minor lines, 7/7/10
by steve S on Jul 8, 2010 9:29 AM PDT
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PrintWednesday highlights from the Giants' farm: Eric Surkamp had a career-high 14 K in 7.0 shutout IP, and Chris Dominguez homered on a multi-hit evening. Also notable, Joe Martinez allowed just 2 ER in 7.0 IP.
AAA: Fresno lost Colorado Springs 7-1
Fresno: CF Eugenio Velez: 3 for 5
Fresno: 1B Brett Pill: 1 for 2, 2 BB
Colorado Springs: 2B Kaz Matsui: 5 for 5, 2 2B, SB
Fresno: SP Joe Martinez: 7.0 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 5 K--2 WP
Colorado Springs: SP Greg Smith: 6.2 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 2 K--1 HB
Velez had three of the Grizzlies' eight hits, raising his AVG to .310. Pill also reached base three times, walking twice, although his BB/AB ratio remains below 7.5%. His OBP is currently .349, which would be a career-high. Matsui, who is now in the Rockies' organization but is perhaps most famous for his extended at bat against Brian Wilson earlier this year, had five hits to raise his AVG to .268 in 127 AB in the PCL.
Martinez's second start with the Grizzlies since being optioned back to the minors was a quality start. He threw 75 of 104 pitches for strikes and had a 11/6 GO/FO line. He was outdueled by the former-Athletic Smith, who picked up his first win in his eighth start this year.
AA: Richmond lost to Harrisburg 4-0
Richmond: 1B Brandon Belt: 2 for 3, BB
Richmond: RF Clay Timpner: 0 for 3, 3 SO
Richmond: SP Craig Westcott: 5.0 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 3 BB, 4 K--1 HR
Richmond: RP Andy Sisco: 2.0 IP, 2 H, 3 K
Belt had the Flying Squirrels' only two hits and one of their two walks. After a hot start to the season, Timpner has cooled off. After striking out in all three plate appearances yesterday, his AVG since the start of June is below .220.
Westcott has allowed 2 ER in both of his starts in the upper minors. His peripheral stats over his last two starts are 11 H, 5 BB, and 7 K in 11.0 IP. He continues to pitch well despite a K/BB ratio well below 2.00. Sisco struck out three of his seven batters, raising his K/BB to just above 2.40.
A+: San Jose defeated Stockton 3-0
San Jose: CF Francisco Peguero: 2 for 3, HBP, SB
San Jose: 2B Charlie Culberson: 2 for 4, SO, SB
San Jose: C Johnny Monell: 1 for 3, HR, BB, SO
Stockton: SS Grant Green: 0 for 4, 3 SO
San Jose: SP Eric Surkamp: 7.0 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 14 K--1 HB, 1 E
San Jose: RP Jason Stoffel: 1.0 IP, 2 K
Peguero reached base three times, raising his OBP to .320. Culberson had the Giants' other multi-hit line, while Monell added his 7th HR. All three aforementioned Giants also had a stolen base. Green, the Athletics' top prospect on the Ports roster, had the oh-fer with the hat trick.
Surkamp had perhaps the best start of his career, striking out 14 of the 26 batters he faced. The career-high 14 K raised his K/IP above 1.00. Through fifteen starts he has many strikeouts as hits and walks combined (75 H, 21 BB, and 96 K in 92.0 IP). Stoffel finished the shutout with two more strikeouts in a perfect 9th inning.
A-: Augusta lost to Lexington 4-1
Augusta: 3B Chris Dominguez: 2 for 4, HR, SO
Augusta: SP Jorge Bucardo: 6.0 IP, 5 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 4 BB, 3 K--1 HB, 1 WP
Dominguez had his 13th HR and was the only GreenJacket to reach base twice. His rate stats are now .275/.319/.453 through 349 AB.
Bucardo seems to have slipped into a small rut since the SAL all-star break. He has allowed 11 ER in three starts since the break after just 14 ER in thirteen starts beforehand. This may have also been his first start of the year with walks than strikeouts. His K/BB ratio slipped below 3.00.
ssA: Salem-Keizer had their first scheduled off-day
(Their next scheduled off-day is July 27.)
R: Giants lost to Mariners 10-3
Scottsdale: CF Chuckie Jones: 1 for 4, HR, SO
Scottsdale: RF Devin Harris: 3 for 4, 2B
Scottdale: SP Lorenzo Mendoza: 4.0 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 1 ER, 0 BB< 3 K
Scottsdale: RP David Newton: 1.0 IP
Scottsdale: RP Kelvin Marte: 0.2 IP, 4 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 1 K
Harris had first pro XBH as part of his second pro multi-hit game, raising his SLG to a sub-par .300. Jones, the Giants' eighth rounder, had his 1st pro HR.
Mendoza had his second straight start with 1 ER in 4.0 IP. Through four starts he has an ERA below 3.00 despite allowing more than twice as many hits as strikeouts (19 H vs 9 SO in 16.0 IP). In their second appearances of the year, Newton pitched a perfect 5th inning, but Marte allowed hits to four of his six batters.
DSL: Giants lost to Phillies 4-1
Dominican: LF Leonardo Fuentes: 2 for 4, 2 SO
Dominican: SP Joan Gregorio: 5.0 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 0 K--2 HB, 2 WP
Fuentes (17.7 y.o.) had his his first multi-hit game in over a week. He still has more strikeouts than hits (26 H vs 29 SO in 102 AB, .255 AVG). The lanky Gregorio (18.5 y.o.) has allowed just 7 ER through his first seven pro starts, although yesterday was his first start without a strikeout.
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so yeah... Belt is still awesome
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jul 8, 2010 9:34 AM PDT reply actions
There’s a lot to like here:
YEAH JOEY
BELT (our 2011 starting 1B?)
Surkamp!
Chuckie Jones has installed dingerz.exe
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I’m really, really praying we’re not dumb enough to trade Belt. I don’t think there’s any way he starts next season up here, but I could easily see him arriving as a midseason call-up.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jul 8, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
In my optimistic bent, I’m thinking Belt in 2012. I hope the Giants don’t trade him and they rely on Ishikawa or Huff (depending on his second half) as a one year stopgap for 2011, or do a one-year deal with another first baseman.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 8, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
We'll need Joey to keep pitching well
Esp since he’d probably be the one to get the call if Sanchez gets traded.
Good outing though, JMart is not a great pitcher, but he does what he does well: throw strikes, and keep the ball low. That’s all you can ask.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Not to be all catastrophizing or nothing, but Jorge has certainly seemed like a different pitcher ever since that moronic stunt of bringing him out of the bullpen on one day’s rest in the final game of the first half.
Prior to that appearance he had a 7 game stretch in which he averaged nearly 7 innings per start, 8.94 K/9, a 3.44 k/bb, and allowed 5 earned runs total, with an FIP of 2.44.
Beginning with that relief appearance, he has a 6.27 k/9, a 2.2 k/bb and a 6.27 ERA (with a FIP of nearly 4).
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Just 3, but in those three games he’s allowed 3 or more runs for the third, fourth, and fifth times this season (after allowing 2 in his 1 inning of relief work). yesterday’s game was his second highest walk total. They’ve also encompassed the third and fourth lowest K totals of any start this season.
Certainly could just be a bump in the long road, but I’d personally be happy to drive to Georgia and give Machemer a kick in the nuts that move anyway.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
That was just so they’ll be half season champions, right? Yeah, that’s terrible.
I was promised lasagna.
Yeah
Hopefully it’s just a few game blip, but it’s hard not to be worried when there was a clearly dangerous decision made right at the point when the blip started.
If I remember correctly, they even had a few more chances to clinch after that day. He should have been fired on the spot.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Zach Wheeler starting tonight
After spending more than six weeks on the disabled list, pitcher Zack Wheeler has returned to the Augusta GreenJackets’ active roster and will get the start for Thursday’s game at Lake Olmstead Stadium, according to a team official.
Wilber Bucardo: Carlos Silva with a younger brother.
And he got selected to the Futures Game?
I missed this..
Wheeler’s start may be the only action he sees for the GreenJackets before leaving for Anaheim next week to pitch for the U.S. Team in the Major League Baseball All Star Futures Game.
Wilber Bucardo: Carlos Silva with a younger brother.
“May be”? The Futures Game is in three days on the other side of the country. When exactly does the writer think he could possibly see more action?
Also, if he leaves for Anaheim next week I’d say he’s gonna miss the game.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Yes, that what I figured, I was just having a little sport with Augusta’s finest journalists.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Well
Given the way Bucardo was recently handled, maybe he’ll get into a few games.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
As of this past Tuesday, it’s been 7 weeks since he last pitched (may 18th). I hope that they don’t get too aggressive with his workload, and that he’s been using this downtime to get some expert coaching in AZ or elsewhere.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Wheeler struck out the side today and gave up a run. He threw 94-97 mph, according to Billy Byler of the Augusta Chronicle.
Feast or famine
Wheeler K’d or gave up a hit to all 5 hitters that he faced. He K’d the first batter, gave up a single to the 2nd guy (who was only hitting .189 at the time), then gave up a run-scoring triple to the 3rd batter. He did come back to K the last 2 batters with the runner at 3rd.
It’s good to see that he didn’t walk anybody – that was his main failing before he busted his fingernail.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Sigh, Richmond
The Squirrels now have a total of 4 hits and no runs in their past 17 innings, and our newest top-5 prospect, Mike Main, has given up 5 runs, 3 hits, 3 BBs and no Ks through 4 innings.
I swear the club will continue to be jinxed until they tear down that 40 foot tall poster of Hank Aaron behind the CF fence.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
San Jose on TV again
as they visit Stockton, that’s for Comcast subscribers. It’s channel 104 for me.
Surkamp was throwing a Randy Wolf style slow curve that slashed across the strike zone, Monell catching it at the knees and getting the call. Then he would sneak in a high FB by surprise. Grant Green looked especially bad against Surkamp—wasn’t he a high draft pick?
proud, yes I said proud, adoptive papa of "Geno" Eugenio Velez
Surkamp
minorleaguesplits.com has Surkamp with a 3.81 MLE FIP. That’s impressive. Time for AA? I mean, he is in his age 22 season (23 on July 16), so he’s age-appropriate for a prospect in AA.
And oh – it’s nice to see Belt treating AA like he treated A+ (small sample be damned! he’s awesome!)
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 8, 2010 10:39 AM PDT reply actions
Re: Belt
I’m hoping that his mere presence in the daily lineup will begin to have an impact on some of the other hitters for Richmond (I’m looking at you Neal, Kieschy, and Crawford (now appears to be out for the season)), like it seems to have done at SJ with Culby and Fairley. Seeing a hitter every day that knows what he’s doing at the plate, and is successful with his approach, has to make an impact on anybody that wants to be the best.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I’m reminded that late in 2002 there was an interesting “race” going on as to whether Barry Bonds would accumulate more BBs in that season than teammate Shawon Dunston had managed in his entire 18 year career.
Bonds came up just shy: 198 to 203. but of course he smashed through that mark two years later.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Baggs and Schulman both tweeting that Crawford’s out 6-8 weeks with a broken finger, so basically his season’s over. Hit by a line drive off a fungo during BP.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Not such a bad thng IMO
It’ll probably keep BS from calling him up in Sept. just to have Big-Head sit him on the bench and start his arb clock for no reason.
Also, this means he most likely will play in the AFL again, or some other winter league. Next year he should move to Fresno and we’ll see what he’s learned.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
September call ups don’t really have any affect on the arb clock. He’s not on the 40 man so it could conceivably affect his option clock, though not absolutely as its conceivable he would have been added to the 40 man this winter anyway.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Are you sure about the arb clock situation? I always thought the Sept. call-ups didn’t affect it, but then in the last few years I’ve read reports that contradicted my previous understanding. For example, Posey was called-up last Sept. and all the stories I’ve read said that those days he spent on the SF roster last year do count towards his arb clock – and specifically toward his making the Super 2 list after the 2011 season.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
This is what achiappanza quoted from a brew-crew ball post last year when Posey was called up:
For the first three seasons of a major leaguer’s career, his salary is determined entirely by his team, and his contract can be renewed by the team if the two sides cannot reach an agreement on his salary (this happened to Prince Fielder in 2008). After the third season, the player becomes eligible for salary arbitration, which usually creates a large increase in salary. After three seasons of arbitration, the player is eligible for free agency.
The exception to the three-year rule listed above is a "Super 2" player. A player who has only played two full major league seasons and part of a third can qualify for arbitration if he:
* Played in the majors for at least 86 days in the previous season
* Is among the top 17 percent for cumulative playing time in the majors amongst others with at least 2 years, but less than 3 years experience
Link: http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/9/2/1012419/buster-posey-called-up#20635298
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
Time on the active (25-man) roster counts as service time, whether in September or not.
Time on the active roster in September does not count towards rookie of the year status according to BBWAA rules, but that rule is generally ignored for considering whether someone is a prospect.
In regards to Crawford, this strikes me as trivial. How much does anyone expect him to make in his arbitration years? He may well be a future everyday major leaguer, but he does not currently strike me as the type of hitter who puts a real dent in the payroll. And if that ends up happening, I think we’ll all be pretty happy to have that problem of the Giants’ shortstop is so good that he stands to make too much in arbitration.
To clarify, when I said it “doesn’t really” affect the arb clock, I meant the results of September callup tends not to be a big differentiating factor. Unless a player ends up as a Super 2 they still have to put in three full seasons before they’re arb eligible. As the vast majority of players have a good deal of up and down at the start of their career, it tends to take at least 4 years before they become eligible. As for instance Brian Wilson who will pass the 3 years mark this year is in his 5th season. Jonathan Sanchez who snuck past the 3 years last year and was arb eligible is also in his 5th season. Scheirholtz is in his 4th season and will barely reach the 2 years mark of service time this year — he’ll have to stay on 25 man rosters until the end of the 2011 mark to become eligible for arbitration (the end of his 5th season).
Yes the days count as service time, but as a lot of 40 man roster prospects spend September in the big leagues it doesn’t have the same affect in differentiating your service time that being called up in April or May would. True, if a player is called up in May who has also spent time in the majors in September, and he never goes down again, that accumulation could help kick that player into Super 2 status, but in Crawford’s case, I’m basically assuming he’s not close enough to the big leagues, or to be a big leaguer for good, for that to be a concern.
To have been more clear, I should perhaps have said “pragmatically, a September call up is not likely to affect Crawford’s arb clock.”
One thing that’s starting to become clear is that team’s are outguessing themselves on the Super 2 games — as more and more front offices wait until an imaginary date to make their call ups, the effective date for Super 2s is moving as well, deeper and deeper into the season, and some teams that thought they were being clever are going to end up paying the bill anyway. Jay Bruce is one of the first of these players, who was intentionally kept on the farm until the Reds thought they had avoided Super 2 status but has turned out to be one of the last players in the Super 2 pool. I’m assuming there will be a lot more of these guys in the next few years and a lot more “uh ohs” emanting from front offices.
It seems very likely that Posey will be a Super 2. But we did need him in the lineup, and at least we won’t be one of those teams in 2.5 years who thought we kept him down long enough to avoid paying, only to find out that we held in Fresno an extra month for nothing.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Crap
That sucks. He really needs as many ABs as possible.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
That's not good
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
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Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
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