Thursday 7/29 Trade Rumors, Thoughts & Opinions - Share Them Here
by Goofus on Jul 29, 2010 10:40 AM PDT
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Let's see if this works:
Rather than a new Fanpost every time someone hears/reads a rumor, has an idea or opinion, let's post them on this one thread. If there's a report of the Ginats actually doing something, that's worthy of a new Fanpost, but it's getting a little out of control when multiple people are joining the site just to make a Fanpost of stuff that's already been shared or discussed.
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I'll start
In regards to trading for a bat, I’m still in the “stand pat” line unless a deal comes along that so good you’d wouldn’t have imagined it was possible.
I could go along with a trade for a LH reliever if that’s what the team think they need to stay competitive.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
by Goofus on Jul 29, 2010 10:41 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm in this line too
I don’t think the Giants can really afford to trade much away for a marquee hitter.
It’s like going into a Gucci store with about $75 in your pocket. You might be able to find something you can afford, if you’re really lucky, but do you really want it just because it’s in your price range?
I would like to see the bullpen shored up a bit, but again, not at any kind of steep cost.
Overall, I think the team is fine, and if they want to swap out a minor part or 2, OK, but it shouldn’t be deemed crucial.
I came, I saw, I told bad jokes and left.
by IanRogue on Jul 29, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes.
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by satyricrash on Jul 29, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Bingo.
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I disagree. I want us to make a huge move that makes me excited to turn on the game this weekend. Why is it always other teams fans who are all excited, and I get a Ryan Garko? Do something big, crappy unimaginative GM of mine.
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by rxmeister on Jul 29, 2010 5:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I’d rather they not makes trades based on their entertainment value.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Dodgers are in town, the Giants have been the best team in baseball the last 3+ weeks… you’re not already excited to turn on the game this weekend?
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on Jul 29, 2010 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Chasm?
Proud parent of Bengie Molina: Buster who?
by The Enchanter on Jul 29, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
So does "Standing Pat" mean you are an upstanding athletic Burrell Supporter?
I belong in this line, dick jokes aside, if this team is giving up much of anything for a hitter not under 28-29 It would be a mistake. Or that hitter would have to be player that would very surprised to hear was on the market in the first place.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
Is this a Mod approved OMGTRADEDEADLINE post ?
JK…I with you in the stand pat line, unless an unbelievable deal comes along. At the risk of enraging GiantPain, I am frightened by the thought of Adam Dunn, even with .a 915 OPS. Jose Bautista is slightly less scary as long as the price is right, and Sabean doesn’t sign him to a 5/60 deal next year. Cantu would just be stupid.
A LH reliever would fit in nicely, and provide a little extra security in the Pen.
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I'm trying to avoid was multiple repetitive new Fanposts
I’ve deleted three in the last 12 hours and have no idea how many the other mods have deleted.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
That’s the joke ? Looks around for Howie
Adopted Son:Matt Downs MLB , Now with More STATZ goodness !Matt Downs Fangraphs The Juan Uribe of 2011 !
Jose Bautista, I don’t think there is any way he’ll keep up his production. He’s have a flukey good year but I don’t see him being that consistently good.
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t's Posey time!!
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OMG SABEZZ YOU IDJIIOT POOP
I donno. My Yahoo Gamecast glitched last night and accidentally attributed one of Huff’s singles to Cantu and when I came to I was locked in a motel bathroom in New Paltz with a shotgun, a fifth of Jack, and my underwear on my head.
Good win, though!
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You too, huh?
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by Giantsfan4life on Jul 29, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
TELL ME MOAR ABOUT JORGE CANNOT
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 29, 2010 11:50 AM PDT reply actions
latest: Cantu out, Dunn in
At least Dunn can hit, unlike Cantu. I would not like seeing his clankmitt, even at first. If the Nats are asking for half the farm system and Bumgarner, I would pass.
Another precinct reports in.
As to general principles, that "’stand pat’ . . . unless a deal comes along that so good you’d wouldn’t have imagined it was possible" sounds like excellent advice. Most of the pieces needed for success are already in place (though not being used optimally), and adding just to add is worse than useless.
If something is wanted in the way of a bat, it would be a right (or center) fielder who is relatively young and fleet of foot. And, obviously, a bullpen arm of the sinister persuasion wouldn’t come amiss. That’s about it.
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(Can’t link from my primitive Dare) Cantu to Rangers is confirmed. Yankees out on Dunn, Giants working hard to get him. I like Sean Marshall more and more. Good numbers against lefties, attainable, and team control through 2012.
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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by bigboneded on Jul 29, 2010 2:22 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
GOT IT DUNN!!!
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GIANTS UNDUNN!
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GIANTS NOT DUNN YET!
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Padres acquire Miguel Tejada
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
You mean Jose Guillen and his Ribeyes.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
What's up?
I’m a little surprised the Giants weren’t involved when Lance Berkman and Austin Kearns were had for about nothing.
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The red-hot offense gets
totally shut down by a good young pitcher today, so we should all be scared now about Sabean being left alone by a phone over the next 12 hours.
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Blue Jays trade Brett Wallace for Anthony Gose
I’m not sure why the Jays would do that
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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not shopped
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Win for Ed Wade?
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Jul 29, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Despite his best efforts, yes
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Wow
Brett Wallace winds up in Houston? So has he hit all the US mainland time zones in the last 12 months?
"Row(and) will come out of this. You stay with your guys and he is one of our guys." - Bruce Bochy 05-31-10
"...and with Titanic's transverse bulkheads and watertight doors, it renders this vessel practically unsinkable." - "Shipbuilder" magazine, 1912
Has he hit mountain time?
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
that’s not a real time zone
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Does a Moderator delete fan posts??
The reason I ask is I posted one about how I hate the trade deadline and it has disappered.
I have no problem if that is indeed what happened. I’m just curious as to if that occurs.
They can and they do.
Still in despair.
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by Zetsuboushita on Jul 29, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
At this point my main concern
is that the Pads and/or Dodgers don’t improve themselves. Tejeda may help the Pads a bit. If he finds some of his old stroke he will help them a lot. I find that unlikely, however.
Pods helps the Dodgers a little – but to me it signals that they believe Manny won’t play that much more. Otherwise, why give up anything for a 4th OF.
Dodgers are talking Lilly. He could help a rotation that is seriously hurting on the back end. I hope that doesn’t happen.
re: the Bums. The more they “improve” now the worse they will be down the road. Not all the young help they have in MLB will stay healthy. Not all the young help will it all pan out they way they hope. With their current ownership structure this will need to run a lot more like the 90’s -’00 Twins that what they have been doing under Colletti. If the Giants lay the hurt on them this week end it would go a long way to making this season very tough for the Bums as well.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
I want Bautista for Burriss, damnit!
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Jul 29, 2010 5:12 PM PDT reply actions
Andrew Baggarly extrabaggs
My colleague Mark Purdy suggests the Giants trade for Angels LHP Brian Fuentes. If Angels are truly selling, it’s an idea with merit
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 29, 2010 6:03 PM PDT reply actions
Hehe. Purdy.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Move the A’s to San Jose
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Don't forget the use of the "Los Tiburones" in every Sharks article...
a nickname that Shark fans have come to love and embrace.
Bautista + Downs from the Blue Jays. Give them whatever they want as long as it’s not M. Bum.
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Or Belt, or Neal.
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on Jul 29, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Goofy idea
I threw this out somewhere else, but this seems like the appropriate forum. How about the Giants trade Rowand to the Cubs for Zambrano and then trade Sanchez for Fielder?
(This will obviously never happen.)
Fielder & Hart
Are apparently off the market now. But I wouldn’t mind a Zambrano/Scott deal as long as the Cubs pay for the difference in contracts, it gives us the freedom to trade a pitcher but I don’t see Sabes pulling the trigger.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Tim Flannery: Make better decisions dammit.
Nationals trade Capps to the Twins for Wilson Ramos
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Wow
I had no idea Capps was only 26
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Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2010 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Anyone notice that Brandon Belt played left field tonight in Double-A? I’m not sure whether it’d be a showcase for a trade or a chance to see if he can handle that position in the majors soon or what, but it seems interesting. Or maybe it doesn’t mean anything at all.
OK, carry on.
I’d say it probably doesn’t mean anything, but considering Belt has stolen 19 bases this year it seems likely that he’s athletic enough to handle corner outfield. I’d say it’s a good move, considering how the organization seems to be putting a (rather bizarre) premium on “versatility.”
perhaps its for this reason
Pablo continues to slump. (.270 SLG PCT last 65 games!) Belt in LF, Huff RF, Ishi IB and Uribe 3b.
Not very damn likely but who knows.
perhaps its for this reason
Pablo continues to slump. (.270 SLG PCT last 65 games!) Belt in LF, Huff RF, Ishi IB and Uribe 3b.
Not very damn likely but who knows.
Thanks for making this catchall..
cuz wow there really are too many trade related fanshots! Whatever happened to the time honored McCoven tradition of hijacking all the redundant, stupid, boring fanposts? If it isn’t suddenly forboden I say it’s time to revive the tradition.
I mean seriously… does everybody’s wild trade deadline rantings need their own separate fanpost?
Already discussed?
From SFgiants.com:
As Saturday’s 1 p.m. PT non-waiver Trade Deadline crept closer, indications grew that the Giants were almost exclusively concentrating on acquiring bullpen help and had abandoned their pursuit of a hitter.
why don’t you want Dunn?
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jul 29, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t want his defense, I don’t want a rent a player, I’m tired of the FO acquiring fading vets instead of giving younger guys a shot, I don’t trust the front office to evaluate talent, nor do I trust botchy to correctly use the talent, I’m not confident his numbers will carry over to the Phone Booth, I wonder why his walks rate is down [less IBB?] and his strikeout numbers are up, I wonder how much of that 12mill the Giants will have to pay…
Now if they want to trade Rownads for Dunn straight up…okay. Otherwise -pass
Good news
The Twins, Phillies and Giants are losing interest in Ty Wigginton, according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports
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Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2010 1:05 AM PDT reply actions
No news is good news?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2010 1:42 AM PDT reply actions
WAIT A MINUTE
The Dodgers DFA’d Tachsner!
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Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2010 1:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Taschner?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 30, 2010 1:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Nah
It’s just Graham talking to himself. I think he’s a lonely boy.
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