State of the Giants' farm system: Avert thine eyes
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 7, 2010 11:52 AM PDT
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Remember when I wrote my top 30 prospects list? Of course you do. SportsCenter wouldn’t shut up about it. Well, if you’re in a good mood today, I apologize. It’s time to review just how those exciting prospects are doing.
Exceeding expectations
Jorge Bucardo (#14)
Jose Casilla (#21
Meeting expectations
Buster Posey (#1)
Madison Bumgarner (#2)
Dan Runzler (#9)
Eric Surkamp (#13)
Hector Sanchez (#16)
Brock Bond (#27)
Slightly disappointing
Thomas Neal (#3)
Brandon Crawford (#7)
Clayton Tanner (#19)
Chris Dominguez (#26)
Ryan Cavan (#30)
Disappointing
Nick Noonan (#6)
Tommy Joseph (#10)
Ehire Adrianza (#11)
Francisco Peguero (#12)
Henry Sosa (#20)
Waldis Joaquin (#23)
Jason Stoffel (#24)
Craig Clark (#25)
Oh...oh...dear god...why....
Rafael Rodriguez (#5)
Roger Kieschnick (#8)
Aaron King (#15)
Conor Gillaspie (#17)
Darren Ford (#18)
Mike McBryde (#29)
Incomplete
Zack Wheeler (#4)
Matthew Graham (#22)
Edward Concepcion (#28)
A few notes:
- Brandon Belt was a just-miss from the original list, as was Ryan Rohlinger, so they would have added a little bit of optimism to the top of the list.
- It’s probably overreacting to put Rafael Rodriguez where he is, as he’s still just a zygote and the sample is small. Still, yeesh, he hasn’t been good.
- When I write that Buster Posey is "meeting expectations", I mean that he’s the incandescent ball of awesome I was expecting. When I write that Brock Bond is doing the same, I mean that he’s doing things in Fresno that show promise he’ll be a solid utility man someday.
- Of the "Dear god...why" group, I’ll go with Kieschnick as the biggest disappointment. He’s a 23-year-old corner outfielder -- he doesn’t have the same margin for error that Nick Noonan might.
The farm system that I was so excited about in March is a big reason why I don’t want the Giants to make a trade in July. The team would either a) be selling low, or b) getting rid of one of the two or three prospects who are actually producing. And for what, Corey Hart? Nah.
So here’s hoping for a Gary Brown-led renaissance. The Giants aren’t going to spend on international free agents this year, so if the draft was a dud, the bleak will get bleaker.
Have a nice day.
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All you OBP nerds
Are going to be so wrong when Gary Brown hits .400 his rookie year!
All things considered, our farm system has been decimated by our best prospects coming up and helping the team, which is probably the best way to decimate a farm system.
QUESTION FOR GRANT: Where would Michael Main have ranked on your top 30?
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Yeah I’m not too displeased by this now that our best prospects have made it up to the big leagues. The only thing that really worries me is that we still have no middle infield option to be optimistic about.
You want to see a walk? Then go watch the mailman.
This much is true
I have high hopes for Rohlinger, but I think his ceiling is probably as a Mark DeRosa type (minus the flappy tendons).
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
I think Rohlinger could too
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
I think Matt Downs could do the same
"Row(and) will come out of this. You stay with your guys and he is one of our guys." - Bruce Bochy 05-31-10
"...and with Titanic's transverse bulkheads and watertight doors, it renders this vessel practically unsinkable." - "Shipbuilder" magazine, 1912
As do I.....
parental bias aside. My preference for solied utility guys still exsists. I been watching Eric Sogard of the A’s/Rivercats over the past few days. Picked up from the Pad’s in the Hairston/Kouzmanoff deal, he looks to be a keeper. Solid bat, plays 3B,SS, 2B. How is it Beane is able to find undervalued guys like this while Sabes sits on his hands ?
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soiled?
When this .sig was awaiting the Final Sabean Apocalypse, I never once in a million years suspected it would be a "good" Apocalypse. Bengie... Don't let the door hit you IN YOUR GIANT ASS on the way out!
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game totally stalled and basically dead at this point
/Fail..
posting between meetings. How about "solid.
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I think the “soiled” motion already passed. You’ll have to appeal.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
All Opposed ..
how can you not like a guy that looks like he should be on the IT staff instead of the field ?
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He looks like Howie except that he can grow facial hair.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 7, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
in soviet russia, run scores you!....and giants still have terrible offense
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Jul 7, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Just think of it as “solid” with a three-stooges-Curly accent.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
why soitinley
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How is it Beane is able to find undervalued guys like this while Sabes sits on his hands ?
I think this is probably where most of the Beane hate originates. If he were so good at finding undervalued guys, he would’t be giving them away to NL West teams for bags of magic beans (LOL MAGIC BEANES!)
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 7, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Beane like Sabean
is past his prime, if I had to compare him to a baseball player he’s Jason Giambi. Good, but overrated in his prime and still a threat to go long, but can’t handle the day to day.
by Giant Torture on Jul 7, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
How is it Beane is able to find undervalued guys like this while Sabes sits on his hands ?
Um, Juan Uribe, who last year had one of the best undervalued utility-guy years in the history of utilitarianism?
Andres Torres, who has gone from scrap heap utility outfielder to one of the best leadoff men in the game?
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Also, like, everyone in the bullpen last year
It would be nice if he could, you know, get some legit talent as well, but he has found some nice bargains.
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Scrapheap warrior!
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 7, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes Lefty, my comment may have been a little harsh. Uribe was undervalued his first year. I also believe that he played well over his historical averages in 2009. He has performed well this year, but I think his overuse will come into play later this year.
Torres is a different bird. It appears that he was injured most of his career and has just now come into his own. As with Uribe, the performance would not appear to be sustainable.
Most likely Sabean, took a risk, got lucky, and I am not dissapointed with that fact.
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FWIW, Mark DeRosa had a bunch of pretty average years (as his 96 career OPS+ might attest). The best year he’s ever had was a 117 OPS+ and he’s only had 3 seasons above average in his career (108, 114, and 117 OPS+ seasons) and all of those seasons came in his 30s, after he hit Free Agency so they weren’t cost controlled.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
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DeRosa
Mark DeRosa had some really good years
I still say “really good for a super-utilty guy”, not for a left fielder.
"That sort of thing only happens to white people."
- Kirby Puckett joking about the fairy-tale nature of his friend, Cal Ripken Jr., homering in his final All-Star Game
Well yes and I doubt Rohlinger would ever be brought up to be our left fielder
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Right
Oh. Context. Pertinent again.
"That sort of thing only happens to white people."
- Kirby Puckett joking about the fairy-tale nature of his friend, Cal Ripken Jr., homering in his final All-Star Game
IMPERTINENT!
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 7, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
He can hit enough given his great defense at SS
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
any chance we will see him sooner than later? i for one prefer him over Burriss.
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I would think that's unlikely
The sooner part, as he should probably put in time in Fresno as well.
As for Burriss, he’s got no business being on an MLB roster, so hopefully they can figure something else out.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Baggs is making a lot of noise that Rent is done and that we are shopping SS’s. That scares me.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 7, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe he’s the heir apparent at SS, possibly even to start 2011. So, hopefully his bat improves.
Uribe will likely be the opening day SS in 2011.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 7, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Rent has an option...
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Tell me it’s Japan.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
it’ll be on a shuffleboard court somewhere.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 7, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
That's what my sig has said for 1.5 years now lol
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
OMG!
What else can you tell about my future?!
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sheeeit
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At least Burriss is back to playing SS this year. Seems like they had kinda given up on him playing there last year.
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
That’s a bummer. Although I do like Rollinger better. Baseball Ref does show that Burriss has about the same amount of games at SS as 2b this year but they don’t do game logs.
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
20 HR from Rohlinger?
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Caught me there
I think I meant pre-2006 magic-power-development DeRosa.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
I feel like the team is grooming Rohlinger. He’s been playing SS almost exclusively, while Burriss has been mostly playing 2B. He’s hitting/slugging/getting on base better than Burriss, also, though Burris has half as many AB’s.
75k don't grow on trees
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
i want a felt Fred Lewis!
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
Leather Lewis!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 7, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL WALKS!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 7, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
This is all sorts of wrong.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
He's a young prospect who's struggling in AA
That’s not a recipe for call-up success.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
It’s still at least one year too early for that. Sadly.
"Row(and) will come out of this. You stay with your guys and he is one of our guys." - Bruce Bochy 05-31-10
"...and with Titanic's transverse bulkheads and watertight doors, it renders this vessel practically unsinkable." - "Shipbuilder" magazine, 1912
Live in Richmond
And have seen Neal 8 or 9 times this year and I don’t want to rain on your parade, but I don’t have very high hopes for him. He just doesn’t seem to make adjustments to what pitchers are doing, of course now that I’ve said this he will go on to a HOF career, you’re all welcome.
by Giant Torture on Jul 7, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Scary stuff
When you’re getting hitting advice from Tony Pena Jr, you’re not a very good hitter I guess
It is, unfortunately, so.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
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by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 7, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Good to see a few other products of the California public school system.
by Giant Torture on Jul 7, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
From the tales told by my friends working in the NYC public school system...
…those who can’t teach do so anyway.
My son is Madison Bumgarner, the Invisible Shark of pitching prospects. My other son is a Porsche.
What's the latest on the ballpark there?
Will a new park have to be built? Does there seem to be a political will to do that anytime soon?
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"...and with Titanic's transverse bulkheads and watertight doors, it renders this vessel practically unsinkable." - "Shipbuilder" magazine, 1912
Doubtful
But the Diamond isn’t a bad place to watch a AA game, they keep saying that they need a new park, but the Diamond is right off the freeway and seats a lot more people than most AA parks. With the economy the way it is I doubt anyone is going to eat a tax hike or use of public funds for a baseball field
by Giant Torture on Jul 7, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I think when the whole move to Richmond idea was first hatched it was based on a plan that was on the books to redevelop that area of Richmond and build a new stadium, but those days are dead and buried. There’s no way that’s happening on Virginia’s tab.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Just for comparison’s sake, when Morneau was a year younger than Neal is now he put up a .298/.356/.474 line in the same league (EL). When he was Neal’s age, he put up an .843 OPS in the IL and finished the year with 40 pretty bad games in the majors (.664 OPS). Amazingly, the Twins did not give up on him after those 40 games and send him back to AAA!
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Amazingly, the Twins did not give up on him after those 40 games and send him back to AAA!
Because Ron Gardenhire is not Bruce Bochy and Bill Smith is not Brian Sabean
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And yet right
As it’s a better option than trading for Corey Hart.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
The Hart hate makes no sense to me
He’s a plus defender and slugger. Sure, he doesn’t take a lot of walks, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t a good player.
I get the aversion to trading for a career-year player, but we don’t know what it’ll take to get him yet. He’s good, and not old either. He would add value to this team.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Absolutely
But you saying “Corey Hart = DNW” would seem to indicate that you don’t want him at all, no matter the cost.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
I'm too used to
Sabes give up too much for a guy like Hart
But I’d love to have him, sure…at the right price
No, it doesn't
It means DNW at the likely cost to get him, obviously.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Not how I interpreted it...
Do Not Want seems to be relatively absolute.
But we could be reading it different ways, and my way could be wrong. Wouldn’t be the first time.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
You need to assume some level of common sense
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
I DNW Jermaine Dye
I DNW Yuniesky Betancourt
Because those players would make the team worse, no matter what their cost was.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
And I DNW Hart because he’ll make the organization, all costs considered, worse overall. He would (possibly) be an improvement for this year, but at what cost to future years? And it’s questionable if he’s really even an upgrade given his last 2 years.
Also, I believe next year is his last year of team control, and he’ll be pretty damn expensive given all the ribeyes.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
OTOH
Hart’s ribeyes would probably give us 2 draft picks in the 2012 draft…
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
A lot of assumptions go into that
That, plus the fact that it’s 2 years away, decimate most of its value.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
you win the pedantic award
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Well the Brewers have stated they are looking for someone to overpay. Which with Sabes might mean anything from MadBum to Cain.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Of course I don't want the Giants to overpay for Hart
But he could help this team.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Yes
At the right price, he’d help the team, but I actually kinda like Huff in RF and then moving over to LF in later innings.
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by say hey nation on Jul 7, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I, of course, agree
I covet Prince far far more than I want Hart, but I wouldn’t mind either.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Huff has been great, no questions asked
But he’s playing over his head defensively, and he should play too much there.
Huff should be at first (sorry, Ishi) and Hart in right.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
shouldn't* play too much there
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Huff may be a little over his head in RF
That’s why I move him to LF in the later innings.
Huff has been VERY capabale in LF
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I can’t get a grip on his defense. UZR hates him, plus/minus thinks hes average-ish.
Ask me about my blog.
Because
He’s already getting expensive, he’s having a career year which is the wrong time to trade for him, and he’s NOT a plus defender or slugger.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Is this usage of “plus defender” a chasm that just engulfed me?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
It is not
It was mostly me talking out of my ass. More accurate would be “he is a not-minus defender”
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
UZR
Seems to think that he is a very minus defender.
by Giant Torture on Jul 7, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
try researching things before you say things. He’s not a “plus” anything before this year.
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True
But when your career UZR is -11.4, I think it’s safe to say that you’re a below average defender.
by Giant Torture on Jul 7, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
His other defensive statistics don’t come out nearly as bad though.
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I agree that he may not be that bad, but he’s still below average.
by Giant Torture on Jul 7, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Please show me evidence that Hart is a "plus" defender
I don’t remember saying anything about UZR
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Also
his offensive numbers are almost exactly the same as last year, except his FB% and HR/FB are wayyyyyyy up. IDK if something like that can be attributed to something he did, or if it’s just blind luck and due to regress. Seems fishy to me.
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I was the only one who said "plus"
And I’ve recanted.
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My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Question...
…is anything wrong with “good defender” or “very good”? Where does all this plus stuff come from? Always makes me think of 1984.
Double plus ungood defender.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 7, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
"plus" = "good" or "above average"
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he may have a good arm
but I’ve heard his defense is average at best
by 8thInningWeirdness on Jul 7, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
according to mlb 10
he’s a good defender. Maybe that’s what he was talking about
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he might have a good arm
but I’ve heard his defense is average at best.
by 8thInningWeirdness on Jul 7, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
oops
didn’t mean to post that twice.
by 8thInningWeirdness on Jul 7, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
A Plus Fielder?
Since when? Negative career UZR in right that would undoubtably become worse playing at AT&T.
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PUT COVER SHEETS ON YOUR TPS REPORTS
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Is it just me
Or is the font on MCC really small right now?
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Uh
Just you.
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My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
That's what I thought
It’s weird because MCC is the only site with this problem right now for me.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
hold down the ctrl key and use the scroll wheel on your mouse
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
Thank You
That worked
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
But that’s the browser zoom! It should have been every website. This doesn’t sound right. Somebody lied to me!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
It was just for MCC
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
That wouldn’t affect a single website, though. That would be the whole browser.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
For whatever reason
It worked now. MCC is back to a normal font and the rest of the sites are the same.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
I tested in on my computer and it only affects one tab at a time on firefox
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
Well, tabs are different. He didn’t say tabs. He said websites.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
It was websites
I didn’t have multiple tabs open.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
What browser?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I don’t understand it but you’re the one it was happening to. Weird.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
so in the same window you would navigate away from MCC and the font would go back to normal and then you would come back and it would be small again? Or did you have multiple windows open?
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
I had one window open and when I was on MCC it was a small font. When I left to another website, the font would be normal again. When I cam back to MCC the font would be small again. All of this would happen in one window until I did the browser trick you told me to do.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
/is late to the party
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by say hey nation on Jul 7, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it just McC or is it every website? Your browser zoom might be screwed up. It’s easier to do than you might think!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
It's just McC.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
I don’t know what’s wrong then.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
SF Pete figured it out
Thanks
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
SF PETE DESCRIBED THE STUPID BROWSER ZOOM PROBLEM I WAS TALKING ABOUT!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
SF Pete though told me how to use the browser zoom, you didn’t.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
I would have told you how to do it if the symptoms matched the malady.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
How jealous are you of SFPete right now
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
IT DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE THAT IT WAS ONLY ONE WEBSITE! I HAVE BEEN LIED TO I TELL YOU!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Calm down Howie
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
LIIIEEEED TOOOOOOOOOO!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I have green eyes
Does jealousy come to all people with green eyes?
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Green = Envy
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
THE GREAT GATSBY!
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Jul 7, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Daisy is black.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
The Lights! They are Green!…I think
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Jul 7, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
OTHELLO
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
If you have a PC and a Scroll wheel mouse, just hold down ctrl while you scroll the mouse wheel.
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by say hey nation on Jul 7, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
works with a mac too
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Actually
with a mac with a multitouch track pad, you can zoom in and out using that.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
If you can’t figure out what the actual default size was, you can hit ctrl + 0 to reset to default.
Daniel Turpen is a Giant Beaver
Wait
the guy we just got for Bengie?! Are you shitting me?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Seems reasonable
He’s at a higher level than most of our other prospects and still has a little of that 1st round pick shine left.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
And I like his stuff
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
You are such a flatterer!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 7, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
His junk is HAWT!
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 7, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
A good amount of upside there. A ridiculous steal, and I thought Chris Davis would have been a steal.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
I meant it in a shocked way
not like I was mocking them. I just can’t believe we got someone who’d be considered our number 2 starting pitcher prospect for bengie.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
And Ray to boot!
As I said on Lone Star Ball, most of us would have been satisfied with Bengie just getting DFA’d as a sunk cost. To get Ray and Main was just super!
It also might be an indication of how little we understand players’ value on the trade market. (I’m looking at you, Lewis, Frandsen and Alderson. ) When we bitch about Sabean should have got more, do we really know what we’re talking about?
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Meh, maybe
but it’s pretty obvious Toronto valued Lewis, because they hit him leadoff IMMEDIATELY after getting him and haven’t moved him since.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
For giggles, I looked up Bengie’s stats with the Rangers.
3 hits, none for extra bases. He has given up five SB’s in four games played (thrown out one).
Hehe.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I'm so glad he's not on our team anymore
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I have to think Main is pretty high on that list
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
I’d put Bucardo at the same level as Main. Also, I’d put Rosin, and the young latinos Armando Paniagua and Marvin Barrios just the next level down
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
What’s your take on Rosin? Does he remind you (height, delivery, stuff) of anybody in the majors? What’s his best-case upside?
"Row(and) will come out of this. You stay with your guys and he is one of our guys." - Bruce Bochy 05-31-10
"...and with Titanic's transverse bulkheads and watertight doors, it renders this vessel practically unsinkable." - "Shipbuilder" magazine, 1912
Armando Paniagua
Also, do you have any info on Paniagua? I follow the system relatively closely, and I don’t know anything about him. What does he throw? Have you seen any scouting reports?
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
I'd go
Main
Surkamp
Bucardo
But you could put those guys in any order and I wouldn’t argue.
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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by Gobroks on Jul 7, 2010 4:59 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Is Nick Noonan running out of the HES YOUNG excuse? I guess he’s age appropriate for AA, but AA has been hard on all the prospects this year.
Ask me about my blog.
Noonan vs Culberson
who’s the better prospect right now?
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 7, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
IDK, the only thing Noonan’s ever done thus far is be young, and this year he’s not even being young all that well. A lot of people pointed to Nick’s improved BB rate numbers in the second half last year as evidence that his game was evolving. I’m willing to give Charlie that same opportunity to shore up the BB/K rates in the second half of this year. Noonan really should have been kept back in SJ this year as well.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Noonan isn’t doing that bad. I mean, the line is ugly, but it’s not like he isn’t doing anything right. He’s got a 13.6% K rate, which, for a 21 y-o in AA (and a young 21 at that – turned 21 only 2 months ago) is really great. By comparison, when Pablo was that age, he was in A+, and his K rate was almost the same – 12.9%.
Obviously the lack of power and plate discipline is troubling, but he is st least showing good signs with his contact skills, and is still very young.
I was promised lasagna.
Eh, he’s not very young. I mean Jose Iglesias is very young, Anthony Rizzo is very young. Noonan’s just regular young, like Austin Romine kind of young.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
nah
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Jul 7, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s set to be a career minor leaguer.
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Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Jul 7, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
hahahahaha
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Is there a wilriv thing going on here?
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 7, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
There's always a wilriv thing going on.
Ain’t nothin but a willriv thang.
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by EliminateMe on Jul 7, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don’t know that it is clear cut that Noonan is the better prospect. Noonan never showed Charlie’s power or average in high A ball and has struggled in AA along with being on the DL for a while. I say it is a coin flip.
That said, Noonan also didn’t spend two abysmal years in low-A ball
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
He’s also the youngest guy on that AA team.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
But it’s not like he’s extraordinarily young for AA, and he really there isn’t anything at all about his offensive profile this year that looks even average, much less good. He’s never gotten shiny reviews for his defense. And this year he’s missing a bunch of time for injuries. It’s not a very good profile. Like Gillaspie he was supposed to have an advanced bat and it’s just never showed up in his pro career.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I don’t like Noonan a ton but we’re comparing him to Charlie Culberson here.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
It’s frankly hard to get worked up either way I guess. And Charlie, yeah, those are some ugly numbers in that history. But Noonan’s gotta show something at some point to keep getting a pass on these lists.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
And what about Flores?
Still 22 and .345/.387/.471 at SJ
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I would move Tommy Joseph (#10), Ehire Adrianza (#11) and Henry Sosa (#20) up one notch from disappointing to slightly disappointing. Joseph is young, has shown power potential and is steadily moving his average up. Ehire was rated too high in the list and is not totally sucking in high A ball and Sosa has not pitched badly.
Sosa has actually pitched pretty badly. His K/9 is down to 6 and he has a FIP of almost 5.00. You would have thought a power pitcher would get more strikeouts moving to the bullpen, rather than decidedly fewer.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Agree on ToJo and Adrianza.
Adrianza is a glove first propsect who is doing exactly what he did last year, but at a higher level. That seems more ‘slightly disappointed’ than disappointed. Joseph is showing power and is young for the level, so I am not too disappointed (yet).
Current Top-10?
1. Zach Wheeler
2. Brandon Belt
3. Gary Brown (if he signs, JINX!)
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
I’m having a hard time filling out the rest.
Ask me about my blog.
Main, Neal, ToJo probably in there somewhere
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Tommy Joseph
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
My boy
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Jul 7, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
1. Zach Wheeler
2. Brandon Belt
3. Gary Brown (if he signs, JINX!)
4. Main
5. Neal
6. Crawford
7. ToJo
8. Chuckie Jones
9. Some People from this years draft
10. Angel
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by say hey nation on Jul 7, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I am not down on Brown. I looked at clips of him and thought about all the comments about moving around while batting and looked at the numbers a little bit and thought about comps a bit. To my very amateur scouting abilities I thought, it would be a great pick if he could become Freddy Sanchez with plus speed?
Parker > Brown IMO
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by Gobroks on Jul 7, 2010 5:01 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
So maybe the question should be, where would we rank them now? This would assume (1) no Bumgarner and (2) no Posey and (3) no Runzler.
1. Thomas Neal
2. Brandon Belt
3. Zach Wheeler – just ’cause
4. Juan Carlos Perez
5. Henry Sosa
6. Chris Dominguez
7. Francisco Peguero
8. Brandon Crawford
9. Nick Noonan
10. Ryan Cavan
11. Brock Bond
"Row(and) will come out of this. You stay with your guys and he is one of our guys." - Bruce Bochy 05-31-10
"...and with Titanic's transverse bulkheads and watertight doors, it renders this vessel practically unsinkable." - "Shipbuilder" magazine, 1912
12. Tommy Joseph – again, just ‘cause
13. Michael Main
14. Charlie I can’t believe I’m typing this Culberson
"Row(and) will come out of this. You stay with your guys and he is one of our guys." - Bruce Bochy 05-31-10
"...and with Titanic's transverse bulkheads and watertight doors, it renders this vessel practically unsinkable." - "Shipbuilder" magazine, 1912
Just my opinion
You’ve got Dominguez, Noonan and Cavan way too high, and Crawford too low.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Also
Guys like Surkamp, Westcott, Rosin, Willoughby, Adrianza, and Paniagua have to be in the top 15.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I think I agree about Rosin – that was a bit too “off the top of my head.” Westcott looks promising as well. I could see sliding him into the top 15. I like the fact that Dominguez has stopped trying to hit everything over the fence – I take that as a sign of maturity, and I’m hoping for even better things to come.
"Row(and) will come out of this. You stay with your guys and he is one of our guys." - Bruce Bochy 05-31-10
"...and with Titanic's transverse bulkheads and watertight doors, it renders this vessel practically unsinkable." - "Shipbuilder" magazine, 1912
Lyle has the same affliction I do regarding toolsy infielders..
Dominguez, Noonan and Cavan way too high,
Rankings seem appropriate to me.
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I could see a case being made for Noonan due to his age. But you really think that Dominguez is the 6th best prospect in our system? A 23 1/2 year old man playing low-A ball with a .319/.453 OBP/SLG, and a 23% K-rate, 5% BB-rate. Not to mention the fact that he’s had 20 errors in only 84 games (and some of those he was a DH). I’d wouldn’t even put him in the top 20 – there’s a lot of kids at S-K, Scottsdale and the Dominican that I’d rate above him.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
/chasm
Didn’t say it was correct, said it seemed appropriate to me. I way over value utility infielders. I mean c’mon, one of my favorite all time Giants was Bill Mueller :-)
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I wouldn't be surprised if Dominguez didn't make the top 30
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Yeah Dominguez at six is bizarre to me. He wouldn’t have made my top 20 before the season started, let alone now that he’s been mediocre in low-A ball at 23.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yup
At the end of this season he’ll be a 24 year old who couldn’t hit or field in A ball to save his life. As Evan, and many other people have pointed out at various times, let me know when he toes the rubber.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Well, to be clear, I see this as more of a “current snapshot” kind of list, not so much as a “future potential” list. And that’s why I qualified my ranking of Wheeler, who obviously hasn’t “done anything” yet. It’s the same old thing we’ve debated on these pages for years – current value vs. future value. I lean a bit toward current value.
And I’m encouraged by Dominguez’s improvement. I’m not saying he’s the next Mike Schmidt. Maybe the next … uh, who was that 3B who bounced around the majors for years after being a top draft pick, then finally had some good years? (that was pretty clear..) Maybe Chris becomes that guy. And I’m just partial to 3B with power.
"Row(and) will come out of this. You stay with your guys and he is one of our guys." - Bruce Bochy 05-31-10
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Drew Biery is the Giants best 3B prospect right now
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by Gobroks on Jul 7, 2010 5:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Another way to say this would be “the Giants have no 3B prospect right now.”
My Bucardo is better than yours.
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Ok, I’ll take a stab at this:
1. Zach Wheeler (I’m already uninspired)
2. Brandon Belt
3. Thomas Neal
4. Gary Brown (when signed)
5. Michael Main
6. Thomas Joseph
7. Jorge Bucardo
8. Francisco Peguero
9. Brandon Crawford
10. Juan Carlos Perez
11. Ehire Adrianza
12. Eric Surkamp
13. Jose Castilla
14. Nick Noonan
15. Jarret Parker
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Fun
1-Zack Wheeler-RHP
2-Brandon Crawford-SS
3-Thomas Neal-OF
4-Jarrett Parker-OF
5-Brandon Belt-1B
6-Gary Brown-OF
7-Michael Main-RHP
8-Eric Surkamp-LHP
9-Jorge Bucardo-RHP
10-Ehire Adrianza-SS
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
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Maybe it's just me
But I was thinking as I wrote this list that Wheeler is the least inspiring #1 prospect we’ve had since before Matt Cain was at the top of the list. And even that depends on how one feels, or felt about Merkin Valdez. If Merkin really thrilled one, then i’d have to go before Jerome Williams, back to say when Tony Torcato was our #1 prospect to find a weaker top of the list.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Why? He was a #5 draft pick, and struck out a ton of guys before getting injured.
I was promised lasagna.
I suppose it’s a holdover of my ambivalence of the draft pick in the first place, but I will say what he’s mostly shown in his brief appearance in the Sally is that he’s extremely raw. Yes, he’s struck out 33 batters in 26.2 IP, but he also walked 17 which is why even with a pretty low .212 BAA he was throwing a 1.50 WHIP up there.
By way of comparison, when Matt Cain was in the Sally, he was 1.5 years younger than Wheeler is (and playing two season ages younger, 18 as opposed to Wheeler’s 20), and in 74 IP he had a vastly superior 90/24 K/BB for a 3.75 ratio (as opposed to Wheeler’s current 1.9) with a 1.09 WHIP and Cain was NOT our top prospect after that season.
Put anther way, I don’t have the resources at hand right now, so I’ll just do this to the best of my memory, I think the list of #1 prospects going back over a decade are:
Posey
Bumgarner
Villalona
Lincecum
Matt Cain
Merking Valdez
Jesse Foppert
Jerome Williams
Kurt Ainsworth
Tony Torcato
Possibly Boof Bonser was mixed in there between Ainsworth and Williams can’t remember. Anyway, based on what we knew about each of these guys at that moment in time, I’d say Merkin or Ainsworth are the only two since Torcato that I would rank below Wheeler as a prospect (currently). Of course, we’ll see what the second half brings. I could be in line for more crow. But if he ends the season with a 1.9 k/bb rate and a h/9 over 7, I probably won’t be thinking much differently.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
True, but Cain was also taken 20 slots after Wheeler. Even if he wasn’t the right choice at #5, Wheeler was a consensus top-10 talent in the draft, which is pretty big.
I was promised lasagna.
Yeah, absolutely and I agree with that. He’s got three potential pitches, and a good pedigree behind him, and that’s why I have him listed at #1, and why I argued with Fla-Giant recently that I thought putting Hosmer on the Futures Game roster over Brandon Belt was justified.
But there is a degree that come next winter we’ll have an additional year’s worth of evidence to add to his draft pedigree and I’d like to see more out of him the rest of this year than just the Ks to lift me out of my meh-ness. Actually that 2009 draft will provide a dramatic example of how a year of data can change the view. Certainly if the Giants, or anybody in that area of the draft had taken toolsy high school OF Mike Trout the consensus would have been “over-reach/signability pick,” but a year and a half later, Trout will almost certainly be considered a Top 10 or even Top 5 prospect in baseball, while Wheeler and a couple of the higher consensus safe picks might well be straggling along in the lower reaches of the Top 50.
Eh, I’m sure he’s fine, he’s just not tickling my prospect bone much.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I'll take a rip
My top-10 going into the year were (in order): Posey, Bumgarner, Wheeler, Neal, Rodriguez, Kieschnick, Joseph, Adrianza, Crawford, Runzler.
With #1, #2 and #10 gone, I’d probably replace them with the following three in the top-10: Belt, Peguero and Main.
If we were including new draft picks (assuming we sign our top picks), I’d put Brown in the top-10 and Parker just outside.
I’d drop Kieschnick out of the top-10 entirely because every deficiency he ever showed is being exploited at AA and he doesn’t look like he’s adjusting at all. I can squint and see Neal and Crawford making progress, but no amount of vision correction is allowing me to see Roger doing anything but sucking – which hurts, because I was a major skeptic and he won me over by the end of the year last year. I guess I’ll replace him with Surkamp.
1. Wheeler
2. Neal
(Brown)
3. Belt
4. Crawford
5. Rodriguez
6. Main
7. Joseph
8. Adrianza
9. Peguero
10. Surkamp
No Buccardo love until he proves he can keep up his success two or three levels higher with an 86 MPH fastball. Dominguez has been doing better than I thought, but I had low expectations – he was in the low-20s on my list going into the season. Juan Carlos Perez is someone who is moving up, but I don’t think he’s a top-10 prospect. Peguero is in because of TOOLZ!!! and TOOLZSHEDZ!!! so there.
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
Whenever I hear Nick Noonan's name, I think of this
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
ahoy, polloi
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
How ’bout a Fresca?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 7, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Kieschnick
I don’t think he’s anywhere near the most disappointing. He’s been hurt for almost half the season and hasn’t been fully healthy for more than a 6 week stretch at the beginning of the season. I think that the most disappointing has to be between Clark, Tanner, and Dominguez. The 2 pithcers have done nothing in AA to make me think they’ll ever pitch in the big leagues, while Dominguez has regressed even from his last 2 years in college ball in terms of K-rates and defense – all at the age of 23 1/2 in low-A ball.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
F-G what do you know about Jose Flores?
As posted above, he is having a very nice year in SJ (after a bunch of shitty ones). He is not yet 23. Does he just not have a position?
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He’s having a good year statistically, but I just don’t know enough about him to really rate him highly yet. It also seems like the Giants don’t value him very highly on defense either, since they keep moving him all around the diamond and play him at DH a lot. Considering that, and his age, it seems like his ceiling would be as a utility guy in the majors.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
thx- the numbers are just hard to ignore. I guess we will how real it is next year
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
Yeah, but no one really expected all that much out of Clark, Tanner and Dominguez, did they? People expected much better from Kieschnick.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Good question. I wish we knew if he can be a major leaguer—I feel he’s never gotten a proper chance.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Agreed
Sometimes I feel like I wind up making the argument that he can hit major league pitching, but the truth is no one knows and the maddening/frustrating part is that everyone should know by now if Bowker can play at the big league level. Chalk another one up for Bork.
by Giant Torture on Jul 7, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
We need more azns
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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BUT WE HAVE TEH GENO ESPINELLI!!
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Jul 7, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
shut up, eat your damn eggroll and enjoy your Timmy
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Tim Lincecum and Travis Ishikawa are almost one full Asian.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Dave Roberts!
We’re the kings of the 1/2 Asian players.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
That’s pretty much why I said “almost”.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Asian-Pacific Islander.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 7, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
We need more [a certain race]!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 7, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
[PERSIAN....
…cats]
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Jul 7, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
saw that movie
“No one knows about Persian cats” last weekend and liked it a lot.
proud, yes I said proud, adoptive papa of "Geno" Eugenio Velez
LOL VIKINGS
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
NORWEGIAN HERITAGE NIGHT!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 7, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I want a Giants cap with horns.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 7, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
vuvuzelas on a cap?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Vuvuzela will be attached to the stadium seats
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 7, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
It's your lucky day
Because with Dynamic Pricing and Norwegian Heritage Night, Larry Baer is going to make that a reality.
by Giant Torture on Jul 7, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Horns and alcool do not mix! But Lou Seal would look awesome wearing one of these:
They could be Giants...but not really.
Mr. Baer
Would like to set up a meeting with you.
by Giant Torture on Jul 7, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
The right price, always makes restraining orders go away, just trust me on this one.
by Giant Torture on Jul 7, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
MAOR CRAKURS
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL
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BULL SHIZA
in soviet russia, run scores you!....and giants still have terrible offense
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Jul 7, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: Just saw a tweet that Rox are looking to trade for Uggla
That team is going to win the West (again).
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
Uggla in Denver
He would hit a lot of homeruns, but hey maybe this will lower the Giants the GIDP’s the next time they’re there.
by Giant Torture on Jul 7, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Clank !
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If we keep playing the Brewers, GIDP will not be an issue…
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
Unfortunately...
No more Brewers or Astros on the schedule.
by Giant Torture on Jul 7, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
My bad, maybe that will be what stops them from breaking the GIDP record.
by Giant Torture on Jul 7, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
MLB Trade Rumors says that the White Sox are “all over him.”
by kdl on Jul 7, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
that's hot
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No
That’s Dunn, I think, not Uggla.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Duh, you’re right. Double letters confuse me, apparently.
/blond
by kdl on Jul 7, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL GERMANY
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 7, 2010 1:02 PM PDT reply actions
SPAIN WHAT WHAT
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LOLINEUP
Torres CF
Sanchez 2B
Huff, LF
Burrell, RF
Bustey, 1B
Sandoval, 3B
Rent SS
Whitey, C
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Gotta get that veteran Whitey in there to call the game.
Although, Buster did have a sore knee.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
by KTJ on Jul 7, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
hmm.
Buster not getting a rest after all. Just not catching.
by Duelling Brandos on Jul 7, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Not catching is easier on the legs than catching, no?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 7, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL WILDEBEAST!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 7, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Timmy better strike out 20 and hope that Torres can cover the entire outfield.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Yeah, no fly balls to RF, please.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Or LF.
Wherever Burrell is playing.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
It must be Huff RF Burrell LF
Gotta be backwards, otherwise that makes no sense.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
This looks suspiciously unlike the give-up lineup.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Correct
Tonight is the speed lineup!
Torres: VROOOOM!!
Burrell: VRO….err…fuck it. Someone run to first for me."
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 7, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
ARE YOU FUCKING SHITTING ME?!
I guess it makes sense to not put buster in the crouch…but COME ON
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I’m surprisingly ok with this lineup today.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Huff and Burrell on the edges seems like a bad combination, but I’m okay with the bats.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Torres in CF
Negates a lot of that. And I think you want both Huff and Burrell’s bats in the lineup.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I am the leader of the "Burn Buster's 1B Mitt" Mob
but even I agree it’s ok today (although yet again, if he’s hurting just sit him and let him PH once. Not to be rubbing dirt on it).
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 7, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
He should not be playing if he's too hurt to catch
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/lights torch again and picks up pitchfork
I’m back on the team!
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 7, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Big difference between too hurt to catch and too hurt to play
I’m 45 and could still chase balls in CF all day, but if you asked me to drop into a crouch, my knee would be aching after one batter.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Buster is like 24
not 45. So if his knee is bothering him, that’s not normal.
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I didn’t know Posey’s knee was bothering him so I was upset at first (he has to get used to catching Lincecum at some point), but now this does make a decent amount of sense.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jul 7, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
If he's not healthy enough to catch he shouldn't be playing
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My answer to your previous post applies here too
Catching is a whole different animal
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I realize that
but I’m not sure I’m comfortable with a guy who’s knee is so hurt that he can’t crouch playing at all. Why bother?
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If catching is too painful but batting/playing first isn’t, it makes sense to play first for a day or two until the stiffness loosens up. At least, if you aren’t worried about worsening the injury. If the pain has an unambiguous source (because he was hit in the knee), causing temporary stiffness and so forth that’s the time to play him over there…
The wrist injury is more worrying to me.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 7, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t see what’s wrong with keeping him fresh. Last year was his first full season after all. Give the guy a blow and keep his bat in the lineup. Makes sense to me.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
What's your lineup, then?
Assuming Uribe can’t play and Buster can’t catch
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
I might have given Buster the night off and put Nate on a corner.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
And that
is why you’re not managing the Giants. Nate pinch-hit last night, so he’s good on at-bats for the week.
by Giant Torture on Jul 7, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
This is the line I belong in
Adopted Son:Matt Downs MLB , Now with More STATZ goodness !Matt Downs Fangraphs The Juan Uribe of 2011 !
I guess it was pretty cool to have Posey hitting in the first inning, though.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 7, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Buster the night off, Huff at 1B, Nate in RF
wow, that was difficult.
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And Vance can't dance
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 7, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Aileen?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 7, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
He should either be catching or not playing
if he’s too hurt to catch, then he shouldn’t be playing. Especially since our OF is so epically terrible on D
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Nate is not gritty enough to face lefties.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 7, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Lacks grizzly gamery, isn’t it obvious.
by Giant Torture on Jul 7, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I’m surprised Buster’s playing. By all accounts it seems like his knee and wrist could use a day off. On the other hand, it’s possible Buster told Bochy he felt fine as long as not crouching behind home plate.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
Buster doesn't want to be "The New Problem"
He was probably too scared to ask for a day off.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 7, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty sure there would be riots if they tried to make buster a problem
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Except didn’t someone report that Buster’s knee was bothering him more batting than catching?
Lulz.
by kdl on Jul 7, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
It's like the people in charge of this team aren't very smart or something
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So much better than laughing for fakes.
by Giant Torture on Jul 7, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Or bowling for dollars!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 7, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know, bowling for dollars at Norwegian Heritage Night?
by Giant Torture on Jul 7, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Crying for reals.
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Bowling for soup!
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Geez people!
Hasn’t anyone ever taken a ball somewhere, been sore, and then been better the next day?
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
usually it's worse the next day
especially when it’s going 88 mph and hits you right on the kneecap
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Did you say ball somewhere?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
verb + much
pisses me off more than teh
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 7, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Ouch
Tough news for the White Sox— Peavy has a detached muscle in his shoulder, just placed on the DL
They could be Giants...but not really.
Not enough grizzle
He should be able to play through that.
by Giant Torture on Jul 7, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Rub some floppy tendons on it!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 7, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
jeez
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It just needs to calm down
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Chris Narveson
Huff, Edgar, Ishikawa, Nate and Uribe have all had one plate appearance against this guy. No one else has ever seen him.
The Giants are screwed.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 7, 2010 1:59 PM PDT reply actions
Amy G said that Nate is batting 1.000 against him!
by kdl on Jul 7, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
1 for 1!
I like your new avatar. I have a couple of pairs of those shoes.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 7, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks! I collect them. I just got these:
It’s hard to tell, but the skulls are wearing pink bows. :)
by kdl on Jul 7, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Not quite
The farm system that I was so excited about in March is a big reason why I don’t want the Giants to make a trade in July. The team would either a) be selling low, or b) getting rid of one of the two or three prospects who are actually producing. And for what, Corey Hart? Nah.
I think the farm system is a big reason why they should consider trading players over 30 with some value. If the US Bankruptcy Court, Northern District of Texas, thinks Bengie Molina is good, maybe some other team thinks they need the other rent-a-players on the Giants’ roster.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
If....
They can get something for Renteria, Rowand or Burrell, I doubt you’ll get many arguments here. Although, I must say I do kind of like Pat the Bat.
by Giant Torture on Jul 7, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
sell sell sell!
Huff is on a one-year deal too. I don’t hang up if someone wants to talk about Torres either.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 7, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
noooo
I can’t see torres go
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That's a good question . . .
. . . and an important one. As best I can see, we signed Torres as a free agent, so I would think he is not under control; but it would be nice to have a definite answer. And in any event, I for one would re-up him for a good three years or so as 1) he seems a “young 32”, and 2) there are no obvious promising replacements to be seen, at least that I have heard tell of.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
As best I can see, we signed Torres as a free agent, so I would think he is not under control
That would make sense, but it’s not how it works. Until a player has 6 years in the majors, whoever he’s with controls him, regardless of how they obtained him. To me it seems extremely unfair to players like Torres. But, unless he is sent down, Torres will enter his first arbitration year out of three that he’s going to have withe Giants. By the time he’s a free agent, he might be too old to get a good contract.
I was promised lasagna.
Thank you.
It is a shame (for Torres), but at least it’s one weight off my mind. But there remain Huff, Burrell, and Uribe to deal with—and, if I recall aright, Mota, unless one of the kids, say Joaquin, is ready by 2011. Mota is not irreplaceable, but the other three are, in practical terms, nearly so for this organization. Fortunately, there is a fair chance that each would give the Giants some extra consideration in return for the recent past.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
you're right about the first part
but Bengie says you’re wrong about the second.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 7, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, this
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Peguero
Saw him in San Jose over the weekend. Kid can track a flyball, but was unimpressive at the plate. Can be the next Calvin Murray.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Peguero
a.k.a. Peg Leg
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Jul 7, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Frankie Pegs!
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I don’t pay any attention to this prospect ‘stuff,’ so it’s nice to see it all in one place. Maybe I should become more invested in minor leaguers, but I’m too worried about my own possible career flameout right now.
If you're over 30 and can hit lefties...
I know a team that will sign you NOW.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Our farm system looks like crap again
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
Hmm… 10 years ago we had Jerome Williams, Boof Bonser, and Kurt Ainsworth. Could be a close race.
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So we did. Hmm, can I at least say that our position prospects are better now than in 2000?
They could be Giants...but not really.
Ugh
1. Kurt Ainsworth MLB (58)
2. Jake Esteves AA
3. Tony Torcato MLB
4. Jerome Williams MLB
5. Chris Magruder MLB
6. Doug Clark MLB
7. Sean McGowan AAA
8. Jeff Urban AAA
9. Sammy Serrano A+
10. Scott Linebrink MLB
They could be Giants...but not really.
How about just Gordon?
He’s lost that prospect luster, at least for RoyLOLs management
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 7, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Is there anything to like about him except the increasingly faint luster? Is he a better player than, say, Travis Ishikawa?
With Moustakas coming up fast from behind, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them move Gordon out at some point.
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Cookyman's case for Alex Gordon (whom he's wanted for a while now)
Alex Gordon went straight from college to AA in 2006, and showed crazy power – 29 home runs and 40 doubles as a 22 year old (1.016 OPS). He did strike out too much (23%), but also walked a lot (12.5%).
He started the next year in the majors, but wasn’t ready. The K’s were as high as you’d expect, the power was only OK, and the walks didn’t carry to majors. He had a 90 OPS+, which isn’t god awful, but is definitely not good.
The next year, though, 2008, he showed promise – he still struck out too much, though slightly less than in 2007 (25.2%/24.3%), but added 25 walks, which raised his OPS+ to a solid 109. Not what people hoped, but still pretty good for a 24 y-o in his second year in the majors.
The 109 OPS+ did come with a .260 AVG, though, which for the Royals meant that he still sucks. He started the next year poorly, was demoted (after fewer than 200 PA’s) and then got injured, and never got a chance again. He’s spent most of the past two years in AAA, in which, for what it’s worth (probably not much), he mashed like it’s 2006.
I think it’s pretty reasonable to think that, if given regular playing time, he can hit like he did in 2007, which – assuming that he’s an OK fielder at 3B (and he is, according to what I gather from UZR and a short Google search), would make him a decent starting player, who is 26 years old, and is under control for 4 more years – a pretty valuable thing to have. And if the power ever shows up – and it’s not crazy to think that it could (again, he was only given two years in the majors to prove that it’s there, in one of which he was simply not ready) – he can be much, much more.
I don’t know what Moore would ask for him, but I would think that it’s not much. After all, he demoted Gordon in order to give playing time to Chris Getz and Yuniesky Betancourt. On the other hand, who knows, maybe he thinks these are good players.
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on the other hand, Moore might think others value Gordon more than he does
and look to exploit that. Thankfully, we have a GM who probably doesn’t even know who Alex Gordon is.
Well, he might. But when you let a 26 year old spend his 2nd straight year in AAA, you’re not doing much to raise his value.
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What do you think of picking up Mike Aviles cheaply, to play SS? I suspect the Royals don’t value him terribly highly, although that is pure speculation.
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I would love Aviles
but personally I want to see crawford. I suppose you just mean for this year?
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Yes, just for this year
Although Brandon Crawford (assuming that’s the Crawford you meant) and his injury now clouds even that hope.
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How’s Aviles’s defense at SS? I’ve never seen him play (as there is no good reason to ever watch a Royals’s game). His UZR is good, his Fan Scouting Report is bad. The Royals moved him off short for Betancourt, who is a poor fielder, so that’s not a good sign. But then again, it’s the Royals.
If he can play an OK SS he’s a nice player to have for free. Do they not like him, though? Moore seems to love him some high average hitters.
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OK, unless I'm missing something big here
It appears that the Royals moved Aviles off his natural position – SS – to 2B, then moved Alberto Callaspo off his natural position of 2B to 3B, and then sent Alex Gordon down – all so Yuniesky Betancourt can play. The same Yuniesky Betancourt who can not hit for average or power, is one of the least patient hitters in the majors, is a poor fielder at SS, and doesn’t run the bases well.
Moore is truly a master.
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Isnt betancourt routinely rated as the least valuable regular in baseball?
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Last year he was worst in the majors by WAR.
This year he’s a modest 10th worst among 173 qualifying players. In 2008 he was 12th worst of 147.
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Depends on the definition of "regular" . . .
. . . but as I have it, this year’s current leader is our old friend Pedro Feliz.
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Your first mistake is thinking that Gordon will get playing time.
Everyone knows what we really need is someone to be a real leader in the clubhouse now that Bengie’s gone. After all SOMEbody needs to cheer Rowand up, or he’ll just start slumping….BORK.
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I also would like Gordon
I did some research on him today and me likey
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How about Kila Ka'iahue?
The man’s walking 24.1%! I would LOVE a trade for Gordon and him (he?).
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by theghostofjasonellison on Jul 7, 2010 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Morosi on Lincecum:
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/San-Francisco-Giants-Tim-Lincecum-deserves-to-be-MLB-All-Star-070610
Suck it, Cohn.
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LOL Cards fan
still whining about the Cy Young. Also incorrect in his reasoning.
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does it surprise you that they're still bitching
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I didn’t even see that. Nice!
I wonder if ole Tim Lincecum felt that unsatisfying feeling he says he has when he feels undeserving of a compliment, when he first grasped that Cy Young Award he won last year. IF there was ever a case where an umpire or player or even in this case a group of sports writers got it wrong; the 2009 Cy Young award would be it. Yes I am a cardinals fan, and yes i do feel ripped off. Not even gonna deny it. But if you go back and look at the numbers tim lincecum was at best 3rd place when consideration for the award. Chris Carpenter even had Tim Lincecum beat in every category but strikeouts and he did this with less starts. Adam Wainright was in the same position….beating Tim Lincecum in every stat BUT strikeouts. Truly sportswriters should not retain the abilities to dole out award
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I think he’s referring to Carpenter being injured to start ’09.
They could be Giants...but not really.
I know, but isn’t it easier to have better numbers with less starts (except strikeouts)? That seems like a bad argument, but I could be wrong.
by kdl on Jul 7, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Carpenter pitched 192.2 innings so his ratios (ERA, WHIP, etc.) were legit. I suspect this dude primarily means “W-L” when he says “numbers” and Carpenter had a 17-4 record to Timmy’s 15-7.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Gotcha. I guess that’s why it wouldn’t make sense to me, since I think wins is a stupid measurement (and I also had the pleasure of watching the Giants’ offense last year).
Also, I’m not saying that I think Carpenter didn’t have enough innings. I just think saying, “and Carpenter has a smaller sample size to prove my point!” is a dumb arugment as far as numbers other than W/L.
by kdl on Jul 7, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
well
“Every possible measure except strikeouts” is still really dumb, because without even going into advanced stats, Tim had Waino beat soundly in the ERA/WHIP departments, and had both of them beat in K/BB
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and it's not like strikeouts aren't a big deal
and he fucking CRUSHED them in that department. Also k/9
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It's a stupid argument
“DERR HE HAD A BETTER ERA AND WHIP IN LESS INNINGS (they’re too stupid to know that it should be ‘fewer’)”.
I can’t believe people still think Lincecum didn’t deserve it. Fucking morons.
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Sounds bout right
that’s the only argument i’ve heard from my buddies who are cardinal fans. I just say, regardless, look at the stats
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“beat in every category but strikeouts”
I’m interested what categories he’s counting here. Because that’s definitely not true of “every category.”
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Stoffel actually has good peripherals, aside from the whole getting beat on like a drum thing. 11 k/9, 3.3 k/bb.
I’m not sure I’d put Hector Sanchez is the meeting expectations list. I man he’s pretty well meeting my expectations, but I thought the community ranked him too high. I don’t know that he’s meeting #16 expecations.
Also, I’d move Adrianza and Peguero to just slightly disappointing. And I’d move Dominguez down to Oh dear god why.
Also, I’m with Fla-Giant on Paniagua. I like him.
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kind of an evidence of things unseen deal, isn’t it?
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baggs
Juan Uribe (sprained finger) is still out. Edgar Renteria is the only other shortstop option on the roster.
lol
I think it made plenty of sense. It turned out terrible, but it made sense at the time.
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And as much as people hate Rent, we have no SS for the upcoming season either.
/scared
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 7, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I still get annoyed by the Renteria defenders…
ZOMG LOOK AT HIS AVERAGE! HE TOTALLY DOES NOT PLAY LIKE MOLTEN GARBAGE!!
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 7, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
i tend to look at the last month of play
he’s SUCKED
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TRYING MY PATIENCE
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 7, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
PATIENCE IS A VIRGIN.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
I MUST GET THIS PATIENCE DRUNK, THEN
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 7, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
ugh
obviously you don’t understand us very well. Rent has put up, to date, an average season for a SS, defense included. About the same amount of value/game played as Uribe. Now that Uribe’s been slumping, their total offensive value for the season is less than a run and a half apart.
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I didn’t like it much, but it made a lot more sense than signing Rowand or DeRosa or Molina or Sanchez or …
Yeah. I think people that hate the deal don’t remember at the time our SS prospects were Manny Burriss and a lot of nothing.
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Sabes FTW
Idiot GM’s farm system is filled with prospects that idiot GM’s braintrust scouted, drafted, signed and developed. But, for some reason, idiot GM’s farm system can’t develop anywhere near a serviceable major-league SS. Not a one. So idiot GM goes out and overpays for the first free agent SS who gives him the eye. SS shows up in camp in less than peak condition, breaks down frequently, and generally plays like 33 going on 43.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
/Bochy moves Buster to SS
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TOE THE RUBBER BUSTY
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 7, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
wonder if they’d ever let Buster pitch in spring training just to see.
the other day on the radio, Krukow was mentioning how Buster was playing long toss from center field and was able to throw belt-high seeds to someone on the pitchers mound. Apparently, most of the other guys stopped to watch, and even elicited Roberto Kelly to say it may be one of the strongest arms he’s seen.
Mike Aviles
never mind Theriot, that guy is waaay better. Super Utility for the Royals. Sabez need to look into acquire him , we be set for the next 4-5 manning SS.
RyRohl!
Too bad they couldn’t bring him up in time for this series. His fam lives near Milwaukee.
by kdl on Jul 7, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
And i heard he’s pretty good against the BrewCrew
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I heard Wisconsin lesbian journalists love him, too.
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 7, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m starting to sound like her.
/throws self down stairs.
by kdl on Jul 7, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
No
You need to write all in CAPS
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 7, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, okay.
Also I was thinking I should have put “/throws self off second deck at Rangers’ ballpark.” Too soon?
by kdl on Jul 7, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
You're like Alex Rodriguez
A terrible human being
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 7, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
bahahahahahaha
best:
kissing steinbreners butt so he wont trade him.
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 7, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
/knocks over stacks of Gatorade cups
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 7, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
//goes back to sleep in grandma’s basement
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 7, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
made me laugh
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BOOYA! WITH AUTHORITY
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 7, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
hankschulman
Uribe and Bochy say the SS might be ready tomorrow. Has his sprained finger taped to his pinky. Roof closed. Steamy inside. #nottimmyweather
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Gonna hide here for a bit to avoid the Warriorsworld meltdown thats coming
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i'm already over at GSOM it's great
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everyone's flippin out for NO FUCKING REASON
like chill out, it hasn’t happened yet, and everything is all WOE IS ME
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“it” being what?
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This potential trade with AR going to NY for Lee
with other players going to NY as well
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Who the fuck is AR? Or Lee for that matter? Wait, don’t answer that.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 7, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Anthony Randolph and David Lee
jesus christ, I don’t even like basketball and I know this.
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YEA!
sensing some chasm by johnny though
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could be
I think that trade would be terrible for GS. But I don’t know anything about basketball
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STICK TO FOOTBALL AND BASEBALL
but yea… i mean, i’d like to hold onto a young dude like Randolph, but whatever
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it sucks that the NFL doesn't have this many fun trades
I would be so much more involved with that.
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Ya know, i was thinking about this the other day, why is this? LIke right now you got the vincent jackson thing going on
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Meh
I think it’s mostly because there is wayyy too much going on in a football team’s system to be able to get a guy midseason and incorporate him immediately. In baseball it’s like “here’s the bat, here’s the glove, go play”. In football it’s “here’s an entirely new playbook, learn it by this sunday”.
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NFL has the best draft though
More guys make the team than the NBA
More guys help right away than MLB, plus the picks can be traded
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yeah, no doubt
the draft does sorta make up for it. And free agency is cool too. I just like the excitement of trades
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Yeah.. ignorance was bliss.
/goes to the OT thread to talk baseball
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 7, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn’t my fault!!!! and i had to write a paper on how ignorance is bliss
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I’m just hasslin’.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 7, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
they dont seem that down at GSOM. seems like lots like the potential trade
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
not at all… but it’s ALL SPECULATION, nothing’s happened yet
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Its all contingent on Lebron
If he signs with NY, this doesn’t happen. So suddenly he makes me give a shit about what he’s gonna do tomorrow.
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my money's on him staying
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He's staying, that's my opinion
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This
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can you imagine the fans in Cleveland?
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Yeah, how could they live without the guy that hasn't won them a single finals game in 7 years?!
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i'll believe it when i see it for real...
APPARENTLY it’s on the table, but we’ll see
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Enlighten us
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 7, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
pretty much, and i really wouldn't mind this
it’d be tough to give up on Randolph though
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meh
Randolph has potential, but Lee is MUCH better
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pretty much, and this is where i'm sick and tired of this "potential" bullcrap
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I just think it's funny
b/c GS just drafted a 4
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Out for a while with a wrist injury
Just after signing the contract. LOL.
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Lee at 13 mil a year for 5 yrs?
No thanks. He sucks on defense and has no post up game. Yes he can rebound and can hustle, but its not worth the contract he is going to get.
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IT HASNT HAPPENED YET
people are flippin out. And yea, this organization is so fucked up from the inside out it’s amazing, Monta, Beans, and if this happens, Lee get paid THAT MUCH MONEY? really? fuck that noise. It’s not like Randolph had a post up game to begin with though dude
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or Udoh, for that matter
why y’all didn’t draft Monroe, or hell, even Aminu, I’ll never know
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Haha, fuck Monroe
they didn’t need a center, he’s a passing big, and Aminu, again, with the potential thing, i hate it, they wanted someone that didn’t need any "extra"time
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well, that's not Udoh
so I’m not sure what they were thinking.
If they wanted the most “mature” player, Monroe would have been the best choice by far.
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LOL
JimmySpencerNBA
Shocker. Warriors draft pick Ekpe Udoh is already hurt and will miss the entire summer league. He really IS like Randolph and Wright.
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is it 13/5 for sure?
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yea, he's getting paid big time
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ouch
yeah not worth it imo.
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In my opinion, no... but heck, i'm not the GM at all
i’m just a fan
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/shrugs shoulders
I thought it was about Lebron waking up from his nap
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Shift-A
Hi Gyze!
Anything out of the ordinary happen so far? I just turned the game on and…
HOLY SHIT 4 RUNS ALREADY?? AGAIN??
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This just got a little bit worse.
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