Droppin Like Flies
by Andy Warpath on Jul 29, 2010 8:49 PM PDT
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PrintAnd I couldn't be happier. Anyone as pumped as I am that David DeJesus, Ryan Braun, Miguel Tejada, Scott Podsednik, Jorge Cantu, Prince Fielder, Jhonny Peralta, Jayson Werth, and Corey Hart are all off the market? I feel like I am Chuck Norris having dodged all of these bullets...that and I have another fist underneath my beard.
This post is a prayer that we keep "missing out" on all of these epic "upgrades."
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Derek Lee does sound pretty good right now, though
And Posey is having amother great game.
by JohnnyDangerously on Jul 29, 2010 9:02 PM PDT reply actions
He has a NTC, he’s said that he won’t accept any trade, and he’s already vetoed one to the Angels.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Not so cut-and-dry
He only turned down the Angels, and said he liked the Chicago area for his family, but he didn’t specifically say that he would reject any trade. A couple analysts opined that he didn’t want to go to the Angels because he didn’t believe that they were really in the playoff chase.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Keith Law said he heard there was some sort of family issue. Not sure if he has inside info or not, but it’s possible…
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I chose Adam LaRoche before scrolling down and seeing Guillen on the list.
What I’m saying is, that list has too much fail to select just one answer
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
so you don’t want the Giants to upgrade their lineup?
by 49erEmpire on Jul 29, 2010 9:23 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I’d love for them to upgrade their lineup. But I would like an actual upgrade, not Garko
by Andy Warpath on Jul 29, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Dan Uggla is equitable to Garko.
Don’t forget, “his name is DAN UGGLA!” when he hits another home run off the Giants.
Uggla is, defense considered, probably a tiny bit (like five runs over a full season) better than Sanchez. He doesn’t upgrade the team enough that it’s likely to matter.
You could pretty much say the same about any of the guys listed in the poll. Some of them are small upgrades (Uggla, Dunn) likely to come at a high price, and some (Guillen, Crisp) just don’t make the team better at all.
In terms of position players, I think the chances of improving the team at the deadline are minimal.
Uggla is equitable to Dunn, IMO. Assuming he’d play 1B for us, I think it’s fair to call him about a +20 hitter and Dunn about a +30 hitter, but he’s a better fit for our park and probably makes up close to all of that difference on defense.
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Defective poll.
It omits “All of the above.”
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
by owlcroft on Jul 29, 2010 9:39 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I was going to say Podsednik
So Hooray!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
For the right price . . .
Why you want to miss out on Willingham, Upton, or Uggla?
Daniel Turpen is a Giant Beaver
Thats the problem, have any of those 3 names been linked with “the right price” All 3 GMs have been askin for the moon for those 3.
by Andy Warpath on Jul 29, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I would give them warren moon for Upton.
B. Molina grounded into double play second to first, B. Posey out at second.....Ron Wotus stabs Bengie with a broken bat as he returns to the dugout.
So the point of this post is that you don’t think the Giants need to trade at all this season?
Daniel Turpen is a Giant Beaver
First and foremost, they need to not make a bad trade.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Jul 29, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed, absolutely. My opinion is I’d love a left handed bullpen arm or somebody like Willingham if you can do it for minor leaguers (preferably not Belt).
Daniel Turpen is a Giant Beaver
They do. But they also need to stop running Schierholtz and Rowand out there and pretending those guys are legitimate major league starters on a contending team.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Schierholtz could very well be a legitimate starter on a major league team, especially considering his defense and right-center at ATT.
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to do that (TM)
I’m still curious whether he could be a viable CF’er….
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Schierholtz is a terrible major league hitter.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Sadly, I’ve come to the same conclusion. Why couldn’t they have included Nate to PITT instead of John?
"Row(and) will come out of this. You stay with your guys and he is one of our guys." - Bruce Bochy 05-31-10
"...and with Titanic's transverse bulkheads and watertight doors, it renders this vessel practically unsinkable." - "Shipbuilder" magazine, 1912
+1
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
Yah. He just went through the list of everyone who has been named available for a trade. He could just have had a post about why he doesn’t think the Giants should make a trade for a bat this season.
by fabiani1233 on Jul 29, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
you don’t think the Giants need to trade at all this season?
Yes! Someone finally gets it!
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m not happy at all that DeJesus is off the market.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Wait, that poll question tricked me.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2010 1:10 AM PDT reply actions
Ryan Braun
Is not at all a bad option. If the Giants could get Braun for a reasonable price they should jump all over that deal.
If you look up douche-bag in the dictionary, I’m pretty sure Guillen’s picture is right underneath it.
Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand
I love that the nine games out Brewers with a horrible pitching staff, took their players off of the market because they still think they’re in the race, They should immediately fire their GM. Trading a vet hitter or two for young pitching is absolutely what they should be doing.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Jul 30, 2010 5:44 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
No kidding. What’s up with that?
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
The prices aren't low...
The Brewers are asking a lot for Fielder and Hart, but part of that is because prospects are so over-valued this year due to the flood of top-tier prospects called up this year, not to mention that this year’s draft is deep so free agents who will garner type-A or type-B status carry a little extra value too. All said I don’t think Melvin’s done a terrible job given the payroll he has to work with. GM’s are going to make mistakes, but small-market teams have a much lower margin of error. I think given the Giants’ payroll Melvin would do a better job than Sabean has.
Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand
by Giant Torture on Jul 30, 2010 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions
prospects are so over-valued this year due to the flood of top-tier prospects called up this year
I’m not following, can you clarify?
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
There has been a large number of top tier prospects called up this year from Jason Heyward and Stephen Strasburg to Domonic Brown and Buster Posey. If you look at the top 20 prospects from last year most of them are in the big league’s and a lot of teams find them in a similar situation as the Giants who had Posey and Bumgardner as their top prospects a year ago, but now find themselves without top prospects that are close. At least that’s one theory why prospects are being over-valued in trade negotiations according to a number of people around the game.
Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand
by Giant Torture on Jul 30, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Why does that lead to prospects being overvalued? It sounds to me like what you’re basically saying is that the Top X prospect list has lost a lot of members and gone down in quality on the whole because of that. So if you only use a prospects ranking on the list to value them, I see what you’re saying, but I would hope teams use a process better than that….?
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it’s actually that so much high level talent has come out of the minors the last couple of seasons, that management around the league (baseball management being just as reactive and imitative in baseball as in any other business endeavor) has begun to value ALL minor league talent on that very high end bar. So they say, hey if I trade my best prospects I’ll be giving away the next Strasburg/Heyward/Posey, whether or not their best prospects are, in fact, anywhere near being the next Strasburg/Heyward/Posey (NOT).
In a couple years as teams get underwhelmed with the abilities of the next wave of prospects (which at the moment doesn’t look to be very deep or very impactful), they’ll probably swerve back to undervalueing their prospects and proceed to start trading away the next Strasburg/Heyward/Poseys in their system.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
by Roger on Jul 30, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So you think it’s mostly stock market mentality kinda thing. Ok…
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
Much better explanation than I gave.
Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand
by Giant Torture on Jul 30, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
They realy do need to do some old fashion swapping of players futures with the Jays. That team needs to controlible postion players and Brew Crew needs a few team controlled decent arms. That kind of a trade can be done this off season though. Right now I feel that the Brewers and tha Nat’s are hopeing to land a idiot GM trade with their older players. Susan please keep Saben locked up this week end.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
If you look up douche-bag in the dictionary, I’m pretty sure Guillen’s picture is right underneath it.
Well, yea, but in all honesty its probably right next to Brian Wilson’s picture.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
oh yea, he’s a much more likable douchebag than Guillen, I just have a hard time using douchebag as an insult for other players now while I’m also cheering on Wilson.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
He’s likable only because he’s a Giant. Imagine Wilson wearing complete blue shoes doing the same shit for the Dodgers.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
It’s true, I’d probably hate him.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 2, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I totally disagree with this fan post by the way. This team should absolutely be looking to upgrade at the deadline. You would rather see Nate or Rowand in the lineup rather than Josh Willingham? You think we dodged a bullet by not getting Prince Fielder?
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Jul 30, 2010 5:47 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Agreed.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
You would rather see Nate or Rowand in the lineup rather than Josh Willingham?
I don’t think that’s really the question, though. The question is “is Josh Willingham that much better that in 1/3 of the season he can make a substantial difference, one that’s worth paying the price the other team is asking for”…..
I would answer YOUR question with: “I’d rather see Josh Willingham.” I’d answer MY question with “I’d rather see Nate/Rowand” (depending on the price, of course, I think it would be too high).
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Man, I can’t think of a question that would lead me to answer “I’d rather see Nate/Rowand.” “I’d rather see Bowker” quite probably. “I’d rather pluck mine own eyes out” possibly. but “I’d rather see nate/rowand” definitely not.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Ha, true, I always strike the Bowker option out of my mind because I know they have no intention of ever giving him a shot. I would be open to a Nate/Burrell platoon instead of Rowand.
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
The rosters expand 9/1 and you know Bowker will be here at that time. Assuming someone isn’t brought in here before the deadline, you would have to think that the best thing for Bowker’s career would be for Bochy and Sabean to watch Rowand and Nate flounder around for another month.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Jul 30, 2010 10:56 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
P/C = 3/18
God, they come out of the woodwork at the dealine
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Boy, choosing between Dunn and Guillen was tough. But it’s hard to imagine that acquiring Guillen for anything other than Rowand or Zito is going to help the team in any way.
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to do that (TM)
Yeah, the thing with Dunn is he will help, I just don’t think he’ll help enough (and he’d help an AL team more) and it will cost too much…
by Missing Barry on Jul 30, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
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