Post-game thread: Giants lose heartbreaker in Coors for first time in team history
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 4, 2010 3:56 PM PDT
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PrintI'm not sure if that eighth-inning comeback made things a little better, or a lot worse. Also, note that I'm writing this before the bottom of the ninth. Prove me wrong, Giants. Prove me wrong.
Post-game edit: I mean, really, did you expect something different? My favorite move of the game: removing Buster Posey to pinch-run Eli Whiteside, who is as slow, if not slower than Posey. The only reason to do that is if you think Posey is so green behind the plate, so likely to make a game-losing mistake, that you have no choice but to replace his bat with a superior defender. It was amusing, then, that the defensive replacement made an error and struck out twice in crucial spots.
In order to justify his career as a player, Bochy has established all of these bizarre catcher-related rules of engagement. It's fascinating at this point. If he's still managing next year, it will move from "fascinating" right back to "unparalleled and unacceptable idiocy." But right now? Fascinating. The Giants have their best hitting prospect in 20+ years, and it comes at a time when they have the manager who is the absolute worst fit for him.Something's inside, alright....
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LOL
"Having potential is the worst insult you can give because it means you haven't done anything yet."
LOL
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 4:13 PM PDT reply actions
LOL big nose grant
Kobe sucks
"Frankly your desire to be a seller is just proof of how blinded you are by your hatred of Sabean"-giantsrainman..LOL
by GovernorStephCurry on Jul 4, 2010 4:17 PM PDT reply actions
LOL big nose grant
Kobe sucks
"Frankly your desire to be a seller is just proof of how blinded you are by your hatred of Sabean"-giantsrainman..LOL
by GovernorStephCurry on Jul 4, 2010 4:17 PM PDT reply actions
Brian Wilson is a heart attack closer
Much like Billy Wagner.
Some thrive under pressure. Especially when they create it.
It doesn’t make it easier for me.
Rooting for the Yankees is like cheering the tanks at Tianamen Square.
insert random comment here ^^
Whatever Sabean thinks about the IQ of the average baseball fan, you just proved him right.
by cybermaldonado on Jul 4, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
LOLCHY
Pinch run for your best hitter with a slower runner while trailing in the 8th. Then proceed to put your closer in a tie game in the 13th, What else can you do to get fired?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I tuned into the game in the 9th and Kruk and Flem mentioned the pinch run for Buster. I heard that and LOL’d. It’s Bizarro Managing!!!
Hitler was a Dodgers fan.
by The Nick on Jul 4, 2010 5:19 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
they were guessing that Posey was hurt
I literally LOL’d.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I happen to hear the Rockies broadcast a bit. They were wondering what the hell was going.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I would still hate him, but I would at least respect Bochy if he stood up after the game and admitted his decision to remove Posey for Whiteside cost his team the game.
Buster Posey: "I'm a catcher." Brian Sabean: "I'm an idiot."
by rxmeister on Jul 4, 2010 8:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Why would he do that?
If he was sure Posey would have outperformed Whiteside he never would have pulled him. Do you actually think those thoughts are racking his brain?
If a manager’s going to second guess himself to that degree he’ll never survive as long as Bochy has.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 4, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
No way Posey waves at three sliders with a runner on 3rd and one out
There’s just no way he doesn’t put the ball in play
Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!
by Giantsfan4life on Jul 4, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
for god's sake
it doesn’t take much, and that’s what the Ginats got.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper."
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
nothing wrong with using Wilson that late
the Bat/Greysides fail was the killer
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
bochy forgot that he was playing on the road
you only put your closer in a tie game in extras when you are playing at home
Good God the lineup has really turned sour.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
Whoops, wrong thread. Thanks, Grant.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 4, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Almost there. Stay on target.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
I can’t maneuver!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 4, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d like to remind you that my dad is out there. Low-third camera. In the rain. I really don’t want to hear about a cameraman getting electrocuted! But this game is hella fun.
Still backing Notgardo, wheresoever he may wander. (Don't forget to wriiiite!)
Call him.
Tell him the game is over and he can come in now.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 4, 2010 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I"M SOOOOOOOORRRRRRRYYYYYYY
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 4, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
WTF? I totally fixed that before posting.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 4, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
You gonna use your mod powers to edit it?
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
There’s no way to do that.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 4, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
delete your own comment?
Kobe sucks
"Frankly your desire to be a seller is just proof of how blinded you are by your hatred of Sabean"-giantsrainman..LOL
by GovernorStephCurry on Jul 4, 2010 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Or you could hide it
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Nah. I still got one up on Cookyman there. He didn’t even mention how I misspelled the word “sorry”.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 4, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
So I heard there’s a Star Wars marathon on.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 5:39 PM PDT reply actions
TBS has had Anchorman on a couple times already this weekend.
"I wanted to pick a Rockie. But I dislike the Rockies. They're not bona fide." — Jon Miller on the postgame wrap, 7/1/10
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Jul 4, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I've never seen Anchorman.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Neither have I
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Go fuck yourself, San Diego
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
by sanfrankid on Jul 4, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
SINBAD COMEDY TOUR
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 4, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
The only time the Giants have won lately
was when I was posting and in the GDT.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
So glad buster was sitting
Especially in extra innings so he couldn’t throw up all over himself. Bochy is officially mailing it in even by his standards. Were 1-0 without him!
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 4, 2010 5:43 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
So was Buster hurt or was it stupidity?
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Didn’t seem hurt. He just stood next to Bumgarner in the dugout and watched the rest of the game.
I was promised lasagna.
win
certainly not very aggressive treatment of an injury, which of course there wasn’t.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
borkborkbork
Kobe sucks
"Frankly your desire to be a seller is just proof of how blinded you are by your hatred of Sabean"-giantsrainman..LOL
by GovernorStephCurry on Jul 4, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
he was pinch run for, not sure why
here in Denver, one of the Rockies announcers was mocking Bochy for it, while the other guy defended it. “Whiteside has more speed.”
The other guy mentioned that Posey used to play ss and was an athlete moved to catcher and the other idiot announcer replied back with “well, they moved him to catcher pretty darn quick.” Real moron. Annoying to lose to these guys up here, worse with these homer announcers.
People who don't know
Just don’t know. I had to check another source to make sure gameday was right. Bochy must hate his job.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 4, 2010 6:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
BORK BORK BORK
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
This didn't look good, folks.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
It looks better now.
Sabean has not made 2-3 desprate moves to stay in the 2010 race.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 39%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
LOL forgetting when the trade deadline falls
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
/carrying 13 pitchers and still ran out
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 4, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Show on Comcast about Jerry. Interviews with Lott, Craig, Young, etc. as well as Rice himself. Friday at 8 p.m.
by kdl on Jul 4, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
That sounds excellent
I wish jerry rice never left the niners, fuck smug over-rated owens.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
At least they didnt have to use Sanchez (Dirty)
by ThePasswordisWillieMcgee on Jul 4, 2010 5:50 PM PDT reply actions
I was praying that bochy would get ejected after he pinch ran for posey in the 8th, and similar to the giants win it never happend today :(. In our last 8 games we’re 0-8, with wotus we’re 1-0 LOL BORK.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
LOL ESPN Bias
In describing the All-Star selections, the network’s bottom line “The Lead” had this: “Jeter. Pujols, and top vote-getter Mauer top All-Star selections”. Jeter? Really?
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Jeter? Surprised they didn’t have afraud and teixeira in there LOL STARS.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Willie Mays would routinely be an all-star even after his production dropped significantly. I’ve got no problem with Jeter as an all-star for life.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 4, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
But ESPN listing him as “top All-Star selection”?
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
top of what?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 4, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess the moronic fan voting
Just like allen iverson and tracy mcgrady were atop the NBA’s all star fan voting this year.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Just the fact that ESPN HAD to list Derek Jeter there rather than just Pujols and Mauer or ANY other selection
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Pretty much
The fact that joey votto is not an all star has a lot to say about baseball fans these days.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Fans are not voting for Joey Votto over Albert Pujols. Votto should have been a reserve. Omar Infante?
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Heath bell not being an all star? LOL
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Sorry, Gaiz
although I was listening, I did not start watching the game on TV until the 15th, therefore, I am personally responsible for this loss. I will never watch another Ginats game on tv. Sincerely, GGF.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
Dearest GGF,
Thank you for standing up and taking responsibility. I, gallo del cielo, watched every fucking inning, putting off shopping for food and chores outside, in order to have my hopes crushed. I scared my cat with certain outburst of, well, enthusiasm.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 4, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
He went to a Physic once.
Just to warn her.
I feel much better now.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 39%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
needz moar spelling
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 4, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not even mad about this loss
Bochy ended up looking like a huge fucking idiot especially when the pulling Posey move really seemed to bite him in the ass over and over again, it was too perfect.
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
he doesn't just LOOK like a huge fucking idiot
He IS a huge fucking idiot.
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
by nogooddeed on Jul 4, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Even when Huff was on third with no one out, it never felt like the Giants were going to win this game.
Oh, and Bruce Bochy is a fucking moron.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
This
The whole “Need to get buster out of a close game Mmm pinch run” instance pretty much set the tone for the rest of the game. Fuck bruce bochy, starting getting routinely ejected so wotus can be auditioned to speed up the process.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
LOL Baggs
The Giants bench is empty. But I think I’d rather see Madison Bumgarner hitting right now than Renteria or Whiteside. Can Maddy play SS?
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
LOL BORK
When baggs is cracking jokes making fun of you for being a moron, you know you’re fucked.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I think all the ripping that Baggs has taken since his “enjoy the game” comment has woken him up. He’s trying to get back on our good side.
Buster Posey: "I'm a catcher." Brian Sabean: "I'm an idiot."
by rxmeister on Jul 4, 2010 8:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I can't believe I wasted 4 hours of my life on that
Well, okay, the back-to-back home runs were pretty awesome. And getting out of bases loaded jams in extra innings were quiet amazing (and lucky). But taking Posey out for a pinch runner made absolutely no sense, as did leaving both Renteria and Rowand in the lineup.
Bright side: Sanchez didn’t have to pitch! And the Colorado series is over! And we didn’t have to watch Molina-induced GIDP!
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
It was memorible game. If we ( as fan base) were not so focuesed on a pennett race it would be the high light of a couple weeks in a rebuilding season
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 39%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
I don’t think it’s the fanbase’s fault that we’re upset that our team managed a leadoff triple and couldn’t score, that our manager pulled our young athletic catcher that we can finally see catch during the game for a minor upgrade at best in the running department, and that the management constantly insists to play (and pay) old mediocre veterans in place of younger players like a rebuilding team should.
Yes, it probably would be a highlight for a rebuilding team, but that’s just it: this team is not rebuilding, it is packaged as a playoff contender. Rebuilding teams go cheap to save money and play lots of young players. That we’ve had lineups where Pablo was the only position player under 30 starting this year means that we are not rebuilding. We are a freaking country club for mediocre, overpaid vets.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
by mymclife on Jul 4, 2010 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am not saying it is the fanbases fault. Just saying this was an amzeing bit of baseball. And if our harts were not on the line we would enjoying it more. It is the type of game I look at boxes scores and think " Hmm if i can get 2-3 hrs free.. " Just for watching the gamsport itself point of view.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 39%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
Yeah, maybe from someone who isn’t invested in the outcome, the game maybe would be a great one. But for someone who is, it just highlights the incompetence of the Giants management. That they were even in the game until the 15th was based mostly on luck.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
some very cool moments
Posey’s f*ing laser throws (hi Bengie!), Torres stretching his triple, Nate’s bloop HR. All very memorable.
Pinchrunning for Posey? Yes, stupid, but I’ve already seen the Eli-as-pinchrunner ploy this year and decided I’ve never seen that done with a C except in extremis.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Torres gunning down the runner at home in teh 13th. Some darn good ball was played today. To bad someone, who willl go unnamed by me, is allowwed to squanders those moments. But there was some darn good ball.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 39%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
Reloading.
Not rebuilding. An the current managment duo is turn a new reload every couple hours. Just like a 4 month old. Andamzingly the loads are very simmilar.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
But Renteria and Rowand are gamers who deserve to start!!!!! Forget their combined 1 for 12 and 4 K’s.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Please be a showcase...
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
LOL more like basket case
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, I came in around the third inning, and missed either the 11th or 12th because I had help my mom with her Mac.
But, yeah. I guess I am. Sorta.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
Straw poll. Should the team be Short term Buyers or Seller now?
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 39%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
i say stand pat until Sabean is fired.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 4, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Intresting.
I think he is here at least the next couple seasons so this is not an answer I expected to see.
Personaly I say sell veteran gamerness. 2-8 vs the last 3 teams tells me all I need to know about how the Big Head will use this roster and how it would fair against true contenders. 85 wins in 2010 will not get us anything 81 wins wouldn’t but if the 4 wins can be stacked into 2011 or 2012 we might be on to something.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 39%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
i thought that Sabean and Bochy’s contracts run out after this year?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 4, 2010 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
One more year with an option for 2012.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
team option hopefully?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 4, 2010 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I also might be hunkerred down ina very cynical buncker re: Sabean. I will out last him but this will go on for decades and I might be willing this fight to me childern before its done.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 39%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
mind me asking why? This team is on the rate to win arround 83 games. It plays more game vs 500 or better teams in the second half ( 17-29 .378 win rate). this squad would need to win more than 25 of it 32 games left vs under 500 teams just to sniff the middle 80’s.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 39%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
I think standing pat is the fastest method to earn Sabean a pink slip so I hope he does so. Of the two choices, we should probably sell high on Huff and Uribe.
WEll if talking most probable Sabean action i think he gets desprate here and starts trying to out do his Hillenbrand trade. I don’t route for that nor want it it but in all honesty I think this is a very real path he will choose.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 39%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
buyers last year
sellers this year. I love Torres and like Huff, and they both should be shopped. If they can get an actual pitcher for Molina, they should be able to get two real prospects and a few suspects for these two.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Believe it, or not, I am very anti moveing Torress. Team controled competatn CFer are a bit like very good, better, 3rd basemen. Once you start counting them you ussaly have fingures and toes left over and ina 30 team leauge tah is not a resource you let go lightly.
With him the Giants can pencil in 1100 innings of good Cf work the next couple seasons giveing the team time to try players like Nate there and reclaimation projects along with giving the Darren Fords of the world time to earn ( or learn if you preferr) their trade enough to merrit Cf time on ther own. Torress my be a case were his value to the Giants over then next 24-36 months is more than what other team will probably pay.
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Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
I can't fucking believe Bochy yanked Posey in the 8th...
I’m speechless.
remember all the joy when Molina was traded?
Yeah, me too. LOL McC rose colored glasses!
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Kill the Ump! Fire the Manager!
usually I steer clear of this bullshit, but I’m coming around on the Bochy thing. He’s just not effective with this “thing”
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
That whole "common sense" thing eludes him
Ya know, like ignoring what his eyes tell him and sticking to retarded hunches?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
It happend last year as well. The kids play and the team find itself in postion for something at teh begging of July. managment starts worrying about “rockie mistakes” goes all veterany with the play time and things melt down.
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I think Bochy hates Cain
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I think Bochy hates Buster
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
I think Bochy hates the Giants.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Bochy is a secret agent for the Padres.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
His brother is a scout for the padres
You are correct.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
That’s been my theory for a while.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Bochy hates logic.
Kobe sucks
"Frankly your desire to be a seller is just proof of how blinded you are by your hatred of Sabean"-giantsrainman..LOL
by GovernorStephCurry on Jul 4, 2010 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
bochy made up for getting tossed in the 6th yesterday
by over managing this team into a loss today
The word "overmanaging" was the same one on my mind.
I think this was Bochy’s worst game this year as a manager and he’s had quite a few stinkers.
I personally believe that Bochy is being forced to play Posey at catcher and doesn’t like it one bit. The PR for Posey was a FU to management to show them that he would play who he wants. Nothing else makes any sense.
The man is deathly afraid of rockie mistakes. Never mind veteran bonehead move cost the same 90 feet and outs. Those don’t phase him at all.
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Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
It's completely indefensible
You just can’t make a case for it. With Posey in the game, we had a chance to win. With Whiteside, none. And in every other sense, this was a fantastic game. Our relievers battled like . . . words escape me. Brilliant bullpen work, after a brilliant comeback.
Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!
by Giantsfan4life on Jul 4, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I left
in the 9th. I took a nap, because right now naps are better than watching the Giants attempt to play this game. When Buster was pulled I realized that Bruce wasn’t serious about winning.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 4, 2010 6:02 PM PDT reply actions
FUCK YOU BOCHY
extrabaggs
Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 6:15 PM PDT reply actions
I swear, he’s GOT to be fired after this.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Wotus manages, Decker becomes the bench coach.
GITERDUN.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
No, Decker
Gotta be Decker. He knows the young guys. He’ll play ’em.
Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!
by Giantsfan4life on Jul 4, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
FUCK YOU BRUCE BOCHY
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 4, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Clearly buster wasn't ready to play
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
It's beyond hatred now
The guy is a fucking clown, he has no idea what he’s doing and should be removed after this road trip. Unfortunately we won’t see steve decker until next year, ho well.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
FIRE BOCHY CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP
Fire Bochy clap clap clap clap (said in the same way you would say Let’s go Giants clap clap clap clap).
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Sounds like we need to get 5,000 mccoven and get it going around the stadium.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
THAT IS AWESOME
/new sig.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper."
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
He just gave you two reasons to fire him
Number one is thinking Whiteside can score on something Posey couldn’t and number two, for even thinking Renteria is capable of hitting a gapper.
Buster Posey: "I'm a catcher." Brian Sabean: "I'm an idiot."
by rxmeister on Jul 4, 2010 8:33 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I have never yet
seen Posey run and thought “wow, he’s slow”. Not that it has anything to do with anything, but he can beat Whitey in a footrace, can’t he?
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper."
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
What the fuck
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Bochy is loony; flat nuts
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
So what
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 4, 2010 6:22 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
So, so much what.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 4, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL URBAN
He read bags tweet and he said “This move is officially the worst move bochy has ever made in his career as a giant”. and then instantly went to break, basically a massive head palm LOL BORK.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I tend to agree with this being one of his worst moves. There was not reason for it other than some inter-team power play nonsense going on that none of us are privy to.
intra-team
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--Daisy Owl
"Trade my Bengie will you?"
“Whitey, get in there and run for Poster Bussey.”
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper."
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants have their best hitting prospect in 20+ years, and it comes at a time when they have the manager who is the absolute worst fit for him.
Well put, Grant.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Giants take their best hitting prospect out of the game for a pinch runner after he gets a 2 out hit to extend the rally
Is there anything else that needs to be said?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
So let me get this straight
Bruce Bochy, in one game, manages to :
1. Pinch run a 23 year old, Athletic Rookie Catcher with a 32 years old, veteran Catcher because he thinks there is a marginal chance that the veteran catcher can score on a ball in the gap.
2. Remove two position players from the lineup with double switches, neither one named Edgar Renteria or Aaron Rowand.
3. Manages to double switch his way into having no bench player left, and pitcher batting cleanup. (This was a crime against humanity when LaRussa did it, but he had the excuse of Matt Holliday being sick. Bochy just flat out did it).
There is simply no excuse for being out managed this badly by Jim Tracy. What do you say to to your team in the locker room after this loss? Sorry guys, I thought this is the right way to manage a close game, and because both Posey and Sandoval are under 25, we need them out of the lineup at the end and leave Rowand and Renteria in it?
Holy Almight. There has to be some remification at the end of a long losing streak and capped off by this bullshit.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
He's an all star manager stop second guessing him
So many good extensions this off season.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
The sadly fact is
The Giants ownership (Nuekom and Baer) are completely clueless. They think Bochy is doing a good job because they saw sellout crowds vs. the Red Sox (never mind half the people were cheering for the Red Sox) and 35,000+ vs. the Dodgers.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
As long as the ticket sales look great and the panda hats keep selling bow tie billy and LOLry baer will sit back content thinking bochy is reviving their franchise.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
The image of competition has always been more important than actually winning.
Fuck Armageddon, this is hell.
George Steinbrenner would have fired Bochy and Sabean TWO YEARS AGO.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
more like 15
Kobe sucks
"Frankly your desire to be a seller is just proof of how blinded you are by your hatred of Sabean"-giantsrainman..LOL
by GovernorStephCurry on Jul 4, 2010 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
More like fire Sabean 7 years ...
and hired him back ala Billy Martin.
Oh well we can’t have it all. ;)
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 39%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
This
And bruce bochy is never hired.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
The failure to go after Vlad, trading Nathan, going into a season with Matt Herges as the closer. But yeah, ooooooooold news.
Fuck Armageddon, this is hell.
those two guys are morons
the Giants image has been reduced to Timmy wigs and Panda hats.
winning? we’ll pass. very sad, indeed.
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 4, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
bubbaheads and wearable blankets
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
guys, help me out here
I don’t live in the area anymore and I only get a chance to watch the Giants when they play the rockies or are on national tv. Is the sentiment on this board similar to what is being said in the bay area on the airwaves?
It just seems that this has passed on to general disgust. I just cannot imagine Giants management is watching all of this and are please by what they see. I cannot imagine the majority of the fan base still supports Bochy, Renteria, Rowand, and even Sabean (though I can see how some might have not pulled the trigger on Sabean).
The only guy I read on this site that is a Sabean guy (if you will) is Obsessive Giants Compulsive. I think Giants Rainman might be as well. I’m not sure if anyone supports Bochy (GRM being the only guy that I can think of as a possibility). Same for Renteria (GRM) and Rowand (even GRM sees him as a 5th outfielder). None of this is meant as a slam against those guys, by the way.
Is the general consensus of the fan base at games and on the radio the same as what I see here?
The boo birds were chirping at Molina before he got traded. They also were on Rowand before he got benched.
I think even the casual fan is getting frustrated. If the Giants drop below .500 and don’t turn things around soon, I think they will be screaming for Bochy’s head on a platter.
if Nuekom doesn't fire Bochy and/or Sabean
I’ll seriously consider giving up my season tix.
Kobe sucks
"Frankly your desire to be a seller is just proof of how blinded you are by your hatred of Sabean"-giantsrainman..LOL
by GovernorStephCurry on Jul 4, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Sadly, I doubt this site represents general Giants fan consensus...
McCovey Chronicles is for Giants Fans who are paying attention. That represents maybe 10-20% of all Giants fans, I’d say. For most Giants fans, watching baseball and the Giants is more of a diversion, not something to obsess over, the way most of us here do.
I think most fans just watch the game, forget about it five minutes later, and couldn’t even tell you who Eli Whiteside is, even if you showed them a picture of him in his uniform.
It’s that 80-90% that Bowtie, Baer and Brian are playing to, not us.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
This one I can't believe
The Giants are tied for the 11th youngest team in baseball with the Royals: 28.7.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
TOO young
They need more experience before they earn the right to play!
by Into the Void on Jul 4, 2010 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
are they counting all the young players the Giants bring up from the minors and then send back down?
Whatever Sabean thinks about the IQ of the average baseball fan, you just proved him right.
by cybermaldonado on Jul 4, 2010 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone just called in KNBR and said the giants are a young experienced team and giants fans need to be “patient with them” because there’s a lot of highs and lows.
This is a “somewhat young team” if you look at the entire roster, but that’s smoke and mirrors. The starting line up this year contained 3 players over 35, enough said.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Only 41 more games until Bochy is let go
No way he’s coming back next year.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 4, 2010 7:08 PM PDT reply actions 7 recs
Think again when Nuekom and Baer run the team
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I've been waiting to find this picture....thank you hjahahah
Kobe sucks
"Frankly your desire to be a seller is just proof of how blinded you are by your hatred of Sabean"-giantsrainman..LOL
by GovernorStephCurry on Jul 4, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
The normally pro-management posters of sfgate has turned against Bochy. There are even getting thumbs up.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
On the bright side.
Belt’s line in AA:
4 AB 1 Runs 3 Hits 1 HR 1 RBI 1 SO .429 Avg.
I think he’s going to be awesome.
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
Hopefully bochy is gone by the time he comes up, I’d hate to see him get bowkered.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Nice!
I can’t wait until Aubrey Huff pinch-runs for him in the majors!
Proud member of the Adopt-a-Giant program (Aaron Rowand)
I’m pretty sure BS would re-sign Andrey in the offseason
/4 yrs, $60m
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 4, 2010 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
terribly misspelled Audrey/Aubrey/Huffington
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 4, 2010 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Marty Laurie asks "What would Dusty Baker do with this team?"
Uh, he’ll probably ask where the fuck Marvin Benard and Shawn Estes are at. No Marvin Benard and Shawn Estes? Well get him Marvin Benard and Shawn Estes.
Fuck Armageddon, this is hell.
they’d be hitting the shit outta the ball, no doubt
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 4, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
You forgot Charlie Hayes
Buster Posey: "I'm a catcher." Brian Sabean: "I'm an idiot."
by rxmeister on Jul 4, 2010 8:41 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm in full-on pitchfork mode
Look, I understand that baseball fans have it out for their managers. i was living in Baltimore in the mid-nineties and there were fans calling for Davey Johnson’s head, and all he did was manage the Orioles into the last two postseasons of their existence. The steady state of baseball fandom is to want your manager fired.
I understand that the job is more than the boneheaded tactical decisions. Dusty Baker incinerates young arms, refuses to trust young position players, and is responsible for the greatest defensive DH in the history of the World Series, but I recognize his strengths: He kept Bonds and Kent happy and productive in the same clubhouse. His players know he has their backs and they respect him. He is bilingual and respects players of all backgrounds. I know that Dusty Baker, one of the worst tactical managers I’ve ever watched, has real, rare strengths.
That said, I’ve completely had it with Bruce Bochy. If I owned the Giants, I would have fired him during the game and replaced him with Ron Wotus. The pinch-running decision was ludicrous, the kind of decision you’d make if you were throwing the game. And this is not an isolated event. His refusal to trust young position players is downright pathological. His in-game tactical decisions are provably wrong – he’ll bunt a career .299 hitter with an 80 runner on base with no outs in the first inning. I respect how well he runs his pitching staff, but Bruce Bochy is actively, deliberately squandering the best pitching staff the Giants have enjoyed in nearly a century, and it is time for him to go.
Proud member of the Adopt-a-Giant program (Aaron Rowand)
by antinous on Jul 4, 2010 7:17 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I know this may hurt considering who your adopted Giant is, but as mentioned above- to pull two double switches and NOT take out Rowand or Renteria (a combined 1 for 12!), combined with pulling Posey AND Pablo, is just unbelievably fucking stupid.
by Into the Void on Jul 4, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL KNBR Caller
“Get rid of Burrell, call up Velez”
LOL NO
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
Yeah I was just gonna make a post
But this guy is so fucking stupid I couldn’t even conjure a comment, people like this define giants fans.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
He has a better 2 strike approach than burrell!!!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I had no idea that was a causal relationship
Can the caller do something about my offense? I don’t want to get any older.
Proud member of the Adopt-a-Giant program (Aaron Rowand)
Why does Lurie seem to think the Brewers are going to trade Braun? Am I missing something or is he batshit insane?
Fuck Armageddon, this is hell.
He said that’s the only type of player he would trade for, and that the fielder trade ideas are insane and I couldn’t agree more.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
LOL HELL NO
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
What a terrible sunday night game
A single second of it has not been watchable, poor jon miller.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
White Sox-Rangers should have been the Sunday night game.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I agree
There’s probably more people watching soccer re-runs on ESPN2 than this boring trash, I can’t stand the angels.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
my wife and I thought we mis-heard the commercial today
Royals? ahahahahaha
Also, ESPN: nobody cares about the Angles.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper."
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
This
I imagine the ratings tonight were worse than a WNBA game.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
"We didn't win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad," KNBR caller. hahah
The San Francisco Giants must win at least one World Series before I die.
I enjoyed marty lurie ripping bochys love affair with rowand and how he’s killing the team being a renteria and rowand homer.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Mmm don't get behind in the count guys, get to the pitchers early thats how you win
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
i think Shawon was at the SJ game on Friday
teach’em young /hack
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 4, 2010 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions
The Worst Ingame Decision By A MLB Manager That I Can Recall (and I have been watching since 1958).
Something has to be going on here. I can not believe even for on moment that Bruce Bochy actually believes Whiteside is enough of of a better runner then Posey is to justify this move. I know this is the reason he gave. i know he said that he thought Whiteside had a better chance to score on a gapper. But, come on, he can not really think that this better chance justified not having his starting catcher for the rest of the game. The only conclusion I can come to is that with the game on the line Bochy prefers Whiteside over Posey. This preference simply can not be tolerated.
Sabean needs to give Bochy an ultimatum, play Posey and stay with Posey or resign. If Sabean does not do this then he needs to be given this ultimatum. I am not calling for the firing of Bochy. But he does need to be reminded that he needs to be a good soldier and take orders and if he is not willing to he needs to resign .
by giantsrainman on Jul 4, 2010 7:37 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Bochy manages from fear. Fear of a Roockie making a critical mistake. Fear of loseing 90 games in a season. Those two things shape his actions more than anything else. He figures if he aviods loss in 90 games his only needs to pick up 15 or so wins to get 90 wins. In the right situation that can have a lot to merit to it. On the Giants on the last 5 year, and in the fore seeible future, it has none.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 39%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
What's weird is that Whiteside has 241 big leage PAs
It’s not lot he’s some sort grizzled vet that’s dripping with major-league savvy
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Fresno Grizzly=Grizzled
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Not so weird.
He has been around the professional game for 9 years. To a guy like Bochy that matters a lot to him. Look at the other non established “vets” that get repeated chances to shine. Velez has been in pro ball for 8 seasons, that I know of, while Torres is in his 12 year. Other than that kind of resume you have to literally be his only option to have change at regular play time.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
It’s what I’ve been saying for a while: Bochy’s decisions are all personal. He starts the guys who he likes, and benches the guys he doesn’t. I don’t think it’s just with catchers, I think it’s with everyone. He gets a reputation as a “players manager”, because the guys that he likes also like him. They form a nice tight group. Other players on the outside of that group, regardless of their talent level, get ostracized and eventually traded. He tends to like older, more mature players with a gamery personality. That’s the way he is, and he’s a lousy fit for this team.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.
He’s pretty much lived up to his scouting report:
All season, it became apparent Bochy’s time in San Diego was drawing nigh. In Saturday’s San Diego Union-Tribune, longtime Padres beat writer Tom Krasovic reported on a widening chasm between Bochy and his longtime friend in the general manager’s chair, Kevin Towers.
The main issue, Krasovic wrote, was a sense that Bochy was too loyal to older players and too reticent to use younger ones, which will be discomfiting to Giants fans who have disliked that trait in general manager Brian Sabean and former manager Felipe Alou.
The San Diego honchos believed Bochy overly relied on the likes of Ryan Klesko, Phil Nevin, Eric Young and Vinny Castilla at the expense of prospects.
Bochy has gotten good marks for running his pitching staff, particularly his bullpen.
Game management is key, and Bochy has a reputation of running one conservatively.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Bochy will not resign. There is money left on the table.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
he also believed Whiteside was faster than LOLina
which was true, but it didn’t make using Whitey as PR a good idea.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper."
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I am not calling for the firing of Bochy
Well I am. He’s got enough money. Time to retire.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 4, 2010 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s all guaranteed anyway so that stupid fuck should just be fired and go bork it up with his kids.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
That’s a really weird thing to say
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 5, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Borking with kids is not condoned by this blog.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Thy bork be done.
/runs away
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 5, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah, it is not even the worst decision this year.
Bob Geren ordered an intentional walk to pinch hitter Justin Morneau with the bases empty. The Same Justin Morneau that was so sick he couldn’t start the game at DH because he might poop his pants while on the bases, and as soon as he was walked, he was pinch run for.
The walk came around to score and the A’s lost. It was so bad, that Joe Posnanski described it as such :
Even now, I need to go back to the Gameday account to be sure that this really happened. It seems impossible to me that a big league manager would intentionally walk the winning run with the bases empty. And that winning run was wrecked by the flu? And the pitcher on the mound, Brad Ziegler, is a savage sinkerballer? Impossible is not a strong enough word. As mentioned above, I often joke about moves so bad that I would fire the manager mid-game. But I’m usually just joking. I think this move might actually be a fireable offense, no joke, no exaggeration.
The Giants deserved to lose this game. Once Whiteside pinch ran for Posey, there was no way that the Giants was going to win. Why? It is in my sig.
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Technically, GRM was right
He said bochy’s decision was the worst he could recall
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
How long before his magic rep wears off and Pozasski gets recognized as nothing special? An IBB to Justin Morneau is a basis for firing. STFU is what the response should be. His comment should be the last straw and his ass should do something worthwhile.
What the hell are you talking about?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
There is a humor standard around here? Seriously, “Poz” writes plenty of dopey shit, including the above stupidity. Yes, its politically incorrect to criticize him, but eventually that’ll wear off.
uh.
Maybe you should reconsider this opinion.
A) Poz is one of the best sportswriters in America. Seriously, I can’t think of but a handful I’d rather read on a daily basis.
B) intentionally walking someone with the bases empty is really crazy. It would have to be Barry Bonds in front of Barry Zito to make sense.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
I didn’t say that. Don’t let that stand in your way of snark. But hey, go ahead and point to some criticism of him by you.
Lots of standards here, Sam.
Subjectively speaking.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 5, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
uh
He’s obnoxious and arrogant. Bleating about TLR or how dreamy Albert is pretty much seals that. Crazy? Yeah, sure.
God forbid a sportswriter would write complimentary articles about the best player in the game.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Could you explain what’s wrong with someone writing an article or multiple articles, even, about Albert Pujols and how awesome he is?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Could you point out which articles specifically are getting your goat?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
that one about the trolls, most likely
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Per example?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Is there something not dreamy about Albert?
Also TLR = Tony LaRussa? You’re talking about him getting on Tony Larussa for overmanaging, I take it? Because, God help me, Tony LaRussa is a great manager, but he does overmanage a baseball game if anyone does.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
the trick is to enter both names into google search. the first article that pops up is him taking down LaRussa for overmanaging.
Also, you are aware that Posnanski is not a Cardinals fan, right?
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
That's hilarious
Putting aside your introductory condescension, the title to the article is adulatory to the extreme. What follows is embarrassing. It should have been closed with a bunch of XOXOs.
yeah,
he does explain that LaRussa does all this stuff because he wants to win, but you honestly don’t feel the exasperated tone of the description?
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
I didn't read exasperation. Did I miss it?
I read the spring 2009 article, then the April 2010 “overmanaging” article.
He seems to have fun with LaRussa’s obsession, but credits him with honest intent.
When it ended, there were many ready to rip Tony La Russa… and that’s fair. But to me that game was vintage La Russa. He has never apologized for the overwhelming way he manages baseball games. He never will. He tries to win, all-out, all the time. Hit and run. Pull the pitcher. Send in a pinch-hitter. When you manage baseball games that way, like a heavyweight boxer throwing haymakers, you win some and you lose some, and you make a lot of people angry. But one thing is for sure: You never go to sleep wishing you had tried harder.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 5, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
What was stupid about what he wrote? Walking Morneau in that situation was really fucking dumb.
And Posnanski is an excellent writer – and a guy who seriously cares about the sport and writes about it from the perspective of someone who enjoys his job and enjoys the fact that he gets to write about baseball for a living, which is wonderful in a time when so many people who cover it seem to actively hate it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
No, he’s not an excellent writer. He’s fashionable and popular with some people. Those are not the same thing. And he cares about the sport? You’re joking right?
As for really fucking dumb, I’d say the criticism is really fucking stupid as shit.
Why is he a poor writer?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
How is he not an excellent writer?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
HE’S JUST NOT, OKAY!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
You can more or less hold me up as the standard for humor around here. If you’re below that line, watch out!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Is that what you are?
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 5, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it was still a crappy comment
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
And still not a clever nickname.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 5, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
The Little Mermaid reference in his username is top notch, though.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Jetsam is a character in the DIsney film, dude.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I really don’t understand what you’re getting at.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
This is one of the most bizarre endings to one of my jokes ever.
Yes, I have seen Disney’s The Little Mermaid.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Whew. I was dying to know.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I’ve also seen Aladdin!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Awww Yeeeah
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally missed the opportunity to use Disasster.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 5, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Yo grm
I’m sorry for being a douche to you lately. i shouldn’t have done that. Forgive me grm?
Kobe's a jerk and overrated.
"Frankly your desire to be a seller is just proof of how blinded you are by your hatred of Sabean"-giantsrainman..LOL
"We didn't win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad,"-KNBR caller.
by GovernorStephCurry on Jul 5, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
The only games to look forward to the rest of the season might just be Tim Lincecum and Joe DiMaggio bobblehead nights.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
breaking: Bochy bobblehead night cancelled
management saying there weren’t any springs big enough to bobble his head. Could be true.
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
Oh wow, the Grizzlies are wearing ugly hats.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 7:52 PM PDT reply actions
WTF, Jackson Williams got demoted to Fresno?
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 4, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
He caught two of the three games I went to in Sacramento.
by kdl on Jul 4, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, I swear Joe Paterson pitched in the game yesterday, but he’s not on the roster and an earlier item has him as being optioned to San Jose. Also, I’m pretty sure I got his autograph. Am I losing my mind? He’s number 25, and there’s no 25 on the roster right now.
by kdl on Jul 4, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
He was demoted to San Jose.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I just looked it up — he was, but then they demoted Borchard to SJ yesterday and brought Paterson back up. He did pitch, and I’m not crazy. Thank you, Fresno Bee:
Grizzlies outfielder Joe Borchard was transferred to High-A San Jose in order to make room for RH reliever Joe Paterson, who was shifted from San Jose and pitched 11/3 innings Saturday.
by kdl on Jul 4, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Huh. Weird. Borchard’s playing in Fresno right now.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s possible.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
:D
Ahah, I think you really are becoming a full fledged minor league fan!
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Just what I need, lol, But, I couldn’t believe how fun it was!
Side note: I created a fanpost with my pics from this week.
by kdl on Jul 4, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
There was some major punctuation fail there. Yikes.
by kdl on Jul 4, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha, I didn’t notice. But, yeah, I was surprised at how fun minor league games were when I went to my first one.
Oooh. I’ll go check that out right now.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep, they did:
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=l_trn&lid=112&sid=t259
07/04/2010 Assigned Fresno Grizzlies Joe Borchard OF Joe Borchard assigned to Fresno Grizzlies from San Jose Giants.
07/04/2010 Assigned San Jose Giants Joe Paterson Joe Paterson assigned to San Jose Giants from Fresno Grizzlies.
LOL
They could be Giants...but not really.
The life of a minor league ballplayer must kind of suck.
by kdl on Jul 4, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
In a way, yeah. Have you ever read Garrett Broshuis’ blog or The Bullpen Gospels? It’s an accurate representation of how a minor leaguer lives.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I love Garrett Broshius. His blog is so great, and I follow him on Twitter. I haven’t read the The Bullpen Gospels yet, though. I need to get on that.
by kdl on Jul 4, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Garrett’s one of my favorite people on Twitter, haha. But, yeah, The Bullpen Gospels is fantastic. Definitely raunchy at times, but it’s also touching in a non-sappy way.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
boo
I looked at that at Borders last weekend and put it back like an idiot cheapskate. Maybe I’ll dust off the library card.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper."
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
You should really read it. It’s worth dusting off the library card.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Velez caught stealing again.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I think joe morgan just tried to take a shot at how awful the giants are with young players when he was talking about frandsen.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I just made this my sig-line haha.
“We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad,” KNBR caller.
Kobe Bean Bryant is a douche and profoundly overrated by the media.
"Frankly your desire to be a seller is just proof of how blinded you are by your hatred of Sabean"-giantsrainman..LOL
"We didn't win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad,"-KNBR caller.
by GovernorStephCurry on Jul 4, 2010 8:02 PM PDT reply actions
Marty is now fulling pushing the zambrano for rowand trade bus in full force, that would be a miracle if that happened especially if the cubs made the deal financially sound.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
LOL math
75% A Huff triple!
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper."
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Even if Bochy were to get fired....
…it would only be a short term fix at best as long as the organization up top is still the same….Sabean, inability to draft and develop position players in particular.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
Let's fix one thing at a time
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Bring on steve decker
I want mike soscia like production out of the youngsters.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
you sound like Sabean…one year at a time
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 4, 2010 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Fire Bochy, hire Ron Wotus as interim manager the rest of the season, call up Steve Decker as a bench coach.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
What's funny is
In the giants last in the 9 games with bochy managing they are 0-8, and with ron wotus who managed saturdays game we’re 1-0 LOL BORK.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Sabean has drafted pretty well
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Aside from hist first decade as our GM, maybe.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
That wasn't the strategy at the time
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
This is such a silly justification. It wasn’t our strategy to draft decent players! That’s a condemnation of the front office, not a defense of it.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
I agree with that, sure. It was probably a bad strategy. But the fact is that as soon as Sabean started making a concerted effort to focus on the draft, he did it very well.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Isn’t that also the same time he hired Tidrow?
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
Bosses get credit for good hires, no?
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
I had this discussion with someone else last year, I think.
My eventual position was, to paraphrase, “Okay, so Sabean is definitely good at one thing: hiring Dick Tidrow. Having completed this task, he can go now.”
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
Don't you want to keep him around
So he can hire other good people too? Tidrow might leave some day.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
He also hired Bochy and Alou, you know.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
Everyone makes mistakes!
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
and tries to correct them.
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
I think it was also the strategy
to sign bad players to lose draft picks.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
God velez is bad
Way to get CS’d after getting on as the lead off man LOL FAIL.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
cornerstone of the future
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Missed the part of the game where we scored due to 4th festivities
and then all the parts where we didn’t score and then they didn’t score and then they did.
But I have tickets for the game tomorrow in milwaukee, we have no bullpen to speak of to back up Sanchez, do we?
I expect something along the lines of a 9-2 final.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
The bullpen consists of a fresh bautista, casilla, and chris ray. Everyone else in the LOLpen pitched 2 or 3 days in a row and hasn’t had the best results minus romo. Could be pretty brutal unless the giants score 10 runs.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
How did this happen?
The Padres are tied for the 2nd best record in baseball with the Red Sox.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
What the actual fuck.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
They're 16 games above .500
16!!! Giants are done.
I ain't havin' it
by NuschlerFace on Jul 5, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I get it now
The Giants won’t fire Bochy nor allow him to resign. August 14th is Bruce Bochy bobblehead day. The front office doesn’t want those to go to waste (even though the sponsors, Grapes From California, are paying for it).
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
BTW
This year’s Tim bobblehead:
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Ha
AFI is from the the Ukiah area, where I live, and I went to school with Davey at UCBerkeley. He had just gotten his lip pierced when he was in my Comp Lit class. Nice guy with a big lithp at the time.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
one of the nicest guys i've ever known
don’t love the music, but Davey is a super down to earth, awesome dude.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
It’d be cool if there was a button on the back and it would start spewing profanities.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
- splutter-
That gets the Anarchist vote.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 4, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Did this maybe jinx him?
6/30/10- The Beginning of a New Era
by Bballpitcher2 on Jul 4, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Who decided to give him lipstick? How many people have to approve the design before it is implemented??
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
Victor Martinez got traded the day before his bobblehead day when he was playing with the Indians.
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
not-so secretly hoping this is how bruce bochy bobblehead day goes
6/30/10- The Beginning of a New Era
by Bballpitcher2 on Jul 4, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Are we completely against the idea of sending Pablo to Fresno for a week or more to help him clear his head and get him going again?
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
Yes. He’s been disappointing, but he doesn’t need to go to Fresno.
Ask me about my blog.
by xanthan on Jul 4, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am in this line.
Panda not being Super man is the least of our issues.
In fact one could say he is one of the best chances to “regress” upwards in teh last half of the season. If Hhhhiiieeead leaves him alone and resists the urge to bat Molinia and or rowand type behind im I think he will come out of this bout of mortalitiy..
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
/bowtie, baer: are the panda hats still selling?
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 4, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
At 20 bucks a pop, it’s still selling
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
then panda stays in the giants lineup
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 4, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I was listening to bits and pieces of this game on the radio and I was shocked when Bochy took out Posey for Whiteside. Shocked I say.
Ask me about my blog.
I was following the game on At Bat and I freaked out because I thought Posey was injured. It was the only explanation I could think of.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
you and Kruk and Kuip too
sadly, all three mistaken.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper."
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I am glad he wasn’t injured.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
just his pride
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper."
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
whoops this is the right tweet for his statement after the game
extrabaggs
Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper.
bork bork
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Baggs tweeted this after the game
he Giants bench is empty. But I think I’d rather see Madison Bumgarner hitting right now than Renteria or Whiteside. Can Maddy play SS?
Right after he smoked a 2 out single to extend the rally for the eventual game tying run, all star manager right there.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
BAGGS YR LOSING ME
TOO NEGATIVE JUST ENJOY THE GAME!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
I was half paying attention to this game at the family barbecue when it happened. I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head.
Also, when I told my Dad about it, he did a literal facepalm.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head.
Thanks for providing me with my new sig.
Giants Baseball: TORTURE
Yey!
I like doing that.
Hey, congratulations on little kitspool. (kitspuddle?)
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
LOL
My out burst was load enough my wife actualy used a cuss word when telling me to shut up. That is like Velez turning in a defensive gem.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
Load enough
to make your wife swear. Impressive.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Omg I’ve never listened to KNBR but I’m listening to Marty Lurie and some guy said
OMGZ NATE IS DONE HE LOOKS FEMININE AT THE PLATE, PAT BURRELL LOOKS LIKE A MAN
wow.
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
What the hell.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Also
This comes after Nate hits a HR and Burrell pathetically strikes out
I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz
With a runner on 3rd and no outs.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
It's Pat!
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper."
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
ESPN mentions the All Stars
Of course, the first three they name are Yankees.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Jayson stark wrote an article about all star snubs
He even mentioned cain and huff and people that deserved to go, I was shocked to say the least.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Of course, of all the Giants, Torres is probably the biggest snub. Oh well!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yup
His value is through the roof, he’s up to 3.2 WAR now which is tied for 2nd among outfielders in the majors :D.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Holy shit.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s really been an amazing player, but he won’t get any real attention for it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
He’s been recognized in various ESPN articles but just a miniature blurb that no one outside of a giant fan will notice. What’s funny is a lot of giants “fans” don’t even think torres is that good and would rather have rowand out there /facepalm.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
a lot of giants "fans" don’t even think torres is that good and would rather have rowand out there
eg Bruce Bochy
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
But let's be honest
On the national stage, he’s hardly a “star”.
Journeyman who had a nice season last year when pressed into duty. Having an excellent season this year. If he keeps producing the rest of the season and the first half of next, then he might get some consideration.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Time for a firesale
7.5 GB in division
wildcard is possible witin 5 gb, but 6 other teams in that race is the issue.
Uribe, Huff will not be part of this team next yr. Time to shop them.
Trade rowand for an equal salary dump player w/ a bad contract.
Inquire on fielder or hart from MIL who’ll be signed through 2011.
OR
Fire Bochy now.
Give Decker his job.
Then look at teams that A) are in a pennant race, B) can take on salary, and C) need a SS or CF
Trade Rent for whatever. Not sure anyone wants Rowand, but offer him for Zambrano.
Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!
by Giantsfan4life on Jul 4, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
it's not just the 7.5 games
it’s being behind three other teams.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper."
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
WE'RE IN THIS THING!
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
It's not a firesale if you try to acquire talent that won't be around for a long time
Especially if you have to give up talent to get them.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
LOL
And the Grizz win!
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Did it take 233949 pitches like he did vs. Wilson?
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
4
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
RyRohl made a fantastic play, by the way!
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
It was awesome. The throw beat Kaz by the tiniest step possible.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Love it, especially after that walk off grounder that beat the Grizz on Friday night. Poor Ryan.
by kdl on Jul 4, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
That made me sad, really. So it’s nice to see he made an awesome play today.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I bet he’s happy. He takes it so seriously!
by kdl on Jul 4, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Every time I saw Geno this week, I thought of that.
by kdl on Jul 4, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
AAAA all-star game?
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper."
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
The song is played at Target Field whenever All-Star Joe Mauer comes to bat. Mauer has won three batting titles and an 2009 MVP Award while having “What You Know” as his music. The year he changed the song, 2007, he failed to win a batting title and switched back in 2008 to “What You Know” and has won back to back titles since.
Get on it, Giants. Pablo needs a change.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
When Barry Zito started walking out to a Jaydiohead track he became less bad. Are corny mashups the key to success? Yes, yes they are. Make it happen.
Fuck Armageddon, this is hell.
From Schulman's article
Whiteside represented the go-ahead run and is faster than Posey, Bochy said. With reliever Rafael Betancourt’s slow delivery, Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second. Before he could, Ishikawa hit the tying single, which sent Whiteside to third. Renteria grounded sharply to shortstop Clint Barmes behind the mound to end the inning.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/04/SPC01E9J9T.DTL#ixzz0smUErFSE
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
HE MIGHT HAVE HAD WHITESIDE TRY TO STEAL SECOND
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HE MIGHT HAVE HAD WHITESIDE TRY TO STEAL SECOND
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
He has to be covering his ass at this point. “Oh yeah, Whitey is faster than Buster. HE’S SO FAST I WAS GOING TO LET HIM TRY TO STEAL SECOND!”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
It’s humorous how he initially says he replaced posey because “He felt whiteside had a better chance to score on a gapper”. He then defends himself later by saying "He felt whiteside had a much better chance to steal a base off benacourts.. really? There is nothing that bochy can say to hide from the fact about why he removed posey. It’s blatantly obvious and one of the key major flaws to his pathetic managing style, can’t wait till this wide domed idiot is no longer sleeping in the giants dugout.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
GMs and managers are constantly having their players suck it up and admit when they make mistakes to the media. How hard would it be for Bochy to just admit “Yeah I totally fucked that shit up.” At this point, everyone knows it was dumb and nothing he can say is going to make him look like it was an intelligent move. He’s not saving his job by making up dumb excuses or anything.
Fuck Armageddon, this is hell.
In which Bruce Bochy just can't stop trying to dig his way out of that hole
“You don’t think that’s true? Well, uh, Whitey is actually the fastest guy on our team. Yep, yep, no doubt about it, he wins impromptu footraces all the time. Against who? Uh, Torres, mostly. He beats Torres by so much that it’s like Andres hasn’t even gotten started. No, no, this absolutely happened. It was…uh…when Velez was up, and he was like ‘Hey Eli, you’re fast’ and Eli shrugged because he’s not only the fastest man in the world, he’s the humblest. Question? Oh, yeah, I’m sure, he’s definitely the humblest. Oh, am I sure about the other thing? Yeah, easily, the fastest man in the world. He actually beat Usain Bolt at the Olympics a couple years ago. You don’t remember that? Well, it’s probably because Whitey went so fast that…uh…I’ll come clean with you…
Eli Whiteside is The Flash."
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Jul 4, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Eli Whiteside is The Flash
The Grey Flash?
The Silver Streak?
The Misty Skid Mark?
I miss the times when ball player had good nick names not just an “ie” or aberations of their first and last name crushed together…
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
LOL
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Renteria hitting a gapper
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 5, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
/goes to bookmarks
/selects Edgar Renteria bbref page
/looks up random Renteria fact
/clicks post
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
This confirms my knowledge that bochy has no fucking clue what he's doing
It’s unfortunate he got away with double switching and removing sandoval early instead of renteria and rowand LOL BLIND VETERAN FAITH.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
When Sanchez takes the mound tomorrow and if he sees Renteria and Rowand behind him, he should just say “Fuck it” and leave.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
/sanchez see’s rowand, renteria, and whiteside in line up
“Hey boch I got the flu I’m gonna have to skip this start”
/plays red dead redemption in clubhouse
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
So sick of listening to Bochy's lies.
Whiteside represented the go-ahead run and is faster than Posey
But apparently not faster than Bengie because I don’t recall Eli pinch running for him a lot.
Whatever Sabean thinks about the IQ of the average baseball fan, you just proved him right.
by cybermaldonado on Jul 4, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
It's as if he's begging to get fired so he doesn't lose any of his money
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Actually Whiteside Did Pinchrun For Bengie Alot
Frankly you had to not be watching to not notice.
by giantsrainman on Jul 4, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
He pinch ran 6 times this year. And 3 times last year.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
(not counting today)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
setting the record for pinch-running appearances by a C
(I hope)
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
6 Time In Half A Season Is Alot
It is just about every time Bengie was on base late in a game where he represented the tying or go ahead run.
by giantsrainman on Jul 4, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I was just presenting the numbers, with no editorial comment.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I Was Just Providing The Missing Editorial Comment. :-)
by giantsrainman on Jul 4, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I was horrified the one or two times I saw it happen
and choose not to read box scores that closely, thus avoiding delayed horror.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m fine with Whiteside PRing for Bengie – he’s definitely faster than him. But pinch running for Buster was absolutely asinine
And I bet Buster would have gotten Huff home from third.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on Jul 4, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
the only explanation is that Bork forgot Bengie had been traded and just knee-jerk pinch-ran Whiteside for his catcher
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
this is what happened
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
LOL! I was gonna say the same thing
By the time he saw Buster coming back to the dugout and realized what he’d done, it was too late.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I don't remember
ever seeing a C used with any regularity as a PR. Ever. That’s actually something they could do with Rowand that would be an improvement.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I would much rather see them pinch run with a pitcher, personally.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
well sure
assuming you don’t mean Timmy but (1) that makes sense and therefore won’t happen and (2) using Rowand also means he won’t be used to PH.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Which Pitcher Is A Faster And Better Baserunner Then Ether Posey Or Whiteside?
I do not think we have one with the possible exception of Bumgarner who is an unknown.
by giantsrainman on Jul 4, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess it’s difficult to compare the running speed of Whiteside and the pitchers. I feel like Cain runs pretty well, though.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
since none of them catch
I vote for anybody. Also, they will only run if the ball is hit so that shouldn’t come up much either.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Hasn't Zito pinch run in the past?
I don’t know why, but thought he had.
I’d imagine that Timmy’s the fastest starter.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I was also OK with Whiteside PRing for Bengie...
Asking him to steal a base? Erm…
There was at least one time when Bochy had Whiteside attempt to steal a base, with I think Uribe up. The result, predictably, was Eli being caught stealing. Bochy really thinks Whiteside is fast. That’s just plumb crazy.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
If he pinch ran six times for Bengie, that means he did it every time Bengie was on base this season. GRM is right,
Buster Posey: "I'm a catcher." Brian Sabean: "I'm an idiot."
by rxmeister on Jul 5, 2010 6:03 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The difference is that Molina is slow, Posey is not
They also had Posey on the bench as another catcher on the bench
I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz
no, don't
That’s the other failtastic part of it- not only is it pointless, it also wastes the backup C. I know Pablo is a good C but risking having him make his first appearance at C in a close/tied/extra-inning game is just as bad. Of course, he just got bork’d out later on a DS anyway, which then left, oh, I dunno, Huff as the only emergency C.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
This was probably the worst managed game I have ever seen. I cant recall another that was this sucktastic
I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz
not having a backup C is a minor, minor point
just illustrating the onion-like fail of this. At least he didn’t lose the DH with one of the double switches.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
As pointed out in the GD thread it also managed to remove the option of an emergency pitcher as well. That one move had a cornucopia of fuck up in one package. If worried about Posey being too tired to catch they should have shifted him to a CO ( or CI) spot between innings and kept the other two options open.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
I can
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLN/SLN200610080.shtml
Too bad Sabean and Magowan saw it otherwise.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Never Said It Was A Smart Move To Pinch Run For Posey Today
In fact if you look Iyou will find I called it the worst ingame management decision I can recall watching since and including the first MLB I watched in 1958.
by giantsrainman on Jul 4, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s probably because you just don’t remember Bengie ever being on base.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
AROUND THE HOUSE
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
/changes sig again
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Just so you guys know
In his professional career, Whiteside has 10 SB’s and 15 CS’s.
I was promised lasagna.
10 steals?
GREEN LIGHT DOWN THE STRETCH, NERDS!
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Shout out to Uribe from Yahoo
Manuel had plenty better choices among utilitymen. Juan Uribe(notes) is a plus fielder at second and third base, plays shortstop if necessary and is a far better hitter than Infante, whose .367 average with runners in scoring position is gaudy – and almost certainly a small-sample-size anomaly
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
I didn't think any all star game could out do the fail of the 2009-2010 NBA all star game
And then I saw the 2010 MLB all star game roster… wow. Joey votto not being an all star and alex rodriguez being an all star basicially sums it up.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
LOL
Uribe doesn’t play for the Pillies, why would he get picked?
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
i had to work today, but i followed the game on my phone. just wanted to say
FUCK YOU BRUCE BOCHY
FUCK YOU
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 4, 2010 10:41 PM PDT reply actions
as a Rockies fan and general Rockies Ambassador to McC
your manager is a fucking idiot
I wonder what it feels like to work in a real police department...
Denver.SBNation.com
Don’t let Purple Row hear you said that!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
we're all saying it
fire Bochy or at least hire an assassin. I may know a guy
I wonder what it feels like to work in a real police department...
Denver.SBNation.com
I meant the profanity.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
eh, we're a time zone away
it’ll be safe
I wonder what it feels like to work in a real police department...
Denver.SBNation.com
*it'll be "fucking" safe
sorry
I wonder what it feels like to work in a real police department...
Denver.SBNation.com
fuck yeah.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
VAPORS!!!!
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 4, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
aw come on dude
I wonder what it feels like to work in a real police department...
Denver.SBNation.com
I know that one gimme a break
/translates to McC
FUCKFUCKSHITBORKBORKBORK
I wonder what it feels like to work in a real police department...
Denver.SBNation.com
by Muzia on Jul 4, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 5, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
understatement of the year... however
Tracy ain’t no genius himself….Like bunting over Fowler with nobody out instead of attempting a steal only to have the giants walk Gonzalez to get to your own POS Todd Helton……
Helton…got the game winner sac fly, BUT…he’s fucking done…stick a fork in him. Helton = Rowand at this point.
by ScottinMarin1 on Jul 4, 2010 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh Hai.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 4, 2010 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I told you guys he was back.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I don’t think I saw that. I’ve done some due diligence, and I can’t imagine that it’s anybody else.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 4, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
The pixels?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 4, 2010 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw them a long time ago
They rocked.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 4, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, yeah.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 4, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Fast, slow, fast.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 5, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
After the parade was over and all the fucking tourists cleared out
I walked over the one of the restaurants close by and had a nice dinner. As I was walking home, a car pulled up next to me and the driver told me to get in. I was all like, “WTF?”. I took a closer look at the driver and it was Bruce Bochy.
Eli Whiteside got out of the car and finished my walk home.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 4, 2010 10:52 PM PDT reply actions 12 recs
/stands and applauds
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READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 4, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
green'd
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 4, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve never felt strongly about Bochy one way or another. But it’s time. His inexplicable treatment of Buster is a firing offense.
This
I’ve always thought he had both strengths and weaknesses. At this point, the weaknesses can’t be overcome.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
You can really see the difference in the beat writers’ approach through their game stories today. Schulman simply reports that Bochy said Whiteside is faster. Baggs, meanwhile, rips the decision about as much as a beat writer can.
I like both of the beat reporters, but Baggs’ analysis is almost always much closer to my thinking.
Baggs was leaning towards becoming a Schulman-type for awhile
But I think he’s getting frustrated again.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
When he made the “Just enjoy the game” statement after the 2-1 loss to Colorado in extra’s at AT&T he got ripped. That woke up his journalistic integrity and now he’s somewhat interesting to read again, very anti-schulman.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
the lunatic fringe has now become mainstream
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 5, 2010 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL BORK
Baggs:
What must they do differently over the next 81 games to make this season count for something?
“Well, we need to win more games,” Bochy said.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
Botchy continued
“we also need to score more runs, and maybe keep the other team from scoring”.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Christ
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 5, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I was in the shower and a thought crossed my mind
What if it IS time to trade Tim Lincecum? We’ve been at this for years. First it was “build around Bonds with veterans”. Then it is "build around this “once in a lifetime” pitching staff and sign veterans."
With Buster Posey, Pablo Sandoval, Thomas Neal and (hopefully 1 or 2 of Crawford, Kieschnick, Belt) pre arbitration eligible, and with Bumgarner, Wheeler, and Cain looking to hopefully stay in San Francisco for years to come, what if we can get 3-4 pieces of young, projectable, front line players for Tim Lincecum, Dan Haren style?
Dan Haren’s Haul for Oakland :
Brett Anderson, Dana Eveland and Greg Smith, infielder Chris Carter and outfielders Aaron Cunningham and Carlos Gonzalez.
Chris Carter will be up this year, Carlos Gonzalez was subsequently traded to the Rockies in the Matt Holliday deal, but you all know how good he is by now, and Brett Anderson is an Ace quality starter. That’s 2 A (CarGon, Anderson), a B+ (carter), and a couple of B- / C+ for Dan Haren.
What if Texas is willing to offer Martin Perez, Justin Smoak, and Mitch Moreland ?
What if the Red Sox is willing to offer Casey Kelly, Lars Anderson, and Jose Iglesia?
What if the Rays is willing to offer Demond Jennings, BJ Upton, and Alex Colome?
In the end, I know 2 time cy young award winner sells tickets, and it is virtually impossible for the ownership group to explain to the fans why they are willing to ship the face of the franchise out of the door, but from a baseball standpoint, I think the Giants will be setup for long term success 2012 – 2016 if we can get 3 key pieces for Lincecum to go with the current core of Posey, Bumgarner, Wheeler, Neal, Sandoval, extending Cain as the key piece of veteran beyond 2012.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Wheeler in SF for a long time to come? Why don’t we get him to San Jose before we start saying stuff like that…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I mean player control. By no means am I saying Wheeler is good enough to play in the majors. I mean when he is up here and is good, he is locked in cheap for 3 years and has 3 more years of control beyond that.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I mean when he is up here and is good, he is locked in cheap for 3 years and has 3 more years of control beyond that.
You cannot possibly assume any of this.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Not only can you not assume this
The odds are significantly against it.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 4, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I wrote the Wheeler part as almost an afterthought
throw that out, it is, like, 1% of what I want to write. I don’t want to get caught up on this point.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I forgot to mention, the reason why I’m even entertaining this though is because there has been almost no worthwhile free agent recently. Improving the team through free agency equals either Massively overpaying for one key player, or take your chances and fill with over the hill cheap veterans. The Giants have tried both and failed at both.
The name of the game is young talent, and with the Giants’ inability to identify and spend wisely in latin america, the best way to get influx of young player is by trading a front line starter. The market recently clearly indicates that teams are hesitant to part with prospects for #3 starters or solid veteran position players, but is willing to pay through the nose for the front line, Ace Number One starter with team control.
Hence, the only way for the Giants to “catch the next wave” is to stay ahead of the game, and get 3-4 pieces in that are on the same time table as Neal, Crawford, Kieschnick.
Ideally it will look like this when we are ready to contend :
Sandoval : 4 years service time
Posey, Bumgarner: 3 years service time
Neal, Crawford, Belt : 1 years service time
Wheeler, Joseph : incoming rookie
And if we can fit in a couple of more pieces in between teh Posey and Neal time, ie, players that will be ready in 2011/2012 time frame, we’re looking at a couple of years of contention window between 2013 and 2014 while we have all of these players under team control.
You want all your best players come up in waves. Instead of trying to add to this wave with Wilson Lincecum and Cain, we should build for the next wave and stay ahead of the curve.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I respect your willingness to blow shit up on this July 4
but I worry about counting those San Jose/Augusta/AZL chickens before they hatch. I’d rather see the 30+ reborn guys peddled.
Also, can this happen after Brain goes away? Thank you.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
some would say my brain has already gone away by writing this shit.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
What this comes down too is a managment team willing to risk young postion players could turn in over 2.5 WAR season. Our current management team isn’t so staying the same is the best that can be hoped for.
Besides I suspect Sabean would trade Tim for 3 30+ years old that were “all stars” and/ or batting average kings once.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
and it is virtually impossible for the ownership group to explain to the fans why they are willing to ship the face of the franchise out of the door
This will result in the Giants getting their own tarp for the upper deck.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 4, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
When it comes right down to it, the currency in this game is not money
Money can’t buy Martin Perez and Justin Smoak. They simply are not available on the open market even if Sabean is willing to spend 100 million dollars on Smoak for 7 years. There are no 23 year old blue chip players available in free agency.
The only bargaining currency we have is Front Line Starter. We have two of those, Lincecum and Cain. Too bad the casual fan cannot understand this concept.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
The casual fan makes up the majority of ticket sales
These are the people that ownership will cater to. Like it or not, Lincecum sells beer, detergent and steel belted radials. He makes the team money. Neukom and Baer are not in the habit of giving away money.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 4, 2010 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
completely agree
still waiting for the first world series championship in the San Francisco Era.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
The problem is that there is a huge chunk of Giants fans that couldn’t care less about winning, a front office that understands that it doesn’t need a winning team in order to sell tickets, and a media group so terrified of negativity that it ends up continually excusing the team’s incompetent leadership.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 5, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Not gonna happen anytime soon for the reasons you mentioned....and
I certainly wouldn’t let Sabean make ANY major moves at this point. He goes down with the ship he built. I want a clean start with the fresh vision of a new GM and Manager in ’11.
Clean house before we do something stupid. The Giants aren’t going anywhere this season anyway. The 88 wins last year saved his ass for another season. He’s not gonna be so lucky this time.
by ScottinMarin1 on Jul 4, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Psh, the Giants should just tank for a few years to get all the high picks and then emerge as a contender. That’s what all the cool teams are doing these days.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
that was what 2006 / 2007 was for!
(btw, protected 1st round pick for 2011 would be fucking awesome. I think top 15 picks get somebody good.) Make it happen, sabes.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
What makes this so fustrateing is this team is close to being rebuilt for a run. To take the next step the managmentt team has to be willing to risky/invest play time in the Lewis and frandsen types.. They do that in couple position and can stack the current freee agent contracts and take a run at a true differnce maker ( ie Holiday last winter) and some times you get lucky and theyoung guy plays out of his mind and you get an extra WAR out of him as well.
And don’t get me started on Garko. If they thought enough of him to trade for him, at that age, giveing him good 200 PA’s unless you have some one much better in house. In that case why are you tradeing for him?
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
You know what you get with Lincecum
If the trade goes bad, and some prospects dont pan out, this team is in the cellar for 10+ years
I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz
Yeah, those prospects certainly didn’t pan out, and Minnesota is in the cellar after that Johan Santana Trade……….
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
If you can produce talent like Joe Mauer and Justin Morneau and rip teams off for bad catchers (lol) you will probably be ok. Santana had 1 year left on his deal. Lincecum has 3 and half more years of team control. They should not be compared.
I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz
Lincecum should fetch much better prospects. If it is not 2 A prospects and a B+, I’m hanging up the phone.
The other way to think about it is —> Tommy John. I am not continced that the Giants are in the cellars for 10 years if Timmy gets hurt.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I'm not saying OMG trade Lincecum Nao
I’m saying he shouldn’t be untouchable, and if teams are willing to throw themselves at the Giants, we need to have an open mind and rape them for the return.
Like, if Martin Perez, Justin Smoak, and Mitch Moreland is on the table? You gotta at least consider it. The money saved from Timmy’s next 3 years can also go towards another piece.
Don’t make an even trade, but if teams are willing to rape themselves, then do eeeeetttt.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Lincecum is worth more to the Giants than he is to anyone else. As you said, he’s the face of the franchise. Other teams will say he’s lost velocity and throw in the concerns about the small frame. They’ll talk about his problems on hot days. They’ll point out his struggles against the Red Sox and say he’ll have a problem in the DH league. And most of all, they’d be suspicious as to why the Giants would be willing to trade him. You won’t get the haul you think you’ll get for him.
Buster Posey: "I'm a catcher." Brian Sabean: "I'm an idiot."
by rxmeister on Jul 5, 2010 6:21 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
If you’re gonna trade anyone, trade Cain. He’s the one with the fluky high ERA.
I was promised lasagna.
I will cut you.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I really don’t think that anyone is fooled into thinking Cain is anything but a ~3.50 ERA pitcher (maybe a little higher in a park that doesn’t help him so much on his copious flyballs). If they are, they are probably the types that would be just as put off by his win-loss record.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
It seems that the consensus around this place is that he’s been better than Lincecum. So I’m gonna have to disagree. I think it’s fair to say that no GM actually cares about W-L anymore, but fluky ERA’s still fool people.
I was promised lasagna.
Oh man, not that consensus stuff
That’s GRM/OGC sort of talk
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
FOR THE SWARM!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 5, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Do you seriously think that most people on MCC think Cain is better than Lincecum? What?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I really don’t think that’s a consensus here at all.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Well, I don’t know how to check that. But I seem to remember a lot of comments about how Cain deserves to go to the AS game more than Lincecum. And some disagreed not because Lincecum has been better this year, but because he’s more of a star, has won two CYA’s, etc.
I was promised lasagna.
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/7/4/1552062/lincecum-wilson-all-stars#41245494
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
That doesn’t look like a consensus to me
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I don’t see a single person there who says Lincecum has been better. They agree Cain has had a better first half, but disagree on whether or not that’s the only thing that matters.
I was promised lasagna.
There are like six people in that conversation
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Wait
I thought you’re the one who posted the link, trying to show that people don’t think Cain has been better.
I was promised lasagna.
I posted the link because that’s the only place I’ve seen that discussion take place. I thought having the reference might help inform the conversation either way.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it makes sense, just, combined with jponry’s comment, it looked like she’s saying it’s proof that people don’t think Cain has been better.
I was promised lasagna.
I mean, I’m not saying that there aren’t some people who think Cain has been better. And I’m sure most people in the mainstream think he’s been better, in part because he’s exceeded expectations while Tim has been “disappointing”.
But I think saying that there’s any sort of ‘consensus’ on the matter is ridiculous.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
And even if it’s not the consensus here, Cain is still overrated at the moment, and Lincecum is probably underrated. Baggs, for example, wrote about how Cain has a better ERA and better peripherals than Lincecum. Baggs isn’t the most stat savy writer out there, but still.
I was promised lasagna.
lincy vs Cain
i think Lincy is better stuff than Cain and obviously record wise ,performance wise last two year as well.
I am ,however, still trouble by Lincy’s small frame and his max effort delivery. I just don’t know if he won’t break down soon or later. that said, i don’t if Cain will either such is state of pitching. But Cain looks more durable than Lincy.
Era over ten tears. You good with that?
I’ll be there, win or lose.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 5, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope that’s not the consensus, and I honestly doubt that it is. I think people may be more worried about Lincecum right now, but that says more about how well Lincecum has performed at his best, than it does about actual performance.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
/bites tongue
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 5, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I would trade Cain, of course
But only for something fuckin’ great. At least two more years of control, young, and cheap.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Braun is on an 8 year contract at good price.
Brewers would never give him up for Cain.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Those are the only type of trades that are deemed acceptable. Unless the other team is completely raped, its a no go.
What?
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Braun for Cain is ok because its ridiculously lopsided. Anything that’s close to equal isn’t acceptable.
What?
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
I think he’s saying that people on MCC only like trades if the Giants rip off the other team.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I think he’s saying that it’s not worth trading Cain in a fair deal. That coming out even doesn’t justify the loss.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree with that.
Sure he is not flashy but he is corner stone player in good health entering the prime years of what show be his carrer and in good heath. you only move those kind of pieces if you are getting so much from the other team that you lend them a barrell to walk home in.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
HAVE YOU SEEN THE LITTLE FUCKING MERMAID/?!??!?!
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
Is it permissible to rearrange that?
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 5, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes plz
Even though I love Cain
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
You know what I just realized?
Whiteside caught more innings than Posey did today.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
This is what Bochy meant when he said that Whiteside would be catching most of the time.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 4, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
/link to exultational thread in which McC rejoices that Bengie is gone and Posey will play at C
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 4, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
To be fair, if Molina was still on the team, he would have started, and then Whiteside would have still been the pinch-runner, and Posey might have pinch hit for the pitcher in the ninth or tenth or something wasteful like that.
So he did play more than he would have. But still. And then Whiteside gets the start tomorrow. Sigh.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
I thought the same thing around the 14th inning. I turned to my dad and went, “You realize that in another inning Whiteside whill have caught more innings than Posey, right?”
His response? “I fucking hate Bruce Bochy.”
FREE BUSTER POSEY
Your dad should not curse in front of you
/calls social services
Buster Posey: "I'm a catcher." Brian Sabean: "I'm an idiot."
by rxmeister on Jul 5, 2010 6:23 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm late to the party but
WHAT THE FUCK BOCHY??!!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
He's an all star manager, don't second guess him.
After all the 32 year old whiteside is a faster runner than the 23 year old buster posey. Where is this fact from? “Just a hunch” bork bork bork.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I can't go to sleep right now because I'm trying to rack my brain to think of one way Bochy could be right about that.
But seriously, a not-skinny dude with grey hair who’s almost a decade older is faster than a young guy who’s only a few years removed from shortstop and looks athletic? Seriously?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Murph was ripping bochy on twitter during the game
When the morning show brothers are saying boch is having a horrible season, there’s an issue.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Hey remember that big billboard outside Oakland Coliseum begging Davis to leave?
How many dollars per McCoven would it take to do a Bochy version outside of AT&T?
6/30/10- The Beginning of a New Era
by Bballpitcher2 on Jul 5, 2010 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I really think it won't be necessary
Even upper management will realize what an epic blunder that was to sub out posey. I think Bochy is gone by the end of the month. After seeing them get rid of Bengie, I have some belief that the big guys will have some balls to make a move.
I trust you
if he’s not gone by August I blame you.
6/30/10- The Beginning of a New Era
by Bballpitcher2 on Jul 5, 2010 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Don’t hold your breath on that one. I don’t expect anything to happen until the off season.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
if they get back on the winning track, this move will be forgotten and he’ll stick around, but for now, I just can’t watch anymore.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 5, 2010 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions
We need to do what the Rockies did with Jim Tracy
This team is actually good and needs a shot in the arm, and Bochy is the last person on earth who I think is capable of doing that.
Yeah, they need Jose Canseco for that shot in the arm right now.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I am seriously down
Posey + Steroids – Bochy = World Series
Wait
Posey wasn’t hurt? He was removed for Whiteside and not because he was hurt?
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
That is a correct statement
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Wow
Glad I went drinking instead of watching that abortion.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
BORK FTL
Bochy said this:
“And really, it’s going to come down to getting more timely hits. That’s what we’re missing more than anything.”
Does he know why they’re missing it? Perhaps it is because BUSTER FUCKING POSEY IS MORE LIKELY TO GET TIMELY HITS THAN A CAREER MINOR LEAGUE JOURNEYMAN BACKUP CATCHER FUCKING WHO CAN’T HIT SHIT, YOU FUCKING BIG-HEADED NO-BRAIN MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
time for this piece of shit to go.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 5, 2010 12:15 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
They clearly need more RBI guys.
.277/.399/.518 out of a shortstop?!
Keep on, keepin' on, Ryan Cavan
the money lies....
fuck it.
Cain 4 Fielder!!
6/30/10- The Beginning of a New Era
by Bballpitcher2 on Jul 5, 2010 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Does anyone else thinks its weird that there were 3 inside the park homeruns today? Thats unheard of.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 5, 2010 12:19 AM PDT reply actions
Colorado is a house of horrors
Fuck that park and it’s fucking fans.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Well only 1 of them was in Colorado, but yes, I agree.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 5, 2010 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions
We accept you.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 5, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions
i thought that was rather odd.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 5, 2010 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions
so are we all staying up for return of the jedi?
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
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by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 5, 2010 12:24 AM PDT reply actions
The marathon just ended for me.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 5, 2010 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions
are you nicknamed "The Force"?
I wonder what it feels like to work in a real police department...
Denver.SBNation.com
Wait, were we doing a Star Wars live blog again?
Then again, today’s holiday gave most people an excuse to drown their sorrows, so I guess it wasn’t needed.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
I honestly don’t think I’ve seen the non-CGI’d Star Wars. I mean, every time I watch Return of the Jedi on TV or on DVD, I always see Hayden freaking Christensen as a ghost.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
Probably been posted but
The Giants aren’t expected to make a splash on the international free agent market, writes Andrew Baggarly of the San Jose Mercury News.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 5, 2010 12:27 AM PDT reply actions
my OOTP scout
found a player in Gabon. Maybe Brain should go there to look.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I love it when great players show up in OOTP from random countries. I had some stars in my leagues from Italy, a couple from some African countries (I think a couple South Africans, but also someone from Kenya who was pretty good) and I had a pretty good reliever from Indonesia who lasted for a few good years.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I like the feature
but don’t like all the weird settings in the nations file. Way too many from oddball countries and not enough from the Caribbean. Some of those countries will flat-out never produce an MLB player, but maybe it makes more sense if they’re assumed to be immigrants to the US or US-born like Juan Pierre.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Really? The majority of my players who are worthwhile are from either the US, Japan or the Caribbean. I’ll only get like 2-3 decent players at most from oddball countries.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
weird
I know you’ve simmed a lot more seasons than me, but it seemed like every other dude was from Russia or Nigeria or whatnot. I think there’s way too many American-born latin players too. But somehow they’ve really avoided the “Carlos O’Houlihan, 6’11” 150# african american SS" problem that High Heat and so many other games seem to have had.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
:-(
:-(
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Anybody ever eat that Trader Joe’s quiche? Its good.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 5, 2010 12:41 AM PDT reply actions
Roger?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
no
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 5, 2010 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions
And you ate 12 of them?
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Only 2
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 5, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
From Bagg's postgame notes
When I don’t understand a manager’s move, I don’t necessarily assume he’s right. But I’ll wonder if I’m missing some vital piece of information. For example, when Posey sat last week, turns out, it was because they wanted to showcase Bengie Molina for a trade.
So what was happening here? Was Posey hurt? Nope, we checked. Bochy insisted Posey was fine.
So maybe there just isn’t that much to figure out here. Quite simply, many folks will feel that Bochy cost the Giants this game, and they’ll have a case
Maybe they want to showcase Whiteside?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 5, 2010 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Unfortunately, the best way to showcase Whiteside is by sitting on his earlier fluke numbers and not exposing him for what he actually is. Oppsie.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh man, I’ve never typo’d “oops” like that before.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL "showcase Molina"
it’s pretty clear Texas hasn’t seen him play since 2002.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Nor have the announcers that do rangers TV and radio, my god it’s as if he’s yadier molina.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
BTW
Bengie is outhitting Yadier so far this season. Bengie .256/.312/.327 Yadier .229/.309/.302
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
LOL And Yadier Is The Starting NL Allstar Catcher
by giantsrainman on Jul 5, 2010 3:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Jose is now the best Molina. They threw three Yankees out at the plate today because Jose blocked them off. If Bengie did that in Texas, the announcers would drown in their own ejaculate.
Buster Posey: "I'm a catcher." Brian Sabean: "I'm an idiot."
by rxmeister on Jul 5, 2010 6:30 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL and Yadier can play defense
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 6:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Haha, its nice to see this.
Kobe's a jerk and overrated.
"Frankly your desire to be a seller is just proof of how blinded you are by your hatred of Sabean"-giantsrainman..LOL
"We didn't win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad,"-KNBR caller.
by GovernorStephCurry on Jul 5, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I love buster
atience Index
These hitters saw the most pitches per plate appearance Saturday.
Hitter Pitches PA P/PA
Buster Posey 28 4 7.0
Ian Kinsler 27 4 6.8
Nick Hundley 20 3 6.7
Chris Young 19 3 6.3
Elvis Andrus 25 4 6.3
Marco Scutaro 31 5 6.2
David Wright 30 5 6.0
Chris Snyder 24 4 6.0
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I've read buster onleys daily postings for a long time
And besides nate a few times a year, I’ve never seen a giant on that list.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
:D
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 5, 2010 1:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Happy Birthday, secret Mod man.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Which secret Mod man?
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 5, 2010 1:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Because in Bochy's mind
Whiteside is a better hitter, has more experience catching therefore Whiteside is superior to Posey.
Don’t forget that he’s also much faster so he has a lot better of a chance of scoring on a ball in the gab than posey would.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Whiteside speed + base running abilities > poseys apparently
I guess he wanted to punish posey for getting a 2 out opposite field single to put runners on 1st and 3rd by pinch running for him.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
BORK
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 5, 2010 1:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of bruce bochy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_World_Series
bork bork
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
it turned out to be a bad move by Padres manager Bruce Bochy
There was some criticism of Padres manager Bruce Bochy for using John Vander Wal as a pinch runner, leaving the responsibility of facing Rivera for the final at bat to Andy Sheets. Sheets struck out to end the game
Some things never change.
n the eighth, the call was made to Trevor Hoffman after Randy Myers walked Paul O’Neill to open the inning. Hoffman then walked Tino Martinez before Scott Brosius tagged a three-run blast over the fence in dead center.
And then shutout in game 4, LOL BORK.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
The baserunning thing makes me laugh, and then cry.
I remember when we were in NY and I thought “as bad as Bochy is, I’m glad we don’t have Jerry Manuel.”
I want Jerry Manuel.
I would take anyone at this point, jerry manuel would be a massive upgrade.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Bruce Bochy is a former National League Manager of the Year. Jerry Manuel is not. QED.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
also, you know what's bizarre?
This is Bochy’s sixteenth consecutive season as a Major League manger. Sixteen years of being employed for a job he’s hilariously bad at. He’s never even been fired in that period!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
also also, wikipedia made me laugh
He won over 900 games as manager of the Padres – the most in team history – despite often being saddled with low-budget squads.
Of course, his Padres teams also lost 975 games.
And gee, I wonder why he has more wins as a manger than any other manager in team history? Could it be, maybe – just maybe – because he held the job for twelve years, and nobody else has ever managed the Padres for more than four years? And that, if you manage a team for four years, even if they go 162-0 every season, that still puts you some 300 wins short of the number of wins the Padres got in Bochy’s sub-.500 twelve-year tenure? GOLLY GEE I WONDER!?
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
/totally just edited that passage:
However, in his tenure the team also lost 975 games and posted a sub-.500 record, and his mark as the winningest manager in franchise history reflects his twelve year tenure with the team; in franchise history, no one else has managed the team for more than four seasons, making it mathematically impossible for them to reach Bochy’s 900+ wins.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
by jcb9 on Jul 5, 2010 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
kind of a technicality
SD let him finish his contract but that was pretty much GTFO.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe I’m wrong, but my recollection is that he was still under contract with San Diego, but they were like, “Fuck it, you can have him.”
He had been buddy-buddy with Kevin Towers for years, so his job was always safe (sound familiar?). But then they fell out with the whole Vinny Castilla thing.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
yes I think you're right
still about as close as you can come to getting canned without being able to draw unemployment.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
So, we might not be winning the World Series this year.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
Last time i checked the score was the 8th inning when we tied it up
I knew what was coming and did not want my 4th spoiled by this piece of shit team.
Please fire bruce bochy. I’d take dusty baker and felipe alou a MILLION times over this fucking swedish chef. And that’s really saying something
Missed the game
Poor tactical managing aside, pinch-running Whiteside for Posey seems like a not-so-thinly veiled FU to the front office, “no one tells ME which catcher to play.” It sure sounds like there are some, shall we say, issues that have cropped up this week between Bochy and Sabean. History repeats itself. This is Bork vs. Kevin Towers all over again.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
agreed
Sophomoric, but at least spite is a reason.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions
At some point
Brian Sabean has to realize that the biggest threat to his job is Bochy’s incompetent squandering of the talent that Sabean has somehow managed to assemble.
That is when Bochy will go.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Matt Cain knows he doesn't know how to win
Instead, Cain said it’s time for the pitchers to step up.
"We’ve got to get the pitching back on track," he said. "I’ve been a large part of that, walking guys with two outs or giving up home runs. We’ve gotta close down innings. We’ve got to get back to being relaxed and confident out there. We’ve got to get that feeling back up."
Matt Cain would never point a finger at anyone else
I think that is just the type of guy he is. For someone so young, he really does have his stuff together.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 5, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s always been that way. I also think he realizes that he can’t control what anyone else does, but can work on his own weaknesses. I wish more people were like him.
by kdl on Jul 5, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL BENGIE
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
He works on his weakness all the time
Twinkie anyone?
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Jul 5, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
if only he knew how to win…
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 5, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m fine with the pitchers saying things like that.
It’s when Sabean says things like that that I want to blow something up.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree. Funny how that works.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 5, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I think I'm rooting for the complete collapse of the team
Otherwise nothing will ever change.
LOL UMPS
http://arizona.diamondbacks.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=9638483
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
Enraged McCoven is enraged.
The vitriol of the posts immediately following the game, and the number of misspellings and grammatical mistakes leads me to believe nobody was very happy with the outcome of that game.
Lexapro for everyone. And a quadruple dose for botchy.
Even Haft gets it:
You’re disturbed because Whiteside went 0-for-3 with two strikeouts, including a 13th-inning whiff with Aubrey Huff on third base and one out and a popup to end the 15th with Huff on second base. You’re annoyed because Whiteside was charged with a throwing error in the 14th that put Seth Smith on third base with nobody out (though Guillermo Mota, the eventual losing pitcher, admirably escaped that jam). You’re confounded because you’re wondering whether Whiteside really is that much faster than Posey.
From my vantage point, he isn’t.But I will never pretend to know half as much about baseball as Bochy or any of his coaches.[Editorial comment: LOL U!] At the same time, y’all are UPSET. It just adds to the rising tide of discontent surrounding the Giants that probably won’t ebb right away, unless they go on a nice little 12-game winning streak.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Lineup
Torres cf
F. Sanchez 2b
Huff rf
Burrell lf
Sandoval 3b
Uribe ss
Posey c
Ishikawa 1b
Sanchez p
They could be Giants...but not really.
Best one all year
Posey catching, no Rowand, no Renteria.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
That said
I still think I’d prefer Nate over Ishi, but that’s a minor quibble when there’s no Rent or Row.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
concur
bouncing Huff between LF, RF, and 1B would seem to give a few guys a chance to play and doesn’t seem to bother Huff in the slightest.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Days until Bochy tries Huff at catcher....
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
0
if Whitey pinchruns and pulls a hamstring stealing 3B.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Posey catching Sanchez??
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Three starts in a row for Ishi?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
It makes sense, really
Whiteside didn’t prevent Sanchez from getting shelled his last time out.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Also Whiteside caught like 8 innings yesterday.
And he had to run the bases and he ALMOST was asked to steal a base!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
this excellent idea
keeps designated pinchrunner Whiteside available for a clutch late-inning appearance.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Completely agree
We better win this game though, or we’ll never see it again.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
I'd rather have
Burrell – Torres – Schierholtz with Huff at 1B
Nate’s range lets Andres cheat a bit towards left and compensate for Burrell’s poor D.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Oh, definitely. I was just thinking in terms of today’s lineup since apparently Ishi has bought himself some playing time at 1B.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Gotcha
Your hierarchy is Nate > Ishi > Burrell?
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Probably. Nate is more of a known commodity than the other two. I haven’t bought into Burrell being am entirely different player than what he was in TB.
They could be Giants...but not really.
At this point I kinda have I guess
AL east pitching is the best in the bigs, really. Not hard to see why he’d play a bit better here. There might even be something to the whole DHing-is-different argument.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
I’m a skeptic until proven otherwise but I hope you’re right.
Also, Nate > Burrell > Ishi (especially in a bandbox like Miller Park)
They could be Giants...but not really.
This is my hierarchy, I think
Though ideally, Burrell and Nate could be in the lineup at the same time.
My ideal:
Torres CF
Sanchez 2B
Huff 1B
Uribe SS
Posey C
Sandoval 3B
Burrell LF
Schierholtz RF
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Baggs comments
Biggest news: Bruce Bochy might be making amends for yesterday’s questionable decision to pinch-run Eli Whiteside for Buster Posey.
Whiteside, heretofore Jonathan Sanchez’s personal catcher, sits today. It’s Posey time. Perhaps management is finally realizing that you don’t jerk around your best position prospect in two decades.
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/extrabaggs/2010/07/05/mondays-giants-lineup-posey-catches-sanchez/
He’s getting fiesty, Baggs.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Me thinks Baggs was worried about being Wally Pip'ed
Pavlovic had no problem calling the Giants out when he subbed. Baggs is back and is suddenly questioning management every day. (As he should have been all season)
Maybe.
Maybe it is he wanted to give to collection a good couple months to show themselves. I mean i have been very skeptical about what this 2010 team will bring from the get go yet if we go back 12 games ago and even I knew if they didn’t screw the pooch vs Red Sox, Bums & Rox they might just make something positive this September. And Even I never excepted a 2-8 or 3- 7 showing there.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
I can't really complain about Posey catching, ever
but WTF is the point of a personal caddy? I thought that was pretty much Whitey’s only real value. If he’s not doing that maybe he needs to GTFO.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, a team does need a backup catcher. But not one used as often as Whiteside is.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
the llamas are watching
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
My guess is that this came from the front office. I don’t see Bochy deciding on his own to have Posey catch Sanchez.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 5, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
definitely tired from all the stolen bases and scoring on gappers
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 5, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
and waving that heavy bat at all those pitches
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Why can’t Posey bat higher up the lineup?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 5, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Stop looking a gift lineup in the mouth.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
It’s just pretty syupid. Yes, I am pleased with the lineup, but the P spot is two spots behind Posey’s. I thought the point was to score the guys who get on base.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 5, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
*stupid
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 5, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Deck chairs!
Torres cf
Posey c
Sandoval 3b
Huff 1B
Burrell lf
Uribe ss
F. Sanchez 2b
Schierholtz RF
Sanchez p
Rationale: Freddy Sanchez is a good player, but I think Posey’s a better hitter, and will get on base more.
Huff is the best hitter with power on the team, so he should bat 4th. Arranging the middle is tough, because who you think is the better hitter depends entirely upon what you think about who Pablo Sandoval really is.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
Posey is batting seventh as punishment for not coming up big late in yesterday’s game.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Bochy deproblematized the lineup!
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 5, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Nah
Sabes did that a few months back, he’s in Toronto now.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
ha ha
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 5, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, I've said it before... but:
When the losses pile up it’s Bye-Bye Botchy
If the magic’s more like bad luck, say Bye-Bye Botchy
Torture’s in the making at Willie Mays Park
You bring the torches, I’ll light the spark
If you’re tired of veteran love fests, sing Bye-Bye Botchy!
If the lineup just makes no sense, yell Bye-Bye Botchy!
Listen to the broadcast on KNBR
Cringe at the double plays and crash your car
After yesterday’s fiasco, yell BYE BYE BOTCHY!!!!!
nice
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 5, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
The Giants don’t fire managers.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
OT: ah, academia
Where you get to read sentences like:
Ideology is here foregrounded and problematized in a way that situates rhetoric within ideology, rather than ideology within rhetoric.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
problematized
BINGO!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 5, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s a very popular made-up academic word.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
I crush these people when they attempt to bring this crap into one of my meetings. I can be particularly brutal.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 5, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
ooh, scary
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 5, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't you have some gardening to do?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 5, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
brutal…wut?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 5, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
But my favorite hobby is problemating!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
You problemated the fuck out of that ideology last weekend!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 5, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
PASSIVE SENTENCE!
That’s a no-no in academia (at least that’s what they say)
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Eschew Obfuscationatory Phraseology!
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
No.
Sincerely,
Kent Hrbek
Mike Krzyzewski
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 5, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
For my other class, we recently read an article arguing against the use of jargon and unnecessarily confusing language. And then the author used the word “prolix.”
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
The author prolly did that just to prove the point.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
The usage seemed pretty unselfconscious to me.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
It’s not a bad word or anything, but it’s a word that a lot of people aren’t going to understand, and the meaning can be easily expressed in simpler terms. In an article where the entire premise is that academic writers should stop using jargon and, as they say, “big words” in the interest of clarity and inclusiveness, its usage amuses me.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
Although “prolix” does remind me of Neelix, and that’s certainly a bad thing.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
I’m sorry.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
First and foremost, I’m writing about rural communities. In rural communities there is a division of labor. Women are in the house doing household things, generally. Men are outside doing the interesting things, generally.
Yeesh.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 5, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
For some reason, my first thought was that he was playing a steel drum.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Plus, how am I going to properly care for my Glock without it?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 5, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
shouldn’t prolix be a much longer word?
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 5, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
So what you’re saying is that the word “lisp” has an S in it???
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
One must concur
The reification of the natural opens a space for the systemization of power/knowledge.
They could be Giants...but not really.
well, duh.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 5, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh good.
The highlights of last nights game are about to be show on sportscenter. This should be fun
how is ...
every time i check the score, the pads are winning in some weaselly fashion , Eckstein’d
and they are playing fucking terrible terrible teams!
Hey
When did we get that Giants approval poll on the front page?
Fuck that shit.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
It’s not a very good poll. I voted without realizing it.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably as much as any player not named Hanley
I ain't havin' it
by NuschlerFace on Jul 5, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
The Brewers announced the last 2 starters for this series. The matchups are:
RHP Dave Bush (3-6, 4.43) vs. LHP Jonathan Sanchez (6-6, 3.26)
LHP Randy Wolf (6-7, 4.70) vs. LHP Madison Bumgarner (0-2, 4.50)
LHP Chris Narveson (7-5, 5.29) vs. RHP Tim Lincecum (8-4, 3.28)
LHP Manny Parra (3-5, 4.45) vs. LHP Barry Zito (7-4, 3.75)
That’s a lotta lefties.
Giants – .265/.338/.398
Brewers – .260/.338/.446
They could be Giants...but not really.
BOLD PREDICTION: the Giants will find a way to lose the Lincecum vs. Narveson game. You know they will.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
Something about suffering the consequences from the stiffed valet's posse?
Much as I hate Google for making people’s brains work less I’m conflicted by my love of the mechanical advantage.
“From a thing’s possibility one cannot be certain of its reality.”
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 5, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
so
Baseball-reference’s facebook page posted a poll about whether or not Jack Morris should be a Hall of Famer.
This one guy said that Morris was the best pitcher of the 80s. This is just….I mean…geez. I don’t even.
I mean, if you go by ERA+, Morris’s best year in the 80s was 1986, with 127. Roger Clemens had five years in the 80s better than that. Orel Hershiser had five. Dwight Gooden had two, and a third year that was basically identical.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
But Jack Morris had the most WINZ in the 80s, so I guess that’s all that counts.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
He had one really awesome all-time great World Series start. Overall, he was unexceptional in the postseason.
It’s funny, because Morris always gets credit for being a “money” postseason pitcher, and Bert Blyleven always gets dinged for not being enough of a BIG MONEY WINNER!!!, but Blyleven has the better postseason won-loss record (5-1 vs. 7-4) and the better postseason ERA (2.47 vs. 3.80).
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
And yeah, in the 1991 World Series, he as 2-0 with a 1.17 ERA in 3 starts and 23 innings.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
That was an incredible World Series in general. Definitely one of the best in my lifetime.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
plus three.
Jesus, I’d love to see that all again for the first time with the outcome in question.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 5, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
wow
great source. Did you see the Bobby Bonilla thing where the Mets have to pay him $1.19M for the next 25 years:
SAN JUAN, P.R.—One year from today, the Mets will add to their payroll a 47-year-old, past-his-prime power hitter who has a reputation as a malcontent—a player who has been retired from professional baseball for nine years and won’t play another game again.
Nevertheless, starting on July 1, 2011, Bobby Bonilla will remain on the franchise’s payroll for 25 years, collecting an annual salary of $1,193,248.20. Those are the terms the Mets agreed to Jan. 3, 2000, when they bought out the final year of Mr. Bonilla’s contract.
“That beautiful thing,” he said here Monday.
Yeah. No shit. and LOL Steve Phillips.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 5, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s pretty amazing, the run of terrible GMs the Mets have put together. Minaya may be the best GM they’ve had in the last 15 years!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
so there are far worse GMs than Sabes
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 5, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Reminds me of the Matt Holliday contract
I think I remember reading that he’s going to get paid by the Cards for like 20 years.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
LOL Bochy
I just noticed this on Facebook:
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
by jcb9 on Jul 5, 2010 11:28 AM PDT reply actions 5 recs
green plz
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Even considering the pointless stupidity of these sort of things, I am sorely tempted to go like that page.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 5, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Bochy’s idiocy aside, was anyone else annoyed by that dumbass fucking Dinger crouching behind home plate openly trying to distract the visiting pitchers? Am I the only one that considers that to be, if not actually attempting to interfere with the game, at the very least an embarrassingly bush league thing for an employee of a Major League team to be doing?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 5, 2010 11:38 AM PDT reply actions
A lot of people on here definitely think it’s single-A bullshit.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't like it
but I like the idea of an unregulated refrigerated aquarium for storing baseballs a lot less.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
those aren't horns, they're telescopes!
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
That may be the more egregious cheat, but I don’t have the humidor waving it’s arms and calling attention to itself with every batter.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 5, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been watching that fucker since last year.
He seems to appear behind the backstop in the late innings – wiggling his stomach, etc. at the opposing pitcher then crouching down behind the backstop so just his eyes, horns and “ruff” are exposed as the pitcher is starting his movement.
I’m sure this has been addressed and he’s working close to some written restriction – but yeah, said restriction is definitely giving him too much leeway as far as overt movement in the pitcher’s immediate field of view.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 5, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
ishikawa starting 3 games in a row?
i guess Milwaukee is going to need a 1st baseman after we get prince
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by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 5, 2010 11:38 AM PDT reply actions
I think I'd rather see
an over 30 go to make room for Ishi and his excellent defense in the lineup. Huffnstuff for Braun! And Gallardo. Why not.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 5, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Buster Olney
Heard this:The Brewers are on the fence about being buyers or sellers and started having scout meetings last week — which will continue.
So we need to go to Milwaukee, sweep the Brewers, and come away with Prince Fielder.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
FIELDER FOR MARTINEZ!!!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
YEA JOEY!
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 5, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
The Padres don’t really need moar pitching, do they?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I know we are leading the division and all...
But here, please take our best player. We really don’t want this division. You take it!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 5, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
aight, i see ur point
I think Latos and Clayton are legit, their bullpen are awesome. I think they are overachieving and Dodgers will overtake them. you can never have enough pitching . Cain is a stud, i am not saying this will happen at any means. but it makes some sense.
It makes sense for us – or for any team in the league – to want Adrian Gonzalez.
It doesn’t make sense that the Padres would trade him within the division for a lesser player in an area where they have no need – no matter how many filler players are added to the trade.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
So . . .
do we get a game day thread? Is Grant drunk again?
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 5, 2010 12:29 PM PDT reply actions
I’m pretty sure the GDT are automated. I’ll go check it out.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I didn’t see one scheduled, but I was giving it a little longer to see what happened.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, the games are all up but there are no GDT ready to just be opened.
I think I’ll go ahead and try to make one?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
WHAT DOES GRANT PAY YOU FOR??!!!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Might as well. Grant might give you the Awww That’s a Good Mod .gif.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
it's a holiday
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Sunday carryover.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 5, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently a lot of people are observing it today
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
NO WORK ON MONDAY!
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 5, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
i don’t have school therefore it is a holiday
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
/waits for someone much older than you to recognize that lyric
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
Celebra-ate!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 5, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
i like pavement better
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
That’s acceptable.
I had to explain who Pavement was to some of my twentysomething coworkers the other day. That was awkward and painful.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
bonus rush reference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnrM4UjaQmY&feature=related
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I went to their show in Berkeley the other day and when people in my program asked me who I was seeing, only like two people had ever heard of them. :\
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
That show was the exact reason why I was explaining Pavement to my coworkers.
Them:“There’s no good concerts right now.”
Me: “Pavement is playing.”
Them: “WTFLOLOLD!”
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
Have them move to Tallahassee if they think there are no good concerts.
There’s been one worthwhile show since I got here (Of Montreal), and I missed that due to scheduling. :(
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. 0.00 ERA in Salem-Keizer...as a 24-year old.
my attempt at making a GDT
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/7/5/1553470/open-gamethread-7-5
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Way to go! I’m sure with practice you’ll be making Gameday threads like a pro in notime!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 5, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
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