Friday 7/30 Trade Deadline thread (AKA you probably don't need to start a new Fanpost thread)
by Goofus on Jul 30, 2010 7:12 AM PDT
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Once again, let's try to keep our thoughts, opinions and the rumors we're hearing in one place as opposed to creating a new Fanpost.
Bonus fun fact: The 2010 Giants have a team OBP of 327...which is above league average!!! (Who would have made that bet?) Last year they finished at 309.
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Since folks might glaze over a “Thursday” thread, I thought I’d point out that it is Friday, 7/30. TGIMFF!
(Feel free to use your modly powers to delete this comment.)
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
What does F12 do?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
On my macbook it pops open my uh “dashboard?” where I have a calendar and whatnot…
here’s an example of calendar whatnot
http://blog.pixelbreaker.com/polarclock
Are their more new & improved Johnson jokes inside?
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
The Rays are thinking of sending either James Shields or Wade Davis for Dunn. Let’s hope we don’t try to be a one-upper.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
by oldjacket on Jul 30, 2010 8:30 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Let’s hope we don’t try to be a one-upper.
You can say that again…and again.
Adopted Son:Matt Downs MLB , Now with More STATZ goodness !Matt Downs Fangraphs The Juan Uribe of 2011 !
The Rays are thinking of sending either James Shields or Wade Davis for Dunn. Let’s hope we don’t try to be a one-upper.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
by oldjacket on Jul 30, 2010 8:31 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
they have Hellickson to come into the rotation, so they wouldn’t have to make an extra trade to plug the hole in the rotation.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
and they can DH Dunn.
Fine for them, but paying more would be stupid for us.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
definitely. if we could deal Sanchez and had a stud on the farm to take his spot, we’d have more flexibility. unfortunately, our starting pitching depth is all at the major league level and the what few starter prospects we do have are at A+ and lower.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Those look like good trades for both teams
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 30, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know much about Wade Davis, but trading Shields for a half-season of Adam Dunn would be egregious baseball malpractice.
Davis hasn’t pitched very well this year but I was under the impression he was a pretty good prospect
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to do that (TM)
#3 In the Rays system to start the year
- in the minors according to Will Lingo of BA
- according to John Manuel
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Damn SBN auto format
27 according to Lingo
21 according to Manuel
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Jose Guillen
Is a douche-bag. No further explanation is required from anyone else. Anyone who thinks trading for Guillen is a good idea should visit 22Gigantes site to discuss.
Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand
If we post fake rumors, will they happen?
I could post my Burriss, Velez and Denny Bautista for Sean Marshall fantasy again
/Aaron Rowand for Ryan Braun
Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand
by Giant Torture on Jul 30, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Aaron Rowand for 25 pairs of orange cleats
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
That's 12.5 pairs of orange cleats...
…and 12.5 pairs of black cleats, per league rules.
My son is Madison Bumgarner, the Invisible Shark of pitching prospects. My other son is a Porsche.
Aaron Rowand for John Bowker.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
It’s so perfect, the team will never do it.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 30, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Best trade the Giants could make.
Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand
by Giant Torture on Jul 30, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't know if Fresno will go for it though...
what’s in it for them…
BTW: I am not really on the Bowker band wagon…seems like a JR Phillips to me…
Mornin Gays! The sun came up again, and I STILL want Adam Dunn.
This morning’s thought, what would it take to get Paul Maholm, and should we? If we were to add Maholm, Marshall, and Dunn, we WOULD go to the ‘Series’!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
I AM PAT BURRELLZ'Z DADDY! (wait, that doesn't sound right)
by bigboneded on Jul 30, 2010 9:03 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
we WOULD go to the ‘Series’!
The goal isn’t to go to the World Series, the goal is to make the playoffs. Everything after that is a crapshoot.
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
“Series” is a wierd word.
I mean, why is it always plural when there’s just one series?
What is the singular form of “series”?
Proud parent of Bengie Molina: Buster who?
by The Enchanter on Jul 30, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Berkman >>> Dunn
If all things equal…(of course Bowker >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Berkman and Dunn combined)
Giants seriously need another bullpen arm.
From MLBTR
The three-way deal that would send Dunn to the White Sox, Edwin Jackson to the Nationals, and Dan Hudson and a prospect to the Diamondbacks is still in play, reports Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. Rosenthal has heard varying opinions about whether the Yankees are truly out on Dunn.
He’s shiny. Shows great potential, but usually lands on his ass. Folks seem to think that just one small tweak will make him fantastic.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Jul 30, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
No-hitter!
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Apparently...Nationals did not read this article
149 pitches, eight walks
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/edwin-jackson-no-hitter-statistically-absurd-062510
That no-hitter was absurd. He should at least say he was on acid when he pitched it.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Knows Dock Ellis and agrees with "Pitching Under The Influence"....
Dude was still playing ball and pitching until last year.
Adopted Son:Matt Downs MLB , Now with More STATZ goodness !Matt Downs Fangraphs The Juan Uribe of 2011 !
Update:
#Giants have asked #Orioles about LHR Will Ohman, but a deal doesn’t seem likely, source says. #SF #BAL #MLB
Jon Morosi twitter
Douchebags at ESPN
Just misquoted Baggs as saying the Giants had discussed Fuentes with the Angels, when his article clearly and emphatically stated that he had not heard that, but was just an idea.
Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand
ESPN was too busy wondering who the Giants are.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Eli Manning’s team!
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 30, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Why would a football team want a baseball player?!
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of LH relievers
Nate Robertson, formerly a serviceable pitcher with the Tigers, has been released by the Marlins. Now I’m not advocating signing Robertson as a starter, but he could be a very cheap lefty reliever option. Downs is obviously the magic lefty prize, but the price is apparently too high.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 30, 2010 9:36 AM PDT reply actions
What is it Toronto has been trying to get for Downs? I like him, but he is only a reliever.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
pony and rocket ship
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 30, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
You’d trade Bubbles?!?!?
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think Bubbles is a monkey, but I couldn’t come up with a better pony name on the fly.
In college, I dated a girl (also in college) who liked watching My Little Pony. It did not work out well.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
In law school (and after), I dated a girl who loved My Little Pony. Now my girlfriend loves bourbon. It was a good trade.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 30, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I have some of those somewhere. About 5 years ago I had a little girl in my class with some pretty severe developmental delays, the only thing she liked: horses. So we taught her colors and counting and whatnot with the my little ponies. Well, okay and also used them to bribe her into behaving…
They’re upstairs somewhere in my teaching closet, along with the troll dolls some other kid had a fixation with.
That’s good teaching!
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 30, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Recently, I dated a girl that loved My Little Pony. Now I’m single. It was a good trade.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
I hope we aren’t all talking about the same girl.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I sort of hope we are
It would make for great conversation at the next meetup.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
Ha! That’s a good point.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Glad that I did not date a girl who liked My Little Ponies...
I don’t want to know you guys that well
What the hell is My Little Pony. I haven’t heard of it, and I’m pretty confident my girlfriend hasn’t, either…
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP_rIAkb_v8
Enjoy!
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Weird, seems like I should have heard of it then, considering I was a little kid in the 80s….
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I take it that you had no sisters.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
My sisters younger, so maybe she was born too late for it?
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
late 20’s would be about the right age for My Little Ponies.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
Wow I don’t like the new GIS
I was going to look for a picture of the little plastic toy ponies but that shit’s too annoying.
Really? What do you not like? You can scan through a lot more images and much quicker.
"Bengie Molina - the quintessential double play possibility." - Jon MIller
by calpolynate on Jul 30, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Buster Posey Is My Little Pwnee
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
And tell him to bring his chainsaw!
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by Giantsfan4life on Jul 30, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Robertson's definitely worth a minor league deal
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by Giantsfan4life on Jul 30, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Dealing for relief pitchers is usually painful. Every year the bad teams realize that the good teams need bullpen help, so they put high price tags- usually in prospects- on their relievers.
You really need to get creative and find a relative unknown on the market.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
Latest update from ESPN's trade chat
[Comment From jmontanez90 ]
any action in the giants front office?
12:30
Chris Sprow | ESPN The Mag | R.C. Editor: New copy machine. Aside from that, surprised that it seems like focus is far more on bullpen help, less on offense. Put me in the camp that would like them to get a bat, but I also don’t get upset like folks have here when they don’t get a guy like Cantu, with his .308 OBP. The deadline tends to make any guy with 10 HRs look like “a bat”. Well, look how he got that still moderate total. 75Ks vs 23 BBs is one idea. Several reports that they’ve called on the likes of Will Ohman. Yeah … exciting.
12:30
Doug Mittler: A Mercury News report says the Giants make take a look at Brian Fuentes if the Angels decide to become sellers. He would be a nice set-up to Brian Wilson.
12:31
Chris Sprow | ESPN The Mag | R.C. Editor: Will say, maybe they’re being covert on a bat. Remember earlier this week the Brewers were openly saying they’d wait til today to decide if they’d sell on guys like Hart. But if the price involves Sanchez or Bumgarner, forget it.
the $75k we got for Lewis
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
I hear it collates. Totally worth it.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
That Mercury news report is just Baggs saying what if
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by Giantsfan4life on Jul 30, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Anyone see the rumor that the Rangers offered the Marlins their top 3 prospects for Josh Johnson and that was just to try to get the ball rolling.
Proud Son of Tobias
I did not see that. But Josh Johnson is good. And good contract. And really, what are the Rangers top three prospects at this point?
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
2 top 25 prospects
perez and scheppers are pretty good actually. perez projects to an ace, scheppers was hitting 100 in the futures game. better than what we have down there.
Hmm…nice. Perhaps a bit much for Johnson, but he is a great pitcher.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
For anyone wondering
I hid the “Panda” thread. That sort of speculating and rumor-mongering is totally inappropriate.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
by Goofus on Jul 30, 2010 9:55 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Thanks!
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
BUT WHAT IF I DIDNT COME HERE FOR THE NEWS
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Good on you mate
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by Giantsfan4life on Jul 30, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I missed this – what happened?
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
You missed nothing. Except wild accusations about Pablo and a Simpsons quote a thon attempted hijacking.
Glad I missed it.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Twins trade Ramos and prospect for Matt Capps
I didn’t see this posted anywhere. It’s was a real shock to me, I think the Twins got fleeced, because I have absolutely no faith that Capps can hold up under the pressure of a pennant race and the playoffs. The Twins really sold low on Ramos, it seems to me very likely that his bat would have heated up at some point in the next year – in which case he would have been a very good trade chip. I guess this just goes to show that the market for relievers is way over-priced right now. Bad news for the Giants.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/twins-discussing-matt-capps.html
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I have absolutely no faith that Capps can hold up under the pressure of a pennant race and the playoffs
Why…?
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
and they’ll try to flip him to the Nats for Dunn, who for some reason are in love with Jackson.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
High school flame. Some people just never get over it.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
just for laffs...
check out Sheehan’s should-trades:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/joe_sheehan/07/30/trades.to.make/index.html?eref=sihp
This guy continues to amaze me with obvious lack of accurate perspective. Every one of those deals features paltry prospect packages when compared top what’s already gone down, IMHO.
by sanfranfreakshow on Jul 30, 2010 10:03 AM PDT reply actions
His prospects all seem to suck, but he’s sure they’ll get better. That’s what I look for in a trade.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
potential’s always the target margin, and he obviously focused on buy-low candidates (which are actually harder to obtain). But when Edwin Jackson @ 8mill going forward gets you Hudson plus another good pitching prospect, his valuations are waaaay low.
by sanfranfreakshow on Jul 30, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Slight OT: Because of A. Sanchez's pitching performance yesterday
Wiki says:
Sánchez along with Hanley Ramirez, Jesús Delgado, and Harvey García to the Florida Marlins, in the same transaction that brought Josh Beckett, Guillermo Mota, and Mike Lowel
l
Wow…trying to figure out who got the better deal.
Um....
The Marlins? Beckett is a good pitcher, but he’s probably not THAT much better than Sanchez, and Hanley Ramirez is the second-best player in the game. Ramirez for Beckett straight up would have been a good deal for Florida, but they got Sanchez and dumped Lowell.
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to do that (TM)
The Red Sox got a world series ring out of it. I’d trade our entire team and lose 120 games the next year for a world series team.
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Well, they won a World Series, but we can never know if they would have won a World Series without making that trade. Most teams would trade their entire roster to ensure a World Series victory this year, but one can never know if a team would have won the World Series if they had not made a particular trade.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
that is the whole idea behind trading stars (Win now) for prospects (chance to win later). This is a classic trades where both sides won.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I agree with you. I’m just saying one can never point to a particular trade to say it won a team a world series ring. One can say that trade increased a team’s chances to win the World Series. It’s a nitpicky point on my part.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh, I think you’re underrating Beckett. Mid-3 FIP in the AL East? That’s pretty damn good.
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
12:01pm: The D’Backs announced they’ve traded Jackson to the White Sox for Hudson and pitching prospect David Holmberg.
Isn’t the rumor that they flip Jackson to Washington for Dunn? So Hudson for Dunn basically.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Did you find a rash somewhere?
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m scared that we will be compelled by occult forces to acquire Edwin jackson.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
Not an issue unless you are White Sox fan
Besides teams in the same divisions do not usually trade with each other…
Every team has to trade a good, near ready pitching prospect for Edwin Jackson. There’s some sort of witchcraft compelling them to do so.
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
Most likely he’ll be the youngest gun on the 2012 FA market too. That’s going to bring in a hilarious long-term deal.
by sanfranfreakshow on Jul 30, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll be gentle, Xanthan
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 30, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of which...have you guys seen that M&M Pretzel commercial?
Funny but really really disturbing
(I really just wanted an excuse to post this, howtheyscored style self-whoring!)
Ask me about my blog.
You look like Walter Matthau in this pic.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 30, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd hit it.....gently
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 30, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Hai Gaiz
I’m so tired :(
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
He is the culprit
I stayed up till about 1AM working on the video, then woke up at 6AM to finish it before work. Shouldn’t have done that cause now I’m fucking tired __
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
august claims
if the giants put a claim in on a guy after july 31st, what teams are in position to block it? does LA have the resources to take on a contract just to keep him out of SF? Philly? Cin/StL?
The claim order goes like this :
If an AL player is on waivers :
Team claim order - Worst record in the AL -→ Best record in the AL —> Worst record in the NL —> Best record in the NL
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
so who would be a threat?
but money’s so tight this season that 25 teams can’t take on payroll. outside of the bosox and yanks, who would keep us from claiming bautista, or hart, or fielder, or butler, or willingham, or wiggington?
anybody with a worse record than us.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I give up
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
why would they do that if they’re not competing?
i hear what you’re saying but my question keeps going over your head. i know the rules. would the dodgers or the rox claim a guy to keep us from getting him? do they have the payroll flexibility to be able to do that? the dodgers only have 4 million left to work with, and that’s before they pick up lilly and theriot. if we put a claim on a 5-6 million player, who would bite?
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That bird always scared me...
What are you looking at…what you are looking at…I shoot you right now…
LOL. I never looked at it that closely before. But now that you mention it. . .
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I think your point is that a lot of teams won’t be willing to take on money. Even a team that might claim before the Giants (like the Dodgers and Rockie) might be reluctant to take on payroll. That’s probably true.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I bet you the Phillies and the Mets will take on any of the aforementioned contracts.
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Yeah, they might. Of course, I’m okay with that, as I don’t really want the Giants to trade for any of those players.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
don’t the phillies have 140 million committed to 15 players next season? you want them to take on more money? the cards couldn’t get oswalt done cause they don’t have money.
they’ll still take free players of premium value. The money impact to this season is something philies / mets can absorb easily, and they can always trade those players during the off season (or other players) to dump salary for next year.
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you crazy. how many teams would have jumped up in the offseason to take alex rios off the white sox hands?
because arbitration eligible players and 1-2 year contracts = Alex Rios deal mirite. And Alex Rios did not even get pass waivers IN HIS OWN LEAGUE. Who knows how many teams in the NL would have claimed him.
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These last couple comments have really confused me…
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Fine. You are right. This is easier than explaining.
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rangers offer top three prospects for josh johnson
are told no way in hell.
Remember when people wanted to trade lincecum for the rangers top prospects
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by operation carrot on Jul 30, 2010 11:10 AM PDT reply actions
Man It's so painfully obvious
The Rangers are going to be sold and Daniels / Nolan Ryan are going to be out after this year. They are willing to kill the entire farm system to win this year.
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One of my favorite quotes from the ESPN chat today was a "Ranger" fan
who claimed that the Rangers’ lineup is now as good or better than the Yankees’ lineup…now that they got Cantu!
Yeah, that Cantu really puts them over the top.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Boy did we whiff on that deal!
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by Giantsfan4life on Jul 30, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I will be extremely, extremely happy if Mark Cuban somehow winds up as majority owner….
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Selig ain't havin it
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I’m under the impression it’s going to auction and Selig doesn’t have a say in the matter?
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Sabean is as tight lipped as any baseball exec, and he said on the air with Razor and Mr. T flat out that he does not see that happening.
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Interesting, I mean, I know Selig would do everything possible to stop it (and in my observations, it does seem Selig has a considerable amount of political sway)…..but if it really is just a bankruptcy auction where the highest bid wins, I don’t see how you could rule out the possibility…..
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m under the impression they don’t have that power in this case.
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
And, quizzically, Major League Baseball had a gripe too — even though it “may be premature” to determine if it had, in fact, any objection to the sale, its filing said.
But MLB went on to find fault with proposed sale procedures for not adequately “addressing the requirement” that a successful bidder obtain MLB approval before the franchise is transferred. The risk of seeing its power to approve, or reject, a winner is an immense worry for baseball.
Another problem, it said, is that the proposed procedures don’t explicitly spell out that MLB will be repaid for the millions it has been lending the Rangers since the ballclub filed for voluntary bankruptcy on May 24. Baseball wants its money when the sale is consummated, the filing said.
http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/07/28/2368779/a-rod-adds-his-objection-to-sale.html
Thanks for the link, too much legal stuff for me to really know what’s going on, but it sounds to me like it’s up in the air. I know baseball really wants to maintain its ability to approve the owner, but this is a legal matter, so…..
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope they pry Guillen from the White Sox then. Most entertaining management a team could have.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
You know, despite everyone seeing Cuban as kind of a clown, he’d be the type of owner that would have been on the cutting edge of the saber movement. The guy is motivated, smart, and open to new knowledge, in addition to being the clown we see in public and throwing his cash around without a second thought…
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I heard he’s been getting into the basketball saber-world, although it might be more limited there, so I think you’re right. He’d probably be a good GM, and he’d be damned entertaining.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve read some interviews and such where he talks about his basketball strategy and what he wants to accomplish as an owner, and I was really impressed by his thought process.
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
He’d be a great fan friendly owner too.
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by Giantsfan4life on Jul 30, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah. smoak for lee was nuts if all it took was joe saunders to get dan haren
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by operation carrot on Jul 30, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Saunders was actually the negative value in that trade
The 2 prospects were the real value. Saunders was the “throw in.” I guarantee you he gets non tendered.
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skaggs looks ok but man you have to wonder if the rangers even inquired on haren. although the remaining contract might have been a problem for them
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by operation carrot on Jul 30, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Berkman
yea or nay?
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
If
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Plinko was always one of my favorites.
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by calpolynate on Jul 30, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
If you’re accused of sexual harassment?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 30, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Baron!
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 30, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
:D
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Cubs GM Jim Hendry confirmed to ESPN’s Bruce Levine today that first baseman Derrek Lee wants to play out his contract with the Cubs. Lee has full no-trade rights, and the recent scuttlebutt from Levine’s colleague Jayson Stark on Twitter was that he’d veto any trade.
Levine notes that the Angels proposed a trade to the Cubs for Lee over the past ten days. Lee vetoed the potential, according to MLB.com’s Carrie Muskat (Twitter link). Levine originally reported that the Rangers made a proposal for Lee, but now says Texas never offered a deal.
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Can't answer that without knowing who
we give up. If its either Nate/Bokwer and a couple low level prospects – sure. If its any REAL prospect, then no.
probably cheaper than Dunn, but yea
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
i wish the phillies would have kept lee
just for the chance for our rotation to possibly outdual a lee/halladay/oswalt/hamels rotation
even though they wouldnt have traded for oswalt ahd they kept lee yada yada
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by operation carrot on Jul 30, 2010 11:34 AM PDT reply actions
Latest update from ESPN chat
The giants need to make a move,but they have not why>
2:19
Jason A. Churchill — MLB Draft Blog/Rumor Central: There is no easy button when it comes to making trades, as Buster Olney wrote Thursday on his blog. It takes time, costs money, players, and there has to be a match in so many ways.
SF is still in on relievers, including both of Seattle’s right-handers — Brandon League an David Aardsma — and have shown interest in at least one of Toronto’s trio of trade-available bullpen options in lefty Scott Downs and righties Jason Frasor and Kevin Gregg.
I’m down with some bullpen help. As long as we keep hearing about that and not silly Hart or Guillen rumors, I’m okay with it.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
i wonder if qualls could be had for cheap. i know he has been terrible this year but it would be worth a flyer.
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by operation carrot on Jul 30, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Be nice to get Aardsma back
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by Giantsfan4life on Jul 30, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't mind Frasor
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
*depending on the cost, of course
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
i think the giants should trade eugenio velez, dave fleming, tim kawakami, and a freshly cooked plate of garlic fries to arizona for justin upton
I support this proposal, but can we get Stephen Drew too?
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I believe Seiler rated Fleming A+-level broadcasting prospect...
60s across the board, so we better get Drew & The Thing in that deal, mon frere.
by sanfranfreakshow on Jul 30, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
If we are doing announcer trades
I will give up Fleming and FP and Radnich to the Marlins for one of their announcers and Hanley Ramirez…fair right.
And I don’t think we could include Radnich in a deal. That’s like trying to include Zito in the deal.
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
we could trade jon miller to texas for their 3 best prospects, though. i assume they will want some golden pipes to call their playoff games this year
For Jon...They would have give up one of the sluggers...
Want a starter…not prospects…
Jon is a hall of famer now!
No way
I think Kruk & Kuip are more valuable than Hanley, plus they hustle…gamers.
However, I would trade FP for a box of microphones.
Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand
by Giant Torture on Jul 30, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Doubtful...
But you’ve got to start high to avoid having to send money along in the deal. Yes throw in Radnich and Michael Urban if you think you can get away with it.
Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand
by Giant Torture on Jul 30, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
obligatory
However, I would trade FP for a box of microphones.
Adopted Son:Matt Downs MLB , Now with More STATZ goodness !Matt Downs Fangraphs The Juan Uribe of 2011 !
Thanks
Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand
by Giant Torture on Jul 30, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
But
He was a major leaguer! For the Giants! He played professional baseball! Clearly you didn’t know that, otherwise you wouldn’t be willing to trade such a valuable guy (with MAJOR LEAGUE EXPERIENCE!) for almost nothing. Did I mention he played in the majors?
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to do that (TM)
Whoa. We get a daily thread?
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Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2010 11:53 AM PDT reply actions
We do deserve a daily thread, or as Mel Gibson put it, “…because I DESERVE IT”.
Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand
by Giant Torture on Jul 30, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Subject Line
/Blow Me! because I DESERVE IT
also, “You’re a pain in my ass, and I wish you would stop being that.”
That guy is Tom Cruise crazy at this point, probably crazier.
Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand
by Giant Torture on Jul 30, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Give us this day our daily thread
And forgive us our wild trade speculating
As we forgive those who don’t agree with us
Lead us not into gritty veterans
And deliver us from rent-a-players…
by Merope on Jul 30, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Amen
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
let it ring from the mountain tops!
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
Please Baseball gods...stop this at all costs!
Is SF in on any bats other than Dunn at this point?
2:46
Jason A. Churchill — MLB Draft Blog/Rumor Central: I think they’d make the deal for Jose Guillen right now if KC was being reasonable. Sabean isn’t about to give up something of value for Guillen and take on all the remaining salary.
Oddly, I think Guillen is a good fit for SF offensively. He’s not a good fielder, however, which for me would be a deal-breaker.
Afraid to look away from the corner…
Somebody get Susan on the line....
Susan, you must stop this trade from happening. Don’t let Sabes do it.
Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand
by Giant Torture on Jul 30, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
To the Suse-cave!
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
It's Friday and I'm outta here
Can someone do me a favor and post this in the Series Preview when it comes up:
Fuck the Dodgers
Thanks
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
…and Res said it with authority.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
a young brother on the street is a minority, a gang, or with whoever i’m steppin, the mother fuckin weapon is kep in a stash box for the so called law, wishin res was a brother that they never saw. Or summat, its only been 20 years.
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
I AM PAT BURRELLZ'Z DADDY! (wait, that doesn't sound right)
by bigboneded on Jul 30, 2010 12:51 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
It's Friday I'm in love
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
boooooo
The Dodgers are talking to the Cubs about a multiplayer deal that would include Lilly and a position player, tweets Dylan Hernandez of the L.A. Times.
The rumor mill say that the minor league team down south is
interested in Theirot and Lilly…don’t know what they have to offer though
That's awesome
Lilly isn’t that good, plus the Giants lack left-handed bats, so left handed pitchers for the Dodgers is a good thing.
Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand
by Giant Torture on Jul 30, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Whatever. I’m not worried about the Dodgers right now, so anything they can do to tank their system I’ll take.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed. They’re bums. They’re 3.5 back from us, 7 back from the Padres, and the Rockies are better than them anyways.
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, good luck with that, Theo
AmalieBenjamin
#RedSox will not activate Lowell today, according to a team source. Team would like to deal him.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 30, 2010 12:19 PM PDT reply actions
So, nothing has changed in like 2 years.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 30, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
the Rangers are on a mission to trade for a whole new roster.
they just traded for Christian Guzman from the Nats for prospect(s)
by 49erEmpire on Jul 30, 2010 12:21 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
it’s called “rest” for the playoffs~
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Kinsler is on the DL?! Maybe I shouldn’t be starting him in fantasy this week….
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Do we know the prospects yet? I’m set to do a story for my Cal League notebooks on Texas trading a bunch of their minor league arms and how that impacts the Bakersfield club. Don’t steal my story idea or I’ll knife you.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 30, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL DODGERS
Ely for Lilly
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
Bryce Harper keeps hinting on his facebook that he's returning back to college
Bryce Harper Probably going back to CSN to try to win a National Championship!!!
To which Manny Machado replied that he’ll join him there and it sounded like he was actually serious.
Bryce Harper Wish I was playing USA more than anything!!! Summer has been crazy, and thinking about returning to CSN for another year!!! Very possible!
it means that they have to pay him more.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
It means Boras is telling him to say those things.
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like leverage to me
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 30, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Bryce Harper, hilarious dude. I think he’s just posturing. Honestly, no way I’d skip out on the bonus he’s going to get. He’s set for life, unless he’s dumb and blows all his money. Of course, he might do that, but he’ll probably reach the majors soon anyway.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus, wouldn’t he be going back to JC anyways? JC….sweeeeeet.
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Jon Morosi (?) tweeted that the Padres are talking to the Pirates about acquiring Maholm. (I saw it because it was retweeted by MLBTR.)
Buser Posey: He knows the rules!
I #1: want him, #2: don't want the Pads to get him.
I even mentioned him in my earlier comment I commented earlier. Dammit. I am so on edge right now, I just keep waiting for something to happen and I know it’ll be fantastic/meh/devastating. “We get Scott/Ohman.” or “Giants land Dunn for prospects.” or “Braun to SF for Bumgarner,Posey, and Belt.” I feel like Tweak. I’m having anxiety attacks. I’m about to asplode.
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
I AM PAT BURRELLZ'Z DADDY! (wait, that doesn't sound right)
by bigboneded on Jul 30, 2010 12:59 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
that dude is so rough on the giants – maholom that is
Proud new co-dad of Travis Ishikawa. And ishikaBOOM Goes the Dynamite.
by Andy from DC on Jul 30, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
WTF
3:59: The Pirates are “close” to trading Maholm, according to Jim Bowden of Sirius XM Radio (on Twitter). However, Tom Krasovic of AOL FanHouse hears that the Padres are not discussing a deal for Maholm (Twitter link). Meanwhile, ESPN.com’s Buster Olney hears that the Padres are making progress on a Maholm deal (Twitter link).
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Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2010 1:03 PM PDT reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did Mike Lowell’s three home run game in AAA gain any attention from other teams besides Texas who we have been hearing about for months now? Does the little value he has supply the sox with the middle relief help they need?
3:55
Jason A. Churchill — MLB Draft Blog/Rumor Central: Yes… There was a Giants scout there to see that who thought Lowell looked pretty healthy.
WTF The guy is basically on crutches.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
“basically” being the operative word.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Why.................
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Down goes Strasburg
White Sox pitching coach Don Cooper, speaking to MLB Network Radio on Sirius XM on Thursday, voiced a concern that some pitching gurus previously noted about Strasburg’s manner of throwing a baseball. As he loads the baseball, his elbows raise higher than his shoulders — forming what pitching coaches call an inverted W — and the back of his shoulders pinch toward one another in the “scap loading” portion of the delivery. Such a delivery, some pitching coaches believe, puts him at greater risk of shoulder fatigue.
Cooper called it “an upside-down arm action.” One major league pitching coach years ago told me about the exact same concern about Mark Prior — before Prior broke down.
“He does something with his arm action that is difficult, in my mind, to pitch a lot of innings on,” Cooper said about Strasburg.
/plays flashback music
Tom House films pitchers at 1,000 frames a second, then downloads into his computer. That way, he can slow down a pitcher’s motion and find exactly where any non-productive movements might be. Of 600 pitchers in House’s computer, he said, Prior has the best mechanics after Ryan, Clemens, Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling.
His mental makeup, nutritional balance, everything else? Off the charts.
But how reliable is House? Is he a pitching guru or a wacko? “Both,” said one of his ex-players, who asked not to be identified.
House was OK with that description. And he believes Prior will be his final validation.
“He has all the pieces,” House said. “Nolan Ryan (who worked with House) had some of the pieces. Other guys have had some. Mark is the first to have them all. Objectively, he’s a can’t-miss.”
They could be Giants...but not really.
Tom House – juicer before it was the cool thing to do!
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Shoulder
That’s quite a list. Also. Shoulder.
Shoulder.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 30, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed, PLUS I heard one mechanics “expert” say he got rid of the “inverted W”, anyways!
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
"Inverted W"
Why can’t they just call it “M”?
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
Anthony Reyes. He’s kinda the poster child for the inverted W.
They could be Giants...but not really.
He was supposed to be the next great Cardinals pitcher
he had one good year then he sucked and got traded for nothing to the Indians.
In 2005 he was rated as a better prospect than Waino [wuz robbed]
Wait a minute…Reyes and Prior both went to USC…OMG trade Kevin Couture now!
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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I can fly!
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
D:
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 30, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
omg hay
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 30, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
More like
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RIP Zack Wheeler
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 30, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
/trades him for Dunn
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
I wouldn't go quite that far
But many people don’t realize that a number of factors likely go into breaking a pitcher down.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I almost care.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting note about Don Cooper
If I were the Nationals, I would be concerned (though, really, there’s not much they can do; a delivery can be tweaked, but not the basic way the body moves to throw a baseball). Why? Because nobody in major league baseball knows more about pitching durability than Cooper. The White Sox coach may not get the publicity of the Cardinals’ Dave Duncan and has no Cy Young Award winners to brag about, but he’s the best in the business at keeping his guys healthy and pitching deep into games.
Take a look at this list: it’s the number of 200-inning seasons by pitchers for each club since 2003, Cooper’s first full season with the White Sox.
1. Chicago White Sox, 21
2. Chicago Cubs, 14
3. Boston Red Sox, 13
4. Arizona Diamondbacks, 12
St. Louis Cardinals, 12
New York Yankees, 12
Los Angeles Angels, 12
Minnesota Twins, 12
That is impressive. The White Sox are 50 percent better than the second-best team in baseball when it comes to durable pitchers.
doesn’t Zack Wheeler have similar arm action?
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 30, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
One major league pitching coach years ago told me about the exact same concern about Mark Prior — before Prior broke down.
I love how people re-write history in regards to Prior.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 30, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Padres are really close to getting Malholm apparently.
He has a 3.10 career ERA against the Giants.
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"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2010 1:18 PM PDT reply actions
I hate facing Cy Maholm
They are trading for him just to fuck us down the stretch….
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Jul 30, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike Lowell
There was a Giants scout on hand to see Mike Lowell hit 3 dingerz in his last rehab start, scout said he thought he looked healthy. Giants may make a run at him.
Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand
But everyone who can pitch is not in AAA, so that can’t mean anything!
I ain't havin' it
by NuschlerFace on Jul 30, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Also
John Bowker can hit dingerz in AAA.
Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand
by Giant Torture on Jul 30, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
You're right
Lacks grizzle
Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand
by Giant Torture on Jul 30, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve always liked Lowell. I know he’s broken and all, but if he can be durable for the rest of the year and is cheap enough, I think he could really have some use on this team.
I can kind of see that
If they can get him for next to nothing, he could provide more upside than Rohlinger. Plus, if Pablo gets any worse and Lowell gets hot he could have a Will Clark with St. Louis type run in him.
Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand
by Giant Torture on Jul 30, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
The scout said he looked healthy after seeing him hit 3 HR"s?! No way!
In all seriousness though, I think scouting’s biggest downfall is probably trying to keep the results and the process seperate in evaluating a guy.
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
MIKE LOL
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Which of you asked this:
[Comment From Staticrap ]
I dont see why the giants wont offer jonathan sanchez in a package to get a bat like prince fielder,there pitching is deep enough to still be a very good pitching team
Just come out and we won’t hurt you much
For all intensive purposes
Your spell check isn’t turned on.
Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand
by Giant Torture on Jul 30, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw that...
And thought….douche.
Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand
by Giant Torture on Jul 30, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
The pinstripe Puma
The Yankees are on the verge of acquiring Lance Berkman, according to Joel Sherman of the New York Post (on Twitter). ESPN.com’s Buster Olney hears that the Steinbrenners have given pre-approval for the Yankees to take on a major salary such as Berkman’s (Twitter link).
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
It does make a lot of sense for an AL team to go all season using the DH primarily to rest regulars, but then picking up a DH at the deadline for the rest of the season, especially a team like the Yankees….
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
It does. That and fuck the Yankees.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
My guess at what the Astros get back:
A fast guy
A left-handed starting pitcher
A mid-20s reliever
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 30, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Daniel Brewer, Jeremy Bleich, Josh Schmidt.
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 30, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
FEAR THE TREE
Bleich that is
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Fear the tree my ass. He’s going to suck like Garko and Hammonds.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 30, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Sprow_ESPN: Dave Kull notes: Yanks with Berkman have four 20-35 HR switch-hitters. Swisher, Tex, Posada and now Elvis. Uh, matchups?
Hegemonic bastards.
by sanfranfreakshow on Jul 30, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
ha, we already have Bautista!!
idiots….
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Giants trade for their own player
And DFA Bautista to make roster space.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 30, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey you kids! Come back here!
I know it’s non sequitur. I just wanted to add my favorite sitcom/cartoon phrase.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
Baron’s back—and made me laugh as well.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
and made me reply flail!
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
my finest work
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 30, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Twitter says
The Astros just traded Berkman for a pile of magic beans.
WE’VE GOT MAGIC BEANS, DAMNIT
Mark DeRosa is playing exactly the same amount of professional baseball as his adopted father, these days.
I’M WARNING YOU KNBR…..ONE MORE TRADE A STARTING PITCHER FOR DUNN… JUST ONE MORE TIME… YOU ARE OUTTA HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lincecum, Sandoval, Belt, and Wheeler for Zimmerman, Strasburg, and Dunn
by kingofthacove on Jul 30, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm actually pondering that
I ain't havin' it
by NuschlerFace on Jul 30, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Couple of weeks ago, I’d have made that trade in an instant. But Strasburg is a lot less valuable than he was then.
I think I’d do that.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Angry Rizzo is angry-from Olney's twitter
4 minutes ago via web .Heard this: The Nationals are frustrated in their attempts to get equal value for Adam Dunn, and conversely, rival teams are (more)#trades
saying that the asking price for Dunn is enormous. This is why the Yankees turned away from the Dunn talks and snagged (more)#trades
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They can go Howie themselves
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 30, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
They can post pictures of themselves on a blog?
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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What's funny about this post is...the term "equal value" is market-dependent
Washington Nationals are like a homeseller who is frustrated that no one wants to buy its house for the price they paid…
It’s not fair!
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 30, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly
Earth to the Nationals: He’s a rental.
OH MAN ROFL
The Nationals told teams that Edwin Jackson was key to obtaining Adam Dunn from them, according to ESPN.com’s Buster Olney. Many teams tried to obtain Jackson, the White Sox got him and now the Nationals say they aren’t so sure they want the righty. Obviously, teams are frustrated with the Nationals (all Twitter links).
Kenny Williams got pwned
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DONT TEASE ME BRO
Jon Heyman SI_JonHeyman
jose bautista is believed to be player #giants want. burress or adrianza could go in trade.
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I’d do either one of those in a second…Burriss in a half second.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2010 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
one of those trades
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2010 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like Jon Heyman picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.
by FireBrianSabean on Jul 30, 2010 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Bautista was about the last guy on my list of wants.
But if the price is a guy who probably wont ever be more than a back up MI, I’d do it in a second.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Jul 30, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Update: Giants talking to "another team" about BIG trade
I don’t know. I think I believe this one.
by FireBrianSabean on Jul 30, 2010 6:51 PM PDT reply actions
If it involves Burriss or Adrianza, GO RIGHT AHEAD.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 30, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Tradesterbation
Hanley for Pablo, Wheeler and Neal.
Would you do it?
What if they wanted Pablo, Wheeler and Belt?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Probably
It would decimate the farm system and I’d feel bad about giving up on Pablo, but it’s still worth it for 4+ years of the best shortstop in the game.
by RoyaleWithCheese on Jul 31, 2010 3:24 AM PDT up reply actions
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