
sometimes
it seems like MLB managers fill out the positions on the lineup cards first, then decide which players are playing those positions that day.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
Vroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo—
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
That got cut off by a wall.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't understand why Rowand has to be CF even when Torres is healthy
There is no reason to push Torres to a corner when they decide to use Rowand in a game.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
what's this strategy about having Rowand hitting 1st?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
HE HIT LIKE .300 THERE FOR LIKE TWO WEEKS LAST YEAR
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Cool!
Now I have a reason to start drinking early!
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 10, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
terrible idea, i wouldn't condone it
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I don’t follow
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 10, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
don't start drinking early
drinking in general… meh idea
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Still not sure what you mean.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
/takes a shot
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
….
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 10, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
†††
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 10, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
TWSS!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
This 3rd place match is pretty damn good
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 1:10 PM PDT reply actions
LOL Goalies!
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
It was almost spectacular with that last Forlan free kick.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I can’t bring myself to watch battles for third place.
/insert Giants joke here.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Yeah. This is pretty much the first World Cup game that I’ve intentionally missed.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
fraudgers and scrubs on fawx with the greatest broadcasting crew around
Do us a favor fucking worthless cubs, unfortunately the over under on tom gorzelenny walks is 5 and that will be the over :(.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Lilly looked awful yesterday
The Cubs are already waving the white flag.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
OK, Jim Hendry, we get Ted Lilly, Derrek Lee, Aramis Ramirez, and Marlon Byrd, and you get Michael Main. Good? Good.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
me like Derek Lee, good D and good bat , bad year but room for improv
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Totally agree with you.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
i suppose every team could, but i think for us to contend legit with WS aspirations we need two legit bats.
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If that really is true, then it’s time to sell. Legit bats are pricey.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
well, there is always the financial aspect for Sabez, i.e tickets concessions.
But I would sell useful pieces such as Uribe , sanchez…..
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Huff is my big guy for this.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
huff has exceed all expectations, however, i don't think others view him as an impact bat, i could be wrong
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Don't talk to larry baer and bow tie about being sellers
We’re in this thing all the way!!! We’ll be right in the thick of the NL west into September!!!!
(Code word for: We have to put up the image that were are a competitive or we won’t sell tickets or merchandise at the levels we need to!!.)
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
of course, i expect no less, but in my humble opinion, we are two big bat short of playnig with big boyz and i don't mean nlwest
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In the NL, the West leaders are the big boyz.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I think derek lee is still a great player
He’s suffering from baltimoreitus, losing makes good players terrible in a rowand esque fashion.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
He’s suffering from serious batted ball misfortune, which is out of his control. He’ll be back.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
would love Derek Lee, also a guy like luke scott on the orioles , lefty power guy.
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Yeah
Seems to cheat on the fastball every single at bat, looks worse than rowand on sliders and change ups.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
He’s been in real pain all season, and they aren’t sure if surgery can fix it.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
I think the cubs have been mailing it in since early may
Once they saw that aramis ramirez and derek lee wouldn’t hit a combined .300 for the season everyone pretty much gave up. It’s hard to stay confident when you’re battling to stay ahead of Pittsburgh, Houston, and Milwaukee and at least 10 games out of second place. It must be embarrassing to be the biggest joke in the league with the 3rd highest payroll in the majors.. LOL CUBS!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
LOL WALK LOL DINGER
Good thing this guy looked fearless against the giants hanging change ups all day.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
So I guess the remnants of the Grateful Dead are singing the Star Spangled Banner for the Giants on the anniversary of Jerry Garcia’s death.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
/murph and mac light joint
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
The joint is jumpin'
/brushes ashes off lap
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Nick blackburn is 7-6 with a 6.30 era
/matt cain crys
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
MN is sinking fast.
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Yeah
Their pitching is regressing hardcore especially the starting rotation. Blackburn and stowey have been bad all year, but mustache master and Liriano have recently started getting shelled. I still think the twins are the best team in that division, but they are gonna need the pitching to be less diamondback like.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
If Detroit can get another starting pitcher and if they can get Porcello back on track, I like them down the stretch.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Oh, and Brennan Boesch is a freaking beast
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Mcab is the best hitter in AL. but their pitching is suspect, i like Verlander , but that's about it.
i think bonderman will blow up in the second half.
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Scherzer is good.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
yeah u right, i almost forgot about him, but you have be leery of his innings down the stretch
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Also
Bonderman already has a 4.85 ERA and his FIP is much better than that, I’m not sure why you think of him as a candidate to blow up.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
just a hunch
consider bonder had combine of 90 innings in 08 and 09 , i think he will get fatigue and blow up.
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I prefer the Twins. They are raw.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Also, they have that “je ne sais quoi”.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Liriano is the only guy i would think twice in their rotation.
yup, if by regression you mean the rest of the lot has 3rd or 4th starter ceilings at best are now showing it , i agree
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They have an extremely mediocre rotation, although liriano has been a great #1 this year has evidenced by his 4.2 WAR. Mustache man has been a solid #2, but in truth he’s a reliable #3 at best. Blackburn, stowey, and whatever other scrub is their 5th starter are #5 guys for most teams, I imagine they are pretty pissed they didn’t get lee.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Tigers>Twins offensively though
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mm... i say that's a push
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I don’t think so.
Do the Tigers have enough hitters to match up with Span, Hudson, Morneau, Mauer, Cuddyer, and Kubel?
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They aren’t quite as deep an offense as Minnesota, but they have players who have hit comparatively as well as those guys you’ve listed.
Cabrera, Boesch, Ordonez, Guillen, Jackson and Damon are hitting comparatively as well as that group.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I'm still trying to figure out where this kid Boesch came from
all i know is that the dude grew up in LA
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
And he’s been hacktastic all season and continues to make sandoval look like a scrub.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Boesch could very easily suffer the same fate as Sandoval next season.
But he’s been very good so far this year.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I thought he’d drtift into heyward like regression, same with austin jackson. Jackson isn’t the BABIP monster he was when the season started, but he’s still been twice the player the extremely over-rated curtis granderson has been this season. Boesch continues to impress me with his numbers, I had him pegged at .260 12 dingerz 100 K’s by the all star break but he’s done nothing but prove my doubts wrong.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Granderson has a .273 BABIP this year. Jackson is still at a ridiculous .418.
As for Boesch, he’s playing well, but it’s funny that you’re comparing him to Pablo, because I think you could have said a lot of the exact same things about Sandoval last year.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Both Jackson and Granderson start on my fantasy team. Heh.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Yea, very much so
we’ll see how he adjusts through the season and through the offseason
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Well… he’s only hitting from the left side, and he’s got a low walk rate, however it looks like recently they’ve been pitching him very cautiously and just want to walk him
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Mcab is becoming the young manny ramirez
i do not , do not under any circumstances when to Mcab come to the batter box in a clutch situation…. over M&M boys any day.
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what
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
you accidentally a whole miguel cabrera
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I think he means he'd take miggy in any clutch situation over anyone on the twins
And I agree wit that, to bad the giants passed on him.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
When did the Giants pass on him? Miller and Maybin have both been pretty bad, but at the time, they were highly regarded prospects. Which Giants prospects would you have traded for him?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
never mind
my musing on Mcab is in response to MN offense in comparison to Detroit’s … I don’t think the Giants passed it up on him.
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I don’t think they ever even considered trading for him, but I do my best to take shots at the stingy giants as much as possible ever since the failed vlad signing.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
pretty much over anyone in the American Leauge.
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setting aside the obvious hyperbole of this statement, Miguel Cabrera is a career .334 hitter in high leverage (“Clutch”) situations. He’s hitting .354 this year.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
who would you rather have up in the clutch ?
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my bad.
I misread that. I thought you were saying you would take anyone in the AL over Miggy.
He’s pretty much just an awesome hitter all around.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
nah , he is pretty awesome.
always has been, but he is coming into elite territory a la Puhol.
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Why wouldn’t you take the guy who is hitting better than anybody in the league to hit in clutch situations over anybody in the league? That seems like the easiest decision in history.
Well, outside of maybe Morneau.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
stats aside
i just think they aren’t any pitches Miguel can’t handle….. just in watching him play against some of the elite pitcher in AL this year.
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HE CAME FROM CAL!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
YEAH BOY
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
actually had no idea CAL is pretty good at baseball
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Jeff Kent, Tyler Walker, Xavier Nady
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Where did I say that Boesch wasn’t going to bust? I said the Tigers offense to this point hasn’t been much worse than the Twins offense due to those players.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
He doesn’t have to be disagreeing to reply :-)
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
True. But Cookyman is such a disagreeable dude.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
define bust...
in order to be overrated I think the dude has to have a prior rep. Being the that this is his first season and he is charging out of gate with some pretty impressive numbers albeit with low walk rate. I really don’t what his ceiling is. However, watching him swing, i don’t see any obvious flaws ( can get little long) that pitchers can exploit with. in the end , i don’t think he will hit 330 with power all year, but what you consider his ceiling or a mean to regress back to.
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Pablo did the same thing, right? he's a bust?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Yes
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
it's going to be a kick ass run for the division
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
They are both great offenses in my opinion, even if you took all the complimentry players off both teams the M&M brothers and mags and miggy blow away the entire giants line up.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
How’s Swarzak doing?
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Cain+Belt+(???) for Morneau?
If Morneau’s concussion is not something permanently damaging, that is.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
/sabean trades belt and cain for hudson, thome, and nick punto
Got the big bats we needed to finally go over the top!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Here is some good news
extrabaggs
Andres Torres groin strain not bad. He is available to pinch hit.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 2:35 PM PDT reply actions
Rowand is still starting and leading off
So that’s a lot of bad news.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
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Giants GM Brian Sabean said Aubrey Huff has “earned consideration” for a new contract. But no extension talks during the season.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 10, 2010 3:02 PM PDT reply actions
Baggs is on fire
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Bochy met with Pablo Sandoval today, challenged him to pick up his game in second half
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
i agree, light a fire under his ass
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
That would be a huge fire
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
not as much as my fist in yo face
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
did you challenge Panda with a Vege burger or cheeseburger.
look, it's CashMonay , bitches! you down with da O.P.P... Cash does, give it up !
I hope that means he’ll at least consider working the phones concerning the Huff-man.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
/calls Huff with 5 yr/$50M contract
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
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