minor lines, 7/4/10
Independence Day highlights from the Giants' farm: Brandon Belt had four hits, including his first upper minors HR; Tommy Joseph homered has part of his three-hit night; Johnny Monell and Jose Flores homered as two of seven San Jose Giants with multi-hit lines; and Felix Romero and Oliver Odle each allowed just 1 ER (in 6.2 IP and 7.0 IP, respectively).
AAA: Fresno defeated Colorado Springs 5-4
Fresno: 1B Brett Pill: 2 for 4, SO
Fresno: SS Ryan Rohlinger: 3 for 4, 2B
Fresno: SP Eric Hacker: 7.0 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 2 BB, 7 K
Fresno: RP Osiris Matos: 1.1 IP, 2 K
Rohlinger and Pill combined for five of the Grizzlies' eight hits, raising their respective AVGs to .342 and .300.
Hacker didn't quite have a quality start, but this was his longest start in his last nine starts and the most strikeouts he had had in an even longer period of time. Matos had 2 K in 1.1 perfect IP.
AA: Richmond defeated Erie 4-3 (10 innings)
Richmond: 1B Brandon Belt: 4 for 5, HR, SO
Richmond: 3B Conor Gillsapie: 2 for 4, SH
Richmond: SP Felix Romero: 6.2 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 4 K
Richomd: RP Ronnie Ray: 1.1 IP, 2 K
Richmond: RP Rafael Cova: 0.2 IP, 1 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 3 BB, 2 K
Belt had four hits in his second Eastern League game, including his 11th HR this year. Gillaspie was one of two other Flying Squirrels with a multi-hit line, raising his AVG to .256.
Romero is on a bit of a mini-roll since joining the rotation in early June. In five starts, he has a 2.93 ERA after an ERA of 5.59 in eleven relief appearances. Ray had 2 K in 1.1 perfect IP. Cova retired just two of seven batters for his second blown save, but his ERA remains just 1.74.
A+: San Jose defeated Bakersfield 13-1
San Jose: LF Wendell Fairley: 4 for 6, 2 2B
San Jose: C Johnny Monell: 2 for 4, HR, BB
San Jose: DH Jose Flores: 3 for 5, HR
San Jose: SP Oliver Odle: 7.0 IP, 7 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K
San Jose: RP Jason Stoffel: 1.0 IP, 3 K
The first seven Giants in the batting lineup allo had multi-hit lines. Fairley, batting second in the lineup, which is the highest he has been all season, had four hits, including just his 5th and 6th doubles. Monell and Flores added their 6th and 3rd HRs as two of three Giants to go deep.
Odle had his second straight strong start, improving his W-L record to 9-2 and getting his ERA below 4.00. Stoffel struck out all three batters he faced. He now has 36 K (vs 11 BB) in 29.1 IP.
A-: Augusta lost to Lexington 6-5
Augusta: CF Evan Crawford: 3 for 5, CS
Augusta: C Tommy Joseph: 3 for 4, HR, HB
Augusta: SP Brian Irving: 5.2 IP, 6 H, 5 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 5 K--1 HR
Joseph and Crawford each had three hits, including Joseph's 8th HR, raising their AVGs to .226 and .262.
Irving made his longest start among four starts (and 22 appearances overall) but took the loss in large part due to three unearned runs. The 5 K matched a season high, but the 6 H set a new season high.
ssA: Salem-Keizer defeated Vancouver 14-4
Salem-Keizer: C-RF Jesse Shriner: 2 for 3, 2 BB
Salem-Keizer: LF Carlos Quintana: 2 for 5, HR, SO
Salem-Keizer: SP Edward Concepcion: 6.0 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 3 K
Salem-Keizer: RP Aaron King: 0.0 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 4 BB
One of five Volcanoes with two hits, Quintana, who was hitting last in their lineup, had his 2nd HR of the year. Shriner reached base four times.
Concepcion's fourth start was easily his best of the year, including a 12/3 GO/FO line. King followed Concepcion's 6.0 scoreless IP with about as bad a relief appearance as a pitcher can have as he walked all four batters he faced. He now has 7 BB in 5.0 IP in his six relief appearances with the Volcanoes.
R: Giants defeated Mariners 4-2
Scottsdale: C Joseph Staley: 2 for 4, HR, 2B
Scottsdale: CF Johnathan DeBerry: 3 for 4, SO
Scottsdale: SP Armando Paniagua: 5.0 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 3 K--1 WP
Scottsdale: RP Danny Otero: 1.0 IP, 1 K
Playing in his eighth pro game, Staley had his 2nd HR and 2nd double. After going hitless through his first five pro games, DeBerry got three hits in his sixth game.
Paniagua had his second straight start with 0 ER in 5.0 IP, giving him a 1.29 ERA through three starts. Otero worked a perfect 7th inning in his first appearance in a year. He had a 1.15 ERA in 39 Eastern League appearances a year ago before getting hurt.
DSL: The Gigantes had their usual Sunday off-day
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Hey, Tommy Joseph woke up!
Also, if Belt hits uber well at AA, anyone else want to see a september callup?
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Belt and Posey has such similar offensive approaches:
takes pitches, good batting eye
line drive hitters, high BA, high OBP, lots of 2Bs, occasional HRs
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 5, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s a more valuable offensive profile from catcher than first, but at league minimum for his first three years, i’ll take it from Belt.
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I'll take the next Mark Grace!
I ain't havin' it
by NuschlerFace on Jul 5, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
milb.com says he’s 6-4 195
he should hit for more power as he fills out
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 5, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Pablo is 23. He should also hit for more power as he fills out!
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If Pablo fills out any more, he won’t fit into the batters box
Keeping Molina on the roster is akin to brushing your teeth with PreparationH--
IT JUST MAKES NO DAMN SENSE
by Mordy From Monsey on Jul 5, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t have a problem with it depending on how they get him on the 40-man roster. Belt does seem like a great candidate for the AFL, though and then maybe a shot at the roster next year, though he’d probably start out in Fresno and go from there.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 5, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone think it would be a good idea
to call up Belt if he tears up AA these next 100-150 ABs or so?
by AmorVincitOmnia on Jul 5, 2010 12:19 PM PDT reply actions
Because calling him up to develop in the majors and start his clock would be a waste of resources, 40 man roster spot, and irresponsible.
He needs 400 at bats in AA / AAA before we should even consider letting him face MLB pitching.
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I sure hope to see him sometime next year, though!
But not this year. Not even as a Sept Call up. I don’t want him on the 40 man roster, period. We did that with Gillespie and now he only has one option left.
See : Yonder Alonso.
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I guess I was thinking something similar
to how Pablo Sandoval was called up.
Was anyone in disagreement with that, or was his case way too different?
by AmorVincitOmnia on Jul 5, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Well Panda was in his 5th year in pro ball, which is a fairly significant difference. On the other hand, as the saying goes the player will tell you where he belongs. Belt can certainly force the issue (not necessarily of a September call up, I don’t really care about that) but at least of putting himself on management’s radar.
The Gillaspie thing was a negotiation ploy, so it doesn’t really apply here. However, on the options issue, I think he still has two options left. I’ve made that same mistake and had it pointed out to me that there is a 4th option exemption for certain players with limited pro experience that keeps them from burning out their options in their first three years. This would I think apply to Gillaspie. Of course, the idea that he’ll actually be ready for the majors by 2013 still needs a bit of proving.
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Right on Gillaspie. I think that BS & Co. really thought that he would rocket through the minors and be ready for the pros by 2011 – which now seems like such a pipe-dream. I have no faith that he’ll ever be good enough to be useful even as a sub or bat off the bench. He doesn’t hit for average, doesn’t hit for power, and his D is mediocre at best.
Oh, and since Gillaspie has been on the 40-man roster since August of 2008, I believe that the rule is that he must be on the 25-man roster or the injured list by the end of next season (2011) or he becomes a FA.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Gillaspie was added to the 40 man roster in August or September 2008 and spent the remainder of the year with the Giants, so he didn’t use up an option in 2008. He was optioned to the minors in ST of 2009 and 2010. So that’s two options. He can be optioned again next year for a third option.
That brings us to ST 2012. Under normal circumstances, having burned 3 options Gillaspie would have to head north with the club to start the season in 2012 or be waived. However there is a 4th option exception. According to MLB rules:
In certain cases, players are granted four options. This is only the case if a player has (a)used all three options already and (b)does not have five full seasons of professional experience. Note that only full-season leagues count for a “season of professional experience” because short-season leagues aren’t 90 days (the minimum) long. Also, DL time does not count. This rule protects players added to the 40-man roster long before they were eligible for the Rule 5 draft – they are not punished with less development time because their organization started their “clock” too soon.
Gillaspie obviously fits this criteria, as his normal three options would be expired after only three seasons. So it seems he has until ST of 2013 before his options clock expires.
Regardless, he wouldn’t become a FA; he’d go through the waiver procedure if he were sent down after all his options expired.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Unless we have a miraculous turn-around in our fortunes these next 7weeks, it would make absolutely no sense to bring Belt up and start his clock. Besides, why bring him up when Bochy is still the manager? Bochy won’t play Belt enough to make calling him up worth it – remember what he did to Posey last year, and Posey, Nate and Bowker this year.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
What jct said
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Because calling him up to develop in the majors and start his clock would be a waste of resources, 40 man roster spot, and irresponsible.
in other words, The Giants Way!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 5, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Charlie continues to hit
2-4, 2 2B, BB
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 5, 2010 12:27 PM PDT reply actions
I didn’t know Fairley was capable of hitting extra base hits. nice.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 5, 2010 1:15 PM PDT reply actions
Trip to the mound time.
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Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 5, 2010 1:43 PM PDT reply actions
crap. wrong thread.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 5, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
M.A.S.H. unit
All the walking-wounded pitchers are being resurrected in Scottsdale recently – they’re going to have to start applying for medicare reimbursement. LOL. Otero yesterday, David Newton and Kelvin Marte on Saturday, who’s next?
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