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Giants/Nationals Series Preview

The last time the Giants saw the Washington Nationals, it was a battle of contenders. No, really. Both teams were a game over .500, and the Nationals were surprising the league with timely hitting and competent pitching. Whereas the Giants are always going to be around .500, kept in place by oppositely placed magnets of hitting suck and pitching triumph, the Nationals were on their way to their natural state, drawn by a magnet of general miserableness. The Nats are now 10 games under .500, and though the record is different, not much has changed since the Giants last saw this team.

Nope. Not much has changed for the Nationals. Same as it ever was.

The Nats’ bullpen is efficient enough, with more than a few good options in the late innings. The lineup has a very good middle of the order with Adam Dunn, Ryan Zimmerman, and Josh Willingham, but the rest of the lineup is mediocre. Livan Hernandez is having a pretty good season despite an ugly strikeout rate, but at this point, he’s almost like a knuckleballer. The regular standards of evaluation might not apply to a guy who throws this much dookie. A dumb team will trade for him at the deadline, hoping he can maintain an ERA under 4.00, so keep rooting for Madison Bumgarner to succeed.

But that’s about it. Same old Nationals

Hitter to watch

Ryan Zimmerman is a hitter and fielder on the rise! One of these days, he’ll put all of his tools to use and make an All-Star Game. He has a ways to go before he’s as deliciously versatile as Omar Infante, but don’t give up on this guy. He’ll come through. Rising star, I tell you..

...

Charlie Manuel is an idiot. An arrogant idiot who as a child was locked in a closet and beaten with wrench-filled pillowcases by a young third baseman, creating the psychic scars that led to him leaving Pablo Sandoval off the roster last year and Zimmerman off this year. Seriously, screw that guy.

Pitcher to watch

Let’s see...no one’s coming to mind. Well, there was that first-round pick from last year’s draft. He’s pretty exciting. Yes, Drew Storen is already in the majors, and though he’s having a little control wonkiness, he’s a talented pitcher worth watching. Actually, I was being sarcastic with the first sentence. There are a couple of other pitchers to watch. Tyler Walker is still one of my favorites, even if he was the living incarnation of heartburn. Tyler Clippard has more wins than Matt Cain, Barry Zito, and Jonathan Sanchez, which must mean he’s better. Maybe he can give a seminar in the offseason on how to win.

Prediction

Oh, I don’t know. It’s the Nationals. With all due respect, they’re just a little boring. They could use a star player or two aside from Zimmerman to spice things up. I guess most teams could.

Also, there’s this:

Star-divide

 

 

 

 

 

 


Stephen Strasburg

#37 / Pitcher / Washington Nationals

6-4

220

R

R

Jul 20, 1988


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Buster Posey

#28 / Catcher / San Francisco Giants

6-2

205

R

R

Mar 27, 1987


 

So watch out for that, too.

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Per Rosenthal

#Giants not ready to act on C. Hart. Would rather give up prospects rather than an SP such as J. Sanchez. Also prefer LHH. #Brewers #MLB

No Hart! Keep Dirty!

by TBRMKane on Jul 9, 2010 10:50 AM PDT reply actions  

All reasonable and competent statements

I want Hart, but JSanch is probably too much.

My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.

by GiantPain on Jul 9, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want Hart too...

Just not Corey Hart, maybe Brett Hart, or a heart of gold. That actually sounds reasonable, did someone kidnap Sabean?

by Giant Torture on Jul 9, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

aka Bret Harte?

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by nogooddeed on Jul 9, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

or

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please be afraid of the guy in shades.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hell yeah.

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jeff Fletcher wrote something about how the Giants might be interested in Weeks, and would move Franchez to 3B and Pablo to 1B so Weeks could play 2B. Is that guy just stupid?

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d certainly be interested in Weeks. I don’t know what I’d give for him, but I’d certainly be interested in listening if Milwaukee wanted to discuss it.

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by Roger on Jul 9, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d prefer to get Weeks instead of somebody that will only be here for weeks. I guess we’ll find out in the coming weeks. This lineup might look very different in a matter of weeks if we do get Weeks. We might even have a chance to play a few more weeks into October. It all depends on whether we can get weeks in the new few weeks.

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by jctGamer on Jul 9, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wee kan weekly tweak and seek answers to whether Weeks will be here in a week.

He won’t?

Weak.

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by breadfan7 on Jul 9, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weeks and Hart might make me most interested. I don’t want Fielder, but outside of him, I don’t know what the market is for left-handed power bats, so, two above average offensive players at possibly “need” positions on the Giants would suffice.

by Every6thDay on Jul 9, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure this has been mentioned, but...

Giants should sign Carlos Delgado. Sabez claims budget isn’t an issue, and pursuing him would allow us to keep our undervalued youth while obtaining a power-lefty 1B.

by GrooveGiant on Jul 9, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dude had a clank-mitt even when he was healthy, which he isn’t. Let him shake off the rust on an AL team.

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by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Personally, I’d rather the Giants sign Delgado with his poor defense than Sabean pursue a trade.

by GrooveGiant on Jul 9, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not me. I’d rather, for instance, trade Thomas Neal for David DeJesus than sign Delgado.

I’m mostly in the stand-pat line right now, though.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Brewers Give Away Their Hart; Get Dirty Sanchez in Return

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on Jul 9, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

PLEASE KEEP DRY HUMPING!

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Jul 9, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

TWSS

Lars fail

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

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by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure she didn’t say that.

Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 9, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hart for Sanchez, prospects for Lilly

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by shahbazi3 on Jul 9, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can Strasburg hit oppo dingerz? Case closed.

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 10:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Do you mean Oppo Grand Slams?

RIB EYEZ!

Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

by Cody_ransom on Jul 9, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Strasburg will pitch one game; Posey will play three at two different positions. There ya go…

by revdmv on Jul 9, 2010 10:55 AM PDT reply actions  

I thought that picture of the fighting squirrels (?) was the best I’d ever seen, until I scrolled down.

by GrooveGiant on Jul 9, 2010 10:55 AM PDT reply actions  

I think they’re mice

by joethejet on Jul 9, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuk for Row?

Cubs are overseeing a search for Kosuke Fukudome deal, a way to move the outfielder and the $20 m. still owed to him

by TBRMKane on Jul 9, 2010 10:56 AM PDT reply actions  

Probably not

The Cubs wouldn’t want a more expensive OF for Fukudome.

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by Gobroks on Jul 9, 2010 11:00 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don’t know. As much as I would like to get rid of Rowand, is Fukudome even a good fit? He’s not a good CF, so he’s stuck in a corner, and how does that help?

Chicago still likes Rowand – gritty! – and he was the starting CF for the 2005 White Sox, but they want Colvin in the lineup with Byrd and Soriano. Byrd has also been a good CF according to UZR, so it’s not as if they need Rowand.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fukudome for Rowand

But they’d have to throw in Zambrano and pay the salaries of all three. Plus toss in the rights to Landon Donovan and David Villa.

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by Giantsfan4life on Jul 9, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, it helps because he’s got a really good OBP, and is a good fielder in RF. Basically, Randy Winn 2.0. And, I mean, I don’t see why we need a CF, Torres can play it better than anyone we’d get anyway. Fukudome is expensive, so he’s not worth giving up much for, but if the Cubs are really just trying to get rid of him, I wouldn’t mind trying to get him. If they’re willing to take Rowand for him, obviously that’s a crazy steal for us. If not, depends on how much of the contract they’d be willing to eat, if at all.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’d be nice to have two players who can play CF.

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by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fukudome can play CF – just not very well.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least Rowand can play CF for those times that Torres is in RF or moves over when Burrell is taken out. Fukudome is an expensive corner 4th OF who shouldn’t be playing over Burrell, Huff, or Bowker.

That said, I’d still trade Rowand for him. Cuz yeah, Rowand sucks.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it’s silly/dumb to play Rowand in center and Torres in right. Bochy should not keep doing this.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 9, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

Would mean that Bork wasn’t an idiot, which he is.

by Giant Torture on Jul 9, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bochy is fucking nuts

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by nogooddeed on Jul 9, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

WEll how else does one break those shells?

Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%

Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.

by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

But..Torres is only in RF because Rowand plays. He should always be in CF.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean, what does this mean?

At least Rowand can play CF for those times that Torres is in RF or moves over when Burrell is taken out

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sometimes Burrell gets a defensive replacement. Let’s say Torres is in CF. He moves to LF to replace Burrell and Rowand comes in to CF. Or Torres moves to RF, Huff to LF, Rowand to CF.

The point is that BORK is always going to put Rowand in CF, so Torres has to move.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

And how is that relevant if to a Fokudome trade?

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bah.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t that some kind of vibrator?

Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 9, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was a sports complex with a great name

The Fuck You Dome!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Two enter.
One leave.

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Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.

by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hot DP action!

Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Jul 9, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, if Fukudome were actually traded for Rowand, which I can’t see happening at all, then it wouldn’t. But then there would be no backup CF for Torres.

Of course, Fukudome can fake CF, but that worked out poorly for the Cubs. So say hello to more FBAL VROOOOM!

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

NATE

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on Jul 9, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

But even if he’s not traded for Rowand, how is it relevant? If Rowand isn’t playing, Torres plays CF. If Rowand is playing, Rowand plays CF. I don’t understand what’s the problem here.

If he is traded for Rowand, meh. Not having a good backup CF isn’t exactly a tragedy. Especially when you have good fielding corner OF (not Burrell, but Schierholtz and Fukudome).

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

It just doesn’t seem to help the team that much. He’s not a big bat and he’s not a SS, so what’s the point other than having another 4th OF type and getting rid of Rowand?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s not a big bat and he’s not a SS

It is, in fact, possible to be a pretty good player without fitting one of these two descriptions. He’s a solid OF. We don’t have 3 solid OF. I’m far from sure that we even have 2.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nate Schierholtz

Speed, arm, ball judgement, yes; experience, little or none. Would I do it? In a heartbeat; not for every day, but as needed.

Professional baseball analyst since 1980.

by owlcroft on Jul 9, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

Huff is a 1B, he’s not relevant. Burrell can play in LF with Fokudome RF.

And as for Bowker, I think even the more optimistic Bowkermaniacs don’t expect him to beat Fokudome’s line by much, and he’s a significantly inferior fielder.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Bowker could kill Fukudome’s line if given a legitimate chance. Plus, Bowker isn’t a bad fielder.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bowker is an OK fielder. Fukudome is one of the best RF in the majors.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Charlie Manuel is an idiot. An arrogant idiot who as a child was locked in a closet and beaten with wrench-filled pillowcases by a young third baseman, creating the psychic scars that led to him leaving Pablo Sandoval off the roster last year and Zimmerman off this year. Seriously, screw that guy.

This. I hate that idiot and wish he would burst into flames.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 10:57 AM PDT reply actions  

That quote where he was all, “he’s my guy” in response to questions about choosing Howard over Votto made me stabby.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I do like watching his press conferences.

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on Jul 9, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Manuel needs to disappear from baseball.

by Unitard on Jul 9, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

FOGHORN!

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by satyricrash on Jul 9, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

This. I hate that idiot and wish he would burst into flames.

Do you mean like this

Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

by Cody_ransom on Jul 9, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

This explains a lot...

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?

by tobias on Jul 9, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

and some thought the potato bug pictures were gross

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

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by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well his decisions played a part in his team not getting home-field advantage in the Series last year, for what that’s worth

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by Useful_Idiot on Jul 9, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 10:57 AM PDT reply actions  

I’m pretty sure Johnny Roseboro should have a Dodgers hat on in that last picture.

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by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 10:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Strasburg = Cain'd
Strasburg (2-2, 2.45 ERA) is 0-2 with a 2.59 ERA and 31 strikeouts in 24 1/3 innings over his last four starts since beating Cleveland on June 13. The right-hander has received one total run of support in that stretch, and none for three straight games.

"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES

by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jul 9, 2010 10:59 AM PDT reply actions  

I can only conclude that facing Cain off against his long lost son will lead to weirdness.

I’m calling Rowand’s game winning granny right here.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Jul 9, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aubrey Huff goes deep twice tonight

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on Jul 9, 2010 11:00 AM PDT reply actions  

yes, but will he hit any homeruns?

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by Merope on Jul 9, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey-Yo!

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on Jul 9, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sheesh, the way he's been hitting, I practically EXPECT him to.

Yes, Strasburg is a talented young man, but as Cain has already proved time and again, you can be a kickass pitcher and still lose games.

Do I fear his pitching? Yes.

Am I worried the moment he can’t pitch any more because it’s the top of the 13th and he and Matt have both pitched 12 innings? Nope.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Jul 9, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

VETERAN GRIT ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED!

by diffra on Jul 9, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE

slowly dying, one giants game at a time

by SirPsycoSexy on Jul 9, 2010 11:00 AM PDT reply actions  

/clears throat

Posey: 42/125, 19r, 6hr, 20rbi, .903 OPS
Santana: 24/84, 14r, 5hr, 16rbi, 1.008 OPS

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Santana is awesome, but he’s only a quarter as dreamy.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

The stench of being drafted by the Dodgers never goes away.

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or wait…not drafted, signed.

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t it be incredible if Santana had stayed on the Dodgers, and the Santana/Posey parallel were happening to the Giants and Dodgers at the same time?

I’m REALLY glad they got rid of him, but that would have made for a cool story.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’ve thought about that and agree that it would have been fun to see their careers in closer parallel. Kinda like what we’ve witnessed with Billingsley and Cain.

I like Santana’s game a lot.

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno, I think that adds to his charm. The more awesome he becomes, the more we can taunt Dodgers fans about it. It’s a nice little comeback to any mention of “The Trade That Shall Not Be Named.”

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jul 9, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I do enjoy that aspect of it. Ned is so awesome.

I feel prickishly demanding!

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by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 9, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t they trade him for Casey Blake? Dude has been pretty good for them.

by GrooveGiant on Jul 9, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but that’s like trading Bill Mueller for Joe Mauer.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s like trading six cost-controlled years of Joe Mauer for three months of Bill Mueller. Blake was a rental that they signed to a three-year deal after the season, which they very well could have done if they had waited a few months for him to hit FA.

Goodbye, Steven Johnson, we hardly knew ye. Seriously, that was short.

by quincy0191 on Jul 9, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

If reports are to be believed the trade would’ve gone through fine without Santana, but the Dodgers kicked him in to convince the Indians to pay the remaining $2 million on his contract. Being cheaper than the Indians FTW!

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jul 9, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is the golden age of catching prospects. Posey, Santana, Montero (the Yankee/Mariners one), Wieters (if he ever comes around), Castro…

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Almost-jinx.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Jacks Williams love? :(

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I totally submitted it at the same time your comment popped up!

For some reason it took a long time to go through.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

WWSST?

My Bucardo is better than yours.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Jul 9, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jackson Williams is dreamy.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

um, speaking of which

I just checked how he was doing. Apparently he is/was in Fresno now!?

His line there: .105 / .217 / .158

How the everloving fuck did he get promoted!? At Richmond, he was .192 / .317 / .280!

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Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Buster Posey! When he left, they brought up Williams.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Poor Steve Holm.

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Williams appears to be getting the majority of the starts, too. :(

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clearing the way for Matt Klimas

Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster

by Gobroks on Jul 9, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nestor Rojas was there for a while before they brought up Williams.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s terrible, but probably better than Jacks.

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

.238 / .258 / .286 in Fresno.

.313 / .353 / .313 in Richmond right now.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is on the Bocock path

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

This might be my favorite series preview ever.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 11:07 AM PDT reply actions  

Agreed

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on Jul 9, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Highlander!!!

Greatest series preview ever!

by WorldBTom on Jul 9, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is the type of quality reporting that keeps me coming back to this site.

Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis.

by j14 on Jul 9, 2010 11:08 AM PDT reply actions  

LOL Grant

Strasburg vs. Cain…all rational Giants fans would say we lose 1-0. I predict we kick some Strass and win 6-3 and keep this nice little run going.

Back on the market.

by positiveuphemism on Jul 9, 2010 11:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Fine with me. We beat Halladay, why not Strasburg?

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget Ubaldo.

by GrooveGiant on Jul 9, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

And Whineright.

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's facts like these that give me hope.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Jul 9, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

We could win 1-0?

Like every game in the World Cup

Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!

by Giantsfan4life on Jul 9, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

and maybe Werth too!

Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels

by capn on Jul 9, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh. Don’t you think with 29 other GMs in the game one would eventually stand up and say, “no, I’m not going to send another one of the best players in the game to them”? I guess if Zduriencik can take them to the cleaners it’s all for the best.

by Monkeyking42 on Jul 9, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

In his position, if I could get Montero for half a year of Cliff Lee, I’d absolutely make that deal.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jul 9, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

In a second. Good deal for the Mariners.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 9, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

it’s a great deal for the M’s, but it still does not make it right that the Yankees can do this.

Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels

by capn on Jul 9, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, it only increases my burning, fiery hatred of the Yankees. I hope Lee signs elsewhere and the Yankees’ compensation picks flame out after securing big signing bonuses.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 9, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

there is no way the Yankees do not re-sign him. Who else is going to outbid them?

Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels

by capn on Jul 9, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I know. But I can dream, right?

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 9, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

of course! otherwise, the image of dudes in pinstripes hoisting the WS trophyevery fall is going to get very boring

Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels

by capn on Jul 9, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, with Sabathia and Lee plus that line-up, they’re going to be tough to beat in the playoffs. Seriously, fuck the Yankees.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 9, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

agreed- fuck ’em

Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels

by capn on Jul 9, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Poor Cleveland. LOL!

by Hobbes2d on Jul 9, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

the Giants could do this

if they had not given money to Zito, Renteria, and Rowand. It’s true they have money to throw at everything that ails them, but it’s also true that they usually throw it at good players (Porkins and other injury-makers notwithstanding).

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

LMAO DeRosa

The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent

by hokysmksbw on Jul 9, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know, at this point I think I’m almost rooting for them to collect every All Star out there— that way, there will be a real push from small market teams for a salary cap and maybe MLB will have to follow through and get some parity up in here.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jul 9, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

baseball's never bothered before

I don’t know that they’ll bother now. They make money off the Yankees too, and absent a salary floor they’ll keep doing so.

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

They make money off of the Yankees to a point, but I think they lose interest (naturally) when any one team or set of teams become too dominant. Just look at the NFL— the salary cap made it so just about any team could compete if run competently and they’ve basically been RAKING in the cash ever since.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jul 9, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

not just salary tax

but money from the TV deals, etc. which is all bloated by ESPN/Fox YankeeSawxVision. And I don’t think, say, Jeffrey Loria worries more about his team competing than his team turning a profit. And he’s not alone.

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Will "The Final Countdown" be playing in the background?

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Jul 9, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nope, pretty much just "Flash" by Queen.

Hey Sandoval, mix in a salad. Everyone else, mix in a walk.

by Woody'sShed on Jul 9, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

“He will save everyone one of us!”

Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%

Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.

by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd love an army of Hawkmen

Or is that an air force?

Hey Sandoval, mix in a salad. Everyone else, mix in a walk.

by Woody'sShed on Jul 9, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tears. My eyes. Simply beautiful.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 9, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Buster: Fuck you.

Awesome.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Glorious...

Words… they escape me… joy… it consumes me.

by Every6thDay on Jul 9, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well done, nerd. :)

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Holy fuck.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow...

I laughed, I cried, I mostly laughed. Also, why wasn’t Bochy and Sabean included in that trade along with Zito?

by Giant Torture on Jul 9, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s the last sentence that got to me

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by Giantsfan4life on Jul 9, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

This was pretty cool.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of the most epic things I've seen on this site.

Thanks!

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Jul 9, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Jul 9, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Texas needs a caddy/platoon partner for Julio Borbon. I wonder if they’ll give us another questionable prospect if we pay Rowand’s salary this year?

Maybe cash and Rowand to the Nats for Lannan? Lannan has serious problems and DC has a bunch of pitchers coming back from the DL.

Aw fuck it. there’s no getting rid of Rowand.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 11:28 AM PDT reply actions  

There's still Cubs for Zambrano

 But that’s a horrible deal. If I’ve learned one lesson in my 54 years on earth it’s this: crazy people are best avoided.

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by Giantsfan4life on Jul 9, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rowand for Zambrano straight up? I would do that in a second, even with the extra $$ and possible vesting option in 2013 for Zambrano.

Zambrano is still only 29, has a good K/9 and decent K/BB, has a terrible BABIP, would be going to a better pitcher’s park, with a better overall defense, and with a manager who isn’t as crazy as Piniella.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, and Rowand is falling off the cliff useless.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

noooooooooooooo

loonies

I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson

by nogooddeed on Jul 9, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would make this trade, though it would make me nervous. Rowand basically isn’t going to help this team anymore. Zambrano? Maybe… he could still turn it around I think. Plus this would basically free us to turn around and trade Sanchez+Prospects for a corner bat (pleasegodnotcoreyhart)

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jul 9, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Large boulder like skull mummers about needing more 2nd basemen.

Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%

Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.

by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

THIS PREVIEW IS AWESOME!

by Unitard on Jul 9, 2010 11:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Any McC going to these games?

I’ll be there Sat / Sun

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on Jul 9, 2010 11:32 AM PDT reply actions  

I’m going tonight and tomorrow.

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

EAST COAST ELITE!

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on Jul 9, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you in DC or VA? I always forget.

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on Jul 9, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

San Francisco. But in Georgetown for the weekend!

I have no idea where I’m sitting, but I’m told they’re good seats.

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dedication!

Are you there just for the Giants?

6/30/10- The Beginning of a New Era

by Bballpitcher2 on Jul 9, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m just here for the weather. :)

Actually, I’m in DC for work but am hanging out with a good college friend (and fellow Giants fan) this weekend. Should be fun.

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's awesome

I was reversed this year, in DC for work and visiting a friend from high school while the Nats came to SF. The same friend (who also grew up in CA as a Giants fan) just flew into CA last night. Poor scheduling.

Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis.

by j14 on Jul 9, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Aaagh, why must it be SOOOOO hard to plan these work trips around baseball, right?

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you going to any of the games this weekend?

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wish

but being in CA makes that a little difficult. I only make it out to DC for two weeks a year.

Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis.

by j14 on Jul 9, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gotcha, thought you were still in DC.

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Doh. Thought you were an east coaster

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on Jul 9, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe because I’m always talking about my weird Mets, Yankees and Sox loving relatives? My family is from the Northeast.

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I will. My D50 is charged and ready to go.

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on Jul 9, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

All three, hopefully

We should coordinate and meet up tomorrow. I haven’t bought tickets yet for sat/sun.

My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.

by GiantPain on Jul 9, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll be there Saturday night. Remote possibility for Sunday but I probably won’t be able to make it.

Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.

by neurofarm on Jul 9, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Strasburg: "FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFf"

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on Jul 9, 2010 11:39 AM PDT reply actions  

SHIFT-A

Hey Hokey Smokes, please no JFK morgue shots for the Gorecast.

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Jul 9, 2010 11:43 AM PDT reply actions  

IAWTC

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Man, you visual types even think ahead visually! Listen to him, hoky(….and something w, m, x).

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve always thought it was honkey tonks bbw

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Jul 9, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Big booty?

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 9, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Big Booty Bitches, Bitches!

BBB

The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent

by hokysmksbw on Jul 9, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, no, it’s Big Boo-tay.

Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Jul 9, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck.

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Jul 9, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s something wrong with this thread. I don’t see anything about LeBron James in it.

by Evan on Jul 9, 2010 11:53 AM PDT reply actions  

LaBron’s a pussy, what’s to say?

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by Giantsfan4life on Jul 9, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t there a Nationals fan here earlier this year?

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Jul 9, 2010 11:55 AM PDT reply actions  

Yep.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

He seemed pretty cool, actually.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Jul 9, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

big rotating blades

I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson

by nogooddeed on Jul 9, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Propellering

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

They have fans?

Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis.

by j14 on Jul 9, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

I’ve seen both of them.

by Giant Torture on Jul 9, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I actually saw a guy in a Marlins hat the other day.

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just can't wait for the Rays/A's to move to Portland

Go Beavers!
/lunatic laugh

6/30/10- The Beginning of a New Era

by Bballpitcher2 on Jul 9, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The first time that Portland team gets blown out

I want the headline to read, “Beavers get pounded”.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

I would frame that headline, right next to the write up my wife found the other day of the “Peter-Johnson Wedding”.

by Giant Torture on Jul 9, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

My wife came across a funny headline online the other day: “Tired Gay Succumbs to Dix in 200 Meters.”

It was about track and field.

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

there you go

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Jul 9, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Beavers Get Pounded
No One At Game To See It!!

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Jul 9, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pics or it didn't happen?

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Jul 9, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

But he was homeless, they have to give those away to someone. Why are you begrudging a homeless guy a hat to cover his head?

by Giant Torture on Jul 9, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

he was homeless and talking to God

God is named Albert, it turns out

The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent

by hokysmksbw on Jul 9, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Krukow always likes to say “There are Giants fans here” as if Giants are one of the most popular teams when you will find fans of every team on the road. I’ve seen Royals, Nationals and Orioles fans at AT&T.

Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Jul 10, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was the guy that writes for Federal Baseball

Souldrummer (or something like that)

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

still gets my vote

for coolest drop-in from another board.

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

seconded

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Jul 9, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, maybe I can actually watch some of these games!

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 11:58 AM PDT reply actions  

What this Buster vs Strasburg rookie matchup reminds me of

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZJywaVhj5Q

This was the first thing that came to mind.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Jul 9, 2010 11:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Federal Baseball calls Strasburg day, Strasmas. I love it.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 9, 2010 12:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Torres cf, F. Sanchez 2b, Huff rf, Burrell lf, Posey c, Sandoval 3b, Ishikawa 1b, Renteria ss, Cain p

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 12:03 PM PDT reply actions  

not bad

Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels

by capn on Jul 9, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rather see Nate than Ishi, just because of the D in the OF. Those two at the same time hurt you.

by joethejet on Jul 9, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

But Nate sucks, while Ishi is great with the glove and is actually hitting very well.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

C’mon, you know they’re basically the same.

by Evan on Jul 9, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK, done!

Nearly the same age, comparable minor-league records, similarly feeble big-league batting lines, good defense either way … what’s the difference?

by Evan on Jul 9, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ishikawa does have 16 points of OBP and 10 points of SLG in his big-league line over Schierholtz – not huge, but significant.

Plus, Ishikawa is less likely to cost Bowker a roster spot. That’s big.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Schierholtz is more valuable defensively.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not good enough to make up for the big advantage in Bowker’s bat (the “if Bowker got a real chance division”)

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone concerned about Bowker’s AAA splits against LHP? .206/.325./.353/.678. Maybe it doesn’t matter because his numbers against RHP are insane, and Bork probably wouldn’t start him against LHP, anyway.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would take a platoon. Still, he killed AAA LHP pitching last year in a small sample size. He was also great in 2007 in AA against LHP.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish I shared your optimism. Bowker only had one really good year in his career, and it was in the PCL, as a 25 year old (almost 26), after he had spent the prior year in the majors. It’s hard to get too excited about that.

Anyway, Burrell is probably gone after this year. So Bowker and Fukudome could both play in 2011.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

.307 / .363 / .523 while playing in Norwich doesn’t count as “good”?

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

.308/.365/.529 in AA in 2007 in his age-23 season. That’s sweet at Dodd.

Yeah, there’s a chance he never makes it, but the Ginats Brasz needs to stop ignoring his AAA numbers. He also completely reversed his K rate and BB rate – it’s not as if he’s Dallas McPherson or Joe Frickin’ Borchard.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd say it's pretty good

Impressive power. But the walk rate was very low, and the K rate was too high for a 23.9 year old in AA. And AAA numbers from guys who have already been to the majors (and who are too old to be in the minors) can be very deceiving.

I’m not at all against giving Bowker a chance to be a full time start next year, but I wouldn’t count on him becoming such a good hitter.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

In Fresno this year, he has 14 walks and 23 strikeouts in 120 ab’s — unimpressive.

I’m certain that he’s a better hitter than he’s shown in the majors thus far, but his AAA line in 2009 really looks like a career peak rather than a new level of performance.

by Evan on Jul 9, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, but it’s addition by subtraction. getting Huff out of the OF is a BIG gain. Nate and Ishi are both good on D, but RF is more important than 1b. AND, Huff is WAAY better at 1b than RF.

by joethejet on Jul 9, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bowker is not a right fielder

he’s a left fielder

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by nogooddeed on Jul 9, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

hankschulman
  
I’m here in the nation’s sweat box with some news: Runzler is going on the DL with Joe Martinez called up to replace him.

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 12:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Yay Joey

Fuck…

6/30/10- The Beginning of a New Era

by Bballpitcher2 on Jul 9, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

We need a loogy

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by capn on Jul 9, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think we should've called up another position player

we don’t need an 8 man pen

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by Gobroks on Jul 9, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, to be fair, with Denny Bautista, it’s really a 7-man pen.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

/Bochy gives him 2 innings

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

//Bochy brings him in with bases loaded

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do not understand this, especially with Uribe all banged up.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

"GET ME NEIFI PEREZ'S AGENT, STAT!"

- Sabean

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

No one should pay attention to me, though, because of my crazy RyRohl crusade.

But, I don’t get why people think we need Bowker. The OF is already plenty crowded.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your RyRohl crusade does not trouble me nearly as much as your jinxing powers....

…but we love you all the same.

Actually, that’s not true. The McCoven has a pretty broad spectrum of “love,” ranging from one’s affection for melted ice cream to UNF-UNF-UNF leg humping.

Perhaps the typical McCoven puts you somewhere in between as “friendly person of enjoyable, intelligent opinions about SF Giants baseball.”

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Jul 9, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bowker moves Huff back to 1B. That’s good. He brings Bowkermania. That’s better.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess we just have to hope that Uribe gets healthy, like, yesterday, because as of right now the Giants have no back up SS.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

WTF, ROHLINGER!!!!

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was that her name? I can’t remember exactly.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was. Still is, I guess.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m just saying…

/SO I’M NOT SAYING?

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

RAGE!!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least I anticipated it.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

TWSS!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well played.

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by breadfan7 on Jul 9, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, more like well stroked.

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Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.

by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

OH MY

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

part credit please...

At least i didn say " Fisted!" like certain announcers do now days.

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by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe?

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably Sanchez at SS if they need someone. He’s played their as recently as 07.

I’m saying Bowker for Bautista after the break. Long roadie = need for more pitchers plus, this way Bowker can hit over the AS break.

by joethejet on Jul 9, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uribe should be on the freaking DL and he should have been on the freaking DL when he first got injured.

Don't get it?
Try FAQ or FAQII

by Merope on Jul 9, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, please.

I hate how they do this.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

TWSS

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by zenbitz on Jul 9, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Bowker came up, he’d be a bench player. He wouldn’t move anyone anywhere because, you know, Bruce Bochy.

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by groug on Jul 9, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm....

I don’t know, left handed bat with power. Nah, the Giants don’t need one of those. Plus we all would like to know if he’s a major leaguer or a 4A player, sadly this will most likely not happen barring injuries as long as Bork is employed.

by Giant Torture on Jul 9, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m just talking about immediate needs. I love Bowker. I just think the team has more pressing needs right now. I do want to see him. And, yeah, there’s also the fact that he probably won’t play.

/waits for Huff to start at SS, because he’s the best athlete on the team.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Left handed bat with power

I’ll say it again, left handed bat with power. Before Sabean goes and trades Cain for Fielder, don’t you think they should find out what they have in John Bowker?

by Giant Torture on Jul 9, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you purposely misreading my posts?

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm reading them

And there most pressing need is a left handed bat with power, that is outside of a new manager.

by Giant Torture on Jul 9, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would like another utility infielder who can play SS as long as Uribe is hurt. That. is. all.

I think we have a different interpretation of “immediate,” but please don’t attribute to me things I didn’t say.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

/ looks at Rick Rhol errmm the temperary infield spare

how about that one?

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by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

What did I attribute to you that you didn’t say? Also, should Uribe or Renteria go on the DL, they can in fact call someone up from AAA.

by Giant Torture on Jul 9, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

That I somehow don’t think Bowker deserves a chance, that I don’t think the team could use a left handed bat with power, etc. Or, at least that’s what I understood through all the sarcasm.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Snachez can play SS.

by joethejet on Jul 9, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really? Who’s going to play 2B, then? Isn’t Uribe also the back up second baseman?

/obviously needs to look at the depth chart

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

BUSTER POSEY DUH

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or Whiteside. He’s so quick, I’m sure he could play middle infield.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

He played SS in college!

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

and Down

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Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.

by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

whith bochey maybe even Whiteside!

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by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

VVVRRRRRRRROOOOOOOMMMMMMMM!!

Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis.

by j14 on Jul 9, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

The return of Zorak!!

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by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t even go there!

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh, yeah. Good point. Guess they’re carrying only three non-1b infielders right now (not counting Uribe). Probably would be Posey as stated below.

by joethejet on Jul 9, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vizquel just committed errors in consecutive games for the first time since 2004, incidentally.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Bowkermania?

needz hittaz, not hurlaz

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by hokysmksbw on Jul 9, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was Joey on the 40-man roster?

I find it curious that they would still go with 13 pitchers when they need more bench help as long as Uribe isn’t 100%. Of course, it’s only for 3 days until the ASB, but still . . . .

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by Al Rosen on Jul 9, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have you heard that Bumgarner can hit?

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yay Joey....

Fuck Sabean, what the hell is wrong with that guy. They need bats, just call up Joey and Bowker and trade Bautista to someone in the Mexican League.

by Giant Torture on Jul 9, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joey's here to make the start for Bumgarner Sunday

after we trade him for Corey Hart obviously

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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by jctGamer on Jul 9, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

pretty much this

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe....

If we assume that it will happen and talk about it enough that will keep the Giants from trading for Hart.

by Giant Torture on Jul 9, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

didn’t work with Freddy Sanchez :(

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by jctGamer on Jul 9, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, I thought most of the McCoven wanted Freddy Sanchez. It just never occurred to anyone that Sabez would be silly enough to trade Alderson for him.

by taliesin on Jul 9, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly right.

Getting Sanchez = good. Trading Alderson for Sanchez = bad.

by Cheeeese! on Jul 9, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guess you haven't

looked at Alderson’s numbers this year. I honestly think we may have traded high on this guy.

Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.

by AXmrdrir on Jul 9, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

nah

Trading high on him would’ve been trading him prior to the 2009 season. His stock had already fallen a fair amount before we traded him.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t want him because he’s always hurt and outside of his batting average, there’s nothing spectacular about his hitting. Now that he’s on the team, I’m annoyed that he cost so much (I thought Alderson would’ve fetched more; the money, too!), his hitting has been consistently “not noticeably awful” and his defense has been above average. A bad signing because of the $$ and prospect, but a good guy to have on the team. I’d still take Weeks over him, though, and some infield musical chairs to keep both he and Freddy in the lineup wouldn’t be the worst. But, at this point, Huff really should be at 1B… which means Pablo gets to ride some pine or play more catcher… of course, neither of this will happen.

by Every6thDay on Jul 9, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand it seemed questionable at the time, but it’s not as if Alderson has been any good. Now Scott Barnes for Garko? THAT was bad. At least Sanchez is in the starting lineup (finally) and is a decent player. Garko was an absolutely colossal waste.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, in retrospect, Alderson’s sucked, but at the time he was the team’s third-best prospect, so it seemed crazy to trade him for two months of Freddy Sanchez. And the Barnes trade also doesn’t look too bad in retrospect (so far, both he and Alderson are reasonably young), but again trading a good prospect for a mediocre player.

Personally, the midseason deals last year were bad enough that I hope the Giants never do anything at the deadline again as long as Sabean is still GM.

by taliesin on Jul 9, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, the Barnes trade still looks just as retarded as it did before. He has 8.74 K/9 in AA as a 22 year old LHP. That’s at least interesting, and if he doesn’t end up a big-league starter – even in the back-end of the rotation – he has a pretty good shot at being a cost-controlled cheap lefty in the pen, and even LOOGYs have value to the big-league club (see Runzler injury).

Garko sucked turds for the Giants and now has a .794 OPS in AAA in a hitter’s league. That was as stupid a trade as they come.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Barnes trade looks possibly worse than before, considering Garko has flamed out of the league entirely and Barnes is looking useful in AA.

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has Barnes been good? I just looked and his WHIP is 1.46 with an ERA well over 5. In a pitcher’s league. Granted, he throws with his left arm, but… What am I missing?

by taliesin on Jul 9, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

And he’s fairly young.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

His FIP is like 2 points lower than his ERA

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by Gobroks on Jul 9, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

So he’s had bad luck this year. OK. You’ve convinced me. Sabean is dumb.

by taliesin on Jul 9, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rangers considering calling up Garko

ha ha

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by nogooddeed on Jul 9, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is this Ryan Garko?

Is your refrigerator running? /click

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

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by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was really for acquiring Freddy Sanchez until we found out who we traded for him :(

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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same here

Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster

by Gobroks on Jul 9, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

DAMN JOEY!!!!!

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Josh Phelps sighting

Wasn’t he one of the McCoven’s white whales? He blasted a shot last night at this game I attended in fabulous Bridgeport, CT. Take a look at the rosters: Hiram Bocachica, Antonio Alfonseca. Wily Mo Pena (another white whale) and Serra High School’s own Dan Serafini.

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by Giant Fan in Singapore on Jul 9, 2010 12:07 PM PDT reply actions  

He played for the Columbus Clippers for a while earlier this year, and he looked horrible.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t he turn on Ethan Hunt in the first Mission Impossible?

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by 49er16 on Jul 9, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he had never been injured, we would never had gotten Garko

Most likely (since they are/were similar players)

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

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by baetown415 on Jul 9, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lineup

Torres cf
F. Sanchez 2b
Huff rf
Burrell lf
Posey c
Sandoval 3b
Ishikawa 1b
Renteria ss
Cain p

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 12:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Ooops, sorry, missed the one above.

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

S’ok. This one is easier to digest.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was that a Bengie joke?

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not a bad lineup

I’m happy I will at least be able to yell at Rent in person tonight…

by DFARowand on Jul 9, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beware:

The Buster.

Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

by Cody_ransom on Jul 9, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll post the one for Washington to make up:

Morgan CF
Bernadina RF
Zimmerman 3B
Dunn 1B
Guzman SS
Harris LF
Kennedy 2B
Nieves C
Strasburg P

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Pudge. Regular rest for both of them apparently.

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because he's being traded to us today, right?

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by Gobroks on Jul 9, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL DESMOND

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL HOT BAT GUZMAN

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

SEE YA IN ANOTHER LIFE BROTHA

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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow. Morgan, Harris, Nieves, and Kennedy in the same lineup? That makes us look good!

Apparently Riggleman thinks that Strasburg won’t need offense. He’s probably right.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Morgan has just been brutal this year. He’s the all time out machine. If he somehow ever manages to get on base he immediately gets thrown out or picked off. And his defense which was electrifying last year has completely come unglued. Ugly, ugly, ugly!

My Bucardo is better than yours.

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by Roger on Jul 9, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

/takes notes for Pokemonz purposes

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jul 9, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

So basically, he is Velez?

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

better, but worse

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by nogooddeed on Jul 9, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

/cue Lookout Landing image contest

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

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"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

you thought the Brewers were bad on defense

the Nats lead the majors in Errors and lowest in Fielding % and that’s with Zimmerman. Ian Desmond is a worse fielding SS than A. Escobar, which is probably why he isn’t in there today.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 9, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Strasburg filter applied.

Korres
SanKez
Kuff
Kurrell
Kosey
Kandoval
IshiKawa
RentKria
Kain

by Every6thDay on Jul 9, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fixed

Korres
SanKez
Kuff
Kurrell
Buster Motherfucking Home Run Posey
Kandoval
IshiKawa
RentKria
Kain

by PIZZAGUY on Jul 9, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

needs more Korey

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Expect the K's to dip

Apparently the book has gotten out on Strasburg that he doesn’t come in to the zone with two strikes. In his last start everyone waited him out and had much better success….wait correction, expect the K’s to dip after he faces the Giants, with that being the case I expect him to strike out 42 batters in 9 innings.

by Giant Torture on Jul 9, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

42 is being conservative, methinks.

I expect him to adjust back at the league and start to come in when he’s got two strikes. Also, maybe he shouldn’t throw that two-seamer for strikes. Whenever I watch highlights, it looks like that’s the only thing people are hitting.

by Every6thDay on Jul 9, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's good....

But is still hittable, the more he comes back in to the zone it will bring his K numbers down, although I still expect they’ll be very good.

by Giant Torture on Jul 9, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does he throw a slider?

If so, Ishikawa is going to be wearing a sombrero of the golden variety.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL the 3rd and 4th batters!!!!

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

NotLOL

Crying softly to myself….

by Giant Torture on Jul 9, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

DAMN!

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not left handed.

Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Jul 9, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL Giants

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on Jul 9, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOLNate

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jul 9, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT: Aramis Ramirez
Aramis Ramirez has three straight multi-hit games and is dangerously close to bringing his average (.195) north of the Mendoza line.

"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
FREE POSEY IS FREE

by Yoyo on Jul 9, 2010 12:37 PM PDT reply actions  

LOLramis

Cubs are seriously a sad team

by TBRMKane on Jul 9, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL Cubs

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on Jul 9, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loving the fact that the Chicago Cubs suck AGAIN

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Welcome to almost all of the last 105 years!

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

And being in the LOL EAST COAST BIAS part of the country?

it makes it even sweeter, i’m loving the taste of the tears

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lovable Losers

"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES

by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jul 9, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me too

I hate Cubs fans.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey!

I used to be a Cubs fan. That was before I realized it was ruining my life.

by taliesin on Jul 9, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

…so you solved that problem by becoming a Giants fan.

LOL YOU.

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Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoa....

Call me old school, but you pick a team as a child, unqualified as you may be, and then stick with them for the rest of your life unless a team moves to the area in which you reside—and have resided—and/or your team moves away ala the Cleveland Browns. You don’t think I’d rather root for team that might actually win a World Series in my lifetime?

by Giant Torture on Jul 9, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I probably would’ve abandoned the Giants had they moved to St. Petersburg. But otherwise, never ever.

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

THIS

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Jul 9, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I probably would’ve too, but they still had Clark and call me sentimental but he was the original Buster Posey, I might have hung on.

by Giant Torture on Jul 9, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

if a team moves on you, that’s fair game. Also, if an owner is colossally and perpetually stupid, maybe (I’m talking Chris Cohan levels of stupid).

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jul 9, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

boo

root, root, root for the home team. Unless you live in LA or Boston.

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doesnt help if your parents are from a specific area and they always watch their hometown teams play

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

sure, blame the parents

Throw off the shackles of your oppressors!

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

FREAKING PARENTS!!!!! KIDS SHOULD REVOLT!!!!

but i can at least say that the parents have an influence

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get that point of view. But I really couldn’t take it. The organization was committed to being just good enough to compete but not good enough to win. (Although that does sound strangely familiar….)

So when I moved to San Francisco I adopted the team of my new home, only to experience similar torture.

by taliesin on Jul 9, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Adding, I have also abandoned the Raiders (who I rooted for since childhood) and I’d have done the same with the Warriors if I didn’t think they were getting a new owner soon.

by taliesin on Jul 9, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to go ahead and approve the move/adoption strategy.

Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Jul 9, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I left NY to return here

oh, you know, like September of 1996. Sorry for ruining the Giants for everyone.

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kinda like me and the warriors… used to be blazers fan (lived in the bay area all my life) then dad got me onto the warriors

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I sincerely hope

That last week’s Corey Hart rumors give way to this week’s Josh Willingham rumors.

My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.

by GiantPain on Jul 9, 2010 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

OR ADAM DUNN, come on dude, really? Willingham?

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

146 OPS+

The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"

by thehavenot on Jul 9, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Named "Josh"

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rachel Green sold him underwear and gave him Knicks tickets!!

I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson

by nogooddeed on Jul 9, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, Willingham

Unless the NL suddenly adopts the DH.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or, if the Nationals hire Steve Phillips, we could get Strasburg for Zito.

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll submit my request

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

>RUN DINGERZ.EXE

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'll take RUNZ, but meh on dingerz

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was the player the McCovern craved last year.

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on Jul 9, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rent a player

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

?

It’s Dunn who’s going to be a free agent, not Willingham.

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

my bad, i meant, Dunn is the rent a player, GET EM!!!

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's kinda been good, 50 RBI's? 15 HR's and a 300 avg?

sounds like a good corner outfielder

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rent is NOT a player.

I’m sure he’s a nice man.

Besides, “players” often give off the aura of confident success.

Every time Rent’s at bat he looks just plain worried.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Jul 9, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Grant

This was great

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Jul 9, 2010 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Girl Friend's Bday

I convinced the girlfriend to have her BDAY tonight at the Nationals game. I also somehow convinced her to somehow wear a Giant’s jersey (although she’s already said she’s going to “decorate” it). She told me last night that she’s decided to be a Giants fan. A win would really go a long ways to making it happen.

If any of you want to meet us, we’ll be at the Red Loft/Porch? Bar most of the night. I think her jersey will say something like “Birthday Girl”

by ElCartero on Jul 9, 2010 12:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Okay

Haven’t been to the new park, usually make it up when the Giants are in town, but caught them in Atlanta the last couple of years.

by Giant Torture on Jul 9, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s decent… too open for my liking. Maybe we’re just spoiled.

by ElCartero on Jul 9, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

man

I was thinking I wanted to order a Buster Posey t-shirt, but sfgiants.com only has Lincecum and Zito (!?):

http://shop.mlb.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=2455399&cp=1452365.1452881

Lame.

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 12:46 PM PDT reply actions  

WTF that is pretty lame

luckily i got my San Jose Giants Posey t-shirt

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently even at the dugout store they’re mostly sold out. Same with Torres.

Bandwagon!

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

can I interest you in a #33 jersey

“Posey” is slightly misspelled, but they’re available now!

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same guy

Who sells the Mini Soda shirts?

by Giant Torture on Jul 9, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man, they still have Dave Roberts shirts.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I tried to buy one at the last game I went to and they were sold out.

Thank god they had plenty of Velez, Bochy and Molina shirts though.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was really disappointing

Plus it’s keeping them from making money. People want a Posey shirt – they aren’t going to settle for a DeRosa shirt or w/e.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never understood the selection of women’s sized shirts, either. Zito, Cain, Lincecum, Wilson, okay. But Rowand and Ishikawa? F. Sanchez? And no one else? Weird. Also, I can never get a Zito one in my size. They have like XS and XL only.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have some female friends who are big fans of Ishikawa.

by Natto on Jul 9, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

+ 1

Another waste.

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Needs moar Geno Espinelli!

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

HEY NOW

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

YOU'RE AN ALL-STAR

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL that song.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL ME

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then again, I have a Giants calendar, and the player for July is Manny Burriss. The Ishikawa shirt makes much more sense.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t it mannybeatsfranny?

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

/oblivious

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the heck is a reference?

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Jul 9, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha

My Giants calendar had Molina as the player for June. He got traded and I got to turn the page on the calendar and not look at him again on the same day!

July is Jonathan Sanchez.

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have another one at home that I got for free on opening day. May was Mark DeRosa, which was pretty hilarious.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

This means on July 31st, Sanchez will be traded for Bret Hart.

Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Jul 10, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unbelievable. I know they sell out and have to be replaced, but what kind of sociopath would actually trade hard-earned American dollars for a Bochy shirt? WTF?!?!??

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some of the shirt choices they have are epically WTF

It’s nice to have the option (I remember back when they sold nothing but Bonds, Schmidt, Snow and Aurilia) but come on, no one needs some of these shirts. Let alone having an entire rack of them for sale.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

Even though they sell so many kinds, I feel like I never see anything but Lincecum and Sandoval shirts anyway.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

no.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do they sell a Molina tent, or is that just his normal shirt size?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t that what cows say?

Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%

Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.

by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's what your mother said, Trebek!

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

JOKE APPROVAL COMMITTEE!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

why do I have a nauseating suspicion

this consists of you? I WUZ FRAMED /steals magazines in downtown Oakland

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anal bum coverings!

Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%

Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.

by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

There were a ton of Sandoval and Lincecum shirts and jerseys at the Grizz/River Cats game. I only saw those, plus one girl who had an old Bowker shirt with #21 on it. I want to know where she got that! She’s probably a member of his family or something.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I met someone at the end of 2008 who had a bowker shirt… Or maybe it was a jersey… Anyway maybe that’s when she got it?

by sfgiantsgirl on Jul 9, 2010 3:41 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Back in late 2005/early 2006, the Cubs were selling tons of Neifi Perez merchandise. Cubs fans are so dumb,

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s nothing funnier than seeing a 260 lb Chicago guy in a Juan Pierre shirt. Nothing.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That might be impossible to find.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m trying to remember if I’ve seen those at the dugout store amongst the Kruk, Kuip and JT Snow shirts.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

The guy who wakes up in a cold sweat every morning thinking, “I could have caught a major league no hitter!”?

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s so never going to have a chance again. Bochy’d.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last time I went to the dugout store, I didn’t see one. But that was last September, though, so it’s definitely changed by then.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

ice cold TWSS

When this .sig was awaiting the Final Sabean Apocalypse, I never once in a million years suspected it would be a "good" Apocalypse. Bengie... Don't let the door hit you IN YOUR GIANT ASS on the way out!
-------
PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game totally stalled and basically dead at this point

by zenbitz on Jul 9, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is the same team that will have a Bruce Bochy bobblehead giveaway day.

Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Jul 10, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

My friend wanted a Bowker shirt before he got sent down. They don’t even make those.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want one of those. I already have the Lincecum jersey covered.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d probably have to go to Fresno to get one.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’d have to get it customized there. They don’t sell player shirts.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was gonna get one at the last game I was at

but then I saw a MadBum shirt, and I had to get that

Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster

by Gobroks on Jul 9, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

over/under on Botchy shirt sales?

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

actually they have all sizes of Posey and bumgarner at the dugout store. Sometimes you have to ask them to look in th back for more. And a new shipment of torres should be in by next homestand :)

by sfgiantsgirl on Jul 9, 2010 3:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I got a customized one last year. I waited for the custom player shirt sale they had, though.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cliff Lee

According to MLB Trade Rumors, the Mariners are backing off the Cliff Lee deal, maybe there is justice in the world.

by Giant Torture on Jul 9, 2010 12:47 PM PDT reply actions  

oh yes! thank goodness

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huzzah!

Maybe Jose Lopez agreed to start hitting?

6/30/10- The Beginning of a New Era

by Bballpitcher2 on Jul 9, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow. There must be a better deal on the table.

And the package they were going to get from the Yankees was pretty fucking spectacular already.

by Every6thDay on Jul 9, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

the conspiracy theory

is that the Yankees were just jerking the Mariners around to make the Twins or whoever is really going after him have to pay more.

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’ve got to reckon that some team will outbid the Yankees for Lee. There are plenty of contenders with less depth in the rotation and more depth in the farm system.

Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.

by oldjacket on Jul 9, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

My oldjacket, this comment you made a few hours ago looks awfully prescient now!

Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.

by oldjacket on Jul 9, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Posey

Where has Buster been hitting his homers? Left Field?

by ElCartero on Jul 9, 2010 1:07 PM PDT reply actions  

anywhere he damn well pleases

His latest shot was an opposite field blast

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by McCoven on Jul 9, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most of them have been to the opposite field, actually.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

scouting report

smoke him inside!!

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

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by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

if outside, use a blanket or tent to avoid indecent exposure

by aug_21_2003 on Jul 9, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I should add that there are F-bombs to have my previous comment make sense

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 1:21 PM PDT reply actions  

whooooooo

Just checked the weather. We’re at 100 degrees. Lovely!

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

YIKES, humidity?

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

29%. Not as bad as it could be, but at 100 degrees, that’s still plenty muggy.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

crazy it's only 29%, but that's something i don't miss

but it’s weird, i’m kinda missing the wild weather back east… it’s just too perfect here… you miss it back here? (is that even a question)

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been too busy to really miss it the last couple of weeks. But yes.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea… i guess that’s just me, i miss the weather out there since i really want to be a weatherman, and hell, doing storm chasing would be awesome and fun… you can prolly scratch the health insurance off the list of benefits there

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m very much a Northern Californian in that I don’t like my weather to have weather in it.

Aside from the heat, it drives me crazy how much it rains in the summer here. DIDN’T THEY GET THE MEMO? I’M FROM THE EAST BAY. IT’S NOT SUPPOSED TO RAIN IN THE SUMMER, EVER!

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

i keep forgetting you were forced to live out there… But yea, you go where the money/job is. And yea, it was a bit of a shocker for me too when i first lived out in Ohio and Michigan for a while, but man, the Fall and Spring are absolutely AMAZING, i love it. But i guess i’m talking about the crazy midwestern storms, compared to the wet hot Florida summers

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. Chicago has been stupid with thunderstorms this spring/summer.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

How bout that storm the other week?

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crazy. It would have been more fun without my GF’s dog freaking out

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha

see, but those are the kinda storms i like, just being in those kinds of storms

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, we have crazy storms here, believe me. Florida has some of the biggest thunderstorms in the world.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

STORM CHASING!!! how do i apply for this kinda field,

prolly something i’ll look into

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

That A in climatology and all those geography classes

has to go to somethin, right?

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

quotable
I’m very much a Northern Californian in that I don’t like my weather to have weather in it.

+1

by GameSix on Jul 9, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like summer storms. They cool everything down. Winter storms suck. If it’s cold out, rain makes it worse. If it’s hot out, rain makes it better.

In a lot of ways I prefer the DC weather to the SF weather, with the notable exception of the heat waves like we’ve got going on right now. This just sucks, I wish it would rain or something.

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by neurofarm on Jul 9, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Summer storms just make it more humid here, usually.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Summer breeze makes me feel fine

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

From my memory it usually gets more humid but cools down enough to make it worth it.

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by neurofarm on Jul 9, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s not been my experience thus far, but even if it does, “cooled down” here is still a million times hotter than average Bay Area summer weather.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is true. I’d rather not live in Florida myself, it’s too hot. I just like the varied east-coast weather more than the same-every-day of the Pacific coast.

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by neurofarm on Jul 9, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m familiar with this attitude, but I don’t understand it. Nice weather is nice.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

It depends on your definition of “nice”. I am less tolerant of sun than a lot of people.

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by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would love to live in a place with Pacific NW weather. Mild winters, warm summers, plenty of rain.

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by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

The weather in the San Juan Islands is great. Similar to Seattle, but less relentlessly overcast.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nyah, nyah.

From Ritzville, Washington. But little rain. And winters mild, but enough snow for the dog to play in.

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by owlcroft on Jul 9, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Pacific northwest wears shorts?

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by neurofarm on Jul 9, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

warmer there than SF proper quite a lot. people think it constantly rains in Seattle all year, but it’s not that bad, and the summers are really nice. It’s a sort of myth to keep more California people from moving there.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah

They surf in pleated khakis.

Actually, even the weather here changes depending on where you are. Want cold? Go into the city. Want hot? Hit the east bay. Micro-climates ftw

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, these are all generalizations. And I lived is SF for a while, in the sunset district, where it would be foggy and cold a lot of the year. But go to a Giants game across town and it would be sunny and warm. It was pretty cool actually, but I guess I just like storms, and the storms in CA are almost all winter rains. Those aren’t as fun to me as summer rains or winter snows.

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by neurofarm on Jul 9, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with every bit of this.

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by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

29% humidity is actually quite low – not humid at all. It’s no Phoenix (currently 16% humidity), but even San Jose is 46% right now, and I’m sure it’s not humid there.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

San Jose is also, according to weather.com, 73 degrees right now. Humidity is relative – the same percentage doesn’t mean the same thing at different temperatures.

Anyway, when I step outside, it doesn’t feel like walking through soup like it normally does, but it ain’t dry either.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it’s 65 and a humidity of 60, you wont feel much, only reason why there’s relative humidity here is because of the trough from the ocean, it’s the cold moist pacific air

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, like every night in SF. I haven’t always been in Chicago!

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

BOOYA!!! exactly!

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well of course, but you are well familiar with 89 degrees and 80% humidity (or more), and that’s reallllly ugly.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

29% humidity is probably not that low if it’s 100 degrees. It’s relative humidity; how much humidity is in the air relative to the maximum that could be before precipitating out in the form of dew. If you just want an absolute measure of humidity, look at the dew point. If the dew point is in the 60s and its hot, you will be miserable. weather.com sez the dew point in DC right now is 67. That’s bad.

by taliesin on Jul 9, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, yeah, I realize that. It’s just that we get a ton of much higher humidity days, even when the temp is 85+

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

A dumb team will trade for him at the deadline, hoping he can maintain an ERA under 4.00, so keep rooting for Madison Bumgarner to succeed.

i just thought this was worth repeating.

by NateEveryday on Jul 9, 2010 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

This is a fucking beautiful post.

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 1:25 PM PDT reply actions  

FUCK
extrabaggs
  
Dan Runzler says MRI shows some cartilage tearing in knee but ligaments, tendons OK. No surgery. Had it drained. Out 6-8 weeks.

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 1:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Damn, so that puts him out until near the end of August?

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

End of August/beginning of September, pretty much.

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, he'll HOPEFULLY help the giants make it into the post season

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

83 wins here we come!

We do play in the NL Centeral right?

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by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

HAHA, i was looking at the standings again, just WOW

the cubs are pathetic, basically it’s Cincy and St. Louis, GO REDS

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m definitely hoping it’s the Reds over the Cards.

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reds v. Giants 1st round! :D

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can dig it!

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

With Joey Votto winning MVP. Just to make Manuel look even dumber.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I approve of that so much.

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

i donno who i like better, him or Bruce, damn

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Both are pretty kickass.

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Votto more

just because of what he battled back from

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by Gobroks on Jul 9, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

BACK FROM BEING CANADIAN!!!!

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by Gobroks on Jul 9, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Could he go for the triple crown?

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do want the Cards to get stupid an offer up some goodies for Rent &Huff/Uribe first though.

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by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would enjoy the Reds getting another moment in the sun.

I am really going to miss our Nl Centeral game in the last 2 months. I think we onlt have 3 series and 1 of them is Vs the Cards.

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by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pissed the giants couldn’t play at Cincy twice this year, they just had to play in MILWAUKEE!!!! haha

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw the Giants in Milwaukee several years ago. Barry missed reaching one of the home run milestones (Mays, maybe? I can’t remember now) by about two feet. Had it carried out of the park, it would’ve been right at me. Woe.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha, no kidding? how’d you like the park? and wow, that would have been awesome if you were to caught, imagine the possibilities

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was just okay. Kind of in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by a gigantic parking lot. And we actually got lost on the way there – I had to call 411 and then call the ballpark to get directions. Heh.

The game happened during a huge thunderstorm, so the roof was up. It probably would’ve been nicer with the roof open – and Barry’s hit probably would’ve gone out, too.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah it’s weird with all the new downtown parks and Milwaukee’s is still out in the middle of giant parking lot suburb land. well, it’s in Milwaukee but might as well be suburbia.

I was there when it was at least 60 degrees and sunny, and the roof was still closed. I agree it would be much better open.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kuip was talking about that one day

said it’s not A-C (is that Houston that runs the AC with the roof open? LOL melting glaciers) and that when the roof is closed it gets pretty sweltery inside.

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

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by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea, i've been to the park, just not inside

and yea, the bonds hit probably would have been a lil more carry with the roof open

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

SHIT

/Sabez panics and trades Bumgarner for LaTroy Hawkins

by 49erEmpire on Jul 9, 2010 1:52 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

that's better than 6-8 months

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by RDreamer on Jul 9, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, Rangers.......
Smoak not in #Rangers lineup tonight. Arias at 1B vs. Lefty. Matchup or just in case of completing Lee deal?

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by jctGamer on Jul 9, 2010 1:46 PM PDT reply actions  

OH MY!!! no way!!!

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

My Rangers fan friend will have a heart attack.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mine, too. She’s already freaking out on twitter.

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL expressing anger over twitter, NERDS!!!

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Twitter rules in so many ways.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

rules what

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

The internet, for one.

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Green it!

Because green poop rules.

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by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

So, what'd you tweet just now?

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, I was tweeting at a friend about speedskating.

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh god, spare me! still my friend tho chop

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL, I have a locked twitter specifically for spamming at my friends, so y’all are spared.

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL TWITTER NERDS!

=p

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

“LarsTheWanderer is now following you on Twitter.”

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Be careful of that guy

He sounds like a nerd.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it’s too late for the careful part.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

=)

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Texas Rangers: 50 years, 1 postseason win.

That’s almost as sad as the Cubs.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe Bengie ate him...

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by ToddCommish on Jul 9, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

So thats why they had Fava beans in the post game spread yeaterday…

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by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

just giving him a rest; he's slumping and slow

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by nogooddeed on Jul 9, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joelsherman1
  
i have learned deal done with #Rangers, Smoak and 3 others for Lee and reliever Mark Lowe #Rangers, #Mariners

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

oh whoa?

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by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHA, OHMYGOD BENGIE HELP LEE OUT

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHOA

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

SUCK IT YANKEES

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by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

fail

they’re better off not giving away one of the two or three bats in their system.

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

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by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

They want to trade Montero because they know he can’t stay at C, and that he’s blocked by Tex.

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by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

they don't "want" to trade Montero

which is probably why they didn’t.

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

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by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reports seem to think that it was Seattle who nixed this, not the Yankees.

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by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, so this is why the Rangers have never won shit!

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depends on the prospects. Remember, they get draft picks for Lee.

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by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

wait

I am a moron and forgot about which Lee we were talking about. That’s different.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

(for a minute there I thought they were trading Smoak and three others for Derrek Lee, which broke my brain. LOL me)

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh ok

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by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, that just would’ve been a horrible trade for the Rangers.

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Were you thinking El Caballo?

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by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which Lee were you thinking about?

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Derrek! Like I said, LOL ME.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s kind of crazy that Lee has now been with four teams in the last year, though.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have not seen the whole deal but it might make sence if they are looking at haveing to tear the budget down this off season then might has well take a shot while they have good chance.

/ shrugs

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by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Smoak is most of the package, I don’t think that’s a good trade for Seattle. People were talking about Jesus Montero for Lee.

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by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno, it says “3 others”. Given the Rangers system, that could easily be 3 pretty damn good prospects.

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

True. It could be a great deal. But in general, I think I’d take one elite prospect (and Montero is about as elite as they come) over 2-3 pretty good ones.

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by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Smoak is hardly chopped liver, though. And Seattle has a lot of holes.

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but FWIW he’s had a much slower start to his MLB career than Posey. There has been talk of sending him back down (I’m not sure if his 0-for-20 slump is over yet, but there was a lot of concern).

by Duelling Brandos on Jul 9, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has had a slow start to his MLB career, but he wouldn’t be the first one.

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, absolutely

I actually agree. I guess just because I am local to the Rangers market I get to hear the griping.

by Duelling Brandos on Jul 9, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

rec'd

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by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s also some bad luck. Smoak has a 23.9% LD rate (very good), but a .238 BABIP.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

But he’s only hitting .209. Total flop!!!

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, it seems like, lately, a lot of the top pitching prospects who’ve been called up (Strasburg, Bumgarner, Feliz etc.) have really been thriving, while the top hitting prospects who’ve been called up (Smoak, Wieters, Beckham, Stanton, Alvarez) have been struggling mightily – except for one Mr. Geraldine Posey.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beckham did have a great start, though. He’s moved on the sophomore slump.

by Evan on Jul 9, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beckham has a good first year, but he started 0-13 and 2-28 (.071/.133/.071) before heating up. It took him 20 games to hit the Mendoza line, and there was a lot of talk of him not being ready.

The White Sox did stick with him, though. Maybe they need Bowker.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stanton, Alvarez, Smoak all had glaring holes in their minor league track records, though. It’s not that surprising that they’re having a hard time in the majors.

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by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always thought Stanton was overrated, sure. And Alvarez to some extent. Smoak I liked more.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stanton’s a lot younger than those other guys. I don’t expect much from him now, but he has plenty of time to work things out.

by Evan on Jul 9, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sure it was difficult to keep him down when he was killing the ball like he was, but he does K a lot and he is very, very young. I think the Marlins should have kept him down longer.

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

While Stanton is very very young, he was also repeating AA this year, and still posted a 27.6% K rate. It’ll be pretty shocking if he ever turns out to be anything other than one of the worst contact hitters in the majors.

Patience is key here. With his power, he can strike out 40% of the time and still be a good hitter, but only if he learns to be patient. If I were the Rangers, I’d sign someone like Bonds as the hitting coach just so he could work with him.

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by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was putting up great walk numbers so far this year in AA, but of course, how much of that is actually him and how much of that is teams pitching around him because he’s hit 21 HR in 53 games.

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Considering that his walk rates were pretty uninspiring before this season, I’d guess that it’s all intimidation.

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by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, he’s also 20.

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, yeah. That’s why I consider him a good but flawed prospect, as opposed to, say, Chris Davis, who I consider a bust.

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by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stanton is a Marlin. Still, at age 20, he has plenty of time to learn.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bah. Too much Rangers talk.

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by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

he was repeating AA, but considering that he’s only 20 and he played all of 79 games there the year before, that seems like an unfair thing to ding him with.

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s unfair. We’re already taking into account the fact that he’s extremely young, and whether or not he was repeating a level is pretty important, imo.

It’s pretty simple, the way I see it. If he develops some sort of plate discipline, he’s good, if he doesn’t, he’s not. His power and contact skills are as non question marks as they come.

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by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

THIS

Stanton is excusable though since he skipped AAA.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 9, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

That Santana guy is pretty good.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 9, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, true.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

They say Heyward is OK too.

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by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Though he’s really cooled off.

Still, .821 OPS from a 20 year old is damn fine.

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by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

IIRC, he got a thumb or wrist injury diving into a bag and has slumped since.

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

He should get bonus points for knocking McClouth out of the lineup by giving him a concussion too.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 9, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah but he tried to play through it for a little while.

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Always a good idea!

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL Renteria
LOL Rowand
LOL Morris
LOL Lowry
LOL Foppert
LOL Nen

Seriously, if there’s a team out there that should know that playing hurt is not a good idea, it’s the Giants.

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by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definition of insanity, etc.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s a pretty flagrant oversight on my part, yes.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

YOU SUCK

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by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's right

And if there’s one thing Seattle needs it’s a power hitting 1B, because as we all know Dustin Ackley has a cocaine problem!

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by RDreamer on Jul 9, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s also kind of sucked, last time I checked his numbers.

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by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, except for OBP

.255 / .383 / .376 in AA

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s putting up good OBP but no power

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ackley is playing CF or 2B for them, isn’t he?

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

2b I thought.

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by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

They must be going for quantity. It looked like the Yankees were offering Montero and 2 crappy guys. Texas could be offering Smoak and 3 really good prospects.

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by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

In this line. Montero “solves” C for awhile so there has to more then Smaok ..wait for it.. and mirrors, right?

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by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Montero is, by most accounts, a really crappy defensive catcher.

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by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hm, I didn’t know that. So crappy that he’d have to be moved off catcher?

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by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really? It’s like the #1 question with him in most write-ups – how long will he stick at catcher? Will he be able to play first base or will he be a DH even from a young age?

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

yea, Montero is a big dude

by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 9, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

right

They also have a few big fat contracts attached to players who won’t be playing 3B and C and 1B forever, so it will be a crowded field.

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by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/jesus-montero-saves/

Think 1B/DH. He gets a lot of Carlos Delgado comps.

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by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

/ wipes!

Thank you

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by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

/ Swipes even!

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by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, thank goodness. I wasn’t sure I wanted to know what “/wipes” meant.

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by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dave is on twitter as well

“I’M POOPIN!”

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

" It is not green this time.
 I am dissapointed."

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by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

“/wipes” is better, though possibly TMI.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks. Now my nose hairs are cleaned by coffee. Again.

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by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

/whips

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whipped cream?

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Work off those extra calories?

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, then, I retract my comments.

But I’m not a huge fan of Smoak, and Lee is an absolute beast. Plus having him means getting compensation picks (unless you re-sign him, of course). I guess it depends on the other prospects involved. If they’re just sweeteners, I don’t think this is a very good deal.

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by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Montero is likely to be a much better hitter than Smoak long-term and none of the other pieces they got seem particularly great, so I don’t think this is a good deal for Seattle either.

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everything I’ve read suggests that he’s going to have to move sooner rather than later. But if he stays with the Yankees, they’ll have more reason to keep trying him there.

by Evan on Jul 9, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't Bengie be blocking Montero anyway?

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by ToddCommish on Jul 9, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Team mixup. Montero would go to Seattle from Yankees; would not be involved in Texas/Seattle trade.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

It seems unlikely Montero is going to stick at catcher, though.

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blake Beavan is probably one of them

LSB also said 2B Matt Lawson, and some reliever Lueke or something

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by Gobroks on Jul 9, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

This one makes more sense in that the Rangers really need an ace starter, but man, Smoak for a rental is a brutal price to pay.

by Evan on Jul 9, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

The brutal part is if Smoak remains a beast and stays with the M’s for 10 years. That would sssoooo suck.

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by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know that he’ll ever be a “beast” — more like a consistently outstanding all-around player a la Olerud or Joyner or Keith Hernandez, like that.

by Evan on Jul 9, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, now Saltalamacchia can leave his C throwing woes behind and become a 1Bman.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read that as Chili Davis.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

ditto

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by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

mmm a Chili Dog!

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by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like 10 years of your prospect ala Joyner/Olerud smacking your pitchers arround 18 games a year isn’t the food of fan nightmares.

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by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I give Daniels a lot of credit for guts. I am not sure many GM’s make what could be that big of an impact trade inside their division to team with pockets as deep as the M’s have.

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by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m really not getting all the Smoak love. Out of college, the main worry was that he doesn’t have enough power to be a great 1B, and so far he’s shown even less power than expected. He seems to have a great eye, but isn’t a particularly good contact hitter. And it’s not like he’s crazy young. Basically, looks like were talking about a Daric Barton type, which is really cool to have, but isn’t exactly a cornerstone player or anything. What am I missing?

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by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Scouts dig his swing, I think. And 17 homers in 600 pa’s in the minors isn’t great, but it’s not exactly powerless.

by Evan on Jul 9, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t he also playing hurt for part of last year? That wouldn’t help the power numbers.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meh

.461 minor league SLG, without ever being particularly young for the league.

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by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you’re downplaying him a bit – a great eye is certainly not a minor thing for a player to have. And his power hasn’t been huge so far, but it’s not like he’s slugging like Dustin Ackley. I obviously don’t think he’s as good of a prospect as Montero, but depending on the other players Seattle gets, Smoak + others could be a better overall package than just Montero (who does have question marks of his own)

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not at all a minor thing to have. But when it’s your only good skill, odds are you’re not that good. It’s not like being compared to Daric Barton is an insult – I’d love to have Barton. But I just don’t think Smoak is such an exciting prospect.

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by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I just went over to USS Mariner and they’re all ecstatic, which seems a bit weird.

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

IDK

if Lee was baling out anyway, it’s more than the picks they would have gotten for holding on to him, isn’t it?

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by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but they were about to get Montero + for him…

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe they didn't like the +

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

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by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Yankees + is no worse than the Rangers + ended up being.

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe the Mariners saw something in Montero they didn’t like, like a possible or injury something? Just a total guess.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s like 20 years old, though.

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he killed a guy.

/self-ban

by Evan on Jul 9, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe the Yankees thought about it and came to the same decision

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or maybe they overreacted to Montero’s not-so-great AAA line.

Of course, that doesn’t make sense, given Smoak has been struggling in the majors, so presumably they would’ve overreacted to that, too.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s pretty good for a rental without the +

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously, just getting Montero alone for him would have been a great deal.

When they said Smoak +, I assumed they’d be getting at least one other pretty good Rangers prospect in addition, but now that they haven’t… I can’t really say I understand why they preferred the Rangers package.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm… maybe he thought better to take from a division rival for one part season of Lee?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s an interesting thought, actually.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, maybe overthinking the strategy, but if he can weaken the Rangers after this season, the Mariners have a better chance? Maybe Rangers make another trade and further weaken farm system?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still, though, it’s not like it’s a two-team race. The Rangers do have a fantastic young core, but the Angles are rich, and the A’s also have a great young core and a good GM (albeit one who seems to be having a very bad year).

But it’s definitely something to think about.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Angles? Don’t be obtuse.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m acutely offended by this statement

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

you may both be right

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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by jctGamer on Jul 9, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

pythagoras FTW!

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
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by greatgiantfan on Jul 9, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I seek compliments and criticism equalaterally

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by jctGamer on Jul 9, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

/gamer

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...

by greatgiantfan on Jul 9, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ahhh,. I see. it’s just a matter of degrees

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

isosceles at graduation a few days ago, she is getting her masters.

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by jctGamer on Jul 9, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, fuck it. I no good in de inglish. I forbid people from making fun of any mistake I make.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can make fun of my hebrew any time you want.

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by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Jul 9, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

ואתה יכול לדחוף מחבט לתחת מתי שבא לך

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Angels haven’t seemed to replenish their once-mighty pitching, and they’re getting old. One team at a time, maybe?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

True. On the other hand, though, they’re, like, really rich.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t think of that.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Yanks were going to throw in Adams and Zach McAllister. Both aren’t terrible prospects.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 9, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe

that’s what the Ms wanted, and not what the Yanks were peddling.

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Mariners backed off because of Adams health.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 9, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

really?

it seems ridiculous that Adams would be the thing to kill a deal that would get the Ms Jesus Montero.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read this as “a deal that would get them Ms. Jesus Montero”.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

She was a throw in!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just picture big ole’ Jesus Montero in a dress and blonde flowy wig.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what was reported. Who knows if it’s true.

2:57pm: The Mariners didn’t accept the Yankees’ offer of Montero, Adams and a third prospect, so the Yankees may walk away from the discussions, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com (via Twitter). A Yankees official told Jack Curry of the YES Network that the Bronx Bombers aren’t getting Lee (Twitter link).

2:44pm: The Mariners are backing off, according to Sherman. The Yankees believe they are no longer in the Lee sweepstakes, as the M’s have gone in another direction (all Twitter links). Sherman says ‘the Yankees aren’t getting Cliff Lee,’ since another team has entered discussions aggressively.

Meanwhile, Olney cites ‘big concerns’ in the talks between the Yankees and Mariners (Twitter link).

1:27pm: The Yankees have offered Montero, Adams and a third prospect, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com (Twitter link). It’s now up to the Mariners to accept or decline the offer.

3:41pm: The Mariners had concerns about Adams’ health and talks broke down from there, according to Olney (via Twitter). Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News points out that Smoak is not in the Rangers’ lineup tonight (Twitter link).

by Hobbes2d on Jul 9, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Adams is pretty good, but who knows. I think they wanted him so they could move Ackley off 2nd.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 9, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, of course he is, but considering they ended up with Lawson instead…

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cliff Lee as a Ranger

Would take all of his Cliff Lee-ness away.

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Jul 9, 2010 2:13 PM PDT reply actions  

what the eff? smoak 4 lee rental?!?

by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 9, 2010 2:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Still waiting on the PsTBNL

Per Joel Sherman, the Rangers also get [drumroll]

The Mariners will also get three other players and surrender reliever Mark Lowe, who is iffy to return this season after undergoing back surgery.

by Duelling Brandos on Jul 9, 2010 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

The folks at Lone Star Ball are shitting themselves

They hate it. I don’t know why, it isn’t like Smoak was that great, and Cliff Lee means they’ll probably win their division. Another case of a team overvaluing its own guys methinks.

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by RDreamer on Jul 9, 2010 2:22 PM PDT reply actions  

6 years of Smoak (+ whatever other prospects they’re giving up) for three months of Lee?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I can understand that

But Cliff Lee is Cliff Lee and they have never won a goddamn thing.

In other news, I traded Cliff Lee in the MCC Pokemonz league this week. With him playing in the Texas heat, I am glad I did. Suck it, LOLteam.

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by RDreamer on Jul 9, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes please!

Bastards are breathing down my neck all of a sudden.

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Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will be too soon enough

Watch your back, buddy.

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by RDreamer on Jul 9, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

In fairness looking at what their front offfice gave up for Bengie I can understand their worry.

Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%

Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.

by daveinexile on Jul 9, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rangers’ farm system is still loaded

by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 9, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pinstripe Alley melted

this morning with McC levels of squinging about the Montero thing, so they’re not alone.

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone on Lone Star Ball says the prospects

are RHP Blake Beavan, RHP Josh Lueke, and 2B Matt Lawson.

I saw Beavan pitch at AA Frisco a few weeks ago—he’s damn legit.

by Duelling Brandos on Jul 9, 2010 2:24 PM PDT reply actions  

no sheppers then. i know thats what they were panicking about

"Life is like a grapefruit. Well, it's sort of orangy-yellow and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, too. Oh, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."

by operation carrot on Jul 9, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

no Perez or Beltre either

by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 9, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm. None of those guys were in BA’s Rangers Top 10 list coming into the season.

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rangers non-top 10 prospects are better than other teams, but this is better than I was expecting.

If this is the case, then Seattle probably should have taken Montero.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

(better for the rangers)

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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

They should have taken Montero because he’s younger and has a better bat than Smoak.

McAllister and Adams aren’t bad either.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 9, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beavan is better than org filler

He’s a little better than the guy we got for Bengie (Main)

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by Gobroks on Jul 9, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting. Beavan is holding his own at AA at 21, but his K-rates have been real low so far in his minor league career (his walk rates are super low too, though. Is he a groundballer?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, that is my recollection—not a lot of hard hit flyballs. But I only saw him once.

by Duelling Brandos on Jul 9, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but not at an extreme rate.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 9, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

recent picture of Beavan

Looks like a legit prospect to me!

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Jul 9, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow, he looks a lot like Clayton Kershaw!

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by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

While we're on this

Mike Judge is thinking about bringing back Beavis and Butthead.

by Natto on Jul 9, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Daria was a great character

Her family was annoying as shit. I support anything Mike Judge does. Everyone should watch Idiocracy.

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Jul 9, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus he gave us Matt Cain before Matt Cain.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 9, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Idiocracy is sooooo good and soooo underrated.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are an unfit parent

Your children are now in the custody of CARL’s JR. “Fuck you, I’m eating.”

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Jul 9, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

There was a time when reading wasn’t just for fags. And neither was writing. People wrote books and movies. Movies with stories, that made you care about whose ass it was and why it was farting. And I believe that time can come again!

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Jul 9, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

We did, however, have to come to an arrangement with her pimp. A gentleman who goes by the name Upgrayedd. Which he spells thusly, with two D’s, as he says, “for a double dose of this pimping”

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you don’t smoke Tarryltons… Fuck You!

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Jul 9, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

What are these electrolytes? Do you even know?

They’re… what they use to make Brawndo!

But why do they use them to make Brawndo?

Because Brawndo’s got electrolytes?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

You see, a pimp’s love is very different than that of a square.

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by RDreamer on Jul 9, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Welcome to Costco. I love you.

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 9, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rangers need to trade for Oswalt now

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by operation carrot on Jul 9, 2010 2:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I played against Drew Storen in High School

He pitched and we won 3-0. He seems like a good guy but his stuff never seemed that impressive in person. I think we were his only loss that year.

by Sandoval Stays Suckafree on Jul 9, 2010 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I saw him pitch at Stanford and he was a strike throwing machine with good velocity

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by nogooddeed on Jul 9, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol why does Dave Cameron prefer Smoak to Montero?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:29 PM PDT reply actions  

maybe it’s bitterness over Jeff Clement neither sticking at C nor becoming a good hitter

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just can’t see a logical reason to think Smoak is a better prospect than Montero.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Defense, I guess. But Montero seems to have a pretty good chance to develop into Miguel Cabrera, and it’s hard to do much better than that.

by Evan on Jul 9, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

First-base defense, though.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

all this talk about montero being the next miguel cabrera makes me miss angel

"Life is like a grapefruit. Well, it's sort of orangy-yellow and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, too. Oh, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."

by operation carrot on Jul 9, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Morrow > Lincecum

by Evan on Jul 9, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was silly, but Morrow is going to be awesome. I remember ChadBradfordWannabe/Carlos Gomez saying that Lincecum and Morrow were his #1 and #2 favorites from that draft.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

So who plays first for the Rangers now? Do they need to make another trade?

by Evan on Jul 9, 2010 2:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Chris Davis?

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by RDreamer on Jul 9, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

CHRIS DAVIS

or Salty?

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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can’t go into a pennant race with those clowns as your first basemen, can you?

by Evan on Jul 9, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can if you have Josh Hamilton, Nelson Cruz, Michael Young and Cliff Lee

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by RDreamer on Jul 9, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Breaking, Rangers try to disguise Molina as Smoak

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by nogooddeed on Jul 9, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mariners uncover plot through examination of what remained of the clubhouse spread (nothing, not even crumbs)

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL GIANTS

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure they'll call up Davis stat

even though he’s awful.

Hey, I hear Carlos Delgado’s available!

by Duelling Brandos on Jul 9, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

We did it with crappy JT.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our playoff years coincided with his good years, though.

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Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not the one in which we actually, like, went into a pennant race.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

JT >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Davis.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least JT could work an at-bat

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t trying to say that Davis is as good as JT Snow, just that Davis can probably put up JT Snow’s 2002 numbers.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chris Davis’ updated ZIPS OPS projection: 718
JT Snow’s 2002 OPS: 704

I suppose there are park factors and defense to include, but it’s probably pretty close.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rowand?

Wilber Bucardo: Carlos Silva with a younger brother.

by gianator on Jul 9, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have the Rangers been sold?

Who is paying Lee’s salary?

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

George Steinbrenner

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by RDreamer on Jul 9, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

M’s are sending some money

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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ryan Garko!

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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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by Gobroks on Jul 9, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rangers will get a couple of draft picks too.

Wilber Bucardo: Carlos Silva with a younger brother.

by gianator on Jul 9, 2010 2:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Seems like a pretty good deal for them.

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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am glad GM Zspellingtest has a soul and didn't give the Yankees Cliff Lee

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by RDreamer on Jul 9, 2010 2:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Anyone have any intel on these other prospects
4:31pm: The Mariners also get right-hander Josh Lueke and second baseman Matthew Lawson, according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (via Twitter). Multiple other reports confirm that the Mariners obtain Lueke, Lawson, Beavan and Smoak for Lowe, Lee and cash.

4:20pm: The Mariners will acquire two pitchers and a position player, plus Smoak, according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (via Twitter). MLB.com’s T.R. Sullivan says 21-year-old righty Blake Beavan is also in the trade (Twitter link). Baseball America ranked the 2007 first rounder 17th among Rangers prospects before the season

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by DFARowand on Jul 9, 2010 2:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Beavan has super low K and BB rates. He’s apparently a bit of a groundballer?

Lueke looks like a power reliever. He’s got some crazy K numbers this year and the walks aren’t bad either. I think he also might have once been accused of rape?

Lawson seems pretty mediocre – .800ish OPS in AA as a 24 year old.

As someone said above, none were in the Rangers top 10 prospects before the season.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it seems like at LSB the people who hate the trade are entirely focused on Smoak, not the others.

by Duelling Brandos on Jul 9, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

OOh maybe that’s why Lueke is at a low level for age with those K rates.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lueke is a 25 year old reliever who hadn’t hit AA until this year (he started in A+) and he premiered in 2007. Great K numbers, low walk totals. Gives up hits though.

Lawson = meh.

Beavan has low K and walk rates, and also keeps getting fatter with each passing year. Up to 6’7 250 now.

And Smoak, who hasn’t really been as impressive as he was expected to be upon being drafted.

Yankees package would have been better IMO. Montero is an elite bat prospect, McAllister I like better than Beavan, and Adams had some upside left (Sickels had him as a sleeper if he continued to hit with power in AA this year) and he has been productive when healthy this year.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 9, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lawson: 2B, Age 24 season in AA: .280/.371/.440 in Texas League (big hitter’s league). Looks like organizational filler unless he has some kind of epic glove.

Lueke: RHP, Age 25 season split between A and AA: 2.31 BB/9, 14.31 K/9, all as reliever. Not very young for level, though. Needs to be pushed probably.

Neither of these guys are particularly special, but that Lueke K rate is HIGHLY intriguing.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even saw the lights of the Goodyear Blimp
And it read Cliff Lee’s a pimp
Yanks offered Montero, but we screwed that up
Today I didn’t even have to deal my Beltre
I got to say it was a good trade.

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:47 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Also

FUCK THA YANKEES

Wilber Bucardo: Carlos Silva with a younger brother.

by gianator on Jul 9, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good call.

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Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Poor Cliff Lee/Cliff Lee’s family. Is that 3 teams in a year or so?

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 9, 2010 2:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Release the kraken!
"It’s a sham," Huff told CSNBayArea.com by phone Friday morning from Washington, D.C. "To me, the All-Star Game is retarded."

"It’s so backward, it’s a joke," said Huff, a 33-year-old veteran of 11 big-league seasons who has never been an All-Star. "I mean, if you want to make the game mean something and be so important with the World Series thing, why are you letting the fans pick the starters?

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by jctGamer on Jul 9, 2010 2:54 PM PDT reply actions  

lol angy

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by jponry on Jul 9, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

AUBREY MOTHERUCKING HUFF.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

That’s our Aubrey.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me likey

Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels

by capn on Jul 9, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like him even more now.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 9, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know that letting the fans pick is so terrible

it’s letting people vote unlimited numbers of times that’s particularly dumb. If they want to do this they should just pick one day and hand out ballots at every MLB and MiLB park. Want to vote? Go to a game.

Either way “this time it counts” is bad.

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

and very few on the visiting teams will win votes

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 9, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

they should do: Buy a ticket, get a ballot.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 9, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s how it used to be. And some teams (I remember A’s fans doing this in late 80s) would have fans with nail boards to punch out all of their own players. Ballot box stuffing isn’t new

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh

They make more money from TV than from ticket sales anyway, no? The AS game is for people at home, not the 40,000 who get to watch it in person.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t mean buy a ticket to the ASG, I meant go to any game and get one ballot. I agree, it’s just stupid to make an exhibition game count for something. that defeats the purpose.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 9, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, OK, I misread that.

I have to ask, though – would it really be that better if home field advantage just alternated year to year, like it used to? I mean, what’s better about that? It’s just as random (technically, more).

I’d do it by the Interleague record, but if we can’t have something that makes sense, I don’t really care.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

The man has a point. Then again it’s not like managers do a great job picking players either. LOL INFANTE!

by Hobbes2d on Jul 9, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's an exhibition for Chrissakes

And the fans pick better than Charlie Manuel.

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Jul 9, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m glad Aubrey Huff is a Giant.

Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.

by neurofarm on Jul 9, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure we’d hate this comment if it came from a player on another team.

But it didn’t, so LOL.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jul 9, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d still like it. The All-Star game is a joke.

Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.

by neurofarm on Jul 9, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would like it regardless.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I laughed extra hard at the use of the term “retarded.”

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really like Aubrey Huff. I would not be adverse to him playing for the Giants in 2011.

"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages

by mymclife on Jul 9, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

/two-year contract extension
/.230 / .310 / .370 line in 2011
/Giants blame it on injury

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Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.

by jcb9 on Jul 9, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 yr 12M?

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by jctGamer on Jul 9, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s worked so well in the past!

Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.

by neurofarm on Jul 9, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

i wouldn't mind him signing for one more year

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really want Shin-Soo Choo, if we’re making wish lists.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 9, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's a tarp

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...

by greatgiantfan on Jul 9, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

4:47pm: The Yankees, not surprisingly, are livid with the Mariners, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (via Twitter). The Yanks thought they had a deal, but the Mariners told the Rangers they could have Lee if they included Smoak and there went the Yankees’ hopes of getting Lee.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 9, 2010 2:57 PM PDT reply actions  

LOLYANKEES

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Jul 9, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1 (even though they will still win the WS)

Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels

by capn on Jul 9, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah. fuck them. it’s about time they get screwed over.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 9, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like to hear this.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boo to the motherfuckin hoo

WHAAAA!!! WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN’T HAVE ALL OF THE GOOD PLAYERS IN THE LEAGUE!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 9, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

THEY HAVEN’T WON A CHAMPIONSHIP IN SOOO LONG

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 9, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate them so much.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s ok the joke will be on the Mariners when the Yankees win the World Series without Lee and then sign him in the off-season. And the Mariners won’t be getting compensated for it, the Rangers will.

by Hobbes2d on Jul 9, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

so true

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by capn on Jul 9, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

it must have been so hard to not add "and there went the yankees hopes up in smoak

"Life is like a grapefruit. Well, it's sort of orangy-yellow and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, too. Oh, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."

by operation carrot on Jul 9, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

The tweet says :

#Yankees livid with #Mariners. Believed they had deal, then M’s took it to #Rangers saying put Smoak in and Lee is yours… #MLB

Seems they are upset that the Mariners taking the Yankees offer and shopped it to the Rangers. They do have a point, deals in place are supposed to be confidential, you shouldn’t be able to take it to another team and disclose “hey the Yankees are willing to offer these 3 players,..”

Not that I mind them getting screwed, just it seems they are mad about the Mariners not being ethical.

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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Jul 9, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

They do have a point. But here’s a counterpoint: fuck the Yankees.

by Evan on Jul 9, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yankees getting mad about ethics?

Fuck them.

Wilber Bucardo: Carlos Silva with a younger brother.

by gianator on Jul 9, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've never really considered the Yankees unethical

They are assholes, sure, but I don’t think they are unethical.

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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Jul 9, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

In the same way that the Bilderbergs aren't unethical

They have all the money so they do what they want. The world belongs to them anyway, right?

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Jul 9, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meh. It seems like the kind of thing that evens itself out. Team acts like a dick, fewer teams want to do business with them.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

OMG RANGERS
SUCK IT YANKEES
+1 MARINERS

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 9, 2010 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

rec'd

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 9, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tyler Walker Getting Greased Up

I can’t wait for this. No one epitomizes getting greased up in the bullpen more than Walker, especially in the DC summertime.

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...

by greatgiantfan on Jul 9, 2010 3:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Polar bear!

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anecdote

I went to Comerica Park in Detroit to see a Giants game a few years ago. I stood in the outfield watching Tyler warm up with some soft toss. When he was done, he looked into the stands, tossed a ball in my direction (which was a fairly far distance), and said “make sure the guy in the Woody jersey gets it”.

<3

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jul 9, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

cool. did sweat fly off of it?

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...

by greatgiantfan on Jul 9, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love that story! Tyler is a doll.

by kdl on Jul 9, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh, kiddle:)

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...

by greatgiantfan on Jul 9, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

that was the series where he walked the bases loaded and then struck out the side.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 9, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Friend's facebook post
Miami is spamming trade chat trying to sell NBA titles. But I inspected their group and only see one person with the acheivement.

If you get this, you are a fucking nerd like me.

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by jctGamer on Jul 9, 2010 3:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Baseball, anyone?

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Jul 9, 2010 4:07 PM PDT reply actions  

It’s high. It’s deep. It’s outa here.

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Jul 9, 2010 4:10 PM PDT reply actions  

what's up with the west Giants

Take a look at how the Giants are playing against the East and Central. Then take a look at how the Gnats are doing against the West. Something has to give for them to get back into this thing. The West is tough but I have to believe SD will fall out of first right after the allstar break. Also LA pitching is suspect. COL has Jimenez but who else. Come on Gnats turn into Giants against the West.

PS. Thanks Dumba** Sabean and Dumbsh** Bochy. We know why MadBum and Pose didn’t get the call until they did. It is all about the money and never about the pennant.

by Longtimewaiting on Jul 10, 2010 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

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